The Greater Fool - News Room Season 1 - MAGA what it really means
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- Clips from News Room Season 1 episode 1 and 10
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MAGA - Make America Great Again. Though you have to question what 'the greatest country in the world' actually means.
Media's role in all of it.
The fact this was the pilot and cold open for the show is still mind blowing. Such a fantastic scene.
gotta grab and hold the audience's attention within a couple minutes without cheap tricks like flashing tits and ass. sorkin's screenwriting will likely do that.
Shame.
if you are dumb as fuck, yeah i guess. congrats on having the political fortitude of an edgey 5th grader you fucking moron. dont breed.
This was the opening scene?!? Wow. The only opening scene I would put above this is Breaking Bad with Walt in his underwear, with a mask on, driving a Winnebago with a bunch of bodies in it.
This was the cold open? Geez wish I'd watched.
"We aspired to intelligence; we didn't belittle it." Without question my favorite part of his answer.
Mine as well and "we didn't identify ourselves by who voted for in the last election and we didn't scare so easily".
A few years ago, I saw Jeff Daniels in concert with his family. He told a lot of stories between songs, some funny, some more serious. He said that this bit of dialogue was very important to him, that it felt decades in the making.
Robert Lewandowski's sister?
because jeff daniels is as stupid as an edgey 5th grader. this is baby's first political analysis and the fact that dumb fucks like you eat it up just goes to show how fucking retarded americans are. eat shit and die faggot,
Thank you for putting both of these together. People never realize that the girl who asks question comes back and willingly submit to being a "fool" for the sake of the greatness of the U.S.
+Temiken No problem. I think the last part actually make the show 'whole.'
Women have been left at or close to poverty wage slave wages the most so hate politicians god devil rich people for doing that to your grandma mother aunt sister girlfriend sister daughter neice granddaughter etc
@@HeeJaeAnCovanee Should have put the end cap in on her as well for better context. S3, she end up more or less getting to the same point as Will.
Anyone who watched the series DOES know that
@@fezzik7619 I didn’t know it, and I watched the show. But, sometimes a person leaves the room for a few minutes and misses something.
Honestly the worst thing to ever happen to American news media was commercialism. Once upon a time, every media outlet was required by law to provide news as a public service. Then they started allowing commercialization and then the news turned into sensationalism and entertainment and catering to specific viewpoints to get advertising dollars. It is no longer just the information of what's happening.
I always thought that the worst thing to ever happen to Media was Operation mockingbird...
Well said.
Yea Regan really screwed us by repealing laws that allow it
haven't seen many people admitting it is both sides nice to see
...and Roger. That girl and Roger is what makes America the greatest country in the world.
The greatest speech about what America was about and still should be.
Indeed
So what period in history are you referring to? When lynching black people was legal? When segregation and slavery was promoted? When they developed the atomic bomb to wipe out millions of innocents and commit war crimes against civilians in response to a naval base being attacked? When they hired Nazi German scientists into the CIA to advance their own programmes and gave them immunity. When they walked into Vietnam to commit atrocities that would last decades? When they created a war against Iraq based on made up reasons having nothing to do with Bin Laden and demolished cities and killed over half a million people? Wake up. America was never star spangled awesome. It's riches were always on the backs of the poor and colonialism.
To late.
Facts.
I’m not even American but I “ felt “ this dialogue 👏
“And we didn’t scare so easy! We were able to be all these things and do all these things because we were informed”. Sad to look back at this clip with the current status of partisan media outlets.
One of my favorite shows. Badly needed now more than ever.
Yah, but when was the US public ever informed?
I love Jeff Daniels. In one film he’s barely holding on to a toilet seat and then he’s doing amazing scenes like these. He is certainly not typecast, and I love it.
The Newsroom is one of the best shows to ever be created!
Aaron Sorkin is considered by many to be the best writer of dialogue in film and television, by far. I think there may be a solid reason why. This example is just one of many that illustrates that reason.
you are too stupid to breath.
Take a look at Studio 60 on the Sunset strip. It's one of his less successful series, as it was cancelled before season 2 but if you look at the parallels between the characters and the way he structured it - even down to the hard hitting cold open in the pilot... You can tell that he had something he wanted to create and the Newsroom was his second stab at it.
@@Pibikhen yeah i have watched all his stuff even the American President lol.
@@davidmckesey7119 , then he reused the sets for The West Wing LOL
It's astonishing, because it's artificial as fuck. No one ever talks that way (I wish they did, but naw), yet it still feels awesome on screen.
still got goosebumps in both scenes... thats what america should be and could be....
But never will be. You must see quite clearly from the perspective of this viewpoint expressed in a series long dead how the country has continued to devolve, abominating itself, becoming a caricature of itself. Are you attuned to what’s currently hotly debated on the tables of ‘high’ political American thought?
@@Bootmahoy88 as i wrote could be... not should be or is... i am aware that the shit is already in full speed the hill downwards....
I love you, Jeff Daniels! You spoke up and you spoke well. Words that needed to be aid. Thank you!
He was great in Dumb and Dumber as well.
I've never seen the second part before. Very interesting, and surprising. Thanks.
It’s one of the last scenes of the season 1 finale.
I have watched this a 100 times! Goose bumps everytime!
Tears, too.
Me too and I'm a brit
You believe in AGW, too, yeah?
Best scene in tv history, this was a great show led by brilliant jeff daniels
Spot on!
Lol. I love with the idiots ID themselves
Completely agree with you!
All credit to Aaron Sorkin.
I still think the gabbi giffords episode was one of the best in tv where at the end bursting into the control room
Never even saw the second scene before today. Possibly greater than the first one, but of course needs the context. This is moving, even if you don't know the characters!
It’s the end of the season 1 finale. The episode is titled “The Greater Fool”
Being a bit older, and growing up with journalists, people who found a cause, a story, an issue, and ran it down. It didn't matter who was on the other end of it, politicians, companies, people in power, they felt that they were there for the people of the country, not the studio, not the government, or whoever lined their pockets, and seeing the extreme difference in news then versus "news" now, its heartbreaking. I've seen both of these clips dozens of times, and the first one always makes me sad, bringing to the fore front that our population is under and uninformed, or fed information by the highest paying person or group, and that no one is taken to task for what they are doing, and that never again will we have people like that. That people with money and power at every turn have twisted and perverted every outlet that the common person had to get news and information that was reliable and trustworthy, so they could make a profit, or gain power and control.
It used to be a local and working class profession. But with the start of journalism degree it became something that trustfund and privileged kid's dead. And they had different motivations.
You can thank the neolibralist for that they monopolisied the government into creating political news, meaning news networks that get funding, donations the charitable kind mostly from parties, or corporation in which may, or may not influence the news. Then hire and create the one of best political strategist in propoganda to create the southern strategy. Which is basically mind controlled the south into thinking civil rights= savages want you to pay more taxes. There is a heck of alot more, but as someone who has empathy for the 70000 confirmed innocent, thats call terrorists killed in the war of terror. It's more than deserved only america has the right to have baseless wars for freedom. Can I ask you something name any country you actually liberated.
One of the best speeches ever made simply by being true never stop believing that we can be and do better
So what period in history are you referring to? When lynching black people was legal? When segregation and slavery was promoted? When they developed the atomic bomb to wipe out millions of innocents and commit war crimes against civilians in response to a naval base being attacked? When they hired Nazi German scientists into the CIA to advance their own programmes and gave them immunity. When they walked into Vietnam to commit atrocities that would last decades? When they created a war against Iraq based on made up reasons having nothing to do with Bin Laden and demolished cities and killed over half a million people? Wake up. America was never star spangled awesome. It's riches were always on the backs of the poor and colonialism.
That is only possible if we make truth our guiding principle.
First time I have seen the second part! Thank you.
BECAUSE HER EYES ARE FINALLY OPEN TO THE REAL TRUTH. IF WE CAN ONLY CULTIVATE MORE GREATER FOOLS TO HELP ALL THE PEOPLE.
I think thats what Sorkin was pointing out. Americas greatest asset is the ideas and aspirations of the next generation. Adults love to blather on about social media and how its ruining civilization without realizing there is an entire generation who have grown up more connected to the rest of the world than any of us ever could have thought. My wife is a HS teacher, and just like when I was there you have the idiots, but Im telling you, these younger kids are more aware of global geopolitics than anyone currently in office. Iran is a perfect example, the recent US midterm is another. The younger generation has had enough, and they are becoming extremely vocal about it. The ubiquitous nature of cameras and the widespread adoption of high speed internet has made it very difficult for bad actors to hide in the shadows anymore.
This show is amazing and it ended too soon.
Sadly, Aaron Sorkin just doesn't have the attention span for a long term show. He only lasted through the first four seasons of West Wing. Tragically, Studio 60 was cancelled after just one. He's great at writing scripts for plays and movies, but not for weaving a long running story. But I don't mind because he's excellent at what he does do.
Imagine the material the show could use from current events
@@MrAlBester the show would’ve had a field day with trump.
@@None0fYourBusiness forget Trump the GOP as a whole and the Ultra right media
50 % of the US people do not want to watch seeing and hearing that the USA is not great, that it has great flaws..they just want their bread and games..the same like the roman empire, just before it fell.
Awesome job putting the best speech ever with the end result.
Perfect example of how to make a difference.
Ohh man, that was POWERFUL!!!
I was raised by a journalist who started out setting type by hand for a weekly paper in Arizona & eventually worked his way thru the newspaper world - back when newspapers counted for something, and by a teacher who taught in the same one-room school house her mother had taught in. They are both gone, just as their world - the world they built and defended thru two wars - is gone. As is the world I was raised in and served to defend is gone. This little clip says more about how the USA and the species is doomed than most folks will ever realize.
America is less than 5% of the worlds population. Part of the problem is that Americans have the arrogance to think they speak for the rest of us. My country is doing just fine and BTW I live in “the free world” so do me a favour and stop calling your president (whoever it is) the “leader of the free world”. They are not and never have been my effing leader.
F ,_ _ _ Jeff Daniels! He's probably on Maxine's client list.
Whirls are never gone. They just go on.
species was always doomed.
A famous Social Psychologist, Professor Solomon proving what you are saying: th-cam.com/video/xioCMK_YO90/w-d-xo.html
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It sure took Sorkin to sharp this piece of dialog but it took Daniels to say those lines with that freaking rythm
The greatest 5 minutes in all of television history.
Bravo!
I honestly don't know which scene I like more!
They bookend the show so perfectly.❤❤❤
I still get goosebumps and the hair on my arms stands up. This is a masterpiece.
If only this was real life. Every American ought to see this video. YOUR NOT THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!
His vision of what used to be is flawed. We were always messed up. We will always be messed up. We just need to keep getting better. Forever.
Of course it's flawed, he (and Sorkin) know it. But it's also mythic, in the best way, because it's a rallying cry for aspirants to the qualities he enumerates, while defying the forces of darkness that would perpetuate the failings.
I would say yes and no. He obviously skipped a few things that would go against the idea that we used to the greatest, but at the same time, we used to be able to get things done. Could you imagine something like Medicare or medicaid being passed in today's political climate? What about social security? When was the last minimum wage increase? We just seem to be stuck, and things are getting worse, not better.
@@joshuabonesteel2303 Let's take a step even further back to something even more simple that our society is so used to having. Try to get the concept of a library allowed without publishing companies, both physical and electronic, stepping in screaming about copyright and stealing work from authors.
Just a thought since I have an intelligence audience here: what would the Regan Republicans from the 80’s say about the 2022 Republican’s opposition to aiding Ukraine. Cold War-like Russia invades our ally who will soon be part of the EU and hopefully NATO, and to our enemy we don’t need to sacrifice our soldiers’ lives. We just need to give Ukraine a small fraction of our Defense budget to help severely damage Putin’s credibility and world influence, which may lead to his demise prompting a rise of new Russia leadership with values more inline with NATO.
@@jamess.6767 I like to think they'd be pretty horrified about a great deal of what today's Republicans get up to. I was no fan of Reagan, but I don't think he or anyone in his administration would have countenanced today's GOP's accommodation of fascists, Russian dictators or totalitarian despots.
That said, there's always been a pragmatic streak on the Right that tends to excuse some pretty awful behaviour among "allies" if they share the same enemies. So, it's actually a complicated question.
SORORITY GIRL! Don't be scared. 🤣
Great scenes, thank you for putting them together.
Maybe not the most known show, but who ever stumbled upon this part got hooked at least for a full season. that long for the magic of this part to wear off.
And around the world journalists and those who work in the news industry from every aspect of it, really look up to this show.
One of the most powerful moment ever televised….
Right up there with “I have a Dream” and “ask not what your Country can do for you”
I don’t know why I become so emotional while viewing this
Because it's rooted in a great deal of truth.
This was a really great show.
What an awesome and moving video. 💯
Best period scene period ever period.
and when that guy in the panel answer freedom and freedom i had to laugh
the best television show i have seen, period. In my life, period.
An absolute brilliant show.
Excellent and Profound Speech
Peter Finch in the film Network delivers a similar screed about the descent and decline of a once great America
This show and the West Wing make Aaron Sorkin one of the brightest minds to make TV shows.
TH-cam algorithm was very nice this time. What a masterpiece show. Good memories
Love this scene!
Underrated in social media
What masterpiece have I just witnessed??!!!!!
Gonna have to watch this.
I literally teared up.
This video reminds us of what we can be. Thank you for sharing it.
I completely agree with what he said. This scene is the single greatest TV moment in the last 80 years. I hope many more people see this. You can't really understand this country in context until you've left it. And Canada and Mexico don't count. Thank you.
Yes, living elsewhere as an expat opens the eyes.
I when I came back, I remember just being so full of awe and love for what this country is…founded on an idea: freedom; God-given freedom.
And didn’t Australia have their firearms confiscated by their government?
So what period in history are you referring to? When lynching black people was legal? When segregation and slavery was promoted? When they developed the atomic bomb to wipe out millions of innocents and commit war crimes against civilians in response to a naval base being attacked? When they hired Nazi German scientists into the CIA to advance their own programmes and gave them immunity. When they walked into Vietnam to commit atrocities that would last decades? When they created a war against Iraq based on made up reasons having nothing to do with Bin Laden and demolished cities and killed over half a million people? Wake up. America was never star spangled awesome. It's riches were always on the backs of slaves, poor and colonialism.
@@cindyreeves5048 didn't the US have 7 mass-shootings in 7 consecutive days (with hundreds more in history) and still be dumb enough not to protect its own people from senseless death?
Hi from Australia. We can still get reasonable guns, no ar15 and no mass shootings. So yay.
Also God is your master and controls you and the destiny of the world. So God given freedom is oximoronical.
If he doesn't control you and the world, what does he actually do? Is it even a God then or just an observer?
It is hard to come back here though and see the absolute rot in our systems born of centuries of good old boy agreements and bigotry. The most potential in the world, for both good and wrong.
Awesome combination! But if i may? Add the scene where MAC tells him it was her in the audiance? :)
I have seen this on disc...it's an amazing series.
This is speech that should be heard at every parliamentary discussion 😂
Favorite period, show period, ever period.
Brilliant !!
Could not have been said any better!
I love the look on that girl's face at 4:22 -- she's like, "OMG! I can't believe I'm seeing this! WTF!" Such great TV! :)
Sorkin is a national treasure
How to tell when someone's been actively messing with the algorithm again; Original video no longer comes up in own playlist feeds, off brand semi political one 4+ years later now shows up in multiple feeds.
TH-cam fully manipulates search results. its not quite nefarious as it is profiteering driven
Great video, great speech, IMO incorrect title. MAGA's a little different than this. This speech means progress, defying our current faults intelligently. MAGA seems to deify regress. Regardless, excellent upload.
"We aspired to intelligence, we didn't belittle it. We didn't scare so easy." Well that's just not true.
That would the one bit I would disagree on as well. "The Red Scare" made people quake in their boots pretty easily. People lost jobs just for mere speculation that they might be a communist sympathizer.
@@ExcentricDragon Exactly. When Sputnik launched, people crapped their pants. And they suspected elites and intellectuals as communist spies, as most people in all societies have always been distrustful of those more intelligent than they are.
@@ExcentricDragon There were A LOT of things wrong with the statistics he quoted as well. The reading, math, infant morality and life expectancy ones for instance. Those stats are from a self-reporting UN study, but what doesn't get mentioned is that there is no international standard for how to measure those. It' not even apples to oranges, it's like apples to meatloaf. The US has drastically broader definitions in it's statistics than other countries from everything from murder to infant mortality. While other countries only count their citizens, the US measures it's residents and their children, and when there US counts 8% of its population from impoverished areas, our numbers tend to drop. Also, let's take infant mortality. The US counts all infant deaths and late-term pregnancy loss in the third trimester. France doesn't count third-term pregnancy loss, or even if a LIVE birth results in infant death in the first 72 hours, a time period when 11% of infant deaths occur. Using a standard definition on that one topic would put the US ahead of France in both infant mortality and life expectancy.
@@matts1166 There was a study at Harvard in the 1990's, that showed the level of vocabulary and comprehension had declined since the Civil War. In the 80's Reagan slashed the education budget, and education levels began to decline to the extent that 50% of the CEO's in Silicon Valley are migrants (mainly from India); this is just one measure of American decline.
Loved this show. Absolute perfection.
This show was so damn good! Sucks it only lasted 3 seasons...
Will's Monologue is the TOP SCENE of ALL EPISODES AND ALL SEASONS of THE NEWSROOM.
YES YES , Thank you.....
Prophetic
This video did not include the girl who held the signs that said: "No It is Not." "But I Can Be" That's what triggered him to say the 2nd part of that speech.
Terms, we looked out for each other, and we did not scare so easily do not equate to Maga. As for informed. Being in a circle jerk of misinformation is not informed. Most Maga I talk to don't believe those statements about freedom, healthcare, infant mortality etc...
This has NOTHING to do with trump and the MAGA crazies. Trump would have hated this type of politics. it is to honest and he would not be able to just say what he wants without accountability.
Man, I miss this show!
I miss my country...I...Miss...my country
Yes, it is both tragic & frustrating to watch all the sell-out now a days. That’s WHY we cannot give up & allow ludicrous “bought”media to direct and decide the narrative.
God I missed the show. It was such a great crutique on the insanity that is the media.
He's right. But every citizen of Earth should believe that THEIR country is THE greatest and then do everything within their power to HELP make it just that.
Aaron Sorkin!! ❤️🥲
What great writers
I love this scene. However, in no way shape or form do I see it representing the MAGA movement. But before you get all pissed off it doesn't represent Democrats all that well either, at least not the old ones. You want to hear the same words, listen to Bernie Sanders! Good video though.
This does not represent MAGA. That's an insult to the show!
@@annmarieknapp2480 that's what I just said. LOL
You Americans are completely brainwashed and your inability to distinguish illusion from reality is shocking!
@@josephstalin4906 just curious, where are you from and why do you think Americans are brainwashed?
@@jow185 Anyone who can take elections seriously is completely brainwashed but you have outplayed everyone with your last 8 presidents, starting with B-movie actor and finishing with senile grandad who's unable to remember his name let alone run the country.
Everything shouldn’t be seen as business opportunity, USA !
It’s my life scene, my life show
We need this show to come back. There is so much more new material for it now that needs to be said. But that first episode could pretty much stay the same.
Sorkin is the GOAT.
There is so much truth there
FreeDumb.... FreeDumb.... FreeDumb!
That TV series should have aired at least that long as Greys Anatomy …😢
Notice that when he first stormed into the room he described her question as “moronic” and then at the end asked her to repeat her “idiotic” question.
She has been upgraded to being a Greater Fool indeed.
The reason we first moved in usa, and left it, 3 years after. Never planning to come back.
Ah...another HBO show to go off the air to soon. This and Rome were amazing.
Rome I ... yeah. Rome II not so much; Management cut the budgets so much it was impossible to maintain the quality level and be true to history as they did in series I. What a lost opportunity.
It’s not the best country in the world or country ever… it’s the best self healing country and political system ever devised… thank you John Decamp
An entire season for the payoff. I love good long form storytelling.
So my fellow Americans, after watching and lauding the writer, the actor and a brilliant drama, how do we get back to the America we lost? We have the legal and economic framework, but how do we get our country back?
My favorite part is really you are going to give her Freedom and Freedom, the part I love best about this speech is I am so exhausted by banal platitudes
Girl: What makes america the greatest country in the world?
Will: TH-cam
Every word is true.
This is a great scene and a great speech.
BTW all the things he mentions that make America not the greatest are all the things MAGAts stand for.
No it isnt
"...and we didn't scare so easy..." The real issue confronting our country today.
You should be scared, they already took our guns and hamburgers and now they are coming for our gas stoves!
@@pwilliam255 Fear is for the dumb. And judging by that statement, you're terrified.
@@jacoblaughbon3323 judging by your comment, you don’t understand sarcasm. 🤦♂️
@@pwilliam255 My apologies. These days, especially in text, with the levels of stupid running around, sarcasm is getting harder and harder to detect. It's easier in person, because you can hear inflections and see mannerisms. 😏
@@jacoblaughbon3323 my apologies too. I often forget there are people dumb enough to believe Fox News and would make a comment like I did seriously. I still hear the kitty litter in schools story from people to this day.
"What makes the U.S. the greatest country in the world?" "You do". She started out uneducated with preconceived beliefs, but meeting him challenged her, and instead of denying it, or hiding from it, she learned from it. Grew from it. If every citizen in the U.S. could grow like she did, we would be the greatest country in the world.
One of the greatest soliloquies in TV or movie. And radiates more true than ever even in 2022.
Just shows how a personal agenda, takes a term like MAGA and uses it as a negative. Because what American with any self-worth would not want to strive to Make America Great Again, or keep America great?
The problem is, one cannot possibly speak for (much less achieve) making America "Great" (again) without first answering the question of exactly WHEN it was great, WHAT specific things made it great, WHY those things were in fact great, and exactly HOW one is going to accomplish that goal. And thus far, very few have ever even attempted to give a proper answer, and of the few that DO try, most resort to moronic buzz words like "diversity and opportunity" and "freedom and freedom" which tell you nothing.
And since the vast majority of people who wear a MAGA hat cannot answer the question, the MAGA they chant means less than nothing. So yes, MAGA is a negative, because it has no meaning... its just a marketing slogan. So here's a better one - HTMAGA - "How to Make America Great Again"
Far more efficient, because it begs an actual answer... which is exactly why it will never take off.
Because we as a nation can't come to a consensus about what would make America great again.
As was alluded to in the clip, I think it is a moral question. And we, as a nation, are becoming increasingly amoral.
And social media is poisoning our minds.
This clip was posted 8 years ago and only has 11 (now 12) comments.
That should tell you something...
@@richard1472 but this isn't the only clip of this. There are several clips. You can't just count one video.
@@sousaetern1276
Your point is well taken.
Nevertheless, I stand by my comments, as always.
Enjoy your Thanksgiving.
MAGA took a great idea and turned it into a negative. There is nothing wrong with any nation wanting to be better or great again. When you take that desire and cast the blame on everyone else for the state of things, that's when it becomes a negative. Instead of doing as past generations have done, rolling up your sleeves and working to improve things for your fellow American at the bottom, you villainize. We thump our chest about going thousands of miles across oceans to set others free in WW 1&2 and paint those wanting to come here as thieves.
You can take any one of those issues and turn it into a call for good instead of hate rhetoric. Immigrants contributing to the growth of the economy instead of stealing jobs. Youth who are in need of support, direction, and investment from the community instead of kids who need to be locked up because they're dangerous. We will invest more time and effort into rehabilitating pitbulls than in changing the behavior of Youth. Make America Great Again with love, not hate and blame. That is the true Christian way. We know what Jesus would do because it's documented. Time to practice what we claim to believe.
If they hadn't dropped in that piano it would have been so much better.