As for the colors of the film, they remind me of old ORWO kolor negative film from the 80's and, yes, they are similar to Lomography Metropolis. And, because it's ORWO, it should be filmed with Praktica VLC and Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50mm f1.8 lens. This would be the actual retro experience.
It looks a whole lot like Lomo Metropolis. I would like to see it tested in a really high end camera with very sharp glass, to see what it can really do. I just got my 10 rolls of Santa Color, and I'm very happy so far. Great consumer film with rich, vivid colours. I hope you guys can continue providing that film stock in the future!
I know it's been a year, but it's not metropolis. NC400, NC500, Metropolis, and Lomo colour 92 all are made in the same factory and formulated by the same people and thus are very similar.
ORWO is the Original Agfa before Germany got split up and the Westgerman Part in Leverkusen carried on the Name Agfa, and the Eastern Part was named ORWO
This new orwo film looks a lot like Lomochrome Metropolis to me. Allegedly Lomochrome films are made in the same factory as Orwo films, but I wonder if similarities between grain structure and other potential details can be found. For instance, does the new Orwo film have a green base like Lomochromes? I'd like to see the physical negatives in the next video.
I would love to see some portraits with an Hasselblad X-Pan and preferably the 90mm lens. When I saw the thumbnail I thought it is finally shipping but I was wrong. I ordered a 5 pack the first day it was online for pre-order and haven't received anything yet.
I think you should use a camera with correct times and a good sharp lens. You can’t put it in your Leica if you want to. I’d be more interested in seeing pictures from different scenarios and exposure ratings. Like how does 320 look different from 400 ASA? Foliage and skin tones, night scapes shot wide open and handheld. How does it respond to tungsten light, and how well can tungsten shots be corrected during scanning? Also scans from a Frontier would be nice, simply because it has a really good benchmark look we can base evaluations on.
I think you should try it with a modern camera (like a eos1v or f100) and normal lens (some 50mm) so all the „character“ will come from the film not the camera
Family photography, please. This is what I shoot. And ideally, Minolta Dynax 5 with 50/1.7 lens. That´s my go to gear. Anyway, the box is lovely retro one.
I would love to see you shoot some portraits with this film to see how it compares to Portra 400/Fuji 400H/Cinestill 400D. Shoot it with a NIkon F6 and your favorite portrait lens.
Maybe use a Pentax 1000 or canon ae-1 with a nifty 50. Everyone has these cameras and seeing how the wolfen looks in them would help a lot of students and hobbiests.
I would love to see the results with a camera+lens combination I've been recently enjoying: Canon EOS 300 + 40mm 2.8 pancake lens. Super lightweight, ultra compact and very fun to shoot. Fun fact: I actually bought my copy not so long ago from kamerastore ;)
I was the guy who ordered 5 rolls and were talking to you at the fair. I still have not received my order, I´ve asked ORWO on the Monday after the fair about it and they said that it will be shipping in November. So fingers crossed.....
@@NicosPhotographyShow Today I have received news from ORWO. Here is the original mail I´ve got: ORWO Film Thank you for your email and your patience; All the films are scheduled to be dispatched today to the spooling. The printing of the boxes started on Friday and the DX codes are being prepared. So we will be able to start delivering in approximately 14 working days. Since our machine in China had been shut off to us for almost the whole year, it has created unprecedented delays. To solve this we looked high and low and tested multiple other vendors. We finally found two that were suitable and have commissioned them. In the meantime we have designed and started to build our own machine for germany. This will be ready early next year. And now we have also entered into a partnership agreement with a European company to be our photo finisher in January, whilst we wait for our machine to be finished. Sincere apologies for the delay, but now we have fixed this, we have multiple contingencies so that it never becomes a bottleneck again. Some more good news! We have another NEW colour stock ready. This will start spooling at the same time. We will let you know when it is ready. We are nearly there. Thank you again for your patience.
@@haraldschreiber 5 months later, they finally shipped my order of 6 rolls. Ironic thing is I already shot NC500 from another store like a month ago 😅😅 I am still looking forward to it. I like it alot especially at 200ISO
I think that is an issue that companies are selling film in booths before fulfilling orders. I have supported a couple Kickstarter campaigns and the fulfillment just takes too long. I vote you shoot with a Leica M5 and an adapted LTM lens to get people riled up hahaha
Yeah! Can I assume that you are doing similar? I want to try with my Mamiyaflex C2 but not waste film. Haven’t found any clear directions online. The amoun of paper that gets wound up at the beginning of a 120 roll would be a lot of wasted 35mm “leader”. If I could find out how much then I could attach that much extra leader to the start of the roll. The next question is how far through the roll of normal 36 exposures would the 12 shots at 60mm go? The Mamiyaflex winder only allows 12 exposures, though I could guess guess the winds after and keep exposing. There is no multi-exposure prevention or anything to stop you taking shots after the end of the 12. Sorry to dump such a reply to your comment but I haven’t been able to find much about doing this and I really want to!
I preordered and have not received them. I'm not particularly upset about someone selling it currently if that person was the actual coater, though I do hope they have made true movement on getting the film out to buyers very soon. I could see creating a new color film from some level of "ground-up" being a bit grungy or weird ... so I'm not too bothered by the quality, though I'll probably try bracketing between 200 and 320 when I hopefully do get mine. I also think the Ferrania kickstarter supporters should kind of get over it by now? It was a highly conditional goal that had a very narrow window that got slammed shut hard. Kickstarters are not pre-sales or even catalog purchases ... the best way to get Ferrania color now is to buy their superior quality B&W. As for Orwo, I do hope they can clear up some questions and get this film out soon. I badly want them to succeed, even if it never surpasses gritty consumer quality. Consumers expect different things from film now, and honestly, the grit and contrast probably match that better than older-style stocks like Portra.
Use pre-Ai Nikkor lenses of different focal lengths. Daylight street photography would probably give most versatile results to see film's characteristics. You could add some lowlight pictures also.👌
To me, personally, i would look at the results of someone else to get an idea if i like the look. To me, the physical medium is a good experiment to do without much on post, if you are looking for dynamic range, because you can get it a lot on the new Kodak and digital photography, so everything doesn't need to have a lot of post production spectrum and I love what you get through the lighting, camera and developing and it helps me think of where i would use it, or what kind of a movie I can use the look in. From the results you and some others posted, i like the desaturated oily green look and it kind of forms a color grade of its own and doesnt need much on post (maybe if you want to add a warm filter on shoot or post), and on the shoot if we want to under or overexpose it. Its possible like you say, that its rehousing old stock, but either way, id use it when it came on 16mm, at least as one short film or a music video, for sure, without worrying about what i cant get from the highlights and shadows. Id use it as a contrast based film
This Film Is sold under the inoviscoat brand, they are the ones who coated the Film. That’s why there is no ORWO branding on the Box. Maybe they have an agreement that both Companies can sell that Film.
Just to let everybody know: I finally received the three rolls I ordered last July last week by post. So they are definitely shipping them to customers. I am based in Germany and they are sending them from DHL E-fulfillment Heerlen (near Cologne).
Well at least you were lucky. I pre ordered at 29.05.2022 few rolls of NP 100 and NP 400. I know these are different films, but the only response i got from the manufacturer was in december of 2022 and it was some sort of excuse (production issues) with a 20 % off coupon. I would really like to know whats the issue with the b/w films.
A Leica with one of there sharpest newest lenses you can get. This way we can see the film without the effects of older degraded lenses and get a better idea of what we could get.
Can you try shoot it with Minolta Dynax 5 and the 50mm lens, love your review about that plastic af camera. the film does looks like properly stored expired film but realy nice tones.
the sample i received from Orwo was hand rolled, and one of the three rolls sent to the US. Currently Orwo is allowing preorders to gauge how much to send over seas
I don't think the camera matters as much as the lens. More precisely, I'd like to see a mix of shots with different lenses in different conditions of different subjects. I'd like to see a couple of portraits with a 90 or 100, some daytime street scenes, and something with dramatic colors like indoor performers in costumes with bright reds and yellows. I just think if we know it is competitive with Portra or 400H, let's explore where we can use it. Cheers
Speaking of colour, I'd prefer to win that B&O phone on your desk. Leica-M6 / 50 mm Summicron f/2 / environmental portraits & still-lifes. I'd rate it at 160 myself.
I looked at a new Wolfen B&W film several months back and the postage to the U.S. was something like $30. That tells me they have not developed a distribution network yet so maybe that is why they can sell it at a fair, but are waiting to deliver it outside of Germany?
@@Kitsaplorax even if you buy your not going to get it. Shady to be selling it before filling preorder another company did that recently with their kickstarter.
Might not be the most popular option but given ORWO's history a similar vintage German camera like Wirgin Edixa Reflex with a nice 50mm lens (Carl Zeiss, Schacht, whatever German Edixa lens you have). I agree with folks that it looks a lot like Lomo Metropolis
I think it would be great to see tested with Leica or Nikon glass, something really good and sharp so we can see the film without having lens artifacts effect it as much.
A new film can only come out the gate once. Surely people support a company who are trying to build awareness of their new film to coincide with the launch and get people talking about it to create hype and drive the initial sales. You said it yourself… you much prefer buying it in person. So in light of what I have said, It backs up my point.
I have placed an order. Just like with the Santa color. These days we have to help, I think.... I do agree that it is very strange that they are now selling instead of sending to the people who have had an order for a long time.
While I agree that selling the film at a show is a little shady, I also understand as an engineer what it's like to knock off a prototype for a show to get the word out on something that's close to market. It could be that they did a short run for the show to test things but they are not quite sure about the color balance, etc. enough for general release. They problem with sending out a prototype to the public is that the look of the film will become expected and will then become difficult to tweak against the expectation. It's probably lots of trial and error in getting the process and formula balances just right and the resources at Orwo aren't what they were at Kodak circa 1990, when Kodak had a dozen color film varieties (I think there were 5 Ektachromes in an add I found). Give them a little more time.
I think it will be nice and good if you shoot this film with your most common camera, the camera you use the most, that way you and us will get the most useful and precious pictures. I don't know what camera you consider as you go to 35mm camera. But I'm guessing it's laica m6🙂🤷🏽♂️.
Thanks. I reminder that around 1970, ORWO color from the German Democratic Republic was the only one I could afford. The developed film was not orange and the colors made sense to me for a negative: complementary. Sky was red, red roof tiles were blue. The Swiss flag was blue with a black cross.The prints were fairly flat and grayish. But OK for me, they had COLOR!
Interesting variant to shoot ORWO film with some old boys from GDR, like Praktica with Pancolar or another lens from era of the best Germany) And to shoot half of roll NC-500 with people of labour, like portraits of miners, dock workers, scientists and etc. And half of roll to remnants of socialistic age: like brutalist buildings, mosaics and another memory of socialist states and there history.
I think "restructuring" by bankruptcy is a bit edgy at the beginning, especially if planned. So I guess it's maybe that kind of short term thinking that goes on. Maybe the guy got 500 rolls instead of payment, IDK. Anyway it sounds very strange, IMO. But I agree, we need more color film options!
Use a half-frame camera (because we get twice the amount of images to look at). And something boring as lens, like a 50mm, 35mm, 28mm so we can judge the film and don't get distracted by some awesome lense.
Yes! Half-frame will show the grain structure better. More prints to look at and with some bracketing to reveal the latitude and how the colors are affected.
I'd love to see a combo of wide angle m mount lens and body, 21mm or 15mm if possible. I don't think it's honest that it's sold in person when orders haven't been fulfilled. It doesn't seem honest to me and I don't think I will buy any if I do find some with that being the case. I'd hate to have backed and not received the film and see others being able to buy it. Also from what you've shown it looks to me a lot like lomochrome metropolis; however looking at their website it looks like they intend it to look like ultramax of superia x-tra.
ORWO made color film with their own developing chemicals for the most part until a few years after the USSR fell.-41 a cross-process for ENC-2? I don't know if that's exactly accurate, as both are negative color developers. Maybe you meant E6 reversal/slide film and developing for cross-processing?
Thanks for this opinion video Nico, I am still waiting for my rolls but still hopeful they will arrive one day. I would love to see you shoot it on a camera with good glass and aperture priority for metering because I feel like there is a level of consistency to that method which would be valuable. My choice would be a Nikon FM3A with 50mm 1.2 AIS, but there are many options. For motive, perhaps a mixed bag, definitely some skin tones, shadows vs highlights, points of light..
I think you should shoot it with either a high quality kit like a Leica m with a summicron, since then you can really see what this film is able to provide. The other option would be a Cannon AE 1/Pentax k1000 with the nifty 50 or any ,,basic" slr since those are the cameras that got many of us started, thus we sort of know what to expect. As for the style of shooting: I would love to see a mixture. You have 36 Exposures so why not throw in a few portraits to check for skin tones, shoot some indoors for available light situations. Maybe some street in harsh light and maybe also a bit of landscape. Just give a good mix, I think you won't be able to satisfy every shooting style anyway so a little bit of everything might just be the right compromise. Also please consider the other comments who mention that a print would be nice to check results since scans vary extremely depending on what equipment you use. As for preordering and not selling: Sketchy and they really need to come forward and give a statement about their situation.
I would love to shoot a roll with my Canon AE-1 Program with a Canon 35-70 F4 zoom. I would shoot both landscape, people, and portraits and compare with my normal stock of Ektar, Pro Image 100, and Kodak Gold. I have a tripod Mount for two cameras that I can shoot side-by-side. If I get this roll I will compare this with Pro Image 100 side-by-side with a Canon A1. I will use the same lens and use the same aperture. It will be a fun shoot.
I have seen images of this film but I cannot remember where. I was surprised that another colorfilm has been introduced. If I am not mistaken, the film was produced in Germany then the film is shipped to Shanghai/China for cutting and packaging and then shipped around the world. Kind of wired. Orwo was a AGFA plant 100km or so south of Berlin. Orwo has become very popular in India (Bollywood), so I have heard. Therefore they could survive many difficult times. I don't like the film. I think Fuji C200 is much better and I don't like this film either.
Correct. Filmotec GmbH (ORWO basically) merged with Inoviscoat and another company, hence the restructuring. But no one became bankrupt. On a related note, Inoviscoat is the supplier for ADOX's Color Mission, which as part of the restructuring had to cease their work on that project.
I always find it difficult to judge a negative film by a scan. There are so many factors that have an influence how it looks. At least the convertingsoftware is another factor. Would like to see prints from it. These scans looks a bit too harsh and green tinted for me. May be someone likes it this way but i would like to see some daylight shots of colourfull and neutral motives and if possible prints…
This looks like a film that will be less like digital and more like films of 20-30 years ago. Kodak has been playing catch-up with digital photography, for all the wrong reasons... and while there has been great innovation at Kodak because of it, their color films have become rather bland and desaturated. Nico, of course you have got to shoot M6 on the street with this stuff!
I'd like to see the results of this film shot with an Olympus OM1 using a 135mm or 24mm (ish) lens. It's always cool to have another option for film. Have you hear of any chance of this in 120 format?
Keep it simple (if not affordable) : shoot it with a Leica M6 (because eh...that the news of the moment, even an old one will do the job ;-) with a 50mm...
Given the “consumer grade” look I’d like to suggest a “reasonably” priced point-and-shoot; like an Olympus XA or a mju. I’m sure it’d compliment the faded 90s look and give a “memory” from yesteryear feel. Shooting it with an slr perhaps would give better results technically, but from the pictures you’ve shown to us I don’t feel technical optimum it’s this film main perk.
I don't mind if they took an opportunity to sell a few directly to people, maybe its an advance batch for quality control checking of the process in their Chinese packager. 500 isn't much maybe they'd rather not have a few rolls go out before the main load is packaged. I will be excited when my rolls arrive, and I am happy to risk some money to give a company a chance to make a new film. :)
Took a bit longer and I've already shot NC500 from another supplier but my order was shipped yesterday super excited, already determined 200ISO is the sweetspot. Can't wait to shot more of it :)
There's something not quite right with this. As some point out it might be some rebranded material, maybe this is not even legit? Not getting any reliable information out of a business is always worrying.
I shot one roll ( Contax G1 and it’s Zeiss 90mm lens)… it’s trash IMO … low contrast , low saturation, not sharp , extremely high grain but not a nice grain …
Please shoot it with some rather generic SLR like Canon AE-1/P, Pentax K-1000 or Olympus OM-10 with basic 50mm to give us a baseline to which can most people relate to. I'd like it see some daylight street photo and golden hour portraiture. The side be side comparison with Kodak Gold or Portra would be absolutely awesome too.
Nikon F3 with Zeiss 35mm f/2.0 ZF.2 lens. Pre-orders should receive first the film, before it is sold to the general public. It is ethically not correct how they handle the situation. I will not buy this film and support this behavior.
As for the colors of the film, they remind me of old ORWO kolor negative film from the 80's and, yes, they are similar to Lomography Metropolis. And, because it's ORWO, it should be filmed with Praktica VLC and Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50mm f1.8 lens. This would be the actual retro experience.
It looks a whole lot like Lomo Metropolis. I would like to see it tested in a really high end camera with very sharp glass, to see what it can really do. I just got my 10 rolls of Santa Color, and I'm very happy so far. Great consumer film with rich, vivid colours. I hope you guys can continue providing that film stock in the future!
Totally agree that it looks like Metropolis!
Glad I'm not the only person to notice this. Frankly I hope it is NOT Metropolis but...we can only guess.
I know it's been a year, but it's not metropolis. NC400, NC500, Metropolis, and Lomo colour 92 all are made in the same factory and formulated by the same people and thus are very similar.
@@elk3407 Yep, I've tested it too now and it's not Metropolis. I rather like NC500. Rated at ISO 200, it has a nice vintage look.
ORWO is the Original Agfa before Germany got split up and the Westgerman Part in Leverkusen carried on the Name Agfa, and the Eastern Part was named ORWO
Orwo used to be the main film producer for the Estern Block back in the day. So maybe an Exakta Varex with a 75mm f/1.5 Biotar or a Flektogon
This new orwo film looks a lot like Lomochrome Metropolis to me. Allegedly Lomochrome films are made in the same factory as Orwo films, but I wonder if similarities between grain structure and other potential details can be found. For instance, does the new Orwo film have a green base like Lomochromes? I'd like to see the physical negatives in the next video.
It does indeed! Ribsy has posted a Review on his blog with a photo of the negatives. They are greenish-transparent, looks very similar to Metropolis.
I would love to see some portraits with an Hasselblad X-Pan and preferably the 90mm lens.
When I saw the thumbnail I thought it is finally shipping but I was wrong. I ordered a 5 pack the first day it was online for pre-order and haven't received anything yet.
Any Minolta with a 50mm 1.7 why? Because "only from the minds of Minolta"
I think you should use a camera with correct times and a good sharp lens. You can’t put it in your Leica if you want to. I’d be more interested in seeing pictures from different scenarios and exposure ratings. Like how does 320 look different from 400 ASA? Foliage and skin tones, night scapes shot wide open and handheld. How does it respond to tungsten light, and how well can tungsten shots be corrected during scanning? Also scans from a Frontier would be nice, simply because it has a really good benchmark look we can base evaluations on.
Agreed!
Looks like Lomo Metropolis
I think you should try it with a modern camera (like a eos1v or f100) and normal lens (some 50mm) so all the „character“ will come from the film not the camera
I agree...EOS 1V and 50mm 1.2L. Maybe shoot it at 320 like the vendor mentioned.
And do some bracketed shots from 800 to 100
Agreed!
Family photography, please. This is what I shoot. And ideally, Minolta Dynax 5 with 50/1.7 lens. That´s my go to gear.
Anyway, the box is lovely retro one.
I would love to see you shoot some portraits with this film to see how it compares to Portra 400/Fuji 400H/Cinestill 400D. Shoot it with a NIkon F6 and your favorite portrait lens.
Would love to see you shoot this on an xpan/45mm combo. The aspect will let us see more tones and color per scene!
Today the shipment of NC 500 arrived, FINALLY!!!!
That is great to hear. Hope they can keep up with demand.
Maybe use a Pentax 1000 or canon ae-1 with a nifty 50. Everyone has these cameras and seeing how the wolfen looks in them would help a lot of students and hobbiests.
Friendly advice😉:
With all these new film announcements, have you had trouble focusing in on a new favorite?
Try stopping down. 📸
I would love to see the results with a camera+lens combination I've been recently enjoying: Canon EOS 300 + 40mm 2.8 pancake lens. Super lightweight, ultra compact and very fun to shoot.
Fun fact: I actually bought my copy not so long ago from kamerastore ;)
I was the guy who ordered 5 rolls and were talking to you at the fair. I still have not received my order, I´ve asked ORWO on the Monday after the fair about it and they said that it will be shipping in November. So fingers crossed.....
Hope it gets delivered soon! Please keep me updated.
@@NicosPhotographyShow I will for sure
@@NicosPhotographyShow Today I have received news from ORWO. Here is the original mail I´ve got:
ORWO Film
Thank you for your email and your patience; All the films are scheduled to be dispatched today to the spooling. The printing of the boxes started on Friday and the DX codes are being prepared. So we will be able to start delivering in approximately 14 working days. Since our machine in China had been shut off to us for almost the whole year, it has created unprecedented delays. To solve this we looked high and low and tested multiple other vendors. We finally found two that were suitable and have commissioned them. In the meantime we have designed and started to build our own machine for germany. This will be ready early next year. And now we have also entered into a partnership agreement with a European company to be our photo finisher in January, whilst we wait for our machine to be finished. Sincere apologies for the delay, but now we have fixed this, we have multiple contingencies so that it never becomes a bottleneck again. Some more good news! We have another NEW colour stock ready. This will start spooling at the same time. We will let you know when it is ready. We are nearly there. Thank you again for your patience.
@@haraldschreiber 5 months later, they finally shipped my order of 6 rolls. Ironic thing is I already shot NC500 from another store like a month ago 😅😅 I am still looking forward to it. I like it alot especially at 200ISO
Nikon F5 + 80-200 mm lens, portraits with natural light.
I Fuji Klasse W is a great street camera
I think that is an issue that companies are selling film in booths before fulfilling orders. I have supported a couple Kickstarter campaigns and the fulfillment just takes too long. I vote you shoot with a Leica M5 and an adapted LTM lens to get people riled up hahaha
Que barbaridad! Estás subiendo vídeo cada dos por tres! Que bien. Se agradece mucho. Un saludo. 👏👏👏
Shoot it in a Mamiya C330/C33 using 120/35mm adaptors ❤ no film etchings means you can expose the entire film, I think that would be really fun.
Yeah! Can I assume that you are doing similar? I want to try with my Mamiyaflex C2 but not waste film. Haven’t found any clear directions online. The amoun of paper that gets wound up at the beginning of a 120 roll would be a lot of wasted 35mm “leader”. If I could find out how much then I could attach that much extra leader to the start of the roll.
The next question is how far through the roll of normal 36 exposures would the 12 shots at 60mm go? The Mamiyaflex winder only allows 12 exposures, though I could guess guess the winds after and keep exposing. There is no multi-exposure prevention or anything to stop you taking shots after the end of the 12.
Sorry to dump such a reply to your comment but I haven’t been able to find much about doing this and I really want to!
I preordered and have not received them. I'm not particularly upset about someone selling it currently if that person was the actual coater, though I do hope they have made true movement on getting the film out to buyers very soon. I could see creating a new color film from some level of "ground-up" being a bit grungy or weird ... so I'm not too bothered by the quality, though I'll probably try bracketing between 200 and 320 when I hopefully do get mine. I also think the Ferrania kickstarter supporters should kind of get over it by now? It was a highly conditional goal that had a very narrow window that got slammed shut hard. Kickstarters are not pre-sales or even catalog purchases ... the best way to get Ferrania color now is to buy their superior quality B&W. As for Orwo, I do hope they can clear up some questions and get this film out soon. I badly want them to succeed, even if it never surpasses gritty consumer quality. Consumers expect different things from film now, and honestly, the grit and contrast probably match that better than older-style stocks like Portra.
Use pre-Ai Nikkor lenses of different focal lengths. Daylight street photography would probably give most versatile results to see film's characteristics. You could add some lowlight pictures also.👌
To me, personally, i would look at the results of someone else to get an idea if i like the look. To me, the physical medium is a good experiment to do without much on post, if you are looking for dynamic range, because you can get it a lot on the new Kodak and digital photography, so everything doesn't need to have a lot of post production spectrum and I love what you get through the lighting, camera and developing and it helps me think of where i would use it, or what kind of a movie I can use the look in.
From the results you and some others posted, i like the desaturated oily green look and it kind of forms a color grade of its own and doesnt need much on post (maybe if you want to add a warm filter on shoot or post), and on the shoot if we want to under or overexpose it.
Its possible like you say, that its rehousing old stock, but either way, id use it when it came on 16mm, at least as one short film or a music video, for sure, without worrying about what i cant get from the highlights and shadows. Id use it as a contrast based film
This Film Is sold under the inoviscoat brand, they are the ones who coated the Film. That’s why there is no ORWO branding on the Box. Maybe they have an agreement that both Companies can sell that Film.
Just to let everybody know: I finally received the three rolls I ordered last July last week by post. So they are definitely shipping them to customers. I am based in Germany and they are sending them from DHL E-fulfillment Heerlen (near Cologne).
Thanks for the update! Glad to hear they are sending the film
Well at least you were lucky. I pre ordered at 29.05.2022 few rolls of NP 100 and NP 400. I know these are different films, but the only response i got from the manufacturer was in december of 2022 and it was some sort of excuse (production issues) with a 20 % off coupon. I would really like to know whats the issue with the b/w films.
A Leica with one of there sharpest newest lenses you can get. This way we can see the film without the effects of older degraded lenses and get a better idea of what we could get.
Olympus Trip 35 - Street Photography
Hola amigo ! I would love to see you shoot this Orwo film with the Yashica T4. It would be interesting to see the results with the Carl Zeiss 🙏
Can you try shoot it with Minolta Dynax 5 and the 50mm lens, love your review about that plastic af camera. the film does looks like properly stored expired film but realy nice tones.
the sample i received from Orwo was hand rolled, and one of the three rolls sent to the US. Currently Orwo is allowing preorders to gauge how much to send over seas
Street photography Leica M6 with a 28 mm lens I think that would look interesting for that particular film.
I don't think the camera matters as much as the lens. More precisely, I'd like to see a mix of shots with different lenses in different conditions of different subjects. I'd like to see a couple of portraits with a 90 or 100, some daytime street scenes, and something with dramatic colors like indoor performers in costumes with bright reds and yellows. I just think if we know it is competitive with Portra or 400H, let's explore where we can use it. Cheers
Speaking of colour, I'd prefer to win that B&O phone on your desk. Leica-M6 / 50 mm Summicron f/2 / environmental portraits & still-lifes. I'd rate it at 160 myself.
Use this film in combination with a Praktica camera with a 29 mm Orestegon lens, shoot film intirely in East German way.
Thumbs up this because I don’t think I’ll win anyways 😅
Love the content!
I looked at a new Wolfen B&W film several months back and the postage to the U.S. was something like $30. That tells me they have not developed a distribution network yet so maybe that is why they can sell it at a fair, but are waiting to deliver it outside of Germany?
There is a US ORWO distributor. They don't have anything in stock and do not seem to answer their emails.
@@Kitsaplorax even if you buy your not going to get it. Shady to be selling it before filling preorder another company did that recently with their kickstarter.
Might not be the most popular option but given ORWO's history a similar vintage German camera like Wirgin Edixa Reflex with a nice 50mm lens (Carl Zeiss, Schacht, whatever German Edixa lens you have).
I agree with folks that it looks a lot like Lomo Metropolis
Give the extra roll to Santa 🎅 if you see him lurking around in Finland 😅
Blonde Santa?
@@NicosPhotographyShow Just if you can’t find the old and white one ☝️
Canon Ae-1/P with the 50mm. Most of the people have this camera, had it or planning to buy it.
I think it would be great to see tested with Leica or Nikon glass, something really good and sharp so we can see the film without having lens artifacts effect it as much.
It can be any camera but a 40mm lens would make sense as most people have either a 35mm or 50mm, so its a good in-between.
Your black m2 plus the Summaron 35mm
A new film can only come out the gate once. Surely people support a company who are trying to build awareness of their new film to coincide with the launch and get people talking about it to create hype and drive the initial sales. You said it yourself… you much prefer buying it in person. So in light of what I have said, It backs up my point.
Chuck a roll in a Rollei 35S if you can do the range focusing thing
So, what you're saying is I shouldn't hold my breath for Orwo to release NC500 in 127 format?
I have placed an order. Just like with the Santa color. These days we have to help, I think....
I do agree that it is very strange that they are now selling instead of sending to the people who have had an order for a long time.
While I agree that selling the film at a show is a little shady, I also understand as an engineer what it's like to knock off a prototype for a show to get the word out on something that's close to market. It could be that they did a short run for the show to test things but they are not quite sure about the color balance, etc. enough for general release. They problem with sending out a prototype to the public is that the look of the film will become expected and will then become difficult to tweak against the expectation. It's probably lots of trial and error in getting the process and formula balances just right and the resources at Orwo aren't what they were at Kodak circa 1990, when Kodak had a dozen color film varieties (I think there were 5 Ektachromes in an add I found). Give them a little more time.
I think it will be nice and good if you shoot this film with your most common camera, the camera you use the most, that way you and us will get the most useful and precious pictures.
I don't know what camera you consider as you go to 35mm camera. But I'm guessing it's laica m6🙂🤷🏽♂️.
I agree!
Thanks. I reminder that around 1970, ORWO color from the German Democratic Republic was the only one I could afford. The developed film was not orange and the colors made sense to me for a negative: complementary. Sky was red, red roof tiles were blue. The Swiss flag was blue with a black cross.The prints were fairly flat and grayish. But OK for me, they had COLOR!
Interesting variant to shoot ORWO film with some old boys from GDR, like Praktica with Pancolar or another lens from era of the best Germany) And to shoot half of roll NC-500 with people of labour, like portraits of miners, dock workers, scientists and etc. And half of roll to remnants of socialistic age: like brutalist buildings, mosaics and another memory of socialist states and there history.
Should try the big boy Leica R8
Can’t go wrong with the M2 with a 50 or 35 ti see how it looks with that glass
Shoot it with Konica Hexar RF Limited + 50mm f1.2 M-Hexanon or Kodak Cameo EF. Your coworkers can be the subjects.
i backed and preordered from Silberra in 2018. still nothing. then i see it on shelves for sale. i have zero faith in film preorders.
Yashica fx2000 with contax 50mm 1.7
Shoot the roll with a Praktina FX with a CZJ Biotar lens.
I think "restructuring" by bankruptcy is a bit edgy at the beginning, especially if planned. So I guess it's maybe that kind of short term thinking that goes on. Maybe the guy got 500 rolls instead of payment, IDK. Anyway it sounds very strange, IMO. But I agree, we need more color film options!
Use a half-frame camera (because we get twice the amount of images to look at). And something boring as lens, like a 50mm, 35mm, 28mm so we can judge the film and don't get distracted by some awesome lense.
Yes! Half-frame will show the grain structure better. More prints to look at and with some bracketing to reveal the latitude and how the colors are affected.
I think it should be shot on a Praktica with a 58mm Soviet lens, or with a Praktica 50mm lens.
Street, Voigtlander R4A or R4m At least R4A is on the store. With 21mm of course👍
I'd love to see a combo of wide angle m mount lens and body, 21mm or 15mm if possible. I don't think it's honest that it's sold in person when orders haven't been fulfilled. It doesn't seem honest to me and I don't think I will buy any if I do find some with that being the case. I'd hate to have backed and not received the film and see others being able to buy it. Also from what you've shown it looks to me a lot like lomochrome metropolis; however looking at their website it looks like they intend it to look like ultramax of superia x-tra.
Shoot it with the your leica m3 with a 28mm summicron!
ORWO made color film with their own developing chemicals for the most part until a few years after the USSR fell.-41 a cross-process for ENC-2? I don't know if that's exactly accurate, as both are negative color developers. Maybe you meant E6 reversal/slide film and developing for cross-processing?
Thanks for this opinion video Nico, I am still waiting for my rolls but still hopeful they will arrive one day. I would love to see you shoot it on a camera with good glass and aperture priority for metering because I feel like there is a level of consistency to that method which would be valuable. My choice would be a Nikon FM3A with 50mm 1.2 AIS, but there are many options. For motive, perhaps a mixed bag, definitely some skin tones, shadows vs highlights, points of light..
Agreed!
I think you should shoot it with either a high quality kit like a Leica m with a summicron, since then you can really see what this film is able to provide. The other option would be a Cannon AE 1/Pentax k1000 with the nifty 50 or any ,,basic" slr since those are the cameras that got many of us started, thus we sort of know what to expect. As for the style of shooting: I would love to see a mixture. You have 36 Exposures so why not throw in a few portraits to check for skin tones, shoot some indoors for available light situations. Maybe some street in harsh light and maybe also a bit of landscape. Just give a good mix, I think you won't be able to satisfy every shooting style anyway so a little bit of everything might just be the right compromise. Also please consider the other comments who mention that a print would be nice to check results since scans vary extremely depending on what equipment you use.
As for preordering and not selling: Sketchy and they really need to come forward and give a statement about their situation.
I would love to shoot a roll with my Canon AE-1 Program with a Canon 35-70 F4 zoom. I would shoot both landscape, people, and portraits and compare with my normal stock of Ektar, Pro Image 100, and Kodak Gold. I have a tripod Mount for two cameras that I can shoot side-by-side. If I get this roll I will compare this with Pro Image 100 side-by-side with a Canon A1. I will use the same lens and use the same aperture. It will be a fun shoot.
You get my up-vote! I thought up-votes was part of Reddit not YT!
Minolta x-500 + helios 44-2 street photography
WHERE IS THE REVIEW?
I have seen images of this film but I cannot remember where. I was surprised that another colorfilm has been introduced. If I am not mistaken, the film was produced in Germany then the film is shipped to Shanghai/China for cutting and packaging and then shipped around the world. Kind of wired.
Orwo was a AGFA plant 100km or so south of Berlin. Orwo has become very popular in India (Bollywood), so I have heard. Therefore they could survive many difficult times.
I don't like the film. I think Fuji C200 is much better and I don't like this film either.
What about use it in the ‘new’ Leica M6 and the new 35/1.4? 😊
Looks a bit like Metropolis. I think ORWO has merged with Inoviscoat, which was responsible for making Metropolis for Lomography?
Correct. Filmotec GmbH (ORWO basically) merged with Inoviscoat and another company, hence the restructuring. But no one became bankrupt. On a related note, Inoviscoat is the supplier for ADOX's Color Mission, which as part of the restructuring had to cease their work on that project.
@@studiosnch Maybe ADOX will be able to do the Color Mission all by themselves now. I hope so!
@@michaeldimmitt2188 The goal with Color Mission is to sell it off so ADOX can use tzr funds to develop an entirely-new CN film.
@@studiosnch What do we know about this other new color negative film?
@@michaeldimmitt2188 Nothing yet, but as I said ADOX will develop that from the earnings made from Color Mission.
Can’t trust them. I’ll wait for big stores to have them in stock before I order
I always find it difficult to judge a negative film by a scan. There are so many factors that have an influence how it looks. At least the convertingsoftware is another factor. Would like to see prints from it. These scans looks a bit too harsh and green tinted for me. May be someone likes it this way but i would like to see some daylight shots of colourfull and neutral motives and if possible prints…
This looks like a film that will be less like digital and more like films of 20-30 years ago. Kodak has been playing catch-up with digital photography, for all the wrong reasons... and while there has been great innovation at Kodak because of it, their color films have become rather bland and desaturated. Nico, of course you have got to shoot M6 on the street with this stuff!
Oh, and this film is based on AGFA 320XT, so why it is not marked for 320 ASA/ISO makes no sense, but at least the guy told you the truth.
It looks a whole lot like Lomo Metropolis.
I'd like to see this shot with a Leica M with a Voigtlander 35mm F1.4 MC ii 📷
The "W" in "ORWO" is pronounced as "V" in English.
I’d still like some
I'd like to see the results of this film shot with an Olympus OM1 using a 135mm or 24mm (ish) lens. It's always cool to have another option for film. Have you hear of any chance of this in 120 format?
Keep it simple (if not affordable) : shoot it with a Leica M6 (because eh...that the news of the moment, even an old one will do the job ;-) with a 50mm...
Rollei 35
I would sugest using a Leica M6 with a 35mm F2 ASPH, and doing some Street photography.
Given the “consumer grade” look I’d like to suggest a “reasonably” priced point-and-shoot; like an Olympus XA or a mju. I’m sure it’d compliment the faded 90s look and give a “memory” from yesteryear feel. Shooting it with an slr perhaps would give better results technically, but from the pictures you’ve shown to us I don’t feel technical optimum it’s this film main perk.
I don't mind if they took an opportunity to sell a few directly to people, maybe its an advance batch for quality control checking of the process in their Chinese packager. 500 isn't much maybe they'd rather not have a few rolls go out before the main load is packaged. I will be excited when my rolls arrive, and I am happy to risk some money to give a company a chance to make a new film. :)
Took a bit longer and I've already shot NC500 from another supplier but my order was shipped yesterday super excited, already determined 200ISO is the sweetspot. Can't wait to shot more of it :)
There's something not quite right with this. As some point out it might be some rebranded material, maybe this is not even legit? Not getting any reliable information out of a business is always worrying.
I shot one roll ( Contax G1 and it’s Zeiss 90mm lens)… it’s trash IMO … low contrast , low saturation, not sharp , extremely high grain but not a nice grain …
Please shoot it with some rather generic SLR like Canon AE-1/P, Pentax K-1000 or Olympus OM-10 with basic 50mm to give us a baseline to which can most people relate to.
I'd like it see some daylight street photo and golden hour portraiture.
The side be side comparison with Kodak Gold or Portra would be absolutely awesome too.
Mamiya RZ67 w/ 3d printed 35mm sprocket adapters for panorama 🌚
I think those rolls at the fair "fell off a truck", if you know what I mean. I bet ORWO didn't know that was going on.
That’s bullshit
I ll shoot on my XPAN with 90mm and 45mm ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Nikon F3 with Zeiss 35mm f/2.0 ZF.2 lens. Pre-orders should receive first the film, before it is sold to the general public. It is ethically not correct how they handle the situation. I will not buy this film and support this behavior.
I shot with it on Contax G1 both outdoors available light and in studio with strobes . I’ll update how it looks after I send the roll to lab 🥼
Hi Nico. Thanks for the update. Interesting development. Use either your Nikon F2 or Canon New F-1 attached to a 35mm lens.