it does look like that from the outsiders view lol but in canon though Grievous didnt lie here Darth Tyranus(count dooku) did train him in like 7 different saber forms and in one of their heated sparring sessions Dooku was even getting overwhelmed by how quickly Grievous had adapted to his saber style and decided it was best that Grievous should never ever under any circumstances confront master yoda or mace windu cause he feared that gaining those forms would make Grievous more difficult to control. and indeed Grievous proved his medal by defeating both Asajj Ventress and Durge at the same time and later on coruscant he had been confronted by Mace an the jedi veteran noticed Grievous was learning his movements an out of desperation he destroyed the train car him and Grievous were on so that he wouldnt be pressured. though this maneuver meant that Grievous caught up to palpatine an reclaimed him an fled the planet's surface. the canon grievous i would say is definitely alot more better presented then the movie one lol
@@timesupea he is you are not wrong but i was more specifically referencing the off screen Grievous who is also canon to the star wars universe. the general grievous we are shown in comics and novels is better presented and is gauged as more a bigger threat than the cartoon or the movies shows us while also still maintaining his onscreen persona at the same time. to put into perspective for you Grievous is said to have killed many padwan, several knights, and even 1 jedi master in his conquests an succeed in taking many planets for the confederacy he was so feared an good at what he does that the republic was worried they'd actually loose to the confederacy but ofc that didnt happen because the plot wasnt about the confederacy but more so about the fall of the jedi order and the rise of a new sith empire so he was faded into the background intentionally but still present as a threat by design so that Darth Vader could ascend an be the main focus etc.
That was always one aspect I never liked, in the original clone wars cartoon series he was a whirlwind menace of blades and a pretty darn good killing machine. Here…he just sucks honestly doing his twirly crap instead of actually trying to hit him with 4 different angles of attack.
As Count Dooku said it best in the 2003 Clone Wars series... "In order to succeed combat against the best of the Jedi, you must have fear, surprise, and intimidation on your side." Obi-Wan was surprised at Grievous' spinning tactic, but he was not intimidated and not scared, for he was in tune with the force.
He was always using the force. Without precognition he would have been dead within the first 5 seconds of contact. Instead he's able to do things that constantly unbalances or surprises Grievous. No matter how slow it looks to us. Grievous calculations and predictions are forced to bluescreen and reboot at every move. That's how the force works. And Obi is very much in tune with the force.
@@adrianaslund8605I think he meant using the force in a more 'external' manner, like the force push Obi-Wan did to Grievous. Yes Obi-Wan was using the force for his precognition like you said, but he didn't use force push, pull, or any telekinetic abilities yet until he force pushed him.
Obi-Wan was an expert in fighting egomaniacs. His defensive perfection was super-irritating to these people, which usually led them to very dumb decisions. Obi-Wan didn't bring ego into a fight. He kept himself safe and waited for his opponent to screw up.
Soresu or Form III is also a defensive form that is based on element of surprise and counterattacks. Pissing people off who like to end fights quickly is basically a foil for Obi Wan because above all else Soresu requires patience, something almost everyone Obi Wan has went up against lacked.
General Grevious "You must realize you are doomed" I . . . I just cut off half your arms, dude. Well you know, Obi-wan said to let the Force guide you. The Force led him to those types with the ego and impatience to screw up.
He learned from his master! Qui-Gon wore himself out with his more active fighting against Darth Maul, which left him open. Obi-Wan changed to Form III specifically to defend himself without wearing himself out, so he'd never end up like his master.
As well as the high-pitched scream he makes when he realizes what Obi-Wan's done. It's like he's genuinely afraid Obi-Wan might be able to defeat him now.
I dont know how this ended up as a meme years later, but for those of us seeing this in the cinema back in 2005, it was genuinely one of the coolest things ever seen in a movie!
@@canofpizzasauce667 No, clearly was a nod to his own "the lightsaber is an elegant weapon for a more civilized age" tirade he's going to give to Luke years later.
@@canofpizzasauce667no, he says that as he throws the blaster, then he looks over at grievous, showing he was talking about the blaster before shifting his focus
Always loved how Grevious could have just let his droids kill Obi Wan, but decided on a fair one on one fight. It's like he's straight fed up with the Jedi's nuisance and thinks, "Alright you want to fight me? Let's go." Yes this is part of Obi-Wan's strategy and what he was hoping for, but it really says allot about Grevious. He's a warrior through and through.
In clone wars general Grievous was actually a proud and mighty warrior with the code of conduct and who didn't shy away from one on one duels in all likelihood. He took pride in killing Jedi especially and collecting lightsabers. It makes sense in a warriors code kind of way
Of course. He has to prove that he's worthy of the fight. That's part of the warriors code on some cultures. You have to prove to your opponent that you are worthy of their time.
I think it has more to deal with the years of work someone has to put into learning how to weld a lightsaber vs the basic amount of instruction to use a blaster. Someone winning in a sword fight more likely earned their victory vs someone who uses a gun.
I think the reason he said that is because he believes in the old style respectful way of duking it out with laser swords, formally saluting each other before you engage in combat, and showing respect to the victor and the loser. Blasters dont allow this in his opinion because you just start blasting everything in front of you.
@@Kanelle88 Theres still alot of skill that can be put into blaster work, unless you just use a fucking grenade launcher blaster thing then at that point you just have alot of credits
I heard once that Kenobi’s true power was the Low Ground, but that he said this to throw Anakin off his scent. It does make sense. He used the low ground to take Maul off his guard in TPM. He then got himself onto the low ground to set up blaster shots against Grievous that would circumvent his defense. Finally, he baited Anakin into trying to take the high ground, and then dismembered him from below - that is, while on the low ground. Obi-Wan Kenobi is Master of the Low Ground.
1:03 I love Ewan’s acting here. Just trough body language alone he perfectly shows us how Obi-Wan fights. He is slightly taken back by grievious agression so instead of striking head-on he starts analysing grievious’ fighting style to find an opening to strike.
Obi wan has some of the best lightsaber feats of his age. He chopped maul in half. Beat maul and savage at the same time. Killed grievous. Defeated and mamed Vader on mustafar. Beat vader again. Then he killed Maul in seconds on Tattooine. Dooku was the only one who had Kenobi figured out.
@@bamboozled9609dooku possibly could have had anakin beat as well, didn’t the novel state that Sidious told Dooku to take it easy on him and lose? Could have sworn I read that somewhere.
@@William_KPorter Dooku ends up abandoning that plan pretty quickly once Anakin really leans into his Vader side and is using all of his physical strength and stamina just to survive. Anakin also knows the only saber style that actually firmly counters Dooku's Makashi though - as Djem so allows him to put so much more force in his blows that the refinement of Makashi does not last. Credit to Dooku for doing as well as he does, but his saber style was countered and he'd unwittingly fed far too much of the dark side into Anakin's mind. Worse, Djem so's advantage is heightened by the fact that his stamina had run out. his age caught up with him at the wrong moment as Skywalker turned it into a contest of power in the force and raw physique, turning the essence of the duel into a young, strong man beating down a far older one.
@@matvangogh Grievous' cybernetics increase his strength and speed many times over and give him blaster resistant armor, as well as rotating wrist joints which augment the angles of attack that he can come from (think of the limitations of a human wrist joint, now imagine a human wrist joint could swivel 360 degrees), as well as giving him the iconic spinning attacks that can surprise and intimidate opponents. Not only that but his cybernetics also enhance his brain, augmenting his reflexes to a height which could rival some jedis precognition. On top all of that he is a master tactician, and was a greatly skilled warrior before his enhancements and training from count dooku. Also, he has four arms (four lightsabers) and was often accompanied by multiple magnaguards (the electrostaff wielding droids).
Grievous may have four lightsabers, but he doesn't make good use of them. He fights like someone with two arms. Swinging two blades through the same arc side-by-side isn't any more lethal or hard to block than doing it with one, and the spinning blades are only threatening if you don't realize you're just advertising a clear and predictable space where the blades WON'T be (i.e. at the center of the spin, where the hand is holding the unprotected handle of the saber).
For someone who called blasters "random and clumsy" Kenobi has clearly had practice; that was five out of five shots DIRECTLY in the heart with perfect accuracy.
I really like that even while Grevious is villainous, he still gives proper respect to him. He doesn’t say “Jedi scum”, but calls him “General Kenobi”, as one military commander to another. As any good officer would do for an opposing officer.
Homie had 4 spinning lightsabers. Even without the force, whirling them around can block shots. That's why obi wan destroyed some of his arms before even attempting this kind of thing.
Lore says he's built to tank shots from starships, so the assumption is Ben isn't just using physical strength to pry the damn plates open, but is going all-out with the Force _and_ muscles because he was _that_ in need for an opening. If Grevious was still 100% meatbag-- well, given the other feats of telekinesis we've seen Jedi do, I don't imagine it'd be too hard for some force-user to do a Kratos (or a Doomguy) and straight _rip someone in half._ One of the biggest feats of 'magical strength' I remember from old Extended Universe had a myth of a Sith who _tore two _*_stars_*_ open,_ so the resulting mini-supernova took out a spacefleet that was on his ass.
The new Clone Wars show kind of ruined Greivous. In the old timeline if a jedi had an encounter with him he would make sure they wouldn't survive for round 2 because shock and surprise were a major part of his fighting style and allowing a jedi to learn how he operated would give them a huge advantage in any potential rematch
obi wan opened his chest cage to expose his weak points before he fired it. he also decided to kick a metal leg. so not like he was setting it all up to get a shot in.
@@Xunkundoesn’t mean the plates there can open, the armor may be strong but I doubt it’s super hard to open the plates, probably so medical droids can work on him when he’s damaged
@@G.L.999Dooku was inmensely powerful, to the point where even Sideous realized he had to be careful keeping him due his whole mixed knowledge in both Jedi & Sith's ways. But anaking by disarming him (literally) proved to be the rule of third even so. Obi Wan on the other hand cannot be deafeated by mandatory plot armour plus bionic tuberculosis making any extra training useless, yet his wisdom along overmilked cannon material with Grivious compensates it more than enough.
@@focuspugilist673 Not canon? They seem to line up perfectly with the events of Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. The show even ends where Revenge of the Sith begins
He wasn't nerfed, General Grievous is a cyborg, meaning he can learn every Fighting style in seconds, Obi Wan knew that, so he used it as his attack, making movements that Grievous couldn't detect in his memory.
1:08 Imagine Grievous fell off because of accidentally slicing off his feet and Obi-Wan just looks down at him and says: “It’s over, general! I have the high ground!”
The novelization gave Obi-Wan the best line here. Grievous say, "I've been trained in your Jedi arts by Count Dooku!" And Obi-Wan replies, "What a coincidence. I trained the man who killed Count Dooku."
I remember watching this movie before I went completely blind. The site of General grievous holding for blue and green light sabers was one of the most terrifying. The sound that the light sabers make as he’s spinning them and approaching Kenobi though is terrifying. I only realize just how scary it actually was after I lost my vision. Listen to that part with your eyes closed, and you’ll see exactly what I mean. It’s scary. Lol.
I know this video is about the fight scene, but the detail of the Clones going to melee with near-dead droids is awesome, like the one who casually backhands a B1 with the DC-15A - one handed, no less
They nerfed poor Grievous so hard. Dooku was one of the best duellists in the series and Grievous trained with him. He didn't have access to the Force, but he had cybernetic augmentation and multiple lightsabers. Of course, traditional lightsaber attacks when you're a creature like Grievous is probably not the way to go. What Grievous did with the spinning blades at the start was more like what I'd expect from the whole fight sequence. Plus, I never understood why no one ever pressed the advantage who had at least two sabers. If you've got a saber lock with one saber versus one, why not direct the extra saber in a side cut at the undefended part of the other duellist? And in Grievous's case with 4 blades you would think you would occupy Kenobi's lightsaber with 1/4 of your blades, then use the other 3 to hit kenobi at 3 other different angles. He couldn't defend from all of them at once without resorting either to using the force or to being fast enough with his own saber to reflect the onslaught of 4 different sabers
Да, это не очень умно в плане постановки сцены. На самом деле, фехтование с четырехруким противником, оснащенным таким опасным оружием - закончилось бы на первой же атаке. Кеноби пришлось бы либо постоянно убегать, либо применять телекинез.
Plot armor sadly. Grievous would've easily stomped, not to mention how Kenobi should've been way more hurt if not outright dead from unarmed attacks that happened. His only chance would've been The Force, not fencing.
In the book, Obi-wan becomes one with the servomotors working inside Grevious mechanical frame through the force, he can anticipate his moves and he readjusts the mechanisms just enough to give him a slight advantage.
Звучит, конечно, интересно, но, честно говоря, мне не верится, что этого хватит для того, чтобы переиграть Гривуса на световых мечах. Если воздействие незначительно, то никакого существенного влияния, даже с предсказанием будущего на пару секунд вперёд не поможет, так как четырьмя (4) мечами киборг, вроде Гривуса, может производить такие голово скрывающие вещи, и с такой скоростью, что ты просто не успеешь обработать информацию. А если воздействие с ты значительно, то Гривус должен это чувствовать, отдав приказ на расстрел Кеноби
And to think master Windu already force crushing General grievous' torso, if that were cannon, made General grievous that much more vulnerable. Canon or not, grievous was such a badass in the clones cartoon series
From an apprentice to becoming mentor before attaining the rank of a Master are the things that well defined great Jedi Master Obi Wan Kenobi. Seeing and watching how very young Obi Wan Kenobi trained from being a Padawan of the great Legendary Jedi Master Qui Gon Jinn and progressed throughout his knighthood years as another apprentice's mentor and eventually acquiring tonnes of knowledge and experiences in life and battle to greater philosophy and light then finally rising to the rank of the highly recognized and respect by others as a Jedi Master himself, whom became as equally good and famed as his late Master Qui Gon just made this whole Star Wars saga a very legendary classic even in present days and many more years and generations to come ! How words can't explain enough to describe such beauty and transition from a mindful disciple to a well seasoned and wisely experienced Master Warrior just powers one's mind and spirit to another level. Obi Wan will always be loved and respected by many whom lived through his days of countless greatness and peril and I love it!
General Grievous: You fool. I've been trained in your Jedi arts by Count Dooku. Obi-Wan: What a funny coincidence. I trained the man who killed Count Dooku.
One of my favorite fight scenes I always think about the times Obi has made a comment to Anakin about being brutal but legit just ripped a man's (mainly robot) rib cage open to shoot him in the heart
Meanwhile in his lightsaber fight, he could have used the force to make another giant chunk of the ceiling fall on him or threw him straight off the cliff with the force lmao
My Alternate-Design for General Grevious: 0:45. “General Grevious” is in “Darth Vader Black Armour” & has 4 Red Lightsabers, Lightsaber-hilts are Black/Golden. His Name: Darth Grevious. This is My General Grevious Design.
From 0:54 - 1:16 Obi Wan was taken off guard when sees Grevious's multi lightsabers. The gesture he made when Grevious was approaching him like " SHIT" I didn't see this one coming...🤣🤣🤣
Ever notice how in literally every piece of media that whenever Grievous takes his cape off he gets absolutely wrecked but whenever he leaves it on; he's an unstoppable force of nature?
0:45 notice how one B 1 Droid tells his friend in the background to watch G. Grievous turn on his lightsabers and then look at each other like "Broooooh...😮" Hahahahaha
I just love how Obi-Wan says "How uncivilized" after the fight, a nice call back to ANH. Also him hurting his foot because he reflexively tries to kick Grievous leg forgetting it's made of metal is so funny yet realistic. This is one of the reasons why I love so much his character. He is much less larger than life than many of the Jedis.
Its probably because he doesnt have the force, while the jedi and sith can manipulate the saber with or without their hands. Looks like anakin is in luck, no hands no problem 😂
Fun fact, the Revenge Of The Sith novel confirms that "So uncivilized" is basically Obi-Wan's version of "Shit". The man is such a gentleman that even his cursing is polite.
When General Grievous said I been trained in your Jedi arts by Count Dooku. Obi-Wan should have said to General Grevious oh yeah, I trained the guy who killed Count Dooku I have the upper hand.
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Count Dooku training Grievous in the "Jedi arts":
"just start swirling around two of the four lightsabers and you're good, bro!"
it does look like that from the outsiders view lol but in canon though Grievous didnt lie here Darth Tyranus(count dooku) did train him in like 7 different saber forms and in one of their heated sparring sessions Dooku was even getting overwhelmed by how quickly Grievous had adapted to his saber style and decided it was best that Grievous should never ever under any circumstances confront master yoda or mace windu cause he feared that gaining those forms would make Grievous more difficult to control.
and indeed Grievous proved his medal by defeating both Asajj Ventress and Durge at the same time and later on coruscant he had been confronted by Mace an the jedi veteran noticed Grievous was learning his movements an out of desperation he destroyed the train car him and Grievous were on so that he wouldnt be pressured.
though this maneuver meant that Grievous caught up to palpatine an reclaimed him an fled the planet's surface.
the canon grievous i would say is definitely alot more better presented then the movie one lol
@@DeusGamezmovie grevious is canon lol
@@timesupea he is you are not wrong but i was more specifically referencing the off screen Grievous who is also canon to the star wars universe.
the general grievous we are shown in comics and novels is better presented and is gauged as more a bigger threat than the cartoon or the movies shows us while also still maintaining his onscreen persona at the same time.
to put into perspective for you Grievous is said to have killed many padwan, several knights, and even 1 jedi master in his conquests an succeed in taking many planets for the confederacy he was so feared an good at what he does that the republic was worried they'd actually loose to the confederacy but ofc that didnt happen because the plot wasnt about the confederacy but more so about the fall of the jedi order and the rise of a new sith empire so he was faded into the background intentionally but still present as a threat by design so that Darth Vader could ascend an be the main focus etc.
That was always one aspect I never liked, in the original clone wars cartoon series he was a whirlwind menace of blades and a pretty darn good killing machine. Here…he just sucks honestly doing his twirly crap instead of actually trying to hit him with 4 different angles of attack.
like the guys on table football...😂
Obi-Wan's face when Grievous starts spinning is great.
"Never seen that before".
"Just wait for an opening".
"Ah, there it is".
Totally
All while looking into green screen... 🤔
Hello there (the iconic sound)
As Count Dooku said it best in the 2003 Clone Wars series... "In order to succeed combat against the best of the Jedi, you must have fear, surprise, and intimidation on your side."
Obi-Wan was surprised at Grievous' spinning tactic, but he was not intimidated and not scared, for he was in tune with the force.
“This is gonna be fun”
4:01 Obiwan getting hurt from kicking Grievious's metal leg gets me every time 😂
Obi Wan forgot Grievous was a Cyborg for a second
Same reason Captain America tried to choke Ultron at one point in Ultron's introduced movie. It was meant to distract said robot.
Yeah he’s like “oh right I’m fighting a machineL
@@stellleo *Cyborg
😂😂😂😂 hahahaha I love that part 🤣🤣 like oooh that was so genuine I miss this Star Wars 😊😊😊
0:47 the two droids in the back
"dude watch he's gonna do the thing"
Lmao that sounds like what a droid would say
Lmaoooooo 😂
“who you got your money on bro?”
“The general is gonna get cooked bro let’s be honest”
ahahahhaah
I love how in so many of their fights throughout the clone wars and here, as soon as obi wan uses the force grievous gets the hell out of there
Grievous: *Chuckles* I'm in danger
He was always using the force. Without precognition he would have been dead within the first 5 seconds of contact. Instead he's able to do things that constantly unbalances or surprises Grievous. No matter how slow it looks to us. Grievous calculations and predictions are forced to bluescreen and reboot at every move. That's how the force works. And Obi is very much in tune with the force.
No amount of blaster-resistant armor is going to stand up to the power of a space wizard
He no longer had surprise fear and intimidation on his side
@@adrianaslund8605I think he meant using the force in a more 'external' manner, like the force push Obi-Wan did to Grievous. Yes Obi-Wan was using the force for his precognition like you said, but he didn't use force push, pull, or any telekinetic abilities yet until he force pushed him.
Obi-Wan was an expert in fighting egomaniacs. His defensive perfection was super-irritating to these people, which usually led them to very dumb decisions. Obi-Wan didn't bring ego into a fight. He kept himself safe and waited for his opponent to screw up.
Soresu or Form III is also a defensive form that is based on element of surprise and counterattacks. Pissing people off who like to end fights quickly is basically a foil for Obi Wan because above all else Soresu requires patience, something almost everyone Obi Wan has went up against lacked.
General Grevious "You must realize you are doomed"
I . . . I just cut off half your arms, dude.
Well you know, Obi-wan said to let the Force guide you. The Force led him to those types with the ego and impatience to screw up.
Of course bringing a shotgun to the situation would have solved Grievious' problems.
He learned from his master! Qui-Gon wore himself out with his more active fighting against Darth Maul, which left him open. Obi-Wan changed to Form III specifically to defend himself without wearing himself out, so he'd never end up like his master.
He’s a character…
Episode III truly had the best fight scenes of all movies
I agree
of ALL movies, yep. not ALL star wars movies. ALL movies.
Absolutely, i just finished watching the entire saga tonight. I agree.
@@zan7838Ahem, Kill Bill?
this is awsome😊
3:54 I love how Grievous slaps Kenobi all offended after he tries to rip his chest open
As well as the high-pitched scream he makes when he realizes what Obi-Wan's done. It's like he's genuinely afraid Obi-Wan might be able to defeat him now.
@@gelchertit’s the fear that suddenly breaks his egocentric illusion of being unbeatable.
He also cussed him out lol
In his native tongue @@AngelGuzman-f9c
“You pervert!” Ahh slap
0:01 best way to start this video
Hello there!
@@adawg2015General Kenobi!
I was gonna say, Perfect way to start the scene LOL
@@MegaBeast6854You are a bold one
Hello there!
I dont know how this ended up as a meme years later, but for those of us seeing this in the cinema back in 2005, it was genuinely one of the coolest things ever seen in a movie!
I believe that the people that meme on it think that it is cool as well.
I love that he picks the blaster up just so he can talk shit about it and throw it back down lmao
Fr I would’ve kept it
He was actually talking about Grevious.
@@canofpizzasauce667 No, clearly was a nod to his own "the lightsaber is an elegant weapon for a more civilized age" tirade he's going to give to Luke years later.
@@canofpizzasauce667no, he says that as he throws the blaster, then he looks over at grievous, showing he was talking about the blaster before shifting his focus
@E_Hammy the fact that this went over your head says a lot. Bet you pay for Disney plus 😂😂😂
Grevious: "Its over Kenobi, I have the high ground"
Kenobi: "Oh I don't think so"
If obiwan arrested palpatine he would of won.
Always loved how Grevious could have just let his droids kill Obi Wan, but decided on a fair one on one fight. It's like he's straight fed up with the Jedi's nuisance and thinks, "Alright you want to fight me? Let's go." Yes this is part of Obi-Wan's strategy and what he was hoping for, but it really says allot about Grevious. He's a warrior through and through.
and Kenobi could have used the force simultaneously with his sword skills to finish Grevious easily. So i guess it's one way of thanking the former.
In clone wars general Grievous was actually a proud and mighty warrior with the code of conduct and who didn't shy away from one on one duels in all likelihood. He took pride in killing Jedi especially and collecting lightsabers. It makes sense in a warriors code kind of way
Yet he sends his magma guards to kill him?
Of course. He has to prove that he's worthy of the fight. That's part of the warriors code on some cultures. You have to prove to your opponent that you are worthy of their time.
@@Jeremiahservant Obi Wan has fought Grievous many times before this tho.
Never attack Kenobi when he has high ground, never attack Kenobi when he's hanging from a cliff.
Even when Kenobi doesn't have the High Ground, he still has it. BD
So rather than the high ground or low ground, go for the middle ground.
Always attack Kenobi when he just has ground.
@@sobari745 lol
Never attack Kenobi. Period.
I love how Obi-Wan keeps saying blasters are uncivilized. Yes - much more civilized to cut someone's head off, or cut them in half lol.
Or cut the majority of your apprentice's limbs.
I think it has more to deal with the years of work someone has to put into learning how to weld a lightsaber vs the basic amount of instruction to use a blaster. Someone winning in a sword fight more likely earned their victory vs someone who uses a gun.
I think the reason he said that is because he believes in the old style respectful way of duking it out with laser swords, formally saluting each other before you engage in combat, and showing respect to the victor and the loser. Blasters dont allow this in his opinion because you just start blasting everything in front of you.
And then comes the failure known as "The Kenobi series" where he uses a blaster over his lightsaber for the majority of the show..
@@Kanelle88 Theres still alot of skill that can be put into blaster work, unless you just use a fucking grenade launcher blaster thing then at that point you just have alot of credits
1:48 "Army or not, you must realized you are doomed". Grievous knew what was coming while it was a foreshadowing moment.
Not to mention those were his exact last words he said.
Oh...
I Don't Think So.
Oh yes, indeed, my friend. Is like the good general knew what's going to happen even before his untimely demise.
Even without the high ground Obi-Wan was able to defeat him.
he managed in alot of movies to win without high ground. "maul scowls"
Obi Wan decides what the high ground is.
I heard once that Kenobi’s true power was the Low Ground, but that he said this to throw Anakin off his scent.
It does make sense. He used the low ground to take Maul off his guard in TPM. He then got himself onto the low ground to set up blaster shots against Grievous that would circumvent his defense. Finally, he baited Anakin into trying to take the high ground, and then dismembered him from below - that is, while on the low ground.
Obi-Wan Kenobi is Master of the Low Ground.
Anakin didn't have a blaster lol
High ground rule only works for Obi Wan Kenobi.
4:22 gives new meaning to the word “heartburn”
Or Acid Reflux
Grievous voice sounded like ooo that tickled
"So Uncivilized."
Heartwarming relationship between man and a cyborg.
1:03
I love Ewan’s acting here. Just trough body language alone he perfectly shows us how Obi-Wan fights. He is slightly taken back by grievious agression so instead of striking head-on he starts analysing grievious’ fighting style to find an opening to strike.
Too bad TCW ruined that by already making them fight prior.
Obi wan has some of the best lightsaber feats of his age. He chopped maul in half. Beat maul and savage at the same time. Killed grievous. Defeated and mamed Vader on mustafar. Beat vader again. Then he killed Maul in seconds on Tattooine. Dooku was the only one who had Kenobi figured out.
People always forget Dooku was the only one who could consistently defeat him. Whatcha expect from the man who trained Kenobi's Master!
@@bamboozled9609Dooku also had Kenobi after he was physically exhausted from combat
@@bamboozled9609dooku possibly could have had anakin beat as well, didn’t the novel state that Sidious told Dooku to take it easy on him and lose?
Could have sworn I read that somewhere.
@@William_KPorter Dooku ends up abandoning that plan pretty quickly once Anakin really leans into his Vader side and is using all of his physical strength and stamina just to survive. Anakin also knows the only saber style that actually firmly counters Dooku's Makashi though - as Djem so allows him to put so much more force in his blows that the refinement of Makashi does not last.
Credit to Dooku for doing as well as he does, but his saber style was countered and he'd unwittingly fed far too much of the dark side into Anakin's mind. Worse, Djem so's advantage is heightened by the fact that his stamina had run out. his age caught up with him at the wrong moment as Skywalker turned it into a contest of power in the force and raw physique, turning the essence of the duel into a young, strong man beating down a far older one.
In the novel, Mace Windu actually admits that Obi-Wan is the master of the Soresu form (Form 3) of saber cobat. So, yeah.
Imagine losing with four lightsabers.
This duel was literally quality vs quantity
Skill issue
I never understood how Grievous could defeat any jedi . he is not a force sensitive individual.
@@matvangogh Grievous' cybernetics increase his strength and speed many times over and give him blaster resistant armor, as well as rotating wrist joints which augment the angles of attack that he can come from (think of the limitations of a human wrist joint, now imagine a human wrist joint could swivel 360 degrees), as well as giving him the iconic spinning attacks that can surprise and intimidate opponents. Not only that but his cybernetics also enhance his brain, augmenting his reflexes to a height which could rival some jedis precognition. On top all of that he is a master tactician, and was a greatly skilled warrior before his enhancements and training from count dooku. Also, he has four arms (four lightsabers) and was often accompanied by multiple magnaguards (the electrostaff wielding droids).
Grievous may have four lightsabers, but he doesn't make good use of them. He fights like someone with two arms. Swinging two blades through the same arc side-by-side isn't any more lethal or hard to block than doing it with one, and the spinning blades are only threatening if you don't realize you're just advertising a clear and predictable space where the blades WON'T be (i.e. at the center of the spin, where the hand is holding the unprotected handle of the saber).
For someone who called blasters "random and clumsy" Kenobi has clearly had practice; that was five out of five shots DIRECTLY in the heart with perfect accuracy.
To be fair, the chest is a much easier target than the head.
Experienced but hated using blasters. I have to hand it to Obi Wan he is a jedi of pure class
I really like that even while Grevious is villainous, he still gives proper respect to him. He doesn’t say “Jedi scum”, but calls him “General Kenobi”, as one military commander to another. As any good officer would do for an opposing officer.
He legit called him Jedi scum though lol
@@joshjohnson5494 He actually called that Anakin
He literally calls him Jedi slime at 0:32
Until he calls him “Jedi Slime”
@@stellleo, and then followed that up by calling him a “fool”.
Years of dealing with Grevious, endless lightsaber fights, and no one ever thought to just shoot the bastarrd. 🤣
Homie had 4 spinning lightsabers. Even without the force, whirling them around can block shots. That's why obi wan destroyed some of his arms before even attempting this kind of thing.
Lore says he's built to tank shots from starships, so the assumption is Ben isn't just using physical strength to pry the damn plates open, but is going all-out with the Force _and_ muscles because he was _that_ in need for an opening. If Grevious was still 100% meatbag-- well, given the other feats of telekinesis we've seen Jedi do, I don't imagine it'd be too hard for some force-user to do a Kratos (or a Doomguy) and straight _rip someone in half._
One of the biggest feats of 'magical strength' I remember from old Extended Universe had a myth of a Sith who _tore two _*_stars_*_ open,_ so the resulting mini-supernova took out a spacefleet that was on his ass.
The new Clone Wars show kind of ruined Greivous. In the old timeline if a jedi had an encounter with him he would make sure they wouldn't survive for round 2 because shock and surprise were a major part of his fighting style and allowing a jedi to learn how he operated would give them a huge advantage in any potential rematch
obi wan opened his chest cage to expose his weak points before he fired it. he also decided to kick a metal leg. so not like he was setting it all up to get a shot in.
@@Xunkundoesn’t mean the plates there can open, the armor may be strong but I doubt it’s super hard to open the plates, probably so medical droids can work on him when he’s damaged
0:42 the "bY cOuNt dOOOUkuu" line sounds so smoothly satifacting with voice sound effect. Makes you forget the intentional nerf to the character.
Dooku's training of him didn't exactly age well in the end then.
@@G.L.999Dooku was inmensely powerful, to the point where even Sideous realized he had to be careful keeping him due his whole mixed knowledge in both Jedi & Sith's ways. But anaking by disarming him (literally) proved to be the rule of third even so. Obi Wan on the other hand cannot be deafeated by mandatory plot armour plus bionic tuberculosis making any extra training useless, yet his wisdom along overmilked cannon material with Grivious compensates it more than enough.
This fight was so dope. Grievous simultaneously wielding 4 light sabers is such a cool visual
Grevious is one of those characters where they are so cool and powerful, they get nerfed the next time they appear. 2003 was PEAK Grievous.
genndy tartakovsky's series of star wars microsode arent canon. But yeah, that grievous is insanely OP.
@@focuspugilist673
Not canon?
They seem to line up perfectly with the events of Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.
The show even ends where Revenge of the Sith begins
He wasn't nerfed, General Grievous is a cyborg, meaning he can learn every Fighting style in seconds, Obi Wan knew that, so he used it as his attack, making movements that Grievous couldn't detect in his memory.
1:01 that friggin would stress me out if I was a Jedi
kicks evil robot’s metal leg.
is surprised that his shin is in excruciating pain afterwards.
That's gotta hurt when Obi-Wan kicked General Grievous's leg.
0:37 Obi Wan : my student just killed your Count Dooku 😂😂
He actually says that in the novel 😂
means less when you realize Dooku was double crossed by Palpatine. he gave himself up to Anakin believing that he would turn at that moment
I like how no one has mentioned the fact when obi wan says “Hello there” is literally one of the biggest memes
“Hello there” 7 months later
*"Hello there"*
Why bother mentioning it? Its over played by this point.
Nobody mention it because everyone knows of it
Hello there
Man, Obi-Wan is like obsessed with cutting limbs off
must be enjoyable. why else would he do it?
@@TheBronflmao
3:36 Grievous falls like a senior person here.
"So uncivilized." Interesting that that 'uncivilized' weapon just saved your ass!!
2:35
No one’s talking about the clone trooper who just punched a droid
I don't see him😢
Even better .... He **butted** him with his
blaster.
💥 💥 💥
🤙🤙🤙 😎
He was being a CLONE.
I had to rewatch it like 7 times to see it hahahahaha
Good eye detective
0:00 THE "HELLO THERE" IS SO ICONIC
i LOVE the sound general grievous makes at 3:54
NGRWWAAHHH HWOOO
I laugh everytime I hear that, sounds too funny 😂
He's probably thinking "PERVERT!" Those are my insides you're looking at.
1:08 Imagine Grievous fell off because of accidentally slicing off his feet and Obi-Wan just looks down at him and says: “It’s over, general! I have the high ground!”
Now that would be a great YTP moment.
Loved it when you cut it from he said "hello there" 😂 even the real battle was after he finished that droids
😂😂😂grevious running is so goofy 2:01
Important lesson for the villain to learn. Never face Obi Wan hanging from a balcony. your skill increases drastically😂. 4:13
3:56 General Grievous be like:
*"Hey, dont look at my organs, silly fool😳😡"*
The novelization gave Obi-Wan the best line here. Grievous say, "I've been trained in your Jedi arts by Count Dooku!" And Obi-Wan replies, "What a coincidence. I trained the man who killed Count Dooku."
I cant believe this movie is gonna turn 20 years old really soon..
I remember my dad taking me to watch this in theaters twice.
So freakin good
I remember watching this movie before I went completely blind. The site of General grievous holding for blue and green light sabers was one of the most terrifying. The sound that the light sabers make as he’s spinning them and approaching Kenobi though is terrifying. I only realize just how scary it actually was after I lost my vision. Listen to that part with your eyes closed, and you’ll see exactly what I mean. It’s scary. Lol.
Opening this video with Hello There is just… oh it’s beautiful
Obi wan pov:
I just watched dear general punch a dent in a starship
Imma kick him
*5 seconds later*
THAT WAS UNWISE!
I know this video is about the fight scene, but the detail of the Clones going to melee with near-dead droids is awesome, like the one who casually backhands a B1 with the DC-15A - one handed, no less
Love the one liner in the end like he didn’t just have a fight to the death lol
0:01 Hello there 😂
I'm such a sucker for secondary villians, and Grevious takes the kale.
Kale
Cake
Gotta stay healthy.
FABULOUS fight sequence. I love Grievous' old school villain dialogue.
They nerfed poor Grievous so hard. Dooku was one of the best duellists in the series and Grievous trained with him. He didn't have access to the Force, but he had cybernetic augmentation and multiple lightsabers. Of course, traditional lightsaber attacks when you're a creature like Grievous is probably not the way to go. What Grievous did with the spinning blades at the start was more like what I'd expect from the whole fight sequence.
Plus, I never understood why no one ever pressed the advantage who had at least two sabers. If you've got a saber lock with one saber versus one, why not direct the extra saber in a side cut at the undefended part of the other duellist? And in Grievous's case with 4 blades you would think you would occupy Kenobi's lightsaber with 1/4 of your blades, then use the other 3 to hit kenobi at 3 other different angles. He couldn't defend from all of them at once without resorting either to using the force or to being fast enough with his own saber to reflect the onslaught of 4 different sabers
Right I say he fought better at the 2003 “Dexter laboratory” creator of clone wars 😂 the fight choreography in that show was *chef kiss* 😘 amazing
Да, это не очень умно в плане постановки сцены. На самом деле, фехтование с четырехруким противником, оснащенным таким опасным оружием - закончилось бы на первой же атаке. Кеноби пришлось бы либо постоянно убегать, либо применять телекинез.
Plot armor sadly. Grievous would've easily stomped, not to mention how Kenobi should've been way more hurt if not outright dead from unarmed attacks that happened. His only chance would've been The Force, not fencing.
In the book, Obi-wan becomes one with the servomotors working inside Grevious mechanical frame through the force, he can anticipate his moves and he readjusts the mechanisms just enough to give him a slight advantage.
Звучит, конечно, интересно, но, честно говоря, мне не верится, что этого хватит для того, чтобы переиграть Гривуса на световых мечах. Если воздействие незначительно, то никакого существенного влияния, даже с предсказанием будущего на пару секунд вперёд не поможет, так как четырьмя (4) мечами киборг, вроде Гривуса, может производить такие голово скрывающие вещи, и с такой скоростью, что ты просто не успеешь обработать информацию.
А если воздействие с ты значительно, то Гривус должен это чувствовать, отдав приказ на расстрел Кеноби
Which books are these?
Revenge of the Sith Novelization
“Becoming one with the servomotors” that’s why I hate these novelizations. They have their moments but this is so goofy
Best star wars novel in my opinion. Even better if you read it before the movie even comes out lol
And to think master Windu already force crushing General grievous' torso, if that were cannon, made General grievous that much more vulnerable. Canon or not, grievous was such a badass in the clones cartoon series
It kinda is still canon because you can hear him coughing in this movie.
4:33 IM ON FIRE!!!!!!! In a very bad way. 🤣🤣🤣
I read it as the Kasabian song 🤣🤣
The "deleted scene" version of this is absolutely bonkers. It's like a rough render of how it was supposed to go and it's like a fever dream.
Grievous' spinning lightsabers couldn't get past Obiwan defense.
LoL
Actually funny enough in the book it said grievous did push through Obi Wans defense
The iconic hello there 🤣 👍 gets me every time
3:56 Grievous: *angry cyborg noises*
0:25 omg... They sampled that infamous metal pipe sound
From an apprentice to becoming mentor before attaining the rank of a Master are the things that well defined great Jedi Master Obi Wan Kenobi.
Seeing and watching how very young Obi Wan Kenobi trained from being a Padawan of the great Legendary Jedi Master Qui Gon Jinn and progressed throughout his knighthood years as another apprentice's mentor and eventually acquiring tonnes of knowledge and experiences in life and battle to greater philosophy and light then finally rising to the rank of the highly recognized and respect by others as a Jedi Master himself, whom became as equally good and famed as his late Master Qui Gon just made this whole Star Wars saga a very legendary classic even in present days and many more years and generations to come ! How words can't explain enough to describe such beauty and transition from a mindful disciple to a well seasoned and wisely experienced Master Warrior just powers one's mind and spirit to another level. Obi Wan will always be loved and respected by many whom lived through his days of countless greatness and peril and I love it!
3:54 - I love Grievious's sudden reaction like "You Pervert."
Just saw that for the first time now but did anyone else check the clones hitting the droids' head on 2:26 ? 😂
General Grievous: You fool. I've been trained in your Jedi arts by Count Dooku.
Obi-Wan: What a funny coincidence. I trained the man who killed Count Dooku.
The droid saying "Uh oh" is my favorite part
One of my favorite fight scenes I always think about the times Obi has made a comment to Anakin about being brutal but legit just ripped a man's (mainly robot) rib cage open to shoot him in the heart
Director: We need a really cool sound effect for Grievous' unicycle thing
Sound effects guy: How about "igidigigidigidigineeeoww"
Director: That'll do
Starts with a meme, ends with another.
Perfection.
And thus the legendary "Hello there" was born
You’re a madlad for starting with that one iconic quote from Kenobi
Grievous: “Back away! I’ll deal with this Jedi slime myself”
Obi-Wan: “You’re move”
Grievous: “I’m just kidding, shoot him”
*Obi-Wan dies instantly*
Meanwhile in his lightsaber fight, he could have used the force to make another giant chunk of the ceiling fall on him or threw him straight off the cliff with the force lmao
0:44 there are some b1 battle droids in the back one nudges the other to get him to see grievous ignite his lightsaber.😂
That one poin when grevious turns into a spider 😮
That droid “uh oh” at 2:27 sounds so out of place.
slept 12 hours, turned on the pc to play minecraft, hop on youtube to watch something, first video pops up: Hello there! XD
My Alternate-Design for General Grevious: 0:45.
“General Grevious” is in “Darth Vader Black Armour” & has 4 Red Lightsabers, Lightsaber-hilts are Black/Golden.
His Name: Darth Grevious.
This is My General Grevious Design.
the classic "hello there" always make my dad laugh😂
I swear I keep replaying him saying “hello there” 😂
From 0:54 - 1:16 Obi Wan was taken off guard when sees Grevious's multi lightsabers. The gesture he made when Grevious was approaching him like " SHIT" I didn't see this one coming...🤣🤣🤣
I rewatched this fight scene high on mushrooms and nearly had a panic attack epic fight
Best Star Wars scene ever. Everything is just perfect here: action, tension, humor, the character, voice and appearance of Grievous, the one liners...
I love how each lightsaber has a recoil when Grievous ignites them 0:48
Ever notice how in literally every piece of media that whenever Grievous takes his cape off he gets absolutely wrecked but whenever he leaves it on; he's an unstoppable force of nature?
Haha
"Hello there!" Obiwans favorite thing to say.
3:55 Grievous’ noises kill me every time 😂
1:54 hollup...did he know about order 66 and palpatine being the manipulator behind everyhting?
Grievous didn't
He meant by him.
Grievous doesn’t know Palpatine is Darth Sidious at all
0:45 notice how one B 1 Droid tells his friend in the background to watch G. Grievous turn on his lightsabers and then look at each other like "Broooooh...😮" Hahahahaha
Still superior to ANYTHING Disney Star Wars 🤷🏿♂️
Well, the fights in this film are better than any of the classic films too
@@kauasoares7999 this is film is the best no cap
I just love how Obi-Wan says "How uncivilized" after the fight, a nice call back to ANH. Also him hurting his foot because he reflexively tries to kick Grievous leg forgetting it's made of metal is so funny yet realistic. This is one of the reasons why I love so much his character. He is much less larger than life than many of the Jedis.
One little detail I can really appreciate here.. 0:48 as the lightsabers are activated his arms nudge down a little bit instead of just staying still
Its probably because he doesnt have the force, while the jedi and sith can manipulate the saber with or without their hands. Looks like anakin is in luck, no hands no problem 😂
Jedi arts training 101
'Swing those 4 blades like a fucking ceiling fan and you'll never lose'
1:29 I always love this rush right here.
0:29 The funny thing is grevious maybe would've won if he had their help.
0:50 why does the final green lightsaber hilt look like anakin’s one
Fun fact, the Revenge Of The Sith novel confirms that "So uncivilized" is basically Obi-Wan's version of "Shit". The man is such a gentleman that even his cursing is polite.
When General Grievous said I been trained in your Jedi arts by Count Dooku. Obi-Wan should have said to General Grevious oh yeah, I trained the guy who killed Count Dooku I have the upper hand.
He literally said that in the novelisation.
“I was trained in your Jedi arts by Count Dooku!”
“Really? I trained the man who killed him…”
@Shake-Off-Fear Obi Won should of said it in the movie.
It’s kinda hilarious how the fight choreography peaked so much in the prequels and episode 3 especially.
2:01 this walk gets me every time