This guy was then chased out of the EPA. Exiled and harassed, he was forced to change his name and identity. He lived out the rest of his days as Toby Flenderson in a small town called Scranton.
No it is not the same, the affect of what happens to water when it reaches 100 degree celsius we can obsvere over and over again, you can even test it at home easily. While the critical affects of manmade climate change we have yet not witness even one time.
@@HenrikE81 Actually water only boils @ 100°C at sea level. Climb mount Everest and it will boil at 71°C. So your position matters a great deal on the boiling point of water. :)
Anyone who replies that way to that statement knows that he will not get into trouble for saying this publicly. Actually getting in trouble would mean, in the American context, being fired from your job, blacklisted, possibly having your home attacked by state funded terrorists, and being repeatedly investigated by the FBI on spurious allegations for years if not decades until they find some reason to put you away. Saying "global warming bad" is literally state policy. It's like saying, "Jesus is our Lord and Savior" in 1723 in England. That's not going to get you in trouble.
The fact that he asks "Are you going to get in trouble for saying all of this?" And the guy replies "Who cares?" really puts the final nail in the coffin of the situation. This episode came out almost 10 years ago. Our situation has not improved, it has gotten worse. It will continue to get worse.
Yeah, those fires he mentioned are actually happening now... Can't wait to watch the 'storms that can wipe cities of the map' on CNN... That will be 'can't miss tv'....
@@e.h.5680 It's just anoying. I wholeheartedly believe that things should be done to combat climate change but I also understand that in order for a real change to happen this has to be sold to the public in a way that seems "attractive". Its sounds stupid but that's the reality. Activism needs to be smart not annoy people. When those girls a while back threw a soup at Van Goghs painting the conversation wasn't about their message but about the act of vandalism itself. I heard more info on how that painting wasn't damaged and why then what these girls were protesting against.
@@e.h.5680that's because stop oil doesn't do anything productive or convince anybody to believe in their cause. They just make everyone hate climate activists, making them a net negative to the cause.
Why didn't I see this show when it was on the air? It is hilarious. This aired about 10 years ago and what Mr Westbrook said is more true today than it was when first aired. We were 400 ppm's then and 426 ppm's today and it raises by 3-4 ppm every year. Now with the Northern tundra thawing out, expect that rate to rise even faster.
Rather than the political debate, I just want to praise the actor's delivery of his lines. He is clearly past the point of all hope, but is not even bothering to freak out. My favorite scene of a show all year. "Who cares?"
The really fun part is, CO2 has nothing to do with the increase of temperature, actually the graphics show almost always a inverted reality, as temperature rises, so does the CO2 level, because the oceans heat and release it into the atmosphere, the, when the temperature goes down, the opposite happens, with CO2 being absorbed back. The climate change armageddon propaganda is a fallacy. It has been propagating the leftist agenda and giving them voice, while serving to keep countries in develpment and under development in a virtual standstill when it comes to turning into competitive economies, thus maintaining large numbers of humans in less than ideal conditions. The diaspora of cientists linked to climate studies from the UN is a statement of how much it is a corrupt organism. I'm from Brazil, we have a scientist that shows clearly how much of these talks on global warming are absurd, and how much we actually bring in benefits, in reshaping the world. He has no funding, no support, simply because he believes that manking is a positive thing, rather and a stain of corruption on the face of the earth.
When he said "mass migration, deathly diseases, etc" I got chills. It is TV show, good one, but watching this in retrospect leaves horrible sense of dread.
@@aymuhspunj Canada has been burning for a hot minute now, and the fires might last until December. This clip is excessively doomerist and misses some important context, but a lot of what it mentions is pretty accurate.
He even gives you a false hope at the end the bastard:"if we listen to our scientists, and if we act decisively... I still don't see any way we can survive"
This position is false. There is still hope. By stoping our economic model based on the use of fossil fuel we can drasticly reduce our CO2 emisson. This would reduce in a limitation of +1.5°C increase - we are in 2019 at +1.0°C approximatevely. By limitating global warming at this level, the possibility of a pathaway exist. I suggest you to read "trajectories of earth in the anthropocene" - a Nature article of 2018. So we are not totally fucked yet if we take the action and the choice needed to solve the problem of global warming - we will be in 10 years if we don't.
@@jeanpierre7045 This is true, theoretically. But the sacrifices required would be so catastrophic and politically suicidal that it simply will not happen. It's hopeless. Truly. You're arguing theoretical, but the reality is filled with 50% of the world saying you're fantasizing about the reality of the situation.
@@jeanpierre7045 the problem is the loop effect. Methane hydrate is freed from the ocean which makes the earth warmer which frees even more. And we are close to having this loop that already started go completely out of control. At this point, the only solution I see would be strict measue dictatorial-style. Of course that just won't happen...
I’m not a scientist, but I can understand every scientist’s anger with this issue; to work your whole life towards a goal that’s set to save countless lives over centuries using cold hard facts, only to be ignored by everyone that can do something about it.
That's what happens when scientists have the arrogance to assume they can plunge headfirst into politics and expect the same level of blind deference they've grown accustomed to in academia.
I love that this was a lesson in making news TV for Maggie. She finally found the right subiect, right cause, right person to interview, right angle, and then the person being interviewed shuts down the conversation at every point by being brutally honest or cynical (your choice). It's not great TV but it's the truth.
@@llarmstrong783 except he did, most have happened. There has been mass migration from the south and Africa, we will be experiencing food shortages soon based on the droughts that farmers are experiencing due to climbing temperatures, we have so many wildfires in California more than usual based on the temp, we are experiencing a pandemic, and this will not be the first. The more the population grows gives way to more viruses and easily spreadable. It really is not a matter of if we will experiences these storms but when.
@@llarmstrong783 no one said it did, the planet warming has something to do with climate change. Pandemics has something to do with migrations of people. Which is one cause of climate change. Its different but somewhat the same.
@@llarmstrong783 It's just around the corner. The ogallala aquifer is toast. Colorado is at record lows. The entire southwest is going to have to be dispersed, but Phoenix will turn into the U.S. equivalent of Pakistan, mostly empty and only people left scraping to get by.
@@razofdead because of climate change and I don’t blame him ! What the fuck are you doing to try save the planet sitting in your apartment and eating pizza sitting on your phone and thinking it will all work out in the end , DO SOMETHING WAKE UP !!!!
How exactly would climate change cause us to go extinct? We’re almost certainly less than 20 years away from having people living on the surface of the moon, and it’s a whole lot worse there than it could ever get here. Even if all the fossil fuels were burned, every last drop of oil, even if the ice caps completely melted, the worst consequences I’m aware of would be the equator becoming uninhabitable due to heat/humidity preventing people from dissipating heat via sweating, and a mass extinction the likes of which haven’t been seen since the Permian. Obviously that’s no picnic and we should try to avoid it, but even if we don’t and instead we just keep getting worse like we always seem to, life will go on, and so will we.
@@oberonpanopticon my dear fellow are you here to shout talking points at me or do you have an open mind? Because if you want to do the latter I'd be glad to tell you. If it's the former, blocking you is easier for my mental happiness. Decide that first, and let me know. I have enough problems in my life. i do not need to waste it on someone who has already made up their mind and is spoiling for a fight.
I’m not trying to say we shouldn’t be trying to slow/stop/reverse global warming, I don’t want to live on a barren husk of an earth any more than the next person. I’m just saying that we’re one of the few species that are in no (immediate) danger of going extinct.
@@rustomkanishka Life survived the P-T extinction event, called The Great Dying, without any technology to mitigate its effects. Average world temperatures increased substantially, without the world coming to an end. Too many people are predicting our extinction, when there is no way this warming will kill our species. It would take a planetary catastrophe, probably bolide, to finish off all of us.
There is a difference between organized chaos and chaos. Telling people that immigrants will kill them with make them stop immigrants. What will telling them they signed their own death warrant do? There's a reason why Climate Change is "up for debate" now when it was "we have 20 years to change things" 25 years ago.
@@theblankfacegamer333 back then it was called global warming. They had to change it cause people stopped gving a shit because just like then nothings happened. Plus I thought we were in a plan oops I mean pandemic? So why would you want a bunch of unvetted people coming in?
@@christianbaker3564 What do you mean nothing happened. If you watched the video what happens when we destroy the planet include diseases spreading (Covid) and wildfires too big to fight (The US west coast and now Serbia). And you want to take all this in and say that I want a completely open boarder when I said nothing of the likes? You really need to get off your screen wether it be phone or computer and reexamine the world for what it is to you and get your priorities straight.
@@theblankfacegamer333 I do that by not listening to narratives from a scripted tv show written by an arrogant drug addicted boomer 🤣. Plus I don't know how covid and climate change are even kinda connected. If people think that then it's new to me. Wild fires are the result of horrific forrest management not climate change and why you want immigrants flooding into your country when there's a global pandemic is beyond me. Plus if you look into climate change you'll see it was originally called global warming. Why would they rebrand it? Mayne cause everyone stopped giving a shit so they needed to find a way to scare them and keep making money of off it
"If we face this problem head on, if we listen to our best scientists and act decisively, and passionately... I still don't see any way we can survive." Great writing. Funny and scary at the same time
I honestly hate this joke. While I'm a physicist rather than I climate scientist I can understand enough to get the broad strokes. We're not fucked quite yet, but on current government plans we will be, the international agreements target 2 degrees but will actually cause around 3.5 degrees and most scientists agree that to ward off significant destruction (millions dying due to climate change) you need to stay below 1.5, considering we're already at 1.2 that's extremely unlikely. it's not possible to measure directly but the death toll probably is already in the hundreds of thousands or millions(mainly caused by increased droughts and famines) and will substantially increase. However, it is possible to keep climate change below levels of complete devastation if we act and demand significant action immediately. However, between the inadequacy of governments and idiots yelling "the end is nigh" that just isn't happening on the scale needed
@@pioneer_1148 I understand your desire for hope, but it is in fact too late to avoid catastrophic global disaster. Even if we suddenly and miraculously had a change in human and societal behavior (which would at least buy us a little more time to try to fix things), and that's simply not going to happen. Knock off some things on that bucket list and get ready for the end. Also if you haven't already... DON'T have kids.
@@EmeraldView This clip was 8 years ago and it‘s still not too late, according to today‘s scientists. People have been saying it‘s too late since at least the 1970s. Stop your fear-mongering. We will be fine in the 1st world. We will create technology to better harness energy and protect us against the changing climate. Yes, people in the 3rd world will die, but who cares? We are too many people in the world anyway, it‘s the natural course of any species to correct itself. Oh, and I plan to have one or two kids with my girlfriend, because having a family is absolutely beautiful and gives me a warm feeling in my stomach. 😊
@@pioneer_1148 If we woke up tomorrow, and as Humans we decided. No more gas power cars. Everything will be 100 percent electric. We are using Nuclear Power as our Silver bullet for our power needs and transition to it safely using our best up to date methods and eliminate anything that isn't green energy. How close would we be to that 1.5 degrees?
Yeah now that we're in world war I think one of the biggest causes of our societal downfall was our inability to just be honest like I don't want you to tell me that I'm safe I want you to tell me that I'm f****** doomed and that you have a plan for it
Lies are refreshing? You're telling me you believe this stuff? Their climate predictions are about as accurate as the "flat-earthers" science. And we didn't go to the moon either, right? SMDH.
Does the world look like it's ending? Look around you. Are people more starved than in the past? Or fatter than ever? Clearly they will soon be claiming peace and security, like the Bible says
@@josephhoward4697 i live in a cold country. I'd like some warming. I strongly recommend researching the effects of increased co2 on plants. They grow bigger.
@@truth.speaker Oh, but you don’t. See, our thermalization of the atmosphere isn’t uniformly distributed. Remember when Texas had that horrific cold snap? Now, it would be stupid to say it was a direct consequence of climate change. It was a direct consequence of a series of events. But, each event in that series can become more likely due to climate change, which means cold snaps like that can happen again. Plants don’t like cold snaps. At -40 °F, nothing survives. If the cold snap struck a few weeks later, the whole world would be suffering from food shortages. The food shortages would be milder for the rest of the world than for the U.S., but prices would go up. And, while we’re on the subject of higher food prices, now would be a good time to bring up California and the Western U.S. at large. California has an immense agricultural output. I love within an hour of at least three different agricultural capitals of the world. The closest to me is the Garlic Capital of the World. The interesting thing about the Western U.S. is that we’re in an intense drought. Droughts tend to be self-reinforcing. Hot, dry air bakes the moisture out of the soil. Water tends to help absorb heat, keeping the air cool. But, when the moisture is gone, the ground becomes easier to heat. Heat rises, so the air also heats up faster. This means it will be easier to heat up any remaining moisture the next time around. Dry conditions create drier conditions until there is no moisture left. What happens when there is no moisture left? No crops. No crops means no food. No food means food shortages. This isn’t just happening in California. It’s the entire Western U.S. When you have such a large region of dry heat, it creates an area of great geopotential height. It creates a blocking pattern. This forces a deflection in the jet stream, which spills over into the Midwest. Now, some atmospheric physics is required. The jet stream is effectively a standing wave. It also marks the dividing line between the arctic airmass and the rest of the world’s airmasses. When you add energy into a standing wave, things start happening. You start introducing more and more harmonics. At the same time, by heating up the stratosphere above the Arctic, the “tension” of the jet stream is relaxed. For a while, the changes in characteristics are somewhat predictable. After a while, they stop being predictable. One way or another, the amplitude and period of the jet stream will become increasingly erratic. At the same time, the jet stream will start moving south. Even though the Arctic airmass is heating up, it won’t matter to humans. -60 °F to -50 °F is a drastic warmup for the climate, but it’s still pretty damned cold to us. As far as you’re concerned, your cold country will only get colder and stormier. When the jet stream does finally enters a broadly chaotic regime, the whole world will suffer. The Midwest will become a meteorological battleground. It will alternate between drastic heat spells and frigid temperatures, both of which start to lose seasonality. Cold snaps start happening in late spring, then early summer. Hot spells start happening in late fall, then early winter. Storms will be constantly moving through, bringing hail, floods, derechos, and tornadoes. Crops can’t grow in that. The United States produces a lot of the world’s food. What happens when we stop being able to produce food? The United States suffers famines, the rest of the world suffers from higher prices. Not only will your country see colder and stormier weather, but it will also see more people. Climate refugees will be moving up north. Humans can’t survive prolonged exposure to wet bulb temperatures greater than 35 °C. The tropics should be there in a few decades. People will flee or they’ll die trying. They’ll move up north. What’s happening to America will happen to every other country between the polar ice caps and the tropics. You are definitely not ready for any of this. Bigger plants don’t mean a goddamned thing if they can’t grow.
"That would have been great" sums up perfectly what my fellow students and their professors in meteoroly have been saying for the last five years everytime they are asked about how to solve climate change
This reminds me of Titanic, when the ship hit the iceberg they worked out really quickly that the ship would sink because 5 compartments had been breached. There were only enough lifeboats for half the passengers and yet the upper classes were sipping brandy in the luxurious dining area and the working classes were playing football on the deck. There was a band playing merry tunes. When you look at how calm and ignorant people were at the beginning compared with the absolute terrifying pandemonium when the ship broke in half and took the final plunge it's a good metaphor for the climate disaster we're facing.
Deadly disease, global wildfires out of control, more powerful storms wiping out entire towns. He forgot train derailments from warped lines, but otherwise it's frightening to see just how far it's progressed in less than a decade.
Really? There was no wild fires in the 1900s on a massive regional scale? “Global” is a BS exaggeration! The whole world hasn’t been on fire ffs. No massive flood events in long past history? No massive storm events hundreds of years ago? Might want to study human history rather than guzzling down bucket loads of woke sensationalists BS.
Deadly disease - Covid 19 pandemic - check Global wildfires - Australia, San Francisco, Canada - check Powerful storms - Remember when hurricane Andrew was a horrific anomaly? - check A long time ago, during one of my moves, I found an old VHS cassette and still had a player, so I popped it in. It was from 88/89. Magnum PI. Beauty and the Beast. At the end was a quick new blurb about a new, alarming trend - climate change. One of the things they said was, if the trend continues, it will become common place to see temps in the southeast and southwest in excess of 100 degrees F. That's nothing now. We are the frogs in the cold pot people... Put a frog in a hot pot, he jumps right out. Put him in a cold pot and turn the heat on he just stays there and boils to death. I'm not sorry for 'humanity', we'll get what we earned. I'm sorry for the children. They don't deserve this....
This was all predicted in the 1980s, the science was in 40 years ago. The oil and coal lobby paid public representatives to spread their propaganda, people ate it because it meant they wouldn't have to change. Now we're paying the price and things will continue to change whether we like it or not.
Damn!!! When he mentioned wild fires and diseases it gives me chills. It reminds me of Australia and Amazon fire and the Corona outbreak. He is spitting out facts.
And America would rather listen to corporate media and elect another big oil, anti-environmentalist for the Democratic Party. We can't win with either establishment because we're too happy to go down crashing and burning.
Yes he is... And scientists have been doing so for years, decades... but nobody listens because nobody believes that it could possibly happen. Buckle up folks, it's happening.
HELLO. We've been saying this for years and people have only laughed at us. Yes i work in the sustainability business. Idiots bringing snowballs into congress and trump oh my. If we make it through the next 5 years I'll be surprised but what that type of living will be like...oy. rather go during the first days and not the last. The food chain is on the edge with Covid. The food that was being grown for this year coming hasn't fared well with the shutdowns.
The truly depressing thing about this show is that the whole point of it was "let's report on the news *people should know*." But Toby was too depressing for them and they never covered climate change ever again in any episode.
@@Cozmikazi its a sham. read the articles. in the 70s the fear mongers were pushing something called global cooling lmfao you got tricked bro. Literally time magazine published articles about global cooling. then in the 80s and 90s it became global warming. now they just call it climate change since theyve been wrong everytime.
The year is 2023. Southern Brazil is getting a "Cyclone Season", for the first time in our history. Rio de Janeiro got 41°C last weekend. AT THE SAME TIME. Yeah, we're toast.
This is my single favorite scene from this series. Most point to the opening rant in the first episode, but this is Will McEvoy at his most Will McEvoyest.
I always kind of hated this line because the media has been so scared of scaring the public with this. Let us be scared. Scared people will realize this is a crisis and be spurred on to do something.
He said that so the guy could save himself. I mean if there is no hope why go on tv? Why work in EPA? The interviewer knew this was bullshit and the guy was delusional.
In truth, it isn't exaggerated. Civilization is hitting the perfect storm of events. These are 1) Peak fossil fuels 2) Resource depletion 3) Climate Change - Unstoppable now as we have hit all the tipping points There is a finite amount of oil/coal/gas on this planet. In 2015 we hit peak oil, by 2035 both coal and gas will peak as human civilization has an increasing demand, supplies are dropping. Renewable energy is the ONLY means of addressing the energy crisis in the coming decades. Climate change is unstoppable because we have raised the temperature enough to 1) cause loss of Arctic ice sufficient to make the Arctic an absorber of energy rather than a reflector. This is the albedo effect. This leads to a far worse problem, and that is outgassing of methan from the methane hydrates on the ocean floor. Methane is 17x the greenhouse gas that CO2 is. Essentially we have lit the fuse on a temperature explosion on planet earth. There is nothing that can stop the rise below 6C and scientist believe that 4C is the human extinction point. The problem is that we are in the middle of the 6th great mass extinction. Humanity can not survive without the other species that feed us, that feed the rest of life, that inhabit the oceans. These things are dying. As we it 2, 3, 4 C, the earths biosphere is collapsing and we no longer can prevent it.
Its not exaggerated at all. The wheels have come off now. The events of the last two years paint a clear picture of where we are heading. Your optimism may have been understandable in 2007 or even 2010 but not now. The cunning manipulative psychopaths and their armies of hysterical shrieking retards who have never read a scientific journal in their lives have won. We are now a late stage cancer patient. I see catastrophe in the next ten years if not sooner.
I was an ENVI Science major in college and my professor had a guest seminary class. The second guy he brought in was an atmospheric scientist who looked like a nihilistic Jesus who was basically telling us that nothing can be done at this point to fix the world because we’ll never take drastic measures to fix the issue. This was 2014 and my life has only spiraled since then as I see what he was talking about
Your life spiraled because you listened to a nihilist? Did a hurricane come and knock your house down, or did you fail to take control of your own life and blame it on other things?
mass migrations?: check food and water shortages?: check spread of deadly diseases?: check endless wildfires?: check storms that have the power to level cities?: ...
The problem is not that some people decided to sit in the car. . .the problem is that they are making their families, kids aunts, neighbors sit with them after they locked the garage door.
More like, every mom, dad, grandma and grandpa decided to enjoy the AC and the radio, as they'd die naturally before the exhaust built up... But didn't think about their kids and grandkids in the back.. And then got annoyed & angry at them when they started telling them to stop.. Somehow insisting that "turning off the car" is just a ploy the kids have fallen for, to make money (and also to bankrupt the oil & gas industry, who aren't doing anything just to make money, apparently).
(Also, overpopulation is *not* the problem, if that's what you're implying. We could support an even larger population for ages & ages still, if they weren't consuming, producing & wasting as much as Westerners. Not to mention that 90 some % is from industry, not individuals. We'd be in the clear even if all we did was shut down every US/UK/Canadian company operating all over the world.)
Best lines: "- There are two things you should know: first, half of the human's population lives within 120 miles of an ocean. And the other? - Humans can't breathe under water." - "There isn't any position on this anymore than there's a position about the temperature at which water boils." - "Who cares?" - "if we listen to our scientists, and if we act decisively... I still don't see any way we can survive"
Funny, I don't remember that part. I do remember the EPA shutting down companies that employed thousands of people, showed a profit, paid their share of local and federal taxes, contributed to Clean Air/Clean Water programs, built or funded hospitals, medical research and children's charities. We don't have many of those companies left do we? "Save the Spotted Owl!", "We can but we'd have to destroy a dozen companies that employ 500,000 people." "Fuck em! Let's do this".
@@smilingkevin No you didn't get it, sorry. The point was that the EPA has done more harm than good, which is provable. Much like Greenpeace ramming boats to stop whaling but killing people and causing fuel spills poisoning the water that whales live in. Good intentions but ineffective.
OMG. 🤣!!! I’ve only seen two clips of this show and this is F great!!! **side stitches!! My sentiments exactly for the past 20years!!! It’s like the writers were inside my brain. Just amazing!!
@Kashif Shabbir Respectfully disagree. HIs turn as John Scully in Steve Jobs? The one on one scene with Fassbender was riveting. The guy can do everything.
Mass migration encouraged by global leaders, food and water shortages caused by lockdowns, deadly diseases leaked from a lab, wildfires started by men in poorly planned forests. The only one of those we can pin on climate change may be storms, and even that’s questionable. Science isn’t consensus, it’s a method for find truth. If 99 out of a hundred scientists come to the wrong conclusion, they can’t change fucking reality to make it right.
@@Scatmanseth Ask farmers who are having trouble growing food which is contributing to the food shortages if it’s all bullshit. Perfectly fine for you to not speak on something you clearly aren’t educated about.
"You're saying the situation is dire?" "Not exactly. Uh...Your house is burning to the ground, the situation is dire. Your house has ALREADY burned to the ground, the situation is over." I should panic or freak out when I hear that, yet oddly enough I'm actually kind of calm instead.
The end of Man doesn't mean the end of Earth. This planet will get over us. It's been floating around for 4.5 billion years. We are but a single frame in a very, very long film.
But risking the survival of civilization and by consequence our own species, is putting into mortal jeopardy what may be the single emergent moment of conscious self-awareness in the entire universe ever. And while I have no doubt some life could prevail, there is no guarantee the biodiversity which facilitated our own evolution would ever recover to the levels our ancestors witnessed. It is entirely possible life itself was a highly random event in a unforgiving universe of cold black emptiness. Bio, organismic, neurological, emotional, rational, philosophical, social, ethical, intentional complexity might be a one hit wonder, a cosmic lottery that once squandered is beyond remit. And the final telos of our entirety is henceforth ceding inito entropy, decay and heat death at the end of time.
This really is one of the most glorious moments of television like ever. It's just so perfectly written, directed and acted. Massive kudos to Jeff Daniels and **especially** Paul Lieberstein.
I live in a city that was warned by experts if we didn't take drastic measures in the next ten years then traffic would become completely unmanageable. We're just now rushing to try to meet those standards. Unfortunately that warning came 15 years ago and this city is now in the top 20 nationally and top 100 globally for worst traffic situations. So...
For all the proponents of free speech in the U.S. this would be labeled as radical. We literally are living in this environment and the majority of people don't care.
The hardest to believe part of this is that he said these things and then people looked up with shocked and serious faces. This is happening because in your core, you still believe that this isn't going to be a problem in your life. You own a house that you won't be able to sell before retirement in an area that will become uninhabitable due to sea level rise, hurricanes, forest fires, or lack of water.
Too bad climate change is all bullshit. The earth naturally changes temperature on its own, just look at the ice age. Do you believe we can stop an ice age from happening? Throwing trillions of dollars in the garbage trying to stop mother nature from doing its thing is a fools game
Speak for yourself. I might *live* in a house that I won't be able to sell before retirement in an area that will become uninhabitable, but I sure as hell don't own it
"There's a lot we could do .... if it were 20 years ago, or even 10 years ago. But now ............... no." I feel really bad that I laughed my ass off at this.
This video gives me such a peace; it feels so refreshingly honest and direct. I’m not sure how accurate it is, but I guess it feels like closure. Anyone else?
Oh God, I've been struggling to put that funny feeling into words and then I read you saying it "feels like closure" and my soul just slipped out of my body, I can't describe it but you're spot on. It's not the good kind of peace, where you know everything will be okay, but it's not a bad feeling either. Speaking for me, who is 24 and had never been a politician or the CEO of an oil company or some shit, it's arriving very late to the party to discover the house is on fire, but not only is there nothing I can do, there's nothing I could have ever done. It was out of my hands from day one.
Yeah, there's so many looming awful crises (well, mostly just climate, covid, and insidious fascism, but that's still a lot) that we all know are Bad, but we don't really know how bad, or even how to categorize Badness of this scale. The bleak honesty of "it will be hell on earth, in these specific ways:" is exactly the kind of sentiment many of us spend hours every day both seeking and fleeing from- we want to know how bad it will be, and we also desperately reject that that badness will really come to pass. It is the truth, and it is awful, and it is inescapable. But we all have to get out of bed and put in our time at the wage slavery factory, so inescapable awful truth is not actually a desirable journalistic product. How often do you see the headlines "we fucked up the first few months of Covid and human life might be permanently worsened world-wide as a result" or "the dominant political system of the free world is fundamentally vulnerable to demagoguery and xenophobia and nobody has proposed a serious solution to this"? You might see thinkpieces that suggest things are bad, but objective, empirical statements on the General Shitty State of Things? Nah. Nobody wants to read that. They'd be better off if they did, but they don't. Fwiw humans are really fucking hard to exterminate. I doubt climate change will drive us extinct. But man oh man will it will make us curse our forefathers' names as we toil in a broken world spoilt by the follies of the dead. Personally I think we should just go full on Logan's Run with Earth's dwindling carrying capacity. Decent shot of fusion power or brain uploading saving us at the eleventh hour too.
It's accurate. See, everything is delicately balanced. When something goes down, it drags Dow other things. Like dominoes. Life will not end, but modern civilization will.
@Antediluvian Atheist If the new report out of NASA is correct in its findings that 10°C is already baked in, then even a post-apocalyptic dystopia is a best-case scenario
the shocked looks from the backroom staff? yeah right. if they heard this they would just shrug. humans have an amazing ability to ignore non immediate threats.
They normally would like Will was saying 1000 years. They wouldn't care much, but when he said "a person has already been born who will die from catastrophic faluire of the planet." They perked up realising that it will affect them...
I don't think that's true. The people that are genuinely concerned about climate change are the ones that aren't ignorant, greedy and/or simply don't care. The people that don't understand it or mistakenly believe that global annihilation is impossible because "everything has always worked out in the end" would be the ones that shrug.
I mean people don't really care when all you care is just scream and alarm and never give any practical solutions. You just sound like that crazed Jewish prophet who just keeps screaming god shall end you for your insolence!!
@@juanrassis Biden??? Biden isn't doing anything. I don't mind that he'll have a lame duck administration. I'd rather congress and the president pass absolutely nothing. We have enough laws and every time we pass more the rich find the loop holes and get richer and the web of laws just gets more confusing. Better to pass nothing than pass garbage and garbage is the only think congress can come up with.
yes.. and its going spread. Alaska is having fires. Last few years Siberia is having fires. in 2017 BC forest system had 500 fires and it was the most distructive fire in history.
I love how bluntly accurate this is. The general consensus has been “we’re basically fucked”, yet politicians think that it’s a huge hoax. Even when the evidence is all there.
You do realize we are 2 years past the predicted Global Warming Doom? So yah it was all a hoax. What you need 20 more years before you admit it? LOL why don't you just join a cult instead?
@@fenrisulven5324 global warming doesn't work like you're thinking. There's not an exact D-day, just little milestones we're hitting and things we can see happening but are choosing to do nothing about like coastal cities going underwater, ice caps melting, increasing temperatures leading to more droughts, etc. Basically if we do jack shit it's going to be "fun" a few decades from now.
This guy was then chased out of the EPA. Exiled and harassed, he was forced to change his name and identity. He lived out the rest of his days as Toby Flenderson in a small town called Scranton.
why does this have no comments
@@danielhaddon9965 because the mastery speaks for itself
That explains toby’s bleak as shit attitude and pessimistic outlook towards EVERYTHING
And rightfully so.
lololol!!! hahahahahaha!
“We need someone to deliver bad news on television”, “Get me TOBY FLENDERSON!”
Jared Ashdown NOOOOOO! GOD! NOOO GOD PLEAASE NOOOOOO!
Who knew you could learn so much about the Climate in Costa Rica...
AKA scranton strangler
Why are you the way that you are?
Suck on this ...TOBY
The enthusiastic "Thanks for having me" at the very end just cracks me up.
The only shocking part of this was that it showed anyone actually listening.
What a terrific succinct line.
"There isn't any position on this anymore than there's a position about the temperature at which water boils."
No it is not the same, the affect of what happens to water when it reaches 100 degree celsius we can obsvere over and over again, you can even test it at home easily. While the critical affects of manmade climate change we have yet not witness even one time.
While it's a cool line, it's not actually true. Pressure also has an effect on the temperature at which water boils.
@@HenrikE81 Actually, it depends on the atmospheric pressure above the water. But nice try playing smart
Yeah, loved that line.
@@HenrikE81 Actually water only boils @ 100°C at sea level. Climb mount Everest and it will boil at 71°C. So your position matters a great deal on the boiling point of water. :)
"Are you gonna get into trouble for saying this publicly?"
"Who cares?"..... Brilliant answer 😅
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Anyone who replies that way to that statement knows that he will not get into trouble for saying this publicly.
Actually getting in trouble would mean, in the American context, being fired from your job, blacklisted, possibly having your home attacked by state funded terrorists, and being repeatedly investigated by the FBI on spurious allegations for years if not decades until they find some reason to put you away.
Saying "global warming bad" is literally state policy. It's like saying, "Jesus is our Lord and Savior" in 1723 in England. That's not going to get you in trouble.
The fact that this is equal parts hilarious and absolutely terrifying is a testament to the writers and the acting.
What's so terrifying about it?
@@rlgh2867always rare but cool to see a climate change denier in the wild. Its like seeing an orca in person
The fact that he asks "Are you going to get in trouble for saying all of this?"
And the guy replies "Who cares?" really puts the final nail in the coffin of the situation. This episode came out almost 10 years ago. Our situation has not improved, it has gotten worse. It will continue to get worse.
And yet you can see people booing when some orange powder gets spread on tennis courts by Stop Oil.
Yeah, those fires he mentioned are actually happening now... Can't wait to watch the 'storms that can wipe cities of the map' on CNN... That will be 'can't miss tv'....
@@e.h.5680 It's just anoying. I wholeheartedly believe that things should be done to combat climate change but I also understand that in order for a real change to happen this has to be sold to the public in a way that seems "attractive". Its sounds stupid but that's the reality. Activism needs to be smart not annoy people. When those girls a while back threw a soup at Van Goghs painting the conversation wasn't about their message but about the act of vandalism itself. I heard more info on how that painting wasn't damaged and why then what these girls were protesting against.
@@e.h.5680that's because stop oil doesn't do anything productive or convince anybody to believe in their cause. They just make everyone hate climate activists, making them a net negative to the cause.
It’s not real 😂 it’s a movie based on fiction
"Thanks for having me!"
Still gets me.
Could've also gone with …
"Have a nice day".
Missed that. Pure gold
Fav part
can someone fill me in? I don't get this
@@casbot71 No he couldn't
Dammit, Toby!
Michael is pissed! Toby always ruins it
Nooooo! Noooooooo, no, no, no, noooooo
He's such a thief of joy.😄
I heard this in President Bartlet voice.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Why didn't I see this show when it was on the air? It is hilarious. This aired about 10 years ago and what Mr Westbrook said is more true today than it was when first aired. We were 400 ppm's then and 426 ppm's today and it raises by 3-4 ppm every year. Now with the Northern tundra thawing out, expect that rate to rise even faster.
Individual humans are capable of great acts of charity, compassion, and selflessness. Unfortunately, we don't put those people in charge of ANYTHING.
*Can you provide us with an analogy?"
"Yes. It's as if the Scranton Strangler strangled you 20 years ago and you're already dead."
Lmaooo
Will: “What would be the solution?”
Toby: “Not being strangled.”
@@robynharris7179 "Let me correct myself, Not being strangled... 20 years ago" 🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Personally I thought the best analogy was "You have cancer. It mestatized a year ago."
Rather than the political debate, I just want to praise the actor's delivery of his lines. He is clearly past the point of all hope, but is not even bothering to freak out. My favorite scene of a show all year.
"Who cares?"
I agree. He looked done with trying, sitting there stating facts like a robot. Props to the actor.
SlyScyther ..........yip, I agree too
The really fun part is, CO2 has nothing to do with the increase of temperature, actually the graphics show almost always a inverted reality, as temperature rises, so does the CO2 level, because the oceans heat and release it into the atmosphere, the, when the temperature goes down, the opposite happens, with CO2 being absorbed back. The climate change armageddon propaganda is a fallacy. It has been propagating the leftist agenda and giving them voice, while serving to keep countries in develpment and under development in a virtual standstill when it comes to turning into competitive economies, thus maintaining large numbers of humans in less than ideal conditions. The diaspora of cientists linked to climate studies from the UN is a statement of how much it is a corrupt organism. I'm from Brazil, we have a scientist that shows clearly how much of these talks on global warming are absurd, and how much we actually bring in benefits, in reshaping the world. He has no funding, no support, simply because he believes that manking is a positive thing, rather and a stain of corruption on the face of the earth.
Caio Silveira Batista CO2 does affect temperature and there is no way to solve that permanently
@@Burncsb You have a poor grasp of the science. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_cycle
When he said "mass migration, deathly diseases, etc" I got chills. It is TV show, good one, but watching this in retrospect leaves horrible sense of dread.
>endless wildfires
When was the last year without a great big wildfire?
@@aymuhspunj Canada has been burning for a hot minute now, and the fires might last until December. This clip is excessively doomerist and misses some important context, but a lot of what it mentions is pretty accurate.
Storms and rolling blackouts?! Shoot, my cities terrible infrastructure has me sweating every time it rains a little hard.
@@aymuhspunjyou guys were about 2 weeks early on this one.
@@Matt-xc6sp yeah, man. I'm not a time traveller or anything after all. That would be impossible.
The point you realize what he’s talking about has already come to fruition. 😳🤯
You’ve only seen the warmup stages. The worst hasn’t even began
He even gives you a false hope at the end the bastard:"if we listen to our scientists, and if we act decisively... I still don't see any way we can survive"
Yeah lmao
This position is false. There is still hope. By stoping our economic model based on the use of fossil fuel we can drasticly reduce our CO2 emisson. This would reduce in a limitation of +1.5°C increase - we are in 2019 at +1.0°C approximatevely. By limitating global warming at this level, the possibility of a pathaway exist.
I suggest you to read "trajectories of earth in the anthropocene" - a Nature article of 2018.
So we are not totally fucked yet if we take the action and the choice needed to solve the problem of global warming - we will be in 10 years if we don't.
@@jeanpierre7045 This is true, theoretically. But the sacrifices required would be so catastrophic and politically suicidal that it simply will not happen. It's hopeless. Truly. You're arguing theoretical, but the reality is filled with 50% of the world saying you're fantasizing about the reality of the situation.
@@spackle9999 Hope you are wrong - see you in eight years bro.
@@jeanpierre7045 the problem is the loop effect. Methane hydrate is freed from the ocean which makes the earth warmer which frees even more. And we are close to having this loop that already started go completely out of control. At this point, the only solution I see would be strict measue dictatorial-style. Of course that just won't happen...
I’m not a scientist, but I can understand every scientist’s anger with this issue; to work your whole life towards a goal that’s set to save countless lives over centuries using cold hard facts, only to be ignored by everyone that can do something about it.
You mean to get paid to parrot “consensus” while silencing dissent?
@@Scatmanseth Of course not, I’m sure you know everything there is to know about how the world spins. 😁
This is the age where feelings are more important that facts.
Yeah but if you work for Exxon you can’t buy a fourth house and a third boat if people stop buying oil, use your head
That's what happens when scientists have the arrogance to assume they can plunge headfirst into politics and expect the same level of blind deference they've grown accustomed to in academia.
I love that this was a lesson in making news TV for Maggie. She finally found the right subiect, right cause, right person to interview, right angle, and then the person being interviewed shuts down the conversation at every point by being brutally honest or cynical (your choice). It's not great TV but it's the truth.
The look on Will's face at 2:20 is just priceless. "Dammit, man, give me something to work with here..."
LOl this man just basically described 2020 and 2021 going forward.
Right? We're already fucked, no point trying to fix it now
No, he described 2000 or 2001.
@@llarmstrong783 except he did, most have happened. There has been mass migration from the south and Africa, we will be experiencing food shortages soon based on the droughts that farmers are experiencing due to climbing temperatures, we have so many wildfires in California more than usual based on the temp, we are experiencing a pandemic, and this will not be the first. The more the population grows gives way to more viruses and easily spreadable. It really is not a matter of if we will experiences these storms but when.
@@llarmstrong783 no one said it did, the planet warming has something to do with climate change. Pandemics has something to do with migrations of people. Which is one cause of climate change. Its different but somewhat the same.
@@llarmstrong783 It's just around the corner. The ogallala aquifer is toast. Colorado is at record lows. The entire southwest is going to have to be dispersed, but Phoenix will turn into the U.S. equivalent of Pakistan, mostly empty and only people left scraping to get by.
“Are you going to get in trouble for saying this?” “Who cares.”
That man has depression...
Because maybe his love ones would suffer
@@razofdead because of climate change and I don’t blame him ! What the fuck are you doing to try save the planet sitting in your apartment and eating pizza sitting on your phone and thinking it will all work out in the end , DO SOMETHING WAKE UP !!!!
@@mandemt1076 yet here you are
I wish the ppl in government were like this more often. They need to stop trying to save themselves save the entire body. Tell the truth
@@mandemt1076 hypocrisy at it's best
This is where we were eight years ago. Things have gotten considerably worse since then.
This is the worst part about it. We look at the fact that we are not doing anything about our own extinction.
And it's considered 'ratings poison'.
How exactly would climate change cause us to go extinct?
We’re almost certainly less than 20 years away from having people living on the surface of the moon, and it’s a whole lot worse there than it could ever get here. Even if all the fossil fuels were burned, every last drop of oil, even if the ice caps completely melted, the worst consequences I’m aware of would be the equator becoming uninhabitable due to heat/humidity preventing people from dissipating heat via sweating, and a mass extinction the likes of which haven’t been seen since the Permian. Obviously that’s no picnic and we should try to avoid it, but even if we don’t and instead we just keep getting worse like we always seem to, life will go on, and so will we.
@@oberonpanopticon my dear fellow are you here to shout talking points at me or do you have an open mind?
Because if you want to do the latter I'd be glad to tell you.
If it's the former, blocking you is easier for my mental happiness. Decide that first, and let me know.
I have enough problems in my life. i do not need to waste it on someone who has already made up their mind and is spoiling for a fight.
@@oberonpanopticonwhat a wonderfully self-unaware comment. Really underlines why this issue has been treated the way it has.
Just amazingly well put.
I’m not trying to say we shouldn’t be trying to slow/stop/reverse global warming, I don’t want to live on a barren husk of an earth any more than the next person. I’m just saying that we’re one of the few species that are in no (immediate) danger of going extinct.
@@rustomkanishka Life survived the P-T extinction event, called The Great Dying, without any technology to mitigate its effects. Average world temperatures increased substantially, without the world coming to an end. Too many people are predicting our extinction, when there is no way this warming will kill our species. It would take a planetary catastrophe, probably bolide, to finish off all of us.
“we want to inform people, not alarm them.”
can tell this is a fictional show.
There is a difference between organized chaos and chaos. Telling people that immigrants will kill them with make them stop immigrants. What will telling them they signed their own death warrant do? There's a reason why Climate Change is "up for debate" now when it was "we have 20 years to change things" 25 years ago.
@@theblankfacegamer333 back then it was called global warming. They had to change it cause people stopped gving a shit because just like then nothings happened. Plus I thought we were in a plan oops I mean pandemic? So why would you want a bunch of unvetted people coming in?
@@christianbaker3564 WTF?
@@christianbaker3564 What do you mean nothing happened. If you watched the video what happens when we destroy the planet include diseases spreading (Covid) and wildfires too big to fight (The US west coast and now Serbia). And you want to take all this in and say that I want a completely open boarder when I said nothing of the likes? You really need to get off your screen wether it be phone or computer and reexamine the world for what it is to you and get your priorities straight.
@@theblankfacegamer333 I do that by not listening to narratives from a scripted tv show written by an arrogant drug addicted boomer 🤣. Plus I don't know how covid and climate change are even kinda connected. If people think that then it's new to me.
Wild fires are the result of horrific forrest management not climate change and why you want immigrants flooding into your country when there's a global pandemic is beyond me. Plus if you look into climate change you'll see it was originally called global warming. Why would they rebrand it? Mayne cause everyone stopped giving a shit so they needed to find a way to scare them and keep making money of off it
"If we face this problem head on, if we listen to our best scientists and act decisively, and passionately... I still don't see any way we can survive."
Great writing. Funny and scary at the same time
They've predicted the end of the world for years. These moron ""scientists"" are about as clairvoyant as covid ""” scientists"""""
I honestly hate this joke. While I'm a physicist rather than I climate scientist I can understand enough to get the broad strokes. We're not fucked quite yet, but on current government plans we will be, the international agreements target 2 degrees but will actually cause around 3.5 degrees and most scientists agree that to ward off significant destruction (millions dying due to climate change) you need to stay below 1.5, considering we're already at 1.2 that's extremely unlikely.
it's not possible to measure directly but the death toll probably is already in the hundreds of thousands or millions(mainly caused by increased droughts and famines) and will substantially increase. However, it is possible to keep climate change below levels of complete devastation if we act and demand significant action immediately.
However, between the inadequacy of governments and idiots yelling "the end is nigh" that just isn't happening on the scale needed
@@pioneer_1148 I understand your desire for hope, but it is in fact too late to avoid catastrophic global disaster. Even if we suddenly and miraculously had a change in human and societal behavior (which would at least buy us a little more time to try to fix things), and that's simply not going to happen.
Knock off some things on that bucket list and get ready for the end.
Also if you haven't already... DON'T have kids.
@@EmeraldView
This clip was 8 years ago and it‘s still not too late, according to today‘s scientists. People have been saying it‘s too late since at least the 1970s.
Stop your fear-mongering. We will be fine in the 1st world. We will create technology to better harness energy and protect us against the changing climate. Yes, people in the 3rd world will die, but who cares? We are too many people in the world anyway, it‘s the natural course of any species to correct itself.
Oh, and I plan to have one or two kids with my girlfriend, because having a family is absolutely beautiful and gives me a warm feeling in my stomach. 😊
@@pioneer_1148 If we woke up tomorrow, and as Humans we decided. No more gas power cars. Everything will be 100 percent electric. We are using Nuclear Power as our Silver bullet for our power needs and transition to it safely using our best up to date methods and eliminate anything that isn't green energy. How close would we be to that 1.5 degrees?
Two planets meet:
"How are you doing?
"Not so good, actually. I got humans"
"Ah don't worry, I had that, too. That passes."
As George Carlin said, it's just human arrogance trying to "save the planet". Planet is not going anywhere. We are.
when he says "that would have been GREAT..........20 years ago" i got a laugh out of that LOL
If this was the way news was done, I'd be complete as a person. It was just so brutal it was refreshing.
But there are serious consequences for telling the truth hence the reason why they don't. Just ask Guy McPherson or Sam Carana.
Yeah now that we're in world war I think one of the biggest causes of our societal downfall was our inability to just be honest like I don't want you to tell me that I'm safe I want you to tell me that I'm f****** doomed and that you have a plan for it
This was actually a real interview , its kinda less bad than the actual interview
Lies are refreshing? You're telling me you believe this stuff? Their climate predictions are about as accurate as the "flat-earthers" science. And we didn't go to the moon either, right? SMDH.
@STD092812 its pretty much word for word of the actual interview of the guy in rl , most of the stories on here are
Toby was destined to the “That Guy” who breaks all the optimism about Climate change action!! Terrific casting!!
Does the world look like it's ending?
Look around you. Are people more starved than in the past? Or fatter than ever?
Clearly they will soon be claiming peace and security, like the Bible says
@@truth.speaker Yes, just rather slowly.
Toby spent years warning us about silent killers
@@josephhoward4697 i live in a cold country. I'd like some warming. I strongly recommend researching the effects of increased co2 on plants. They grow bigger.
@@truth.speaker Oh, but you don’t. See, our thermalization of the atmosphere isn’t uniformly distributed. Remember when Texas had that horrific cold snap? Now, it would be stupid to say it was a direct consequence of climate change. It was a direct consequence of a series of events. But, each event in that series can become more likely due to climate change, which means cold snaps like that can happen again.
Plants don’t like cold snaps. At -40 °F, nothing survives. If the cold snap struck a few weeks later, the whole world would be suffering from food shortages. The food shortages would be milder for the rest of the world than for the U.S., but prices would go up.
And, while we’re on the subject of higher food prices, now would be a good time to bring up California and the Western U.S. at large. California has an immense agricultural output. I love within an hour of at least three different agricultural capitals of the world. The closest to me is the Garlic Capital of the World.
The interesting thing about the Western U.S. is that we’re in an intense drought. Droughts tend to be self-reinforcing. Hot, dry air bakes the moisture out of the soil. Water tends to help absorb heat, keeping the air cool. But, when the moisture is gone, the ground becomes easier to heat. Heat rises, so the air also heats up faster. This means it will be easier to heat up any remaining moisture the next time around. Dry conditions create drier conditions until there is no moisture left. What happens when there is no moisture left? No crops. No crops means no food. No food means food shortages. This isn’t just happening in California. It’s the entire Western U.S.
When you have such a large region of dry heat, it creates an area of great geopotential height. It creates a blocking pattern. This forces a deflection in the jet stream, which spills over into the Midwest.
Now, some atmospheric physics is required. The jet stream is effectively a standing wave. It also marks the dividing line between the arctic airmass and the rest of the world’s airmasses. When you add energy into a standing wave, things start happening. You start introducing more and more harmonics. At the same time, by heating up the stratosphere above the Arctic, the “tension” of the jet stream is relaxed. For a while, the changes in characteristics are somewhat predictable. After a while, they stop being predictable. One way or another, the amplitude and period of the jet stream will become increasingly erratic. At the same time, the jet stream will start moving south. Even though the Arctic airmass is heating up, it won’t matter to humans. -60 °F to -50 °F is a drastic warmup for the climate, but it’s still pretty damned cold to us. As far as you’re concerned, your cold country will only get colder and stormier.
When the jet stream does finally enters a broadly chaotic regime, the whole world will suffer. The Midwest will become a meteorological battleground. It will alternate between drastic heat spells and frigid temperatures, both of which start
to lose seasonality. Cold snaps start happening in late spring, then early summer. Hot spells start happening in late fall, then early winter. Storms will be constantly moving through, bringing hail, floods, derechos, and tornadoes. Crops can’t grow in that. The United States produces a lot of the world’s food. What happens when we stop being able to produce food? The United States suffers famines, the rest of the world suffers from higher prices.
Not only will your country see colder and stormier weather, but it will also see more people. Climate refugees will be moving up north. Humans can’t survive prolonged exposure to wet bulb temperatures greater than 35 °C. The tropics should be there in a few decades. People will flee or they’ll die trying. They’ll move up north. What’s happening to America will happen to every other country between the polar ice caps and the tropics.
You are definitely not ready for any of this. Bigger plants don’t mean a goddamned thing if they can’t grow.
Wow... Right now mass migration, lack of food, record high temperatures and droughts.... Everything exactly what he's explaining
"That would have been great" sums up perfectly what my fellow students and their professors in meteoroly have been saying for the last five years everytime they are asked about how to solve climate change
"Let's see if we can't find a better spin, people are starting their weekends."
What a show that was.
This reminds me of Titanic, when the ship hit the iceberg they worked out really quickly that the ship would sink because 5 compartments had been breached. There were only enough lifeboats for half the passengers and yet the upper classes were sipping brandy in the luxurious dining area and the working classes were playing football on the deck. There was a band playing merry tunes. When you look at how calm and ignorant people were at the beginning compared with the absolute terrifying pandemonium when the ship broke in half and took the final plunge it's a good metaphor for the climate disaster we're facing.
Time to re-arrange the deck chairs!
It’s a pretty good metaphor for society as a whole, climate change crisis included.
Precisely
damn and I have class tomorrow
Unfortunately, you are absolutely right.
Deadly disease, global wildfires out of control, more powerful storms wiping out entire towns. He forgot train derailments from warped lines, but otherwise it's frightening to see just how far it's progressed in less than a decade.
Really? There was no wild fires in the 1900s on a massive regional scale? “Global” is a BS exaggeration! The whole world hasn’t been on fire ffs. No massive flood events in long past history? No massive storm events hundreds of years ago? Might want to study human history rather than guzzling down bucket loads of woke sensationalists BS.
People being seriously injured tripping on the street in Arizona because the ground is hot enough to deliver third degree burns.
Deadly disease - Covid 19 pandemic - check
Global wildfires - Australia, San Francisco, Canada - check
Powerful storms - Remember when hurricane Andrew was a horrific anomaly? - check
A long time ago, during one of my moves, I found an old VHS cassette and still had a player, so I popped it in. It was from 88/89. Magnum PI. Beauty and the Beast. At the end was a quick new blurb about a new, alarming trend - climate change. One of the things they said was, if the trend continues, it will become common place to see temps in the southeast and southwest in excess of 100 degrees F. That's nothing now. We are the frogs in the cold pot people...
Put a frog in a hot pot, he jumps right out. Put him in a cold pot and turn the heat on he just stays there and boils to death. I'm not sorry for 'humanity', we'll get what we earned. I'm sorry for the children. They don't deserve this....
This was all predicted in the 1980s, the science was in 40 years ago. The oil and coal lobby paid public representatives to spread their propaganda, people ate it because it meant they wouldn't have to change. Now we're paying the price and things will continue to change whether we like it or not.
"That would have been Great!" - gets me every time! :)
Damn!!! When he mentioned wild fires and diseases it gives me chills. It reminds me of Australia and Amazon fire and the Corona outbreak. He is spitting out facts.
And America would rather listen to corporate media and elect another big oil, anti-environmentalist for the Democratic Party. We can't win with either establishment because we're too happy to go down crashing and burning.
Yes he is... And scientists have been doing so for years, decades... but nobody listens because nobody believes that it could possibly happen. Buckle up folks, it's happening.
Its all coming to an end Folks
HELLO. We've been saying this for years and people have only laughed at us. Yes i work in the sustainability business. Idiots bringing snowballs into congress and trump oh my.
If we make it through the next 5 years I'll be surprised but what that type of living will be like...oy. rather go during the first days and not the last.
The food chain is on the edge with Covid. The food that was being grown for this year coming hasn't fared well with the shutdowns.
When he mentions storms that can level cities and blacken out the skies, we're almost there. The last few cyclones here in Asia have been very rough.
Casting Toby was a stroke of brilliance, he's right but I still hate him.
Why?
@@antoniozhang6055 He's great at playing the logical guy that you hate for being logical.
Who cares?
CO2 measurements in Hawaii are now about 420 ppm. Blaze it!
whos back to watch this in 2023 when literally everything they say in this video is actually happening
The truly depressing thing about this show is that the whole point of it was "let's report on the news *people should know*." But Toby was too depressing for them and they never covered climate change ever again in any episode.
I think it’s more of a day accepted the fact We are not going to make it in 100 years if we don’t change
@@Pinkeypierules and we aren't, sadly. We're to lazy and greedy to ever change.
the myth of climate change has been around since the 60s. it used to be called global cooling.
@@firstnamelastname8332 you know what else is a myth? Your brain.
@@Cozmikazi its a sham. read the articles. in the 70s the fear mongers were pushing something called global cooling lmfao you got tricked bro. Literally time magazine published articles about global cooling. then in the 80s and 90s it became global warming. now they just call it climate change since theyve been wrong everytime.
That moment when you’re only about 30% sure if this is a fictional interview or not...
Right?
I was confused af
With the shots of the crew behind the scenes, I'm 100% sure.
It's not fictional! Look it up.
Kurzgesagt has a good video about how the situation is not hopeless
The year is 2023. Southern Brazil is getting a "Cyclone Season", for the first time in our history. Rio de Janeiro got 41°C last weekend. AT THE SAME TIME. Yeah, we're toast.
And people are still saying that it’s all fake or that we’ll magically solve these problems 💀
How long is Brazil's history? How far back do we have weather reports?
@@konroh2 Jeez, seriously?! 🙄🙄
@@DABIGDAWG001 The Incans used to complain about bad weather too. 🙂
This is my single favorite scene from this series. Most point to the opening rant in the first episode, but this is Will McEvoy at his most Will McEvoyest.
"people are starting their weekend.." Hilarious and scary at the same time
I always kind of hated this line because the media has been so scared of scaring the public with this. Let us be scared. Scared people will realize this is a crisis and be spurred on to do something.
@@everygorgeousmoment Sorry to have to inform you but we passed the tipping point a long time ago.
He said that so the guy could save himself. I mean if there is no hope why go on tv? Why work in EPA? The interviewer knew this was bullshit and the guy was delusional.
@@Anarchizer
For fun obviously lmao
@@larapalma3744 Scientific trollin'!
A fictional show, a completely accurate report.
based around real world events. the 400 parts per million of CO2 is real, this was a response to that.
It's pretty exaggerated. We're not gonna die. We're not there yet. But life is gonna get harder.
In truth, it isn't exaggerated. Civilization is hitting the perfect storm of events. These are 1) Peak fossil fuels 2) Resource depletion 3) Climate Change - Unstoppable now as we have hit all the tipping points
There is a finite amount of oil/coal/gas on this planet. In 2015 we hit peak oil, by 2035 both coal and gas will peak as human civilization has an increasing demand, supplies are dropping. Renewable energy is the ONLY means of addressing the energy crisis in the coming decades.
Climate change is unstoppable because we have raised the temperature enough to 1) cause loss of Arctic ice sufficient to make the Arctic an absorber of energy rather than a reflector. This is the albedo effect. This leads to a far worse problem, and that is outgassing of methan from the methane hydrates on the ocean floor. Methane is 17x the greenhouse gas that CO2 is. Essentially we have lit the fuse on a temperature explosion on planet earth. There is nothing that can stop the rise below 6C and scientist believe that 4C is the human extinction point. The problem is that we are in the middle of the 6th great mass extinction. Humanity can not survive without the other species that feed us, that feed the rest of life, that inhabit the oceans. These things are dying. As we it 2, 3, 4 C, the earths biosphere is collapsing and we no longer can prevent it.
It's not exaggerated if climate science (which tends to be dominated by phsyics and astronomy guys and gals) takes biology into account.
Its not exaggerated at all. The wheels have come off now. The events of the last two years paint a clear picture of where we are heading. Your optimism may have been understandable in 2007 or even 2010 but not now. The cunning manipulative psychopaths and their armies of hysterical shrieking retards who have never read a scientific journal in their lives have won. We are now a late stage cancer patient. I see catastrophe in the next ten years if not sooner.
"What if someone comes and opens the door?"
Are we betting on Aliens saving us?
No we can save ourselves. We just won't
If I'd had science teachers like this...I would have paid attention
Damn when he mentioned the wildfires
Cedric Narne I’m in Australia and it definitely hurts to watch this
...and storms.... ask Puerto Rico
Only just begun Sir
I live in bc canada and that couldn't have sounded more realistic
And spread of deadly and infectious diseases. Okay, this a show but Aaron Sorkin does his fucking homework apparently. This gave me chills
I was an ENVI Science major in college and my professor had a guest seminary class. The second guy he brought in was an atmospheric scientist who looked like a nihilistic Jesus who was basically telling us that nothing can be done at this point to fix the world because we’ll never take drastic measures to fix the issue. This was 2014 and my life has only spiraled since then as I see what he was talking about
Please describe spiraled.
Your life spiraled because you listened to a nihilist? Did a hurricane come and knock your house down, or did you fail to take control of your own life and blame it on other things?
@@Nill757 Perhaps he meant that he allowed his life to spiral because of what he said, instead of because he met a nihlist?
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This video is just about to blow up
Canada has been on fire since the spring. Parts of Hawaii are just gone.
3:42 "Who Cares?"....just the way he delivered that line was perfect.
That was very Toby of him
And we are still sitting in the car..
the car have exploded now
The USA urban structure is very much against saving fuel by public transport.
To be fair, according to the analogy, we're already dead!
A better analogy would be a patient with a terminal illness that had a history of ignoring doctors orders
mass migrations?: check
food and water shortages?: check
spread of deadly diseases?: check
endless wildfires?: check
storms that have the power to level cities?: ...
Yh I’m in no rush for that, are you?
@@lanre8311 Obviously we all are in a rush for that considering how we all act - or rather not act
Tornadoes and hurricanes in fact level cities
They should be alarmed
The problem is not that some people decided to sit in the car. . .the problem is that they are making their families, kids aunts, neighbors sit with them after they locked the garage door.
More like, every mom, dad, grandma and grandpa decided to enjoy the AC and the radio, as they'd die naturally before the exhaust built up... But didn't think about their kids and grandkids in the back..
And then got annoyed & angry at them when they started telling them to stop.. Somehow insisting that "turning off the car" is just a ploy the kids have fallen for, to make money (and also to bankrupt the oil & gas industry, who aren't doing anything just to make money, apparently).
(Also, overpopulation is *not* the problem, if that's what you're implying. We could support an even larger population for ages & ages still, if they weren't consuming, producing & wasting as much as Westerners.
Not to mention that 90 some % is from industry, not individuals. We'd be in the clear even if all we did was shut down every US/UK/Canadian company operating all over the world.)
Best lines:
"- There are two things you should know: first, half of the human's population lives within 120 miles of an ocean.
And the other?
- Humans can't breathe under water."
- "There isn't any position on this anymore than there's a position about the temperature at which water boils."
- "Who cares?"
- "if we listen to our scientists, and if we act decisively... I still don't see any way we can survive"
Also the happy "Thanks for having me" at the end
@@lordturtle8735 that made me chuckle
Yes. We heard him the first time. 🙄 What are u, the you tube scribe?
Third fact, people can move inland🤣🤣🤣🤣
I dont understand the first joke that humans dont breathe underwater
"Are you going to get in trouble for saying this?"
reply in a calm way: "who cares?" Love that
"That would have been great."
The deadpan delivery made that line.
Man, remember when the leaders of the EPA believed in science and actually wanted to help the environment? Good times.
Funny, I don't remember that part. I do remember the EPA shutting down companies that employed thousands of people, showed a profit, paid their share of local and federal taxes, contributed to Clean Air/Clean Water programs, built or funded hospitals, medical research and children's charities. We don't have many of those companies left do we?
"Save the Spotted Owl!", "We can but we'd have to destroy a dozen companies that employ 500,000 people." "Fuck em! Let's do this".
Old Man from Scene Twenty Four Which company employing 500k people got shut down just to save owls?
@@smilingkevin You missed the point.
@@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164 No, I got it. But if you have to invent straw men to prove it then the point must has no merit.
@@smilingkevin No you didn't get it, sorry. The point was that the EPA has done more harm than good, which is provable. Much like Greenpeace ramming boats to stop whaling but killing people and causing fuel spills poisoning the water that whales live in. Good intentions but ineffective.
The IPCC report released today basically says this. It is over, the question now is how bad do we let it get.
the report also states that if we stop the damage in time we can reverse it through the planets natural cooling cycle...although it will take time
Sadly enough, that video is from 2014 !! Shame , our ignorance should be our downfall
@@lucksonchandrakumar9656 it’s not our ignorance, it’s our vanity
Bull shit... You've never heard of carbon capture technologies?
@@PershingOfficial Hilarious - "Take Time" - maybe 20 Million years.
OMG. 🤣!!! I’ve only seen two clips of this show and this is F great!!! **side stitches!! My sentiments exactly for the past 20years!!! It’s like the writers were inside my brain. Just amazing!!
An outlook like this is just as effective as denying climate change.
Agreed. The best time to deal with climate change was 30 years ago, the second best time is now.
Theirs always light at the end of the tunnel. Nevermind that light is a oncoming train
Sounds like no leaf clover by metallics
Jeff Daniels is the most underappreciated actor ever.
Hes been hugely popular for decades and has won awards.
USA#1 !! Lol. You’re a douche.
@Kashif Shabbir Respectfully disagree. HIs turn as John Scully in Steve Jobs? The one on one scene with Fassbender was riveting. The guy can do everything.
You mean 2 time Emmy winner, Jeff Daniel's?
Anyone who is able to act, so convincingly, that AGW is a real "crisis" deserves an Oscar.
This scene is like a prequel to Don't Look Up
"Thanks for having me" LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
The Newsroom as a whole is an alright show. But once in awhile, it contains some of the best scenes ever to be put into a show. That was AWESOME.
I absolutely fell in love with that show, haven't felt like that about a show in a long while.
When?
I think it is, perhaps, the best TV show in an hour-long format of the last 20 years.
@@eberkovich when did I ask
@@gregmacfd3 Ooph, no one set you up, huh?
Only Toby Flenderson could ruin everyone’s day in just a few minutes. Dammit toby
Love it!!!!
The way Jeff Daniels throws the pen like "dude wtf" lol
Are you going to get in trouble for saying this? "Who cares!" So dry.
"Mass migration, food and water shortages, deadly diseases, endless wild fires, storms"... Sounds really familiar. 🤔
2020; "Well, of course I know him. He's me!"
@@Cain353 2021 : 2020’s brother but on steroids.
Mass migration encouraged by global leaders, food and water shortages caused by lockdowns, deadly diseases leaked from a lab, wildfires started by men in poorly planned forests. The only one of those we can pin on climate change may be storms, and even that’s questionable.
Science isn’t consensus, it’s a method for find truth. If 99 out of a hundred scientists come to the wrong conclusion, they can’t change fucking reality to make it right.
@@Scatmanseth Ask farmers who are having trouble growing food which is contributing to the food shortages if it’s all bullshit. Perfectly fine for you to not speak on something you clearly aren’t educated about.
@@Scatmanseth Bats were the origin for the disease. Animals spread diseases, nothing new. HIV's probably the prime example.
"You're saying the situation is dire?"
"Not exactly. Uh...Your house is burning to the ground, the situation is dire. Your house has ALREADY burned to the ground, the situation is over."
I should panic or freak out when I hear that, yet oddly enough I'm actually kind of calm instead.
The Newsroom was such a great show. Wish it didn’t end after 2 measly seasons.
The reality freaked too many people out, exactly what this guy was saying.
There were 3 seasons
The end of Man doesn't mean the end of Earth.
This planet will get over us.
It's been floating around for 4.5 billion years.
We are but a single frame in a very, very long film.
But risking the survival of civilization and by consequence our own species, is putting into mortal jeopardy what may be the single emergent moment of conscious self-awareness in the entire universe ever. And while I have no doubt some life could prevail, there is no guarantee the biodiversity which facilitated our own evolution would ever recover to the levels our ancestors witnessed. It is entirely possible life itself was a highly random event in a unforgiving universe of cold black emptiness. Bio, organismic, neurological, emotional, rational, philosophical, social, ethical, intentional complexity might be a one hit wonder, a cosmic lottery that once squandered is beyond remit. And the final telos of our entirety is henceforth ceding inito entropy, decay and heat death at the end of time.
Preach brother
i hate this stupid take who fucking CARES WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS DUMB ROCK HUMANITY WANTS TO SURVIVE
@@tonoornottono well, this ‘dumb rock’ is going to obliterate humanity, and it’s our fault.
“Who cares?”
"There isn't a position on this anymore than there's a position on the temperature at which water boils."
Its kinda sad that this was made 8 years ago and we've made no progress 😅
God damn it Toby, your street such a killer of happiness.
This really is one of the most glorious moments of television like ever. It's just so perfectly written, directed and acted. Massive kudos to Jeff Daniels and **especially** Paul Lieberstein.
What show is this?
Yeah it is a wonderful show of FICTION
@@slappymcslapster8845 No Slappy, the data presented is real data from the real world.
Newsroom - written by Aaron Sorkin (of WestWing fame). Really brilliant show. @@quartneyb9732
I truly, firmly and deeply believe he is correct. It was nice knowing you.
I live in a city that was warned by experts if we didn't take drastic measures in the next ten years then traffic would become completely unmanageable. We're just now rushing to try to meet those standards. Unfortunately that warning came 15 years ago and this city is now in the top 20 nationally and top 100 globally for worst traffic situations. So...
Pffft experts, what do they know??? Covid 19 was going to kill us all, but it only killed 1.1 M Americans.
For all the proponents of free speech in the U.S. this would be labeled as radical. We literally are living in this environment and the majority of people don't care.
Or aren't convinced to undertake the stress of caring
"That would have been great" -- EPIC Line
The hardest to believe part of this is that he said these things and then people looked up with shocked and serious faces.
This is happening because in your core, you still believe that this isn't going to be a problem in your life.
You own a house that you won't be able to sell before retirement in an area that will become uninhabitable due to sea level rise, hurricanes, forest fires, or lack of water.
I do?
Too bad climate change is all bullshit. The earth naturally changes temperature on its own, just look at the ice age. Do you believe we can stop an ice age from happening? Throwing trillions of dollars in the garbage trying to stop mother nature from doing its thing is a fools game
What rubbish
Speak for yourself. I might *live* in a house that I won't be able to sell before retirement in an area that will become uninhabitable, but I sure as hell don't own it
How he breaks of the interview is exactly the reaction you'd expect. "Yeah, don't want to hear it. I regret inviting you."
"There's a lot we could do .... if it were 20 years ago, or even 10 years ago. But now ............... no."
I feel really bad that I laughed my ass off at this.
This video gives me such a peace; it feels so refreshingly honest and direct. I’m not sure how accurate it is, but I guess it feels like closure. Anyone else?
Oh God, I've been struggling to put that funny feeling into words and then I read you saying it "feels like closure" and my soul just slipped out of my body, I can't describe it but you're spot on. It's not the good kind of peace, where you know everything will be okay, but it's not a bad feeling either. Speaking for me, who is 24 and had never been a politician or the CEO of an oil company or some shit, it's arriving very late to the party to discover the house is on fire, but not only is there nothing I can do, there's nothing I could have ever done. It was out of my hands from day one.
Yeah, there's so many looming awful crises (well, mostly just climate, covid, and insidious fascism, but that's still a lot) that we all know are Bad, but we don't really know how bad, or even how to categorize Badness of this scale.
The bleak honesty of "it will be hell on earth, in these specific ways:" is exactly the kind of sentiment many of us spend hours every day both seeking and fleeing from- we want to know how bad it will be, and we also desperately reject that that badness will really come to pass. It is the truth, and it is awful, and it is inescapable. But we all have to get out of bed and put in our time at the wage slavery factory, so inescapable awful truth is not actually a desirable journalistic product. How often do you see the headlines "we fucked up the first few months of Covid and human life might be permanently worsened world-wide as a result" or "the dominant political system of the free world is fundamentally vulnerable to demagoguery and xenophobia and nobody has proposed a serious solution to this"? You might see thinkpieces that suggest things are bad, but objective, empirical statements on the General Shitty State of Things? Nah. Nobody wants to read that. They'd be better off if they did, but they don't.
Fwiw humans are really fucking hard to exterminate. I doubt climate change will drive us extinct. But man oh man will it will make us curse our forefathers' names as we toil in a broken world spoilt by the follies of the dead.
Personally I think we should just go full on Logan's Run with Earth's dwindling carrying capacity. Decent shot of fusion power or brain uploading saving us at the eleventh hour too.
It's accurate.
See, everything is delicately balanced.
When something goes down, it drags Dow other things.
Like dominoes.
Life will not end, but modern civilization will.
well we currently are in the last 10 - 15 ish years where it's possible to do something about it. to change. will it happen? no thanks to capitalism
@Antediluvian Atheist If the new report out of NASA is correct in its findings that 10°C is already baked in, then even a post-apocalyptic dystopia is a best-case scenario
I was just waiting for Michael Scott to barge in yelling "shut up Toby!"
You know Earth is in trouble when they call in HR
the shocked looks from the backroom staff? yeah right. if they heard this they would just shrug. humans have an amazing ability to ignore non immediate threats.
It could be that they are less alarmed by the information than by his honesty.
They normally would like Will was saying 1000 years. They wouldn't care much, but when he said "a person has already been born who will die from catastrophic faluire of the planet." They perked up realising that it will affect them...
I don't think that's true. The people that are genuinely concerned about climate change are the ones that aren't ignorant, greedy and/or simply don't care. The people that don't understand it or mistakenly believe that global annihilation is impossible because "everything has always worked out in the end" would be the ones that shrug.
KhAoz I’d like to hear what you understand about man made climate change.
I mean people don't really care when all you care is just scream and alarm and never give any practical solutions. You just sound like that crazed Jewish prophet who just keeps screaming god shall end you for your insolence!!
"Endless wild fires" Sounds like the West Coast
And australia and most of south American countries
Every year almost like clockwork
Don't forget Australia circa January 2020
@@juanrassis Biden??? Biden isn't doing anything. I don't mind that he'll have a lame duck administration. I'd rather congress and the president pass absolutely nothing. We have enough laws and every time we pass more the rich find the loop holes and get richer and the web of laws just gets more confusing. Better to pass nothing than pass garbage and garbage is the only think congress can come up with.
yes.. and its going spread. Alaska is having fires. Last few years Siberia is having fires. in 2017 BC forest system had 500 fires and it was the most distructive fire in history.
"Thanks for having me! “ Perfect.
Looking at sea temperatures and global temperature average in 2023 and we’re done. We were done a long time ago.
I love how bluntly accurate this is. The general consensus has been “we’re basically fucked”, yet politicians think that it’s a huge hoax. Even when the evidence is all there.
You do realize we are 2 years past the predicted Global Warming Doom? So yah it was all a hoax. What you need 20 more years before you admit it? LOL why don't you just join a cult instead?
@@fenrisulven5324 the embodiment of the entire circus
@@fenrisulven5324 global warming doesn't work like you're thinking. There's not an exact D-day, just little milestones we're hitting and things we can see happening but are choosing to do nothing about like coastal cities going underwater, ice caps melting, increasing temperatures leading to more droughts, etc. Basically if we do jack shit it's going to be "fun" a few decades from now.
@@fenrisulven5324 wildfires. Unprecedented storms. Food shortages.
Bro we are living his prediction
@@100AcreWoodz1 dont forget the disease!
Hilarious, not to mention spot-on and honest.
Ah, sweet sweet 4 years ago. We were so young, so innocent....we still thought there would be life left in the Everglades in 2019!
@@lowkeylikeLoki haha the Corona virus here
@@user-nw1ty9ec7r The corona virus helps the environment!
@@pugsymalone4009 Not so much
@@lowkeylikeLoki Oh sweet 1 year ago
I think of this scene every time the air quality in my area hits another all time low. It can only get so bad before we start dropping…
And this is why he became the Scranton Strangler