Bedlam Asylum-Bethlehem Hospital - From Abyss of Madness to Modern Institution
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Humbly requesting the *Palais Ideal* from Ferdinand Cheval
Truly a masterpiece of "Naive" Architecture
Back in the 80s, while visiting the Imperial War Museum, I and two friends quietly asked one of the curators if they would 'show us the upper floor'. He brought us to a secluded stairs. After climbing to the top, he opened a door and let us enter a dark room. As our eyes adjusted to the dark, we saw the chains and manacles, lots of them hanging from the brick wall. As the darkness enveloped us, the atmosphere started to bare down on us, from behind the curator said to us, welcome to bedlam. As a bunch of young squaddies, we could only imagine what life must have been like there. That was only the surviving top floor. Several floors of human beings manacled to walls, no wonder the cliché is, its like bedlam in here.
I want to say thank you for covering this topic. I've been in hospital multiple times due to mental health, and without todays fantastic care here in the UK I would not be alive and would have died 20 years ago this year. Despite what people think of psychiatric hospitals the care is really good, not just from doctors and nurses, but also from other patients as they talk to each other about there conditions and basically form a kind of support group.
i go to the gallery often, and the grounds at bethlem are perfect for picnics. richard dadd is one of my favourite artists and i found his work long before i realised that the building i was driving past every day was his home for most of his life.
Sometimes when I browse Twitter I think it was a mistake to shut down the asylums
Same with Tik Tok
You too?
All of social media to be honest!
@@joeyr7294 Tucker Carlson should be shut down yes
@@BonShula ok? Lol
A few years before my mom passed away she told me about her cousin. He was put in a mental hospital by his parents in 1938. From what mom said it seems like he was autistic. Times were different. He died in 1970 never getting out of there. It’s incredibly sad to think about.
What's worse is that people want to roll disability rights back to that point, and don't see what was so wrong about it.
German here.
An uncle of my mom was put in an asylum in the 1920s.
He seemed to have a developmental disorder but was a calm and friendly man.
He stayed there until the Nazis took over.
Poor guy died in Aktion T4.
i go to bethlem for the museum and gallery quite often and it seems like a decent place to be held if you have to be held and the residents exhibitions are always intriguing. being sectioned is an unpleasant experience, but it were to happen to me, bethlem is where i would hope to wind up. if nothing else it's in peaceful and beautiful grounds.
I find myself torn. I want to be angry at the inhumane treatment people suffered in the earlier years of the facility. But, I also know that the insane (literally meaning, 'lack of sanity') were treated with the information available at that time. I did my dissertation on insanity in Hinduism and the West, and it was something I struggled with throughout the writing; especially since I have a mental illness. Hindsight is easy for laying blame as humans have progressed. I wonder if in 200 years, the way we deal with mental illness now will be considered barbaric?
Yes. They will definitely consider our treatment barbaric. I am mentally ill as well.
It doesn't matter if they didn't have the knowledge to do better, torture is wrong and we in the future can look back and learn what not to do!
Yes. It seems likely that future generations will look back at puberty blockers, hormones, and genital mutilation as horrid and preposterous ways to deal with mental illness.
My days wouldn't be the same without all your videos. Here and on your other channels.
Don’t forget the podcasts! I wish all his channels were also podcasts.
@@SaS-cs7hz They would be good but he deviates from the subject matter every 10 seconds.
@@SaS-cs7hz Biographics used to be. Initially it was almost the Casual Criminalist/Decoding the Unknown style where Simon just sort of discussed the person for about 40 min after recording the video, but after about episode ten they changed to just the audio from the videos. Then even these stopped after a hundred or so.
I agree, I’d love to have all his channels available as podcasts, but I think TH-cam is just more financially viable.
@@wowplayer160 But that’s the best parts! 😂
@@--enyo-- Every once in a while sure yea it's fun but it's too much in my opinion.
Although the beginning of this institution is horrific, I'm glad that there was a good ending to this video. Mental health being given the good treatment it deserves is vital to the continuation of our civilization.
i live near to bethlem and i visit often for the gallery and museum, it's where i would hope to end up if my mind started wandering.
you have to cover the Borstal homes next......in the uk the roughest areas of most housing estates are locally know as Bedlam
I second the motion.
There’s a museum in London called the Wellcome collection that I visit every time I go to London and they once had an exhibit on Bedlam me and my friend came out of it almost crying, it was so sad how mentally I’ll people were treated back then.
How do you think people with ADHD were treated?
pretty sad how they are treated these days too, cutting funding for health as a whole is a mistake, but mental health issues seem to be on the increase and cuts just make things worse.
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 it depends on how far back you are going but before the second world war most mental illness was grouped under very few headings, i doubt adhd was even a diagnosis until to 70's
What a touching episode, made me think about the Bohnice institute here in Prague, I wonder if itd make an interesting episode as well.
i've been to prague - fantastic place.
0:55 - Chapter 1 - The knight's gift
3:00 - Chapter 2 - Bedlam begins
5:30 - Mid roll ads
6:30 - Chapter 3 - Piles of filfh
9:55 - Chapter 4 - New building, old habits
13:20 - Chapter 5 - A newer building, new habits
16:15 - Chapter 6 - Voices from the wards
18:50 - Chapter 7 - The last relocation
- Chapter 8 -
Such an interesting history of such a notorious institution.
Hello from America, Simon! We love your channel. Would you please consider making a video about Lake Tanganyika in Africa? Thanks!
17:47 Hey, now!!
I talk to myself, and I'm coarse looking
Sounds like the remodeled Bedlam had their patients living better than me dude. A constant routine and 3 meals is honestly all I can ask for right now.
you have to be mad to go there :)
The things that happened, however regrettable, didn't just happen there; they were universal.
Thanks for the neverending content Simon and Co. ☕🚬
I spent three weeks in one of these institutions. One of the best periods of my life. I often recollect the mental hospital with fondness.
It doesn't help that until the 1800s being a physician was considered a garbage career. They were looked down upon because medicine was rarely effective (understandably with the limited science available at the time). They were basically treated how "psychics" are treated today. So physicians often consisted of people who could never even be considered for med school these days.
1st trip into the Whistlerverse today. Cheers
00:34 I love Hogarth, especially "The Rake's Progress."
Classic 18th Century humour, the era of Dr. Johnson.
14:21 Why am I getting the urge to share this video..?
Bedlam begins.... OMG 😂
Wow, what a haven of misery. Imagine the smells.
A great episode Geographics team. Thankyou.
lol. i live down the road from bethlem and i visit the gallery and museum every few weeks, it's small but an amazing place, always something new. i was flicking through videos about the museum and SLAM - south london and maudsley health, so imagine my surprise when this pops up. buy some art as well if you go, some quite famous folks have been resident. look up richard dadd for instance.
i hadn't heard of "under the dome" but this was quite a radical idea to implement, art, music and writing are great therapies, and to have a magazine dedicated to residents experience is amazing.
it's well worth a visit, the museum and gallery, and gallery shop are small, maybe an hour or two at most, but the grounds are quiet and well kept and a good place for a picnic. highly recommended, and easy parking too!
The original Arkham!
From Lovecraft? Wasn't that a city, albeit one w8th many strange goings on?
Noticed this is in Geographics and not into the dark. If you want a Mental Institution foe Into the Dark, look up Milledgeville State Hospital in Georgia. Even in the mud 2000s before it closes half it's building, the hospital was known as sketchy. To a point all Georgians thimk anyone from that small city as I'd they were a bit bonkers. At one time it was the largest mental hospital in the world. And talking to former employees reveals dark secrets, rooms, and hauntings. Although honestly don't want Simon to discuss the ghost stories
He always has an arrogant attitude to those kind of things. And it just takes the fun or learning from it.
Into the dark? Did you mean, Into the Shadows?
That ad transition
03:05 - I'm an autistic 31 year old bloke from Leeds
Thank god I wasn't alive then, I would've been ostracised and an outcast
Possibly sent to an insidious place like this 😞🤦🏻♂️
I have cerebral palsy. I’d suffer the same fate, unfortunately..
Honestly, I was born in 1974 and even then there was a good chance you would have been sent “somewhere else.” Looking back I remember kids I knew of varying function levels just…not being there anymore one day. I know we still don’t get it right often, but hopefully it will get better with each generation that passes.
Simon: Better solution; tear down the old Bedlam and build a new hospital. And the perfect occasion to do so came about in September 1666.
Me: Well that's convenient.
Me:....
Me: X.X wait no please....
Right? Thank god for modern medicine.
I’m reminded of the old Boris Karloff horror movie “Bedlam”, which was about the hospital at the time of the infamous Monros. I recommend the movie.
We need to build more.
Love the communal bath scene...dude on the right is like "I can fly!" like a toddler 🤣
Both terrifying and progressive - though I suppose that could be said for most hospitals as old as this one.
Gives me the shivers to think - if hauntings were real - just HOW haunted the Imperial War Museum must be. Or the other sites for that matter.
Whatever TH-cam pays you, I'd bet u deserve more . Your channels are A+++ content. You put modern national geographic and discovery channels to SHAME! And I pay a 120 dollar satellite bill monthly but find myself watching your content pretty much every day and my satellite TV once a week, if not every 2 weeks (dvr records all week and I watch a couple shows at once during the weekend). Keep it up please and thank you for your content.
You should talk about Diversatech State Hospital in Manteno Illinois. It was the local “haunted” building we all heard crazy stories about. Would love to hear the geographics full detailed rundown of that place. They legitimately experimented on people there. Also one of my friends has a house close to the hospital and told me that people used to escape the hospital and then get lost in the corn and then farmers would find dead bodies come harvest.
Please do an episode on the Pacific ocean 😊
In Amadeus 1984 Salieri isn't shown as being in the madhouse until the end.
The opening paragraph describes the US mental healthcare system today...
Not really.
You should cover the New Madrid earthquakes of 1811 and 1812
Hello Simon
My school was right next to bethlem always patients getting onto the playing fields
In 1908, my great-grandmother was “admitted” to a mental institution because she became pregnant out of wedlock. Her partner was run off by her father, and he was never allowed contact with my grandfather-his child. Ggfather wrote many letters to his son, letters the boy was never allowed to know even existed. Young Walter was unaware of all this until he was grown, when a relative (who thought the whole plan was cruel) revealed everything.
Imagine growing up thinking your father didn’t care for you. Grandpa went on to marry and have 8 children of his own. His motto of “Family First” has informed a lot of our family’s story since.
If you were back in the UK you'd think we were living in bedlum at the moment. The world has gone mad.
When I was a Kid and me and my brothers were acting up my Mam would Come in and Shout ITS LIKE BEDLAM IN HERE. we never knew what that was about
The band old blind dogs has a great song about this called "bedlam boys." It's in the Scott's dialect though. So u have to listen carefully.
The interesting thing is the Marine that was chained and got so much sympathy for fixing Bedlam was rather violent. He attack d other patients and hospital staff. Not approving never letting him out, but not all those at Bedlam were not dangerous.
No one said that. They just said you can't torture people. It's not medicine and it's immoral! Especially when done to the mentally ill, violent or not!
@@mellie4174 Yes, and the methods of treatment may have contributed to his demeanor as well.
hey, can you add notes on videos if you use feet, inches, etc. converted to european system?
Quick correction. BR is on Orchard Road, Beckenham. Easy mistake to make as it borders Croydon
Women suffering bad Menopausal symptoms often were put in these places.
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madness running the place sadly the Doctor,Nurses and the helps that couldn't be given direction to sort out there sad lives and but it all on the patients
You should do a video on the danvers asylum and the Staten Island one
And now I have some new places to visit on my next trip across the pond!
The Bethlem Museum of the Mind is quite brilliant and thought provoking.
They tried to beat the rabbit beast out of them.
This is ridiculous. Same for the US all old high schools were asylums as well. And into Canada. W grounds full of bodies.
I think years ago the mental institution was terrible and the people were treated terrible but I think the new mental health units are a very good thing. I have have been in a mental health unit and it was fine but now it's all gone the other way too much care in the community .
not much changed in the filed...
let jack rip!
funny thing pro utterly psy logics identify as gods in slave world refuse to see the similarity of own doing to what is going in your world (seemingly, I mean it looks like it is a known phenomena where ever you from).. hope you have all them particles and space travel for humans. god is not a good option for you lot... (in my insignificant opinion)
cheers.
The past was the worst
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Bedlam on the lam
Good good. But still I dare you to dig to the levels of the United States Foster System that involve the Social Security Administration and the Department of Human Services. They financed my childhood abuse with no compensation. Good luck.
Another reminder that the past was the worst
Thank you for your work, but you talk super fast 🙏🇧🇪
Bring back sanitariums
Is there proof of a sub surface ocean which may contain life?
Yes. Loch Ness
FIRST!
I still would be pretty skeezed out about being treated for my mental health at LITERALLY bedlam, even though obviously it's changed. That place has bad juju associated with its name.
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Open them back up for the Looney people called it's,that's and maybes
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