New 13" MacBook Pro (2020) is Here!
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Apple has just launched a new 13-inch MacBook Pro.
And, at first glance, it seems a little confusing. But, here’s what you have to understand right up front - There are really two new 13-inch MacBook Pros out now:
🚶♀️- A 2-port low-end that’s pretty much the old 13-inch but with the new Magic Keyboard, and;
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Man, this is the reason why Rene is my go-to when it comes to everything Apple. He is so thorough, so detailed, so perfect.
sevins oh I agree
herishmerish Yet you’re still watching
R.R. should have a million followers already, the man is perfect in his reviews, always a great job Rene
I've been excitedly waiting all day for your video. Thank you for your speed, Mr. Ritchie!
I did a ton of research first or it would have been faster!
Good Job @Rene Ritchie !
I really expected the 10th-gen CPU on all models. Keeping the 8th-gen feels cheap (and it's not even cheap!)
Yeah, it's to keep prices down on the low end models. 10th gen are pricey, and Apple uses other pricey parts already, so it all adds up. (When you factor in the usual margins.)
Rene Ritchie its funny cos intel dropped 10th gen desktop prices.
@@yordan826 I think it's a different kind of 10 gen for the MBA.
Rene Ritchie apple is a trillion dollar company. Mac's barely make up their profit numbers.Garbage greedy company.
@@ReneRitchie they updated MacBook air and lower the price why they cant done it with MacBook pro
For my basic needs I feel better now with my base level 2020 MacBook Air, because of my tight budget I was afraid that I would be missing out too much on picking up a 13 inch MacBook Pro but now the differences between base models is not as massive.
your videos have really imporved over the last year or so. more succinct and straight forward. video and effects quality are cool too. Nice job!
I recently found you through the TH-cams recommendation algorithm and I have to say, I am very impressed with your videos. Definitely subscribed!
Unforgivable to release “pro” macs with 720p cameras in 2020. I’m shocked that they have.
Hyperbole much? But more to the point - you ahve to consider design, engineering and supply chain issues in all of this... As some have said this is an interim upgrade ahead of a more full upgrade later in the year - thats the one you have a right to complain about if the FFC is still 720p
I agree, but I don't know of any manufactures that are any different. Dell's XPS 13 is 720p. I'm hoping the webcam changes when the display is upgraded to miniLED and 14in. Fingers crossed the Bloomberg report is correct that the model I want is coming in the Fall.
Tbh I don’t give a fuck about the web camera lol
Yes. We need 4K HDR webcams so I can examine my acnes.
MacBook Pro 2020 with gen8 is more like a joke
No choice but to pull trigger on $1799 version. Catalina really screwed up my flow for FCPX and Photos. After 6 months of working with Apple to fix it. Thanks for the heads up.
Rene, I just bought the MacBook Air 15, 16gb 256ssd.... do you think I’d be better swapping for MacBook Pro with 16gb and 512ssd? For about $400 more
Should I buy this MacBook Pro or wait for the 14” MacBook Pro instead 😢 I’m worried about that 14” will be released in Oct / Nov 😩
there won't be a 14". im going to buy lenovo again. would have been nice that apple upgraded the webcam, and cpu and why still no ports or sd card reader? or a spill proof keyboard. that would be nice if the MacBooks were passing some kind of mil spec.
@@mrrolandlawrence Why would you expect Apple to do any of that? Why would expect Apple to upgrade the webcam, when all ultra books have shitty webcam? Why would you expect Apple to include an SD card, I mean I want that too, but of course they won’t add that back when they remove that and didn’t even add that in MBP 16”. And spill proof keyboard lol, seriously? You are just asking for disappointment.
Rene, just wanted to congratulate on the usage of the alpha version of the Apple Upgrades section as an overlay in the video. Neat!
Was waiting for this release but disappointed 😞
Ahmed Adeel same same ended up just getting a refurbished one mins after it launched got a better deal.
Me too :(
@Rene Ritchie The best, most complete overview of the new 13 inch MacBook Pros in under nine minutes?! This is...AMAZING!
Now that this came out, can you compare base new 13 vs 16 older... Keys are not a concern because I use a wireless keyboard. Apple missed the mark not going 14”. Yes full review. I have a 2017 and would like to hear more on this new release. Congrats on being the first to release a video on the new 13.
Rene, the lay over configuration is a great touch. Provide great context while doesn't seems intrusive as a whole screen shot.
I got a entry level 13 inch MacBook Pro last year right when it came out. Do you think this alone is worth the upgrade? There’s the 4 years of Apple warranty for the keyboard so I’m thinking i should hold out. I’m very delicate with my MacBook as well. Any thoughts?
If you can live with the key board stick with it. Its about your personal experience. There are quite a few people who are fine with the butterfly switches. And as you said you got the warranty of 4 years anyways. As the video explained. Powerwise there is no difference.
With the updated keyboard & more base storage, should I go with the base MacBook Pro 13” or the i5 MacBook Air? I’m not a pro user yet, but my last computer was the 2015 12” MacBook so I plan to keep this purchase for 4-5 years.
It seems like an OK upgrade to me, there aren't any real thrills here but I appreciate Apple wanted to quickly establish keyboard parity across the entire MacBook range. Even though I don't mind the butterfly switch, what I've realised I don't like is moving between scissor and butterfly because my brain gets confused on how to press when typing quickly
Only one big problem: no 802.11ax (WiFi 6) support. Hopefully, when the MacBook Pro 16" gets "refreshed" this fall, it will have a new WiFi radio modem chip that will support the full WiFi 6E standard.
I have the money for the 13 Inch MBP with 10th gen with an externa GPU PUCK RADEON RX 560 SONNET. Which is the same for the 16-inch MBP base model 2019, but is it worth it? Which one should i buy
Going back to Mac OS from 4 years on Windows. I was about to buy the air, but then today this came out. I need a laptop for ordinary day to day use (browsing and media consumption) and some random photo editing. Cant decide if I need the 16gb of ram or not. Can anyone help me chose ? I’d like to keep it 4-5 years
I bought the i5 MBA and have had it now for a few weeks. This replaced my aging 2011 MBP. All was well until last night when, during a FaceTime session that went on for about 20 min, the fan become very noticeable (I was warned about this). While my 14 day return policy expired the other day, Apple granted me an extension so I can compare the i5 MBA with the 10 gen MBP. So I'm wondering- is it worth the ~ $400 upgrade?
My use is standard laptop work (including FT) but I also do some audio editing/analysis and music file conversion. The MBA did well for that. It was just FT. But now I'm a bit worried about the log term (I keep them for a while).
BTW @Rene Ritchie - great videos. Yours was the one that helped me make sense out of all of the noise. Thanks!
I'd like to see Rene Richie do a video editing shootout between the 16" MBP, the 2019 13" MBP and this 2020 13" MBP.
Thanks Rene for the super fast breakdown of the new 13” MacBook Pro.
This is not the “upgrade” I was looking for. I’ll be sticking with my 5 year old MacBook Pro for another year
One of the most professional apple reviewers. Keep it up, Richie.
Rene, thanks for the clear concise breakdown! One question: you said that the speakers are better on the high end than the low end. What’s your source for that? I couldn’t find anything on apple.com that confirms this. Thanks again! 🤗
Yeah the base model isnt as bassy
Not in the market for a MacBook anymore but glad that the 13-inch finally has the new keyboard as well.
Ah I feel like they kinda screwed this one up then. The 8th gen CPU pushes me off, even if the thermals are better than the Air's. I just wanted a casual laptop that was less bezel, more headroom, better design - but this ain't it chief.
exactly i was so disappointed when it was 14 inch or slimmer bezels
Yep they are screw I own an old macbook pro 15. For the prince of the 13 inch.
I think i have to go with dell xps 13 now 😢
Hi Rene, loving the quality of your work as always. One note tho, it's a little bit jarring everytime you say "and this is [insert product here]". I guess I had gotten so used to Vector 😂
In other news, I find 720p webcam to be the biggest let down. They could've improved it even if only for the higher end version.
Two awesome videos today! And this 13” will be my new daily driver. That form factor is best in my opinion.
Scott Miller Which one are you getting?
Simon S I ordered the 2.3ghz i7 with 32GB Ram, 1TB SSD. Probably overkill but I couldn’t resist 😂
Scott Miller it's not like you can upgrade it, so better safe than sorry.
James Smith Thanks for helping me justify it!
Is it worth upgrading to the new 2020 MBP or to hold off till 2021?
I want more info on TDP with the MacBook Air vs MacBook Pro. If the 2020 air is Y series chip and has a limited tdp such as 7 watts, and the pro has a U series chip with a 28 or 15w tdp then this is a huge differenc. Turbo Boost is awesome and sometimes in certain circumstances the Y and U series chips can trade blows but in other circumstances the U chip will be much faster and worth the 10% weight trade off.
Good video René!
Hey Rene, I do a lot of heavy data analysis but all on a work server using Citrix. And the rest of the time I browse the web with lots of tabs open, write up documents and watch videos etc. No gaming or any creative work. I've heard of the MBA heat issues but not sure which one to choose between the MBA or MBP. What's your recommendation?
Could anyone help me decide: Macbook air 2020 with the I-7 or a new base model Macbook Pro i-5. Which one will be beter suited for daily use at College?
I’m a bit disappointed in this update. The display, RAM, SSD, keyboard and 10th gen processors were good but it’s missing the following:
- dedicated graphics (this is a pro right?)
- smaller bezels
- 10 gen processors across the board
- 14” display
- Higher res FaceTime camera (4K would be nice)
DDR3 RAM! Where does Apple even procure these
Best channel ever
Thanks!
Only says it because it’s true!
Tom Daniels you are right
Rene Ritchie thanks 😊 for replying
I like the shape of the Airs but the touch bar and more color sccuracy of the Pros. Neither video editing nor 10 applications opened @ the same time however its still good to know they r thete ( touch bar + color accuracy) may be one day i will need them. Does it worth to pay at least $350 for the touch bar + more color accuracy?
I'm kind of pissed off. I bought a pro two weeks ago for school as my 2015 model just burnt out. Now this gets released? I'm really frustrated I can't trade in because corona closed all stores and I need this for school! Cannot send out for shipping 😡😡
I wonder what are the noise, heat and performance differences like with Air and lower-end Pro... and how much disabling turbo boost will help.
Watch my MacBook Air 1 month later interview with Ian Cutress. Just let Turbo be Turbo.
This is awesome, BUT I’m still holding out for the 14” mini-LED MACBOOK PRO even if it means next year!! :-) am I alone on this one??
I’m finally near the point where I want to upgrade from my late 2013 MacBook Retina MacBook Pro and Apple is really giving me a lot to think about. I’m essentially torn between the air and the “two” new MBPs.
Sorry Rene, this refresh is a no go. You definitively got the point. It's a silicon problem.
There is no reason to spend 3k€ on a 4core 10nm laptop without a professional grade GPU or buy the last year laptop with a new keyboard.
I loved the bit of sass that came out at 3:55 , haha , Rene keep the great content coming !
Is it just me or do other people keep waiting for Rene to say 'and this is Vector' 😂🤣😂
I just can't get past the touch bar. Give it a miss again for this year I reckon.
I've a question for Mac users
I use iPhone and iPad pro and love it
But in computer I use a windows ultrabook
Now question is does Mac allow freedom like windows?
I mean downloading pdfs or using torrent or basic ease of usage?
If so I'll consider upgrading when Apple releases the miniLED MacBook
I was just heard about this being released, I been waiting to see what they did, so I can decide if I will upgrade or not, I just don’t get it though. I got my other eye on the 14” ASUS Zephyrus g14 which comes with rtx2060, 16gb and the awaited beast of a cpu Amd 4800hs 8 core! The price £1599, Apple are just asking me to go else where ?
I really would like to understand where these two laptops sit. Upgrades to the keyboard and the SSD are welcome, but if I calculated the i7 10th gen with 512Gb storage and 16Gb am I right to see this price point is en par with the entry level 16" where I am getting a hexacore i7? In Canadian Dollars of course. Would you think the 10th gen i7 model is more for the people that need the portability? So maybe programmers, MathLab and those applications and the entree level 8th gen for (Highschool) students? What about the heat/cooling of these new laptops?
I was kinda shock to see that the 10th gen model is starting at 1800 dollars. The i7 model with 32gig and 2TB ssd sits at 3000 usd.
Thanks Rene for the best analysis of these two 13 inch iterations that I've seen today. Methinks there still may be a new 14" MacBook in the works but 🍎may wait until it can roll out their forecasted Arm processor for laptops.
How does this guy look both 45 and 25 at the same time :D
I like your new glasses! they compliment your face more than the last ones :D
the 16” model is looking really good against the 13” one… I’m in the market for a new Mac (not urgent tho) and I’m not sure if I should go for the maxed 13” with 2 TB, or spend another $1000 for a maxed 16” also with 2 TB but with a processor 1 gen behind
maybe less TB and go for an external SSD or upgrade your iCloud storage. The 16" will definitely be way more powerful. Also maybe consider having a look at refurbished MBP 16" as they are not "new" any more. Might make the decision easier
Awesome video. When you compare this (the entry level MBP) to the MBA 2020, it would be great if you could address users who do ms office tasks and websurfacing while also video chatting on various platforms (FT, Zoom, Google). So not a video creator but someone who does some multitasking AND definitely does not want to hear the fans spin (because they drive me crazy). I would really appreciate hearing what you have to say. BTW, relatively new to your channel but have been listening (podcasts) and watching all of your stuff. You’re tops! Wishing you continued success
The base MBP or the iPad Pro with magic keyboard ?
I’m thinking about the new model I am wanting some advice. I don’t do video editing but I do photo editing but I’m not a professional. I have a 13 inch MacBook Pro from 2013 that has worked very well but causes me issues with photo editing… Computer doesn’t but the app does. I’ve been waiting for this update and was hoping for the 10th generation processor. Given my light use other than photo editing is the eighth jenn processor going to be OK for me or do I really need to spend $1800 to get the tension? Thank you
Sorry Apple I was saving for a modern 13in, but you just disappointed me. Well dell XPS 13 here I come.
Gabriel Smith Apple: Well, bye.
KAC, I choose what is best, and don’t follow the herd like a brainless zombie.
Good previews and reviews as usual. Even though Rene is a big Apple fan he is still fair and critical in his reviews.
hey man great videos
When do you think the MBP 16” will be updated?
Had to bite the bullet and get this one, but I can’t stand that 720P camera. So easy to update. Not sure why they didn’t.
Wow, no WiFi 6 is surprising.
Personally think Apple got the new product line up wrong. What made more sense -
1. MBA 13" - $999 (1 Fan + 1 Heatpipe) (Y Series Processors are good but need better cooling)
2. MBP 14" - $1800 (2 Fans + 2 Heatpipes) (Pro users are willing to pay more)
3. MBP 16" - $2200 (2 Fans + 4 Heatpipes) (Ultimate MBP with all features and performance)
Have there been any improvements in the thermals or battery department like there were for the 16” MBP?
Im glad I didn't wait. Very happy with my new MacBook Air. 8th Generation CPU, common Apple, you take two steps forward and three steps back.
Hi Rene I need your help to make a decision.
Or anybody else who can advise me.
Currently I have a Surface book 2 2018.
And I want to buy new computer.
My last MacBook is from 2012, since that I bought 5 different laptops. Dell XPS, Alienware, Rog, Surface pro 4 and now surface book 2.
All these computers I still have with me, are in very good conditions but all have something in common, battery almost dead.
For the Alienware I already change battery 3 times. The surface book 2 is heating a lot and battery reduce 20% in 2 years.
But my MacBook Air from 2012, still have 8 hours battery life. This machine still like new.
So that's why I'm thinking in change my surface book 2 for a MacBook Pro 16. Because 3k USD is very expensive, I don't want to change laptop in at least 5 years.
So what do you think I should do?
1. Wait for surface book 3?
2. Wait for Dell XPS 15" 2020?
3. Buy the MacBook?
4. Do you agree MacBook is more stable and better have longer life computers than PC?
5. Or now with the new PCs all battery life is same?
This for what I need my computer.
Travel a lot.
Long battery.
Stable
I use Photoshop, Illustrator, and watch a lot videos.
I hope you can guide me to not spend my money wrongly.
So I did a quick check and man. 32GB at that 3222mhz speed? Seems pretty good man. with just a 1TB storage. I'll probably be fine.
Thanks for putting up these videos man. Really Really REALLY helpful.
So a similar windows laptop is about $200-400 less, that has more ports, touch screen, lighter weight, more cores and Wi-Fi 6... huh.
Would the difference between the 8th and 10th gen be that important for a musician working in Logic? I've heard that it isn't that different except in graphics, which I don't particularly need much in the way of.
Torn, definitely will get 10th gen. model if I get this at all but no wifi 6 and 720 webcam, come on!
Resolution won't make that much difference when you have to pack the sensor into that small a space, in-built webcams aren't ever going to be as good as dedicated ones. As for WiFi 6, are you actually in a position to be utilising WiFi 6? It's still so new that for most places it's too expensive or it's just not worth the jump.
@@alexwr Thanks Alex. Well, I can only afford to upgrade my MacBookPro every 5 years or so hence my interest in WiFi 6. We definitely update our home router every few years as we're both IT professionals. Not very future-proof without these things, especially as the globe is pivoting toward more WFH.
Fiona Lindberg totally with you
Alex Wilson It’s not worth to buy a new laptop in mid 2020 without Wi-Fi 6 capability. Not a future-proof purchase. Dell and HP have had such support for months now.
@@VeloNippon How long will it take for 6 to become standard, America maybe a few years. UK? Maybe longer...
can you tell me which is the best of the three? the new 13" high end, new 13" low end or new macbook air?
ridhwaans dell xps 13
As always depends on what you need it for. So no one will be able to answer your question. The best one objectively is obviously the high end 13". It has the most power but also the highest price tag...
If u have no money limit then of course high end 13 pro
If they do the same as they did with the 15” to 16” and release a 14” only 5 months apart then this is clearly a business strategy designed to empty the parts bins before the actual upgrade.
More likely the 14 just isn't ready and won't be for at least another few months. As the last Mac portable with the butterfly keyboard, and with constant rumors of replacement, they had to either replace the keyboard on the 13 or watch sales vanish. This was a reasonable stopgap under the circumstances: anyone with any experience knew the rumored 14-inch with mini-LED couldn't possibly release before fall at the earliest.
@@johnborges5938 I respectfully disagree. As I specifically said that if the release window is the same as the 15" to 16", that's more than just a coincidence between model releases, it's a pattern. Don't make the mistake of thinking that a giant company like Apple do anything by chance.
I also don't think it's a very reasonable excuse (or realistic expectation) that it's just not ready yet so they released a stop gap. They can't react to market rumours that quickly and just spit out an upgraded body, this had to have been in the pipeline for a while, so i think it's fair to say it was most likely planned. I do however agree that they just wanted to get something out the door with the upgraded keyboard so that sales would not only continue, but spike again before the real upgrade (I'd put money on statistical analysis showing their most significant sales periods coincide with new releases, so they want to maximise this effect). I also think that during these times sales are going to be significantly reduced regardless.
I'm not saying it's unreasonable for a multi-billion dollar corporation to want to get rid of old parts that they have sitting around, of course not, the alternative would be to throw them all in the bin? (In an ideal world they'd recycle them for use in future products, but that has costs attached and they won't choose to lose profit intentionally, especially if they can MAKE profit as an alternative) If anything it makes sense to do step by step upgrades to the product rather than wait for 5-10 years of development and do them all at once. My problem with the practice is that it's not transparent. And in this case would be clearly different from yearly releases and consumers having unrealistic expectations of always having the best.
They know that consumers would not buy this model if we knew a 14" upgraded version was coming in 5 months, and they know that if they weren't selling a lot of products in 2020 so far that they probably wouldn't be doing so before the potential release of a 14" model in 5 months time. Thus they have a window of projected low sales (Until the new release effect kicks in with the potential 14" model), and a surplus of parts to get rid of. So they intentionally release this one in the mean time to use all the spare parts and eek out revenue because it has the "new factor" (despite only being a small upgrade, if at all for base models).
They do so knowing full well that consumers will be upset in the near future (rightly so in my opinion, as they're breaking from traditionally yearly or multi-yearly release cycles). Unfortunately (or fortunately as it may become easier to predict) this seems to be a permanent part of Apples product strategy now, release a very minor upgrade at the end of a product life cycle to get rid of as many components as possible, just a few months before releasing the ACTUAL upgraded product. The same thing happened to the 15" MBP, and most recently with the iPad pro.
Given all of that, what do I think is the best solution? I don't know, i'm not an economist, a corporation, or a marketing guru. What I do know is that it feels manipulative and dishonest as a consumer and it would seem like the majority of people agree with me.
Jamielol - This new model uses the same body as before, unmodified. If the 14-inch display is really mini-LED as rumored, even Fall is a very aggressive release. And the butterfly keyboard fiasco makes plain that Apple doesn't plan everything they are eventually compelled to do. The keyboard replacement was forced on them by the market. The "business strategy" you allude to is, at best, their recently expressed commitment to do more regular and more frequent product updates for the Mac line. More frequent updates means less substantial changes in each one.
You are obviously entitled to your opinion, but they have plenty of methods of "emptying the parts bin" without resorting to the expense of any redesign at all, and their supply system management methods don't allow for sizable parts bins to start with.
@@johnborges5938 Fair points and thanks for a constructive response!
Is the body of the computer actually the same? Are the butterfly and scissor switch keyboards are 100% transferrable within the chassis? I expected they wouldn't be (and thus would require different machining and therefore development for said machining) but I may be wrong there. Also the case is thicker to accomodate said keyboard so i expected that that alone is enough to say it's not the exact same case.
Personally I would be surprised at this point if the potential 14" model is actually mini-LED. I don't think they would have set up a supply chain of multiple new sized screens (referring to the 16" and assuming the 14" would have been developed in parallel) with different technologies. I don't think we'll see mini-LED screens until the next major form factor redesign, whether it debuts in a MacBook, iMac or iPad remains to be seen but i think it will spread across the product range once it has been introduced.
Using the butterfly keyboard fiasco as proof that Apple doesn't plan everything they do, and therefor seemingly implying that my point of long term product planning is moot is lazy and simply not logical. Whilst they may not have planned to re-introduce a scissor switch keyboard at the outset of the butterfly keyboard, it has been an ongoing issue for years and they have had plenty of time to react and change trajectory, as proven by how long it has taken them to do so. I feel this only supports my argument really as it proves that even when faced with problems that they want to take action against, they can't do it overnight as a result of customer dissatisfaction, let alone rumours. So it may have been forced on them by the market, but it was not a knee jerk response as a stop gap. I think it's more reasonable that they developed the new keyboard for the 14" update and realised they could just whack that bottom half onto the old top half and make some extra sales.
Now that you point it out it does seem reasonable that they wouldn't have a large surplus of components, which if anything indicates why this product will only have a 5 month life span (again, this is all assuming there actually is a 14" model in the near future).
Jamielol - Some interesting points. The chassis has only minor changes, as attested by the fact that only the assembly thickness has changed by 0.2mm and the internal design is identical. I'm sure there is some minor retooling to accommodate the new keyboard and likely a hinge redesign. The base shell (as opposed to the lid) may or may not be thicker, but in any case it is clearly a minor change in the tooling.
I agree with your comment about the mini-LED display to the extent that, if it is NOT mini-LED, the present release is very odd and would suggest that it is some intentional corporate strategy - though I don't believe it is one to liquidate part stocks. However, the more reliable rumor reports regarding the 14 have all consistently claimed mini-LED. One can never be sure, but I would expect the 14 rumor is regarding a 2021 product. The 16-inch release does make the whole thing a bit odd, but with regard to displays there may be other constraints that determine rollout order. IIRC when Apple went to LED backlights the changes were product by product and not uniform and across all lines. I would not be at all surprised, however, if the current 16 could not accept a mini-LED display without a major redesign. That might portend that the lineup will not be getting major redesigns for a few years (after the release of the 14, that is).
As to Apple's planning everything, my point was simply that they clearly don't. I don't believe that the current releases of the Air and Pro 13 took 2 years of planning once it became clear there was a problem with the butterfly keyboard. Instead I think Apple attempted 2 separate fixes to the keyboard design to avoid exactly these bigger redesigns, thinking their intended product cycle could be salvaged. And exactly because it became clear by 2019 that the butterfly keyboard was poisoned by its reputation and was unsalvageable, they were forced to create these intermediate redesigns before their probable intended mini-LED redesigns no doubt intended for next year. Apple is a big company and can be slow moving, but when catastrophe looms, they can change direction, eventually, after all else fails. Any long-timer observer sees this as one of the company's defining characteristics.
Thanks for a spirited discussion, take care.
Thermals will hopefully be good on the 10th gen chips. Not the same missed opportunity of the new air.
If there is a 14" redesign coming late this year or early next, this really is the kind of minimal update they would have to do. My guess is that, if not for the keyboard issue, they would have simply waited for the coming rework to release all of these improvements. I personally am ok with it. Before it was really hard to get my head around spending $2000+ on the config I require, and with a crap shoot on the keyboard. Now I can get what I need for $1800, with a better processor and graphics and a reliable keyboard. Still painfully expensive, but much better.
I have been waiting for this but I am somewhat disappointed. Just purchase the 12.9” IPad Pro and awaiting it’s arrival tomorrow. It just may be my go to device after my old IMac 27” mid 2011 model, it’s not fast but functions good enough for LightRoom, and PhotoShop. Time will tell all.
the real question is, can this model compete against xps13 2020 or even the upcoming bezelless xps15
lalit spam for how disappointing and lazy this is? Highly doubt it
The higher model will beat it
Xps line is very similar to MacBooks, they all have poor thermal performance.
Ironically, I think the non-redesign is a good thing while the 16” redesign might be a bad thing. We have rumors that ARM will be used next year on smaller MBP’s, so perhaps we shouldn’t be surprised this release was nothing more than a spec bump plus keyboard upgrade. Apple doesn’t like redesigns just for one year because it’s too expensive, R&D-wise, which may mean the 13” MBP may be replaced next year with ARM and a complete redesign. So why’s the 16” not a good thing? It means it probably won’t go ARM because of the redesign. They slightly changed it to last a couple of years at least until they are confident about going full ARM with the lineup.
The current 13” doesn’t have a better webcam because a bigger one won’t fit in that slim top case, and it probably doesn’t have WiFi 6 because it probably needed an antenna redesign, which Apple wasn’t willing to do, so while the chipset supports it, the software probably doesn’t.
Mid range MB Air or entry level MB Pro for 1299. Which would you get, Rene?
as always depends on what you need it for and how long you intend to stick with it. Some web browsing and writing go macbook air. Photo, video editing or some gaming go with MBP. While the MBA might be able to handle more intense programs for a while it is not designed for a heavy workload. Thermals are just not made for it.
So will the high end spec'd model be good enough for editing, or should I upgrade to the 16 inch?
I'm in doubt here. When I choose my favourite internals for the 13-inch, I get to the price of the "lowest-cost" 16 inch. Wouldn't the 16" then not be better anyway on allll points?
Vincent Groenewold yes
Plz do a comparison of the 8th and 10th gen cpu in the new mbp. Want to know if the upgrade worth the money.
There isn't to much difference performance wise. They are already to be found in some windows laptops. The minor performance change in relation to a big price difference is why apple stuck with 8th gen. Notable difference however is to expect when it comes to graphic performance. So if you want to for example casually game on it (like me) the upgrade might be worth it
Fabi S. Well, if it’s true, then I probably just go with the 8th gen. I have no plans playing games on it ,only occasionally doing some videos. Thanks anyway.
Dang still no WiFi 6, and SD card slot not coming back, but the faster memory and cap at 32 GB is a *very* good start, now I have to really think between 16 inch and 13 inch. But 64GB and better thermal efficiency is very much preferable. Yet portability is no laughing matter.
Let’s have Rene’s 1 day review soon?
it sucks that you can't onfig the model to have 8th gen cpu and DDR4 ram... :(
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Got the money saved for the 14 i7, and they release a 13 and offer 200 euros to trade in my 13 2019 quad core. Thanks for saving me 2.5k Apple.
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they're staggering updates to give people a reason to update again when wifi 6 comes out with some other random feature :(
Probably waiting on 802.11ay at this point.
Sorry if I missed it in the video. Is the 13” equipped with the high-end mics? Thanks.
Not as good as the new 16 inch. Probably as good as the new air.
Rene Ritchie Thanks, Rene. Loving the content, and good luck with your channel and beyond :)
Help! High end, four ports (because of the extra cooling fan) or the new XPS 13?
Amazing vid
Thanks!
Damn. I was really hoping the 10th gen Intel MB pros would have that 1299 starting price....now I’m really wondering if I should keep my 2020 MB air or return it and get the 2020 base model MB pro?
This guy has lot of knowledge. Awesome videos
Apple just gave me something else to think about when getting my daughter her next MacBook as she starts college as a freshman this Fall. Since she’s a light user, and coming from an 2014 Air, I was thinking 2020 Air, with some bump in specs to make it more “future proof” (i5 and 16GB RAM). Now with the base 2020 Pro with an i5 and 16GB of RAM, it’s roughy about $100 more. The Pro is going to be heavier and as I said, she’s not using it for graphic intensive applications. Still, tempting to get the Pro because it’s a Pro, but I may still stick with the Air. Any thoughts appreciated! And thanks for the great video - I just found your channel and am a new subscriber.
Mort Shuman - the thermals are better on the Pro, which is a plus for longevity in my book. The Pro also has substantially better multicore performance which would likely be utterly wasted, but it is there in the event of unanticipated needs. My feeling is that the Pro will be likely to handle anything you can throw at it for 4 years; the Air will likely be fine but has a slightly higher likelihood of needing replacement because it is not up to the required tasks. For $200 or more I would probably take my chances on the Air, but unless weight is a serious problem, for only $100 I would get her the Pro and consider it cheap insurance.
John Borges Isn’t the 10th Gen i5 Quad Core in the Air better than the 8th Gen i5 in the entry level 2020 Pro??
Mort Shuman - I believe it is from a lower power family, but it is a newer chip. It scores about 10% faster single core than the older one in the Pro, but the Pro outperforms it in multicore significantly. By itself that would point to the Air as the first choice for simpler workloads. But the thermals for the Air mean that under sustained heavy workload it will throttle before the Pro. That doesn't make the Air a bad machine, but to my mind it makes the Pro a better choice for lengthy ownership as an insurance policy against a wider variety of use scenarios. At only a $100 dollar difference, I also think you would be able to more than compensate for the cost differential on resale after 2 to 4 years.
I will say, though, that it's entirely down to personal preferences and concerns. I could see a very solid case for the Air, say, based on the fact that it is lighter and easier to carry around. That advantage alone might be worth an *extra* hundred bucks for some people. In the end you might consider taking your daughter to an Apple store and noting if she has a strong preference for one form or the other. Best of luck in either case!
John Borges Thanks for the advice!
I'm wanting to upgrade for almost two years now and now for $1500 they offer 4 year old keyboard, 3 year old CPU and 8GB DDR3 ram... Its an IQ test, if you buy it, you failed.
What mack book is recommend for somebody that needs a computer to work on schoolwork and do some video editing? Should I stick with the base model and just upgrade ram to 16gb?
When you say video editing, to what extent? If you are doing lots of 4K video and intensive additions with lots of clips and transitions and longer videos (10 min or more), you may want to upgrade to the 10 gen versions.
WatchReport.com simple starting a TH-cam channel, maybe 4K 60 if i use my phone.
@@watchreport Awesome thanks!!
so, you always tell us about Nebula but still upload here first? I couldn't find this video there
The last time Apple did this was the year they switched from Power PC to INTEL...APple Chips coming this year?
Should have been Ryzen 4900U. That would easily run in that chassis but offer a massive performance bump at a better price. Consumers get screwed when they choose Intel period
I don’t want people to see me in 1080p when working from home. The more pixelated the better