Just want to say thank you, I combined your undervolt/overclock videos and was able to get P48 all core E36 44 on ring with -0.45 offset stable with occt, Will still keep trying for better but this is a huge uplift in my cpu heavy games and runs darn cool! Kept ecores enabled for multitasking, I use processlasso to lock specific games to pcores.
Very helpful info and tutorial, can't believe there are only 200 likes, shall be 2MM! I spent 20 mins and improved my rainbow six siege FPS by 50 - 70. Huge impact. Thanks a lot for making this video
Increasing cpu cache ratio will always work well to boost game fps, as is shown by the gaming performance of the new amd 3d v-cache cpus i'd say. Even though amd increased rhe cache size and not the speed, result is the same since actions can be written into cache faster
I have same bios as you but for some reason my perfromance cpu clock will only let me set it to 50 max and the ring ratio to 46, how do i unlock it so i can go above that? ive turned off the ring to core offset but it still wont let me
THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Realy! (tear drop of ignorance) crashing more than like 80 hours of my life over 2 years! not exaggerating.
Hi, I heard after disabling e cores, the p cores has more headdroom for overclock. But I care about stock voltage and cool CPU, so can I benefit from just increasing ring ratio? Without increasing voltage. And what's the point of increasing base clock if turbo is used on high performance mode (power plan) ? Aren't you supposed to increase the turbo per clock? Or does turbo need to be disabled? See if turbo reach 49, but you changed base clock to 51, doesn't this conflict? Or will turbo be redundant automatically?
Running 5ghz all p core, 4ghz all e core, 40 ring ratio @ 1.3vcore on high LLC. I've got a contact frame installed and only pushing 80-83c. Can't seem to push the chip much higher. Any minor tweaks I can try to push a little extra out of the chip?
Well, disabling the e-cores would help a lot, on the cache especially, but it could lose you performance. I’d say you’d need a delid really, but don’t expect anything higher than a truly stable 5.1/5.2
@@ImWateringPSUs I tried bumping it to 1.375 volts. I could probably find something stable but I found I could keep my original settings and bump my ring ratio to 42 which has almost given me similar multi-core performance at a much lower voltage at 1.3v still
If you want to keep the e cores enabled , can you still set the ring ratios to 47 ? Also on the z690 boards, should you first select "sync all cores" or "by core " or just leave that on auto ? Before doing the other settings
I would be grateful if anyone could clarify me some things! I don't have "enhanced multi-core performance" or "power limit/duration" on my mother but I have "active turbo ratios" that if manual I got to set each of the 12 cores, should I max them all instead? default they are 50 49 49 49 48 etc. Another option I have is "Turbo power limits" but inside that there are 12 options auto by default like "package power limit 1-tdp (watts)" etc etc, should I max all those as well? Also I have both options for Vcore fixed and override, which one should I choose?
I followed this but 1.3v didnt work and so i changed my e-core ratio to 39 and voltage to 1.37 and still crashed... Using xtu and cpu-z, do you have bin down enabled? Going to try voltage up to 1.39 and ecores to 38 and see what happens the ring ratio is still on 40 though didn't change that. If 1.39 and ecores 38 is stable then i will do an undervolt as well
Bro I have had my 12700k for 6 months with e cores at 4.9Ghz my p cores could only do 5.0 but like you said I've gained a .8Ghz on my ring so I'm at 4.8 there and I'm running 5.3Ghz on all p cores my temps maybe hot in cinebench r23
Can i follow the gaming preset but still keep my E-cores enabled ? Just run the other settings i dont want to disable e-cores but i do like the other settings
Hi, soo I have cpu clock at 52 and ring at 50 Vcore at 1.350v but for some reason my ring ratio doesn’t show it’s changed it’s stuck at 4.6mhz is this a know issue?
@@ImWateringPSUs in my bios it only gave me the option for max ring I didn’t have a min ring option. It’s the same board same everything only different is yours has ddr5 i have ddr4
Can you explain why i can not go higher the 48 on the p cores because it doesnt show anny higher then that Same counts for the min max u can only go to 46 And yes i have the i7 12700K
Hope someone can help I did the exact tutorial for 5.0 P cores, 4.0 E cores and LLC in the middle but during stress test it's not staying locked. It's throttling to 4.8ghz lemme know
Problem with per core OC is that it’s too difficult to determine stability. I don’t want my PC to have random crashes and to fine tune it along the way. I’d rather get 100-200Mhz less in single core (4% max) and get a system that I know won’t crash tbh
I have a 12700kf and I can't see some of the settings you have. My ring ratio is also capped at 46, and my performance clock ratio is capped at 50. Is the problem my cpu or is something wrong with my bios
5.2 crashed for me with ecores off and the ring at 49 so far the ring at 49 is good tho I might go for the 50 5.1 is stable with full load cpu hits 87 c using a waterforce x 280 aio
I don't understand how you 5.1GHZ guys are getting crazy temps on AIO. 87C? I'm running 5.1 on P and 4 on E with a max temp of 75C on R23. Cheap air cooler. ID Cooling SE-225-XT. And I am NOT running an undervolt. 0.030 adaptive overvolt. Same loadline setting as him, high.
@@georgebrandon7696 got to take into consideration ambient temps too. They might live in a hot environment. I keep a floor unit on at 66 degrees and max temps I've seen my cpu get was 60 at full load clocked at 5.1 on the pcores and 4.0 on the ecores
@@mrdappernature8861 12 degree higher ambient, though? My consistent room temp is around 70-72 degrees (without AC). Who runs in an 84 plus degree room for gaming?
Hermano te lo agradezco, con otro video le hice undervolt a mi grafica 3070 ya que siempre andaba sobre los 77-80c° y unos 90 fps de media en forza en calidad ultra. Ahora con el overclock del procesador voy a 70c° estables en la grafica ya que trabaja menos y 144fps en Forza 5 en ultra y el procesador ni pasa los 60c° 😂😂😂
Hello! I have intel core i7 12700kf and a 3060ti, PRIME H610M-A WIFI D4 moderboard. should i try your settings for fps boost in cs2? my bios dont looks like yours eather so how to get it like that? Good video, keep up
That's VERY odd... you sure your other settings were left the same? I did test CS:GO again to double check and disabling the e-cores does not hinder performance, unless you have background stuff that gets now handled by the p-cores!
@@ImWateringPSUs E-cores reduces DPC latency, even with minimal background tasks, CSGO is faster with them turned on. I NEVER disable the e-cores, including console emulators (which i get higher fps with them turned on than off despite that my 12700K has AVX512 instructions, it's a 2021 batch).
@@paulotakahama Why you want to increase the ring frequency for 12th gen? If you care about that, 13th gen is just better: more ring frequency, more core clocks, more cache, faster memory support.
my cpu OC @ 5000mhz Time spy gpu 18661 3dmark score / cpu 16593 score total score 18318 (with 3080RTX) my cpu non OC standaard 4700mhz time spy gpu 18581 3dmark score cpu 15972 score / total score 18136 (with 3080RTX) my opinion, + - 300 mhz more makes almost no difference in performance, those who say they have 30 fps more in games I don't believe it
@@ExtremeMusicSpacethat’s why I’m wondering if I should keep mine undervolted at 4700mhz or keep it at 5000mhz overclocked. I only gained about 10c in heat with my build. I average around 50-60 Celsius OC and 40-50c undervolted
Personally I'd go for 4.7Ghz. 5Ghz feels nice but very often it's not worth the tradeoff. But if you subscribe to the channel you're gonna have a higher chance of achieving 5Ghz :3
@@ImWateringPSUs I'm not going to bother trying anymore. I just defaulted with cmos reset and turned my XMP back on. I can't fiddle around anymore seems to never work for me.
@@ImWateringPSUs It has been 11 months passed and tonight I tried to replicate everything you mentioned on the video using my laptop on the side and everything is working better and Escape from Tarkov is running at a more stable and higher framerate. Appreciate the help brother! At first I froze and had to manually reset the PC at 1.3v and then I swapped it to 1.35v and it works perfectly. I guess I got unlucky with my CPU but the Ring Ratio OC has definitely helped I decided to play it safe at 47.
What settings did you try? Remember that you need a good cooler and that if you don’t have one it’s better to undervolt (I have a tutorial for that too)
My 12700k's potential sucks 😂 cant even stay at 5.0 with no e core and ring ratio 44 and 1.3v Im gonna try 41 and if it stable I'll lower the vcore voltage to drop temps a bit (if I'm doing it correctly😅) Update: now stable at somewhat stable at 5.0Ghz / 40 Ring / fixed voltage crashes every time so i tried Auto voltage first Idle voltage is like 1.36v, around 46-52c... Now i just have to fine tune the vcore voltage to lower my cpu temp 😅
My oc settings 12700k p cores 5.4 ecores 4.3 ring ratio 5.0 hyperthreading disable ram 6000mhz cpu v core auto .. I just did loadline calibration to turbo .. cpu voltage is auto .. pc running stable 24 hours stress test temps 80 degree max on stresss test with Montech 360mm aio mobo z790 d ax basic one
Just want to say thank you, I combined your undervolt/overclock videos and was able to get P48 all core E36 44 on ring with -0.45 offset stable with occt, Will still keep trying for better but this is a huge uplift in my cpu heavy games and runs darn cool! Kept ecores enabled for multitasking, I use processlasso to lock specific games to pcores.
Very helpful info and tutorial, can't believe there are only 200 likes, shall be 2MM! I spent 20 mins and improved my rainbow six siege FPS by 50 - 70. Huge impact. Thanks a lot for making this video
Only 70 fps is terrible for rainbow even max settings
You're way too kind my man, thank you! If you wanna help support the channel, consider subscribing :)
@@ca1isink664he clearly said that is how much it was increased by, stupid.
@@ca1isink664he said he improved his fps by 70
Increasing cpu cache ratio will always work well to boost game fps, as is shown by the gaming performance of the new amd 3d v-cache cpus i'd say. Even though amd increased rhe cache size and not the speed, result is the same since actions can be written into cache faster
Facts!
Yo how do i do that?
@@wouterjelle Cpu cache ratio = Ring ratio on this motherboard lad
I have same bios as you but for some reason my perfromance cpu clock will only let me set it to 50 max and the ring ratio to 46, how do i unlock it so i can go above that? ive turned off the ring to core offset but it still wont let me
Are you sure you have a K-series CPU? You might need to put your bios into “expert” mode
Same problem here
THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Realy! (tear drop of ignorance) crashing more than like 80 hours of my life over 2 years! not exaggerating.
I’m really happy it was helpful! Thanks a lot for taking the time to write this! :)
I don't overclock, i simply undervolted the CPU, gained 6% more singlethread perfomance.
Yup, I do have a tutorial for that too! It’s what I actually recommend for most people, as an overclocked 12700K really needs a good cooler
@@ImWateringPSUs A liquid cooler and a very good motherboard. For stock and an undervolt, it's a perfect beast of a CPU with air cooling.
@@ImWateringPSUs Can both be done without doing any harm?
@@andrasnagy1196 have you found out yet
@@ClasSiXdAK1nG thank you, i have a 1660 super oc. i’m intrigued
Very well explained, thank you.
Hi, I heard after disabling e cores, the p cores has more headdroom for overclock.
But I care about stock voltage and cool CPU, so can I benefit from just increasing ring ratio? Without increasing voltage.
And what's the point of increasing base clock if turbo is used on high performance mode (power plan) ?
Aren't you supposed to increase the turbo per clock? Or does turbo need to be disabled?
See if turbo reach 49, but you changed base clock to 51, doesn't this conflict? Or will turbo be redundant automatically?
Running 5ghz all p core, 4ghz all e core, 40 ring ratio @ 1.3vcore on high LLC. I've got a contact frame installed and only pushing 80-83c. Can't seem to push the chip much higher. Any minor tweaks I can try to push a little extra out of the chip?
Well, disabling the e-cores would help a lot, on the cache especially, but it could lose you performance. I’d say you’d need a delid really, but don’t expect anything higher than a truly stable 5.1/5.2
@@ImWateringPSUs I tried bumping it to 1.375 volts. I could probably find something stable but I found I could keep my original settings and bump my ring ratio to 42 which has almost given me similar multi-core performance at a much lower voltage at 1.3v still
@@ImWateringPSUs found stability on 5.0 P core, 4.1 E core and 43 ring ratio @ 1.3v
If you want to keep the e cores enabled , can you still set the ring ratios to 47 ? Also on the z690 boards, should you first select "sync all cores" or "by core " or just leave that on auto ? Before doing the other settings
Yes you can, sync all cores and be sure to subscribe to the channel :)
I would be grateful if anyone could clarify me some things! I don't have "enhanced multi-core performance" or "power limit/duration" on my mother but I have "active turbo ratios" that if manual I got to set each of the 12 cores, should I max them all instead? default they are 50 49 49 49 48 etc. Another option I have is "Turbo power limits" but inside that there are 12 options auto by default like "package power limit 1-tdp (watts)" etc etc, should I max all those as well? Also I have both options for Vcore fixed and override, which one should I choose?
You should max out all the power limits. Set the vCore to fixed and as in the video, clock wise yes, max all the P-Cores out one by one!
I followed this but 1.3v didnt work and so i changed my e-core ratio to 39 and voltage to 1.37 and still crashed... Using xtu and cpu-z, do you have bin down enabled? Going to try voltage up to 1.39 and ecores to 38 and see what happens the ring ratio is still on 40 though didn't change that. If 1.39 and ecores 38 is stable then i will do an undervolt as well
Do you recommend any settings for the B790-Plus ? Thanks for the videos.
Yessir, exactly the same as in the video!
Bro I have had my 12700k for 6 months with e cores at 4.9Ghz my p cores could only do 5.0 but like you said I've gained a .8Ghz on my ring so I'm at 4.8 there and I'm running 5.3Ghz on all p cores my temps maybe hot in cinebench r23
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Can i follow the gaming preset but still keep my E-cores enabled ? Just run the other settings i dont want to disable e-cores but i do like the other settings
Absolutely yes!
Intel turbo boost technology and enhanced turbo disables when I overclock and should I also keep hyper-threading on or off
I would personally keep Hyperthreading on as it gives you quite a big boost in performance, but the rest yes you can disable!
I overclocked my memory and this is unstable for me what would u reccomend
Never overclock memory. Use xmp only and that's the max you should have it. Overclock the cpu, not the ram
What is your cooler?
I was running a 360mm AIO
Hi, soo I have cpu clock at 52 and ring at 50 Vcore at 1.350v but for some reason my ring ratio doesn’t show it’s changed it’s stuck at 4.6mhz is this a know issue?
Be sure you changed both the min ring and max ring!
@@ImWateringPSUs in my bios it only gave me the option for max ring I didn’t have a min ring option. It’s the same board same everything only different is yours has ddr5 i have ddr4
Can you explain why i can not go higher the 48 on the p cores because it doesnt show anny higher then that
Same counts for the min max u can only go to 46
And yes i have the i7 12700K
Do you have a locked motherboard?
Should intel Adaptive Boost technology be enabled?
Yes!
i have lenovo legion t7i and dont see anything like that in bios. is there anything i can do?
I have a prebuilt-PCs-only dedicated undervolting tutorial that’s gonna come out in a few weeks! Currently working on it
I have Gskill 7200 and xmp makes it crash
When i do theese settings my pc doesnt even boot
Try 200Mhz less on the core clock
I have a gigabyte bios just like yours but the ones that have the stars by them it won't allow me to change them.
You might need to change the explore mode to advanced/expert or a similar settings!
Which memory speed i can choose if i boost the processor to 50/40/40?
I have 6000 speed on memory
6000Mhz should run fine, it’s not dependant on CPU clock speeds!
Hope someone can help I did the exact tutorial for 5.0 P cores, 4.0 E cores and LLC in the middle but during stress test it's not staying locked. It's throttling to 4.8ghz lemme know
Will this drastically hurt the lifespan of the CPU? And would an AIO be needed instead of an air cooler?
Not drastically, it really depends on the voltage. But yes you will need a good cooler or I would actually recommend my undervolting tutorial
look i just got my pc custom build
ntel® Core™ i7-12700KF can i overclock this cpu ? to the highest 5.0GHZ?
Yes you can! Follow the tutorial😇
you disabled the e cores for gaming eh? Really think its necessary?
I do find it gives out a bit better performance!
Also it cut off my keyboard is that normal?
The keyboard should work fine in the bios! But some wireless keyboards do have problems though
12th gen is better with per core overclock, this is good for pre 12th gen overclocking.
Problem with per core OC is that it’s too difficult to determine stability. I don’t want my PC to have random crashes and to fine tune it along the way. I’d rather get 100-200Mhz less in single core (4% max) and get a system that I know won’t crash tbh
My setup:
- 12700k (1.25V)
- Arctic/freezer 360 with push pull 6xP12
- z690 Aorus elite ddr4 (Last BIOS F27)
- 2x32Go DDR4 4400 Gskill royal @ 4100 18/22/22/36/1T in G1. (1.5V)
CPU parameters :
- 5.1 x8PC / 5.2 x6PC / 5.3 x4PC / 5.4 x2PC
- all Ecores @ 4100
- Uncore 4.4Ghz
- Vcore CPU: 1.25V (adaptive Vcore)
- VCCSA 1.35V
- DDR4 @ 1.5V
System rockstable under 30min OCCT ram AVX2/SSE2 (hope it will help)
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What does the x8,x6,x2 mean? Are those groups of your OC instead of a simple all core OC?
Also, sounds like you got a god bin out of the 12700K!
I have a 12700kf and I can't see some of the settings you have. My ring ratio is also capped at 46, and my performance clock ratio is capped at 50. Is the problem my cpu or is something wrong with my bios
Bios issue. Make sure you’re running the latest bios and in the “advanced” option
5.2 crashed for me with ecores off and the ring at 49 so far the ring at 49 is good tho I might go for the 50 5.1 is stable with full load cpu hits 87 c using a waterforce x 280 aio
That’s pretty good tbh! 5.2 is pretty difficult to achieve, temperature wise. I’m glad the video was helpful!
I don't understand how you 5.1GHZ guys are getting crazy temps on AIO. 87C? I'm running 5.1 on P and 4 on E with a max temp of 75C on R23. Cheap air cooler. ID Cooling SE-225-XT. And I am NOT running an undervolt. 0.030 adaptive overvolt. Same loadline setting as him, high.
@@georgebrandon7696 got to take into consideration ambient temps too. They might live in a hot environment. I keep a floor unit on at 66 degrees and max temps I've seen my cpu get was 60 at full load clocked at 5.1 on the pcores and 4.0 on the ecores
@@mrdappernature8861 12 degree higher ambient, though? My consistent room temp is around 70-72 degrees (without AC). Who runs in an 84 plus degree room for gaming?
Hermano te lo agradezco, con otro video le hice undervolt a mi grafica 3070 ya que siempre andaba sobre los 77-80c° y unos 90 fps de media en forza en calidad ultra. Ahora con el overclock del procesador voy a 70c° estables en la grafica ya que trabaja menos y 144fps en Forza 5 en ultra y el procesador ni pasa los 60c° 😂😂😂
Hello! I have intel core i7 12700kf and a 3060ti, PRIME H610M-A WIFI D4 moderboard. should i try your settings for fps boost in cs2? my bios dont looks like yours eather so how to get it like that? Good video, keep up
You need z series motherboard for overclocking … you have b series mobo you can only overclock your ram
i lost fps with e cores disabled on csgo..
That's VERY odd... you sure your other settings were left the same? I did test CS:GO again to double check and disabling the e-cores does not hinder performance, unless you have background stuff that gets now handled by the p-cores!
@@ImWateringPSUs i can't get over 5ghz tho and ring ratio only 46
@@ImWateringPSUs E-cores reduces DPC latency, even with minimal background tasks, CSGO is faster with them turned on. I NEVER disable the e-cores, including console emulators (which i get higher fps with them turned on than off despite that my 12700K has AVX512 instructions, it's a 2021 batch).
@@saricubra2867Same here... Higher fps with e-cores on. Is there anyway to keep ring clock higher than e-cores clock on Intel 12th?
@@paulotakahama Why you want to increase the ring frequency for 12th gen?
If you care about that, 13th gen is just better:
more ring frequency, more core clocks, more cache, faster memory support.
I couldn't get mine to 5Ghz no matter what I did :'v unlucky
my cpu OC @ 5000mhz Time spy gpu 18661 3dmark score / cpu 16593 score total score 18318 (with 3080RTX) my cpu non OC standaard 4700mhz time spy gpu 18581 3dmark score cpu 15972 score / total score 18136 (with 3080RTX)
my opinion, + - 300 mhz more makes almost no difference in performance, those who say they have 30 fps more in games I don't believe it
@@ExtremeMusicSpacethat’s why I’m wondering if I should keep mine undervolted at 4700mhz or keep it at 5000mhz overclocked. I only gained about 10c in heat with my build. I average around 50-60 Celsius OC and 40-50c undervolted
Personally I'd go for 4.7Ghz. 5Ghz feels nice but very often it's not worth the tradeoff. But if you subscribe to the channel you're gonna have a higher chance of achieving 5Ghz :3
Do you own a desk?
I unfortunately don’t😩
@@ImWateringPSUs You need to build you a desk. I built one from scrap material I got free from job sites (Construction)
I followed your settings and now my pc won't turn on... lol thumbs down
I think you might’ve done something wrong, it’s working for everybody else! Double check
@@ImWateringPSUs I'm not going to bother trying anymore. I just defaulted with cmos reset and turned my XMP back on. I can't fiddle around anymore seems to never work for me.
@@ImWateringPSUs It has been 11 months passed and tonight I tried to replicate everything you mentioned on the video using my laptop on the side and everything is working better and Escape from Tarkov is running at a more stable and higher framerate. Appreciate the help brother! At first I froze and had to manually reset the PC at 1.3v and then I swapped it to 1.35v and it works perfectly. I guess I got unlucky with my CPU but the Ring Ratio OC has definitely helped I decided to play it safe at 47.
Don't work
What settings did you try? Remember that you need a good cooler and that if you don’t have one it’s better to undervolt (I have a tutorial for that too)
Oops I just killed my CPU
How?
My 12700k's potential sucks 😂 cant even stay at 5.0 with no e core and ring ratio 44 and 1.3v
Im gonna try 41 and if it stable I'll lower the vcore voltage to drop temps a bit (if I'm doing it correctly😅)
Update: now stable at somewhat stable at 5.0Ghz / 40 Ring / fixed voltage crashes every time so i tried Auto voltage first
Idle voltage is like 1.36v, around 46-52c...
Now i just have to fine tune the vcore voltage to lower my cpu temp 😅
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one question why if you set the core to 50 you also using enhanced multicore?
Because it’s 50 as turbo! Not base clock .)
My oc settings 12700k p cores 5.4 ecores 4.3 ring ratio 5.0 hyperthreading disable ram 6000mhz cpu v core auto .. I just did loadline calibration to turbo .. cpu voltage is auto .. pc running stable 24 hours stress test temps 80 degree max on stresss test with Montech 360mm aio mobo z790 d ax basic one