Michael and pat have to have the worst on sceen relationship i have ever seen. There always arguing and CONSTANTLY hostile towards each other ! Not believable at all ! it annoys me.
Well, I'm glad you have had a picture perfect relationship with your significant other. My marriage had its moments where we were arguing quite a bit. My husband was a controlling person and at times it was too overwhelming ~ we finally divorced. I missed him at first, but now I realize I'm better off without him, but lonely, as I don't believe in marriage after divorce. See Matthew 5:31-32, KJV.
@@Skylark_Jones ..well Pat and Mike was a really classic Hepburn-Tracey movie (1952 ) and it's bloody hilarious... when my mum and dad argued they would end up laughing and saying that they were just like Pat & Mike....dontcha geddit...the producers here are having their own wee private joke
Thanks for the series! Mike might have had his dream. Of being married to Pat if he gave her as much attention as he gave his own needs. When the exes nutter boyfriend targeted him it never occurred to him that he'd stolen keys from his kids. He says he'll do anything for Pat how about getting her damn jewellery back off Jimmy, he doesn't deserve commander position. Keep the great acting coming.. Slainte.
every time i watch a episode I tell myself this one is the best one. Then another comes on and I say the same thing. all i can say is that i live in the USA and Trial & Retribution is the best.
The extremely violent mad man ie intruder - (HELLO?) - *broke into Mike's flat* , threatened Pat with broken glass, the intruder then turned on Mike with the broken glass, Mike shot him in self-defence. Prior to that the mad man has been violent towards his ex-wife and kids, has been stalking & harassing them with menaces! He has been terrorising Mike and his loved ones. Why is *Mike* in trouble exactly?
But he attacked him with broken bottle and was extreme violent. It was certanly not in cold blod. More like he wasn't himself after all what that lunatic did.
Was the reason he left his wife ever explained? Stupid woman. I was shouting in my mind’dont open that door’ when the Knowles guy was begging her to. ! Some women never learn. Useless!
@@Alessiasbackheal Perhaps you misconstrued my comment. I was not suggesting that the show was unlikable, just some of the fictional characters portrayed. They did seem like real human beings, not always ones that I would like in real life, but realistic nevertheless. So I watch and appreciate this series because it does give a representation of real life, and real life, though not always being pleasant, is what should be contemplated (among other things). That is why I am watching it, then. Pat, in Chicago
Lynda La P. Riveting. Each episode. Script/ concept, acting, production values..."they do not make them like this anymore..." Just found the series & hooked. SF/CA/USA
It is a relief to listen to actor Fox’s perfect diction of the English language as opposed to the annoying, horrible accent of most of the other characters.
They all drink and smoke too much! Women are too trusting and should never turn their backs on people they don't know well or put themselves in vulnerable positions. Trust your instincts and always know what you keep where in case you need a protective weapon. Defend yourself. Very exciting show and great acting. Mike's brother still got away with Pat's jewelry.
I don't believe Mike's & Pat's relationship was good or believable but this is a good series & this was a good episode. I'm not making excuses for Mike's personality of being self-centered, homophobic, chauvinistic etc. or the way he didn't care for Pat's feelings or Lynn's but it is true Mike was under tremendous pressure from career, his ex-wife, the kids, Pat & her rising career, his brother, his mom, financial, the loss of baby, pending divorce, pending marriage, losing his familiar home surroundings, new cohabitation with Pat, his drinking, his cigarettes, his past, the ex-wife's stalker psycho new boyfriend. He was pulled in every direction. Also how could Lynn be under the psychos abusive brainwashing after only a month? Also Pat didn't have much brains as a detective inspector where she didn't deck Mike's brother. Was Mike & Pat's house key also on the son's house keys to his Mom's house? The ending was really shocking, never saw that coming.
Vicki Noeske : I’m simply pointing out that our country isn’t called ‘England’. It should be easy for you to look up British self-defence laws on line.
England, that is why criminals feel cool, they know that a home owner can not defend their self in their own home. You get police asking people to report, document it, call the police, and when the police does come, it is a whole nother story. The worse one is the amount of time people even get for murder, it is ridiculous.
I do live in US. It is 2020. Idk what you are talking about! I see nothing in this episode or series that would merit a 'medal'. Who are you even refering to getting a promotion?
I feel so sorry for both of them, through no fault of their own, they stand to lose everything,he loses the commanders job and she,the man of her dreams,bloody typical
This is the darkest of all the episodes, with the sickest, most frightening characters--dare I say? The sickest and most frightening PEOPLE. Why would anyone want to be a policeperson?
The sad thing is that in real life, many law enforcement personals behave stupidly, they hardly report abuse, and they are mostly in terrible relationships. And in England, well, 90% of the cops don't carry weapons, and cops get done in, if someone is killed on their watch, we know this.
The weak point in this episode is in the character of Pat. It is believable that Lynn would be weak in a situation of aggression, but Pat is an experienced police officer. Surely she is capable of defending herself, rather than screaming 'Help, help' or are we led to believe that the police don't train their officers? Why should we pay them to defend the public if they can't even defend themselves? They must have some training in martial arts - or not? I'm sure that even a trained woman would be able to deal with a male with a broken bottle.
It looked to me when Eric went thru the glass table, he cut a main artery! All that psycho did was cause terror for everyone involved. He was going to kill somebody sooner then later! Mike & Pats relationship is as dysfunctional as it gets! Pat put up with so much from Mike, his family & because of his family & Mike is just thinking of his needs, no thought of what his ex wife’s boyfriend put her thru! She deserves so much better!
Now I can see why Michael didn’t want his wife on the stand, she would have given the court the facts, that he was emotionally involved enough to kill him.
No, she would have had to lie, because she loves him, but because Walker did murder Fowler in cold blood, she no longer respected Walker whom she loves. Also, as the upstanding professional officer of the law, Pat North had to terminate the relationship with Walker, although she loves him.
God almighty Walker is a total a****...arrogant, self centred and a bit if a bully.....he makes a lot of scenes really hard as he is so stressy...it is the killers that should make us anxious not the Imnvestigatin Officer....x
OMGoodness! Lynda LaPlant has quite an imagination! Amazingly, real life situations do have the irony demonstrated in this story ~ maybe Lynda LaPlant hangs around the criminal courthouse to get story plot ideas. As we are in the beginning of sorrows of the end of days, it is interesting to note that it is written in The Bible that brother against brother, etc., will occur in the end times.
Of course they don't need to get married... omg he just said i need you to be there for me and tell me everything is going to be ok... he's selfish jealous unemotionally not there for her... I mean jealous of her career....🧐😒 Dump him I'm sick of giving him chances..now giving his thousand from their joint account...🤯👀😳
Too many OTT psychos in this one and had the whodunnit bit worked out early in part 1...am only continuing to watch because am loving the snapshot of weegee family life...lol now THAT rings true..😂😂😂 are we a' like that??? Too Right we are...wha's like us???😁😂😂😂🤣
If I was ever in court and had to go into the witness box, I would NEVER lay a finger on that fairy tale book (bible). Nor would I promise anything to a god. They have to have a different oath promise.
The Bible actually says, "But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation (James 5:12, KJV)." Therefore, here in the USA we have the option to "affirm" to tell the truth with our right hand raised.
They should throw that rotten book out of every court. It's out of date, irrelevant and defendants will lie themselves stupid - whether or not they are religious. Swearing an oath on a bible is no proof they believe in any of it anyway. Preachers tried in court have lied after swearing on it. Even if they did believe in it, they know that all they have to do after telling lies is say sorry on Sunday, and then they're all 'reset' with instant 'forgiveness' from the precious sky-fairy that dwells in their imagination. To be honest, I would question the reliability of a jury that is made up of any religious people. They're plenty bound to be biased on the side of anyone who swears an oath on a bible - and against anyone who doesn't or has an alternative religion.
Another point - how come a police officer (Mike) who has never handled a gun, manages to not miss but hit bulls eye to kill in this situation. Bad luck? This episode just doesn't make sense. But as my husband says "It's fiction and don't question it" Perhaps he's right.
didn't he protect himself...dang you lock the cop up immediately over there...damn mum left him with these 2 men to raise her son...do you like sausages 😂😁
@@elainenorvell3335 Tube stabbings are bad. But people have survived those knife attacks.Whereas in each week in the US, about 450 people are killed by guns. And it is easier to protect yourself against a knife than a gun.
@@wesboudville There are two racial groups in the US that account for gun violence. Check out the US Dept of Justice. The FBI 10 Most Wanted will also give you the picture.
@@elainenorvell3335 Sure, but the more basic feature is the sheer availability of guns. Estimates are that in a nation of 330 million, there are over 200 million guns. If you live in the US, chances are there's a gun shop in your suburb. In UK, Canada, Aust., NZ there are an order of magnitude less guns per capita.. So criminals who delibrately want to use guns find it far harder to get them.
Love this series but this episode is just too ridiculous .....3 total nut cases all involved in the same story, same time, same main character...... sorry this was just too silly!
They don't make them like this anymore. The storylines are excellent as are the actors. Thanks very much for uploading
Great episode. Great acting. Pat shd have left ages ago
Chalk and cheese, Pat & Mike. They don't suit each other. All they have in common is the police force.
Amazing actors !
Michael and pat have to have the worst on sceen relationship i have ever seen. There always arguing and CONSTANTLY hostile towards each other ! Not believable at all ! it annoys me.
Mike & Pat, chalk and cheese! 😂
Well, I'm glad you have had a picture perfect relationship with your significant other. My marriage had its moments where we were arguing quite a bit. My husband was a controlling person and at times it was too overwhelming ~ we finally divorced. I missed him at first, but now I realize I'm better off without him, but lonely, as I don't believe in marriage after divorce. See Matthew 5:31-32, KJV.
@@Skylark_Jones ..well Pat and Mike was a really classic Hepburn-Tracey movie (1952 ) and it's bloody hilarious... when my mum and dad argued they would end up laughing and saying that they were just like Pat & Mike....dontcha geddit...the producers here are having their own wee private joke
Walker argues w everyone. Not pat's fault
And his ex-wife's character is so annoying.
Run, Pat, run as fast as you can.
Peggy Greeby She is hardly easy going herself
You can't catch me I'm the gingerbread man.Karen from Canada
Amen to that statement 👍👍
Thing is walker tries to be there for everyone his kids come first always and pat didn’t quite grasp that concept
Pat was treated the worst from the first moment on. These two should never be married.
Thanks for the series! Mike might have had his dream. Of being married to Pat if he gave her as much attention as he gave his own needs. When the exes nutter boyfriend targeted him it never occurred to him that he'd stolen keys from his kids. He says he'll do anything for Pat how about getting her damn jewellery back off Jimmy, he doesn't deserve commander position. Keep the great acting coming.. Slainte.
every time i watch a episode I tell myself this one is the best one. Then another comes on and I say the same thing. all i can say is that i live in the USA and Trial & Retribution is the best.
Really good episode of an excellent series. Cheers!
If there was ever a case for no internet dating....
Amazing to see a Redgrave versus a Fox, representing two of the greatest acting dynasties.
Okay, this one gave me a headache, could one more thing happen? Pat needs to run and run fast.
probably the best episode of the entire series. superb.
What a crazy episode. Pat and Mike are always fighting. His brother is also a nutcase😮😮😮😮
The extremely violent mad man ie intruder - (HELLO?) - *broke into Mike's flat* , threatened Pat with broken glass, the intruder then turned on Mike with the broken glass, Mike shot him in self-defence. Prior to that the mad man has been violent towards his ex-wife and kids, has been stalking & harassing them with menaces! He has been terrorising Mike and his loved ones. Why is *Mike* in trouble exactly?
Fowler had no powder burns on him and Mike Walker was not authorized to carry a gun and had threatened to kill Fowler.
He killed Fowler in self defense and got the gun from his brother. Simple.
But he attacked him with broken bottle and was extreme violent.
It was certanly not in cold blod.
More like he wasn't himself after all what that lunatic did.
30.45 dear god! Mike's whole family are a nightmare😨
@Kay Smith Fr😱
Best line in the show: ' Nothin happened in New Zealand, that's the whole point' - Jimmy
Lmao. Good one.
Was the reason he left his wife ever explained? Stupid woman. I was shouting in my mind’dont open that door’ when the Knowles guy was begging her to. ! Some women never learn. Useless!
That cop is like a bad luck coin. To be avoided at all costs.
What a family! Excellent stuff!
Lots of unlikable characters: much like real life sometimes.
all dim wits
yes, mike is a tiresome prick
Why u watching it then 😏
@@Alessiasbackheal Perhaps you misconstrued my comment. I was not suggesting that the show was unlikable, just some of the fictional characters portrayed. They did seem like real human beings, not always ones that I would like in real life, but realistic nevertheless. So I watch and appreciate this series because it does give a representation of real life, and real life, though not always being pleasant, is what should be contemplated (among other things). That is why I am watching it, then.
Pat, in Chicago
Lynda La P. Riveting. Each episode. Script/ concept, acting, production values..."they do not make them like this anymore..." Just found the series & hooked. SF/CA/USA
So you go off under a saw to search by yourself? Real cute... 🤦🏼♂️
@Gregory Cooper yeah that was really smart of her....smh...Lord have mercy 😱🤦♀️
It is a relief to listen to actor Fox’s perfect diction of the English language as opposed to the annoying, horrible accent of most of the other characters.
They all drink and smoke too much! Women are too trusting and should never turn their backs on people they don't know well or put themselves in vulnerable positions. Trust your instincts and always know what you keep where in case you need a protective weapon. Defend yourself. Very exciting show and great acting. Mike's brother still got away with Pat's jewelry.
I thought Fowler stole it
@@jahnsahn7695 No, when Jimmy was trying to pick his things up off the ground quickly, it'd had fallen out
@@vc23 right, Mike's brother was a real loser, but their mother was awful ~ she had no love, and as hard as nails.
Pat probably had a pretty good life before she met Mike
who watches shows where it is illegal to defend oneself!
I don't believe Mike's & Pat's relationship was good or believable but this is a good series & this was a good episode.
I'm not making excuses for Mike's personality of being self-centered, homophobic, chauvinistic etc. or the way he didn't care for Pat's feelings or Lynn's but it is true Mike was under tremendous pressure from career, his ex-wife, the kids, Pat & her rising career, his brother, his mom, financial, the loss of baby, pending divorce, pending marriage, losing his familiar home surroundings, new cohabitation with Pat, his drinking, his cigarettes, his past, the ex-wife's stalker psycho new boyfriend. He was pulled in every direction.
Also how could Lynn be under the psychos abusive brainwashing after only a month?
Also Pat didn't have much brains as a detective inspector where she didn't deck Mike's brother.
Was Mike & Pat's house key also on the son's house keys to his Mom's house?
The ending was really shocking, never saw that coming.
Can we all agree the gun saved lives yet they don’t want folk armed or able to protect loved ones
WTF - does England not have a self-defense plea?
Vicki Noeske : England has no such “plea.” England abides by the laws of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
@@sylviaroberts8103 Thank you for the info although I'm surprised to hear that the UK doesn't have the self-defense plea.
Vicki Noeske : I’m simply pointing out that our country isn’t called ‘England’. It should be easy for you to look up British self-defence laws on line.
England, that is why criminals feel cool, they know that a home owner can not defend their self in their own home. You get police asking people to report, document it, call the police, and when the police does come, it is a whole nother story. The worse one is the amount of time people even get for murder, it is ridiculous.
@@wb1644 Sad state of affairs.
Yay! She finally got rid of him!
If this would have happened in the United States in 2020 He would have gotten a promotion and a medal.
So true, lol.
I do live in US. It is 2020. Idk what you are talking about! I see nothing in this episode or series that would merit a 'medal'. Who are you even refering to getting a promotion?
Powerful ending...
I feel so sorry for both of them, through no fault of their own, they stand to lose everything,he loses the commanders job and she,the man of her dreams,bloody typical
through no fault of their own?????
Man of her dreams…. are you kidding me? He is an arrogant, self centered, male chauvinist a$$!
A character well played!
Not at all the man of her dreams...fantasy
This is the darkest of all the episodes, with the sickest, most frightening characters--dare I say? The sickest and most frightening PEOPLE. Why would anyone want to be a policeperson?
O🤬 his brother turned on him... didn't they bother to trace the gun...to see where it's been...
Yes a very good show, although I don't understand why their is no self defence, or are laws different their? 👍👍👍💜💚💙🤗
The sad thing is that in real life, many law enforcement personals behave stupidly, they hardly report abuse, and they are mostly in terrible relationships.
And in England, well, 90% of the cops don't carry weapons, and cops get done in, if someone is killed on their watch, we know this.
Great movie.
Manic-depressive episode... So many life lessons to learn from it.
Acting is brilliant
I remember watching this in 2002
Why I the world were the bullets in the gun not taken? Are they that incompetent?
The weak point in this episode is in the character of Pat. It is believable that Lynn would be weak in a situation of aggression, but Pat is an experienced police officer. Surely she is capable of defending herself, rather than screaming 'Help, help' or are we led to believe that the police don't train their officers? Why should we pay them to defend the public if they can't even defend themselves? They must have some training in martial arts - or not? I'm sure that even a trained woman would be able to deal with a male with a broken bottle.
It looked to me when Eric went thru the glass table, he cut a main artery! All that psycho did was cause terror for everyone involved. He was going to kill somebody sooner then later! Mike & Pats relationship is as dysfunctional as it gets! Pat put up with so much from Mike, his family & because of his family & Mike is just thinking of his needs, no thought of what his ex wife’s boyfriend put her thru! She deserves so much better!
Came for the mystery; stayed for the soap opera--and I'm beginning to be sorry.
Well piss off then
I really cannot warm to pat
She’s emotionless 😐
Enjoyed this but sometimes had me screaming. So, So stupid procedure wise. Polis are not this useless.
😱 how the hell could she have not locked the bathroom door...🤢 tell him to get the 🤬 out...why are the sickos always after her😮
Also Mike reminds me visually of Robin Williams.
I can see that.
Now I can see why Michael didn’t want his wife on the stand, she would have given the court the facts, that he was emotionally involved enough to kill him.
No, she would have had to lie, because she loves him, but because Walker did murder Fowler in cold blood, she no longer respected Walker whom she loves. Also, as the upstanding professional officer of the law, Pat North had to terminate the relationship with Walker, although she loves him.
Putting that unstable woman on stand would be probably the worst thing to do.
The more I see of Mike, the less I think he's stable.
This series is fun but not believable/plausible.
God almighty Walker is a total a****...arrogant, self centred and a bit if a bully.....he makes a lot of scenes really hard as he is so stressy...it is the killers that should make us anxious not the Imnvestigatin Officer....x
Can’t work out what exactly this storyline is about ❗️
Self defense of a high ranking police officer and he ends up n jail?
OMGoodness! Lynda LaPlant has quite an imagination! Amazingly, real life situations do have the irony demonstrated in this story ~ maybe Lynda LaPlant hangs around the criminal courthouse to get story plot ideas. As we are in the beginning of sorrows of the end of days, it is interesting to note that it is written in The Bible that brother against brother, etc., will occur in the end times.
It's always been 'brother against brother'. This is nothing new.. Not by a long-shot.
@@cynthiaadams2392 yes, you are correct: Cain and Able ~ the first murder, which was because of jealousy.
Preposterous.
Of course they don't need to get married... omg he just said i need you to be there for me and tell me everything is going to be ok... he's selfish jealous unemotionally not there for her... I mean jealous of her career....🧐😒 Dump him I'm sick of giving him chances..now giving his thousand from their joint account...🤯👀😳
Too many OTT psychos in this one and had the whodunnit bit worked out early in part 1...am only continuing to watch because am loving the snapshot of weegee family life...lol now THAT rings true..😂😂😂 are we a' like that??? Too Right we are...wha's like us???😁😂😂😂🤣
If I was ever in court and had to go into the witness box, I would NEVER lay a finger on that fairy tale book (bible). Nor would I promise anything to a god. They have to have a different oath promise.
The Bible actually says, "But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation (James 5:12, KJV)." Therefore, here in the USA we have the option to "affirm" to tell the truth with our right hand raised.
@@sheristewart3940 If you believe in fairy tales. That is what that book is. A book of fairy tales.
@@gollywog6695 You will find out.. One way or another!
They should throw that rotten book out of every court. It's out of date, irrelevant and defendants will lie themselves stupid - whether or not they are religious. Swearing an oath on a bible is no proof they believe in any of it anyway. Preachers tried in court have lied after swearing on it. Even if they did believe in it, they know that all they have to do after telling lies is say sorry on Sunday, and then they're all 'reset' with instant 'forgiveness' from the precious sky-fairy that dwells in their imagination.
To be honest, I would question the reliability of a jury that is made up of any religious people. They're plenty bound to be biased on the side of anyone who swears an oath on a bible - and against anyone who doesn't or has an alternative religion.
@@debbiehenri7170 Well said!
Another point - how come a police officer (Mike) who has never handled a gun, manages to not miss but hit bulls eye to kill in this situation. Bad luck? This episode just doesn't make sense. But as my husband says "It's fiction and don't question it" Perhaps he's right.
didn't he protect himself...dang you lock the cop up immediately over there...damn mum left him with these 2 men to raise her son...do you like sausages 😂😁
That's the truth!
This episode is where the US gun nuts get freaked out. UK has strict gun control.
UK has strict gun control. Yes. What about the tube stabbings. It's the right of citizens to protect themselves.
@@elainenorvell3335 Tube stabbings are bad. But people have survived those knife attacks.Whereas in each week in the US, about 450 people are killed by guns. And it is easier to protect yourself against a knife than a gun.
@@wesboudville There are two racial groups in the US that account for gun violence. Check out the US Dept of Justice. The FBI 10 Most Wanted will also give you the picture.
@@elainenorvell3335 Sure, but the more basic feature is the sheer availability of guns. Estimates are that in a nation of 330 million, there are over 200 million guns. If you live in the US, chances are there's a gun shop in your suburb. In UK, Canada,
Aust., NZ there are an order of magnitude less guns per capita.. So criminals who delibrately want to use guns find it far harder to get them.
Mike needs to hurry up..she needs to a weekend with a psychiatrist after all of this 🤬😱 and 😱 that wasn't a police gun...
SMALL. MAN...
Its very scarry omg
Sorry, this one is crap. Too many story lines, too poorly edited, acting still top notch but no focal point. Badly scripted.
Goodbye
stupid digging for gold yell I see something 😮
without TRUMP is noting on the news exiting
Mike is sooooo annoying is he on caffeine ? he is up and down like a yo yo ! great fun !
Shit.
Love this series but this episode is just too ridiculous .....3 total nut cases all involved in the same story, same time, same main character...... sorry this was just too silly!
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