If I had a dollar for every time I’ve been called arrogant, I’d have enough money to think about a whole bunch of business ideas but never execute on them 😂
Oh admit it, you never actually need those dollars to think of those business ideas. Chances are, they're also partly a reason to your arrogance cause you subconsciously know your brilliant mind is rife with untapped business ideas already. Nope, you won't have a hard time thinking them just as you don't have a hard time breathing but executing them is another matter entirely, dollar or no 😉
It's not arrogance when you're right and you acknowledge it. I tell my INTP when he's right and when he's not because he deserves to be recognized. Well, I will tell him when he's wrong if it ever happens 😂 -INFJ (hopelessly devoted to my XNTP's.
When I was a kid, people used to ask me random questions out of curiosity (mostly about scientific phenomenon). I would say something like, "I don't know, but I would guess..." and explain my hypothesis. But I started noticing that no matter how carefully I prefaced my conjecture, people acted as if my answer were gospel truth. I suddenly realized that people would believe almost anything I said without verifying or even doubting. And all of a sudden I felt an *immense* burden on my shoulders... to make sure everything I said was as accurate as possible because no one else was going to do the research to double-check my answer. If you go into any kind of medical field, you will literally have lives in your hands depending on your knowledge. That power you have becomes greater, and thus so too does the responsibility you have to wield your word wisely. I often try to instill this sense of responsibility for accuracy in others, but I'm usually met with defensiveness and resistance and accusations that I'm being too strictly principled and insistence that most conversations are "not a big deal." They say "you know what I mean!" to which I say, "Say what you mean (and mean what you say)" -- otherwise your word means nothing and without that, you have nothing. It's hard for me to imagine being any other way. The rare moments where I've repeated something matter-of-factly and been proven wrong, I was horribly embarrassed. I actually legitimately have a hard time believing the inaccuracy problem persists into adulthood for most INTPs, but perhaps it depends on how small (and thick) your "bubble" is. ❇️
Omg the first week of third grade the teacher used to ask the class multiple choice questions and you would raise your hand when she said the option that you thought was correct. Once the other students realized I was “the smart one” a lot of them would wait to see when I raised my hand before raising theirs. I remember how much more pressure that put on me to be right and it kept me from just guessing. Then one day when I answered incorrectly, it caused us all to get it wrong... it was so painful 😣 But there was one student that rose his hand against my answer... I gained so much respect for him but also he became my instant nemesis 🤣
It took me some time, (quite some time), to realise that people often WERE following the advice I gave because, in some cases, to me, their actions did not look like they were following my advice - either they had interpreted what I said in a way I had not foreseen was possible or, at times, I had just missed that this is what they were doing. What you said about research is true though, (as I have found myself(, because, even when prefaced with something like, "I am no expert, but it looks to me like... ," many people still have a greater tendency to take the information blindly and run with it. And the consequences are potentially... well, terrible.
I got bored not being mentally stimulated so I'd just make stuff up to see what people would believe I got pretty good at lying lol but really the only time I fact check is when I'm interested in a story and I'm fact checking that's how I learned about the Milwaukee protocol
That sucks. I was extremely dishonest up till a few years ago. Now I'm ruthlessly honest and get super pissed when I see dishonesty in others, and don't care how important they are or how much influence they have, I can have a fit if someone is constantly lying to me, especially if it's them trying to manipulate me. As an infp, if someone tries manipulating me with Fi or Fe hero, good f***ing luck. I will rip their mask off in front of everyone.
Genuinely, thank you. All this time I've been stuck in this loop of thinking I'm unintelligent and then being bitter for being taken advantage of by other people. This has given me the confidence and motivation to research everything even more than I already did and not openly reject other people's perspectives or opinions in subtle arrogance. What a change in thought! This was truly invaluable advice.
The INTP's being guilted is so true. My last ex actually bullied and guilted me a couple times into having sex when I wasn't in the mood/dead tired from work. Me, a 5'11" 170lb man, being bullied by a tiny 5 foot 95lb lil asian woman 😂. The relationship lasted like 6 months and I was miserable! I was so dedicated to a lil monster lol
It is interesting the type of martyrs that ENTPs and INTPs are in stories and also fairly common in real-life INTPs tend to be white martyrs and ENTPs tend to be red martyrs or in other words INTPs bear life (suffering) and ENTPs bear death.
As an INTP who went to university and graduated with a degree in electrical engineering, I don't think it is a good idea to encourage INTPs to not attend college. While there may be things wrong with American college, it is one of the few things I can point to and unequivocally say that it has helped define my success in life. I have a strong career, I was able to attract an amazing ENTJ fiancé, and I was able to get over many of my bad habits including perpetual laziness and lack of social interactions. Telling all the INTPs watching this video to not worry about going to university may just be giving them one more excuse to not better their lives. And INTPs do not need more excuses to be lazy, we are plenty good at that on our own. The reality is that for the best jobs and most successful careers in America, you need to have a college degree. Yes, there are plenty of good jobs you could list that you don't need a degree. And of course there are exceptions like Mark Zuckerberg who did not even graduate. But if I did not go to college, I would probably still be at home wasting away in my parents basement playing video games all day. I was not about to invent the next Facebook. So please rethink this approach you take with other INTPs. College may not be for everyone, but for many it is life defining.
@@malindaeckert2300 I was fortunate enough to have had supportive parent's who sent me to a private high school with an engineering program. Through this, I was exposed to Electrical Engineering. There was nothing else in life I really wanted to be and the financial stability of an engineering degree really attracted me to the field. I ended up tinkering with and really enjoying electronics and computers going through the program. And when a university came to my high school and highlighted their highly paid internship programs (with major companies) as a way to help pay for college, it sealed the deal. I owe a lot to the hand I was dealt in life. I feel lucky to have had that early opportunity or else I have no idea where I would be today.
I don't understand his logic there either. Most of the people I know who didn't go to college are scraping by, mainly because they're relying on temp services for work. College should be encouraged, as long as the student knows to stay away from a degree in liberal arts.
Although what you said is entirely right, i'm not sure if this only applies to me however, when I hear Chase talk on this I didn't think i'm being told to not go to College or University but rather to embrace your ability to learn whatever you want on your own because as an INTP you have the natural tools to do so. An example could be an Electrical Engineer by career which you went to school for but a backyard mechanic by way of youtube video's and other research. This ability is then enhanced when helping somebody else such as helping a friend develop an APP when you initially had no idea how, you would figure it out. Or becoming a Dietitian by way of helping somebody with a smaller type health issue. By helping you also gain focus, self confidence, and more knowledge and to some other comments on here, this is a bit of its own reward when not receiving as much recognition as you'd like.
@@forkymental5154 I didn’t understand either. The thing is you Don't have to take every word from him as the universal truth. Everyone has differenf situation. Its better to understand your own situation and come up to the right solution of your particular problem. But, i would suggest INTP's to learn alone and go to University to earn a degree but not to learn. You should go to University for degree but to learn you should self study and relay on your own intelligence.
"Insanely stupid kind of binging that INTPs end up doing" Oops. That's what I'm doing right now. I better get back to studying for my two math tests tomorrow . . .
After seeing the difference between an INTJ and an INTP it's clear that I'm an INTP. I will say that I think my fashion style is pretty fantastic. I feel I've always had a good fashion style thanks to my mother. Over the years I've really evolved it into my own.
INTP here. This spoke to me very deeply. You are doing a huge service for everyone on here. I’m proof. Thank you so much. It’s time for me to get back out there. The world needs me.
To INTP’s, reading books by Nassim Taleb will help. Books such as The Black Swan (talks about the problem of induction, will improve your Ne) and Antifragile (talks about how failure/stress is helpful in a person since we are organic, non-static beings; will improve Si child, will help you take courage but explains (gives you reasons) in a very INTP fashion). These are books under the category of Philosophy, Business, and Economics. As an INTP, I am lucky to have read these in my early 20’s as it greatly improves one’s maturity. Thanks Chase.
I appreciated all the advice but I did not hear a lot about cognitive transitions. In a lot of the earlier episodes regarding the cognitive transitions I was so interested in how the types transitioned to the 4 sides of their minds. The ENTJ episode was great, the INFJ episode was great and I literally did watch every single one up unto this point which made me very excited for months on end to hear this lecture but when I heard this I had to listen to it twice just to make sure I was properly focused and still came to the same conclusion. So I am going to overcome my Fe inferior and say I was disappointed. Not because the advice wasn't good but because it didn't seem like it was about the cognitive transitions. Don't get me wrong I love CS Joseph's content and I will even go so far to say I like this video because there is a lot of truth in it. I can resonate with a lot of this stuff and one big thing I took away was that I need to ask for things in return so as not to be manipulated but this wasn't what I expected.
C.S. Joseph appreciate the free content with very valuable info but there was barely anything on ENTJ side nothing new heard on ESFJ side not much mentioned on ISFP side relative to earlier lectures in the season talking about the 4 sides the info we’re looking for is what are the cognitive transitions of INTPs that should be in the video called “what are cognitive transitions for INTPs” not some other season.
I really resonate with this comment because I watched this video hoping to understand how an INTP can use their subconscious the ESFJ and their unconscious ENTJ...
Late 20's INTP man here, thank you. The term "covert contract" describes the attitude I have sometimes encountered with Chinese culture, in which reciprocity for any help is assumed, and not to reciprocate is to damage your reputation. If you aren't prepared to reciprocate, you have to forcefully prevent the other person from giving you the help they are offering, leading to the ubiquitous struggles over who pays the bill at restaurants.
What I love about Chases videos is that you can learn about your own type in almost all of his videos even if he doesn’t necessarily zoom-in into your own type! It’s incredibly interesting, especially the cog. transition series. It’s all so connected, and truly enjoyable to learn about. Keep it up! -an entj
I am a grown man and almost cried listening to this. You gave me words to describe my problems. I feel "comfortable" watching life pass me by because I don't feel respected by anyone including myself. But you gave me hope for the future. I want to be in a leader or advisor role and support other people. About covert contracts: My previous relationship (with an INFP) was a complete lie. She had been evicted and I let her stay at my place. She confessed her love to me and I pretended to love her back, because I couldn't bear to tell her the truth, plus she was suicidal so I pitied her. I was passive-aggressive throughout the "relationship" and it was horrible for us both. About manipulation: Yes, we can be easily guilted, but we are also good at turning the submissive role into martyrdom and make others feel guilty in return. Letting someone disrespect us just to gain ammunition to hit them back later. It's shitty, but it comes from feeling too guilty to set boundaries. About feeling dumb: Never trust an INTP who says they feel dumb, run away. It's concealed arrogance. "We both know I am smarter than you, so if I don't live up to my standards, then you certainly don't". About hero myths: Analyzing my childhood fantasies, they looked like action movies, but I imagined a supporting role for myself. Not the hero with the sword, but the "elder" who gives the sword to the hero. About Malthusianism: I went through this phase at age 12, I felt the world was overburdened by people who didn't understand or appreciate me. About healthy Fe: I feel the most happy when I play with children, or lead social activities at work, etc. I turn into an ESFJ but less rigid.
As an INTP, this is why I love helping people - you get to learn more while helping them (thus creating interest), and everyone feels better for that Fe satisfaction. Better for society as a whole if our mission is to help people do things that we are good at!
Ding ding ding. As an intp, I just recently figured this out. Being smart is good, being smart and using it to help/serve others, is far more rewarding.
I've watched every single cognitive transitions video. Granted I only got the motivation to do it when I suspected people I've met are that type and I got curious about them.
Chase roasting INTPs. I'm like, "Should I be mad or anything? The man's roasting INTPs and here I am just nodding and thinking, am I really like that?" Edit. On the bitterness part... damn. Hit me so hard.
Yes. I've been destroyed by bitter abusive crusaders who were in turn abused by someone else. Please don't be that person who takes their pain out on innocent people who actually have good intentions. The pain you guys inflict is permanently destructive and not in a good way.
@@felixthecat2786 you do realize that you can be destroyed only if you let it? So unless you were a child you cannot say that someone else destroyed you. You standing on firm grounds is your responsibility. So please revisit that.
Alexandra Nánai-Hutton we can be really mean sometimes. I said things to others in the past that I regret. All because I was butthurt. INTPs usually know the pressure points of others, where it hurts most. The amount of damage I caused to that person was just too much and caused a trauma. Instead of accepting and letting go, I wanted revenge.
Chase, without the incredible amount of work and heart you put into what you do, I would not have the vocabulary nor the opportunities to engage with anyone on these topics, and I need that very much. Thank you. Best wishes.
These cognitive transition videos are amazing. Like an open letter to all the 16 types. It would be interesting to see a “Cognitive Transitions Part 2” now that you have learned more about cognitive origin and temple wheels. Cheers!
I know i have complained a lot about you rambling or going off on tangets but now i want to thank you for it. They provide me with the essential time i need to process the useful information and helps me understand and remember better. your lecture help me become the person i should be. I will forever be grateful❤
Seriously you are amazingly informative and insightfully detailed! I’m going through one of my longest rock bottom I think in my life; your tough love and strait forward approach ignited a long overdue feeling of interest and drive. I’ve been lacking motivation, passion and been stuck in indifference for an eternity it feels 🙄 I am sure I’m speaking for many, you are so greatly appreciated and a priceless contribution to the collective!
The real reason why INTPs talk about overpopulation is because it makes them feel altruistic for not wanting kids or not being ready to take on the responsibility of bringing a new life into the world. 😅
An INTP who is like myself aware of a single contradictary fact wouldn't be talking about that though. From a transhumanist standpoint we have no idea how much technology will accelarate in 40 or 50 years so it's too early to tell if overpopulation would even be a problem.
Heather Bryant, I disagree - it's cute reasoning, but I still disagree. The reason why people, (INTPs included), talk about overpopulation of the world is because it is a logical extension of the fact that there are limited resources, there is limited suitable space to live in and because the environment that we presently rely upon for food, water and breathable air, (amongst other things), is in an equilibrium that allows the population to obtain these necessities relatively freely. It is perceivable that if the population continues to increase, (which it will unless something changes), that at some point there will no longer be an equilibrium which is likely to be catastrophic for any population still reliant upon the environment for these resources. At which point a lot of the life on the planet will die. It is also perceivable that the human race will discover a method of circumventing such an outcome. However, in the past, (as far as we know), this has not happened on this planet and presently we are more reliant on our environment than most people appear to want to think about. It is also perceivable that despite environmental disaster that some percentage of the population will survive, (this has happened in the past), and the human race will be set to start again, 'wondering like children,' as Plato heard Socrates and his visitor discuss.
Ne & Si types usually get put in poor circumstances, which leads to poor epigenetics; to me at least that's a more important issue, I have other Ne & Si users tell me mistruths to have kids, and that is even worse in my humble Fi-child opinion.
I'm watching this lecture because two of my closest friends are INTP's, as you've said on INFJ videos is that our purpose is to make others better than ourselves. so I'm at trying to create my NP wolf pack. Your videos are pretty much spot on when I run the findings by them and they inform me that I'm pretty much right. 😊👌
Hey, 17year-old female INTP here, I have a question for you Joseph. You say we should state our expectations on getting recognition for the help we provide. Personally, I don't always ask for something in return when I help someone, but I have realized I do become bitter (especially to members of my family) when I realize I haven't or aren't getting the respect and love I need, when my advice hit a wall and I eventually feel like talking to them is just a waste of time since my thoughts don't matter anyways. How can you ask someone to respect you without sounding like you see yourself as superior? Isn't the fact that you are asking in the first place a proof that you are not humble? Also I really enjoy and wish I could help people in a daily basis (that's one of the reasons I want to study psychology) but in the environment I am currently in, I am quite isolated. The only people I could try and help are my own parents but my fear of the intense emotions that will come with doing such a thing keeps me completely paralyzed. And so I am stuck in my own little world, my comfort zone. Sorry for the long comment, you might not even be able to answer my rambling, but I'll just finish saying that I came to your channel to finally try and learn how people work and I think your lectures (even while you sometimes go off topic) have really helped me have a better understanding both of myself and other types. Thank you for the effort you put into your work, really. Last thing, I would really love to watch a video on the stages that INTPs go though to get from immaturity to maturity, I believe I am still quite an immature INTP I would love to learn what my potential could be and how I actually can get there.
Hey, almost 36 yr old INTP here. So I'd like to give some insight from what I have seen, hope that is okay. I don't think that advice per se to family and or friends should have any reward, ever. I mean, those are just thoughts. Everybody has thoughts and advice (other types even more I'd say, you know the more chatty ones by default). Now if you are being disconsidered always for the advice you are giving, but you see that others' is not reaching deaf ears then I would say to step up and yes state how you feel and how that response makes you feel and all. If you do that, you might discover some reasons that you could not think of. But if you don't do that then 100% you will regret it but will be too caught in the apathetic circle to come back out. Now, let me tell you what I did in high school. Besides my Ti hero existant by that time I had gone through severe trauma as well in earlier years so I was a cuckoo (I might still be). So perfect recipe of outsider, outcast, weirdo, not seen, wanting people around but just lacking skills on how to do it, paired with severe social anxiety. So what I did was once not being true to myself and wearing all sticky too bright colours belly out clothes plus heavy makeup every day(it was the early 2000s lol) and second since in 9th grade I came out 1st in thr English championship (I lived in Romania) 90% of the class asked me to revise and correct their English homeworks. We werr an English bilingual class, so we had English every day, a very good but extremely tough teacher so there you go. And I did that all the time in all the breaks in high school. I did not eat, hardly went out to the yard. And why? To be seen. To fit in somehow. To make them see that hello I am here too. You invite for a walk/bday party/etx the person next to you (who is even not doind anything for you, talks about you behind your back etc) but you don't invite me, ever. So yea that is what happened, my classmates making plans all the time just a few centimeters away from me, while me correcting their homeworks and never ever included me, they even forgot to greet me in the hallways. I was ashamed to say hello I am here. Also that hello I like doing this for you guys but I'd like some giving back at times. Basic stuff like you include me from time to time. Me not stating what I need in exchange for my services was a big mistake. Of course then I knew nothing and was afraid of breathing even so yea. But that unfortunately shaped me in a way that I know that could have been you know..other..more optimized from a social perspective. Also stop saying you dont need people in case you say it, even mentally. Yes all INTPs reading this please stop saying that. You know that is a big lie, maybe the biggest one you have been telling yourself. You need people like air. You need them to be needed, to give but to feel needed for that. I have been lying to myself most of my life and it is not cool. Time passes, the skills go undeveloped, I hardly have any idea how to make it happen now and not totally freak out in the process. Now where advice should come for a price: in professional services or where you are going in way deeper and need to find a solution that is custom made for example. The latter in the family/friends world.
@@lexyh-p8r thank you for sharing. I went through a similar phase of feeling completely outcasted and unseen in pre high school and ended up slowly dropping most of my friends because I felt I wasn't heard in the situation. I did manage to finally get over that super difficult phase all on my own, but as you said, since we do really need people it did take much more time than it should had ever taken. When I wrote that question yesterday to tell you the truth I was rambling a but cause I hadn't realized what is the core problem for me rn. But a few hours ago I just had an epiphany about the whole family thing, so I'm quite positive that during my next talk with my psychologist I'm going to do the most progress I've ever made in understanding what is happening. Thank you for opening your heart and sharing your experience, it's really heartwarming to see that there are people that have gone through similar situations and have managed to overcome them. I hope you have a nice day!
Honestly alot of this development you talk about is really helped by getting into customer based work and getting used to interacting with people they always say on different websites for intps not to get into this type of work but I did and it has helped me immensely social skills need to be developed for us introverted types.
I feel so called out by this video. But I need to hear this stuff. I'm an INTP who has been mistyping himself as an INTJ for years. I only recently had an aha moment where everything clicked in my mind that I'm an INTP. One thing I will say, is that every ITNP should become familiar with Jordan Peterson. Peterson is the figure that kicked my ass out of apathy mode and inspired me to take responsibility for my own goddamn life. Peterson is the savior of the broken the beaten and the damned (Props if you get both references). In the past 4 years I have done more with my life than the previous 28 combined, I was so limited by my own echo chamber of self-perception. Once an INTP gets that kick in the ass, we become a force of nature.
INTP - I really like the lecture, especially the harsh truths! As well, I have noticed that when I do things for myself, I can get lost in details and tangled in the webs of my thoughts, but whenever I help others, I feel a lot better, understand things more clearly, and flourish in ways which were previously unimaginable to me. I have poured myself into people in the wrong way for a long time, and never learned about boundaries until the past few years. It's so shocking to see how different things can be when self-awareness dawns.
@@NamedMyTaco hahaha! That will be a little unusual for me being a chick but I'll like, bring a beer to pretend to drink and I dunno.. something heavy to lift while I watch 😅 oh man I crack myself up
@@MagikForTheMAsses Totally do that lol! Just feed into. Sit with your legs open, drink a beer, pump some iron and be awed by the Geopolitical consequences of some teens gaining their independence and fighting for the freedom of Mars!
I don't limit videos to my type. I'm an INTP, but as I meet other types I have a framework to hang these concepts on. I have a great female friend that's an ESFJ, an ex-wife that's ISFJ, an ISFP gf, an INFP coworker and INFP and INFJ barista friends that discuss MBTI with me weekly. Knowing yourself is only half the battle in communication.
That belief in what others say about us, in my experience, comes from us valuing what others believe in. I've been in that loop for most of my life--dispossesed. But then I've also been on the opposite end of the spectrum where I see everyone else as stupid.
Finally. I tried to type someone,and I was really seeing the Ti but being a Te user the Ti appeared to me as hella irrational so I ended up trying to type him for like two years or so because I thought that Ti hero is in no way shape or form irrational.
@@ryanbrowne6651 definitely agree on the overthinking thing. Ti overthinking tends to move past the practicality-real world likelihood of something, and gets so glued to the "shoulds" of things, drives me nuts, because I'm over here Te-ing like, but its NOT that way, so.. forget about how it should be, because this is how it _IS_ ...lol
The problem with helping people is that many people don't even want to be helped, so we are kind of confused in that way, cuz we don't know how to approach them. Or better to say, it's hard for us to recognize what is that that those peope need. I've been hurt many times by trying to help others in this way, so I just retreat
I wish I knew these valuable information when I was a kid. Man, this video is like slapping my face at the same time from side to side!!😂 Thank you for pointing out these valuable information, now we can easily learn them through a systematic approach, if not which we'll have to learn through the hard way.
Man, I was about to comment on the invalidity on the ENTJ and how theyre like the rapiest of all the types, until I remembered one of my ENTJ friends saw a girl, listened to her convo, deduced she was in a dance club, and found her dance club and her @ in about 5-10 minutes! That was the weirdest thing I've ever experienced in my life (of course, he had no ill intentions). Crazy shit happens with ENTJs, I tell ya.
Similarly, INFPs need to verify their feelings "am I right to feel this way and judge that person ? " My ENTJ mom always tells me what she believe is true and never cared for my 'lala land' At first I was enraged, cocky, victimising myself, self pitying, wishing I was born inJapan (hahahaha ouf look at this silliness) But then I wanted to adabt, I was so done with not being able to endure mom's critisism ! That's when it clicked Mom have always been right, if I was just mature enough to listen then I'd have realized that MUCH sooner
Thank you for another great lecture. I really appreciate your channel and what you're trying to accomplish. Almost every negative aspect you covered in this video I admit to having when I was a teen up to mid-20s - call it my 'lost decade'. The remedies you suggest make a great deal of sense. We're very prone to self-apathy (and self-loathing), and I've found developing boundaries with others, as you've detailed in the Fe part of this lecture, is a must. Turning immature Si comfort-addiction into commitment to self-discipline has also greatly helped me recently. I see you're focusing on the gateway functions for these lectures, although each function has potential to identify immaturities to be fixed. No More Mr Nice Guy by Robert Glover was a great read too - heard about it on one of your other lectures. Sound quality was good all the way through; nice shot of the waterfall too. :)
This was like, the most personally attacking/offensive thing I’ve ever watched but absolutely 100% true god damn lol. Probably the most important advice I’ve ever gotten from a TH-cam video
Wow you were on point with this one. I got to the point of being so afraid of being called out by people saying that I was actually dumb and just acting intelligent that I started speaking and acting like someone who doesn't put thought into their words/actions. I literally became afraid of intelligence itself yet I sought it out in ppl. Brb gotta work on that now lol
I just recently realized something. I thought my mom was ENFJ, but I realized she is ESFJ. How did I make this mistake? When she puts something in her head she is a force of nature " and believe me I'm not exaggerating " she will and did move mountains. So I thought: a well Ni parent, makes sense, until I realized that she did this things because it was her duty and it was necessary for the loved ones in her life. The realization is : Si is just as powerful as Ni, so that is what we should practice. Duty and discipline, what is your cross through life? And I don't think you chose it, cose be honest with yourself, you know what it is, life pushed it on you. Take it, and go. What do you see that others don't, and you understand is paramount. This is your cross. And yes she is Initiating Movement, Crusader ( will die if you pin her to bed and craves to move like crazy and doesn't care how many times will take, always Initiating, Tons of covert contracts, think of all before self and everything should be fair , and Will talk your face off that I think about it, and in a informative way too.)
It is amongst one of my greatest honors to be burned by this video. Great stuff, I've been waiting for this video for months. People have always gotten strangely mad at me for helping my husband achieve his dreams instead of being a #independantwomanwhodontneednoman, so I'm glad to know that this is actually a good thing for me (as long as I'm not getting screwed over of course).
I appreciate you calling me out. Truth hurts, but a bunch in here I needed to hear. I only realized I was smart in this last year, just always thought everyone around me was a dumbass. I found that JKD lacked an emphasis on footwork, and was one of the few styles that worked better for smaller and quicker people. I have trained to fight for over 30 years, and one of the biggest things I have seen is that the style and school only go so far. The real success is from the individual, not the style. I know you read these periodically, check out the channel Hard 2 Hurt, Mike is on point and then some
While I appreciate the information, opinions and perspectives presented, I’m a bit disappointed. The majority of this was covered in Who are the INTPs and How to Social Engineer INTPs. I was hoping for a more systematic overview of function and process. That said, thank you for doing what you do. I hope your health continues to improve and that the personal transitions you are navigating prove beneficial and bountiful.
Watching you years ago talking about covert contracts really helped me. I realized I was guilty of making covert contracts all the time with my wife (and everyone). Sometimes I thought they were even obvious but she didnt. I have since always tried to make my desired outcome known. It has helped. However most of the other negatives you talk about for intps havent been issues with me for many years. But damned covert contracts man, getting better but they creep up everywhere. Somethines ikk start feeling idk anger or resentment or something and trace the feeling back to some damned make believe contract. Even when I realize it and most of the resentment fades it doesnt all fade.
@@gustavo789ful ye i feel like we have the realest love from all type it so spiritual we just put the our lovers in our on iittle world and we dont care about sex or even seeing the perosn we just appreciate them for making us feel this weird feeling of hope in other person like after you feel this feeling may say maybe we aint do such a terrible work after all
@@joni-nv3el That's it, I'm having this spiritual vibe, imagining future scenarios and past moments that I had with her, She's gone at february 2020, and I lost all the contact, She's ESFP enneagram 2, or even ENTJ type 7 it can be similar and I'm INTP type 5.. so it's a golden pair or at least a bronze pair, I loved her Se-Fi you know? She stimulated my mind and at times, she could drag me out of my thoughts, so I could feel alive, experiencing that present and real moment.
@@gustavo789ful yes i feel you bro i had the same thing with enfj girl was so nice to me but when i offer her she had boyfriend and it was really odd i was 14.5 years old ( now 17)when i usk her i told her if she want to be my girlfriend and she did laughed and asked if I was serious then said she had a friend (who by the way that was my childhood friend from age 7-13) since sometimes still hurts me to think about it and not recovered this experience did not offer anyone after that and I do not find the solution to it before 2 months she asked me if I still loved her and did not know what to say and now I'm afraid to talk to her again and always gets on my memories from the last time (first and last time in my life asking a girl to go out) during the three years those two girls started with me one esfp did not go well that is not wanted to do sex with a virgin and a second infj I rejected it because I tried to understand how her mind works and she pressed it to be right now and I panicked and runaway
INFJ here trying to understand INTPs because I'm very drawn to their logic and rationale, and I feel (said no INTP ever xD) there's a lot to understand about them as they tend to be very misunderstood and under appreciated. Anyway, all of your videos are so informative and have helped me loads understanding INTPs. I think you're an ENTP and I love the way you explain things (getting passionate, it's riveting), I also get some laughs out of your sense of humour hehe.
What you said in the beginning Chase isn't true. 😂 I watch the other types so I can understand others and help those closest to me that are struggling. As an intj I feel that I need to verify that information so I can best help them. Helping them teachs me about myself and it also allow me to show others that I value them. I find INTP to be very cute! I wish I could see things the way they do.
I find it a shame that INTPs would be considered the 'least respected' of all types of men, when they really have so much to offer to the world, but I can understand why they are viewed that way just based on the way things play out a lot of the time, and also because I think they don't fit into the standard masculine stereotypes (key word stereotypes) that are generally expected of men, by men and other women, and because we just don't play most of the games that many other people are perfectly happy to what seems like to us, sell their soul to, or that are 'fake' or just social facades. It can seem like the world is a big party that we weren't invited to, and that no one wants us to be at, and that probably, we just need to choose how we want to participate in and stop giving our power away to the things that we actually don't really value that much... not that we have a problem with it, but we HATE being forced to participate in things that don't suit us. It's why we go into self-suicide mode because we would rather self-suicide than to be forced to be a part of something that, well... we already know where it's going to go, meaning... people desperately trying to get us to open up, but when we do, getting lambasted for no reason that we can understand, and feeling it viscerally in a way that other people just seem used to and are okay with, but to us, it's not okay at all. I'm not defending shitty behavior, and can INTPs be pathetic, weasely, snobbish, codependent, self-defeating, indignant, selfish, gluttonous, apathetic, disconnected people before they really come into their truth and power? Absolutely, yes, but if that's how INTPs are or have been at times, hopefully we will do everything in our power to eat ourselves alive while not making it anyone else's problem if that's what it comes down to... but of course, like you keep reiterating, it will eventually become a problem for everyone else at some point. I think a major key for INTPs to get out of this rut, is to give themselves more permission sometimes to really look at and understand, but very importantly, not accept at face value or force ourselves to tolerate, all of the things we that we absolutely loathe about society and how people can be, and that we have very good reasons for loathing, but which appear to us to be completely accepted, validated, encouraged, or just basically ignored to keep the games going. Because we actually have a really strong ability to compartmentalize and accept it, and not entertain it, we just don't like being poked at by people who really have no ability to understand us at the end of the day. It's just part of our perspective sometimes and nothing that we really want to project onto anyone, but just, based on what has been projected onto us and internalized based on misunderstandings... but it is up to us to help the world understand itself (along with ENTPs, INFJs, etc...). I think we need to allow it to piss us off and to drive us, and to accept our feelings about it, if that's what it comes down to, so that we can channel them productively, because if we can't even accept this, we have no chance of transmuting it, one way or the other. And it's actually pretty easy for us to realize what it comes down to, but still, INTPs like a lot of introverted types have a very pronounced fear of rejection and being misunderstood. I know or have met plenty of 'functional' INTPs who are completely out of touch with this side of themselves, and have learned to operate somewhat well in the world with no glaring issues per say, but they are not being completely authentic either so they're not fully in their power. All in all, I feel like INTPs are that secret weapon that has a very deep and innocent childlike ability to really care about everyone, but there is a serious reason why INTPs need enough of their own space, as long as they use it well and don't degenerate into nothingness. INTPs want to make the world better for everyone, but their way of doing so from a childlike perspective, as much as it's often so needed, is just as often overlooked, diminished, and not justifiably disrespected or nourished in my opinion, which leaves us feeling like we have to clean up other people's messing before realizing it's our own mess, and then realizing we never needed to do anything but give it to ourselves first. It's a SERIOUS dilemma no doubt which at our worst becomes Si child just wanting to feel good sometimes but creating it's own hell, and within our type, there is a more drastic polarity than I think a lot of other types have, in terms of having Ti hero and Fe inferior, but all types have this in their own way. There is something very pronounced about it if we are, as all types, to try to full integrate it and stay balanced amidst chaos.
Yeah, I have some of the problems, The binging is a huge problem to me although the "people pleaser and nice guy" is not. But I think that's a problem altogether because since a child I was instilled with the belief that I had nothing to offer to help anyone, so I don't think I've ever actually started developing my Fe well.
Best salespitch ever. C.S.: "I recommend to watch videos about other types. If you dont, you run the risk of being ignorant" INTPs: *spends the rest of the week bingewatching ALL videos on the channel*
Being INTP, I watched other type personalities too, when I see comments and realise no one is interested in other but about themselves, that's where your knowledge gets limited, and you become ignorant and narcissist. I love to know how others feel, wanna understand their mind too. Isn't it interesting?
Wen you take responsibility for a problem that isn't yours and you didn't create, you have to make it so that people won't be able to exploit you. Once you set a bad example it is very hard to set a boundary again. Words don't mean anything after that. Generosity is always punished. Example: My siblings don't do their chores, the dishes are still not cleaned and I want to eat dinner. I can: - Only clean just the stuff I need. (Not take responsibility) They'll call me an asshole but I can live with that. They're just angry at me for not playing into their bullshit. - Do the dishes. (take responsibility) They will from now on use my preference to their advantage. They might even create more work by not reusing glasses... The only way around it is by punishing them in some way for not doing the dishes. This option requires leverage, which means I have to sacrifice leverage I could have used in a better situation. - Not eat I'll go hungry. Not much to say about this, it sucks. It's true that there are many nice people around but you have to think about the assholes too. If you only do nice stuff for close friends that's fine and a reasonable boundary to set for yourself. If I was a better judge of character I wouldn't have to use silly tactics all the time but I'm not.
I love the background. That's the one thing that I had liked about living in the mountains such as WV, Washington State, and even the western part of NC. However, unfortunately, I didn't care much for the towns themselves.
I think helping other people rather helps my Si to surpass diffculties than my Ti. I am also pretty brilliant just thinking for my self - or even more then - but I need others to put it to good cause and surpass adversities. So practically I can reach more, but my theoretical potential stays the same.
I like to understand all types so that I can better understand humanity. My sister types as intp and she likes to hide from society. She has done this so much that at one point, she lived as a home steadier. She also doesn't trust anyone.
Te users come to the wrong conclusions because their Ti is weak. But what's the point of strong Ti if your input of Te is terrible? I see this in INFJs all the time. High Ti and shitty conclusions due to lack of Te. Garbage in garbage out. Te users can atleast detect high Ti users and use their logic for verification. It's hard to say who is actually more ignorant Te or Ti, but Ti is by far more arrogant. That's why I often say to my ESTP brother that he is the dumbest smart person I know.
I'm wondering if a person can change his/her personality type over the years or you'll stay the same for the rest of your life? I hear so many people say they change bc of nature/nurture and some say you dont, you're probably just mistyped?
Hi sorry I’m late! No your type never changes your maturity and how you access the other 3 sides of your mind does change and therefore how your type behaves and comes across
As an INTP here is the problem to me. This is why we are perceived as apathetic. There is no such thing as absolute truth. There's relative truth and that's it. Without the security of truth it's hard to be confident and move forward
Dopamine detox is really a necessary thing for Si childs. sometimes i can lay down on my bed and listening to music whole day and doing nothing at all.
"Dopamine detox" is the new "juice detox". It's some nonsensical trendy internet thing that is not supported by science. Your brain produces dopamine naturally and if you suffer from depression chances are your antidepressant contains a dopamine reuptake inhibitor (so that you retain more of the dopamine your brain produces). Getting rid of dopamine would f*ck you up both physically and mentally. The only way to "overdose" on dopamine is to snort coke daily, and even then it's not the dopamine that would be problematic in such an instance.
Hi Chase! I hope you are better every day and appreciate all your efforts, truly! I am also a student of UMF and the Fast Track to it, have been using it and it helps in my business. I just mention that to let you know that my intention is learning, and willing to pay for it (the reason is that I am not in the other memberships is that it is very unclear for me what they cover). So here are my questions/insights/kind requests regarding this lecture. I have been binge consuming your materials (well yup caught me lol, but maybe this is good type of binging , the hunger for knowledge). I have listened to all lectures where the intps were mentioned, the sides of the mind, the functions. Plus other cognitive transitions, the quadras, etc. Now although binging can be a setback, from my experience it is where the best lines of thoughts and new ideas are also born. Like the mind is put on a kind of pause and then the ideas can start forming slowly in the background and then emerge "out of nothing". Possibly the same type of mechanism as you being most focused when doing other stuff at the same time. Now to be honest I heard nothing new in this lecture. It seems to be focused on the severely immature INTPs, solely. I have observed myself and retrospectively have seen myself shifting to esfj, entj, isfp kind of all the time on a daily basis. That is kind of a given. But if we are already aware, if we are on the out of immaturity (although because of my life I think I have become a mature financially and by responsibilities even earlier than "normal") then how do we keep the pathways open? How do we stabilize them? Also in the triple systematic part you seem to leave out 2 questions by which we check. At least that is the impression. I heard as if ennumeration followed, then the 1st question was said, then never heard the following two. Might have misunderstood, but just to know for sure. Last but not least, the big issue here is the INTP women thing. Yes it does not fit the archetype of what a woman "should be" and it does not even if we act super esfj like. My experience is: even if act super warm giving Fe (and I was a wife too and loved to be, also I am a mother) , still because at the same time we are abstract and well..witty smart we are still pushed behind, still labelled. It is as if only men were allowed to be abstract, to be interested in stuff that are traditionally male things and in fact if you are a woman you better not think! I live in Eastern Europe and maybe my issues have greater applicability here. I mean, much of me is my mind, my solutions and stuff I can bring to the world and share those in an active Fe mode, but seems that just because of having a female body that is also a kind of guarantee that I am not desirable for who I am truly. Another question, Ne parent was not mentioned. Is that on purpose? Thank you.
@@CSJoseph when will season 19 be available again in paid form? From what I understand from support team is that it is not at all at the moment. Thank you!
I was almost romance conned by a filipina. Good thing I could see through her BS. She was "showering" affection and pretending to be in love with me, but she was not of any emotional support. So, I cut her out altogether.
Hoodie - you're even dressed INTP for this one.
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Good one!
Am INTP
Wow... I love my hoodie!!!
Glad he’s not wearing glasses too!
If I had a dollar for every time I’ve been called arrogant, I’d have enough money to think about a whole bunch of business ideas but never execute on them 😂
Oh admit it, you never actually need those dollars to think of those business ideas. Chances are, they're also partly a reason to your arrogance cause you subconsciously know your brilliant mind is rife with untapped business ideas already. Nope, you won't have a hard time thinking them just as you don't have a hard time breathing but executing them is another matter entirely, dollar or no 😉
It's not arrogance when you're right and you acknowledge it. I tell my INTP when he's right and when he's not because he deserves to be recognized. Well, I will tell him when he's wrong if it ever happens 😂
-INFJ (hopelessly devoted to my XNTP's.
The INXPs must utilize their Si child to cope with being the last in line for type specific videos
Yes, it's been killing me
Yes🙂
Hahaha!! Omg so true and we’re the ones wanting them the most
I used it... By watching old videos about my type 😄
When I was a kid, people used to ask me random questions out of curiosity (mostly about scientific phenomenon). I would say something like, "I don't know, but I would guess..." and explain my hypothesis. But I started noticing that no matter how carefully I prefaced my conjecture, people acted as if my answer were gospel truth. I suddenly realized that people would believe almost anything I said without verifying or even doubting. And all of a sudden I felt an *immense* burden on my shoulders... to make sure everything I said was as accurate as possible because no one else was going to do the research to double-check my answer. If you go into any kind of medical field, you will literally have lives in your hands depending on your knowledge. That power you have becomes greater, and thus so too does the responsibility you have to wield your word wisely. I often try to instill this sense of responsibility for accuracy in others, but I'm usually met with defensiveness and resistance and accusations that I'm being too strictly principled and insistence that most conversations are "not a big deal." They say "you know what I mean!" to which I say, "Say what you mean (and mean what you say)" -- otherwise your word means nothing and without that, you have nothing. It's hard for me to imagine being any other way. The rare moments where I've repeated something matter-of-factly and been proven wrong, I was horribly embarrassed. I actually legitimately have a hard time believing the inaccuracy problem persists into adulthood for most INTPs, but perhaps it depends on how small (and thick) your "bubble" is. ❇️
Omg the first week of third grade the teacher used to ask the class multiple choice questions and you would raise your hand when she said the option that you thought was correct. Once the other students realized I was “the smart one” a lot of them would wait to see when I raised my hand before raising theirs. I remember how much more pressure that put on me to be right and it kept me from just guessing. Then one day when I answered incorrectly, it caused us all to get it wrong... it was so painful 😣 But there was one student that rose his hand against my answer... I gained so much respect for him but also he became my instant nemesis 🤣
It took me some time, (quite some time), to realise that people often WERE following the advice I gave because, in some cases, to me, their actions did not look like they were following my advice - either they had interpreted what I said in a way I had not foreseen was possible or, at times, I had just missed that this is what they were doing.
What you said about research is true though, (as I have found myself(, because, even when prefaced with something like, "I am no expert, but it looks to me like... ," many people still have a greater tendency to take the information blindly and run with it. And the consequences are potentially... well, terrible.
I got bored not being mentally stimulated so I'd just make stuff up to see what people would believe I got pretty good at lying lol but really the only time I fact check is when I'm interested in a story and I'm fact checking that's how I learned about the Milwaukee protocol
i did/do this same thing!!
That sucks. I was extremely dishonest up till a few years ago. Now I'm ruthlessly honest and get super pissed when I see dishonesty in others, and don't care how important they are or how much influence they have, I can have a fit if someone is constantly lying to me, especially if it's them trying to manipulate me. As an infp, if someone tries manipulating me with Fi or Fe hero, good f***ing luck. I will rip their mask off in front of everyone.
Genuinely, thank you. All this time I've been stuck in this loop of thinking I'm unintelligent and then being bitter for being taken advantage of by other people. This has given me the confidence and motivation to research everything even more than I already did and not openly reject other people's perspectives or opinions in subtle arrogance. What a change in thought! This was truly invaluable advice.
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The INTP's being guilted is so true. My last ex actually bullied and guilted me a couple times into having sex when I wasn't in the mood/dead tired from work. Me, a 5'11" 170lb man, being bullied by a tiny 5 foot 95lb lil asian woman 😂. The relationship lasted like 6 months and I was miserable! I was so dedicated to a lil monster lol
It is interesting the type of martyrs that ENTPs and INTPs are in stories and also fairly common in real-life INTPs tend to be white martyrs and ENTPs tend to be red martyrs or in other words INTPs bear life (suffering) and ENTPs bear death.
As an INTP who went to university and graduated with a degree in electrical engineering, I don't think it is a good idea to encourage INTPs to not attend college. While there may be things wrong with American college, it is one of the few things I can point to and unequivocally say that it has helped define my success in life. I have a strong career, I was able to attract an amazing ENTJ fiancé, and I was able to get over many of my bad habits including perpetual laziness and lack of social interactions. Telling all the INTPs watching this video to not worry about going to university may just be giving them one more excuse to not better their lives. And INTPs do not need more excuses to be lazy, we are plenty good at that on our own.
The reality is that for the best jobs and most successful careers in America, you need to have a college degree. Yes, there are plenty of good jobs you could list that you don't need a degree. And of course there are exceptions like Mark Zuckerberg who did not even graduate. But if I did not go to college, I would probably still be at home wasting away in my parents basement playing video games all day. I was not about to invent the next Facebook. So please rethink this approach you take with other INTPs. College may not be for everyone, but for many it is life defining.
what was your motivation to go to college. How did you decide that?
@@malindaeckert2300 I was fortunate enough to have had supportive parent's who sent me to a private high school with an engineering program. Through this, I was exposed to Electrical Engineering. There was nothing else in life I really wanted to be and the financial stability of an engineering degree really attracted me to the field. I ended up tinkering with and really enjoying electronics and computers going through the program. And when a university came to my high school and highlighted their highly paid internship programs (with major companies) as a way to help pay for college, it sealed the deal.
I owe a lot to the hand I was dealt in life. I feel lucky to have had that early opportunity or else I have no idea where I would be today.
I don't understand his logic there either. Most of the people I know who didn't go to college are scraping by, mainly because they're relying on temp services for work. College should be encouraged, as long as the student knows to stay away from a degree in liberal arts.
Although what you said is entirely right, i'm not sure if this only applies to me however, when I hear Chase talk on this I didn't think i'm being told to not go to College or University but rather to embrace your ability to learn whatever you want on your own because as an INTP you have the natural tools to do so. An example could be an Electrical Engineer by career which you went to school for but a backyard mechanic by way of youtube video's and other research. This ability is then enhanced when helping somebody else such as helping a friend develop an APP when you initially had no idea how, you would figure it out. Or becoming a Dietitian by way of helping somebody with a smaller type health issue. By helping you also gain focus, self confidence, and more knowledge and to some other comments on here, this is a bit of its own reward when not receiving as much recognition as you'd like.
@@forkymental5154 I didn’t understand either. The thing is you Don't have to take every word from him as the universal truth. Everyone has differenf situation. Its better to understand your own situation and come up to the right solution of your particular problem.
But, i would suggest INTP's to learn alone and go to University to earn a degree but not to learn. You should go to University for degree but to learn you should self study and relay on your own intelligence.
"Insanely stupid kind of binging that INTPs end up doing"
Oops. That's what I'm doing right now. I better get back to studying for my two math tests tomorrow . . .
After seeing the difference between an INTJ and an INTP it's clear that I'm an INTP. I will say that I think my fashion style is pretty fantastic. I feel I've always had a good fashion style thanks to my mother. Over the years I've really evolved it into my own.
INTP here. This spoke to me very deeply. You are doing a huge service for everyone on here. I’m proof. Thank you so much. It’s time for me to get back out there. The world needs me.
To INTP’s, reading books by Nassim Taleb will help. Books such as The Black Swan (talks about the problem of induction, will improve your Ne) and Antifragile (talks about how failure/stress is helpful in a person since we are organic, non-static beings; will improve Si child, will help you take courage but explains (gives you reasons) in a very INTP fashion). These are books under the category of Philosophy, Business, and Economics. As an INTP, I am lucky to have read these in my early 20’s as it greatly improves one’s maturity. Thanks Chase.
Also munger speeches
How is life John. Still thriving?
I appreciated all the advice but I did not hear a lot about cognitive transitions. In a lot of the earlier episodes regarding the cognitive transitions I was so interested in how the types transitioned to the 4 sides of their minds. The ENTJ episode was great, the INFJ episode was great and I literally did watch every single one up unto this point which made me very excited for months on end to hear this lecture but when I heard this I had to listen to it twice just to make sure I was properly focused and still came to the same conclusion. So I am going to overcome my Fe inferior and say I was disappointed. Not because the advice wasn't good but because it didn't seem like it was about the cognitive transitions.
Don't get me wrong I love CS Joseph's content and I will even go so far to say I like this video because there is a lot of truth in it. I can resonate with a lot of this stuff and one big thing I took away was that I need to ask for things in return so as not to be manipulated but this wasn't what I expected.
Yup actually same here.
To get more info on what you are looking for its in Season 19.
C.S. Joseph appreciate the free content with very valuable info but there was barely anything on ENTJ side nothing new heard on ESFJ side not much mentioned on ISFP side relative to earlier lectures in the season talking about the 4 sides the info we’re looking for is what are the cognitive transitions of INTPs that should be in the video called “what are cognitive transitions for INTPs” not some other season.
I really resonate with this comment because I watched this video hoping to understand how an INTP can use their subconscious the ESFJ and their unconscious ENTJ...
I really feel like you drifted from the title a lot...
Late 20's INTP man here, thank you. The term "covert contract" describes the attitude I have sometimes encountered with Chinese culture, in which reciprocity for any help is assumed, and not to reciprocate is to damage your reputation. If you aren't prepared to reciprocate, you have to forcefully prevent the other person from giving you the help they are offering, leading to the ubiquitous struggles over who pays the bill at restaurants.
What I love about Chases videos is that you can learn about your own type in almost all of his videos even if he doesn’t necessarily zoom-in into your own type! It’s incredibly interesting, especially the cog. transition series. It’s all so connected, and truly enjoyable to learn about. Keep it up! -an entj
I am a grown man and almost cried listening to this. You gave me words to describe my problems. I feel "comfortable" watching life pass me by because I don't feel respected by anyone including myself. But you gave me hope for the future. I want to be in a leader or advisor role and support other people.
About covert contracts: My previous relationship (with an INFP) was a complete lie. She had been evicted and I let her stay at my place. She confessed her love to me and I pretended to love her back, because I couldn't bear to tell her the truth, plus she was suicidal so I pitied her. I was passive-aggressive throughout the "relationship" and it was horrible for us both.
About manipulation: Yes, we can be easily guilted, but we are also good at turning the submissive role into martyrdom and make others feel guilty in return. Letting someone disrespect us just to gain ammunition to hit them back later. It's shitty, but it comes from feeling too guilty to set boundaries.
About feeling dumb: Never trust an INTP who says they feel dumb, run away. It's concealed arrogance. "We both know I am smarter than you, so if I don't live up to my standards, then you certainly don't".
About hero myths: Analyzing my childhood fantasies, they looked like action movies, but I imagined a supporting role for myself. Not the hero with the sword, but the "elder" who gives the sword to the hero.
About Malthusianism: I went through this phase at age 12, I felt the world was overburdened by people who didn't understand or appreciate me.
About healthy Fe: I feel the most happy when I play with children, or lead social activities at work, etc. I turn into an ESFJ but less rigid.
Infj blocked me cause I wouldn't stop giving her advice
In my community everyone says "I helped you and you're still complaining ? Are you even serious ?! "
I OFFICIALLY INVITE ALL INTPs TO MY COUNTRY
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As an INTP, this is why I love helping people - you get to learn more while helping them (thus creating interest), and everyone feels better for that Fe satisfaction. Better for society as a whole if our mission is to help people do things that we are good at!
Ding ding ding.
As an intp, I just recently figured this out. Being smart is good, being smart and using it to help/serve others, is far more rewarding.
INTP here thank you. You have changed my life.
I've watched every single cognitive transitions video. Granted I only got the motivation to do it when I suspected people I've met are that type and I got curious about them.
The views in this video are beautiful. such a pleasure for my eyes.
Chase roasting INTPs.
I'm like, "Should I be mad or anything? The man's roasting INTPs and here I am just nodding and thinking, am I really like that?"
Edit. On the bitterness part... damn. Hit me so hard.
Yes. I've been destroyed by bitter abusive crusaders who were in turn abused by someone else. Please don't be that person who takes their pain out on innocent people who actually have good intentions. The pain you guys inflict is permanently destructive and not in a good way.
@@felixthecat2786 you do realize that you can be destroyed only if you let it? So unless you were a child you cannot say that someone else destroyed you. You standing on firm grounds is your responsibility. So please revisit that.
Alexandra Nánai-Hutton we can be really mean sometimes. I said things to others in the past that I regret. All because I was butthurt. INTPs usually know the pressure points of others, where it hurts most. The amount of damage I caused to that person was just too much and caused a trauma. Instead of accepting and letting go, I wanted revenge.
Chase, without the incredible amount of work and heart you put into what you do, I would not have the vocabulary nor the opportunities to engage with anyone on these topics, and I need that very much. Thank you. Best wishes.
C.S Joseph: “I like walking in the rain” Also C.S Joseph: “I’ve been sick, very sick” I wonder why
Rain makes you sick? What kind of rain you got over there?
@@Welsh_Veteran_420_Z lmao walking in the rain especially when it’s cold makes you more susceptible to catching a cold.
@@Faith-lh9in That's actually a myth...
@@Welsh_Veteran_420_Z nope the myth is that rain makes you sick. Walking in the rain whilst it’s cold out weakens your immune system.
@@Faith-lh9in source? 🙂
These cognitive transition videos are amazing. Like an open letter to all the 16 types. It would be interesting to see a “Cognitive Transitions Part 2” now that you have learned more about cognitive origin and temple wheels. Cheers!
I know i have complained a lot about you rambling or going off on tangets but now i want to thank you for it. They provide me with the essential time i need to process the useful information and helps me understand and remember better. your lecture help me become the person i should be. I will forever be grateful❤
Seriously you are amazingly informative and insightfully detailed! I’m going through one of my longest rock bottom I think in my life; your tough love and strait forward approach ignited a long overdue feeling of interest and drive. I’ve been lacking motivation, passion and been stuck in indifference for an eternity it feels 🙄 I am sure I’m speaking for many, you are so greatly appreciated and a priceless contribution to the collective!
You are most welcome, don’t give up
The real reason why INTPs talk about overpopulation is because it makes them feel altruistic for not wanting kids or not being ready to take on the responsibility of bringing a new life into the world. 😅
An INTP who is like myself aware of a single contradictary fact wouldn't be talking about that though.
From a transhumanist standpoint we have no idea how much technology will accelarate in 40 or 50 years so it's too early to tell if overpopulation would even be a problem.
Yea this stereotype is quite hurtful. Especially for INTPs that have kids. That is a major lesson and they are missing out a lot by not having.
interesting
Heather Bryant,
I disagree - it's cute reasoning, but I still disagree. The reason why people, (INTPs included), talk about overpopulation of the world is because it is a logical extension of the fact that there are limited resources, there is limited suitable space to live in and because the environment that we presently rely upon for food, water and breathable air, (amongst other things), is in an equilibrium that allows the population to obtain these necessities relatively freely. It is perceivable that if the population continues to increase, (which it will unless something changes), that at some point there will no longer be an equilibrium which is likely to be catastrophic for any population still reliant upon the environment for these resources. At which point a lot of the life on the planet will die.
It is also perceivable that the human race will discover a method of circumventing such an outcome. However, in the past, (as far as we know), this has not happened on this planet and presently we are more reliant on our environment than most people appear to want to think about.
It is also perceivable that despite environmental disaster that some percentage of the population will survive, (this has happened in the past), and the human race will be set to start again, 'wondering like children,' as Plato heard Socrates and his visitor discuss.
Ne & Si types usually get put in poor circumstances, which leads to poor epigenetics; to me at least that's a more important issue, I have other Ne & Si users tell me mistruths to have kids, and that is even worse in my humble Fi-child opinion.
I'm watching this lecture because two of my closest friends are INTP's, as you've said on INFJ videos is that our purpose is to make others better than ourselves. so I'm at trying to create my NP wolf pack.
Your videos are pretty much spot on when I run the findings by them and they inform me that I'm pretty much right. 😊👌
Hey, 17year-old female INTP here, I have a question for you Joseph. You say we should state our expectations on getting recognition for the help we provide. Personally, I don't always ask for something in return when I help someone, but I have realized I do become bitter (especially to members of my family) when I realize I haven't or aren't getting the respect and love I need, when my advice hit a wall and I eventually feel like talking to them is just a waste of time since my thoughts don't matter anyways.
How can you ask someone to respect you without sounding like you see yourself as superior? Isn't the fact that you are asking in the first place a proof that you are not humble?
Also I really enjoy and wish I could help people in a daily basis (that's one of the reasons I want to study psychology) but in the environment I am currently in, I am quite isolated. The only people I could try and help are my own parents but my fear of the intense emotions that will come with doing such a thing keeps me completely paralyzed. And so I am stuck in my own little world, my comfort zone.
Sorry for the long comment, you might not even be able to answer my rambling, but I'll just finish saying that I came to your channel to finally try and learn how people work and I think your lectures (even while you sometimes go off topic) have really helped me have a better understanding both of myself and other types. Thank you for the effort you put into your work, really.
Last thing, I would really love to watch a video on the stages that INTPs go though to get from immaturity to maturity, I believe I am still quite an immature INTP I would love to learn what my potential could be and how I actually can get there.
Hey, almost 36 yr old INTP here. So I'd like to give some insight from what I have seen, hope that is okay. I don't think that advice per se to family and or friends should have any reward, ever. I mean, those are just thoughts. Everybody has thoughts and advice (other types even more I'd say, you know the more chatty ones by default). Now if you are being disconsidered always for the advice you are giving, but you see that others' is not reaching deaf ears then I would say to step up and yes state how you feel and how that response makes you feel and all. If you do that, you might discover some reasons that you could not think of. But if you don't do that then 100% you will regret it but will be too caught in the apathetic circle to come back out.
Now, let me tell you what I did in high school. Besides my Ti hero existant by that time I had gone through severe trauma as well in earlier years so I was a cuckoo (I might still be). So perfect recipe of outsider, outcast, weirdo, not seen, wanting people around but just lacking skills on how to do it, paired with severe social anxiety. So what I did was once not being true to myself and wearing all sticky too bright colours belly out clothes plus heavy makeup every day(it was the early 2000s lol) and second since in 9th grade I came out 1st in thr English championship (I lived in Romania) 90% of the class asked me to revise and correct their English homeworks. We werr an English bilingual class, so we had English every day, a very good but extremely tough teacher so there you go. And I did that all the time in all the breaks in high school. I did not eat, hardly went out to the yard. And why? To be seen. To fit in somehow. To make them see that hello I am here too. You invite for a walk/bday party/etx the person next to you (who is even not doind anything for you, talks about you behind your back etc) but you don't invite me, ever. So yea that is what happened, my classmates making plans all the time just a few centimeters away from me, while me correcting their homeworks and never ever included me, they even forgot to greet me in the hallways.
I was ashamed to say hello I am here. Also that hello I like doing this for you guys but I'd like some giving back at times. Basic stuff like you include me from time to time. Me not stating what I need in exchange for my services was a big mistake. Of course then I knew nothing and was afraid of breathing even so yea. But that unfortunately shaped me in a way that I know that could have been you know..other..more optimized from a social perspective.
Also stop saying you dont need people in case you say it, even mentally.
Yes all INTPs reading this please stop saying that. You know that is a big lie, maybe the biggest one you have been telling yourself. You need people like air. You need them to be needed, to give but to feel needed for that. I have been lying to myself most of my life and it is not cool. Time passes, the skills go undeveloped, I hardly have any idea how to make it happen now and not totally freak out in the process.
Now where advice should come for a price: in professional services or where you are going in way deeper and need to find a solution that is custom made for example. The latter in the family/friends world.
if oyu want recognition, you better ask for it. If you dont ask then its your own fault
Stages of immaturity to maturity is season 19 and that will be made available at a later date.
@@CSJoseph thank youuu
@@lexyh-p8r thank you for sharing. I went through a similar phase of feeling completely outcasted and unseen in pre high school and ended up slowly dropping most of my friends because I felt I wasn't heard in the situation. I did manage to finally get over that super difficult phase all on my own, but as you said, since we do really need people it did take much more time than it should had ever taken.
When I wrote that question yesterday to tell you the truth I was rambling a but cause I hadn't realized what is the core problem for me rn. But a few hours ago I just had an epiphany about the whole family thing, so I'm quite positive that during my next talk with my psychologist I'm going to do the most progress I've ever made in understanding what is happening.
Thank you for opening your heart and sharing your experience, it's really heartwarming to see that there are people that have gone through similar situations and have managed to overcome them. I hope you have a nice day!
Honestly alot of this development you talk about is really helped by getting into customer based work and getting used to interacting with people they always say on different websites for intps not to get into this type of work but I did and it has helped me immensely social skills need to be developed for us introverted types.
This video just broke my binge cycle, and I actually cleaned my dungeon while listening.
I feel so called out by this video. But I need to hear this stuff. I'm an INTP who has been mistyping himself as an INTJ for years. I only recently had an aha moment where everything clicked in my mind that I'm an INTP. One thing I will say, is that every ITNP should become familiar with Jordan Peterson. Peterson is the figure that kicked my ass out of apathy mode and inspired me to take responsibility for my own goddamn life. Peterson is the savior of the broken the beaten and the damned (Props if you get both references). In the past 4 years I have done more with my life than the previous 28 combined, I was so limited by my own echo chamber of self-perception. Once an INTP gets that kick in the ass, we become a force of nature.
INTP - I really like the lecture, especially the harsh truths! As well, I have noticed that when I do things for myself, I can get lost in details and tangled in the webs of my thoughts, but whenever I help others, I feel a lot better, understand things more clearly, and flourish in ways which were previously unimaginable to me. I have poured myself into people in the wrong way for a long time, and never learned about boundaries until the past few years. It's so shocking to see how different things can be when self-awareness dawns.
You are not just at risk of being ignorant if you only watch the videos for your own type, you are Guaranteed to be.
I am an INTP with 11 children. I do binge as you describe.
Toonami was the dopest back in the day. Now I'm gonna go binge on this gundam orphan blood or whatever lol
Iron blooded orphans?
Right after you binge these videos haha
It's very good. Prepare yourself for a lot of manly, bro feelings.
@@NamedMyTaco hahaha! That will be a little unusual for me being a chick but I'll like, bring a beer to pretend to drink and I dunno.. something heavy to lift while I watch 😅 oh man I crack myself up
@@MagikForTheMAsses Totally do that lol! Just feed into. Sit with your legs open, drink a beer, pump some iron and be awed by the Geopolitical consequences of some teens gaining their independence and fighting for the freedom of Mars!
I don't limit videos to my type. I'm an INTP, but as I meet other types I have a framework to hang these concepts on. I have a great female friend that's an ESFJ, an ex-wife that's ISFJ, an ISFP gf, an INFP coworker and INFP and INFJ barista friends that discuss MBTI with me weekly. Knowing yourself is only half the battle in communication.
INTP... currently binging C.S.Joseph...
I'm gonna stop now... When the video ends 😅
... Bad Demon, stop it 😬
That belief in what others say about us, in my experience, comes from us valuing what others believe in.
I've been in that loop for most of my life--dispossesed. But then I've also been on the opposite end of the spectrum where I see everyone else as stupid.
Finally. I tried to type someone,and I was really seeing the Ti but being a Te user the Ti appeared to me as hella irrational so I ended up trying to type him for like two years or so because I thought that Ti hero is in no way shape or form irrational.
I suspect with Ti hero INTPs tend to overthink things and so appear quite irrational to others
@@ryanbrowne6651 definitely agree on the overthinking thing. Ti overthinking tends to move past the practicality-real world likelihood of something, and gets so glued to the "shoulds" of things, drives me nuts, because I'm over here Te-ing like, but its NOT that way, so.. forget about how it should be, because this is how it _IS_ ...lol
The problem with helping people is that many people don't even want to be helped, so we are kind of confused in that way, cuz we don't know how to approach them. Or better to say, it's hard for us to recognize what is that that those peope need. I've been hurt many times by trying to help others in this way, so I just retreat
Been waiting on this one!
Me too
Yeah, was talking with someone not a week ago, that I'm waiting for this episode.
INTP Squad unite
AMin Hakim we have a squad? Why not a gaggle
NOT CUTE!!!! WE ARE NOT CUTE!!! 😂😂😂 lmao!
Omg this! Cute and adorable... its always the adorable word *sigh*
....i get called gentle alot
YES THIS STOP CALLING INTPS CUTE, WE JUST LOVE CUDDLES (not speaking for everybody ofc) BUT WE AINT CUTE.
I wish I knew these valuable information when I was a kid. Man, this video is like slapping my face at the same time from side to side!!😂
Thank you for pointing out these valuable information, now we can easily learn them through a systematic approach, if not which we'll have to learn through the hard way.
Nowadays Chase is merely DOPEamine addicted.
Sorry, I had to
i laughed.
Have to listen to this a 100 times. A precious video. You're a genius.
Man, I was about to comment on the invalidity on the ENTJ and how theyre like the rapiest of all the types, until I remembered one of my ENTJ friends saw a girl, listened to her convo, deduced she was in a dance club, and found her dance club and her @ in about 5-10 minutes! That was the weirdest thing I've ever experienced in my life (of course, he had no ill intentions). Crazy shit happens with ENTJs, I tell ya.
I just saw an advert where a guy claimed he absorbed information from a book by touching it...wtelf!
What websites have you been surfin?
jk
Similarly, INFPs need to verify their feelings "am I right to feel this way and judge that person ? "
My ENTJ mom always tells me what she believe is true and never cared for my 'lala land'
At first I was enraged, cocky, victimising myself, self pitying, wishing I was born inJapan (hahahaha ouf look at this silliness)
But then I wanted to adabt, I was so done with not being able to endure mom's critisism ! That's when it clicked
Mom have always been right, if I was just mature enough to listen then I'd have realized that MUCH sooner
Thank you for another great lecture. I really appreciate your channel and what you're trying to accomplish.
Almost every negative aspect you covered in this video I admit to having when I was a teen up to mid-20s - call it my 'lost decade'.
The remedies you suggest make a great deal of sense. We're very prone to self-apathy (and self-loathing), and I've found developing boundaries with others, as you've detailed in the Fe part of this lecture, is a must.
Turning immature Si comfort-addiction into commitment to self-discipline has also greatly helped me recently. I see you're focusing on the gateway functions for these lectures, although each function has potential to identify immaturities to be fixed.
No More Mr Nice Guy by Robert Glover was a great read too - heard about it on one of your other lectures.
Sound quality was good all the way through; nice shot of the waterfall too. :)
This was like, the most personally attacking/offensive thing I’ve ever watched but absolutely 100% true god damn lol. Probably the most important advice I’ve ever gotten from a TH-cam video
Don’t be gluttonous
Shit, dude I’m an INTP & can confirm this is on point
This is valuable, like an honest brother dropping down truth to NTP siblings.
1:03:39 sometimes u have to sit back and watch the world burn chase.
Wow you were on point with this one. I got to the point of being so afraid of being called out by people saying that I was actually dumb and just acting intelligent that I started speaking and acting like someone who doesn't put thought into their words/actions. I literally became afraid of intelligence itself yet I sought it out in ppl. Brb gotta work on that now lol
This channel is amazing! I am consuming the videos like popcorn! Thank you 💚💛💜
Hopefully it stays that way. I eventually trigger everyone haha
@@CSJoseph well truth does not trigger me. ✌🏼I treat knowledgeable people with respect even more if they are trying to educate humans. Thank you. 😘
I just recently realized something. I thought my mom was ENFJ, but I realized she is ESFJ. How did I make this mistake? When she puts something in her head she is a force of nature " and believe me I'm not exaggerating " she will and did move mountains. So I thought: a well Ni parent, makes sense, until I realized that she did this things because it was her duty and it was necessary for the loved ones in her life. The realization is : Si is just as powerful as Ni, so that is what we should practice. Duty and discipline, what is your cross through life? And I don't think you chose it, cose be honest with yourself, you know what it is, life pushed it on you. Take it, and go. What do you see that others don't, and you understand is paramount. This is your cross. And yes she is Initiating Movement, Crusader ( will die if you pin her to bed and craves to move like crazy and doesn't care how many times will take, always Initiating, Tons of covert contracts, think of all before self and everything should be fair , and Will talk your face off that I think about it, and in a informative way too.)
It is amongst one of my greatest honors to be burned by this video. Great stuff, I've been waiting for this video for months. People have always gotten strangely mad at me for helping my husband achieve his dreams instead of being a #independantwomanwhodontneednoman, so I'm glad to know that this is actually a good thing for me (as long as I'm not getting screwed over of course).
I appreciate you calling me out. Truth hurts, but a bunch in here I needed to hear. I only realized I was smart in this last year, just always thought everyone around me was a dumbass. I found that JKD lacked an emphasis on footwork, and was one of the few styles that worked better for smaller and quicker people. I have trained to fight for over 30 years, and one of the biggest things I have seen is that the style and school only go so far. The real success is from the individual, not the style. I know you read these periodically, check out the channel Hard 2 Hurt, Mike is on point and then some
Male INTP here. Very easy to guilt into sex, just saying...
I shower fairly regularly - FYI.
I really mean it.
xD
Great lecture. I also loved the self critisism on typing people!
While I appreciate the information, opinions and perspectives presented, I’m a bit disappointed. The majority of this was covered in Who are the INTPs and How to Social Engineer INTPs. I was hoping for a more systematic overview of function and process. That said, thank you for doing what you do. I hope your health continues to improve and that the personal transitions you are navigating prove beneficial and bountiful.
Intp deserve some more love CS Joseph
Keep it up! :)
"How often do you actually give back to someone?"
I am while listening, I would highly recommend it.
Am I the only one who wishes to have Chase's eyelashes,just me? OK..
Well, you could try getting them from the shower drain... but ugh... Sicko! LOL J/K!
No, his lips
@@Hawkido 😂🤦
@@new123zxc and i'm self counscious as an entj for my comment 😢.Also naaah.. I have better lips😐 :)
I know right 😂😂
Watching you years ago talking about covert contracts really helped me. I realized I was guilty of making covert contracts all the time with my wife (and everyone). Sometimes I thought they were even obvious but she didnt. I have since always tried to make my desired outcome known. It has helped.
However most of the other negatives you talk about for intps havent been issues with me for many years. But damned covert contracts man, getting better but they creep up everywhere. Somethines ikk start feeling idk anger or resentment or something and trace the feeling back to some damned make believe contract. Even when I realize it and most of the resentment fades it doesnt all fade.
Girls can become our idolatry too, being an INTP that's is in a platonic love with an ESFP is hard Chase.
i hate that it true :(
@@joni-nv3el Hello dude, I still in love with her and I'm suffering.. She's gone and I never saw her again
@@gustavo789ful ye i feel like we have the realest love from all type it so spiritual we just put the our lovers in our on iittle world and we dont care about sex or even seeing the perosn we just appreciate them for making us feel this weird feeling of hope in other person like after you feel this feeling may say maybe we aint do such a terrible work after all
@@joni-nv3el That's it, I'm having this spiritual vibe, imagining future scenarios and past moments that I had with her, She's gone at february 2020, and I lost all the contact, She's ESFP enneagram 2, or even ENTJ type 7 it can be similar and I'm INTP type 5.. so it's a golden pair or at least a bronze pair, I loved her Se-Fi you know? She stimulated my mind and at times, she could drag me out of my thoughts, so I could feel alive, experiencing that present and real moment.
@@gustavo789ful yes i feel you bro i had the same thing with enfj girl was so nice to me but when i offer her she had boyfriend and it was really odd i was 14.5 years old ( now 17)when i usk her i told her if she want to be my girlfriend and she did laughed and asked if I was serious then said she had a friend (who by the way that was my childhood friend from age 7-13) since sometimes still hurts me to think about it and not recovered this experience did not offer anyone after that and I do not find the solution to it before 2 months she asked me if I still loved her and did not know what to say and now I'm afraid to talk to her again and always gets on my memories from the last time (first and last time in my life asking a girl to go out) during the three years those two girls started with me one esfp did not go well that is not wanted to do sex with a virgin and a second infj I rejected it because I tried to understand how her mind works and she pressed it to be right now and I panicked and runaway
INFJ here trying to understand INTPs because I'm very drawn to their logic and rationale, and I feel (said no INTP ever xD) there's a lot to understand about them as they tend to be very misunderstood and under appreciated.
Anyway, all of your videos are so informative and have helped me loads understanding INTPs.
I think you're an ENTP and I love the way you explain things (getting passionate, it's riveting), I also get some laughs out of your sense of humour hehe.
What you said in the beginning Chase isn't true. 😂 I watch the other types so I can understand others and help those closest to me that are struggling. As an intj I feel that I need to verify that information so I can best help them. Helping them teachs me about myself and it also allow me to show others that I value them. I find INTP to be very cute! I wish I could see things the way they do.
Wanted this video for so long. Thanks Joseph, just listening through it and you got some very good points!
Crazy views where you're at. What a treat!
I'm the bloke that actually takes the time to verify SPIRITUAL BELIEFS... Thats why I DO NOT HOLD THEM.
I ain't afraid of no ghosts.
Well, this hit hard. I feel like I don't even know where to start to fix all these shortcomings. I expect I shall be rewatching this multiple times.
I find it a shame that INTPs would be considered the 'least respected' of all types of men, when they really have so much to offer to the world, but I can understand why they are viewed that way just based on the way things play out a lot of the time, and also because I think they don't fit into the standard masculine stereotypes (key word stereotypes) that are generally expected of men, by men and other women, and because we just don't play most of the games that many other people are perfectly happy to what seems like to us, sell their soul to, or that are 'fake' or just social facades. It can seem like the world is a big party that we weren't invited to, and that no one wants us to be at, and that probably, we just need to choose how we want to participate in and stop giving our power away to the things that we actually don't really value that much... not that we have a problem with it, but we HATE being forced to participate in things that don't suit us. It's why we go into self-suicide mode because we would rather self-suicide than to be forced to be a part of something that, well... we already know where it's going to go, meaning... people desperately trying to get us to open up, but when we do, getting lambasted for no reason that we can understand, and feeling it viscerally in a way that other people just seem used to and are okay with, but to us, it's not okay at all. I'm not defending shitty behavior, and can INTPs be pathetic, weasely, snobbish, codependent, self-defeating, indignant, selfish, gluttonous, apathetic, disconnected people before they really come into their truth and power? Absolutely, yes, but if that's how INTPs are or have been at times, hopefully we will do everything in our power to eat ourselves alive while not making it anyone else's problem if that's what it comes down to... but of course, like you keep reiterating, it will eventually become a problem for everyone else at some point.
I think a major key for INTPs to get out of this rut, is to give themselves more permission sometimes to really look at and understand, but very importantly, not accept at face value or force ourselves to tolerate, all of the things we that we absolutely loathe about society and how people can be, and that we have very good reasons for loathing, but which appear to us to be completely accepted, validated, encouraged, or just basically ignored to keep the games going. Because we actually have a really strong ability to compartmentalize and accept it, and not entertain it, we just don't like being poked at by people who really have no ability to understand us at the end of the day. It's just part of our perspective sometimes and nothing that we really want to project onto anyone, but just, based on what has been projected onto us and internalized based on misunderstandings... but it is up to us to help the world understand itself (along with ENTPs, INFJs, etc...). I think we need to allow it to piss us off and to drive us, and to accept our feelings about it, if that's what it comes down to, so that we can channel them productively, because if we can't even accept this, we have no chance of transmuting it, one way or the other. And it's actually pretty easy for us to realize what it comes down to, but still, INTPs like a lot of introverted types have a very pronounced fear of rejection and being misunderstood. I know or have met plenty of 'functional' INTPs who are completely out of touch with this side of themselves, and have learned to operate somewhat well in the world with no glaring issues per say, but they are not being completely authentic either so they're not fully in their power.
All in all, I feel like INTPs are that secret weapon that has a very deep and innocent childlike ability to really care about everyone, but there is a serious reason why INTPs need enough of their own space, as long as they use it well and don't degenerate into nothingness. INTPs want to make the world better for everyone, but their way of doing so from a childlike perspective, as much as it's often so needed, is just as often overlooked, diminished, and not justifiably disrespected or nourished in my opinion, which leaves us feeling like we have to clean up other people's messing before realizing it's our own mess, and then realizing we never needed to do anything but give it to ourselves first. It's a SERIOUS dilemma no doubt which at our worst becomes Si child just wanting to feel good sometimes but creating it's own hell, and within our type, there is a more drastic polarity than I think a lot of other types have, in terms of having Ti hero and Fe inferior, but all types have this in their own way. There is something very pronounced about it if we are, as all types, to try to full integrate it and stay balanced amidst chaos.
They are doormats
It's amazing how you do these lectures off the top of your dome. That's stylezzz. An INTP friend of mine says that alot "Stylezzz"
Bloody hell, I should really become a more mature person.
Yeah, I have some of the problems, The binging is a huge problem to me although the "people pleaser and nice guy" is not. But I think that's a problem altogether because since a child I was instilled with the belief that I had nothing to offer to help anyone, so I don't think I've ever actually started developing my Fe well.
How I always feel after listening to any C. S. Joseph lecture...
Yay finally!
I know!! I've been dying for this too. And it's so long: gratifying 😁
Why do people think all intp's wear hoodies and things like that ? I'm an intp and I wear suits and overcoats all the time
wow I'm 3 years late, 2 minutes in, the rain and wind comments are just killing me XD. golden content as always.
I am rewatching these videos, with a different level of maturity. Thankyou Teacher
Coach, his name is Coach "The Chesse" Super Joseph. Write it on the forehead for the next one.
Best salespitch ever.
C.S.: "I recommend to watch videos about other types. If you dont, you run the risk of being ignorant"
INTPs: *spends the rest of the week bingewatching ALL videos on the channel*
Need to get the private videos at csjoseph.life/portal
Being INTP, I watched other type personalities too, when I see comments and realise no one is interested in other but about themselves, that's where your knowledge gets limited, and you become ignorant and narcissist.
I love to know how others feel, wanna understand their mind too. Isn't it interesting?
Wen you take responsibility for a problem that isn't yours and you didn't create, you have to make it so that people won't be able to exploit you. Once you set a bad example it is very hard to set a boundary again. Words don't mean anything after that. Generosity is always punished.
Example: My siblings don't do their chores, the dishes are still not cleaned and I want to eat dinner. I can:
- Only clean just the stuff I need. (Not take responsibility)
They'll call me an asshole but I can live with that. They're just angry at me for not playing into their bullshit.
- Do the dishes. (take responsibility)
They will from now on use my preference to their advantage. They might even create more work by not reusing glasses... The only way around it is by punishing them in some way for not doing the dishes. This option requires leverage, which means I have to sacrifice leverage I could have used in a better situation.
- Not eat
I'll go hungry. Not much to say about this, it sucks.
It's true that there are many nice people around but you have to think about the assholes too. If you only do nice stuff for close friends that's fine and a reasonable boundary to set for yourself.
If I was a better judge of character I wouldn't have to use silly tactics all the time but I'm not.
I love the background. That's the one thing that I had liked about living in the mountains such as WV, Washington State, and even the western part of NC. However, unfortunately, I didn't care much for the towns themselves.
What state was this filmed in do you know?
@@bobbyjean1581 , I don't know. I assume it is in CA.
@@tajmarie1329 Looks like Northern California to me, San Jose area, maybe>
@@katiemcmillin6467 Southern Idaho
I think helping other people rather helps my Si to surpass diffculties than my Ti.
I am also pretty brilliant just thinking for my self - or even more then - but I need others to put it to good cause and surpass adversities. So practically I can reach more, but my theoretical potential stays the same.
36:19 that's very true, ENTJ friends of mine can come off as rapey and they're not even attracted to me
Lmfao "rapey" thats hilarious thank you
I like to understand all types so that I can better understand humanity. My sister types as intp and she likes to hide from society. She has done this so much that at one point, she lived as a home steadier. She also doesn't trust anyone.
How was she typed? Because Not trusting people is a sign of having lower Ne
One episode away from the most important episode of the season.
Te users come to the wrong conclusions because their Ti is weak. But what's the point of strong Ti if your input of Te is terrible? I see this in INFJs all the time. High Ti and shitty conclusions due to lack of Te. Garbage in garbage out. Te users can atleast detect high Ti users and use their logic for verification.
It's hard to say who is actually more ignorant Te or Ti, but Ti is by far more arrogant. That's why I often say to my ESTP brother that he is the dumbest smart person I know.
I'm wondering if a person can change his/her personality type over the years or you'll stay the same for the rest of your life?
I hear so many people say they change bc of nature/nurture and some say you dont, you're probably just mistyped?
Hi sorry I’m late! No your type never changes your maturity and how you access the other 3 sides of your mind does change and therefore how your type behaves and comes across
As an INTP here is the problem to me. This is why we are perceived as apathetic. There is no such thing as absolute truth. There's relative truth and that's it. Without the security of truth it's hard to be confident and move forward
Dopamine detox is really a necessary thing for Si childs. sometimes i can lay down on my bed and listening to music whole day and doing nothing at all.
"Dopamine detox" is the new "juice detox". It's some nonsensical trendy internet thing that is not supported by science. Your brain produces dopamine naturally and if you suffer from depression chances are your antidepressant contains a dopamine reuptake inhibitor (so that you retain more of the dopamine your brain produces). Getting rid of dopamine would f*ck you up both physically and mentally. The only way to "overdose" on dopamine is to snort coke daily, and even then it's not the dopamine that would be problematic in such an instance.
Hi Chase! I hope you are better every day and appreciate all your efforts, truly! I am also a student of UMF and the Fast Track to it, have been using it and it helps in my business. I just mention that to let you know that my intention is learning, and willing to pay for it (the reason is that I am not in the other memberships is that it is very unclear for me what they cover).
So here are my questions/insights/kind requests regarding this lecture.
I have been binge consuming your materials (well yup caught me lol, but maybe this is good type of binging , the hunger for knowledge). I have listened to all lectures where the intps were mentioned, the sides of the mind, the functions. Plus other cognitive transitions, the quadras, etc.
Now although binging can be a setback, from my experience it is where the best lines of thoughts and new ideas are also born. Like the mind is put on a kind of pause and then the ideas can start forming slowly in the background and then emerge "out of nothing". Possibly the same type of mechanism as you being most focused when doing other stuff at the same time.
Now to be honest I heard nothing new in this lecture. It seems to be focused on the severely immature INTPs, solely.
I have observed myself and retrospectively have seen myself shifting to esfj, entj, isfp kind of all the time on a daily basis. That is kind of a given.
But if we are already aware, if we are on the out of immaturity (although because of my life I think I have become a mature financially and by responsibilities even earlier than "normal") then how do we keep the pathways open? How do we stabilize them?
Also in the triple systematic part you seem to leave out 2 questions by which we check. At least that is the impression. I heard as if ennumeration followed, then the 1st question was said, then never heard the following two. Might have misunderstood, but just to know for sure.
Last but not least, the big issue here is the INTP women thing. Yes it does not fit the archetype of what a woman "should be" and it does not even if we act super esfj like. My experience is: even if act super warm giving Fe (and I was a wife too and loved to be, also I am a mother) , still because at the same time we are abstract and well..witty smart we are still pushed behind, still labelled. It is as if only men were allowed to be abstract, to be interested in stuff that are traditionally male things and in fact if you are a woman you better not think! I live in Eastern Europe and maybe my issues have greater applicability here. I mean, much of me is my mind, my solutions and stuff I can bring to the world and share those in an active Fe mode, but seems that just because of having a female body that is also a kind of guarantee that I am not desirable for who I am truly.
Another question, Ne parent was not mentioned. Is that on purpose?
Thank you.
did you watch season 19?
@@CSJoseph heading on to it in the weekend.
Oh let me check gold membership actually :)
@@CSJoseph when will season 19 be available again in paid form? From what I understand from support team is that it is not at all at the moment. Thank you!
You are not wrong about being able to support a couple billion more people but the question is do we want this. I have good reasons to negate this.
I was almost romance conned by a filipina. Good thing I could see through her BS. She was "showering" affection and pretending to be in love with me, but she was not of any emotional support. So, I cut her out altogether.
Find a Korean, they are better at everything
37:55 "I hope nobody calls me so the lecture doesn't become a waste" don't pick up the phone. Problem solved.
5w6 INTPs love video games. 5w4 INTPs, like me, would rather read the encyclopedia or study typology.