i know it's been 7 years but please revisit this project. i'd love to see a remix with all the new bethesda goodness: platinum, backpacks, chests and reliquaries! lol.
Nice !! Because we're already at a further stage.. people don't even realize anymore that there's something horribly wrong with today's games.... we are the few who know.
@@HansLollo I know why 'no one cared', it was honest in the opposite way that the first video was...It was on the pro nice side, instead of making fun of all the things done to make the game more noob friendly etc. Glad you said the monetization can be sickening :) I honestly think if you just make the first video again, but updated in a more '2GD trailer for Diabotical' slanting fashion, thousands of views very quickly!
@@ronniemillsap If it were only that easy. Most of the views came from reddit as far as I remember. If nobody posts anything there = no exposure. And after this video came out, a lot of other people explored the theme to the bitter end ;) Not that I dislike that, I'm not really out for views anyways. I'm just glad I wasn't alone in thinking this crap has gotten stale.
@@HansLollo You, sir, are awarded with 7K views for promotion of another crappy game. The only message you sent with that video was "Hey, BUT it's still like Q3!". U know what's another thing like Q3? Wanna guess? (hint: it's without money sucking and dailies and shit) Of course no one is interested in yet another Bethesda "hey, it's not what you think, we're not milking you for all the world's money under brand we didn't create!" promo, the internets is full of them.
I cannot describe how much I hate that shit at the beginning in modern games. Why every single time a game starts I have to go through a bunch of (often unskippable) advertising of any company remotely involved before I can play? I already paid for the game! I don't care about these companies, I wanna play the game! They are already acknowledged in the credits anyway! And if anything at least make it brief!
crfstewarje Of course there are exceptions smartass, there always are, but the truth is that it is much more prevalent in modern gaming. And I do like and enjoy modern games, that's why I complain about having to go through such tedium to play them, otherwise I wouldn't even bother.
Thats because of consoles. MSony force the developers to do that. Otherweise they are not allowed to publish products on their plattforms. MSony want that because they make the most money with the licences for every game. So they want to sell as many games as possible. And thats their way to make sure, that even the dumbest individual will feel good enough to play. Thats the reason why all our beloved games get dumped down and levels get crippled etc. They call it "accessability". That the magic key word.
All the reviews would be like: "This game is so hard, i couldn't even reach the first boss, 3/10" "FPS Dark Souls" "The story line is pretty lame, and the controls a terrible, 5/10"
The game can't be hard if you have quick save and quick load The game can only be hard if it allows you to save only in certain spots that were pre-placed by creators
This is if it was done in _2011_. If it was done today, in 2015, there would be a 17 minute unskippable and mostly irrelevant cutscene forced on you before any actual game play.
You forgot to add achievements for staring the game. And killing your first enemy. And using a portal. And killing the first boss. And finishing the first level. And generally for doing anything on this plane of existence.
Yeah, this is literally Legacy Console Edition of Minecraft. Compared to Java, where there are literally zero tutorials, these are two very different things
What happened was that games stopped being made for game fans and started being made for the other 6.5 billion people on the planet that couldn't hit the broad side of the great wall of China.
***** with saving game every 1 minute of gameplay any game can be easy... the point is to beat level without saving game, then even in the normal difficulty game can be chellanging. i remember playing some games like that with my father on my childhood, (because we didnt know how to save lol) it was really fun, especially when you died near end of stage, and then, you never knew how long some stage is. playing with saves is kinda... emotionless, no tension. some games onwadays, offer this, and are called "roguelikes" but is even more hardcore.
***** That's not "true" difficulty. It's easy to make a mode, where enemies are 100% accurate, shooting over any distances with zero delay or lag, always knowing where exactly the player is, and to top that - reduce player's health to like 10 percent from the start, see Bioshock's 1999 mode. What is hard for developers, is making enemies MISS in a realistic way, if you ever played with quake 1/2 bots and compared them with modern bots like in CSS, you should know that. What is hard for developers, is making *intrinsically* hard game, and by that standard dark souls is much harder than quake, where you basically have very few variations of monsters, that require very little training in how to handle them.
Well... it's not that different from the original game... The new episode even has a challenge that old ones don't have Which is low ammo, many enemies
Bungie's next project began as a sequel to Pathways into Darkness, but evolved into a futuristic first person shooter called Marathon. Not only did it introduce the rocket jumping mechanic to gamers for the first time (then known as "grenade hopping") - Wikipedia
PseudoPlox ah quake, the game introducing the engine COD still ran on up to a few years ago and possibly still does, I don't keep track anymore. Like I Know they like recycling shit but a modified version of an engine from 1996/5? Goddammit Activision.
Neither. Publishers found out about all those phycological tricks for monetization and the tool box for making money got bigger and bigger. And at some point making the actual game is the smallest part in actually designing the game, while adding all those bullshit things like achievements, dailies, lootboxes, endorphin kicks unrelated to the actual gameplay or gamer skill, etc became the main tools to hook a customer to a product. Making games itself has become secondary to all those ways that makes money. Publishers always had been greedy, but the methods are way more refined, the audience has a pretty high tolerance to bullshit these days and gaming is much more mainstream, so the appeal needs to be different for tripple A games anyway. There are still a lot of good games made, but they might be more niche than they had been 20 years ago and they never will make as much money as the blockbuster bullshit. Josh Strife Hayes nails it pretty well imho: th-cam.com/video/g16heGLKlTA/w-d-xo.html
Fast paced? ehhh maaaybe if you are tracer or genji. Skillfull? NOPE. you dont even need a good aim to hit anybody. the hitboxes are twice the size of the model....
I actually think it's harder to hit people in Overwatch. In games like Quake and Unreal, you really feel a sense of accomplishment for learning the game and it feels skillful when you get kills. So, you actually want to hit your opponents. It's quite hard to hit your opponents in Overwatch when you don't have the will to even try.
Ha, ha, absolutely brilliant. Love it. I'm an "oldie" too (now mid 30's been computer gaming for 25 years). The general "dumbing down" and increasingly treating PC gamers like dribbling idiots has been extremely obvious over the past 15 years. I don't want a "scripted cinematic experience" - I want a game with decent fun gameplay. We all know exactly what "streamlined for a more casual audience" means in reality...
dude, videogames do not require skill. never did. you're clicking a fucking mouse, moving a dot 2-3 cm around a fucking screen. if you want skill, go outside and try to pick up a beautiful lady. you will shit your pants, I guarantee it. fuck videogames, they're drugs.
Zelousmarineinspace www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1065442-dubstep-music-a-new-trend-for-video-game-trailers/ Dubstep is basically that "wub wub wub" music you hear in all the movie and video game trailers these days... especially in the dudebro games... the AAA games, CODs, Battlefields, etc. You know, in case you weren't being sarcastic...
***** Starting at 1:19, imagine someone moving and aiming, not so accurately, with the sticks on an Xbox controller, then compare it to the end of the video where he's doing the accurate rocket-jumping stunts, a hallmark of the mouse and keyboard era. Again, not sure if the author intended this, but it sure fits with the rest of the video!
+Psycho Machinery If you like that, then you will like Counter Strike Nexon: Zombies Its just CS with more modes, maps and better graphics. Its also running in the same engine and has every single feature that 1.6 had.
That quake clip at the end looks thrilling and more entertaining than the tripe of today, enough to make me wanna play right NOW. But COD kids will whine because "it's old" and "teh garphics arent real nuff"
So based on what you say, someone should just really make that modern Old game (exactly what i have been saying also)? So the kids would say "omg diz gaims nu, nd has gaawd graffixz".
The footage in the end is actually footage from a Quake speedrun titled Quake Done Quickest. Its really interesting for me because I casually speedrun Quake. But the vast majority of people that got the game didn't play it like that.
FpsGamer43 Regardless of whether or not most people don't play like that, it does in a way show off the prevalence of emergent gameplay that was in games like Doom or Quake that doesn't rally exist in most modern fps.
I'm gonna list the amount of this that's true for Doom 4 Unskippable company logos: Yes. Lame Options: No. DLC: Yes. All Easy Difficulties: Fuck No. Obnoxious Crosshairs: Not really. Move it messages: No. Messages telling you you can't go somewhere: No. Game telling you to shoot enemies: No. Lame shooting: Fuck no. Intense gun kickback: No. Return to Combat Zone messages: Fuck no. Easy/Lame boss encounters: Fuck no. So bottom line, Doom 4 isn't 100% completely perfect, but it's still really damn fun and it's waaaay better than what we could've gotten.
***** LOL you only played the first like 20 minutes and gave up. Anyone who's played the full thing knows that Doom 4 is one of the most hardcore games to come out in years and pays TRUE respect to oldschool shooters like Quake and Doom :)
I think you mean: Kickass shooting: YES Linear level design: Barely Hardcore soundtrack: Yes (Like you said, subjective) Weapons that feel powerful because of what they do to the enemies (Rather then making you pinball around all day): Yes. Optional upgrades that make you more powerful (Or you can ignore them), yes. And I'm guessing you didn't see the many collectibles and upgrades in the alternate paths (Or just forgot that the original doom's alternate paths worked in prettymuch the same way) Also, I would like to know what difficulty you played Doom on and how many times you died during it.
***** 1. I played the originals 2. You can see the hazards of the level well in advance, and I don't see what you mean by "places that didn't look like they would be blocked off" 3. How could you say they're linear when the maps are generally sprawling and containing multiple secrets and different paths? 4. I'm gonna call bullshit on that as on Nightmare, generally taking 1 or 2 hits would kill you.
***** They tell you where the secrets are if you use the map (And upgraded it to see the items), and it still excludes the classic maps. The only ledges I think you can't climb on seem to be the ones leading outside the map (Like a lot of adventure games), and the "Dead end" Nature of the map secrets is literally how the original doom(s) did it. Were you expecting a sandbox with multiple level exits?
@@HansLollo You'd think by now they'd just have a splash screen of "these companies own this" then let you play the damn game. They're punishing their most avid fans by forcing them to sit through that shit again & again.
I just deleted the videos from the folder and i'm kinda surprised it worked. I wish i could delete the forced bethesda login though, i'm offline and i have to wait 20 seconds just to tell me connection error.
@@shade221 How so? It pretty much explains everything you need to know quickly. Plus, you can just turn in game tutorials off if you don't want them. That's what I did my first playthrough.
This _could_ have been a clever satire of how much easier games are today than back in the day, but this video gets almost everything backwards and wrong. For instance: - No, graphics settings are most certainly _not_ simpler today than they were in the time of Quake. In fact, it's the exact opposite. Most typical PC first-person shooters today have a lot more graphical options than Quake did. - Difficulty levels in modern first-person shooters are not significantly easier than in the days of Quake. In some games they are in fact much harder (even frustratingly so.) - No, crosshairs are not today larger than they were in the time of Quake. Possibly the opposite. - No, gameplay is not interrupted by fullscreen hint views in any game I'm aware of. In fact, any kind of hints are actually relatively rare in modern games. - Not many games forbid the player from going "in the wrong direction" so explicitly. At most they might have eg. closed doors or impassable terrain. They certainly don't tell the player. - The concept of a "combat zone" that you had to remain inside happens in a few games, but it's mostly a dead horse trope. It's almost never used in modern linear first-person shooters. (It might be used in some open sandbox games.) - Bosses can be frustratingly difficult in modern games. There aren't many exceptions. This satire fails completely. It's not smart at all. It gets everything wrong.
***** It's exaggerated _in the wrong direction_. In other words, rather than being a satire of how modern games _actually_ are, it's satirizing the exact opposite. The satire doesn't work. It's a failure.
WarpRulez It's "satirizing" bad games made by greedy companies for stupid customers. The fact that you fail to grasp such basic concepts is astounding.
It's actually scary how true this video is. Halo 5 (a game that's part of a franchise that used to be unique, original and amazing) is going to have cosmetic aim-down-sights. It's actually very sad to see how the quality of games is getting objectively worse as time goes on.
srty srtyy m$ bought an 80pc game to push the original xbox. (nothing unique, original or amazing). what ground breaking have they done exactly in the years since. nothing. zero. halo two was crippled to be vista only! halo 3 was halo 2.5! money grabbing on the way. but what have they expanded upon. zero effort. I agree with you how scary it is. Quake was a pure gamers platform. Quake 2 should be considered as the first COD. (as in playing to the 'kids' (at least you had to aim back then) ) QuakeLive was a gamers platform, but not now what steam has on offer.
RevanBladeZ The ADS in Halo 5 isn't optional. There's no toggle for the classic zoom, and they've changed the way it functions by adding significantly tighter spread when aiming down the sights.
I don't know, sometimes I like to speed through FPS games, and sometimes I like the methodical approach of hiding behind cover and picking off enemies one by one. Variety helps.
Not really. Bioshock had a slower pace. In games like Half-Life and Quake, you ran everywhere, basically. Bioshock, took influence from early sci-fi survival horror game Systemshock, which had a lot slower pace and utilized the more RPG elements that were reflected in Bioshock's gameplay. Because of its roots in early survival horror, Bioshock's pace is a lot slower.
Hey, you should update this to 2013/14 where games have sidekick characters telling you how to solve every single part of every puzzle 50 times per minute and the camera flies away in every room to show you all the points of interest (or not), and where you only have 3 options in the menu on the screen at the same time, and where the screen effects are more abundant than the bullets fired, and everytime you can perform an action a message appears on the screen reminding you of the key for it, every time you kill something a message pops up with how many point you gained from it, and the HUD elements (messages and points included) take 80% of the screen. :) I would do it, but it would take a while until I learned to mod quake in the first place. Best I could do would be a HL2 version of it, which I knew how to mod once...
skaruts. All i have to say for you, is DO IT. Please do it and you will be one of the people helping in games getting better. If you do it, your video will get my "Like" to it. Please feel free to also check out my videos, since i have some very relevant videos also.
another thing.. i'd love to see Id Software make a sequel to Quake 3 Arena.. no cut scenes, no scripting, no voice acting.. just arenas with cool weapons and deathtraps to kill each other in ;)
Check out 'Doom 3 Alpha' Gameplay on youtube, it actually looks better then the final version! I thought Doom 3 was okay, the graphics were amazing at the time and I think the lighting gave it a good atmosphere, but it wasn't as action packed as Doom II I just hope Doom 4 is gonna be like Doom II, I pray to god every night they don't fuck it up!
oh I saw the alpha.. I even had a bootleg copy of it! lol it was definitely better than the final game. creepier and more atmospheric. honestly though i wonder if they didnt downgrade the graphics a bit because they knew they would eventually port it over to xbox. that's probably the main reason PC gamers hate consoles. Because we all saw a decline in the quality of PC games once the devs started aiming for the lowest common denominator
That would be nice that someone would step up to the task, of delivering a DOOM style mazelike fastpaced truly fun FPS. No-one has really even tried. I'm talking DOOM1-like game (fast movement, no ads, no regen, no sprint, no weaponlimit, no friendly npc's, no linearity, need to use keycards, need to solve puzzles, truly different weapons..). That would sell, i'm telling you. It would sell because no-one has even tried making a true FPS. All that has been released and while some have been good, none of them have truly tried to re-create 90's real FPS with todays amazing technolgy.
Alex Eny Hell yes it is. I hate all these new slowpaced consoleshooters where you have to sprint and then stop like an idiot so that you can ADS and hit something. I rather it be about pure skill and run&gun since it takes more skill to shoot while moving. No noob friendly "you gotta stop and aimdownsights to hit shit".
I wish they made more games like this nowadays... Unreal Tournament attempted to keep going, and did pretty well for quite some time. I just wish they would stop to poor state the FPSs are in now and continue Quake. It was one of the best games ever made in my opinion.
They better start developing it soon, cause I'm getting tired of all this CoD, Halo, and Battlefield shiz... Just the same old stuff over, and over, and over.... Just better graphics...
+Jacob S :( you did'nt do the bunny hopping thing wtf that was at least half the fun!,i did it,Wait Your got to be kidding your messing with us right ?
Made me laugh (something i rarely do), then strangely nostalgic by the thought of the correct fov (93? 102?), bunnyjumping, rocketjumping, teleporting and thunderbolting 3-dimensional from the air. But, old and wise: "The grass is always greener..." Someone would seriously kill you to obtain a todays low-cost computer, at that time.
this would have been a lot better if you didn't include the guy in the background getting mad at the game. it is basically the equivalent of a big bang theory laugh track, except it's "THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE MAD AT GUYS"
+Qweekskowped they don't release games for like 5 years and they said that "online-only and multiplayer is the future" ...,i think valve already get affected(this was said by gaben)
Lol.. just the other day, i was telling some raging squeeker about the days when i had to take my computer over to a friends house for a LAN party, to play quake against a few other friends at the same house. And, it took me eight hours to download the full game over a 56k modem. I had to do it over night to ensure that nobody would try to make a phone call and cause the download to cancel.
This is literally how i feel about the FPS genre today. I don't like to brag about my age on the internet, but i'm only 15 and I think games like Quake and UT are INFINITELY better to play than Call of Duty or Halo or whatever generic trash my gaming generation plays (I'll exempt Battlefield 4 from this shitty category due to its insane amount of content and admittedly cool weapons and vehicles.) Long live the old-school/arena FPS. This is why i'm glad the new Doom isn't total shit: it might not be CLOSE to the originals in terms of awesomeness but at least the single player feels like a fucking doom game. Not to mention a "proper" fps.
Ya most modern fps shooters suck and are slow as fuck. You want a game that plays and feels like quake, but plays like a modern shooter then go play Urban Terror. People still play that game by the thousands and guess what... its free.
You think? I think we had a great renaissance of classic style FPS. Doom 2016 and Eternal, Ion Fury, Dusk, Ultrakill, Amid Evil, Cultic, Turbo Overkill... Also the modding scene of the Doom community is more alive than ever, creating marvelous total conversions for free like Pirate Doom, Ashes 2063, new versions of Brutal Doom with a custom campaign, Aliens Eradication, Total Chaos, Myhouse.wad (not even counting the classics that we had before those)... You also have a great free campaign for Blood called Death Wish with new episodes every few years. And you also have great indie FPS with very interesting concepts like Cruelty Squad or Mullet Mad Jack. Oh and you also have great remasters by Nightdive studios. So I think it's a great time for FPS fans.
I love how you use speedrunning as example of proper FPS experience. Because thats how you should play those, use exploits to skip as much fight its possible and not enjoy levels.
You forgot ultra-realistic game graphics that still lots of people complain "it's not that good", plus more time in cutscenes than in game itself, plus no vertical madness (oh, I do miss the rocket jumps shortcuts), plus HD version, plus "new game plus" (which makes the game even way more easier of the easiest easies).
+emcosta1981 It's funny how the older graphics from '90s games are simple enough that they leave a lot to your imagination, which I think is better in some ways than today's graphics that try to "push the limits." Like you say, it will never be "good enough" for the modern crowd, because it's just more and more of the same. It's kind of like how a lot of old movies left the horror or violence to your imagination instead of showing it graphically and brutally, a style that Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight seemed to recapture extremely well. It's also like the times back when people still read books. People would usually opine that most (not all, mind you) movie adaptations of novels weren't as good as the book. "The book is better than the movie." It was because the MIND is a much more powerful processor than any GPU, no matter how advanced it may be.
What happens when you strip away all the good looking ultra HD graphics, super detailed background environments and cutscenes from any AAA shooter game? You're pretty much left with this.
Just so you know bunny hopping was not intended. But rocket jumping was (as can be evidenced by a secret intended to be reached by it on one of the episode 4 maps of Quake 1's single player). If you look at some of the earliest LAN tournaments of competitive gaming history (such as Red Annihilation) most of the pro players (including Thresh) didn't even make use of bunnyhopping as it hadn't really been realized to its full potential that early into the genre. Rocket jumping however had been (as you will see multiple players rocket jump to the YA on maps like E1M2) but you won't once see them bunnyhopping. So before any of you bash Quake 1, it's flaws only added to the game. All of the new COD games (and most modern FPS games) have flaws that only hurt the game, not help. Tired of seeing people act like they know what they are talking about and either bash the 90's/early 2000's titles and/or this video without proper merit. Peace...
Quake war aus passion und Wille zur Innovation gemacht. "Call for Money: Recycled Warfare" ist halt nur dafür da, dass sich die Bosse der Firmen, die die Spiele herstellen , sich jedes Jahr nen neuen Benz for die Hütte stellen können, als zweckloser Versuch ihren Winzpimmel zu kompenieren. >nuff said.
Just a name, I used to be short as a kid, so people called me "underdog". Now I'm about average but the name kinda stuck, so I named my YT channel Underbrony.
Nope, I used to name myself Blank Flank on TH-cam (MLP's name for ponies who haven't found their purpose in life / special talent yet). But now that this doen't apply anymore, I changed it to this. There's no trickery or anything. Thats just a personal anecdote
I miss the olden days in the 90's.. Just getting Doom to work on a 486 DX266 with 4mb ram requiring QEMM to configure config.sys and autoexec.bat to release the base memory.. You kids have got it SO easy!
Had I known QEMM back then I'd surely used it. I used to configure autoexec.bat and config.sys by hand, sometimes with lots of try and error...! Thinking about that time, I really miss this rewarding feeling when you finally succeeded in running you favourite game with all your gaming-hardware + soundcard correctly configured !
What, why does the action start instantly? You must past through at least 20 cutscenes, 10 vignettes and 1/2 tutorial sequences before even seeing an enemy, let alone shoot it. Awesome though.
That's why games have difficulty level. 99% times it's slightly twitching health of monsters when it should actually be Easy for kids and beginners, Normal to be interesting and balanced and Hard to provide challenge impossible to casual players. And what I hate the most about new games is restrictions. As if allowing people to have fun and control the character freely is a new type of crime. Every dialogue takes control away, there are closed areas, not blocked by a natural obstacle but simply shielded with a holo-wall. One could say as long as companies make money off their games they should try and make it FOR gamers and what I see is any mod makes the game better and people buying DVDs are punished with tons and tons of security checks and ads. So to say, they do everything to kill own industry. Or... rather have done. It's just sad.
we got a larger audience that's what happened, it just so happened that a majority of that audience are idiots. I'm 15 and when I go to school everyone is always bragging about how they have COD AW and making fun of those who don't have the most popular games and shy away from any game that isn't an indie horror game. This is where we are right now, and that's pathetic.
Joseph Charles You just gotta stand up to them and if there is anyway you can get them to try play Quake 3 Arena forexample online and you can have good time watch you friends get totally rekt :) Seriously though, quake is basically the most skillbased fps game in the world and if your friends got all their skills from cod, they cant do shit in quake.. But the opposite is possible though. Anyone who comes from quake to cod, isn't doing terrible.
Joseph Charles All the while they are missing out on fantastic things such as Freelancer, The good warhammer 40,000 titles, freelancer, the mechwarrior franchise, mass effect, and all kinds of shit. It makes me sad
GravityZero for me its not even that that gets me with mass erect. Its the sheer amount of laziness that is clearly seen throughout the trilogy if you pay attention. So many inconsistencies in the writing alone not to mention alot of non cohesive shit going on with the NPC's and characters and enemies
So true..my neighbor once came over to play.. He wasn't used to playing with keyboard and mouse and he kept running in walls, bumping into corners...over and over, to same... Bruuuurp....excuse me, I gotta go barf..
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i know it's been 7 years but please revisit this project. i'd love to see a remix with all the new bethesda goodness: platinum, backpacks, chests and reliquaries! lol.
Hey, I actually did. Nobody gives a crap though :D th-cam.com/video/bDgRpOKVzoM/w-d-xo.html
Nice !! Because we're already at a further stage.. people don't even realize anymore that there's something horribly wrong with today's games.... we are the few who know.
@@HansLollo I know why 'no one cared', it was honest in the opposite way that the first video was...It was on the pro nice side, instead of making fun of all the things done to make the game more noob friendly etc. Glad you said the monetization can be sickening :) I honestly think if you just make the first video again, but updated in a more '2GD trailer for Diabotical' slanting fashion, thousands of views very quickly!
@@ronniemillsap If it were only that easy. Most of the views came from reddit as far as I remember. If nobody posts anything there = no exposure. And after this video came out, a lot of other people explored the theme to the bitter end ;) Not that I dislike that, I'm not really out for views anyways. I'm just glad I wasn't alone in thinking this crap has gotten stale.
@@HansLollo You, sir, are awarded with 7K views for promotion of another crappy game. The only message you sent with that video was "Hey, BUT it's still like Q3!". U know what's another thing like Q3? Wanna guess? (hint: it's without money sucking and dailies and shit)
Of course no one is interested in yet another Bethesda "hey, it's not what you think, we're not milking you for all the world's money under brand we didn't create!" promo, the internets is full of them.
"Pro tip: To kill the Cyberdemon, shoot it until it dies!"
Yes.
That’s from Doom but I’ll allow it 😊
@@enneff Actually you have to use the soul cube on it after charging it by shooting the lesser daemons that spawn, but i'll also allow it.
@@parakmi1 That's from Doom 3 and not Doom 1 and 2, but I will allow it.
This is actually in doom eternal
I cannot describe how much I hate that shit at the beginning in modern games. Why every single time a game starts I have to go through a bunch of (often unskippable) advertising of any company remotely involved before I can play? I already paid for the game! I don't care about these companies, I wanna play the game! They are already acknowledged in the credits anyway! And if anything at least make it brief!
crfstewarje
Of course there are exceptions smartass, there always are, but the truth is that it is much more prevalent in modern gaming. And I do like and enjoy modern games, that's why I complain about having to go through such tedium to play them, otherwise I wouldn't even bother.
crfstewarje
WE COMPLAIN BECAUSE WE CARE
That´s why on the PC I google for every possible "no intro" fix or something like that.
"feh, those assholes are already in the credits!"
**skips credits**
Thats because of consoles. MSony force the developers to do that. Otherweise they are not allowed to publish products on their plattforms. MSony want that because they make the most money with the licences for every game. So they want to sell as many games as possible. And thats their way to make sure, that even the dumbest individual will feel good enough to play.
Thats the reason why all our beloved games get dumped down and levels get crippled etc. They call it "accessability". That the magic key word.
No achievement for killing the first enemy? Lame!
Got a free trial for COD infinite warfare last month: got an achievement for watching the first cut scene. What a joke.
Really? That's over stupid, it's just... AH I can't believe it ._.
It's 2011 movie
I like to think Dark Souls II's Achievement for dying for the first time was a deliberate reference to this very thing lol.
nelson gibson achievement means no refund
All the reviews would be like:
"This game is so hard, i couldn't even reach the first boss, 3/10"
"FPS Dark Souls"
"The story line is pretty lame, and the controls a terrible, 5/10"
The game can't be hard if you have quick save and quick load
The game can only be hard if it allows you to save only in certain spots that were pre-placed by creators
A reminder: in Geometry Dash, quicksaving is called Practice mode
Not even "easy mode"
Just a practice, not an actual completion
This is if it was done in _2011_. If it was done today, in 2015, there would be a 17 minute unskippable and mostly irrelevant cutscene forced on you before any actual game play.
+Jay Man and a non-skippable dog companion
+MrSatanislav you can just not walk near the dog.. or send him home.. or like literally anything.
+MrSatanislav and then press A to pay respects.
+Jay Man That would be a Quake made by Kojima.
Just like how Bethesda raped Fallout.
You forgot to add achievements for staring the game. And killing your first enemy. And using a portal. And killing the first boss. And finishing the first level. And generally for doing anything on this plane of existence.
And plugging in the controller 🤪
Quake remastered 2021 *has* achievements!
Yeah, this is literally Legacy Console Edition of Minecraft.
Compared to Java, where there are literally zero tutorials, these are two very different things
This video came out _five years ago_
_And it's still relevant_
Cause it ain't getting better, son
10 years ago now, things have gotten a bit better though!
"Watch bots do it" That explains it all xD
What happened was that games stopped being made for game fans and started being made for the other 6.5 billion people on the planet that couldn't hit the broad side of the great wall of China.
+Emmitt Nervend best comment ever. Need that on a T-Shirt. This should go Viral. XD
+Emmitt Nervend yeah the times when the games were for the ultimate hardcore underground ELITE not freaking kids, and ordniary plebeians.
+Emmitt Nervend Huh. I don't remember Quake ever reaching Dark Souls' level of difficulty.
***** with saving game every 1 minute of gameplay any game can be easy... the point is to beat level without saving game, then even in the normal difficulty game can be chellanging. i remember playing some games like that with my father on my childhood, (because we didnt know how to save lol) it was really fun, especially when you died near end of stage, and then, you never knew how long some stage is. playing with saves is kinda... emotionless, no tension. some games onwadays, offer this, and are called "roguelikes" but is even more hardcore.
***** That's not "true" difficulty.
It's easy to make a mode, where enemies are 100% accurate, shooting over any distances with zero delay or lag, always knowing where exactly the player is, and to top that - reduce player's health to like 10 percent from the start, see Bioshock's 1999 mode.
What is hard for developers, is making enemies MISS in a realistic way, if you ever played with quake 1/2 bots and compared them with modern bots like in CSS, you should know that.
What is hard for developers, is making *intrinsically* hard game, and by that standard dark souls is much harder than quake, where you basically have very few variations of monsters, that require very little training in how to handle them.
When I first ran the Quake the 25th anniversary remaster, I immediately recolletcted this video and started laughing until I cried.
Well... it's not that different from the original game...
The new episode even has a challenge that old ones don't have
Which is low ammo, many enemies
Comment OP is doing the Pedro Pascual Laugh to Crying gif
quake is one of the best games ever.
Absolutely !
Well yes... but actually no.
Not even close. Significant in game history though.
yes but some idiots think the game is bad because of the graphics
Jimmy Tsonga and the Shimmy Congas Nah it’s genuinely one of the best FPS games ever made
Ah, Quake. The game that influenced Half-Life and Team Fortress, and the reason why we have rocket-jumping.
+PseudoPlox So they took the TF2 rocket jump from Quake?
+Qweekskowped Yes. Look it up if you don't believe me.
All hail the soldier
Bungie's next project began as a sequel to Pathways into Darkness, but evolved into a futuristic first person shooter called Marathon. Not only did it introduce the rocket jumping mechanic to gamers for the first time (then known as "grenade hopping") - Wikipedia
PseudoPlox ah quake, the game introducing the engine COD still ran on up to a few years ago and possibly still does, I don't keep track anymore.
Like I Know they like recycling shit but a modified version of an engine from 1996/5? Goddammit Activision.
What really happened...people got dumber or lazier...and developers got greedier. Money > Game Quality
Neither.
Publishers found out about all those phycological tricks for monetization and the tool box for making money got bigger and bigger. And at some point making the actual game is the smallest part in actually designing the game, while adding all those bullshit things like achievements, dailies, lootboxes, endorphin kicks unrelated to the actual gameplay or gamer skill, etc became the main tools to hook a customer to a product.
Making games itself has become secondary to all those ways that makes money. Publishers always had been greedy, but the methods are way more refined, the audience has a pretty high tolerance to bullshit these days and gaming is much more mainstream, so the appeal needs to be different for tripple A games anyway.
There are still a lot of good games made, but they might be more niche than they had been 20 years ago and they never will make as much money as the blockbuster bullshit.
Josh Strife Hayes nails it pretty well imho:
th-cam.com/video/g16heGLKlTA/w-d-xo.html
The end statement was so cool man. "When I was your age, we rocket jumped all the way to school". Hahah
snake698 *IN BOILING LAVA*
I honestly had to come watch this again after people told me Overwatch is a fast paced and skillfull game.
Fast paced? ehhh maaaybe if you are tracer or genji.
Skillfull? NOPE. you dont even need a good aim to hit anybody. the hitboxes are twice the size of the model....
I actually think it's harder to hit people in Overwatch. In games like Quake and Unreal, you really feel a sense of accomplishment for learning the game and it feels skillful when you get kills. So, you actually want to hit your opponents. It's quite hard to hit your opponents in Overwatch when you don't have the will to even try.
Fast paced? Skillful? *wheeze*
this hurts very bad
i heard people saying things like "another trash mouse and keyboard fps" and "how can a fps be playable if their is no leveling system"
Don't forget... every 10 metres will have a cutscene, flashback cutscene, or cutscene of a flashback cutscene.
Ha, ha, absolutely brilliant. Love it. I'm an "oldie" too (now mid 30's been computer gaming for 25 years). The general "dumbing down" and increasingly treating PC gamers like dribbling idiots has been extremely obvious over the past 15 years. I don't want a "scripted cinematic experience" - I want a game with decent fun gameplay. We all know exactly what "streamlined for a more casual audience" means in reality...
why is your name brian simpson my man
I’ve always found this video kind of ironic, considering the first boss in Quake poses no threat to the player and is defeated by pressing buttons.
in my days, we didn't had slowed down time to aim: we had enough skill to hit an insect flying at 10 km from our position... with a shotgun.
Shotguns are nooby, railguns are where it's at!
dude, videogames do not require skill. never did. you're clicking a fucking mouse, moving a dot 2-3 cm around a fucking screen.
if you want skill, go outside and try to pick up a beautiful lady. you will shit your pants, I guarantee it. fuck videogames, they're drugs.
Yeah definitely 👌
Nailgun....
IN BOILING LAVA
We can thank Call of Doodie for this...
halo with its regenerating healthbar
So true!
Battle(non)sense do you still stand by that today now that the games market has matured in some aspects
2022 you have to download a 50GB patch before the game is even playable.
So the 2021 remaster; the opening logos can't be skipped. You totally called it
I would honestly take those logos over everything else Bethesda could’ve messed up
But you can, just hit the Esc button.
You forgot the dubstep.
And the hitscan weapons
tNEOXXI Define your version of hitscan weapons, since hitscan is what bullet based weapons are ever since wolf 3d...
what the hell is "dubstep" is it a dubbing device that forreners step on when they are recording their language translation of an english film?
Zelousmarineinspace www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1065442-dubstep-music-a-new-trend-for-video-game-trailers/
Dubstep is basically that "wub wub wub" music you hear in all the movie and video game trailers these days... especially in the dudebro games... the AAA games, CODs, Battlefields, etc. You know, in case you weren't being sarcastic...
EarthCrash Yeah, hitscan's been around ever since multiplayer's existed, really.
Not sure if it was intentional, but I love the subtle touch of how it looks like the player was using a gamepad rather than a mouse and keyboard. :P
Ooook, let's start with "console is for n00bz because i use pc".
Pasta DellaNonna Lol, yeah!
Where would you even get that from?
***** Starting at 1:19, imagine someone moving and aiming, not so accurately, with the sticks on an Xbox controller, then compare it to the end of the video where he's doing the accurate rocket-jumping stunts, a hallmark of the mouse and keyboard era. Again, not sure if the author intended this, but it sure fits with the rest of the video!
fountainhead It was intended =)
Old school FPS > current crappy ones
I'm sorry but have you played Counter Strike Global offensive? TF2? No?
I still prefer the 1.6 version, when it was funny for real to me, quite frankly
1.6 still is great but Global offensive is polished to a mirror sheen down to the base mechanics
+Psycho Machinery If you like that, then you will like Counter Strike Nexon: Zombies
Its just CS with more modes, maps and better graphics. Its also running in the same engine and has every single feature that 1.6 had.
Thanks for the info, i'll look for it
To be completely fair, that boss fight isn't MUCH different to the actual boss fight of episode 1
Looks like "QuakeLive" is going in this direction...
Ho seguito il tuo link, e ti ritrovo qua :D
Hai ragione Ice, Quake>>>Cod
Minchia Christain Airte sei ovunque!
Yep.
Going in? Quakelive was doomed from the get-go.
That quake clip at the end looks thrilling and more entertaining than the tripe of today, enough to make me wanna play right NOW. But COD kids will whine because "it's old" and "teh garphics arent real nuff"
So based on what you say, someone should just really make that modern Old game (exactly what i have been saying also)? So the kids would say "omg diz gaims nu, nd has gaawd graffixz".
Y no autoheal?
The footage in the end is actually footage from a Quake speedrun titled Quake Done Quickest. Its really interesting for me because I casually speedrun Quake. But the vast majority of people that got the game didn't play it like that.
I like unreal graphics
FpsGamer43
Regardless of whether or not most people don't play like that, it does in a way show off the prevalence of emergent gameplay that was in games like Doom or Quake that doesn't rally exist in most modern fps.
I'm gonna list the amount of this that's true for Doom 4
Unskippable company logos: Yes.
Lame Options: No.
DLC: Yes.
All Easy Difficulties: Fuck No.
Obnoxious Crosshairs: Not really.
Move it messages: No.
Messages telling you you can't go somewhere: No.
Game telling you to shoot enemies: No.
Lame shooting: Fuck no.
Intense gun kickback: No.
Return to Combat Zone messages: Fuck no.
Easy/Lame boss encounters: Fuck no.
So bottom line, Doom 4 isn't 100% completely perfect, but it's still really damn fun and it's waaaay better than what we could've gotten.
***** LOL you only played the first like 20 minutes and gave up.
Anyone who's played the full thing knows that Doom 4 is one of the most hardcore games to come out in years and pays TRUE respect to oldschool shooters like Quake and Doom :)
I think you mean:
Kickass shooting: YES
Linear level design: Barely
Hardcore soundtrack: Yes (Like you said, subjective)
Weapons that feel powerful because of what they do to the enemies (Rather then making you pinball around all day): Yes.
Optional upgrades that make you more powerful (Or you can ignore them), yes.
And I'm guessing you didn't see the many collectibles and upgrades in the alternate paths (Or just forgot that the original doom's alternate paths worked in prettymuch the same way)
Also, I would like to know what difficulty you played Doom on and how many times you died during it.
*****
1. I played the originals
2. You can see the hazards of the level well in advance, and I don't see what you mean by "places that didn't look like they would be blocked off"
3. How could you say they're linear when the maps are generally sprawling and containing multiple secrets and different paths?
4. I'm gonna call bullshit on that as on Nightmare, generally taking 1 or 2 hits would kill you.
*****
They tell you where the secrets are if you use the map (And upgraded it to see the items), and it still excludes the classic maps.
The only ledges I think you can't climb on seem to be the ones leading outside the map (Like a lot of adventure games), and the "Dead end" Nature of the map secrets is literally how the original doom(s) did it. Were you expecting a sandbox with multiple level exits?
*****
Oh, and there were multiple ledges I climbed on that didn't have green lights...
Aaaand today the first part of this video became reality, lol.
This video just became surprisingly relevant.
Best fucking video on the web.
I'm sorry, but the best fucking video on the web is Raw #14 Mia Malkova and Manuel Ferrara
Tip: Explore!
RETURN TO THE BATTLEFIELD
lol
LMAO you really predicted the future with those intro videos!
I don't get it either. You'd think that they would have reconsidered that move, but nope... straight back to the predictable BS again.
@@HansLollo You'd think by now they'd just have a splash screen of "these companies own this" then let you play the damn game. They're punishing their most avid fans by forcing them to sit through that shit again & again.
I just deleted the videos from the folder and i'm kinda surprised it worked.
I wish i could delete the forced bethesda login though, i'm offline and i have to wait 20 seconds just to tell me connection error.
Booted up the quake remaster today and burst out laughing when I skipped the fifth or so video because I remembered this. Spot on 10 years ago!
I loved Call of Duty 4.
I just hate that every game wanted to be it.
u such an idiot :) were do you think call of dutty came from noob?
Thierry Louis Halo dumazz. Halo was teh 1st fsp.
Talon Ek ... Wolfenstein...
Talon Ek You can't be serious.
Of course I'm not serious. Everyone knows halo is a bad ripoff of call of duty lol
"HINT: This is a boss encounter! Be smart!" lmao XD
Graphics on/off :P hahaa :D
With graphics off the game was alot faster and could run even in old pcs. I ran it on my 386DX without even a sound card.
I am convinced that somebody watched this video and say "HELL NO!" because now, in 2022, the rerelease is really good.
That aged well...
i mean Bethesda DID get involved in the new DOOM lol, this video nearly called it
I need to make a video about Quake Champions...
Bethesda only published it. They did nothing with the development
It also called ADS
@@shade221 ?
@@shade221 How so? It pretty much explains everything you need to know quickly.
Plus, you can just turn in game tutorials off if you don't want them. That's what I did my first playthrough.
What happened is videogames stopped being ''nerd stuff'' and started to be made for spoiled teens who couldn't hit an Argentinosaurus.
great wall of China**********
Argentinosaurs, great wall of China, to each his own.
CapMar-Vell92 Returns one is embarrassment. One is total annihilation of self worth :p
You made me google "Argentinosaurus". That's one big fucking dinosaur right there!
arhentinosaurus
This _could_ have been a clever satire of how much easier games are today than back in the day, but this video gets almost everything backwards and wrong. For instance:
- No, graphics settings are most certainly _not_ simpler today than they were in the time of Quake. In fact, it's the exact opposite. Most typical PC first-person shooters today have a lot more graphical options than Quake did.
- Difficulty levels in modern first-person shooters are not significantly easier than in the days of Quake. In some games they are in fact much harder (even frustratingly so.)
- No, crosshairs are not today larger than they were in the time of Quake. Possibly the opposite.
- No, gameplay is not interrupted by fullscreen hint views in any game I'm aware of. In fact, any kind of hints are actually relatively rare in modern games.
- Not many games forbid the player from going "in the wrong direction" so explicitly. At most they might have eg. closed doors or impassable terrain. They certainly don't tell the player.
- The concept of a "combat zone" that you had to remain inside happens in a few games, but it's mostly a dead horse trope. It's almost never used in modern linear first-person shooters. (It might be used in some open sandbox games.)
- Bosses can be frustratingly difficult in modern games. There aren't many exceptions.
This satire fails completely. It's not smart at all. It gets everything wrong.
Ignorant much?
ssbj144
Please elaborate.
It's over exaggerated on purpose. Nothing in the video should be seen as literal as you interpreted it.
*****
It's exaggerated _in the wrong direction_. In other words, rather than being a satire of how modern games _actually_ are, it's satirizing the exact opposite. The satire doesn't work. It's a failure.
WarpRulez It's "satirizing" bad games made by greedy companies for stupid customers. The fact that you fail to grasp such basic concepts is astounding.
Yes! Brilliant people still around. Thank god!
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Coming Generations wont be able to walkthrough what our elders have invented.
Laughed my ass off xD and then I got sad, because it's true... WTF happened to games nowadays? Ehhhhh
Piechol Plays Games! they're there just dig deeper and shy away from those big AAA titles.
Hotline Miami man. We'll always have Hotline Miami.
And Dark Souls.
Piechol Plays Games! Corporations happened, money money money...
Oh.....it got worse..... Way worse....
It's actually scary how true this video is. Halo 5 (a game that's part of a franchise that used to be unique, original and amazing) is going to have cosmetic aim-down-sights. It's actually very sad to see how the quality of games is getting objectively worse as time goes on.
***** Becasue they can do more than simply use it as a stress test. Why do you ask?
srty srtyy m$ bought an 80pc game to push the original xbox. (nothing unique, original or amazing). what ground breaking have they done exactly in the years since. nothing. zero. halo two was crippled to be vista only! halo 3 was halo 2.5! money grabbing on the way. but what have they expanded upon. zero effort.
I agree with you how scary it is. Quake was a pure gamers platform. Quake 2 should be considered as the first COD. (as in playing to the 'kids' (at least you had to aim back then) )
QuakeLive was a gamers platform, but not now what steam has on offer.
***** cause of xbox one. halo anniversary editions, etc... What are they doing exactly to make this experience out-of-this-world?
Well the ADS in Halo 5 is purely optional since you can still play the way you always did. But i get your point.
RevanBladeZ
The ADS in Halo 5 isn't optional. There's no toggle for the classic zoom, and they've changed the way it functions by adding significantly tighter spread when aiming down the sights.
Brutal Difficulty and Breakneck speed. The way FPS was meant to be played.
I don't know, sometimes I like to speed through FPS games, and sometimes I like the methodical approach of hiding behind cover and picking off enemies one by one. Variety helps.
Colt Mason yup, Half life games did the story right
Even Half Life 2 still managed to do the classic formula pretty well.
So did Bioshock
Not really. Bioshock had a slower pace. In games like Half-Life and Quake, you ran everywhere, basically. Bioshock, took influence from early sci-fi survival horror game Systemshock, which had a lot slower pace and utilized the more RPG elements that were reflected in Bioshock's gameplay. Because of its roots in early survival horror, Bioshock's pace is a lot slower.
why cant gamers fund their own fps games like q1 and ut99
i still play ut99 just too bad its empty >.>
Hey, you should update this to 2013/14 where games have sidekick characters telling you how to solve every single part of every puzzle 50 times per minute and the camera flies away in every room to show you all the points of interest (or not), and where you only have 3 options in the menu on the screen at the same time, and where the screen effects are more abundant than the bullets fired, and everytime you can perform an action a message appears on the screen reminding you of the key for it, every time you kill something a message pops up with how many point you gained from it, and the HUD elements (messages and points included) take 80% of the screen. :)
I would do it, but it would take a while until I learned to mod quake in the first place. Best I could do would be a HL2 version of it, which I knew how to mod once...
skaruts.
All i have to say for you, is DO IT. Please do it and you will be one of the people helping in games getting better.
If you do it, your video will get my "Like" to it. Please feel free to also check out my videos, since i have some very relevant videos also.
So... what do you guys think of the Doom 2016 Multiplayer Beta (Also the final game of course)
+Kai Moosmann (ScepticalSkull) Its good but the comunity is pure shit, look for c&c 4, the game is fucking awesome but the comunity killed it
+Kai Moosmann (ScepticalSkull) garbage
+Kai Moosmann (ScepticalSkull) It is not doom, its garbage.
+Kai Moosmann (ScepticalSkull) Awfull
Complete shit.
I bought the remaster and immediately thought of this video
You forgot another key element... the Quake soundtrack was by Trent fucking Reznor.
another thing.. i'd love to see Id Software make a sequel to Quake 3 Arena.. no cut scenes, no scripting, no voice acting.. just arenas with cool weapons and deathtraps to kill each other in ;)
Check out 'Doom 3 Alpha' Gameplay on youtube, it actually looks better then the final version!
I thought Doom 3 was okay, the graphics were amazing at the time and I think the lighting gave it a good atmosphere, but it wasn't as action packed as Doom II
I just hope Doom 4 is gonna be like Doom II, I pray to god every night they don't fuck it up!
oh I saw the alpha.. I even had a bootleg copy of it! lol it was definitely better than the final game. creepier and more atmospheric. honestly though i wonder if they didnt downgrade the graphics a bit because they knew they would eventually port it over to xbox. that's probably the main reason PC gamers hate consoles. Because we all saw a decline in the quality of PC games once the devs started aiming for the lowest common denominator
You should check out Xonotic. It's a nice game in the same genre.
Have you heard of Quake Live? It's much like Quake 3 Arena and it's browser based. It's also free as far as I know.
brando92711 Congratulations, Quake Champions looks great
I used to be a game developer that did not do DLC in their games, just like you...
Until I took a EA aquirement to the knee.
ALDI SÜD made my day xD
***** xD
+Therapyx Ha. There was another Doom + CoD parody video. One of the achievements? Looking at an in-game KFC & Taco Bell ad for a few seconds.
The people who made dark souls should make an fps game. Now that is a game I would buy.
That would be nice that someone would step up to the task, of delivering a DOOM style mazelike fastpaced truly fun FPS. No-one has really even tried. I'm talking DOOM1-like game (fast movement, no ads, no regen, no sprint, no weaponlimit, no friendly npc's, no linearity, need to use keycards, need to solve puzzles, truly different weapons..). That would sell, i'm telling you. It would sell because no-one has even tried making a true FPS. All that has been released and while some have been good, none of them have truly tried to re-create 90's real FPS with todays amazing technolgy.
FromSoft did sorta made a shooter. It's a Mecha shooter though. Look up Armored Core.
They did....
ssbj144 It's not about fast-paced
Alex Eny
Hell yes it is. I hate all these new slowpaced consoleshooters where you have to sprint and then stop like an idiot so that you can ADS and hit something. I rather it be about pure skill and run&gun since it takes more skill to shoot while moving. No noob friendly "you gotta stop and aimdownsights to hit shit".
Console users happened.
i got arthritis just by watching the last part of the video
9 years later and this still is true...
Technically, it got even worse; Microtransactions, unskippable cutscenes, and a pinch of woke.
"What the hell happened?" FPS on consoles.
I wish they made more games like this nowadays... Unreal Tournament attempted to keep going, and did pretty well for quite some time. I just wish they would stop to poor state the FPSs are in now and continue Quake. It was one of the best games ever made in my opinion.
They opened stated 5 years ago that they MIGHT pick up on Quake 5, that they had the idea it just never got put into development yet
They better start developing it soon, cause I'm getting tired of all this CoD, Halo, and Battlefield shiz... Just the same old stuff over, and over, and over.... Just better graphics...
We could just go and steal the paperwork for the game and make it ourselves?
Well, I am in Drafting and Design, so I'd have a basic understanding of how to do things.
Jessy Wallace
That will help you make game levels. Now just find a coder and an animator and make a game :)
You act like everyone sped through Quake while bunny hopping, I was never that good as a kid lol
+Jacob S Noob! (Joking ofc)
+Jacob S
I did...
ClaymorePT But you're special
+Jacob S :( you did'nt do the bunny hopping thing wtf that was at least half the fun!,i did it,Wait Your got to be kidding your messing with us right ?
***** Fair enough, I understand but hardcore gamers are a minority.
Made me laugh (something i rarely do), then strangely nostalgic by the thought of the correct fov (93? 102?), bunnyjumping, rocketjumping, teleporting and thunderbolting 3-dimensional from the air.
But, old and wise: "The grass is always greener..." Someone would seriously kill you to obtain a todays low-cost computer, at that time.
Barack Obama You the one judging someone over a TH-cam comment, lol.
Barack Obama And you must be a terrible person to give somebody shit over that.
1,264 CoD players can't handle this level of awesomeness
this would have been a lot better if you didn't include the guy in the background getting mad at the game. it is basically the equivalent of a big bang theory laugh track, except it's "THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE MAD AT GUYS"
Quake 1 maps design were master piece, lots of hidden ways to complete them. now you have one way to complete games.
rocket jump generation i salute you !
Sad but true. Games these days are nothing but overhyped and over-budgeted crap.
Eh, better than the buggy and broken crap 3rd party developers would release to get a quick buck off of franchises.
+iam16bits I hope Valve doesn't get affected by it.
+Qweekskowped they don't release games for like 5 years and they said that "online-only and multiplayer is the future" ...,i think valve already get affected(this was said by gaben)
Now we just need “if quake was done today today”
Today today today, luckily we got a faithful remaster.
No need to fix what ain't broken :P
@@AlphaEnt2 yeah ik, i've been playing through Dimension of the Machine
Lol.. just the other day, i was telling some raging squeeker about the days when i had to take my computer over to a friends house for a LAN party, to play quake against a few other friends at the same house. And, it took me eight hours to download the full game over a 56k modem. I had to do it over night to ensure that nobody would try to make a phone call and cause the download to cancel.
This is literally how i feel about the FPS genre today. I don't like to brag about my age on the internet, but i'm only 15 and I think games like Quake and UT are INFINITELY better to play than Call of Duty or Halo or whatever generic trash my gaming generation plays (I'll exempt Battlefield 4 from this shitty category due to its insane amount of content and admittedly cool weapons and vehicles.) Long live the old-school/arena FPS. This is why i'm glad the new Doom isn't total shit: it might not be CLOSE to the originals in terms of awesomeness but at least the single player feels like a fucking doom game. Not to mention a "proper" fps.
Doom 4 is nearly perfect.
Ikr. The only thing missing in Doom 4 is rocket jumping haha
i'm a sperm still in my father's testes and i hate the new generation of shooters
Same here, I thought halo was the best for a long time until I decided to try out doom.
what aout the shitty leveling system?
Insurgency did a great job, now it's Ground Branchs turn. Please let the mainstream die and make the good games come back.
Please...
Ya most modern fps shooters suck and are slow as fuck. You want a game that plays and feels like quake, but plays like a modern shooter then go play Urban Terror. People still play that game by the thousands and guess what... its free.
Well, this aged pretty...
Well.
today, ten years ago
If Quake was done today (10 more years later), there would be monetization, goofy dances to unlock, double jump, a battle royale, and a grapling hook.
You can use a grappling hook in threewave
Holy shit! 12 years and its somehow only gotten worse.
Yup, we lost.
You think? I think we had a great renaissance of classic style FPS. Doom 2016 and Eternal, Ion Fury, Dusk, Ultrakill, Amid Evil, Cultic, Turbo Overkill...
Also the modding scene of the Doom community is more alive than ever, creating marvelous total conversions for free like Pirate Doom, Ashes 2063, new versions of Brutal Doom with a custom campaign, Aliens Eradication, Total Chaos, Myhouse.wad (not even counting the classics that we had before those)... You also have a great free campaign for Blood called Death Wish with new episodes every few years.
And you also have great indie FPS with very interesting concepts like Cruelty Squad or Mullet Mad Jack.
Oh and you also have great remasters by Nightdive studios.
So I think it's a great time for FPS fans.
You know the game is gonna be lit when Aldis helped out with the development.
Had to come back and re-watch this again, good stuff.
I love how you use speedrunning as example of proper FPS experience.
Because thats how you should play those, use exploits to skip as much fight its possible and not enjoy levels.
bethesda lolololololololololololololol
+Darth Nihilus Bethesda never changes.
+Darth Nihilus absolutely right though.
+CapMar-Vell92 Returns It does... It wasnt that much of a cashgrab during Morrowind and Oblivion
Maciek Pieniążek And it wasn't much of a lore rapist either.
You can buy a skin for your horse in Oblivion...
"Aldi Süd" hahahahahaha
it's funny to look back on this video in 2021 because of the retro shooter revival lol
You love to see it.
You forgot ultra-realistic game graphics that still lots of people complain "it's not that good", plus more time in cutscenes than in game itself, plus no vertical madness (oh, I do miss the rocket jumps shortcuts), plus HD version, plus "new game plus" (which makes the game even way more easier of the easiest easies).
+emcosta1981 It's funny how the older graphics from '90s games are simple enough that they leave a lot to your imagination, which I think is better in some ways than today's graphics that try to "push the limits." Like you say, it will never be "good enough" for the modern crowd, because it's just more and more of the same.
It's kind of like how a lot of old movies left the horror or violence to your imagination instead of showing it graphically and brutally, a style that Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight seemed to recapture extremely well. It's also like the times back when people still read books. People would usually opine that most (not all, mind you) movie adaptations of novels weren't as good as the book. "The book is better than the movie." It was because the MIND is a much more powerful processor than any GPU, no matter how advanced it may be.
What happens when you strip away all the good looking ultra HD graphics, super detailed background environments and cutscenes from any AAA shooter game? You're pretty much left with this.
You forgot the 10 hours of cutscenes and the random game crashing bug.
I come back to this video every now and then to have a good laugh.
That was fantastic. Great sense of humor. Love the jokes about the menu.
Just so you know bunny hopping was not intended. But rocket jumping was (as can be evidenced by a secret intended to be reached by it on one of the episode 4 maps of Quake 1's single player). If you look at some of the earliest LAN tournaments of competitive gaming history (such as Red Annihilation) most of the pro players (including Thresh) didn't even make use of bunnyhopping as it hadn't really been realized to its full potential that early into the genre. Rocket jumping however had been (as you will see multiple players rocket jump to the YA on maps like E1M2) but you won't once see them bunnyhopping. So before any of you bash Quake 1, it's flaws only added to the game. All of the new COD games (and most modern FPS games) have flaws that only hurt the game, not help. Tired of seeing people act like they know what they are talking about and either bash the 90's/early 2000's titles and/or this video without proper merit. Peace...
Quake war aus passion und Wille zur Innovation gemacht. "Call for Money: Recycled Warfare" ist halt nur dafür da, dass sich die Bosse der Firmen, die die Spiele herstellen , sich jedes Jahr nen neuen Benz for die Hütte stellen können, als zweckloser Versuch ihren Winzpimmel zu kompenieren.
>nuff said.
If you are UNDER brony...Is it possible to encounter UPPER brony?
Just a name, I used to be short as a kid, so people called me "underdog". Now I'm about average but the name kinda stuck, so I named my YT channel Underbrony.
The UnderBrony Naaah, this is some brony trickery! I know you ch33ky creatures! TELL ME YOUR SECRETS!
Nope, I used to name myself Blank Flank on TH-cam (MLP's name for ponies who haven't found their purpose in life / special talent yet). But now that this doen't apply anymore, I changed it to this. There's no trickery or anything. Thats just a personal anecdote
You are taking this too serious
I miss the olden days in the 90's.. Just getting Doom to work on a 486 DX266 with 4mb ram requiring QEMM to configure config.sys and autoexec.bat to release the base memory..
You kids have got it SO easy!
Had I known QEMM back then I'd surely used it. I used to configure autoexec.bat and config.sys by hand, sometimes with lots of try and error...!
Thinking about that time, I really miss this rewarding feeling when you finally succeeded in running you favourite game with all your gaming-hardware + soundcard correctly configured !
Hilarious how now, Quake does have 5-6 intro since the remaster/update.
What, why does the action start instantly? You must past through at least 20 cutscenes, 10 vignettes and 1/2 tutorial sequences before even seeing an enemy, let alone shoot it.
Awesome though.
That's why games have difficulty level. 99% times it's slightly twitching health of monsters when it should actually be Easy for kids and beginners, Normal to be interesting and balanced and Hard to provide challenge impossible to casual players. And what I hate the most about new games is restrictions. As if allowing people to have fun and control the character freely is a new type of crime. Every dialogue takes control away, there are closed areas, not blocked by a natural obstacle but simply shielded with a holo-wall.
One could say as long as companies make money off their games they should try and make it FOR gamers and what I see is any mod makes the game better and people buying DVDs are punished with tons and tons of security checks and ads. So to say, they do everything to kill own industry. Or... rather have done. It's just sad.
Nice video, made me laugh. As an old school guy I can say they don't make 'em like they used to.
Literally Doom: Eternal introduction
we got a larger audience that's what happened, it just so happened that a majority of that audience are idiots.
I'm 15 and when I go to school everyone is always bragging about how they have COD AW and making fun of those who don't have the most popular games and shy away from any game that isn't an indie horror game.
This is where we are right now, and that's pathetic.
Joseph Charles You just gotta stand up to them and if there is anyway you can get them to try play Quake 3 Arena forexample online and you can have good time watch you friends get totally rekt :) Seriously though, quake is basically the most skillbased fps game in the world and if your friends got all their skills from cod, they cant do shit in quake.. But the opposite is possible though. Anyone who comes from quake to cod, isn't doing terrible.
Joseph Charles yep. skins and shit make ppl think they are special.
Joseph Charles All the while they are missing out on fantastic things such as Freelancer, The good warhammer 40,000 titles, freelancer, the mechwarrior franchise, mass effect, and all kinds of shit. It makes me sad
xaneks578 i find Mass Effect boring :/ its barely RPG -.-
GravityZero for me its not even that that gets me with mass erect. Its the sheer amount of laziness that is clearly seen throughout the trilogy if you pay attention. So many inconsistencies in the writing alone not to mention alot of non cohesive shit going on with the NPC's and characters and enemies
Oh man I forgot how motion sick this game made me...
*Hrrghghghhhlll!!!*
So true..my neighbor once came over to play.. He wasn't used to playing with keyboard and mouse and he kept running in walls, bumping into corners...over and over, to same... Bruuuurp....excuse me, I gotta go barf..
Before rail jumping.
It was rocket jumping :D. Ah the good ol' days.
I was only a toddler during quake's hey day, and I totally agree with this vid.