I love those Sinister Six issues. Have youse seen the Klaus Janson Electro story that preceded this one? I think that was the first time I saw Janson's art as a kid and I was blown away. It was so weird in such a good way.
I Have that Spiderman Issue Also the Wildcats Trilogy also by Jae Jae Lee’s Best Works are the Dark Tower I think Jae Lee was Influenced by Bill Sienkewicz
@@nickjanecke6688 I wanted to buy his sketchbook and when his Square Point of Sale wasn’t getting enough signal, he offered to give it to me for free. Such a nice guy!
That might be the date of the reprint or one of the collections, because that was part of the original Marvel Knights launch. Inhumans came out in late 1998. Sooo good. My definitive version of those characters.
i still own issue 42 of this comics my young mind didn't understand why i loved so much such weird faces and untidy rendering i coudnt even copy it in my sketch books properly , but i loved it so much , i still think this is his best comics in the 90s
Jae Lee always wanted to do Batman- it was his favourite character and hes perfect for it. Its a shame he never got his chance with a definitive run or take on the character.
There was a 6 issue miniseries Lee collaborated with Paul Jenkins on Batman and Two Face 10+ years ago called Jekyll and Hyde. Jae did 3 issues and Sean Phillips did the other 3. It's worth checking out.
@@jeremydawe341 I just read that one a couple weeks back. I thought Jae's visual storytelling was confusing at parts. I also felt the more realistic faces made a lot of the characters feel stiff and emotionless. I much prefer seeing this older style, where the storytelling is super clear at all times, while the compositions stay interesting and energetic.
Iron Fist started off strong, but tapered off quickly. There are an impressive number of characters that were created in the 70's at Marvel that were designed by Gil Kane (usually in tandem with Roy Thomas): Warlock, Iron Fist, Morbius, Gullivar Jones, and some others I can't recall. But he was a great action artist, and even though he only drew the first story, his covers made the character his for a long time. I think Hama takes over the story art almost immediately, eventually succeeded by the Claremont/Byrne team right before they went into X-Men. I think there are a couple of good videos possible here.
You have gotta review Jae's Namor run! FYI, this was meant to be the prologue to a new Iron Fist series pencilled by Jae but got cancelled when he was poached to Image.
My older brother and I bonded over comics. We bridged the gap between our ages with our shared love of the Marvel Universe. That said, he was 6 years older, and his tastes would deviate more often than my own from the 616. His taste in writing and artists spoke to the difference between our ages in subtle ways, but the Venn diagram of our interest overlapped enough for us to share copies of most titles. He would turn me onto things I’d never gravitate towards on the spinners of the local drug store or on the stands of the single comic shop into our rural town in Louisiana. In junior high or middle school…I refuse to Google the details…I believe Marvel launched a Namor title helmed by John Byrne. Byrne’s work on the X-Men, Fantastic Four, his brief run on Captain America, his substantial early runs on Marvel Team-Up and Iron Fist….the man was he Marvel to me at the time. If Kirby defined Marvel in the 60’s, and the Buscema brothers were the 70s, Byrne set the standard for the Marvel in the 80s. But toward the latter part of that decade the Image boys, informed by Byrne himself, but fusing his clarity of line with the superficial fills and ornamentation of Michael Golden and Art Adams, broke up the notion of a house style briefly. By the time they locked arms and left Marvel, the House of Idea’s felt like it had it’s most interesting bits of furniture. I swear this was all going somewhere. Oh yeah… At the time Jae Lee came to my attention, it was because he assumed the art chores of John Byrne’s Namor that my much hipper older brother book adored. At the time I distinctly recall those books looking like second rate Simon Bisley or Bill Sienkiewicz. Jae’s work would pop on my radar every five years or so from the time he began working and a lot changes in your life every five years at that age. He started when I was in middle school. These Spider-man books were likely 93? 94? My last few years in high school. The third time he’d hit my radar was Youngblood Strikefile. The fourth was his relaunch of the Inhumans on Joe Quesada’s Marvel Knights line. Each time he progressed by leaps and bounds, until eventually I couldn’t dismiss the guy anymore. These issues of adjective-less Spider-man book fall into a small blind spot in my awareness of comics. After Namor I do recall Youngblood Strikefile, and noting his work had matured significantly. But for some reason at the time where we lived in rural Louisiana those Strikefile books were scarce, expensive…or both. Hard to imagine now as often as I see them in discount bins, but I just couldn’t get my hands on them. As I said, I wouldn’t see Jae’s work again until I was in college, when he was on the Inhumans relaunch for Marvel Knights. By then I wasn’t dependent on my parents to subsidize my interest in comics, and the market was very different than it was when I was in high school. Relatively new books in the speculator boom that fetched absurd sums at our local shop and swap meets were suddenly floating down to earth, available for cover price, or if you were patient…they began to elbow out all of the old ROM Spacenight issuess in the quarter bins. During the latter years of the decade when the hobby was in shambles, I was able to go back and retroactively pick up a lot of the titles I’d missed during my junior and senior years of high school, when money was lean, and my attention shifted toward different mediums. In 1993 and 1994, around the time I’m guessing these issues were published, movies and video games no longer competed for my attention and money but demanded it, and monopolized it. And for good reason. These were communal experiences that I could share with my friends. For the price of two comics off the stands I could rent Richard Linklater’s Dazed and Confused and invite a room full of friends over to laugh at this little loveletter to the year many of us where born. Marvel couldn’t compete. Jae Lee is an artist who was always just a bit ahead of me, and we’ve been playing catch up ever since. Watching his work evolve over the years has been a pleasure and a feast for the eyes. Back then, I just couldn’t see it.
I don't think Jae quite found his style yet. You can see elements of Tim Sale and Sam Keith in this. I loved when he did the second part of Hellshock. That is when you see him owning his style. That book was really cool to me when it came out, art wise
Jae lee is an example of a constantly evolving artist. From crazy extremely dark art, to renaissance stylized art that makes every piece of work that he makes a true work of art. Especially with some of his dc stuff.
was it well received when he start ? Cause in France when his Namor was published, the usual comics reader didn't like it so much and complain about his style as I remember. personnalyas a 10 years old kid, i was prettty interested cause it was different from all the other stuff but the olders readers dont receive it so well as i remember
Wow! I really loved these comics when they came out. Never thought anybody would remember them.
Welcome to Cartoonist Kayfabe.
When Jae Lee gets in a big enough hurry it starts to take on an almost Sienkiewicz level of chaos.
Mark texeria was doing wolverine around the same time and the only other artist I could remember doing anything similar with heavy blacks like Jan Lee
I think I still have some of those old Tex wolverines hanging around in the long boxes. His covers on some of those issues were so good.
I remember Jae Lee's art in X-cutioner's song.
I love those Sinister Six issues. Have youse seen the Klaus Janson Electro story that preceded this one? I think that was the first time I saw Janson's art as a kid and I was blown away. It was so weird in such a good way.
I Have that Spiderman Issue
Also the Wildcats Trilogy also by Jae
Jae Lee’s Best Works are the Dark Tower
I think Jae Lee was Influenced by Bill Sienkewicz
HAPPY BIRTHDAY JIM! :)
Damn I remember going to Duncan's as a kid in 90s & peepin the artwork near the doors too! 😀 412!
Jae Lee’s amazing art is maybe only rivalled by how nice of a guy he is to meet.
I just met him for the third time at ECCC this past December, it was great, he even gave me a free print.
@@nickjanecke6688 I wanted to buy his sketchbook and when his Square Point of Sale wasn’t getting enough signal, he offered to give it to me for free. Such a nice guy!
Yes, you absolutely should cover Larson's Spider man run. Those are the comics that put Larson on my radar as a kid, love that sinister six story.
he was one of the ones who went to image and fell thru the cracks. trying to remember his book. "hellshock" or "bloodshock"
42-43 were the very first comic books I ever owned. My parents got them for me for Christmas.
Loc’s, Jae Lee and self driving bikes!!!! 90’s goodness
I wanna see a Jae Lee + Bisley + Sam Keith arm drawing comparison.
Jae Lee is my favorite artist, so I’m always happy when you guys give him a shout-out like this.
Beautiful Jae Lee work. I have a few issues of his NAMOR that are stunning.
Jae Lee's INHUMANS miniseries with writer Paul Jenkins came out in 2013. Also really unique stuff...
That might be the date of the reprint or one of the collections, because that was part of the original Marvel Knights launch. Inhumans came out in late 1998. Sooo good. My definitive version of those characters.
i still own issue 42 of this comics
my young mind didn't understand why i loved so much
such weird faces and untidy rendering i coudnt even copy it
in my sketch books properly , but i loved it so much , i still think this is his best comics in the 90s
picked these up last year with the expectation that you guys would review it
Jae Lee went from Sienkiewicz meets Liefeld in the first issue, to Tony Harris meets McFarlane by the end. Truly a survey of 90s artistry
Can we get Iron Fist on that bike photoshopped onto the cover of a certain Prince album? “Purple Rand”
I'd love to see an episode on Jae Lee's Transformers/GI Joe crossover.
The best transformers/gi Joe crossover- somehow he makes WW2 Decepticons the scariest thing ever... And a deadly Snake Eyes with Gunslinger flair!
I could really see the sienkievicz influence in the covers
I've always thought that Sienkiewicz was Neal Adams on a great acid trip and Jae Lee was Bill Sienkiewicz on a bad acid trip! Love all three of them!!
Jae Lee always wanted to do Batman- it was his favourite character and hes perfect for it. Its a shame he never got his chance with a definitive run or take on the character.
There was a 6 issue miniseries Lee collaborated with Paul Jenkins on Batman and Two Face 10+ years ago called Jekyll and Hyde. Jae did 3 issues and Sean Phillips did the other 3. It's worth checking out.
@@jeremydawe341 I just read that one a couple weeks back. I thought Jae's visual storytelling was confusing at parts. I also felt the more realistic faces made a lot of the characters feel stiff and emotionless. I much prefer seeing this older style, where the storytelling is super clear at all times, while the compositions stay interesting and energetic.
Jae Lee is boss mode. I found him with Hellshock.
Iron Fist started off strong, but tapered off quickly. There are an impressive number of characters that were created in the 70's at Marvel that were designed by Gil Kane (usually in tandem with Roy Thomas): Warlock, Iron Fist, Morbius, Gullivar Jones, and some others I can't recall. But he was a great action artist, and even though he only drew the first story, his covers made the character his for a long time. I think Hama takes over the story art almost immediately, eventually succeeded by the Claremont/Byrne team right before they went into X-Men. I think there are a couple of good videos possible here.
You have gotta review Jae's Namor run!
FYI, this was meant to be the prologue to a new Iron Fist series pencilled by Jae but got cancelled when he was poached to Image.
My older brother and I bonded over comics. We bridged the gap between our ages with our shared love of the Marvel Universe. That said, he was 6 years older, and his tastes would deviate more often than my own from the 616. His taste in writing and artists spoke to the difference between our ages in subtle ways, but the Venn diagram of our interest overlapped enough for us to share copies of most titles. He would turn me onto things I’d never gravitate towards on the spinners of the local drug store or on the stands of the single comic shop into our rural town in Louisiana.
In junior high or middle school…I refuse to Google the details…I believe Marvel launched a Namor title helmed by John Byrne. Byrne’s work on the X-Men, Fantastic Four, his brief run on Captain America, his substantial early runs on Marvel Team-Up and Iron Fist….the man was he Marvel to me at the time. If Kirby defined Marvel in the 60’s, and the Buscema brothers were the 70s, Byrne set the standard for the Marvel in the 80s. But toward the latter part of that decade the Image boys, informed by Byrne himself, but fusing his clarity of line with the superficial fills and ornamentation of Michael Golden and Art Adams, broke up the notion of a house style briefly.
By the time they locked arms and left Marvel, the House of Idea’s felt like it had it’s most interesting bits of furniture.
I swear this was all going somewhere. Oh yeah…
At the time Jae Lee came to my attention, it was because he assumed the art chores of John Byrne’s Namor that my much hipper older brother book adored. At the time I distinctly recall those books looking like second rate Simon Bisley or Bill Sienkiewicz.
Jae’s work would pop on my radar every five years or so from the time he began working and a lot changes in your life every five years at that age.
He started when I was in middle school. These Spider-man books were likely 93? 94? My last few years in high school. The third time he’d hit my radar was Youngblood Strikefile. The fourth was his relaunch of the Inhumans on Joe Quesada’s Marvel Knights line. Each time he progressed by leaps and bounds, until eventually I couldn’t dismiss the guy anymore.
These issues of adjective-less Spider-man book fall into a small blind spot in my awareness of comics. After Namor I do recall Youngblood Strikefile, and noting his work had matured significantly. But for some reason at the time where we lived in rural Louisiana those Strikefile books were scarce, expensive…or both. Hard to imagine now as often as I see them in discount bins, but I just couldn’t get my hands on them. As I said, I wouldn’t see Jae’s work again until I was in college, when he was on the Inhumans relaunch for Marvel Knights.
By then I wasn’t dependent on my parents to subsidize my interest in comics, and the market was very different than it was when I was in high school. Relatively new books in the speculator boom that fetched absurd sums at our local shop and swap meets were suddenly floating down to earth, available for cover price, or if you were patient…they began to elbow out all of the old ROM Spacenight issuess in the quarter bins.
During the latter years of the decade when the hobby was in shambles, I was able to go back and retroactively pick up a lot of the titles I’d missed during my junior and senior years of high school, when money was lean, and my attention shifted toward different mediums. In 1993 and 1994, around the time I’m guessing these issues were published, movies and video games no longer competed for my attention and money but demanded it, and monopolized it. And for good reason. These were communal experiences that I could share with my friends. For the price of two comics off the stands I could rent Richard Linklater’s Dazed and Confused and invite a room full of friends over to laugh at this little loveletter to the year many of us where born. Marvel couldn’t compete.
Jae Lee is an artist who was always just a bit ahead of me, and we’ve been playing catch up ever since. Watching his work evolve over the years has been a pleasure and a feast for the eyes. Back then, I just couldn’t see it.
I'm glad there was someone you like Jae Lee's art. 😆 🤣. Definitely 1990s no substance.
Did anyone catch the Michael Golden reference in that one panel?
I just subscribed and I dunno u guys frfr but I know at least one of y’all is cool cuz u said “he got the locs on …the eazy e joints 🤣
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I don't think Jae quite found his style yet. You can see elements of Tim Sale and Sam Keith in this. I loved when he did the second part of Hellshock. That is when you see him owning his style. That book was really cool to me when it came out, art wise
Travel Foreman lit Iron Fist up after Aja moved on.. 08'ish
Jae lee is an example of a constantly evolving artist. From crazy extremely dark art, to renaissance stylized art that makes every piece of work that he makes a true work of art. Especially with some of his dc stuff.
what else can be said than this needs to exist. bring CK back
was it well received when he start ? Cause in France when his Namor was published, the usual comics reader didn't like it so much and complain about his style as I remember. personnalyas a 10 years old kid, i was prettty interested cause it was different from all the other stuff but the olders readers dont receive it so well as i remember
“You need a tetanus booster when you read a Jae Lee comic” *chef kiss*
More like: very forgettable very unremarkable artwork.