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The Confusing Case of Lonzo Ball - Doctor Explains

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  • Lonzo Ball has been shut down for the remainder of the season, and apparently doctors still don't really know what's wrong with the Bull's star.
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  • @MrBreezy4421
    @MrBreezy4421 ปีที่แล้ว +926

    Hey doc with all this information on Lonzo and his knee, I was wondering if you could do a video on Dejuan Blair explaining how he was able to play in the NBA without having any ACL's in both knees

    • @vintagemonte
      @vintagemonte ปีที่แล้ว +44

      yes, VERY curious about his case too

    • @Sle3p520
      @Sle3p520 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      This needs more likes, I’d love to hear this story from a trusted Doc’s perspective

    • @tjr2312
      @tjr2312 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bumping this comment

    • @joeknapp9162
      @joeknapp9162 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah that sounds fascinating tbh

    • @Taydaytoday
      @Taydaytoday ปีที่แล้ว +41

      His body adapted to not having ACL’s since he was so young his body never programmed itself to operate with an ACL, he was playing on bone cartilage

  • @lipstickzombie4981
    @lipstickzombie4981 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    Am I the only one noticing a pattern on Bulls admins mismanaging their players' health. Luol Deng's misdiagnosis and Derick Rose's constant reinjury comes to mind.

    • @LordoftheTHOTs
      @LordoftheTHOTs ปีที่แล้ว +63

      I am a professional athlete. When I talked with Otto porter he told me the bulls fkd up his diagnosis with his foot and made him play on it.

    • @the51
      @the51 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      lol there’s a completely different medical staff since those injuries.

    • @calebm3465
      @calebm3465 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What the Bulls did to Luol Deng is blasphemous

    • @LordoftheTHOTs
      @LordoftheTHOTs ปีที่แล้ว

      @@the51 exactly , so that should tell you that the bulls don’t invest into the medical staff.

    • @dieu5041
      @dieu5041 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lonzo ball has had injury issues his entire professional career

  • @Dawg476
    @Dawg476 ปีที่แล้ว +272

    I’ve had Erbs palsy since birth and chronic pain since I was five from it, doctors didn’t know what caused my pain for 20 years. It ended up being from a surgery at age 4 they cut too much of my peck muscle off leaving my arm in an unnatural position and the amount of scar tissue around the nerves. Doctors know alot but not everything has an easy answer.

    • @deontaialexander8883
      @deontaialexander8883 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow is there anything can do?

    • @ayoooo704
      @ayoooo704 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I hope you finally have some ease Tyler

    • @Dawg476
      @Dawg476 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ayoooo704 Thanks I’m going for surgery in New York soon.

    • @Aslavetofreedom
      @Aslavetofreedom ปีที่แล้ว +2

      U can sue them for that a lady had a sea section and one of the doctors left a drying pad inside of her stomach she had stomach pains for months before they found out if they mess u up u can sue them

    • @AlanMane
      @AlanMane ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Aslavetofreedom it’s c-section brah lol

  • @MattyG13
    @MattyG13 ปีที่แล้ว +283

    I feel so bad for lonzo. He was just hitting his prime and now he has to deal with this.

    • @fupalover
      @fupalover ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yup. He made every team he played for better.

    • @shalomkadosh4691
      @shalomkadosh4691 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It’s very sad but he was never a good player to begin with

    • @MattyG13
      @MattyG13 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @Shalom Kadosh tf you talking about he was having a great year before he got hurt. He'd improved so much and was one of the best perimeter defenders for a guard in the league

    • @shalomkadosh4691
      @shalomkadosh4691 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MattyG13 Im not sure if you ever watched him but he’s not NBA material. All he does is bring up the ball and pass it off. In addition to that he can’t shoot for the life of him. In my eyes he was only in the league bc his dad hyped him up.

    • @MattyG13
      @MattyG13 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @Shalom Kadosh before he got hurt he was averaging 13/5/5 with 2 steals and shooting 42% from 3... I don't think you've watched him lately... nice try tho

  • @h.sowandegray2913
    @h.sowandegray2913 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    For my own knee issue I found out that it never really started in the knee. The entire leg works in concert all the way up to the hips. I found my gluten imbalance and my lack of strength in my glute minimus was my issue. Causing other muscles to overwork and to pull on my knee. So glad there are people online to get different opinions out.

    • @allisonbrady1364
      @allisonbrady1364 ปีที่แล้ว

      gluten imbalance?

    • @h.sowandegray2913
      @h.sowandegray2913 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@allisonbrady1364 lol glute. My muscles.

    • @JeffHoopAdventure
      @JeffHoopAdventure ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glutes being weak is a very common problem and I bet it's my issue as well.
      Who diagnosed and figured this out for you I'm interested.

    • @h.sowandegray2913
      @h.sowandegray2913 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JeffHoopAdventure One particular PT. I had 4 pt's total but this one guy in his 70s lead me down this path. The 3 others tried to tackle the knee directly but that never worked.
      I recently found a great channel. If you are interested, look up a channel called - Corexcell Sports Training & Rehab

    • @JeffHoopAdventure
      @JeffHoopAdventure ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@h.sowandegray2913 ty for the recommendation I will check it out!
      I want to resume my dream of dunking at age 40! These knees will be bullet proof in time, gl with your fitness journey!

  • @MrNiccholas
    @MrNiccholas ปีที่แล้ว +325

    I'm not a big basketball fan, but my heart goes out to this guy. I've struggled with idiopathic pain since I was about 8 years old 20 years ago. I remember a doctor explaining it to me by saying it's idiopathic meaning the doctors are idiots and can't figure it out yet! While obviously that isn't true, it did a lot to mentally help a scared kid who was in a lot of pain. I've been told by doctors so often that they don't know why I'm hurting, it's actually reliving when they find something wrong! Because that means there is something they can do to help me!

    • @NK-iw6rq
      @NK-iw6rq ปีที่แล้ว +12

      same ive been struggling for 4 years and am unable to do squats or run, and doctors tell me there is nothing wrong with my knees ... then i scare myself into thinking maybe its something psychological. But i actually feel it and no one could understand unless they were in my mind and body.

    • @MrNiccholas
      @MrNiccholas ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@NK-iw6rq if I had a dollar for ever doctor that either directly told me or implied to me that it was all in my head . . . It messes with your head to hear that over and over! By the way, my knee was visibly swollen, red, and hot to the touch. I just reminded myself that if it's all in my head I must be the most incredible actor and have insane control over my body to be able to manipulate all these bodily systems!

    • @deontaialexander8883
      @deontaialexander8883 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I had a Cervical disc replacement 5 years ago. Hadn't had any problems until I fell and twisted my ankle. Now I'm having shoulder pain radicular pain in to my fingers. Doctor's telling me post laminectomy syndrome but I think it's something structurally off. I have chronic pain and Im telling them it's my shoulder but they said everything in my spine is OK. I'm like my shoulder feels like it's slicing my back in the nerves in it SMH. It's frustrating as hell

    • @ericobenaus9466
      @ericobenaus9466 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deontaialexander8883 Look into upper cervical chiropractic. I've had neck issues and referred pain for years and its helped me tremendously. I'm specifically doing atlas orthogonal chiropractic.

    • @Cruzylife
      @Cruzylife ปีที่แล้ว

      What did u have

  • @romethechampion6224
    @romethechampion6224 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Get this guy a job working with/for a NBA team… Great explanation and insight

  • @taylorswanson5890
    @taylorswanson5890 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    I had meniscus (menisectomy) surgery and trying to get back turned to pre-injury level turned out to be difficult. I had several nerve issues, many nerves(5) were damaged because of surgery. What made it harder was that no one could figure what was wrong saw about 30 doctor’s to finally get the right treatment and surgery. I ended up seeing a specialist in peripheral nerve surgery (this type of surgeon doesn’t take insurance and only a few in the country). But was diagnosed with nerve damage from arthroscopic knee surgery so I ended having a few nerve surgeries to try and repair the damage, which worked. Now I’m back to my sport and made nationals.

    • @Netbanger280
      @Netbanger280 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glad everything went well!!! How long was the time table you were out ?

    • @phomo561
      @phomo561 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great to hear you finally recovered! Congratulations on fighting through 👏🏾

    • @taylorswanson5890
      @taylorswanson5890 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Netbanger280 I was out 8 years, 3 years where no doctor could figure it out. Ended up with some permanent damage that is irreversible and now on para (physical disability category in track). I wear AFO brace all the time. But with my brace on I can do everything run, jump, etc.

    • @Jedbarbz
      @Jedbarbz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@taylorswanson5890 Daaaamn 8 yrs out for an athlete is like an eternity. Glad that your knee is ok now.

    • @morganschiller2288
      @morganschiller2288 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is why I really want orthos to start using IOM for hip, knee and shoulder surgeries. Its really easy to take a nerve out and have no idea ya did it. Spine is fun and all but I’d MUCH rather be doing ortho cases. Knees and hips are my jam

  • @NK-iw6rq
    @NK-iw6rq ปีที่แล้ว +16

    In many cases where an xray or mri doesnt show anything that could cause pain, it ends up being an issue with nerves. So there may not even be anything physically wrong, however his nerve may be damaged and continues to emit the feeling of pain.

  • @oopurpledove
    @oopurpledove ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Thank you for sharing your expertise with us. You’re easy to understand and keep it short enough that I don’t lose interest in what you’re explaining. Thank you again.

  • @zakberliner7926
    @zakberliner7926 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I absolutely LOVED this video! It was incredible getting to hear what your steps and thought process would be in a medical confusion like this one. It was suuuuper informative and one of my favorite videos you’ve done!

  • @codypetrie9647
    @codypetrie9647 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I was waiting for this video! Thanks, Brian!
    I'm a big fan of his game, and hope he returns to the court soon.

  • @readywhen
    @readywhen ปีที่แล้ว +20

    From Lonzo dunk compilation videos, I see similarities with D Rose...
    EXACTLY like D rose, Lonzo ONLY jumps (jumped) with his left leg OR a left-right plant. NEVER a single-leg jump with his right, or a double-leg jump with a right-left plant.
    And funny story: this is EXACTLY how I fucked up my knees too! Not so funnny actually.
    Jump imbalance is a real risk factor - we don't need academic evidence to see that. We overload one side, and ignore the other. It's a matter of time till you have a bad landing on your weak side. And it's a matter of time till your strong side can't handle the volume and intensity anymore and your body starts to develop imbalances below and above the knee. Thats when things REALLY start going downhill (speaking from experience).
    Coaches need to see this and force their players to take a step back to balance out both sides. The only reason this wouldn't be done, is IMPATIENCE and COMFORT. We feel comfortable using our strong side and fixing our weak side takes time and effort...
    ...but eventually, you're gonna have to pay the price.

    • @okeythegoat2332
      @okeythegoat2332 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Facts dawg

    • @bonkersdonkers7381
      @bonkersdonkers7381 ปีที่แล้ว

      My younger brother only dunks off his left leg. This is a cause for concern actually. Thanks for sharing your experience. What’s the solution then? Weight lifting to get the other leg strong too?

    • @MIKEY_585
      @MIKEY_585 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bonkersdonkers7381yeh probably and trying to get him used to using both legs

    • @readywhen
      @readywhen ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@bonkersdonkers7381 You're right. Strengthening both sides independently, as well as working on mechanics / motor control of both sides independently. In practical terms: practice jumping and landing of either leg, and weightlifting exercises using either side independently. But don't forget there's a lot that goes in-between weightlifting and jumping: mechanics, motor control, coordination... That's what will tie strength from the gym and movement on the court together.

    • @Hoop639
      @Hoop639 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is an interesting point, but I'm not sure how much we can do. IN training we can make an athlete jump off their nondominant leg and strengthen it for sure, but if an athlete only jumps off one leg or plant in-game and has been doing it for 10 years it gets really difficult to "even them out". With the amount of volume your strong leg goes through compared to your weak, it would be impossible to match it, but I do see the importance of spending some time working on it.

  • @rayromo2470
    @rayromo2470 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Man I remember the bulls were looking dangerous with lonzos passing and defense. Hope he comes back full forces and finishes what he started.

  • @isaiahscurry7778
    @isaiahscurry7778 ปีที่แล้ว


  • @notoriousosc1669
    @notoriousosc1669 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It’s crazy D wade played his whole career with no meniscus on his knee, hope Zo can get back.

  • @dangeiger9796
    @dangeiger9796 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    As a Bulls fan this is frustrating

    • @shaangrewal886
      @shaangrewal886 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine how he feels. Poor guy

    • @dadillonful
      @dadillonful ปีที่แล้ว

      Why? He’s not good at all

    • @ichirosuzuki2252
      @ichirosuzuki2252 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dadillonful L take. He is a very valuable 3 and D player that can also handle the ball, lol

  • @samk2407
    @samk2407 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Lonzo is also pretty clearly hypermobile, and as someone who plays basketball with hyper mobility, there's a lot of weird tendon pain issues you can have if your muscles aren't sufficiently stabilizing. Zo has some really unique movement patterns, and I wouldn't be surprised if this was related to some kind of musculoskeletal instability. I had a mystery foot injury that put me out of commission for almost 2 years but barely even showed as more than inflammation on an mri. It's only now that I've switched shoes and rehabed the strength in my feet that I can play pain free. On the timeline of a pro athlete though that could be unthinkable.

  • @starmanx25
    @starmanx25 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro you're so talented this is amazing to watch your breakdowns.

  • @caldwell2253
    @caldwell2253 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man you sharp at what you do @Brian Sutterer M.D. great analogies, especially talking about the microscopic clean up, B. Roy reference & everything else detailed. I immediately thought of D Wade as you were going in.
    Ty for the knowledge

  • @Tiazz.
    @Tiazz. ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s funny I was looking to see if you made a video about Lonzo a few days ago and now here it is! Amazing work Dr. S as always!

  • @deepaknambisan3251
    @deepaknambisan3251 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely top-notch video, as usual. Thank you 🙏🏾

  • @griffinhays2053
    @griffinhays2053 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    4:36 I'm sure this is just a case of Lavar having no clue what he's talking about

  • @marcrinadaniel9144
    @marcrinadaniel9144 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr Sutterton this was so enlightening. Hope things work out for him. As u said we never know what people did when they were younger! Take care Doc until next one

  • @hezcobar
    @hezcobar ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice new set up. Thanks for the video!

  • @mickyhansen6869
    @mickyhansen6869 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Love the troubleshooting.

  • @williamscarcia7903
    @williamscarcia7903 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I searched your channel for Lonzo videos half a day before this video came out haha wow!

  • @nathanwashington9784
    @nathanwashington9784 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    My biggest issue with this whole injury recovery process has been the Bull’s coach Billy Donovan’s updates. They’ve been so consistently negative and scathing towards Ball’s recovery timeline and seem to place a lot of the blame back onto the player for injury issues the team had a responsibility to resolve. I understand the frustration of one of your stat players not being able to play but it really doesn’t seem like Donovan is in Ball’s corner whatsoever with the comments made so far and I can only imagine how much more difficult recovering would be with that lack of support.

    • @alb4271
      @alb4271 ปีที่แล้ว

      what is an example of his negativity towards ball?

    • @truthbringer-6748
      @truthbringer-6748 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​​@@alb4271 he can't give you an example because Billy hasn't been negative. He's honestly the only one that's been transparent. When someone ask about Zo, he usually just gives a straight answer. This guy's thinks Billy is being negative because the front office has been giving people false hope.

  • @kuros2349
    @kuros2349 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Reminds me of the Brandon Roy situation

  • @TheTony024
    @TheTony024 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Lonzo should probably travel to your office Doctor.
    I feel for Lonzo. A former 5 Star athlete. A top pick. Highly scrutinized.
    But he was turning the corner before his injury, just finding and establishing his role. He got a big contract.
    I fear he’ll never recoup the burst and quickness he had as a teenager. If a Knee is lingering this long, is it possible this injury could be career ending? His path is altered now and Im afraid he’s going down a path a kin to Derrick Rose and Brandon Roy.
    What you said, about checking his other joints, is genius out the box thinking why we love you Doc. Keep it up.

    • @joeknapp9162
      @joeknapp9162 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zo’s such a cerebral player that he’ll have value for a team even with diminished athleticism, should that be the case. Definitely praying for him though, love his game, seems like a good dude too 💯🙏🏻

  • @Plant_12x
    @Plant_12x ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've seen people saying that Lonzo is faking this pain so that he can just ride the bench and collect his money. This really annoys me because I spent most of my Highschool soccer days with odd injuries and pain that my teammates and coahces thought I was faking. Can't handle ridiculous people like that

    • @I.am_Groot
      @I.am_Groot ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I think it is silly to say he is 'faking' but with the Ben Simmons pulling his nonsense folks are going to side eye anyone being out for injury when it seems they should not be. At this point they have obviously tried a number of things that are not working and that will continue to raise questions. I hope to see him back next season but at this point it doesn't seem likely

    • @jcw034
      @jcw034 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would you listen to people that aren't him about what he is doing? He literally posted videos of him running and jumping a month ago and you taking what randoms say online about his intent? Lmao

  • @zueswrath123
    @zueswrath123 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Doc, I love the explanation. But every time I watch your videos I feel pain in whatever part of the body you talk about!

    • @ballislife9924
      @ballislife9924 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I always get anxiety when he talks about Knees because I already had an ACL tear and three meniscus tears

  • @robertorobato1748
    @robertorobato1748 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video as usual!

  • @acesauce_media
    @acesauce_media ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video I really enjoyed this information

  • @semi6544
    @semi6544 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. Thanks.

  • @williambreeze2659
    @williambreeze2659 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the breakdown doctor 👍

  • @Glaedr11
    @Glaedr11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had chronic knee pain through high school, I remember hearing the term patella femoral, but the doctor just basically told me to strengthen my legs. I had to take anti inflammatories constantly to play sports. Stairs and sitting still my with my knees bent were hard.
    Eventually went to a chiropractor, who told me my hips were drastically shifted. Took 2 years of regular hip adjustments but my pain slowly but surely went away, got to about 95% relief. Standing upright my feet used to make a 90 degree angle with each other, and now maybe like 15 or 20. In college I started lifting instead of just being active and being in sports and remaining pain went away.

  • @Vitamin.Z
    @Vitamin.Z ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome 33 in the background! You must be an honorable man.

  • @RobustMustache
    @RobustMustache ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brandon Roy is another player who had muscle imbalances that were putting extra load on his knees. There are videos of him doing some banded walks and you could see his knee caving inward as he stepped. This is a sign of muscle imbalances and weak muscles around the hip.

    • @chironjo
      @chironjo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Zion Williamson is going this route too, unfortunately .

  • @itaiaharon8617
    @itaiaharon8617 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been waiting for this one

  • @Cuwop2
    @Cuwop2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this info doc. I could've really used this vid 10 years ago 🤣

  • @andysemo4059
    @andysemo4059 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Had a doctor tell me once, when you cut looking for pain, you’ll usually find it. Chronic pain is no joke.

  • @darknessjamaal
    @darknessjamaal ปีที่แล้ว

    Been a huge fan of yours for a long time. But what is funny about this video it was both very helpful and very not helpful at the same time! I've always been a person that needs answers and while you've given me answers its not the ones I was hoping to receive. I figured you'd be the person to miraculously solve Lonzo's issues haha

  • @JohnpaulArt-gc6nm
    @JohnpaulArt-gc6nm ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love your channel. would you please add Supercross/motocross athletes to your content? Those guys are specimen when it comes to pain and injury. Check out some of Cameron Macadoo crashes and KEN Roxzen path to arm recovery….right now Malcom Stewart a fan favorite is out the remainder of the series.

  • @briant1745
    @briant1745 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m a huge Lonzo fan but damn is it difficult when his ankles and knees are constantly imploding, the bulls and pelicans were so much more fun when he was there to throw lobs to Zach Lavine and Zion Williamson respectively but I fear those days have long passed

  • @rachaad
    @rachaad ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pathology is so important to not ignore… and I think that problem with Ball … also I have runner knee ( Patellofemoral Pain syndrome )and Chondromalacia, and it’s extremely painful when I do sharp turns and loaded when I go up the steps . If he has that he needs go through Pain management therapy.. I wish him well get a solution

  • @eddiephysics4107
    @eddiephysics4107 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a really great problem solver.

  • @lowbatt777
    @lowbatt777 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maybe it's time for lavar to call this dude up

  • @chuckjacobs3239
    @chuckjacobs3239 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had issues with my knee on 2018.. I got a MRI, and the doc say... Boy ya legs is weak, work out those hamstrings, glutes, quads, basically the whole lower body... Needless to say I haven't miss a leg day since. Lower body feeels good, and I'm pounding out that 🐈 too. Thanks doc!!

  • @donaldpriola1807
    @donaldpriola1807 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's a tough break. He had worked hard to improve his game, and was getting the credit he deserved. I wonder if some of this might be psychological?

  • @rizdizmcniz
    @rizdizmcniz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PT here. I’ve been watching him since day one. It’s his ankle/foot creating the hip weakness that trickles into bad knee mechanics. I’ve said he wouldn’t last even before the injuries started. Wonky mechanics aren’t always a guarantee of pain/dysfunction but he’s been suspect from day one. Hopefully someone in the room will check the ankle. Trouble is many physicians are only focused on the individual parts and don’t have sufficient understanding of complex interregional dependencies.

  • @hectormoraga3780
    @hectormoraga3780 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good insights as always Doc. A question for you I hope if can help to understand late collapses in Running and how to avoid it..... See Australia XC championship how the best female runner in nowdays totally collapsed meters before finishing the race. Greetings from 🇨🇱 Chile 🤞😇

  • @5naxalotl
    @5naxalotl ปีที่แล้ว

    desperately waiting for an update on this. sounds like they're about to attempt something super radical and i'd appreciate some technical insight

  • @BUTT-HEAD666
    @BUTT-HEAD666 ปีที่แล้ว

    This really heartbreaking as a Bulls fan I send my prayers and best wishes to Lonzo I don't think he'll ever be able to play basketball in the NBA again after This.

  • @GarrettWorcester
    @GarrettWorcester ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "That's a really nice shirt you're wearing!"
    My knee said this while you were discussing cartilage wear, meniscus degradation, and hip pain. Although I'm not a professional athlete, you could have been talking about me in this video.

  • @ksagar1030
    @ksagar1030 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you make videos on tennis? For example, Rafa’s RF ablation or Djokovic’s hamstring tear?

  • @robojimtv
    @robojimtv ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr Brian I think the discussion about his ankle is important. When he used to where those awful BBB shoes I wouldn't be surprised if that made things worse.

  • @B_Lo95
    @B_Lo95 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had bad tendonosis in my quadriceps tendon. It was horrible, felt great one day. The next day would hurt like hell. Made no sense.

  • @jerryneil8558
    @jerryneil8558 ปีที่แล้ว

    my toughest surgery and recovery was a almost complete tear of my meniscus which they took out

  • @Kay-ki7qs
    @Kay-ki7qs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the possibilty that he has CRPS? I had a posterior tibial tendon tare and after the surgery when it was healed, I still had extreme pain. It took them 4 doctors and 5 years to figure it out.

  • @ooinvsaoo
    @ooinvsaoo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks to TH-cam usually annoying autoplay while scrolling feature, I get to see this video. Blew past the thumbnail twice

  • @treygray2817
    @treygray2817 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you make a video on Bobby Orr's knee injury?

  • @davidmoser3535
    @davidmoser3535 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love hearing lonzo talking about stuff that doesnt exist.

  • @tradtrad1000
    @tradtrad1000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you do an update with his new surgery etc?

  • @elcee3292
    @elcee3292 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel the pressure to get surgery to get back on the field is a driver in shortening careers. Yes PT may take a while, but ultimately may actually lengthen a career rather than stressing knee structures via surgery over time

  • @MistaPea106
    @MistaPea106 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I wonder if anyone can find a way to get this to Lonzo, Doc is very articulate and smart I think another professional opinion coming from
    Him would be great for Lonzo.

  • @williesiems7929
    @williesiems7929 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a video on David goggins knee and body injuries he’s had

  • @JJakaJerardRuns
    @JJakaJerardRuns ปีที่แล้ว

    I had terrible knee pain from dunking too much on 10ft rims when I was only about 5’5 . Knee pain was so bad I could barley walk and I had a little bump in my knee . Ended up jogging for 4 years and not touching a basketball and now I can play basketball again

    • @WyWid
      @WyWid 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@Breavisthat’s what you got from this comment? Dunking isn’t the point he’s trying to make. He’s saying how he progressed through he knee pain. When he said that he could dunk he was giving us some context as he’s a freak athlete. People like you are why there’s so much bullsh. Can’t think critically

    • @WyWid
      @WyWid 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I too have a big bunk on my left knee. I play hard everyday

  • @mrlucky704
    @mrlucky704 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i have a partial tear in my left knee meniscus like 5-6years ago and I can basically walk/run for alittle bit but I will have discomfort and be limping if i do it too much...I have been thinking about getting surgery done and I dont know if I should just cut it all out or what...I basically can still walk/run but definitely no fast cutting when running and the "weak/discomfort" is annoying as well..what do you recommend Brian Stutterer? I just want to be able to run/jog again without discomfort/limping after(I basically had it scanned awhile ago and am at the step where I need to get it scanned again before surgery, just curious your initial thoughts).

    • @NeoAndersonReloaded
      @NeoAndersonReloaded ปีที่แล้ว

      I would strength your legs. I had same issue. It flairs up sometimes but not as much. The pain is a piece getting caught in the joint.

  • @morganschiller2288
    @morganschiller2288 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its awful to get the imaging done and take it doc to doc to doc and be told there is nothing there. Its madness and it drives you nuts. Lonzo needs to see my boy in Cleveland. He started his career being the ortho for the Bulls.

  • @AndrewL31413
    @AndrewL31413 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had patellar tendinitis and doctors just treated the symptoms of the patellar. It turns out it got completely resolved fixing my quad muscles that were pulling on the tendon too much.

    • @isaacvaha7659
      @isaacvaha7659 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did you strengthen the quads? What do you mean by fixing your quads. I’m curious because I play D1 football, and have been out due to this same pain in my right knee.

    • @AndrewL31413
      @AndrewL31413 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@isaacvaha7659 my quad muscle was not able to function properly and making my patellar work more than it should. Try foam rolling the quads and see if they gain better mobility and function.

    • @antonvannelli9085
      @antonvannelli9085 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In some cases foam rolling can help to neurologically reactivate that area for the brain (sensory information/bloodflow etc), in other cases not. I specialize in neuro reactivation so I am aware of what he is referring to. I have worked with hundreds of knee cases. I have yet to see one of them that does not have a SERIOUS quad activation issue. While the hip and foot are very important, if the quad doesn't function correctly then there is no ability to load the leg in flexion (think wall sit) or in extension without "feeling" the knee- let alone having pain. Of course we must figure out exactly where and how the quad is failing to fire, which is once again, a brain problem more than a leg problem. The brain is failing to send the correct signals, and this system must be reprogrammed properly if we want not only full function, but to push past what were our previous limitations. I really hope this helps, and that your D1 career is going well!@@isaacvaha7659

  • @andrenickatina415
    @andrenickatina415 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey doc, different topic but i'd like your input on USADA and UFC, specifically with IV ban and the recent change of less than 100 picograms of steroids not counting as a positive test.
    My issue is some of these USADA rules have major impacts on the legacy/career of the fighters, but I'm not sure if these rules are accurate from a medical perspective.
    Should Jon Jones' positive steroid tests be reversed because of USADAs rule, from a medical perspective? If Islam Makhachev used IV to rehydrate before his last fight, should that cause his win to be disqualified? A lot of the fans just think "rules are rules", but the basis of these rules is lacking.
    Thanks doc

  • @phomo561
    @phomo561 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope that you get to see Lonzo and maybe you can see if you can’t help him doc!

  • @jonathanlau6964
    @jonathanlau6964 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agree about the approach with a diagnostic injection. Thing is I assume that these docs have tried that. I assume they do know that it is coming from the joint because of that (and not the hip or ankle or extra-articular as you alluded to). I also assume that in general the trainers and docs would doing all kinds of training to treat for PFS even if that isn't high on their working diagnosis or differential. I might be making assumptions about his medical team, but I have to assume that over 365 days they have looked at most things. The one thing that would worry me most would potentially be a diagnosis of CRPS (complex regional pain syndrome). I would imagine if the Bulls did know that he had CRPS after multiple surgeries, they would not announce that as it would likely completely ruin his future trade value as it is notoriously difficult to treat and unpredictable at best in terms of outcome. Brandon Roy is a completely other story. I do not know the whole story, but it sounds like he had OA early. Whether it was because of his ACLs or chronic recurrent injuries and inappropriate return to sport and playing while unstable and injured, nobody will ever know. But nobody should be doing "microfracture" surgery in their late 20s in their knees in hopes that it allows them to return to one of the most athletic of sports. Microfracture is a stopgap at best for old people... not for young people. I loved Brandon Roy, but short of him having some horrible inflammatory arthropathy which would just be unlucky... someone mismanaged his career. Keep up the great work. Hope they figure out Lonzo, but I have a very very bad feeling about this.

  • @Kaiwui
    @Kaiwui ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could be CRPS especially following trauma to the knee and the multiple surgeries that seem a bit unwarranted. What do you think?

  • @dee_1016
    @dee_1016 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I feel bad for Lonzo 😢. He’ll never be the same

  • @btnbatv649
    @btnbatv649 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I have this I have just recently got a x ray on my knees and both knees came out as good but my knees always hurt when I jump play basketball and I can’t even really dunk anymore because of it tryna do knee stretching and hip to help the pain because even up to r steps I can feel pain

  • @luv4jets
    @luv4jets ปีที่แล้ว

    If I were Lonzo use Advanced Icey Hot cream maybe even a stronger version of it on his knee. I think it lasts for 10 hours, use it around the clock because eventually the pain won't be there anymore. When you put Icey Hot on anything it feels like you put 10 lbs. of ice. It numbs the pain. I do a little exercise at first but gradually as the knee feels better ramp up the exercise a little bit.

  • @SilentSamurai8
    @SilentSamurai8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man…I’ve got a similar situation going on right now and the specialist I was sent to by our primary is (neither are really) no where near as articulate as Dr Sutterer.
    To be honest, it doesn’t seem like they care or try much either. It can be so frustrating. I just got another MRI for a recent incident and am trying to make an appointment (on Monday) with one of the best in the area I live in. If he can even explore my problem and explain things in this way, I’d be happy. That way there is a direction to go in.
    I can only imagine being in Lonzos situation…even money doesn’t help sometimes.

    • @antonvannelli9085
      @antonvannelli9085 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you ever find any relief? I know the feeling. I was in the same boat with my low back for years.

  • @nysockexchange2204
    @nysockexchange2204 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lonzo outta just publicly release ALL his medical records (relating to his knee) so excellent doctors like you can more accurately diagnose his condition. Even though Lonzo is rich and can afford the best healthcare, I'm concerned he's getting the wrong advice. Lonzo needs to stop seeing these quacks and bring Dr. Sutterer on board so he can get back on the court asap.

  • @TheGbPackerz
    @TheGbPackerz ปีที่แล้ว

    What would be your thoughts on it being crps?

  • @chrismackenzie4841
    @chrismackenzie4841 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have opinions re: plica syndrome as a possible cause of anterior knee pain?

  • @ronmeza6400
    @ronmeza6400 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are your thoughts on the genicular nerves? They are purely sensory and branch off the main nerves you mentioned. Can these get impinged?

    • @morganschiller2288
      @morganschiller2288 ปีที่แล้ว

      They can get impinged by inflammation and scar tissue. You can get them ablated.

  • @OJTheBLAK
    @OJTheBLAK ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought he needed microfracture, but his injury seems more complex than that

  • @elizabethgeorge168
    @elizabethgeorge168 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Lonzo, we got good and bad news. The bad news is we have no idea what's going on. The good news is that e get to name it after you."
    But for real, I hope he's able to recover. He may never get back to his old form, but hopefully he can at least play again.

  • @MrMic18650
    @MrMic18650 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you explain how to deal with osgoodlader?

    • @WyWid
      @WyWid 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Man I have the same thing. Just mainly in my left knee. A little in my right knee. Got it when i was 13 and now I’m 20. It’s still there and I still have the same amount of pain. Can’t jump off my left leg

  • @counterpoiseag6068
    @counterpoiseag6068 ปีที่แล้ว

    My guess is Ball had one or more of the dreaded cartilage repair jobs and it didn’t take (micro fracture, OATS, cartilage transfer, cell resurfacing, etc.). Likely career-ending, but can ultimately fix with a knee replacement down the road. Such a shame 😖

  • @hendawg69
    @hendawg69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so sad man, he was the reason I started watching basketball

  • @chironjo
    @chironjo ปีที่แล้ว

    Lonzo needs a meeting with Lebron’s doctors. Yeah, those ones that prescribed him those recovery meds he had down in Miami.

  • @koilerREC
    @koilerREC ปีที่แล้ว

    sounds like an old school case for Dr. Gregory House.

  • @ThaSouthMU
    @ThaSouthMU 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The question I have is how intense was his initial discomfort during the first injury with the bulls? From what I understand is that many players in the NBA are playing on meniscus pain and even tears. I suspect I injured my meniscus playing pickup ball over a decade ago and unfortunately I didn’t have access to the kind of healthcare as Ball, so I simply continued living my life with it… Long story short.. I wonder if it would be better to let the ball repair itself on its own and over time.

  • @chaike9001
    @chaike9001 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been waiting for this, all this schooling and Dr’s still can’t give accurate diagnosis

  • @Sadoodi
    @Sadoodi ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The poor guy had so much potential

  • @patrickwerner4723
    @patrickwerner4723 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do doctors ever reach out to other clinics when they find something that they have never seen or heard of before

  • @rudyrivas3144
    @rudyrivas3144 ปีที่แล้ว

    Injuries are unpredictable but nba needs to have a relief for teams

  • @rapgodreloaded9259
    @rapgodreloaded9259 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Whatever going on with his left knee should be rectified with some sort of modern healing medicine.

  • @mattmillslagle8402
    @mattmillslagle8402 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s up Doc I had an almost exactly similar injury and would love to email and explain to you what surgery fixed my knee!

  • @Chico_Tee99
    @Chico_Tee99 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel bad for Lonzo smh but I'm more surprised Brian is actually from Indiana.
    No one has an blue ISU college gear unless you're from here. Subscribed👍

    • @BrianSuttererMD
      @BrianSuttererMD  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Grew up in terre haute! Wife went to ISU, I went to rose hulman. Then did med school at IU

    • @Chico_Tee99
      @Chico_Tee99 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BrianSuttererMD Hometown hero for sure on the road to 1 million subs! and I was at IUPUI🔴

  • @ryansview2155
    @ryansview2155 ปีที่แล้ว

    clamshells and sidesteps!!

  • @extrafreshhh
    @extrafreshhh ปีที่แล้ว

    I see the indiana state jersey. I wonder if this guy is from terre haute. If so, my mom may have worked with him at some point lol!