The sad way I discovered Polaris' music was after reading the news articles on Ryan's death in June. It's heartbreaking to lose someone so young. My sincere condolences to his family, friends, and band mates 🕊
I was lucky enough to see Polaris live a few weeks back, and i can honestly say it was probably the best live performance i have seen. Jamie is a beast of a front man, and Jake compliments him perfectly! but the whole band were flawless!!
7:20 - the bands Silent Planet (Collider, Antimatter) or Invent, Animate (Heavener, Without a Whisper, Immolation of Night) might fit the bill for dissonance. You should check them out! 😅
RIP Ryan Siew. Polaris are definitely one of my favourite bands. Their music and live performances are always top tier. I've seen them live now probably like 7 times, and they never dissapoint. Thank you Justin for listening to them.
If you want metalcore with dissonant choruses (chori?) try Silent Planet, collider or antimatter. Incredible singer and beast of a drummer. Keep it up.
I'm no doubt joining many other Aussie heavy music fans here, but Polaris have been one of the stand out local acts of recent years. Devastated about Ryan, of course, but their level of professionalism when they not only completed their Australian tour after his death, but also did the European summer festival tour. Deadset legends.
Despite being more a 🎶heavy metal lover🎶😜 than a metalcore one, nice intense episode!👍... I've remembered past times when I sometimes listened to songs of this metal subgenre yeaaaaghghghghghghgg!!!🤟(written vocal fry🤣)
If you enjoy the more modern down-tuned aggressive metalcore sounds, I implore you to explore the work of Mick Gordon on the videogame soundtrack for Doom and Doom eternal. No lyrics to speak of generally, but the music is so powerful in its intent and execution that the point is clearly put across regardless. For those unfamiliar, the title track for Doom features a chainsaw (run through a synthesiser) as the lead instrument. Definitely a novel approach to making music, and it sounds absolutely phenomenal.
Viper room by Thornhill is a must check! I would love you reacting to this. Such a great sound, reminds me of old QOTSA but with a modern twist. You will love the video too. Love
I usually can't get passed these type of vocals and music but these guys Like a Version of Black Fingernails Red Wine is so god damn good. Would highly recommend if you haven't heard it
I wished I had known about Polaris before Ryan Siew's death. He was a talented guitarist who I would have wanted to see play live in concert. News articles don't disclose the cause of his death. He has mentioned on his instagram that he stopped taking anti-depressants and was recovering from brain fog in January this year. I shouldn't speculate, but my initial thoughts when I read the articles were that he may have taken his own life. It's very heartbreaking if that's the case. My heart goes out to anyone who is suffering from mental health issues ❤ Polaris' music is awesome. I need to see these guys in concert. Their Triple J performance of "Vagabond" is excellent. The lyrics in their songs really do reflect the subjects of "anxiety, depression and loss."
Saw these guys live just the other weekend at Alexandra Palace in London, just as good live They were supporting another band you should check out called while she sleeps 🤘
RIP Ryan. So glad I was able to see them live a couple years ago as a first time hearing their stuff and more recently at download. Such a brilliant group of guys.
So glad to hear someone point out the brilliance of "pre-apocalyptic wasteland"! The first time I heard it I had exactly the same reaction, it's such a clever phrase. Also you mentioned metal singers being able to maintain those fry screams on the road. I saw Polaris live about a month ago and I can confirm that Jamie reproduces these vocals flawlessly, night after night. He must have incredible technique.
I would LOVE if bring some of those details (fry scream, faster riffs...) into The Darkness and that's why I will always love this band haha great reaction ❤️🤘🏻
SIM are a heavy metal band from Japan all the songs they do are rollercoasters to enjoy just like polaris. The lead singer has amazing vocals I would highly recommend the rumbling amazing song
when it gets too soft like that the contrast is frustrating great band otherwise though, there are bands that balance heavy with non poppy melodic parts Sepultura were always good for it (original line up), now we need a really heavy band with Radiohead level chords and melodies
I always think of the choruses in these kind of songs as "the Evanescence bit". Bland minor key stuff with the same anguished held notes. Then in the 2nd verse the singer is back to shredding his vocal cords again to reassure you he's still hardcore.
Polaris has 2 vocalists actually! On their first 2 albums it's pretty much the long-haired lead singer doing all the screams, while the bassist does the clean melodic singing. On this album (their third), they overlap a bit more, with each of them doing both harsh and clean vocals at times. Though it's still mostly Jamie screaming and Jake singing, like on this song.
Periphery do that messed up dissonance bit during their melody pieces like you were talking about! Graveless and Dracul Gras is a great example! Omega as well is another great example and all the chords in the clean part are basically stacked 4ths/dissonant chords under the melody. Really evil sounding!
If you want dissonance - Cellar Door by Spiritbox. I know you've heard Jaded by them, but that's one of their much softer songs - Cellar Door is a whole different beast.
Speaking of underserved bands of the heavier ilk, I feel like mewithoutYou never got the attention they deserve. Would love to see that rectified on your massive platform ! Sadly they’ve retired now but their catalogue was so diverse, so experimental, so lyrically in its own absolute lane and just fundamentally, absolutely awesome live and on record !
Not to be confused with the band “polaris”, formed from members of miracle legion, to score the American children’s show “the adventures of Pete and Pete”. In my opinion some of the greatest children’s media ever created and “polaris” made one incredible album for the show. Mark mulcahy is an underrated talent if there ever was one.
@@Aduder999Yes, one of those solid 90's bands with song lyrics that you often couldn't understand so you'd try to fill them in with your own. But that seemed to be a characteristic of a lot of bands back then. 😄 And much of Pete & Pete was filmed only a few towns over from where I live, and I had no idea when I was watching as a kid.
Hey Justin, I'm not sure if you've done Alter Bridge, Blackbird song, but it's amazing. The Live version from Wembley Stadium is a great one. Of course I'm kind of partial to them. I try to understand why they are so much bigger in the U.K. and Europe. I think they don't get the respect they deserve in the U.S. Anyway, thank you for your channel.
It would be interesting to get your take on the new “Sprain” album “ The Lamb as Effigy” the track “Man proposes, god Disposes” really ought to knock your socks off… Cherries brother.
You should check out Dio, Rainbow with Dio, Elf with Dio, and last but not least Black Sabbath with Dio. That is the dream voice. A very close second is Scorpions Klause Meine, the before 80's Scorpions with Uli Jon Roth
@@Mark-Gillisthat comment is cringe af. Boomers listen to Elvis Presley not Scorpion. You're off by about a generation. How I hate young idiots lumping us Gen Xers in with the generation of our parents. So keep growing that beard, kiddo.
I would love to see you check out my good friends Black Stone Cherry's newest release "Nervous". Chris has one of the most powerful voices in all of rock in my humble opinion, backed up with a guitarist that I call the energizer bunny, Ben Wells who is a phenom in his own right. Couple that with wicked bass riffs by Steve Jewel and the animal himself John Fred Young on the drums. I would love to see you break down the video!
It just reminds me of Smashing myself around Quasar with my mates to Jesus Built A Hotrod. For the time that was intense Adrenalin. We always won at quasar😂
1:35 (ish): I’m hearing the intro to Halestorm’s “White Dress”. Further in the video, I’m hearing something else familiar, but my ear hasn’t found the right synapse in my brain. I’m thinking it’s reminiscent of a band I recently saw live, which is either Breaking Benjamin or Disturbed, or a mashup of both bands. Sorry my brain is overloaded with music lately, and showing its age. I recently binged Seether, and binged Alter Bridge this morning. Now _I’m_ just waffling. 😂 Justin, don’t do the screaming/growling vocals without talking with the vocalists who can sing like you do, *and* growl/scream *and* haven’t lost their voices. Did you notice that Wolf commented on your Insta post? I think it’s time you two do a podcast together.
You’d be surprised what you can do with six strings these days. My mate used to be in a band and he got endorsed by Ibanez to push the baritone model. He used to drill the holes bigger to put bass strings on the lower end. I think he had his tuning in drop f or maybe drop g, I’m not too sure.
Hoy you haven’t mentioned your 20th anniversary addition of permission to land is out on vinyl. I can’t decide between the blue disk edition and the full 5 disk edition.
Dear Justin, thanks for all your marvelous videos. Living in Switzerland, what is your opinion on the Swiss Music? I would love to hear your opinion on Swiss Rock like stuff released by Hummus records, or people like Emilie Zoe, Dirty Sound Magnets or Sooma... The Swiss Rock scene is booming from new talents and ... well what do you think of it? Cheers and thanks again.
honestly i would love to see some harsh vocals in the darkness, i think that would be sick and if you wanna hear more dissonance have a listen to lorna shore - into the hellfire
Justin, ... [Tremolo vocals...] * I think you could do it... Maybe perfectly. But I haven't heard you do it yet. [Of course you know; doing it wrong could hurt yourself. But doing it correctly is very easy... [ maybe you remember how; if I bring it up.] When you want to "tremolo your vocals; you shake your arm or leg.... Do you recall? *Yes, great effect: once -an-while... [When appropriate...] Yes tell me one sometime. Take care.
I agree with you Justin about the poppy melodic sections, not my cup of tea so to say. Maybe it’s favorably by the streaming algorithms, who knows 🤷♂️
It's just a staple of Modern Metalcore. Heavy riffs and fry scream choruses with hardcore breakdowns and gutterals, but the melodic chorus is there to bring everything back for a moment and provide a bit of relief from the screams. It's a great gateway into metal because it bridges the gap between pop punk/emo bands and the heavier Core bands that are just all screaming all the time, like Currents or Knocked Loose. Melodic choruses give a first time listener a bit of familiarity so they can be eased into heavier music. It definitely has its place and serves a purpose.
The saddest part is that the lead guitarist, Ryan Siew, passed away about a week before this music video was released 😢
The sad way I discovered Polaris' music was after reading the news articles on Ryan's death in June. It's heartbreaking to lose someone so young. My sincere condolences to his family, friends, and band mates 🕊
That sucks. 😢
RIP Ryan. When I saw the news I had a lump in my throat.
I've only discovered this band an I'm really feeling for his fans...dude is really special that's for sure
I was lucky enough to see Polaris live a few weeks back, and i can honestly say it was probably the best live performance i have seen. Jamie is a beast of a front man, and Jake compliments him perfectly! but the whole band were flawless!!
I saw them on the mortal coil tour back 2018 man its still one of my favourite albums
RIP Ryan Siew! An incredibly talented guitar player and gone way too soon at only 26 ☹️
Wow how?
Some of my favorite riffs in the world
Wow this is sick, Polaris is one of my favourite bands so it's great to see Justin make a video on them
7:20 - the bands Silent Planet (Collider, Antimatter) or Invent, Animate (Heavener, Without a Whisper, Immolation of Night) might fit the bill for dissonance. You should check them out! 😅
Great bands
Especially Silent Planet’s newer track “Antimatter”. That shit HITS
RIP Ryan Siew. Polaris are definitely one of my favourite bands. Their music and live performances are always top tier. I've seen them live now probably like 7 times, and they never dissapoint. Thank you Justin for listening to them.
Love how much everyone is celebrating Ryan’s memory 🫶🏼
Petition to get justin to buy a 7 string
If you want metalcore with dissonant choruses (chori?) try Silent Planet, collider or antimatter. Incredible singer and beast of a drummer. Keep it up.
I was going to suggest antimatter too! I haven’t heard anything quite like it, it really tickles my brain the right way
I'm no doubt joining many other Aussie heavy music fans here, but Polaris have been one of the stand out local acts of recent years. Devastated about Ryan, of course, but their level of professionalism when they not only completed their Australian tour after his death, but also did the European summer festival tour.
Deadset legends.
Best metal/core band to come out of Australia since Parkway IMO.
This band is rock solid, cheers Justin. Spot on.
Despite being more a 🎶heavy metal lover🎶😜 than a metalcore one, nice intense episode!👍... I've remembered past times when I sometimes listened to songs of this metal subgenre
yeaaaaghghghghghghgg!!!🤟(written vocal fry🤣)
Yeah but if into metal then big chance you will like most others?
Hello fellow Lowestoftian! Thanks for the the smashing content 👌
If you enjoy the more modern down-tuned aggressive metalcore sounds, I implore you to explore the work of Mick Gordon on the videogame soundtrack for Doom and Doom eternal. No lyrics to speak of generally, but the music is so powerful in its intent and execution that the point is clearly put across regardless.
For those unfamiliar, the title track for Doom features a chainsaw (run through a synthesiser) as the lead instrument. Definitely a novel approach to making music, and it sounds absolutely phenomenal.
I can’t believe you’re reacting to my favourite band would never of thought I’d see this!
Viper room by Thornhill is a must check! I would love you reacting to this. Such a great sound, reminds me of old QOTSA but with a modern twist. You will love the video too. Love
I'm looking forward to seeing thornhill again in 2 weeks time... That new riff is sick
I usually can't get passed these type of vocals and music but these guys Like a Version of Black Fingernails Red Wine is so god damn good. Would highly recommend if you haven't heard it
The heavy vocals or the singing?
Gotta be one of the all time best covers
I wished I had known about Polaris before Ryan Siew's death. He was a talented guitarist who I would have wanted to see play live in concert. News articles don't disclose the cause of his death. He has mentioned on his instagram that he stopped taking anti-depressants and was recovering from brain fog in January this year. I shouldn't speculate, but my initial thoughts when I read the articles were that he may have taken his own life. It's very heartbreaking if that's the case. My heart goes out to anyone who is suffering from mental health issues ❤
Polaris' music is awesome. I need to see these guys in concert. Their Triple J performance of "Vagabond" is excellent. The lyrics in their songs really do reflect the subjects of "anxiety, depression and loss."
I was privileged to see one of his last shows with the band in Hobart TAS earlier this year. Hell of a show. Ryan was amazing. It’s so fucking sad
@@juttaman25 😥🫶
A very thoughtful and entertaining analysis.
Love Justin! What a legend, showing underground bands to the mainstream audience
You should listen to more Jinjer songs than Pisces. Home Back, Teacher Teacher or Vortex should be more like what you are describing
I thought, your waffling is quite high quality, and this music was not that bad. Soothing, in a way.
Saw these guys live just the other weekend at Alexandra Palace in London, just as good live They were supporting another band you should check out called while she sleeps 🤘
Was a great gig! Polaris will be headlining UK next time for sure
thanks for covering this justin :)
RIP Ryan. So glad I was able to see them live a couple years ago as a first time hearing their stuff and more recently at download. Such a brilliant group of guys.
So glad to hear someone point out the brilliance of "pre-apocalyptic wasteland"! The first time I heard it I had exactly the same reaction, it's such a clever phrase.
Also you mentioned metal singers being able to maintain those fry screams on the road. I saw Polaris live about a month ago and I can confirm that Jamie reproduces these vocals flawlessly, night after night. He must have incredible technique.
Great shirt Justin
Invent Animate's new album heavener has what you're looking for with more dissonance. I highly recommend that album
Harrrrrd agree with this, stunning album.
I'm glad you pointed out the stabs thing Justin an I love your ear dude..I find the stabs innovative and very tasteful.
Beautiful shirt Justin....
Man, I hate metalcore, but I always appreciate the videos, Justin!
What is it about Metalcore that you hate?
Glad you love the music and the music video mate! 🎉
I would LOVE if bring some of those details (fry scream, faster riffs...) into The Darkness and that's why I will always love this band haha great reaction ❤️🤘🏻
Loving seeing you react to heavier music. I think this song is in drop G.
I do know what you mean, the reason I can't get into this style of music is cos if the "BoyBand Sections" that's what I've always thought of it as.
Love the shorter haircut on you Justin. Makes you look younger.
Love your channel my friend 🤩
So glad I got to see Ryan at one of his last gigs with Polaris in Hobart before he left this world. So fucking sad.
SIM are a heavy metal band from Japan all the songs they do are rollercoasters to enjoy just like polaris. The lead singer has amazing vocals I would highly recommend the rumbling amazing song
when it gets too soft like that the contrast is frustrating great band otherwise though, there are bands that balance heavy with non poppy melodic parts Sepultura were always good for it (original line up), now we need a really heavy band with Radiohead level chords and melodies
I used to hate that contrast, now I love it, just part of tastes and changing.
Hey Justin .. watched an interview yesterday .. Psionic Audio .. Dave Friedman was talking you up ..
That sound you're thinking of is Porcupine Tree. Really exciting harmony in the melodic parts. I guess Opeth too, to an extent
YES. I BEEN Waiting FOR POLARIS
Polaris Riff's are crazy good, they been my favorite band for a long time, I'm glad they finally get the attention they deserve 🙌
Polaris are the best! One of my favourite bands. Rip Ryan, gone too early ❤
Love them! Mind blowing band.
far out your vocabulary is so good. "dissonance" - never heard of that word before, but now i do ☺
I had a shirt like that once 😊
Killer shirt. Agree about the soft spots. ✔️
I always think of the choruses in these kind of songs as "the Evanescence bit". Bland minor key stuff with the same anguished held notes. Then in the 2nd verse the singer is back to shredding his vocal cords again to reassure you he's still hardcore.
Polaris has 2 vocalists actually! On their first 2 albums it's pretty much the long-haired lead singer doing all the screams, while the bassist does the clean melodic singing. On this album (their third), they overlap a bit more, with each of them doing both harsh and clean vocals at times. Though it's still mostly Jamie screaming and Jake singing, like on this song.
Periphery do that messed up dissonance bit during their melody pieces like you were talking about! Graveless and Dracul Gras is a great example! Omega as well is another great example and all the chords in the clean part are basically stacked 4ths/dissonant chords under the melody. Really evil sounding!
474,000🎉🎉🎉
If you want dissonance - Cellar Door by Spiritbox. I know you've heard Jaded by them, but that's one of their much softer songs - Cellar Door is a whole different beast.
Almost set the controls for the heart of the sun at start
I Highly recommend listening to Masochist! Especially the second verse is insanely good!
Speaking of underserved bands of the heavier ilk, I feel like mewithoutYou never got the attention they deserve. Would love to see that rectified on your massive platform ! Sadly they’ve retired now but their catalogue was so diverse, so experimental, so lyrically in its own absolute lane and just fundamentally, absolutely awesome live and on record !
Not to be confused with the band “polaris”, formed from members of miracle legion, to score the American children’s show “the adventures of Pete and Pete”. In my opinion some of the greatest children’s media ever created and “polaris” made one incredible album for the show. Mark mulcahy is an underrated talent if there ever was one.
💯 I love that album. Waiting for October is a tune! Plus Pete & Pete was such a good show!
@@Aduder999Yes, one of those solid 90's bands with song lyrics that you often couldn't understand so you'd try to fill them in with your own. But that seemed to be a characteristic of a lot of bands back then. 😄
And much of Pete & Pete was filmed only a few towns over from where I live, and I had no idea when I was watching as a kid.
@@glennwelsh9784 maan! You could've been an extra on Pete & pete
Hey Justin, I'm not sure if you've done Alter Bridge, Blackbird song, but it's amazing. The Live version from Wembley Stadium is a great one. Of course I'm kind of partial to them. I try to understand why they are so much bigger in the U.K. and Europe. I think they don't get the respect they deserve in the U.S. Anyway, thank you for your channel.
Twisted headphone cord = OCD explosion here...
Great tune.
It would be interesting to get your take on the new “Sprain” album “ The Lamb as Effigy” the track “Man proposes, god Disposes” really ought to knock your socks off… Cherries brother.
You should check out Dio, Rainbow with Dio, Elf with Dio, and last but not least Black Sabbath with Dio. That is the dream voice. A very close second is Scorpions Klause Meine, the before 80's Scorpions with Uli Jon Roth
Ok, Boomer
@@Mark-Gillisthat comment is cringe af. Boomers listen to Elvis Presley not Scorpion. You're off by about a generation.
How I hate young idiots lumping us Gen Xers in with the generation of our parents. So keep growing that beard, kiddo.
Woof!
Mm, I wish I could sing like that
Not everything's singing, you know
The only important thing these days is rhythm and melody
You need to check out malevolence
Fantastic band!
I would love to see you check out my good friends Black Stone Cherry's newest release "Nervous". Chris has one of the most powerful voices in all of rock in my humble opinion, backed up with a guitarist that I call the energizer bunny, Ben Wells who is a phenom in his own right. Couple that with wicked bass riffs by Steve Jewel and the animal himself John Fred Young on the drums. I would love to see you break down the video!
RIP Ryan Siew
May he find peace
This music is great. But I was really hoping it would be about the band that did the soundtrack to the Adventures of Pete & Pete.
Linkin park vibes. faint
The Muse intro was quite good.
I hear the next DARKNESS album is going full metal-core!
You should listen to Between The Buried And Me, Converge and Ne Obliviscaris and also Fit For An Autopsy. The quieter sections aren't that "poppy".
prong's releasing a new album this month, apparently.
we need to get Justin checking out some Code Orange
It just reminds me of Smashing myself around Quasar with my mates to Jesus Built A Hotrod. For the time that was intense Adrenalin. We always won at quasar😂
1:35 (ish): I’m hearing the intro to Halestorm’s “White Dress”.
Further in the video, I’m hearing something else familiar, but my ear hasn’t found the right synapse in my brain.
I’m thinking it’s reminiscent of a band I recently saw live, which is either Breaking Benjamin or Disturbed, or a mashup of both bands.
Sorry my brain is overloaded with music lately, and showing its age. I recently binged Seether, and binged Alter Bridge this morning.
Now _I’m_ just waffling. 😂
Justin, don’t do the screaming/growling vocals without talking with the vocalists who can sing like you do, *and* growl/scream
*and* haven’t lost their voices.
Did you notice that Wolf commented on your Insta post? I think it’s time you two do a podcast together.
I call it sing songy metal. ...Love it and then the "nice bit" turns me off kind of.
Phoenix show was amazing as always
You’d be surprised what you can do with six strings these days. My mate used to be in a band and he got endorsed by Ibanez to push the baritone model. He used to drill the holes bigger to put bass strings on the lower end. I think he had his tuning in drop f or maybe drop g, I’m not too sure.
Hoy you haven’t mentioned your 20th anniversary addition of permission to land is out on vinyl. I can’t decide between the blue disk edition and the full 5 disk edition.
Dear Justin, thanks for all your marvelous videos. Living in Switzerland, what is your opinion on the Swiss Music? I would love to hear your opinion on Swiss Rock like stuff released by Hummus records, or people like Emilie Zoe, Dirty Sound Magnets or Sooma... The Swiss Rock scene is booming from new talents and ... well what do you think of it? Cheers and thanks again.
Give Pray for Rain a chance from their previous album, the poppy sounds have more grit.
Hi Justin! We’re a band from Sheffield, do you have any tips on recording for us? Our demos are up on our channel. Cheers man we love ya!! ❤
The next metal core band you should check out is bury tomorrow, a good song to go for would be abandon us or heretic
honestly i would love to see some harsh vocals in the darkness, i think that would be sick and if you wanna hear more dissonance have a listen to lorna shore - into the hellfire
Really great band.
Justin, the shirt, where can i get it 😆 i want it
Hi Justin, I would love to hear your thoughts on the incredible duo Crown Lands. Have you heard them yet?
RIP Ryan ❤️🤍🖤
Justin, ... [Tremolo vocals...] * I think you could do it... Maybe perfectly. But I haven't heard you do it yet. [Of course you know; doing it wrong could hurt yourself. But doing it correctly is very easy... [ maybe you remember how; if I bring it up.] When you want to "tremolo your vocals; you shake your arm or leg....
Do you recall? *Yes, great effect: once -an-while... [When appropriate...] Yes tell me one sometime. Take care.
6:50 Itaca: they fear us?
I feel like you should listen to Invent Animate - Without A Whisper now.. very progressive and emotive
That opening riff is a Strokes riff.
He’s the Sam Kinneson of vocalists.
They are awesome
If u want intense, I recommend the band Better Lovers 👍
I’ve been listening to them a lot recently. I found their ep on my iPod he other day after, somehow, forgetting about it being on there.
Not sure if you e done electric callboy but they are amazing nice mix of techno and metal plus the videos are funny as fuck.
I agree with you Justin about the poppy melodic sections, not my cup of tea so to say. Maybe it’s favorably by the streaming algorithms, who knows 🤷♂️
It's just a staple of Modern Metalcore. Heavy riffs and fry scream choruses with hardcore breakdowns and gutterals, but the melodic chorus is there to bring everything back for a moment and provide a bit of relief from the screams. It's a great gateway into metal because it bridges the gap between pop punk/emo bands and the heavier Core bands that are just all screaming all the time, like Currents or Knocked Loose. Melodic choruses give a first time listener a bit of familiarity so they can be eased into heavier music. It definitely has its place and serves a purpose.
When will The Darkness play Malaysia?
R.I.P. Ryan...
I LOVE Polaris 😅😅