The Confusing Case of Lonzo Ball - Doctor Explains

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  • Lonzo Ball has been shut down for the remainder of the season, and apparently doctors still don't really know what's wrong with the Bull's star.
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  • MrBreezy4421
    MrBreezy4421 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +866

    Hey doc with all this information on Lonzo and his knee, I was wondering if you could do a video on Dejuan Blair explaining how he was able to play in the NBA without having any ACL's in both knees

    • vm
      vm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      yes, VERY curious about his case too

    • sleep💤
      sleep💤 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      This needs more likes, I’d love to hear this story from a trusted Doc’s perspective

    • TjR
      TjR 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Bumping this comment

    • Joe Knapp
      Joe Knapp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yeah that sounds fascinating tbh

    • Taydaytoday
      Taydaytoday 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      His body adapted to not having ACL’s since he was so young his body never programmed itself to operate with an ACL, he was playing on bone cartilage

  • Matthew Goodman
    Matthew Goodman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +264

    I feel so bad for lonzo. He was just hitting his prime and now he has to deal with this.

    • Marcus Rondo
      Marcus Rondo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Yup. He made every team he played for better.

    • Shalom Kadosh
      Shalom Kadosh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It’s very sad but he was never a good player to begin with

    • Matthew Goodman
      Matthew Goodman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @Shalom Kadosh tf you talking about he was having a great year before he got hurt. He'd improved so much and was one of the best perimeter defenders for a guard in the league

    • Shalom Kadosh
      Shalom Kadosh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Matthew Goodman Im not sure if you ever watched him but he’s not NBA material. All he does is bring up the ball and pass it off. In addition to that he can’t shoot for the life of him. In my eyes he was only in the league bc his dad hyped him up.

    • Matthew Goodman
      Matthew Goodman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @Shalom Kadosh before he got hurt he was averaging 13/5/5 with 2 steals and shooting 42% from 3... I don't think you've watched him lately... nice try tho

  • Nick
    Nick 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +313

    I'm not a big basketball fan, but my heart goes out to this guy. I've struggled with idiopathic pain since I was about 8 years old 20 years ago. I remember a doctor explaining it to me by saying it's idiopathic meaning the doctors are idiots and can't figure it out yet! While obviously that isn't true, it did a lot to mentally help a scared kid who was in a lot of pain. I've been told by doctors so often that they don't know why I'm hurting, it's actually reliving when they find something wrong! Because that means there is something they can do to help me!

    • N K
      N K 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      same ive been struggling for 4 years and am unable to do squats or run, and doctors tell me there is nothing wrong with my knees ... then i scare myself into thinking maybe its something psychological. But i actually feel it and no one could understand unless they were in my mind and body.

    • Nick
      Nick 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @N K if I had a dollar for ever doctor that either directly told me or implied to me that it was all in my head . . . It messes with your head to hear that over and over! By the way, my knee was visibly swollen, red, and hot to the touch. I just reminded myself that if it's all in my head I must be the most incredible actor and have insane control over my body to be able to manipulate all these bodily systems!

    • Deontai Alexander
      Deontai Alexander 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I had a Cervical disc replacement 5 years ago. Hadn't had any problems until I fell and twisted my ankle. Now I'm having shoulder pain radicular pain in to my fingers. Doctor's telling me post laminectomy syndrome but I think it's something structurally off. I have chronic pain and Im telling them it's my shoulder but they said everything in my spine is OK. I'm like my shoulder feels like it's slicing my back in the nerves in it SMH. It's frustrating as hell

    • CruzyLife
      CruzyLife 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What did u have

  • Ty
    Ty 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +268

    I’ve had Erbs palsy since birth and chronic pain since I was five from it, doctors didn’t know what caused my pain for 20 years. It ended up being from a surgery at age 4 they cut too much of my peck muscle off leaving my arm in an unnatural position and the amount of scar tissue around the nerves. Doctors know alot but not everything has an easy answer.

    • Deontai Alexander
      Deontai Alexander 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wow is there anything can do?

    • ayoooo
      ayoooo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I hope you finally have some ease Tyler

    • Ty
      Ty 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @ayoooo Thanks I’m going for surgery in New York soon.

    • A Slave to Freedom
      A Slave to Freedom 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      U can sue them for that a lady had a sea section and one of the doctors left a drying pad inside of her stomach she had stomach pains for months before they found out if they mess u up u can sue them

    • Alan
      Alan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @A Slave to Freedom it’s c-section brah lol

  • H. Sowande Gray
    H. Sowande Gray 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

    For my own knee issue I found out that it never really started in the knee. The entire leg works in concert all the way up to the hips. I found my gluten imbalance and my lack of strength in my glute minimus was my issue. Causing other muscles to overwork and to pull on my knee. So glad there are people online to get different opinions out.

    • Allison Brady
      Allison Brady 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      gluten imbalance?

    • H. Sowande Gray
      H. Sowande Gray 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @Allison Brady lol glute. My muscles.

    • Jeff
      Jeff 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glutes being weak is a very common problem and I bet it's my issue as well.
      Who diagnosed and figured this out for you I'm interested.

    • Jeff
      Jeff 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @H. Sowande Gray ty for the recommendation I will check it out!
      I want to resume my dream of dunking at age 40! These knees will be bullet proof in time, gl with your fitness journey!

  • Taylor Swanson
    Taylor Swanson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +88

    I had meniscus (menisectomy) surgery and trying to get back turned to pre-injury level turned out to be difficult. I had several nerve issues, many nerves(5) were damaged because of surgery. What made it harder was that no one could figure what was wrong saw about 30 doctor’s to finally get the right treatment and surgery. I ended up seeing a specialist in peripheral nerve surgery (this type of surgeon doesn’t take insurance and only a few in the country). But was diagnosed with nerve damage from arthroscopic knee surgery so I ended having a few nerve surgeries to try and repair the damage, which worked. Now I’m back to my sport and made nationals.

    • thetourettes guy
      thetourettes guy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Glad everything went well!!! How long was the time table you were out ?

    • Phomo
      Phomo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great to hear you finally recovered! Congratulations on fighting through 👏🏾

    • Taylor Swanson
      Taylor Swanson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @thetourettes guy I was out 8 years, 3 years where no doctor could figure it out. Ended up with some permanent damage that is irreversible and now on para (physical disability category in track). I wear AFO brace all the time. But with my brace on I can do everything run, jump, etc.

    • j_bar
      j_bar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@Taylor Swanson Daaaamn 8 yrs out for an athlete is like an eternity. Glad that your knee is ok now.

    • Morgan Schiller
      Morgan Schiller หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is why I really want orthos to start using IOM for hip, knee and shoulder surgeries. Its really easy to take a nerve out and have no idea ya did it. Spine is fun and all but I’d MUCH rather be doing ortho cases. Knees and hips are my jam

  • Nathan Washington
    Nathan Washington 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    My biggest issue with this whole injury recovery process has been the Bull’s coach Billy Donovan’s updates. They’ve been so consistently negative and scathing towards Ball’s recovery timeline and seem to place a lot of the blame back onto the player for injury issues the team had a responsibility to resolve. I understand the frustration of one of your stat players not being able to play but it really doesn’t seem like Donovan is in Ball’s corner whatsoever with the comments made so far and I can only imagine how much more difficult recovering would be with that lack of support.

    • alb
      alb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what is an example of his negativity towards ball?

    • Truthbringer -
      Truthbringer - 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​​@alb he can't give you an example because Billy hasn't been negative. He's honestly the only one that's been transparent. When someone ask about Zo, he usually just gives a straight answer. This guy's thinks Billy is being negative because the front office has been giving people false hope.

  • Lipstick Zombie
    Lipstick Zombie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +143

    Am I the only one noticing a pattern on Bulls admins mismanaging their players' health. Luol Deng's misdiagnosis and Derick Rose's constant reinjury comes to mind.

    • Kobe Fanforever
      Kobe Fanforever 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      I am a professional athlete. When I talked with Otto porter he told me the bulls fkd up his diagnosis with his foot and made him play on it.

    • Erik Kush
      Erik Kush 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      lol there’s a completely different medical staff since those injuries.

    • Caleb M
      Caleb M 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What the Bulls did to Luol Deng is blasphemous

    • Dieu
      Dieu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lonzo ball has had injury issues his entire professional career

  • Marianne H
    Marianne H 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Thank you for sharing your expertise with us. You’re easy to understand and keep it short enough that I don’t lose interest in what you’re explaining. Thank you again.

  • Samuel Katz
    Samuel Katz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Lonzo is also pretty clearly hypermobile, and as someone who plays basketball with hyper mobility, there's a lot of weird tendon pain issues you can have if your muscles aren't sufficiently stabilizing. Zo has some really unique movement patterns, and I wouldn't be surprised if this was related to some kind of musculoskeletal instability. I had a mystery foot injury that put me out of commission for almost 2 years but barely even showed as more than inflammation on an mri. It's only now that I've switched shoes and rehabed the strength in my feet that I can play pain free. On the timeline of a pro athlete though that could be unthinkable.

  • Zak Berliner
    Zak Berliner 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I absolutely LOVED this video! It was incredible getting to hear what your steps and thought process would be in a medical confusion like this one. It was suuuuper informative and one of my favorite videos you’ve done!

  • Cody Petrie
    Cody Petrie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I was waiting for this video! Thanks, Brian!
    I'm a big fan of his game, and hope he returns to the court soon.

  • rizdizmcniz
    rizdizmcniz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    PT here. I’ve been watching him since day one. It’s his ankle/foot creating the hip weakness that trickles into bad knee mechanics. I’ve said he wouldn’t last even before the injuries started. Wonky mechanics aren’t always a guarantee of pain/dysfunction but he’s been suspect from day one. Hopefully someone in the room will check the ankle. Trouble is many physicians are only focused on the individual parts and don’t have sufficient understanding of complex interregional dependencies.

  • Gla3dr11
    Gla3dr11 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had chronic knee pain through high school, I remember hearing the term patella femoral, but the doctor just basically told me to strengthen my legs. I had to take anti inflammatories constantly to play sports. Stairs and sitting still my with my knees bent were hard.
    Eventually went to a chiropractor, who told me my hips were drastically shifted. Took 2 years of regular hip adjustments but my pain slowly but surely went away, got to about 95% relief. Standing upright my feet used to make a 90 degree angle with each other, and now maybe like 15 or 20. In college I started lifting instead of just being active and being in sports and remaining pain went away.

  • Ray Romo
    Ray Romo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Man I remember the bulls were looking dangerous with lonzos passing and defense. Hope he comes back full forces and finishes what he started.

  • N K
    N K 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    In many cases where an xray or mri doesnt show anything that could cause pain, it ends up being an issue with nerves. So there may not even be anything physically wrong, however his nerve may be damaged and continues to emit the feeling of pain.

  • TETRARCH Unstable Freak
    TETRARCH Unstable Freak 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This really heartbreaking as a Bulls fan I send my prayers and best wishes to Lonzo I don't think he'll ever be able to play basketball in the NBA again after This.

  • marcrina daniel
    marcrina daniel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dr Sutterton this was so enlightening. Hope things work out for him. As u said we never know what people did when they were younger! Take care Doc until next one

  • L.N. Hitsman
    L.N. Hitsman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Brandon Roy is another player who had muscle imbalances that were putting extra load on his knees. There are videos of him doing some banded walks and you could see his knee caving inward as he stepped. This is a sign of muscle imbalances and weak muscles around the hip.

    • Chir Orange
      Chir Orange 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Zion Williamson is going this route too, unfortunately .

  • Rome The Champion
    Rome The Champion 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Get this guy a job working with/for a NBA team… Great explanation and insight

  • El Cee
    El Cee 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel the pressure to get surgery to get back on the field is a driver in shortening careers. Yes PT may take a while, but ultimately may actually lengthen a career rather than stressing knee structures via surgery over time

  • Donald Priola
    Donald Priola 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's a tough break. He had worked hard to improve his game, and was getting the credit he deserved. I wonder if some of this might be psychological?

  • J J
    J J 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had terrible knee pain from dunking too much on 10ft rims when I was only about 5’5 . Knee pain was so bad I could barley walk and I had a little bump in my knee . Ended up jogging for 4 years and not touching a basketball and now I can play basketball again

  • Antonio_11
    Antonio_11 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    Lonzo should probably travel to your office Doctor.
    I feel for Lonzo. A former 5 Star athlete. A top pick. Highly scrutinized.
    But he was turning the corner before his injury, just finding and establishing his role. He got a big contract.
    I fear he’ll never recoup the burst and quickness he had as a teenager. If a Knee is lingering this long, is it possible this injury could be career ending? His path is altered now and Im afraid he’s going down a path a kin to Derrick Rose and Brandon Roy.
    What you said, about checking his other joints, is genius out the box thinking why we love you Doc. Keep it up.

    • Joe Knapp
      Joe Knapp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Zo’s such a cerebral player that he’ll have value for a team even with diminished athleticism, should that be the case. Definitely praying for him though, love his game, seems like a good dude too 💯🙏🏻

  • Dee _
    Dee _ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man I feel bad for Lonzo 😢. He’ll never be the same

  • Kurtis3430
    Kurtis3430 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Doc, I love the explanation. But every time I watch your videos I feel pain in whatever part of the body you talk about!

    • Ballislife99
      Ballislife99 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I always get anxiety when he talks about Knees because I already had an ACL tear and three meniscus tears

  • Plant_12
    Plant_12 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I've seen people saying that Lonzo is faking this pain so that he can just ride the bench and collect his money. This really annoys me because I spent most of my Highschool soccer days with odd injuries and pain that my teammates and coahces thought I was faking. Can't handle ridiculous people like that

    • I am Groot!
      I am Groot! 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah I think it is silly to say he is 'faking' but with the Ben Simmons pulling his nonsense folks are going to side eye anyone being out for injury when it seems they should not be. At this point they have obviously tried a number of things that are not working and that will continue to raise questions. I hope to see him back next season but at this point it doesn't seem likely

    • J-Strokes
      J-Strokes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why would you listen to people that aren't him about what he is doing? He literally posted videos of him running and jumping a month ago and you taking what randoms say online about his intent? Lmao

  • Jonathan Lau
    Jonathan Lau 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Agree about the approach with a diagnostic injection. Thing is I assume that these docs have tried that. I assume they do know that it is coming from the joint because of that (and not the hip or ankle or extra-articular as you alluded to). I also assume that in general the trainers and docs would doing all kinds of training to treat for PFS even if that isn't high on their working diagnosis or differential. I might be making assumptions about his medical team, but I have to assume that over 365 days they have looked at most things. The one thing that would worry me most would potentially be a diagnosis of CRPS (complex regional pain syndrome). I would imagine if the Bulls did know that he had CRPS after multiple surgeries, they would not announce that as it would likely completely ruin his future trade value as it is notoriously difficult to treat and unpredictable at best in terms of outcome. Brandon Roy is a completely other story. I do not know the whole story, but it sounds like he had OA early. Whether it was because of his ACLs or chronic recurrent injuries and inappropriate return to sport and playing while unstable and injured, nobody will ever know. But nobody should be doing "microfracture" surgery in their late 20s in their knees in hopes that it allows them to return to one of the most athletic of sports. Microfracture is a stopgap at best for old people... not for young people. I loved Brandon Roy, but short of him having some horrible inflammatory arthropathy which would just be unlucky... someone mismanaged his career. Keep up the great work. Hope they figure out Lonzo, but I have a very very bad feeling about this.

  • SilentSamurai8
    SilentSamurai8 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man…I’ve got a similar situation going on right now and the specialist I was sent to by our primary is (neither are really) no where near as articulate as Dr Sutterer.
    To be honest, it doesn’t seem like they care or try much either. It can be so frustrating. I just got another MRI for a recent incident and am trying to make an appointment (on Monday) with one of the best in the area I live in. If he can even explore my problem and explain things in this way, I’d be happy. That way there is a direction to go in.
    I can only imagine being in Lonzos situation…even money doesn’t help sometimes.

  • Matt Millslagle
    Matt Millslagle 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What’s up Doc I had an almost exactly similar injury and would love to email and explain to you what surgery fixed my knee!

  • NotoriousOsc16
    NotoriousOsc16 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    It’s crazy D wade played his whole career with no meniscus on his knee, hope Zo can get back.

  • Counterpoise AG
    Counterpoise AG 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My guess is Ball had one or more of the dreaded cartilage repair jobs and it didn’t take (micro fracture, OATS, cartilage transfer, cell resurfacing, etc.). Likely career-ending, but can ultimately fix with a knee replacement down the road. Such a shame 😖

  • Andy Semanson
    Andy Semanson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Had a doctor tell me once, when you cut looking for pain, you’ll usually find it. Chronic pain is no joke.

  • Elizabeth George
    Elizabeth George 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Lonzo, we got good and bad news. The bad news is we have no idea what's going on. The good news is that e get to name it after you."
    But for real, I hope he's able to recover. He may never get back to his old form, but hopefully he can at least play again.

  • Nick Brush
    Nick Brush 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro you're so talented this is amazing to watch your breakdowns.

  • Caldwell22
    Caldwell22 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man you sharp at what you do @Brian Sutterer M.D. great analogies, especially talking about the microscopic clean up, B. Roy reference & everything else detailed. I immediately thought of D Wade as you were going in.
    Ty for the knowledge

  • Robojim
    Robojim 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dr Brian I think the discussion about his ankle is important. When he used to where those awful BBB shoes I wouldn't be surprised if that made things worse.

  • ronmeza6400
    ronmeza6400 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What are your thoughts on the genicular nerves? They are purely sensory and branch off the main nerves you mentioned. Can these get impinged?

    • Morgan Schiller
      Morgan Schiller หลายเดือนก่อน

      They can get impinged by inflammation and scar tissue. You can get them ablated.

  • Deepak Nambisan
    Deepak Nambisan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely top-notch video, as usual. Thank you 🙏🏾

  • Hector Moraga
    Hector Moraga 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good insights as always Doc. A question for you I hope if can help to understand late collapses in Running and how to avoid it..... See Australia XC championship how the best female runner in nowdays totally collapsed meters before finishing the race. Greetings from 🇨🇱 Chile 🤞😇

  • Aaron
    Aaron 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He can get a second opinion from literally any surgeon or doctor on the planet. Dirk always went home if he had to have any work done because he trusted his doctor. Kobe went overseas for surgeries. It's time for a second and third opinion. It was time for this about 8 weeks after the second surgery. Somebody knows what's wrong. Be persistent & find them

  • DarknessJamaal
    DarknessJamaal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Been a huge fan of yours for a long time. But what is funny about this video it was both very helpful and very not helpful at the same time! I've always been a person that needs answers and while you've given me answers its not the ones I was hoping to receive. I figured you'd be the person to miraculously solve Lonzo's issues haha

    • Roger Nguy
      Roger Nguy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Explain

  • Rachaád Gunter
    Rachaád Gunter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pathology is so important to not ignore… and I think that problem with Ball … also I have runner knee ( Patellofemoral Pain syndrome )and Chondromalacia, and it’s extremely painful when I do sharp turns and loaded when I go up the steps . If he has that he needs go through Pain management therapy.. I wish him well get a solution

  • B_Lo95
    B_Lo95 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had bad tendonosis in my quadriceps tendon. It was horrible, felt great one day. The next day would hurt like hell. Made no sense.

  • Steven
    Steven 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    From Lonzo dunk compilation videos, I see similarities with D Rose...
    EXACTLY like D rose, Lonzo ONLY jumps (jumped) with his left leg OR a left-right plant. NEVER a single-leg jump with his right, or a double-leg jump with a right-left plant.
    And funny story: this is EXACTLY how I fucked up my knees too! Not so funnny actually.
    Jump imbalance is a real risk factor - we don't need academic evidence to see that. We overload one side, and ignore the other. It's a matter of time till you have a bad landing on your weak side. And it's a matter of time till your strong side can't handle the volume and intensity anymore and your body starts to develop imbalances below and above the knee. Thats when things REALLY start going downhill (speaking from experience).
    Coaches need to see this and force their players to take a step back to balance out both sides. The only reason this wouldn't be done, is IMPATIENCE and COMFORT. We feel comfortable using our strong side and fixing our weak side takes time and effort...
    ...but eventually, you're gonna have to pay the price.

    • Okeythegoat 23
      Okeythegoat 23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Facts dawg

    • bonkers donkers
      bonkers donkers 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My younger brother only dunks off his left leg. This is a cause for concern actually. Thanks for sharing your experience. What’s the solution then? Weight lifting to get the other leg strong too?

    • NewApollo Gaming
      NewApollo Gaming 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @bonkers donkersyeh probably and trying to get him used to using both legs

    • Steven
      Steven 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@bonkers donkers You're right. Strengthening both sides independently, as well as working on mechanics / motor control of both sides independently. In practical terms: practice jumping and landing of either leg, and weightlifting exercises using either side independently. But don't forget there's a lot that goes in-between weightlifting and jumping: mechanics, motor control, coordination... That's what will tie strength from the gym and movement on the court together.

    • ScHoops
      ScHoops 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is an interesting point, but I'm not sure how much we can do. IN training we can make an athlete jump off their nondominant leg and strengthen it for sure, but if an athlete only jumps off one leg or plant in-game and has been doing it for 10 years it gets really difficult to "even them out". With the amount of volume your strong leg goes through compared to your weak, it would be impossible to match it, but I do see the importance of spending some time working on it.

  • bigbabo
    bigbabo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seems like the surgeons made him worse. They were too focused on one cause (the meniscus) and kept chipping away at it. They didn't look at other problems (the hip, and ankle). Sucks. He's career is in danger. The bulls are already talking about releasing him. You gotta be careful putting your life/body in the hands of doctors.

  • Chuck Jacobs
    Chuck Jacobs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had issues with my knee on 2018.. I got a MRI, and the doc say... Boy ya legs is weak, work out those hamstrings, glutes, quads, basically the whole lower body... Needless to say I haven't miss a leg day since. Lower body feeels good, and I'm pounding out that 🐈 too. Thanks doc!!

    • NeoAndersonReloaded
      NeoAndersonReloaded 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same here. Nothing like a stable base

    • Chuck Jacobs
      Chuck Jacobs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @NeoAndersonReloaded
      Yes indeed

  • Johnpaul. Art
    Johnpaul. Art 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love your channel. would you please add Supercross/motocross athletes to your content? Those guys are specimen when it comes to pain and injury. Check out some of Cameron Macadoo crashes and KEN Roxzen path to arm recovery….right now Malcom Stewart a fan favorite is out the remainder of the series.

  • William Breeze
    William Breeze 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the breakdown doctor 👍

  • B Wash
    B Wash 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Although we would miss your videos you should work for a professional sports team. Awesome diagnosis Doc!

  • Andrew Lin
    Andrew Lin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had patellar tendinitis and doctors just treated the symptoms of the patellar. It turns out it got completely resolved fixing my quad muscles that were pulling on the tendon too much.

    • Isaac Vaha
      Isaac Vaha 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Did you strengthen the quads? What do you mean by fixing your quads. I’m curious because I play D1 football, and have been out due to this same pain in my right knee.

    • Andrew Lin
      Andrew Lin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Isaac Vaha my quad muscle was not able to function properly and making my patellar work more than it should. Try foam rolling the quads and see if they gain better mobility and function.

  • G
    G 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    so sad man, he was the reason I started watching basketball

  • Kiwi
    Kiwi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Could be CRPS especially following trauma to the knee and the multiple surgeries that seem a bit unwarranted. What do you think?

  • R.Wildekrav
    R.Wildekrav 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Doc , have him come in to your office and YOU give him the once over .
    Maybe his MD’s have seen him so much that they are missing one minor(hopefully) flaw that you could possibly discover .

  • 5naxalotl
    5naxalotl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    desperately waiting for an update on this. sounds like they're about to attempt something super radical and i'd appreciate some technical insight

  • Kay 32
    Kay 32 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What's the possibilty that he has CRPS? I had a posterior tibial tendon tare and after the surgery when it was healed, I still had extreme pain. It took them 4 doctors and 5 years to figure it out.

  • Tyler Streber
    Tyler Streber 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is there ever a point as a doctor where you can’t find anything wrong and you just tell the player they’re gonna have to play through pain or do you always search until you find something?

  • TheTEN24
    TheTEN24 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This sucks for Lonzo man, enjoy watching the dude play and hope the best for him and can come back next year

  • messigoat2021
    messigoat2021 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey doc, different topic but i'd like your input on USADA and UFC, specifically with IV ban and the recent change of less than 100 picograms of steroids not counting as a positive test.
    My issue is some of these USADA rules have major impacts on the legacy/career of the fighters, but I'm not sure if these rules are accurate from a medical perspective.
    Should Jon Jones' positive steroid tests be reversed because of USADAs rule, from a medical perspective? If Islam Makhachev used IV to rehydrate before his last fight, should that cause his win to be disqualified? A lot of the fans just think "rules are rules", but the basis of these rules is lacking.
    Thanks doc

  • Saad Atiq
    Saad Atiq 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The poor guy had so much potential

  • Zay-el
    Zay-el 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s funny I was looking to see if you made a video about Lonzo a few days ago and now here it is! Amazing work Dr. S as always!

  • Karan Sagar
    Karan Sagar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Could you make videos on tennis? For example, Rafa’s RF ablation or Djokovic’s hamstring tear?

  • Eddie Physics
    Eddie Physics 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are a really great problem solver.

  • Garrett Worcester
    Garrett Worcester 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "That's a really nice shirt you're wearing!"
    My knee said this while you were discussing cartilage wear, meniscus degradation, and hip pain. Although I'm not a professional athlete, you could have been talking about me in this video.

  • Arin Haghverdian
    Arin Haghverdian 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Dr! Any chance you can do Lebron's latest injury against the Mavs?

  • cupchamp5
    cupchamp5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope he does recover, sucks that he's hurt. But at this point, if he's needing a 3rd operation on his knee, I'd say his career is likely over. He should just retire and either head up the Big Baller Brand, or maybe get into broadcasting or scouting.

  • Eric Schaeffer
    Eric Schaeffer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i have a partial tear in my left knee meniscus like 5-6years ago and I can basically walk/run for alittle bit but I will have discomfort and be limping if i do it too much...I have been thinking about getting surgery done and I dont know if I should just cut it all out or what...I basically can still walk/run but definitely no fast cutting when running and the "weak/discomfort" is annoying as well..what do you recommend Brian Stutterer? I just want to be able to run/jog again without discomfort/limping after(I basically had it scanned awhile ago and am at the step where I need to get it scanned again before surgery, just curious your initial thoughts).

    • NeoAndersonReloaded
      NeoAndersonReloaded 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would strength your legs. I had same issue. It flairs up sometimes but not as much. The pain is a piece getting caught in the joint.

  • OMJUWARA
    OMJUWARA 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I thought he needed microfracture, but his injury seems more complex than that

  • Micky Hansen
    Micky Hansen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Love the troubleshooting.

  • Trey Gray
    Trey Gray 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you make a video on Bobby Orr's knee injury?

  • Erik Peralta
    Erik Peralta 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man I wonder if anyone can find a way to get this to Lonzo, Doc is very articulate and smart I think another professional opinion coming from
    Him would be great for Lonzo.

  • Rudy Rivas
    Rudy Rivas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Injuries are unpredictable but nba needs to have a relief for teams

  • Rap God Reloaded
    Rap God Reloaded 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Whatever going on with his left knee should be rectified with some sort of modern healing medicine.

  • Adi Sucipto
    Adi Sucipto 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Lonzo is a gifted basketball player, but his body betrayed him..such an unfortunate situation

  • Patrick Werner
    Patrick Werner 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Do doctors ever reach out to other clinics when they find something that they have never seen or heard of before

  • cuwop kuwop
    cuwop kuwop 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for this info doc. I could've really used this vid 10 years ago 🤣

  • Phomo
    Phomo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope that you get to see Lonzo and maybe you can see if you can’t help him doc!

  • willie siems
    willie siems 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you do a video on David goggins knee and body injuries he’s had

  • JB the Stoner
    JB the Stoner 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This isn't even a basketball issue at this point, even if you get him back into playing shape, how is he gonna feel in 10 years or so?

  • NY Sock Exchange
    NY Sock Exchange 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lonzo outta just publicly release ALL his medical records (relating to his knee) so excellent doctors like you can more accurately diagnose his condition. Even though Lonzo is rich and can afford the best healthcare, I'm concerned he's getting the wrong advice. Lonzo needs to stop seeing these quacks and bring Dr. Sutterer on board so he can get back on the court asap.

  • Morgan Schiller
    Morgan Schiller หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its awful to get the imaging done and take it doc to doc to doc and be told there is nothing there. Its madness and it drives you nuts. Lonzo needs to see my boy in Cleveland. He started his career being the ortho for the Bulls.

  • Wiz K
    Wiz K 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If he sees you and you take care of him, he'll be back.

  • Daniel Carmichael
    Daniel Carmichael 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think it was Mychael Thompson that said he had bad cartilage and was getting pop shots in his first years as a laker

  • Zevy Reich
    Zevy Reich 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about Sarno? This seems exactly like it could apply.

  • Jack TheLeper
    Jack TheLeper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If Brian thinks 365 days without playing is a long time wait till he hears bout Jonathan Isaac not playin for years

  • Dan Geiger
    Dan Geiger 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    As a Bulls fan this is frustrating

    • Shaan Grewal
      Shaan Grewal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Imagine how he feels. Poor guy

    • dadillonful
      dadillonful 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why? He’s not good at all

    • Ichiro Suzuki
      Ichiro Suzuki 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @dadillonful L take. He is a very valuable 3 and D player that can also handle the ball, lol

  • EpilepticRabbit
    EpilepticRabbit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you do an update with his new surgery etc?

  • Mikhail Boldt
    Mikhail Boldt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This is literately Kawhi Leonard 2.0. I struggle with these situations honestly. On one hand I get why people go after guys like Lonzo and Kawhi. They’re pro athletes very rich very popular getting paid millions of dollars to throw a ball into a hoop. The idea of them having problems while the rest of us are struggling so much is hard to grasp. You wanna just hey bro just go play stop being so weak you’re a pro athlete not a toddler.
    On one hand I sympathize with the player. These teams are in it for their own brand for their own bottom line. If they push a guy to come back early and he suffers a devastating injury I guarantee they’ll cut/trade him and that’s it. No one will look out for the player for the rest of his career/life. At some points the guys gotta say you know I know my body you don’t so stfu I’m not putting myself at risk

    • Aidan Williams
      Aidan Williams 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      People tried to get on Kawhi for his load management, but then when you look at his ACL tear, if his quad was stronger it would have been able to prevent it. His concerns were real.

    • Türtle
      Türtle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@Aidan Williams The weirdest thing is that people STILL get on Kawhi about him sitting so much as if we didn't learn about his injury like damn near four years ago now.

    • Aidan Williams
      Aidan Williams 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Türtle he stopped load management that season too. And it happened in the postseason. I don't think that's a coincidence

    • Lipstick Zombie
      Lipstick Zombie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Outsiders rag on a player when that player shows any sort of concern with their health. Don't get me started on fans going after a player when they say they're suffering from mental health problems because ',bro you have money'

    • Mikhail Boldt
      Mikhail Boldt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Lipstick Zombie to me it’s a case by case basis with the mental health issues. There’s certain positions in life and sports I don’t want someone with mental health issues. If you’re POTUS you can’t have Alzheimer’s or Dementia that’s horrifyingly dangerous. I don’t want my bank manager to be a chronic gambler or have issues with money. If you’re a teacher of children or daycare operator you can’t have fits of rage or anger. A similar thing goes for athletes. If you’re the Quarterback of a major franchise or a huge star in another sport I’m sorry but it doesn’t good look to see that you’re struggling with depression or some other mental disorder. The pressure of that kind of spot is hard and bad enough. There’s already enough external and inter problems to navigate without having issues with mental health. If you’re leading a world class major market team have the hopes of millions of fans on your shoulders reading that player is debilitated by some condition isn’t exactly reassuring in his ability to do their job. If they wanna step away and get help God Bless them they deserve to get treatment but while they’re in charge it’s not a great look seeing them weakened by something

  • Griffin Hays
    Griffin Hays 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    4:36 I'm sure this is just a case of Lavar having no clue what he's talking about

  • TheTruth1126
    TheTruth1126 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lonzo was finally putting it all together and this happens

  • justin parkhouse
    justin parkhouse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What would be your thoughts on it being crps?

  • Scott Eby
    Scott Eby 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He may have been talking about genicular nerves; If there's nothing else organic, he may be on the road to ablation.

  • David
    David 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Zion and Lonzo are both out of commission, it was nice watching that duo while it lasted

  • Kuros234
    Kuros234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Reminds me of the Brandon Roy situation

  • Metalpractor
    Metalpractor 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No doubt you examine the joints above and below. The patella grind test and Clark’s are excellent in deciphering out PFPS - no need to inject. Wish they made privy to exam findings (and not auto populated exam findings either) .

  • L.N. Hitsman
    L.N. Hitsman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He needs a good physical therapist to work on muscle imbalances. He probably has weak glute medius and other hip muscles that causing the pain.

  • Chris Mackenzie
    Chris Mackenzie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you have opinions re: plica syndrome as a possible cause of anterior knee pain?

  • Chir Orange
    Chir Orange 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lonzo needs a meeting with Lebron’s doctors. Yeah, those ones that prescribed him those recovery meds he had down in Miami.

  • Btnbatv
    Btnbatv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think I have this I have just recently got a x ray on my knees and both knees came out as good but my knees always hurt when I jump play basketball and I can’t even really dunk anymore because of it tryna do knee stretching and hip to help the pain because even up to r steps I can feel pain

  • Roberto Robato
    Roberto Robato 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing video as usual!