@@joshualai2827 He has an emotional attachment, something Jedi are supposed to let go. I can imagine him going off the edge if something happens to her
@@zipperl3 But what happened to Anakin was the fault of the Jedi Order. They are flawed, because they teach the Jedi not to form emotional connections with people, so Jedi are like children when it comes to interpersonal relationships. They can't handle the loss of loved ones because no one ever taught them how to. It's all just repressed and not talked about, until someone inevitably breaks. So Cal is much better off in that regard.
@@hungrydragon9402 yeah, Jedi refusal to deal with such aspects was a great mistake, that caused downfall of many prominent characters. Funny how both Sith and Jedi fail because they go to such extremes with either allowing emotions to rule them, or trying fully be in control of them.
@@nothinghereligma3363 blasters are brutal and basically liquify any surrounding organ and vaporise any blood of the area you were shot so it probably injured quite a lot of his heart and destroyed his blood system around that area its actually really scary to get shot by one as its almost nearly always a death sentence if you get shot above the waist
Knowing how powerful and "scary" merrin is as a night sister, her terror when saying "i will not lose you too" to cal, shows how terrifying and scary the dark side is.
Man despite game have technical issues this story was good. Cal holding Cere and crying brought tears to my eyes. Did anyone else notice a similar feeling when Merrin showed up to save Cal and he was across the platform like Padme was to Anakin? Having Cal Embrace the darkness was a surprise but cool. Cere gave Vader one hell of a fight. I’m very much interested where things go next Greez has become one of my favorites.
@@chancecarlson2023 yeah I agree I thought I’d have seen it coming. I liked Bode and his cause for his daughter but he was ultimately such a as Merrin puts it, a monster. And Cere man.. she gave Vader one hell of a fight for sure.
@@DarkAttackYT Especially the *third* time Cal offered Mercy towards Bode when he had him dead to rights with his blaster. Bode shot first (it malfunctioned because of Cal throwing him onto the ground earlier with the force) and realized that Cal offered Mercy again and he *blew it.* I didn't even notice that until months later, I really love this game.
Bro it was literally INSANE. I didn't watch Shameless, but I have watched Cameron in other projects. I wasn't sure to expect, as many actors in film are not as convincing at voice acting. However, I felt that anger in him, that rise to almost meet the darkness and embrace it. God, I am scared for Cal in the next game but Cameron did such a good job here.
It's DEFINITELY not inevitable. A true warrior is someone who stays on the light side even after having all the excuses in the world to turn to the dark side...
I think Cal is going down the path of the Bendu. There is no light side and no dark side, there is only the force. The dark side can be used for good same way the light side can be used for evil. After all, the line between light and dark is so very thin.
Yeah the Jedi once used booth light and dark and were fine and even taught how to stay in control to the young, but then they started to persecute the dark side users and guess what happened after the guys who use strong emotions and will to shape creation were killed on sight... There applications now used for evil/revenge against those who hated or feared them. Remember that it wasn't called dark side yet and the practitioners using it weren't evil.
It's hard to tell, it's always been vice versa thing... Light defeats dark, dark defeats light, 50/50 win or lose... In Destiny Universe, mostly present dlc, Guardians embrace the dark powers like Stasis and Strand, Elsie says "Stasis are the tools", same as Strand... You can just use both light and dark power than one sided power...
Cal in Fallen Order: Aang Cal in Jedi Survivor: Zuko after his redemption arc. What a transformation, this is my favorite type of character development. 😉
'use it if it's necessary, but doesn't let it control him' If someone is making statements like that, they're already lost, and just lying to themself. There is no 'balancing' the cancer of the force. 'Light side' is a misnomer. There is the Force, and the Dark side of the force.
@@SquidmanMalachar The Force has both Light and Dark, like the Yin and Yang. There is dark in the light and light in the dark. I don't believe there are pure Force users. Even the most powerful used both sides: i.e Revan and Anakin. Balance is the true way of the Force, as it resides in everything, like Life and Death. Only by tapping into both will you know it's true face.
If you mean Merrin, I hope his embrace would last more than a second. Here is the thing. There is a conflict on what is the force. It's based on Taoism, but the dark side is not evil in Taoism, but Lucas wants to create a good vs evil dichotomy. But Lucas did not create Star wars on his own, and some want to keep the force truer to the Taoist beginning. This is why the wisest of the Jedis , Qui Gon Jin wants to bring balance to the force. It's the imbalance of the force that is bad. In Jedi preaching, selfishness is bad. Him saving his friends is being selfish. Also Romantic love is bad, or atleast to the point of marriage. Merrin uses dark side force. I believe the makers are on my interpretation. Neither extreme promotes love, but I believe the mixture of compassion and desire creates something better. I hope Ahsoka would explore more on this, since she left the Jedi
What I really like about this game is that it shows the dark side in all its power through cal, and how it’s so easy to fall for it, and a lot harder to avoid it
I used cyan for most of the game but after after Cere died I switched to purple. Cal being pushed to his breaking point was my favorite part of the game
@Aaron Sanders Because different colored lightsabers mean different things. Kyber crystals are what fuel the lightsabers. The force user is actually chosen by a kyber crystal based on their personality and fighting style. Different colored lightsabers suggest different things about its wielder and so its important to Star Wars fans to pick a color that represents their character and play style.
A lot of people missed this but Cal using the darkside in the final fight saved him twice. First off obviously he was being beaten to a pulp by Bode so he used it to get Bode off of him. If you noticed after Bode is thrown to the ground, his blasters are smoking and shooting sparks. This is then causes the malfunction when Bode fires first. Otherwise Cal would have been shot. So the darkside saved him twice.
If you don't like politicians doing selfish stuff "for the right reasons. If you hate abusive, narcissistic people preaching grey morals to excuse cruel "disepline." If you aren't going to commit atrocities for every time you give to charity, than don't preach grey. You only like the idea bcoz it daring. It's daring to be immoral. You misunderstand Carl Yungs "Shadow" philosophy if you think grey is good. Only those that make excuses for their selfishness or are just too lazy to better themselves lie about morality, perpetuating the "grey morality" argument.
@@ThreadBareHope1234 You want to get down from your soapbox now? It’s nothing so cerebral. Merely recognising the existence of necessary evil in tandem with harsh scenarios. Imperfect worlds with imperfect people have imperfect solutions. Navigating this mire of moral quandary is the best we can do, I quite simply acknowledge the writing for tackling it without excessive naïveté or edge.
I'd put this up there with some of the most intense moments in Star Wars. Cal embracing the dark side and inching closer to turning. I was basically begging Merrin through the screen, "Please, Merrin, bring him back!"
The amount of flexibility in your brain is astounding. Somehow, you've managed to be wrong with a solid argument with literal proof right in front of you. You can do better, we all know you can.
If Cere didn't need the darkside neither will he. If you don't like politicians doing selfish stuff "for the right reasons. If you hate abusive, narcissistic people preaching grey morals to excuse cruel "disepline." If you aren't going to commit atrocities for every time you give to charity, than don't preach grey. The idea bcoz it daring to be immoral, and may as well be. Carl Yungs "Shadow" philosophy is not doing wrong with excuses. Only those that make excuses for their selfishness or are just too lazy to better themselves lie about morality, perpetuating the "grey morality" argument.
@Elaine Chen reminds me.... Cordova is played by Tony Amendola who in "Stargate" played Bra'tac the mentor of Teal'c played by Cristopher Judge who played Kratos. What a coincidence!
"my crew... Cordova.... CERE" even though he isn't, he sounds more in pain than any other character in Star Wars. dude was using force crush I believe, was bouta take him out from the inside out
Its awesome how there's whole comment threads still mad about Vader vs Cere. The fight and ending was epic. Plus its totally in character for Vader to mess around and then get serious once he actually feels threatened. In episode 5 Luke had like no skills in dueling and still hit Vader's shoulder ONLY because Vader was fucking around. Vader's response was to immediatly get serious and not only chop off Luke's arm, but to throw shit at him without ever even using his hands like force users typically have to. Vader was once Anakin, an overpowered and at times cocky kid who spent his whole youth being gassed up over his potential. Anakin lost his arm to Count Duku for the same reason before going full borg. He's still human, despite being more machine now than man, and is still subject to human emotions and flaws.
I had a nostalgic feeling when Bode punches Cal and the screen fades to black with a red vignette with Cal embracing the dark side. It reminds me of God of War 3 with Kratos punching Zeus to death with the screen fading to red only to change until you stop punching him.
This was so insanely cool, this is the first time I’ve seen Cal even come close to someone like Starkiller power. I really hope in the third game we get a Dark Side Skill tree. Like i don’t even want him to go full sith but like maybe grey Jedi? Like someone who uses both sides of the force would be really cool. The dark side skill tree could hold things like force lightning, force Rage, Force choke, maybe even some legend of abilities like force fire.
People are talking about how Merrin is bad for Cal (as an emotional attachment) yet the dogmatic view of the Jedi kept them from remembering that they originally HAD emotional attachments with people, which in turn made them stronger…. Kreia taught this to Meetra, who then taught the Order to embrace their attachments.
I sat on that "embrace your darkness" screen for a solid minute. I did not want Cal to win that way. Hated that the darkness was usable for the post game.
I love when character lightside turn darkside then lightside again. They the one who understand both sides and embrace it, they walk the grayest part of light. We know in the future cal able to resist the darkside.
Gray is bad. One should walk in the light. If one succumbs to the dark for a moment, then they must work that much harder in the future to resist the dark side. If one resists the dark side, that would make them a lightsider, not gray.
I doubt that Cal can be described as someone who walks grey path. Yeah, he slip up toward darkness because of the emotions, but he never embraced darkness. Someone like Revan would be a better example of that, considering he fully accepted dark side at certain point.
@@DiogoJ1 When i play KOTOR 1 and KOTOR sith lords, my character meet the 2 masters that is in grayest side of force. They both experience what it feels on both sides. JOLEE balance himself able to use destructive power without losing himself to other side and Kreia just wanted my character to understand both side to create a something new path a neither light or dark involve. thats my understanding of it.
@@novanexus9112 I ignore their lessons, for it's all hogwash to me. Always stick with the light, as being in the light at max even gives you bonuses. And as a result, Jolee isn't powerful in either side, just more versatile. Kreia on the other hand, never stopped being part of the dark side, which is why she's strong. A sudden change of perspective, wouldn't suddendly make her not dark sided, nor forget all the strength she already had. Kreia was also crazy. One must choose one or the other, there is no point in creating a path that is neither. One must stick with one and accept the positives and negatives that come with it.
@@troller8680 Indeed, and for his troubles, Raven's spirit split into two, further proving that walking both paths at the same time is just not pratical.
I always hated that the dark side and light side are portrayed as absolutes. I want another starkiller that embraces the dark side while not fully falling to it
Yeah, it always struck me as ironic that Obi-Wan says "Only a Sith deals in absolutes!" when you consider how rigid and unbending the teachings of the Jedi Order are, lol. I like when narratives lean towards balance being a viable path, like in Jedi Knight - Jedi Academy, Kyle Katarn actually compliments your character if you've put an even amount of skill points in both light side and dark side powers.
I really enjoyed how Luke in Legends would use stuff like Lightning, because he rightly viewed force abilities as tools without inherent good or evil. I miss that
I really hope the third game takes full advantage of this moment. With Cal slipping further and further into becoming just like Bobe. Would be an interesting change to see that play out over the course of the game.
I hope we get a 3rd Jedi game but it's uncertain. It would be cool to see Cal fully turning to the dark side but i know that there'll be a portion of people that won't like the change
It'd be cool to see Cal go further to the dark side but only if we can still play as him. I have a feeling they'll have Cal become a Sith after Merrin dies and make us play as Bodes daughter to stop him. I'd rather not have to play as Kata.
Cal gave him one last chance, and he tried to murder both Merrin and himself. Even went so far as to use the Force on his little girl. When he pulled the trigger and the blaster clicked, Cal knew there was zero chance in trusting Bode ever again. He'd constantly try and kill them if given the chance, so he shot him. Then, he shot him again to make sure he was dead. Double Tap: For when you absolutely, positively NEED the target to die.
Merrin slaughtering dozens of conscripted imperials: 😎 Merrin while Cal slaughters even more: 😍 Merrin when Cal has the guy responsible for all of it at his mercy: “tHiS iS NoT yOu!!!”
Long Winded comment: Anyone saying you can’t have a dedicated jedi who somewhat mingles with the dark side obviously forgot Mace Windu. Because his lightsaber color and style came to symbolize that very thing across Star Wars cannon. Yes IRL Sam Jackson just wanted a purple saber but you know what I mean. It spurred an entire section of lore about how his fighting style puts him on the bleeding edge of the light/dark line which is why his (and one of Revans in KOTR) saber is purple, the mix of traditional “light” and “dark” saber colors. That in Windu’s case you can be “on the line” and still be for the “good guys”. Cere herself last game succumbed at multiple points to bouts of struggle with the dark side. It didn’t make her evil, it was something she learned to control. Not only that, but I was hyped to see Cal coming into the “grey jedi” thing. Finding love with Merrin being a big one, and something I hope the story writers really expand on if we get another game. I’m personally a fan. And I hope they do it much like this game. With natural feeling interactions, a good connection and *gasp* healthy qualities in the couple. For once let us have a healthy, “good for each other” Star Wars power couple. An example of the good qualities is when Merrin snapped Cal back with the imperial officer. Cal actually *listens* to her and the people who are good for him when they realize he’s going off course. He winds himself in. But it was also good having those “dips” into the dark but knowing how to come back, and having the real strength to listen to a vibe check. Anger is a healthy emotion to have after your very close friends where just butchered by the actions of a backstabbing, selfish asshole. Again, it’s not wrong that he’s angry, it’s learning how to handle said anger in healthy ways, often times with the help of loved ones. The scenes like the imperial guy about to catch a saber and Merrin talking Cal down show that. It’s something I’m sure a lot of fuckin dudes out there can understand in our real life, just to a less dramatic degree obviously. Anger about something awful isn’t bad. Aggression to protect yourself or loved ones is NOT bad. (Cal breaking Bode’s pummeling to get back in the fight, or Cal breaking the headlock to stop Merrin from choking) It’s when you let it make brash/harmful decisions for you when it becomes bad. Personally I’m in the camp that if anakin was trained by Qui Gon and if the Jedi weren’t so insanely stringent on the “no connections” thing, anakin would have been the ultimate “Grey Jedi” while having a family with Padme. He would have brought “true balance” to the force. Sometimes I like to think the sith v jedi issue is one of fictions best ways to show how to handle emotions as an adult with both main “sides” getting this woefully wrong: It’s not about having little to no emotions or romantic connections with the ones important to you (Jedi) It’s not about letting emotions/personal ambitions control you and your choices to the point you push away or hurt the very ones you wanted to protect (Sith) What it is about is having the emotions and connections in a healthy and controlled way to make yourself a more complete person, and in the world of Star Wars, make yourself truly one with the force (Grey Jedi like Ashoka and I hope, Cal Kestis) A great example of this is how Jolee Bindo describes it in KOTR.
Hear me out here. This game IS A MASTERPIECE, I would even go as far as to say it is one of the best Star Wars games I have ever played. That being said, I am happy with the ending the way it is, but i am just so curious. What if Cere lived and survived the incident in the archieve, and instead, when Bode is fighting Cal and merin on Tanaloor, Bode killed Merrin, turning Cal to the darkside. Cal then kills Bode in a fit of rage over Merrins' death and is only turned back to the light because of Cere and Greez. Dont get me wrong, Cere's death was executed beautifully, but what if. What do you guys think?
Game's great, it's just that it's borderline unplayable because no one seems to be able to make a complete game at launch other than fucking Indie Developers.
@Godzilla Kaiju boy what do you mean. That must just be a personal issue, dude. I had 100% no issues, i think the game only crashed once throughout the time I played it, my froends have said the same.
Here's the thing the dark side isn't bad it depends on how you use it and while it can corrupt people that's mainly because those people didn't have enough will power to resist it's effects
Well, I think it's different when you just tap into it for a short amount of time. I think the Force by default enhances and is enhanced by a Force User's stronger emotions. It's an unending loop if you don't gain control, hence why turning to the Dark Side warps you because you tap into those darker emotions so often and it changes you.
If you don't like politicians doing selfish stuff "for the right reasons. If you hate abusive, narcissistic people preaching grey morals to excuse cruel "disepline." If you aren't going to commit atrocities for every time you give to charity, than don't preach grey. The idea bcoz it daring to be immoral, and may as well be. Carl Yungs "Shadow" philosophy is not doing wrong with excuses. Only those that make excuses for their selfishness or are just too lazy to better themselves lie about morality, perpetuating the "grey morality" argument.
Sometimes when others intend to do you harm, you must embrace your inner dark side to keep you safe. Not necessarily to strike back at them in retaliation, but to lessen the harm they can do to you.
On second watch, when Merrin says “who is this” yes she’s asking Cal who Devkin was but i feel like since it was rhe first time she had seen Cal embrace the dark side she was asking who he was too
"Dark Side and Light Side abilities are neither good nor evil, it's how you use them!" - "Battlemaster" Kyle Katarn to Jaden Korr and Rosh Penin in Star Wars: Jedi Knight III: Jedi Academy
What? Bro, if you don't like politicians doing selfish stuff "for the right reasons. If you hate abusive, narcissistic people preaching grey morals to excuse cruel "disepline." If you aren't going to commit atrocities for every time you give to charity, than don't preach grey. You only like the idea bcoz it daring. It's daring to be immoral. You misunderstand Carl Yungs "Shadow" philosophy if you think grey is good. Only those that make excuses for their selfishness or are just too lazy to better themselves lie about morality, perpetuating the "grey morality" argument.
@@ThreadBareHope1234 My brother in Christ, what? The force is the raw magic energy in lore. The Jedis have a self-imposed cap on power. Their whole thing is about being detached and robotically adhere to rules for "The Greater Good". Dark siders also tend to believe that they have the answer for achieving their version of "The Greater Good." Both believe in a "Better World" but have differing views on the ultimate utilitarian justifications. If you just stop capping your growth in the force and path to possible God-Hood, then you basically by default take the path of the "dark side." According to the Jedi, even having a girlfriend that you love is a step onto the path of darkness. Doesn't really matter much, since once you actually become a Force God, it's all the same to you and the scale of atrocities is miniscule compared to control over entire cosmic events. Falling to the dark side is basically inevitable for anyone not willing to adhere to a solid power cap.
I think what drives good men mad is the fighting will never stop. That depravity and chaos are immortal. But I want you to know that you make a difference, if you can love one person you made a difference. I want you to know that. Keep fighting.
@@meruthesuccubus3416 well, i can't comment on that because there are some truth in your words. I'm going to quote from commenters that force are just primordial energy flow which are neither good nor evil, it's just is. It's the heart of the wielder who justify which is which.
I like the idea that the light and dark side of the force are dogmatic concepts and a more holistic approach to the force is the healthier option, you're not suddenly "embracing the darkness" when you're upset, you're human.
It's one thing to accept mistakes and moments of weakness as human, but try not to misread eastern religions as not separating moral and immortal. If you don't like politicians doing selfish stuff "for the right reasons. If you hate abusive, narcissistic people preaching grey morals to excuse cruel "disepline." If you aren't going to commit atrocities for every time you give to charity, than don't preach grey. The idea bcoz it daring to be immoral, and may as well be. Carl Yungs "Shadow" philosophy is not doing wrong with excuses. Only those that make excuses for their selfishness or are too lazy to better themselves lie about morality, perpetuating the "grey morality" argument.
@@ThreadBareHope1234 I think you've extrapolated further than I meant. Especially RE: Eastern Religion. My point is more just that I have an issue with the way they write characters being upset within the star wars universe. Any anger is always treated as like teetering on the edge of being lost completely to the dark side, Lightning isn't inherently more evil than killing someone with a laser but the writers use it as like narrative shorthand for being bad. I just think it's lazy to not engage with gray morality a little more in a setting like star wars and it's refreshing to see it being done more recently.
After cal lifts him with the force you can see Bode’s pistol on the ground damage which is probably why it failed to fire later, the small details matter
Not a good sign seeing as how Merrin how to be there to convince him not to kill the guy. Next time Merrin won't be there or dead and he's going to lose it.
Kind of an outstanding circumstance, that guy ordered the death of literally everyone close to Cal that has died in the game up to that point. The ONE GUY who is responsible for everyone you lost doesn't exactly grow on trees. Sure, if it happened again, he might lose it. Kind of a big if, Brother is running out of people to lose.
Nice little touch noticing that Denvik says “Rather you than Lord Vader.” Later when you return here in a free roam, you find the force echo at his chair, revealing that Vader did indeed kill him.
I knew before playing Cal would have some kind of Dark side change. The scene from fallen order where Cal has an Inquisitor suit and a red Saber was a dead give away. Even though I was expecting it, it was still done well
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Cal walking that fine line
Now that he and Merrin are a thing the risk is much greater
Why?
@@joshualai2827he runs the risk of turning to the dark side with a connection like Merrin. Basically what anakin did
@@joshualai2827 He has an emotional attachment, something Jedi are supposed to let go. I can imagine him going off the edge if something happens to her
@@zipperl3 But what happened to Anakin was the fault of the Jedi Order. They are flawed, because they teach the Jedi not to form emotional connections with people, so Jedi are like children when it comes to interpersonal relationships. They can't handle the loss of loved ones because no one ever taught them how to. It's all just repressed and not talked about, until someone inevitably breaks.
So Cal is much better off in that regard.
@@hungrydragon9402 yeah, Jedi refusal to deal with such aspects was a great mistake, that caused downfall of many prominent characters. Funny how both Sith and Jedi fail because they go to such extremes with either allowing emotions to rule them, or trying fully be in control of them.
Everyone has their dark moments. It’s the ability to pull yourself back that defines you.
Sounds like some fortune cookie Panda Express lmao 😂
Not in star wars. As yoda said. Learn to let go what you fear to loose. We all become one with the force. Let go
Or embrace it and feel true power
I embrace yo mama
Luke in EP6
i love the fear on bodes face as soon as he realised he was going to die and this is how his daughter would remember him
One detail is that Bode didn't hesitate to shoot Cal at all, only for his blaster to jam. And when Cal double-tapped him, it was a mercy kill.
@@korawitbuttramee618 did it jam? I thought cal crushed em both with the force.
How did he die? He didn't get shot in the heart. He got shot on his upper right shoulder
@@nothinghereligma3363 blasters are brutal and basically liquify any surrounding organ and vaporise any blood of the area you were shot so it probably injured quite a lot of his heart and destroyed his blood system around that area its actually really scary to get shot by one as its almost nearly always a death sentence if you get shot above the waist
@@nothinghereligma3363 Then Cal shot him again in the chest
Knowing how powerful and "scary" merrin is as a night sister, her terror when saying "i will not lose you too" to cal, shows how terrifying and scary the dark side is.
Facts
She knew the dark side too well
the way the nightsisters use the darkside is way different than the sith
Man despite game have technical issues this story was good. Cal holding Cere and crying brought tears to my eyes. Did anyone else notice a similar feeling when Merrin showed up to save Cal and he was across the platform like Padme was to Anakin? Having Cal Embrace the darkness was a surprise but cool. Cere gave Vader one hell of a fight. I’m very much interested where things go next Greez has become one of my favorites.
Story was really good. Wonder what they’re gonna do with talanoor? And I’m surprised that cal is not a Jedi anymore I didn’t see that coming
Dagan Gera was actually an interesting character, someone with his objetives could be used in the Next movies, after Last trilogy
You actually cried from this game? Did you also cry from the rise of Skywalker trailer?
Yeah the jedi survivor being bode the whole time was a plot twist wasn't expecting that at all
@@chancecarlson2023 yeah I agree I thought I’d have seen it coming. I liked Bode and his cause for his daughter but he was ultimately such a as Merrin puts it, a monster. And Cere man.. she gave Vader one hell of a fight for sure.
the fact Bode force pushed his daughter shows how far gone he was
And all he wanted was a better life for his daughter. The dark side blinded him.
Similar to Anakin choking Padme. And all bcoz she didn’t like what he's become
And this is why Cal made the right choice to kill him. He gave him all the chances of redemption and Bode rejected all of them.
@@DarkAttackYT Especially the *third* time Cal offered Mercy towards Bode when he had him dead to rights with his blaster. Bode shot first (it malfunctioned because of Cal throwing him onto the ground earlier with the force) and realized that Cal offered Mercy again and he *blew it.*
I didn't even notice that until months later, I really love this game.
2:17 The way he said "Cere" was insane. Top notch voice acting right there.
Bro it was literally INSANE. I didn't watch Shameless, but I have watched Cameron in other projects. I wasn't sure to expect, as many actors in film are not as convincing at voice acting. However, I felt that anger in him, that rise to almost meet the darkness and embrace it. God, I am scared for Cal in the next game but Cameron did such a good job here.
Cameron let his inner Joker go out for a sec 😂
Love this kind of character development in star wars. Shows the dark side is pretty much inevitable, hence why it is so much more destructive
It's DEFINITELY not inevitable. A true warrior is someone who stays on the light side even after having all the excuses in the world to turn to the dark side...
@@TheAmazingHoho576 A true warrior learns to embrace BOTH the dark and the light. Balance is the only way.
@@ArgonTH-cam Disagree. Darkness is evil and should never be touched. Hate, rape, revenge, etc only leads to violence and self-suffering
revan managed to find a balance between the two which is why he was so damn powerful
The dark side is the emotional side. To deny one’s emotions is like denying one hemisphere of your brain
I genuinely like how in the cutscenes Cal and Merrin work together both mentally and in a fight, gives off just how much they mean to each other.
I think Cal is going down the path of the Bendu. There is no light side and no dark side, there is only the force. The dark side can be used for good same way the light side can be used for evil. After all, the line between light and dark is so very thin.
Yeah the Jedi once used booth light and dark and were fine and even taught how to stay in control to the young, but then they started to persecute the dark side users and guess what happened after the guys who use strong emotions and will to shape creation were killed on sight...
There applications now used for evil/revenge against those who hated or feared them.
Remember that it wasn't called dark side yet and the practitioners using it weren't evil.
I understood that reference
Yep, dark and light are neutral
Uldren
It's hard to tell, it's always been vice versa thing... Light defeats dark, dark defeats light, 50/50 win or lose... In Destiny Universe, mostly present dlc, Guardians embrace the dark powers like Stasis and Strand, Elsie says "Stasis are the tools", same as Strand... You can just use both light and dark power than one sided power...
The dark side of the force is pathway to many abilities that some would consider to be unnatural.
Is It Possible To Learn This Power ?
@@deagostinochanell9344 Not from a Jedi..
@susknight9410gray jedis are not cannon. In canon a grey Jedi would be a police officer who arrests cartel mobs and rapes on the side.
2:10 this sequence is awesome. So much emotion in the way he mourns for Cere
As soon as he pulled that trigger he knew he was fucked
Cal shoots: "One for me, one for the others."
Just gonna point out that was Force Crush, not Force Choke. Cal was about to implode this man.
Merrin talking Cal out of killinh Denvik was such a powerful scene. This game really ramped up at the end.
Cal in Fallen Order: Aang
Cal in Jedi Survivor: Zuko after his redemption arc.
What a transformation, this is my favorite type of character development. 😉
Third game he will get an apprentice in Kata
I like how he pretty much has his own spartan rage, he’ll use the dark side if necessary, but he doesn’t let it control him
L3+R3 moment
And also just like Jin Sakai's Ghost Stance in Ghost of Tsushima.
'use it if it's necessary, but doesn't let it control him'
If someone is making statements like that, they're already lost, and just lying to themself.
There is no 'balancing' the cancer of the force.
'Light side' is a misnomer. There is the Force, and the Dark side of the force.
@@SquidmanMalachar Thank you
@@SquidmanMalachar The Force has both Light and Dark, like the Yin and Yang. There is dark in the light and light in the dark. I don't believe there are pure Force users. Even the most powerful used both sides: i.e Revan and Anakin. Balance is the true way of the Force, as it resides in everything, like Life and Death. Only by tapping into both will you know it's true face.
“Rather you than lord Vader”
Cal: Very poor choice of words (begins force choking)
There is nothing wrong with Jedi's embracing the dark side for 1 sec to save their friends. They can just turn back after they save their friends lol
If you mean Merrin, I hope his embrace would last more than a second.
Here is the thing. There is a conflict on what is the force. It's based on Taoism, but the dark side is not evil in Taoism, but Lucas wants to create a good vs evil dichotomy. But Lucas did not create Star wars on his own, and some want to keep the force truer to the Taoist beginning. This is why the wisest of the Jedis , Qui Gon Jin wants to bring balance to the force. It's the imbalance of the force that is bad.
In Jedi preaching, selfishness is bad. Him saving his friends is being selfish.
Also Romantic love is bad, or atleast to the point of marriage.
Merrin uses dark side force. I believe the makers are on my interpretation. Neither extreme promotes love, but I believe the mixture of compassion and desire creates something better. I hope Ahsoka would explore more on this, since she left the Jedi
@@slewone4905 But it's not Taoism, and in the end, the light should be the prevailing force.
Problem starts, when they embrace it too much and lose control.
Completely wrong. Jedi learn to let go what they fear to loose. We all become one with the force
@@DiogoJ1No, since there will still be an imbalance, light should not predominate as well as darkness
What I really like about this game is that it shows the dark side in all its power through cal, and how it’s so easy to fall for it, and a lot harder to avoid it
Cal should have a purple blade
It fits him with the fact he embraces both sides
good thing i changed my blade colour right at the start
Samuel Jackson: Ya welcome Muthaf$&#*!
I used cyan for most of the game but after after Cere died I switched to purple. Cal being pushed to his breaking point was my favorite part of the game
@Aaron Sanders Because different colored lightsabers mean different things. Kyber crystals are what fuel the lightsabers. The force user is actually chosen by a kyber crystal based on their personality and fighting style. Different colored lightsabers suggest different things about its wielder and so its important to Star Wars fans to pick a color that represents their character and play style.
I used Indigo blade after killing Dagan.
A lot of people missed this but Cal using the darkside in the final fight saved him twice. First off obviously he was being beaten to a pulp by Bode so he used it to get Bode off of him. If you noticed after Bode is thrown to the ground, his blasters are smoking and shooting sparks. This is then causes the malfunction when Bode fires first. Otherwise Cal would have been shot. So the darkside saved him twice.
And...
*"CERE!!"* A round of applause for Cameron's performance, I felt that in my bones! 👏🏽👏🏽
2:22 the voice acting is just 🤌🏽🤌🏽🤌🏽
bravo to the team this is why we love star wars .
I’m so blessed I experienced zero technical difficulties my whole 38 hour play through😁
I admire the more nuanced take on balance.
That in dark times, the dark is a necessary tool, one that should be used as a last resort with restraint.
If you don't like politicians doing selfish stuff "for the right reasons. If you hate abusive, narcissistic people preaching grey morals to excuse cruel "disepline." If you aren't going to commit atrocities for every time you give to charity, than don't preach grey. You only like the idea bcoz it daring. It's daring to be immoral.
You misunderstand Carl Yungs "Shadow" philosophy if you think grey is good.
Only those that make excuses for their selfishness or are just too lazy to better themselves lie about morality, perpetuating the "grey morality" argument.
@@ThreadBareHope1234
You want to get down from your soapbox now?
It’s nothing so cerebral. Merely recognising the existence of necessary evil in tandem with harsh scenarios. Imperfect worlds with imperfect people have imperfect solutions. Navigating this mire of moral quandary is the best we can do, I quite simply acknowledge the writing for tackling it without excessive naïveté or edge.
Me spamming the dark side against any enemies that give me even the slightest trouble: yep, last resort, totally... 👀
I'd put this up there with some of the most intense moments in Star Wars. Cal embracing the dark side and inching closer to turning. I was basically begging Merrin through the screen, "Please, Merrin, bring him back!"
“You turned her against me?!”
“You have done that yourself!”
When I hear characters mentioning bringing balance to the force, I usually imagined something like this.
scary to think cal has anakins drive and passion to save the one he loves but for him there is no palpatine around so Hes lucky
Except the bloody guy Palpatine manipulated himself AKA Vader.
Embracing the dark side, is far different than being consumed by the dark side.
He didn't embrace the dark side!! He just killed an enemy combatant. That's self-defense, not malice
Jedi code probably 21
Don't kill an unarmed person. Nobody actually cares about that rule though.
It literally says “embrace the darkness” on screen as cal goes into a rage. What are you talking about
He used hatred to succeed.
The screen literally put "embrace the darkness"
The amount of flexibility in your brain is astounding. Somehow, you've managed to be wrong with a solid argument with literal proof right in front of you. You can do better, we all know you can.
Dagan monologuing as Cal is open for the killing blow is fucking hilarious tbh. Like bro finish him 😂 so extra
I think its pretty obvious Cal is going to become a grey jedi
Instead of choking people, Cal just crushes their internal organs.
This dude is supposed to be a Jedi.
3:32 U can Bode drew his blaster and was ready to shoot Merrin even when she was protecting Kata. He’s really lost his way.
This is all happens because he didn't get his damn PONCHO
fun fact, the last cutscene with denvik is the *only* cutscene, on PS5 at least, that is 60fps for a small amount of time
The dark side is like a gun it can be used for good or bad depending on the person
@Azuri e wrong the light and dark side or simply tools, its how you use them that defines your balance, queue Darth Revan
And just like guns, it's used mostly for evil than good.
If Cere didn't need the darkside neither will he.
If you don't like politicians doing selfish stuff "for the right reasons. If you hate abusive, narcissistic people preaching grey morals to excuse cruel "disepline." If you aren't going to commit atrocities for every time you give to charity, than don't preach grey. The idea bcoz it daring to be immoral, and may as well be. Carl Yungs "Shadow" philosophy is not doing wrong with excuses.
Only those that make excuses for their selfishness or are just too lazy to better themselves lie about morality, perpetuating the "grey morality" argument.
3:55 Cal! Show me the Rage!
(L3 + R3)
Cal: RRRAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Kratos would be proud…
@Elaine Chen reminds me....
Cordova is played by Tony Amendola who in "Stargate" played Bra'tac the mentor of Teal'c played by Cristopher Judge who played Kratos.
What a coincidence!
Oh dang, that’s actually pretty cool!
"my crew... Cordova.... CERE"
even though he isn't, he sounds more in pain than any other character in Star Wars. dude was using force crush I believe, was bouta take him out from the inside out
Its awesome how there's whole comment threads still mad about Vader vs Cere. The fight and ending was epic. Plus its totally in character for Vader to mess around and then get serious once he actually feels threatened. In episode 5 Luke had like no skills in dueling and still hit Vader's shoulder ONLY because Vader was fucking around. Vader's response was to immediatly get serious and not only chop off Luke's arm, but to throw shit at him without ever even using his hands like force users typically have to. Vader was once Anakin, an overpowered and at times cocky kid who spent his whole youth being gassed up over his potential. Anakin lost his arm to Count Duku for the same reason before going full borg. He's still human, despite being more machine now than man, and is still subject to human emotions and flaws.
I had a nostalgic feeling when Bode punches Cal and the screen fades to black with a red vignette with Cal embracing the dark side. It reminds me of God of War 3 with Kratos punching Zeus to death with the screen fading to red only to change until you stop punching him.
This was so insanely cool, this is the first time I’ve seen Cal even come close to someone like Starkiller power. I really hope in the third game we get a Dark Side Skill tree. Like i don’t even want him to go full sith but like maybe grey Jedi? Like someone who uses both sides of the force would be really cool. The dark side skill tree could hold things like force lightning, force Rage, Force choke, maybe even some legend of abilities like force fire.
Starkiller power ? Are you crazy? The power shown here is like a 1/65 part of the power starkiller has... cal is as much an average jedi
@@user-yy5yw9nw9e Cal isn't average Jedi,he's much above of that but Starkiller is like a thousand Jedi's level,so you're right
Merrin is Cal’s Anchor. As long as he has Merrin. Cal won’t be turned to the dark side of the force.
People are talking about how Merrin is bad for Cal (as an emotional attachment) yet the dogmatic view of the Jedi kept them from remembering that they originally HAD emotional attachments with people, which in turn made them stronger…. Kreia taught this to Meetra, who then taught the Order to embrace their attachments.
"Love will save you, not condemn you."
That was pretty much the whole point of Return of the Jedi.
I sat on that "embrace your darkness" screen for a solid minute. I did not want Cal to win that way.
Hated that the darkness was usable for the post game.
Honestly loved the small details, like the wheeze when Bode gets shot. Instead of just a cheezy insta dead flop.
I love when character lightside turn darkside then lightside again. They the one who understand both sides and embrace it, they walk the grayest part of light. We know in the future cal able to resist the darkside.
Gray is bad. One should walk in the light. If one succumbs to the dark for a moment, then they must work that much harder in the future to resist the dark side.
If one resists the dark side, that would make them a lightsider, not gray.
I doubt that Cal can be described as someone who walks grey path. Yeah, he slip up toward darkness because of the emotions, but he never embraced darkness. Someone like Revan would be a better example of that, considering he fully accepted dark side at certain point.
@@DiogoJ1 When i play KOTOR 1 and KOTOR sith lords, my character meet the 2 masters that is in grayest side of force. They both experience what it feels on both sides. JOLEE balance himself able to use destructive power without losing himself to other side and Kreia just wanted my character to understand both side to create a something new path a neither light or dark involve. thats my understanding of it.
@@novanexus9112 I ignore their lessons, for it's all hogwash to me. Always stick with the light, as being in the light at max even gives you bonuses.
And as a result, Jolee isn't powerful in either side, just more versatile. Kreia on the other hand, never stopped being part of the dark side, which is why she's strong. A sudden change of perspective, wouldn't suddendly make her not dark sided, nor forget all the strength she already had.
Kreia was also crazy. One must choose one or the other, there is no point in creating a path that is neither. One must stick with one and accept the positives and negatives that come with it.
@@troller8680 Indeed, and for his troubles, Raven's spirit split into two, further proving that walking both paths at the same time is just not pratical.
I always hated that the dark side and light side are portrayed as absolutes. I want another starkiller that embraces the dark side while not fully falling to it
Yeah, it always struck me as ironic that Obi-Wan says "Only a Sith deals in absolutes!" when you consider how rigid and unbending the teachings of the Jedi Order are, lol. I like when narratives lean towards balance being a viable path, like in Jedi Knight - Jedi Academy, Kyle Katarn actually compliments your character if you've put an even amount of skill points in both light side and dark side powers.
I really enjoyed how Luke in Legends would use stuff like Lightning, because he rightly viewed force abilities as tools without inherent good or evil. I miss that
Thats becuase he was thee last known primal force user. Besides a couple other people before him.
That's because the force is a literal absolute, a metaphysical concept that incarnates in the everyday.
@@boat1280 Unlike the joke in Disney "Canon"
I really hope the third game takes full advantage of this moment. With Cal slipping further and further into becoming just like Bobe. Would be an interesting change to see that play out over the course of the game.
I hope we get a 3rd Jedi game but it's uncertain. It would be cool to see Cal fully turning to the dark side but i know that there'll be a portion of people that won't like the change
@@Kagetora-actually the director does plan for this to be a trilogy. So a third game is probably on the way.
Imagine customizable Force Power loadouts similar to Survivor's stance loadouts. You could map buttons to light or dark abilities
@@disneyboy3030 Definitely on the way.
It'd be cool to see Cal go further to the dark side but only if we can still play as him. I have a feeling they'll have Cal become a Sith after Merrin dies and make us play as Bodes daughter to stop him. I'd rather not have to play as Kata.
Cal gave him one last chance, and he tried to murder both Merrin and himself. Even went so far as to use the Force on his little girl. When he pulled the trigger and the blaster clicked, Cal knew there was zero chance in trusting Bode ever again. He'd constantly try and kill them if given the chance, so he shot him. Then, he shot him again to make sure he was dead. Double Tap: For when you absolutely, positively NEED the target to die.
Merrin slaughtering dozens of conscripted imperials: 😎
Merrin while Cal slaughters even more: 😍
Merrin when Cal has the guy responsible for all of it at his mercy: “tHiS iS NoT yOu!!!”
Long Winded comment:
Anyone saying you can’t have a dedicated jedi who somewhat mingles with the dark side obviously forgot Mace Windu. Because his lightsaber color and style came to symbolize that very thing across Star Wars cannon. Yes IRL Sam Jackson just wanted a purple saber but you know what I mean. It spurred an entire section of lore about how his fighting style puts him on the bleeding edge of the light/dark line which is why his (and one of Revans in KOTR) saber is purple, the mix of traditional “light” and “dark” saber colors. That in Windu’s case you can be “on the line” and still be for the “good guys”. Cere herself last game succumbed at multiple points to bouts of struggle with the dark side. It didn’t make her evil, it was something she learned to control.
Not only that, but I was hyped to see Cal coming into the “grey jedi” thing. Finding love with Merrin being a big one, and something I hope the story writers really expand on if we get another game. I’m personally a fan. And I hope they do it much like this game. With natural feeling interactions, a good connection and *gasp* healthy qualities in the couple. For once let us have a healthy, “good for each other” Star Wars power couple. An example of the good qualities is when Merrin snapped Cal back with the imperial officer. Cal actually *listens* to her and the people who are good for him when they realize he’s going off course. He winds himself in.
But it was also good having those “dips” into the dark but knowing how to come back, and having the real strength to listen to a vibe check.
Anger is a healthy emotion to have after your very close friends where just butchered by the actions of a backstabbing, selfish asshole.
Again, it’s not wrong that he’s angry, it’s learning how to handle said anger in healthy ways, often times with the help of loved ones. The scenes like the imperial guy about to catch a saber and Merrin talking Cal down show that.
It’s something I’m sure a lot of fuckin dudes out there can understand in our real life, just to a less dramatic degree obviously. Anger about something awful isn’t bad. Aggression to protect yourself or loved ones is NOT bad. (Cal breaking Bode’s pummeling to get back in the fight, or Cal breaking the headlock to stop Merrin from choking)
It’s when you let it make brash/harmful decisions for you when it becomes bad.
Personally I’m in the camp that if anakin was trained by Qui Gon and if the Jedi weren’t so insanely stringent on the “no connections” thing, anakin would have been the ultimate “Grey Jedi” while having a family with Padme. He would have brought “true balance” to the force.
Sometimes I like to think the sith v jedi issue is one of fictions best ways to show how to handle emotions as an adult with both main “sides” getting this woefully wrong:
It’s not about having little to no emotions or romantic connections with the ones important to you (Jedi)
It’s not about letting emotions/personal ambitions control you and your choices to the point you push away or hurt the very ones you wanted to protect (Sith)
What it is about is having the emotions and connections in a healthy and controlled way to make yourself a more complete person, and in the world of Star Wars, make yourself truly one with the force (Grey Jedi like Ashoka and I hope, Cal Kestis)
A great example of this is how Jolee Bindo describes it in KOTR.
Windu’s fighting style taps into the dark side. It’s how he defeated Palpatine so easily. Palps wasn’t expecting it from a Jedi
Everyone has their breaking point, even a Jedi.
Hear me out here. This game IS A MASTERPIECE, I would even go as far as to say it is one of the best Star Wars games I have ever played. That being said, I am happy with the ending the way it is, but i am just so curious. What if Cere lived and survived the incident in the archieve, and instead, when Bode is fighting Cal and merin on Tanaloor, Bode killed Merrin, turning Cal to the darkside. Cal then kills Bode in a fit of rage over Merrins' death and is only turned back to the light because of Cere and Greez. Dont get me wrong, Cere's death was executed beautifully, but what if. What do you guys think?
This definitely is the best Star Wars game 100%, and that ending would be nice cal would go ballistic if he killed Merrin
@@tajjjjjj_ Cal's greatest struggle should be saved for the 3rd game
Game's great, it's just that it's borderline unplayable because no one seems to be able to make a complete game at launch other than fucking Indie Developers.
@Godzilla Kaiju boy what do you mean. That must just be a personal issue, dude. I had 100% no issues, i think the game only crashed once throughout the time I played it, my froends have said the same.
@@tajjjjjj_ it's definitely good, but it still doesn't dethrone the KOTOR series
Cal Kestis could be a gray jedi
2:14 straight vader shit
Me at the ending of this clip: You should've gone for the head. 😊
2:21 that's a vader vibes there
Cal channeling anakin a bit there when he said "...Theyre all dead because of HIM" then switching to force crush was intimidating to see
Here's the thing the dark side isn't bad it depends on how you use it and while it can corrupt people that's mainly because those people didn't have enough will power to resist it's effects
Well, I think it's different when you just tap into it for a short amount of time. I think the Force by default enhances and is enhanced by a Force User's stronger emotions. It's an unending loop if you don't gain control, hence why turning to the Dark Side warps you because you tap into those darker emotions so often and it changes you.
If you don't like politicians doing selfish stuff "for the right reasons. If you hate abusive, narcissistic people preaching grey morals to excuse cruel "disepline." If you aren't going to commit atrocities for every time you give to charity, than don't preach grey. The idea bcoz it daring to be immoral, and may as well be. Carl Yungs "Shadow" philosophy is not doing wrong with excuses.
Only those that make excuses for their selfishness or are just too lazy to better themselves lie about morality, perpetuating the "grey morality" argument.
is cal gonna be the next mace windu ? balancing the light and dark side within him ?
The makings of a perfect Grey Jedi
Sometimes when others intend to do you harm, you must embrace your inner dark side to keep you safe. Not necessarily to strike back at them in retaliation, but to lessen the harm they can do to you.
Bode: slaps BD-1
Cal: S P A R T A N R A G E A V A I L A B L E
*Blaster Malfunctions*
Bode: Well, well, if it isn't the consequences of my actions
On second watch, when Merrin says “who is this” yes she’s asking Cal who Devkin was but i feel like since it was rhe first time she had seen Cal embrace the dark side she was asking who he was too
"Dark Side and Light Side abilities are neither good nor evil, it's how you use them!" - "Battlemaster" Kyle Katarn to Jaden Korr and Rosh Penin in Star Wars: Jedi Knight III: Jedi Academy
Don't give in to the dark side, Cal
"He sent Bode after our team. My crew, Cordova, CERE! They're all dead because of HIM!" Cameron Monaghan didn't hold back.
I know I'll always be a prequel memer at heart because at 6:16 i thought "So uncivilized."
The bone cracking sound when he's crushing that guy with the force
The dark side is inevitable for it is a mere concept that limits your ability to make a difference
There is no dark side
There is just the force
What? Bro, if you don't like politicians doing selfish stuff "for the right reasons. If you hate abusive, narcissistic people preaching grey morals to excuse cruel "disepline." If you aren't going to commit atrocities for every time you give to charity, than don't preach grey. You only like the idea bcoz it daring. It's daring to be immoral.
You misunderstand Carl Yungs "Shadow" philosophy if you think grey is good.
Only those that make excuses for their selfishness or are just too lazy to better themselves lie about morality, perpetuating the "grey morality" argument.
@@ThreadBareHope1234 My brother in Christ, what? The force is the raw magic energy in lore. The Jedis have a self-imposed cap on power. Their whole thing is about being detached and robotically adhere to rules for "The Greater Good". Dark siders also tend to believe that they have the answer for achieving their version of "The Greater Good." Both believe in a "Better World" but have differing views on the ultimate utilitarian justifications. If you just stop capping your growth in the force and path to possible God-Hood, then you basically by default take the path of the "dark side." According to the Jedi, even having a girlfriend that you love is a step onto the path of darkness.
Doesn't really matter much, since once you actually become a Force God, it's all the same to you and the scale of atrocities is miniscule compared to control over entire cosmic events.
Falling to the dark side is basically inevitable for anyone not willing to adhere to a solid power cap.
“It takes strength to resist the dark side. Only the weak embrace it.” - Obi-Wan Kenobi
I think what drives good men mad is the fighting will never stop. That depravity and chaos are immortal. But I want you to know that you make a difference, if you can love one person you made a difference. I want you to know that. Keep fighting.
In the next game
Cal has to use the dark side to become the great warrior that he is meant to be
Like darth revan did?
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I hope so
Yeah maybe he can become a threat too the new republic like thrawn was sorry I was thinking he'd become a full dark lord or sith
@@meruthesuccubus3416 well, i can't comment on that because there are some truth in your words. I'm going to quote from commenters that force are just primordial energy flow which are neither good nor evil, it's just is. It's the heart of the wielder who justify which is which.
Nah, he will be killed. He will join to the dark side, only to be killed by Vader because he doesn't need Cal.
"It isn't our abilities that make us who we are. It is our CHOICES." Albus Dumbledore.
Bro got god of war rage mode
To be fair, Bode brought it upon himself.
idk why everytime bode shot hit blaster, i thought of the mandalorian theme
Absolutely annihilating everything when using the dark side was seriously so much fun. Maybe it ain’t so bad🤔
He quite literally embraced the DARK side 😉
I love how he says "You won´t"
At 4:08 you can see cal forcibly smashing both bodes blasters together. It's why it jammed when bode shot cal.
That wheeze after he gets shot in the chest...
2:49
Cal: You wont
Merrin: *damn right you wont
"Good. Use your aggressive feelings boy. Let the hate flow through you."
Marrin "I will not lose you too"
Also Marrin: "see you on the mantis" 😅
I like the idea that the light and dark side of the force are dogmatic concepts and a more holistic approach to the force is the healthier option, you're not suddenly "embracing the darkness" when you're upset, you're human.
It's one thing to accept mistakes and moments of weakness as human, but try not to misread eastern religions as not separating moral and immortal.
If you don't like politicians doing selfish stuff "for the right reasons. If you hate abusive, narcissistic people preaching grey morals to excuse cruel "disepline." If you aren't going to commit atrocities for every time you give to charity, than don't preach grey. The idea bcoz it daring to be immoral, and may as well be. Carl Yungs "Shadow" philosophy is not doing wrong with excuses.
Only those that make excuses for their selfishness or are too lazy to better themselves lie about morality, perpetuating the "grey morality" argument.
@@ThreadBareHope1234 I think you've extrapolated further than I meant. Especially RE: Eastern Religion. My point is more just that I have an issue with the way they write characters being upset within the star wars universe. Any anger is always treated as like teetering on the edge of being lost completely to the dark side, Lightning isn't inherently more evil than killing someone with a laser but the writers use it as like narrative shorthand for being bad. I just think it's lazy to not engage with gray morality a little more in a setting like star wars and it's refreshing to see it being done more recently.
The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
After cal lifts him with the force you can see Bode’s pistol on the ground damage which is probably why it failed to fire later, the small details matter
Not a good sign seeing as how Merrin how to be there to convince him not to kill the guy. Next time Merrin won't be there or dead and he's going to lose it.
Kind of an outstanding circumstance, that guy ordered the death of literally everyone close to Cal that has died in the game up to that point.
The ONE GUY who is responsible for everyone you lost doesn't exactly grow on trees. Sure, if it happened again, he might lose it. Kind of a big if, Brother is running out of people to lose.
Nice little touch noticing that Denvik says “Rather you than Lord Vader.” Later when you return here in a free roam, you find the force echo at his chair, revealing that Vader did indeed kill him.
Maybe in the next game, Cal will meet Ahsoka and embrace the Bendu. Or better yet, Cal is in the Ahsoka show
1:01 - Cal gets his own Netflix adaptation
Kratos see Cal have L3+R3 to activity rage mode
Kratos: I don't know who is he but I raise him.
I knew before playing Cal would have some kind of Dark side change. The scene from fallen order where Cal has an Inquisitor suit and a red Saber was a dead give away.
Even though I was expecting it, it was still done well
0:01-0:30
Holy shit! That guy *isn't* supposed to be invisible during this cutscene. I guess multiple journalists got that bug, huh?