Severalls Psychiatric Hospital. Film footage from 1963 showed the first group home.
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- Severalls Psychiatric Hospital opened in 1913. This film footage from 1963 showed the first group home for former patients. This scheme evolved into Phoenix Homes Colchester. The footage was filmed by Anglia News.
The horrible fact is that over half of the people who may have spent decades in the old asylums had nothing wrong with them, certainly not any psychiatric diagnosis. Even many of those with an actual diagnosis it was fairly benign, panic attacks or anxiety saw people shut away for years. Also people were put away because they were unmarried mothers, unwanted children, had a physical problem like deafness. It was tragic, they often became institutionalized amd unable to cope on their own. I recently met a guy who had spent 20 years in a psychiatric hospital in the 70s and 80s he had completed a university degree and just finished a PHD - he was giving a talk about his experiences. Now however we have swung too far in the opposite direction and vulnerable people are being left, no support - we can’t seem to get it right
My Nana lived at Severalls hospital for over 4 decades until she died there. Dad would take our family to visit on most Sundays, and would bring her home for Christmas. Dad was only about 8 years old when she was admitted. He didn't see her again until he was about 35 years old.
She was diagnosed as melancholy, these days known as depression. We left England to come to Australia in 1970 when I was 12 years old. I never saw her or any other family again.
Because I have suffered from mental health issues for most of my life, including depression, I feel a connection to her.
You are absolutely right about it being so easy back in those days times to lock people away that these days would live in society. I never thought of her as being any different to other adults. She lived through both world wars, and had 5 sons. I can't imagine what she must have been through in her lifetime. My dad passed away nearly 4 years ago at 90 years of age. He and I were always really close and I miss him dearly. I was always the black sheep of the family, and I know it was because they can't accept my mental health issues. I am estranged from all my birth family and 2 of my children because of this. All except my dear brother who is so much like dad and also has his own issues. As well as one of my son's, who also has his issues. In my opinion we were the most normal ones in the family.
Family are supposed to love and care for each other unconditionally which mine don't. I was judged and criticized all my life except by dad.
You also got it right about there not being enough support now. My case manager retired 7 years ago and was never replaced. His job no longer exists and I have tried everything to find other help but there is none. That is due to our government making budget cuts to our health system.
I really hope you see this. When I read your comment you really hit the nail on the head for me. I thank you for understanding that this is something that none of us ask for. It is a real problem in society these days. You can feel free to contact me if you wish, I am also on Facebook.
Yours Sincerely,
I too suffer from depression and as they all say well by the exterior of you, “I would have never guessed you would be so depressed. “ That itself is truly the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard and it’s definitely inspiring me to me to get more educated on the psychology of what’s “crazy” and is not.
God bless them all.❤️
With my nana it was just called melancholy. Now known as depression. She spent over 4 decades in Severalls and eventually died there.
God bless her. I’m so sorry to hear that. 😢
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😢 sorry to hear that
Such sweet lovely souls💝 Awesome vid...wish I could have spent some time with them back then...God Bless them all💝
How sad the amount of years these women spent in the hospital
Thank you so much for your video. This vintage insight into psychiatric care is invalueable.
Dear Jimmy: Yes, it is quite invaluable to me too because I'm surprised what an "enlightened" view of mental health services it presents for that point in time. ... jkulik919@gmail.com
The sad thing is that these ladies probably had nothing wrong with them when they were admitted to the hospital they would have had a diagnosis of "Hysteria" or had a baby out of wedlock it is shocking to watch and to know how our modern mental health services have evolved over the years
DONT say what isnt true. no woman was put away for a baby out of wedlock, unless she was mentally impaired.
@@marilynwillett804 yes they were I worked in an asylum I worked in mental health this did happen
Yes my friends great gran was out away for being unwed and another's friends dad out away for being deaf. Happened all time for single mums.
No. The ones who were sent there were completely mental.
@@joagate3259 who put her away.
Harmless little old ladies, living in the community. Good luck.
God Bless them sweet ladies
Back in the latter half of the 19th century, husband's would admit their wives and daughters to mental hospitals that had symptoms of PMS, not knowing of the condition back then
People were actually much smarter than they are today. Especially medicine
awwww gee such nice ladies
I wish currently in 2018 we had funding and possibly group homes or care for our patients that have mental illness. Instead they're just ignored and forgotten and left on the streets or put in prisons or jails it's really sad that we can't find answers in recent times.
Meg Random site There are lots of community centers, special housing arrangements and psychosocial rehabilitation centers...there just aren't enough. Also, once a person runs afoul of the law it's difficult to extract them, there's enough stigma on mental illness alone without complicating it with a criminal history.
@@SchatziMadchen I've heard these facilities will only let a patient stay 48 hrs and they go back on the streets.
@@megrandom1419 It depends entirely on the situation. Unfortunately, only the squeakiest wheels get the grease. Here's an example of someone dropping the ball big time, it's very sad. A Virginia State Senator, Creigh Deeds tried to get his son in hospital but was entirely unable. It won't let me post any links for some reason but google him and it will really open your eyes to the plight of the mentally ill. Community Centers are doing their best but are sadly underfunded.
Ya they just kill the baby and call it womens choice now.
god bless all the patient who never made it out of there horrible torture on theses people RIP brothers and sisters
I wouldn't want them to be my Brothers or sisters, they'd tear my face off.
hine HFIE JUIWKQK I have no idea why you made this comment. These people were trying to care for these patients. Maybe they had a lack of understanding at the time regarding the full spectrum of mental illness, but this wasn’t one of the terrible places (though there were some). This is my life’s work, so I care more than most people - they are trying to do good here,
@@mcbeeze It's plain to see, Mr hine HFIE JUIWKQK is a kind compassionate individual who simply doesn't understand what is being done here. His comment was neither rude nor crude. He's not from this country and probably has only seen the horrific way our developmentally disabled and mentally ill were treated in institutions pre the 1970s, cut the man some slack. The one who's comment was reprehensible was the one following him which you totally ignored. Come on take up for the population you supposedly advocate for or is that only against someone who is a little confused himself? You remind me of a fat little schoolyard bully.
My wife and I have watched an older lady across the street from us go crazy, BS crazy!, the past fifteen years as that's when her husband died. She doesn't have her kids or grandkids visit her except maybe once a year when they want something. I'm sure she'll be dead in a year or two. One can't have that kind of broken heart for that many years and not have it take a toll on her. My wife and I do help with some simple things like shovel snow from her driveway or have her in for a cup of coffee.
Has she no friends ? Is there nobody there to aide her in getting proper health care ?
Poor woman.
I am pleased to hear that you help this lady. The world needs more people like you.
It's a blessing that she has you both for company, it's the little things that mean the most, bless you both. ❤❤.
It's the little things that let poor defenceless lonely people know someone really cares about them and to ask her over for a cup of tea sometimes will really help, you are such good caring people and there should be more like you. 🤗.
Thanks for helping her, but u could've used a more polite word than crazy ,, either way, that's mighty kind of you and the misses to share coffee with her
my mother in her young days was a nurse there and sadly in later years a patient whome i visited many times,
susan druce wow... That’s weird to think about, I wonder what she thought since she knew the type of people that were there and why they were there, what’s the reason she was there??
*i'm so sorry~i pray she is at peace..*
I'm sorry
@C. L.
What do you mean? I hate to go Awww and then get pissed!!
As long as their happy, That's all that matters.
Really have to wonder why any of these women were institutionalized in the first place.
Mental health problems. They are now ex patients and have been placed in a group home as we are told - they suffer from side effects of the medications they take, notice the mouth movements, but they seem calm and content with their life.
Many people, these days, don't realize a husband could institutionalize their wives for VERY little reason. This happened more times than not. If the husband wanted to be with another woman they would claim their wife was crazy and the psych hospitals would believe them and keep the wives for YEARS.
Sad . The way women were treat child out of wedlock could lead to a lifetime of these places. Heartbreaking ❤️
My poor mom was in institutions all her life godbless her
RIP Albert Duggleby who died here in 1916
Thank you for showing. The hospital had a dreadful reputation as I grew up near there in the 70's/80's - probably as false stories that my young mind picked up. My mother spent some there when dehydrated and in her 40's placed on a ward with anorexics and people with other eating disorders, I expected the atmosphere to be like the ship of horrors but it wasn't. Shame they don't show the architecture of the magnificent Victorian mental institution it was but actually, thank god it showed 'ordinary' folk brought back to society!
Your mom was one of the few lucky ones , disgusting what the butchers doctors did
Frontal lobotomy experiments i understand , which was a perfect solution for a government at despair with options in dealing with mental health. If the totally barbaric treatment was not successful then often the patient died , hence the morgue and mass graves that exist at this location .
I really doubt anyone in there was concerned with the magnificent Victorian architecture, that would be the last thing on their mind, if you didn't need a mental hospital an hour in there and you sure would do
It was a shithole in the 90s - my mum was in there and the standard of care was poor compared to other psychiatric hospitals she spent time in
That's just awful 😢 I know people who were in hospital back in 60s 70s. Treated like a piece of garbage. All they needed was love care and gentleness like they gave to everyone. Dear hearts 💕 they were precious.
You're kidding, i hope. Better get a physiological degree first.
poor old soul left in there far to long sad
It breaks my heart...
severalls was grim old place that's now all gone and houses now stand where it was as a footnote to this a couple of us snuck in there one night when it was closed it was really odd and pretty creepy
My Nanna lived there for decades. We used to visit her with our dad-his mother, regularly, and took her out now and then, and took her home for Christmas. She seemed quite content there and my best memories were of the beautiful grounds.
She was admitted when she was about 36 years old, my dad was about 8 or 9. He didn't hear anything about her until he was 30 years old, when the hospital rang him. After some thought he decided to go visit her and then took myself and my family. We all came to Australia when I was 12 years old. She remained in there until she passed away last sometime in the eighties. Nobody else went to see her.😢
@@lindamcgregor4080 very interesting thank you for sharing that
I'm just curious what their individual diagnosis was.
Same here
These ladies probably went through a lot most of them were obviously born in the19th century and lived through WWI, the Great Depression and WWII
Sad. The fact is, we need psychiatric hospitals more today than ever before. Many homeless in America have mental issues.
And few psychiatric facilities.
This is the UK for you.
It's Australia too
So sad seeing lady’s struggle with involuntary movements.
Just watched a two part documentary about powick psychiatric hospital ward f13 made same year as this 1963 and that place was deplorable even for then,but also though the flip side is that another part of powick hospital was ground breaking for its treatment of psychiatric disorders and it's treatment of patients post illness,but this other part was distressing seeing elderly ladies being treated that way....watch it powick hospital ward f13.....the comments section has been blocked and no bloody wonder. ....
I watched this. Very sad the way the ladies were treated
I too saw that.. I cried. Those poor women, the birthday that no-one came.. The director with his smugness.. No dignity, no compassion.. A friends Mom passed away in 2020 in a nursing home, sweetest lady.. Its kinda still the same, medicated, forced to be on a rigid schedule and forced to sit in a chair for hours.. Covid was so hard, no visitors, had to beg just to see a loved on for 15 minutes out a window.. Needless to say she was ready to fly high
Most of the people I meet on streets in 2018. Are bat shit crazy. These poor nice old ladys are 1000 times more capable of self care. Then all the millineals.
It's really cool how you can attack an entire group of people for no reason. Does it make you feel special to be born when you were? You know, that date that you had zero control over. This film had nothing to do with millennials, yet you have to bring it in. It's amazing that these old ladies can be more capable than 83 million Americans.
Kate Reynolds
I'm just stating facts ma'am my brother has four boys that graduated from UCLA Princeton and they are living at home with the parents now after graduation and they were in the top of their class theTheir living at home and they're not that intelligent
They are borrowing money from me
Millennials I Helped raised a kid and he went to Boston University and now he's living with his mom.And they are borrowing money from me
He survived the University system but he is extreme left and is having trouble .
the other kids I meet on the streets I question their intelligence they're wearing headphones skateboards dirty clothes the whole generation is Crazy they always come up to me and ask me to give them money on the streets.
they are confused the whole internet segregating their ideas to specific points they're just dumb stupid even the people in the top of their class and universities are absolutely green inexperienced not observing the place around them these women I noticed there were called crazy are not any crazier than the millennials I am coming across every day and the grocery stores around the streets working in the meal jobs that they do.
self starting intelligent motivated Prudent
Young men and women they are not
If you haven't noticed The change in the generation of the cell phone head wearing skateboardWriting self mutilating tattooed up millenniums if you haven't noticed this II don't know where you're living are you living under a rock
By George ...he's right you know.
I have to agree with you there. These uneducated "graduates" have painted themselves into a corner of debt and laziness and crazy nihilistic delusions. They are now dreaming of a living wage or whatever they call it, money given to them to just drift along on and continue living off the good working people of their country. Just like they lived at the Uni with no responsibility and then lived off their parents and now they want to live of everybody else. Not a brain in their heads. No morals, no ethics, no religion, no conscience, left socialistic ideology....yep the old ladies would make them look like morons when it comes to living skills.
He's right
Those ladies seem fine to me
No it's very Progressive treatment in Attitude for back then I'm impressed lot of places today can take lessons from them
my mother is 79, has a full-time job and a gambling addiction...
All of the ladies had excessive mouth movement, I think that is interesting. I wonder if it is from a medication
Psych nurse here…..you are right. It’s tardive dyskinesia from antipsychotic meds (I.e. haldol, thorazine, prolixin, etc). Unfortunately, it is permanent. Sad. She probably didn’t even need those meds.
Yes, from antipsychotics. I have been on them half my life - largactil first and then, still now Seroquel. Also many different antidepressants and tranquilizers.
Cold Chester(english) - Cheste fríolento(spanish MX).
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And they all look most normal in video these women ANSWERING NORMALLY guess billionaires sisters mums to be proved mental but GP looks extra ordinary perfectionist acting extra smart.
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Dad gact but it did happen people pit away for what was ince considered mentally ull. Some were a bit slow or had what wiuld ne treatable outpatients. Dome people needed and still do need the structure of an institute the lomher they in the more dependent they become. I think its gonr to gar the other way people need help and its not available.
How come answering normal mild health conditions why proved mental and have to be in mental asylum strange???
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Bloody UK
All the money this country used to spend on hospitals like this and free university , do you wonder where the money has gone ? Well i can tell you why in recent decades why this country has crumbled is because of the money spent on immigrants upkeep . There is no rationale explanation why we have declined so much .
Most of these places were worse than a horror movie. Forced electric shock, lobotomies. Look up the story of, Rosemary Kennedy.
Her Father ordered that. Read her story first before posting.
@@Mr.SLovesTheSacredHeartofJesus I did. Her father was a damn prick.
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