Craftsman snow blower won't start
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Thanks for watching. It's not often you get a free snow blower but is it really a gift or just a huge headache? - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I would have put the carb in the ultrasonic, I’d probably try once more. But if the carb is as cheap as you see on line, definitely a new carb.
We haven’t ever had a call for a snow blower in S Fla. That’s one thing people leave behind when they move here!
Must be nice Jim S
Sometimes on Facebook Marketplace I'll see listings for snowblowers that are being sold just because the owner is moving to a state where it doesn't snow.
Wow, home garages first snowblower repair for TH-cam. I remember I asked a long time ago about snowblower repairs and you said you don’t get many. Great job. You spent a lot of time on cleaning that carburetor, I would have just bought a new one from the start. I’m from the midwest and work on snowblowers all the time so if you have any questions, feel free to reach out.
Yes I don't think most shops even bother to clean them when they look this bad, just replace it and go on.
@@HomeGaragechannel you can also ask me becuase I’m from Canada and do this all the time
Just tried my snowblower this morning & it wouldn't start. I also tried electric start & it turn on as long as I held the button. I'm from Chicago and we just had our 1st round of little snow!!
Jeff short has a good suggestion..i would try that you may not have to remove the carburetor..I'm so glad i live where we don't need snow blowers ..lol..
We have enough problems with people who can't operate lawnmowers .. see you on the next one..Cheers 🍻🍻🍻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thank you Rodney Brand
Oh my gosh I never seen you work on a snowblower before this is awesome
Me too. Happy to finally get one for the channel
Love the videos and really enjoy the investigation style approach to understanding what makes the different kinds of motors work.
thank you Dan Dudley
Two days ago a friend of mine just gave me the exact same snow blower, about 2 years old. Looks like right out of the box but was sitting for a year in her garage. I drove home test it and it wouldn't start, just like the snow blower in this video. This is an excellent, well done video and I want to congratulate Home Garage for putting this together, very helpful. Today I will work on it. If it doesn't work the first time I will give it a second try. I do all the maintenance and repairs on most of my fishing (not high ends ones) reels and sometimes revisiting the problem has saved a lot of money thru the years. Thank you again for producing this very well done video.
no problem, and good luck with it.
Great video I'm a retired machinist and a watchmaker,I would have cleaned it too the first time, after hearing the way it was running after the cleaning I would have also put a new one on. Now with that being said if I needed it to do its job during a snow storm and didn't have a spare on hand (which I always do). I would have drilled the main jet hole and any side holes by hand with a pin vise and a small drill bit just a little bit bigger than the existing factory hole. I've done this on non adjustable carburetor in the past and it has worked well for me, I normally buy replacement carbs that are adjustable. Liked the video and look forward to seeing more from you.
thank you Ken Smith, I appreciate your time.
been a bit since i mentioned it but the old huskee tractor you asked for an update on once i worked on it happened. it being just about spring i finally got to start working . fixed some electrical problems and many other small things. rebuilt carb and took the tins off the engine. various other things but soon ill try to start it up!
hopefully it starts up for you. Thanks for the update I appreciate it.
Nice job! I bought this exact model on facebook marketplace tonight and was looking for videos on it. Mine looks almost new but won't start. I am suspecting carb but I got home with it late so I will tear into it tomorrow.
My only recommendation is on carburetor cleaning. I bought a cheap ultrasonic cleaner at harbor freight a few years ago. It works great on these small engine carburetors . . . makes it a super easy job to clean them.
I'll have to get one of those.
Great video 👍🏻. Drained 3 year old gas out of my friends and cleaned the carb. Thing actually runs now but surges just like this one. Comment section has saved the day tho. I’ll definitely be checking that idle jet tomorrow
Yes it was the idle jet for me too, cleaned it and it runs great now. Thank you Marty Rehfeld
I almost always just replaced the carburetors.. unless it's discontinued.. I live in Wisconsin and we don't have enough time to work on everything that comes in chainsaws. Blowers . mowers..trimmers etc..
That makes total sense to me
I would of bought a new carb. That one was really bad and good on you for giving it a try to clean it up.
thank you William Snow
Good day Boy this video should come in handy, I just found one like this. Thanks happy new yr.
Happy new year!
Sooo wish we got snow in the UK 🇬🇧. We get so little.. I'm working on the Mowers already.. and they are starting to sell.. hope all is good mate
Yes Mick. Things are great here. Thanks for the comment I appreciate it
That is little snowblowers are really handy especially if you don't live in an area where you get hammered all winter. The only weak part that I found was the handle. When you would push forward and get stuck when you put a little bit of effort on the handle it would fold on itself. The first enter that I had is was the winter from hell where we were getting blizzards every other week and it even started in December that year.
Sorry to keep up with that amount of snow with this little blower we were constantly going out there keeping sidewalk and walkways and our driveways clear. So we really test the limits of the machines.
With a handle folding over on itself the only thing I could do at that time was to drill a second hole on each side of the handle right below that plastic wing nut. That did the trick no more folding handle. After the winter from hell was over I did a more permanent fix. I took my MIG welder and welded the top part and bottomed part of the bar together. I didn't need the option of folding the bar in half for storage so it didn't matter to me that now it's one piece.
As always I enjoyed watching your video. As far as the carburetor I would always try again until it's just unreasonable to keep on messing around with it. When I do mine I have a little different method. At first it goes into the parts cleaner and gets a good scrubbing. After that I have these plastic bowl type of pan that is made for changing oil and I get those at the Dollar tree and I always pick up a couple. So I always take my carburetors apart in that pan with a blue Scott's paper towel at the bottom. The one thing I do that I don't see you doing is to use my air compressor to blow out every single hole on the carburetor and then take everything completely apart and if something's really bad I put it in my carburetor dip solution and come back to it later to finish up. I usually got a pretty good track record with this method. Most of the time when I need to buy a new carburetor it's because of something physically is broken and it's not worth trying to fix it.
I look forward to watching the next video and as always I made sure to give you a thumbs up.
thank you David Frank. Yes where I live, we don't get a lot of snow, so when it does snow, it throws a wrench in everyday stuff.
Btw I thought it was yet one more Toro sponsored video on their snow blowers on TH-cam lol
Lol.. thanks not this time
We have this same snow blower and it had the same issue with the same problem! Fortunately a friend that worked with engines was able to fix it.
That's good to know.
Do you know what the fix was? Mine still does this, even after a carb change.
Nice video. A pleasure to watch. I'd try to soak the carb first because I don't have an ultrasonic cleaner. If that didn't work, I'd buy one.
Okay that's a decent solution.
@@HomeGaragechannel YOU COULD HAVE MADE YOUR OWN ULTRASONIC CLEANER... AN EMPTY, CLEANED JAR WITH LID, AND A VIBRATING SANDER.. I HAVE TRIED IT , AND IT WORKED ...
@@jab0609 nice, I'll have to try that out. Thanks for the comment.
Hey tip of the day, try to find a cheap ultrasonic, what a godsend! Great video as always !
Do you have one? Which model do you have? I've been trying to figure out which one to get.
@@HomeGaragechannel it's a no name 3 liter from ebay, paid like 60 dollars, works good, the trick if you buy one of this larger ones is to place your parts in Tupperware with cleaning fluid then into the cleaner filled partially with distilled water, ya only have to clean the Tupperware and not the whole unit! Ha ha
@@HomeGaragechannel it's the Chinese ones with digital hear and timer and made of stainless
thats a great tip thank you.
okay I'll take a look.
That is just a plugged idle circuit, Drill it out a couple of thousands and it will run fine. I have done hundreds of these on blowers, lawn mowers, tillers, etc. Great try, but open up the idle circuit. usually on top of the carb, remove the idle screw and pop up the idle jet. If you want to send it to me I will put it in my ultra sonic cleaner and fix the idle circuit.Thanks
That's not a bad idea.
I agree. At least start with an ultrasonic cleaning.
@@apatterson8128 do you use one? If so which brand do you have?
That's a good question, I need to get one of those so badly but I wouldn't know what brand name to go with or where to order one from LOL
@@dwaynecollins4974 thanks, when looking online I see several different sizes and I just don't know which one to get
I cant imagine buying a machine, not using it much and throwing it away 7 years later over a carb job. Wish they took it to a small engine shop.
My single stage is 7 years old, only gets the freshest of non ethanol fuels in December and is drained sometime in March. Had the bowl off a while back and the inside still looked brand new.
I know right!
If I already went through it and cleaned it once and it was still doing that I would just replace the carburetor, especially if I could get one for less than twenty bucks. The last time I got one from my locals lawn mower shop it was still close to 50 bucks and that was for the Chinese knockoff
I agree with you. I'm getting pretty lazy nowadays but at least I gave it a try.
Great vid. Love the channel. I’d buy a new carb the first time! That thing was beat up. Design engineers should work with techs before building these things WAY too many connections before you could get to that carb. 😂
thank you Phil Del Giudice for the comment I appreciate it.
Yeah I wouldn't put all that plastic and shields back on w/o testing carb first.
There is a idle ,low speed jet under the throttle stop screw , its plastic. It can be removed bu unscrewing the throttle stop and prying it out. Give that a clean and spray carby cleaner down the passage. there is also a small hole on face of the carby air cleaner side which leads to that low speed passage that should be cleaned. If that fails then a new carby. :)
Excellent description of a solution. Thank you for the information.
You clearly didn’t remove and clean the pilot jet under the idle screw. That’s why it’s hunting. The carby is fine. 🇦🇺
You are completely right
Bingo!
I would look for a new carb. However I would try to find OEM. I replaced the belt and paddles on my TORO two years ago. I bought the cheapest I could find. The belt was deteriorating and the paddles weren’t much better. They were a waste of time AND my snowblower didn’t work when I needed it.
That's good to know thanks
Got a free snowblower spend the 20 bucks ! Hey Saturday you should join Micks live I think you would enjoy it !
What time does he go live?
@@HomeGaragechannel 1pm eastern
I know you cleaned the main jet, but I didn't see you clean the pilot/ idle jet. That's why it won't run without choke. Completely remove the idle screw and you'll notice a black plastic cap. Pull it up and that's your pilot jet.
Edit: Taryl demonstrates this in his surging video: th-cam.com/video/iuCU243O6yM/w-d-xo.html Now there's yer dinner!
thank you for the tip I appreciate it.
Good job , I would have cleaned the carburetor first like you did before buying one . I like seeing if the cleaning pays off , thanks for you trouble of educational video for all. (I'd probably be a little vigorously cleaning it again ) because I'm not one for giving up - then if it doesn't work - go with a new carburetor . 👍😁
Thank you Marshall Border, if I couldn't afford or find another carb I would definitely try cleaning it again but since these carbs are still affordable and plentiful I went with getting a new carb instead.
Home Garage 👍 Totally understand , keep those good video's a coming . One never gets too old too learn new things .
@@marshallborder9089 I totally agree with you
I would thoroughly clean it the 1st time (I have high success rate on carburetor cleaning), unless the carb is totally trashed by old fuel and time.
thank you Mike Spain. The follow up video to this one is very telling.
First cool keep up the good work 👍☺️
Thank you sir. Good to see you around. When's the next fishing video coming out?
Given how much stuff you have to take off to get to the carburettor, iand you had cleaned the carb once, i would repace the carb for a new one, and make sure the snow blower is run out of gas when its no longer goint to be used, Tarrel had a old Toro 2 stroke snow blower, which had not been run in 8 years, but the snowblower was run untill it ran out of gas, put fresh fuel in and it started 1st pull, after 8 years .
absolutely, I've got the carb and I'll film it soon.
My grandma has the exact same one in fact I have the same of everything pretty much LOL 🤣
Nice
Nice video
Thank you
How about the jet located under the head of the idle control screw?
Yes i didn't clean it because I was gearing the video towards saving time by replacing the carb
@@HomeGaragechannel @donyboy73
I think had the same blower recently and did the same thing. He drilled out the idle speed jet and that fixed it.
@@dfields9511 I might give it a try when I try and replace the carb
@@HomeGaragechannel I think it might be between 13 and 20 thousands and would need a micro drill bit.
@@dfields9511 gotcha
Save the carb by enlarging the hole in the small jet before the emulsion tube. Saves both time (waiting on new parts) and money.
Thank you Hal Campbell.
I would try a torch tip file to clean the main jet, maybe make it a tad bit bigger. At least that's my plan on the one I'm working on.
you are correct, I have thought about making it just a bit larger so that it's likely to not clog in the future.
I would buy myself am ultrasonic cleaner to Clean the carburetor if I find myself repairing a lot of them which are like that !
Yes it's in the works but does the ultrasonic work on hard varnish?
To bad.you don't have a ultrasonic.cleaner you are right.it is better to get a new carb for this snow blower 👍😎
What brand do you have?
I noticed that the float wasn’t parallel, so it probably needs a needle and seat. As many carbs as you clean, I would recommend for you to break down and buy an ultrasonic cleaner. I bought mine at HF pre-Covid for about $70. I use a mix of water and Purple Power which is available at Wally World for around $4 / gallon. I have had it remove paint.
you are correct the float was not parallel. Definitely need to be that fixed
I'd do exactly what you did because I don't have an ultrasonic cleaner. Also as someone else mentioned, did you clean the idle jet and passage? Thanks, great vid as always!
I did but not very well. I was already leaning toward a new carb.
I would definitely replace the carb, and initially, when it looked so bad, I would have replaced it immediately. This was extra interesting to me. My backup unit is a 2002 MTD single stage, with a Tecumseh 4 cycle 5 HP engine. An awful lot of the details of the machine, excluding the engine, looked like they were made from the same stampings as my 2002 model - the shape of the side panels, the attachment points for the top plastic cover, the shape of the handle and the augur, etc. I would say that's a good thing, since there are more likely to be spare parts available when it covers a lot of years of production. 2 things I would do when the engine is exposed (way more involved on this one than on my 2002 model) - run it and adjust the carb mixture, if the mixture screw would be hard to get to when the covers are on, and remove & lube the starter motor. On mine, I have had to remove it a few times over the years, when the engagement gear would not ride up the shaft and catch the flywheel teeth. You would hate to have put the covers back on and then try the electric starter, and just hear the motor spin, because the gear did not shoot up to catch the flywheel teeth. This was a well presented video.
thank you Tom Lewis, I appreciate your comment.
Should I put stabilizer in my snowblower till next winter or drain the gas? Great video! Subbed. 👍
I would drain it out. thanks for the sub
Just tried my snowblower this morning & it wouldn't start. I also tried electric start & it turn on as long as I held the button. I'm from Chicago and we just had our 1st round of little snow!!
if you can get to the intake for the carb, try spraying some staring fluid into it, and then try starting it. Doing this a couple of times might clear the clog into carb so it can stay running.
Buy a new one your videos are great as usual
thank you !
When carbies get gummed up with varnish from stale fuel, they are a pain to clean. I usually replace the carby.
yes that's always the best choice.
I have a 2 cycle Toro that's a bit larger. Your machine seen overly complex with all the plastic housing and levers and knobs compared to mine, which just has a start key and a choke lever. Great video tho.
Thank you Charlie Johnson
I’ve had my snowblower surging like that after accidentally leaving ethanol fuel in it over the summer and requiring lots of carb cleaner to start. It honestly just resolved it self after running for a while. Sometimes you are in a rush and just need to move snow… Gasoline is a solvent I suppose.
you got that right.
Recommending buy ultrasonic cleaner. I see lot of carbs that look clean but engine still need choke or continous priming to run , but after "ultrasonic bath" they work perfectly. And most of very dirty carbs like this works too after long hot "ultrasonic bath"
I would the only problem is that most people won't buy one, as it's an expensive proposition for someone who doesn't normally do repairs. although I have been thing about it for some time now.
These machines were built by MTD, they were also sold under the Yardmachines brand with a slightly different plastic cover. Very irritating design to get the carb off the machine with all that plastic in the way. Regardless a very good and well made machine for what it is.
They also made 2 Cycle models.
The engines are Honda clones which use that same huayi carburetor that is very prone to idle circuit blockage. EVERY single machine like this that I come across has had that exact same surging issue. I did not see you clean the idle jet or spray carb cleaner through the idle circuit in the video, so that is surely why it would not idle correctly. If The ultrasonic cleaner is the only way to bring the carb back if a manual cleaning fails.
If after a good blast in the ultrasonic cleaner does not bring back the idle circuit, you can drill out the idle jet slightly using a micro drill set.
Do not buy the cheap aftermarket carbs especially to replace these huayi/ruixing carburetors. The already poor design with weak idle circuit is even worse in the aftermarket carb, some times they do not even work brand new out of the box.
yes I didn't clean the Idle circuit which is probably the problem. I will consider clearing when I try to replace the carb in the next video. Thanks for the comment I appreciate it.
New carb would be my next move..
Already arrived just waiting to film it.
I’d fill it full of sea foam and let it sit for a few days after a good run in, before buying a new carb
Interesting you're the first person to suggest that. Thanks for the comment I appreciate it
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Hate those engines have to take so much apart just to get to the carb
I know. I'm happy to have the blower but working on it is tough.
Awesome... Can you run the machine with the choke in the middle if the blower does not run correct when fully open?
yes you can, it will just use more gas, but it will still work just fine.
Good job, try a new carburetor if its some one snow blower , we can make ours work somehow,
thank you for the comment. I did get a new carb to install but I tried to clean it one more time and surprisingly it works now.
I'd probably let it run a while choked and see how it did before I took the carb back off again. If it still wouldn't straighten out after the 2nd time I'd order one. The opposed twin Vanguard on my Craftsman had a lean jetted carb and the starting instructions were to start it wide open and keep it running with the choke and continue running it after it got warmed up that way. NOPE! I ordered an adjustable jetted carb off Ebay just so I can start it on idle. It was off a marine application but works just fine. No hard starts for me. Too many diesels in my life for that. Thanks and Blessings!
nice! haven't had the pleasure of working on diesels.
@@HomeGaragechannel They were simple but not now. Spent my whole life driving trucks and running equipment. All the stuff I tell you is real life experience.
I can believe that. Thank you again Lewie McNeely.
@@HomeGaragechannel I'm too stupid to make it up.
lol!
How do you get a locking bolt and bell washer off from wheel on Craftsman 22" snowthrower? Have used penatrating oil and bolt still won't release.
HEAT
Did you clean the idlr jet? (The black screw on top}.
If I didn't in this video, I did in a later one.
Considering how the carb looked when you took off the bowl, I would have just bought a new one right then and there.
Ethanol corrosion is nasty stuff, that carb is most likely shot or at least uneconomical to repair.
I know, I would have done the same too, just wanted to give it a chance
New carb sounds like a plan! An ultrasonic cleaner probably would have solved the problem in less time.
I think you're right.
Here's a idea. to clean the emulsion tube holes, (and not everyone will have this just lying around) the small holes you can use guitar strings. I also use guitar strings to clean out my sprayers on my water mister.
that's true, I don't have any guitar string .
@@HomeGaragechannel I have some old ones lying around. If you need any, let me know and I'll send them to you. Free of charge of course.
I'll let you know
Oh yeah- tip #2: an ultrasonic cleaner will make easy work of a crusty carburetor like that.
Would have worked on the crusty varnish that was on the carb? I had to scrape that stuff off.
@@HomeGaragechannel it would take the majority of it off. I've heard Dawn dish soap works well most of the time, and if you need a more powerful solvent like acetone or toluene that the cleaner can't handle, you can fill a glass jar with the solvent, fill the tub with water, and then place the jar into the water.
@@EngDrewman thank you for the information I'll have to look into getting one now.
An ultrasonic cleaner would have made easy work on that carb
Do you use one? What brand do you use?
Only taking in consideration the technical part of the repair I would buy a new carburetor.
Now would I personally consider a blower of that size (to small and no gearbox) And furthermore trying to repair it? No I would not!
The reason for that is my location (Northern Sweden) we get a lot of snow usually over a meter of snow and that tiny blower could not even make it's way out of the garage.
nice, yes that makes sense.
Hi! Is it a float solution?
I think it's more of a needle clearance issue but since it was so vanished so my choice is new carb.
Next we will roll the unit off a ten story building into a industrial dumpster.
I have a 123cc craftsman that appears to have no linkage attached to choke fins. When moving choke lever, there appears to be no linkage moving. Is there linkage that may have disconnected? Thanks, rg
yes, there should be a linkage there. You might want to look up the parts diagram for your model and see if you a still get the part you need.
Like you said buy another carburetor
Yes easy job then
My toro 621e does the same sometime. I lose the gas cap and it work good. Don’t know why.
the vent in the cap is bad, just replace or just keep the cap loose.
@@HomeGaragechannel Thx. I will try to get a new one this winter.
What would you recommend on a craftsman leaf blower that has compression spark an you squirt carb cleaner in the spark plug hole an still won't start?
first I would like to know a compression number on and if its over 100 psi, then I would think theres an air leak in a seal on the engine.
The compression its 110 i done it 3 times. The only other thing I can think is the spark looked a little weak at times with my tester it got me throwed for a loop
if it was me then I would try replacing the spark plug. after that I would pressure test the engine. I have only had this happen to me once and it was a pain to start till I found the leak.
Thank you very much for the info. I really enjoy your channel great content. Thanks agian
@@arthurwilliams1922 no problem
Snow blowers are a pain to start after 9 months of sitting I have a bigger craftsman snowblower and it smokes and is really annoying to start in the winter
you got that right
No if the carbrator thats on it would b best to just replace it with a new 1
I believe changing it would be the better option for most people. Just simpler.
Man that was one nasty carb. I wouldn't of cleaned it the first time as dirty as it was I would of just replaced it I normally find when they are that bad you have to end up replacing them to get the engine to run right
Yes I wanted to give it a try.
Try and larging the main jet or use your micro drill enlarge the whole
thank you Sam Varc.
I hate fixing snowblowers because of this reason you have to take apart the whole thing
Yes its quite frustrating
@@HomeGaragechannel I've only fixed one engine in my life and it was a poulan pro weed eater but I know it's a pain in the butt to take those apart
Buy replacement, rather spend $20 than an hour or two working on it.
Thank you Mr Merhtin
Carb kleen is to be used for emergencys only
Thanks for the tip
No problem
You should invest in an ultrasonic cleaner
yes I should. Do you have a suggestion for one?
Just see what options are on Amazon. They sell big ones and small ones it just depends on what you think would work best for you
@@dantestellato7300 okay I will, thank you Dante Stellato
Np buddy always willing to help out a fellow small engine mechanic
When i come across a carb that bad i don't even bother trying to clean it i just replace it.
makes complete sense
You didn’t clean the top jet. That why it hunts and surges. I’d just replace the carb it’s easier. Maybe $20.00 on Amazon.
you're absolutely right!
That would have been new carb time as soon as i saw the float bowl.
agreed
still got that snowblower??? i could use a nice one
Lol yep but this ones going to be mine.
@@HomeGaragechannel i call dibs on the next snowblower you get let me know if you get a 2 stage something not to old
@@snoopysrc absolutely
hey, why is it that every single honda clone out there uses 10mm bolts and not any other size?
not sure, but If I had to guess, it's in the middle of "fastening" strength, 8mm is enough and 12 mm, is too much, so 10mm it is.
that carb is a nightmare to clean.
it's not fun at all.
buy the new carb,save the hassle.
thank you David Anderson.
I would just buy a new Carburator
Yes very simple solution
@@HomeGaragechannel yes and in most cases when i rebuild carburetors i simply do not bother with them as they are very cheap to replace now days etc.
@@Patrick4959 absolutely. That was actually the whole point to this video. To show how much effort I put in only to forget about the idle jet and it unfortunately didn't work. It's just easier to replace the carb.
replace the carburetor first thing do not clean it
Very good choice
Buy another carb my friend
That's the plan!
Buy a new carb and done
you are completely right about that
Buy a carb!
Yep my thoughts exactly
buy a new one. Its not worth the hassle to continue to clean.
thank you David Anderson.
Buy a new carb
Yep my thoughts exactly
It’s. Never buy a craftsman. They are crap.
they have definitely changed in the last couple of years