SIMPLE Guide to 13/14th Gen Intel Crashes
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- I was having major stability issues in game with my 13900k. I kept getting out of video memory errors and this was the solution I found after doing lots of research! Hopefully this helps you!
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UPDATE: Gamer’s Nexus made a great video on the current state of Intel and I’m incredibly disappointed with how they are handling this issue.
Everyone’s personal fixes have been varying almost processor to processor including a few of my friends so it seems now especially since new updates there are no single fixes and if the video’s fix isn’t working for you, your processor might be damaged and require RMA.
I hate Brand loyalty and I don’t want to praise AMD coming from this situation either. Competition is good and no company will have our best interest without competition. That being said Intel has really disappointed me and I will be wary with their products going forward. I will potentially be making my own comparison videos between best processor offerings and hopefully bring the best unbiased advice I can.
From my gut feeling, I will be waiting for the 3D cache variant of the current AMD chips to release for my next upgrade. Hopefully they will not give me as much headache as this intel generation has.
-Ameli
Genuinely thank you so much for this video, I've been experiencing crashes only on my desktop applications like Chrome and Discord, and not games - but I knew it was my CPU that was the cause because any adjustments to the power limits would sway the crashes. This made me comfortable with undervolting, I've never seen anyone actually go through the workflow of actually doing it so this made me feel comfortable. Have you heard anything about Intel's next steps? Asus released an Intel Baseline profile, but this doesn't match their chart. Curious to what they'll do. So far I think your 0.02 undervolt has stabilized everything - for now. Thanks again for the video! I feel like this isn't being talked about enough, potentially everyone with these chips are crashing and there's radio silence from Intel.
Really glad this helped you :) I wasn't sure if it would be worth making the video but I knew it was the video I wish I had when I was going through this! Intel seems to be ignoring the issue and just expecting users to find their own solutions so not sure what to expect
BIOS Settings for Gigabyte:
• Pervdrive: Optimize
• Enhanced Multi-Core: Disable
• CEP: ON
• TVB: ON
• Offset Voltage: -95 mV
• IA VR Voltage Limit: 1375mV
• IA VR Config: Enable
• CPU Current Limit: 400 A
• XMP Profile: XMP 1
• High Bandwidth: Enable
• Low Latency: Enable
• Loadline Calibration: Turbo
• AC Loadline: 45 mΩ
• DC Loadline: 45 mΩ
• C-States: Enabled
• Package C State Limit: C7
Dynamic Tuning Technology:
• Dynamic Tuning Technology (DTT): Enabled
This works for my CPU, you may have to change a little
Intel didn’t “let” motherboard manufacturers push more power to their CPUs. They did this all on their own to push…at best one FPS more than a competitor.
Very true. Unfortunate that they had to resort to these measures to try and beat the competition
There is one difference from the other videos that I’ve watched is that they disabled the multi core enchantment. Is there a reason you didn’t change just curious because I’ve been having issues with my new high end pc
Great question! Disabling Mutlicore enhancement enforces some of those limits we applied automatically which would be perfect.
BUT it seems like Asus purposefully set limits lower than Intel’s recommended spec potentially to upset Intel? When I disable multicore enhancement it sets my limits to 280 Amp (which is lower then the base profile 307 Amp)
I’ve just left it on so we can control those values ourselves! Hopefully this helped
Its a shame this whole time ive been having random pc crashes for the past 5 years. Happened around a month in of having my new pc, it would crash when i play games or in the middle of simple things like just using google chrome. It then stopped for a couple of months like is was running fine. Then the crashing came back but it was more frequent. My CPU is intel i9-9900K. I then took my pc to THREE different pc specialists who all told me they couldnt figure out what the problem was because everything is working fine within my pc all the components, the temperature are all fine. Now that im hearing about intel having issues with their CPU this might just be the problem. My pc over the years would crash then it wouldnt for months but now its came back again.
Experiences like those are the absolute worst. Being a 9th gen processor it might just be defective and require replacement :( The reason its happening to all these processors are the extra heat is causing them to become defective. Pretty disappointing from Intel. Definitely see if you can RMA your chip if its within its warranty window. Hopefully you'll get some response from them!
Have a 13900k so far knock on wood, no crashes. Using a asus z790 tuf board temps are 32c idle and under load around 54c, not a overclocker.
It will.
New PC channel ahhh yeah! 😊
Once you start getting crashes, there is likely some damage done to the chip. What a sh1tshow it is. I have gone for extreme stability over performance to see me out of this generation. On my 2x 13900k systems and my 1x 14900k system, I have set the E cores to 8, and all other power limits and clocks to match the 12900k spec. It now benches slightly better than a real 12900k, presumably because of an improved IPC. By setting the power limits (boost and overall amps), it doesn't go beyond 1.3v (give or take a few milivolts), so I didn't need to go through the stability testing cycle of manual undervolting. Plenty fast enough for me until I move platform. Don't get me wrong this is not a good thing, I just need to remain productive.
How do I do this in the bios settings for 13900k and msi mpg z790 carbon wifi
I have a i7-13700K and an i9-14900K with that ASUS Prime Z790-A board. I had similar errors, but I don't think that isn't how I solved it. I'll look at my settings tomorrow.
This isn't an issue with 13/14th Gen Intel CPUs. This is an issue with motherboards and only with Core i9 processors.
A couple friends I have had also had issues with their i7 processors due to these issues as well! But I do think the majority issue is with i9's!
@@AmelisTech I've actually had the same issues with my new i7 14700KF, with base settings it would crash even with updates BIOS on my Z790 Asrock, I solved it by undervolting by 100mV, been running stable last 2 weeks. Also I've never had stress test crashes, only crashes in apps/games, seemingly random while usage was in the low 30s for both GPU and CPU
@@THECH1NA Very weird behavior! Glad you're issue was solved. Unfortunate Intel is having these issues in the first place.
no problem just manually ajust every time you build a pc. use your brain!! Arrow lake will killin it
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Hello, is the intel i5 13500 affected by the Intel problems? I know is build on Alder Lake platform C0 silicon chip.
where can i find the intel specs ?
I have an i7 14700k with heat and voltage issues and the same mobo bios as u and changing the setting u told us to change made me crash hard during idle but changing the actual vrm core voltage not the svid voltage did the trick
Edit: u were right i caused it to crash by removing the undervolt i set in the bios in xtu
Would you please bless me with this information :
On an MSI z790 edge ti max the offset for undercoating , should I select -pwn or -cpu , it used to be just - or + now there is 2 options
From my understanding, pwn is the voltage reading near the regulator while cpu is the reading near the cpu.
meaning if you do it by pwn, it means what voltage your cpu gets should be lower. i would use cpu but test a little bit with pwn if u have the time to see if you can get better results with the same offset
I just want this nightmare to be over. I think intel is to blame, but motherboard manufacturers are to blame as well since the default settings out of the box are not to the CPUs specs. I purchased a new Intel PC a month ago and love it but would hate to have it break in a couple of months. This is not how consumers should be exposed to anxiety. I realize six months from now as most defective CPUs have been replaced, patches and bios upgrades have stopped degradation in chips like mine that currently exhibit no issues and finally the new Intel chips are hopefully running well so we can move past this horrible episode.
Yah it’s pretty frustrating! I wouldn’t worry too much now because the settings built in are getting much better but it really was an upsetting situation.
Luckily I’ve had zero issues with my processor now and hopefully Intel learned their lesson after the pending lawsuit
@@AmelisTechagreed
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Installed bios with the “extreme profile” and on cinebench r24 multicore test i hit 2024 points with my 13900k … never hit 100 C on core (Max 96 C) and it’s seems stable
I lost 5.5% compared to the “unlimited” motherboard profile… so Not that bad
Definitely not bad! Glad you were able to get it stable
Dude, your Vcore voltage is terribly high, 1.30v should be enough for your i9, as mine i7 runs stable with 1,255vcore. That was the main reason your chip was hot as hell.
@@neigebuttert The crazy thing is that’s the default out of the box setting
@@AmelisTech I completely agree, however, this needs to be tweaked manually. Honestly, my 14700k runs stable with 1,255V where P-Cores by default have 5,500 mhz and e-cores have 4,300. Now with the sweltering heat outside within summer my aorus x 360 waterforce water-cooling manages to keep
it 65-67 degrees in pubg and cs2 delivering very high frames
Well i found a good solution after trying many solution use intel extreme spec with pl1 pl2 253 watt iccmax 400amps CEP disabled enhanced turbo or MCE disabled CPU lite load mode 7 cpu offset positive +0.045 v and bingo thermals under 90 and getting cinebench r23 39400 and cinebench 2024 2250 at consistent basis and my pugetbench scores are much higher than before earlier i got 40400 in R23 and 2300 in cinebechn2024 but temps frequently hitting 100 If i increase the pl1 pl2 to 288 and iccmax to 475 i can easily get 40300 cinebench but temps hitting 100 my processor is i9 14900k
I got the same CPU , it hits 100 sometimes and cinebench giving me 32k score only , I only updated to the latest bios , I got z790 MSI board , I'm getting a water cooler today and a contact CPU frame hoping that will change something , cooler is gigabyte water force x 2 ice and the frame is thermalright
Bro ihave same motherboard with i7 14700k how to fix that
¿Undervolt?.
@@mariodevita661 no stock
@@mariodevita661 i dont know how to undervolt
I was going to make a video but im too lazy and I review gaming peripherals but here is what you need to do.
P Cores: Sync or Set to 5.5ghz (55)
E Cores : Sync or Set to 4.3ghz (43)
PL1: 253
PL2: 253
Duration: 56s
307A
Adaptive + Offset > Negative Sign > start with 0.005 and keep increasing by 0.005 increments
I have my 14700K set to -0.115.
Basically keep your VIDs under 1.4v and watch your vcore.
I just leave my LLC on auto for my MSI motherboard and with ROG boards I have mine set to Level 4
Best to switch to AMD and forget Intel scammers
I always like to pick the product that’s the best during the time. all companies make mistakes and brand loyalty is rarely a good choice.
Hopefully the next generation from both companies will be exciting
Its that 511.75A setting that does it...... 10000000% Bring that down to 400A or below..... WHERE IT SHOULD BE and everything is perfect at that point.