How To Episode 9: Swiss K31 Disassembly

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    In this video I discuss the proper method for disassembling the Swiss K31 rifle. You will most likely never have to take the rifle down any further than this for proper maintenance.
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  • @07zx14White
    @07zx14White 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The K31, my favorite manual cycling milsurp rifle ever! There are just too many good things to say about this rifle. I urge you all to test one out and get one. You honestly won't find a more accurate surplus rifle with a very clean trigger and craftsmanship. Thanks again Eric.

  • @TheSwissGabber
    @TheSwissGabber 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice video, I shoot the K31 in competitions. Glad to see you folks like our craftsmanship :)
    Greetings from Switzerland.

    • @mrguiltyfool
      @mrguiltyfool 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do u guys drill and tap k31

  • @MrHondaguy1
    @MrHondaguy1 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! Eric I thank you for introducing me to the K31. I found a nice 1944 example at my favorite local gun shop, very fun, accurate and interesting gun to own and shoot.

  • @OurLanding
    @OurLanding 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    up here in Canada a lot of Swiss K31s are available. We even have Swiss rifle shooting clubs that shoot long range on DND ranges

  • @stuknoles3897
    @stuknoles3897 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought my K31 about 2 years ago when the supply was great. Mine looks as good on the bluing and the stock isn't quite as rough as that one. I've only run about 20 shells thru mine. Since the rifle stayed with the soldier at home, they usually kept the bores immaculate and the rifle clean. I did look under the butt plate and I found a small card handwritten with the owners name and unit and year of issue to him. The soldier even had a lock of his hair with it. Very nice rifles.

  • @goat4876
    @goat4876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Btw to disassemble the trigger mechanism you only need to unload the spring then you can pull everything out, without removing some pins or something.
    Greetings from Switzerland :)

  • @doctoreff1
    @doctoreff1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got one of those last Fall. I like owning it. It came with a bayonet and scabbard and I had a chance to shoot it once. It is a great gun with an excellent design. This vid will be of help should I find a need to take it apart.

  • @Ashhhhtube
    @Ashhhhtube 10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Who gives this guy the thumbs down, seriously. Great videos mate, very informative, appreciated. (I am in the process of buying a K31, it won't be here for a little while thanks to our great Australian gun laws..)

  • @rogerkimball2098
    @rogerkimball2098 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The flared pin is not actually attached to the trigger. It acts like a "step" which transitions the trigger from the first stage to the second stage. I actually thought the flared pin was attached to the mechanism, but discovered that the pin is only pinned to the frame.
    To remove the trigger here are the steps.
    1. Use a multi tool to lift the outer spring off the trigger mechanism. This will cause the trigger to move freely without tension.
    2. Pull the middle portion of the spring out of the groove in the center of the trigger housing.
    3. Now take the forward bar out with a multi tool. You should notice that the deeper recessed part of the spring was applying tension to this bar, which kept it in place. The bar comes out quite effortlessly.
    4. Grab the link with your multi tool and gently wiggle the trigger assembly out. This rifle is very tight on the tolerances so be patient.
    5. Clean and perform any trigger work you want. That being said, the triggers on these rifles are so sweet that a good cleaning is all that needs to be done.

  • @Haaraff
    @Haaraff 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got mine four years ago in used but good condition. Luckily they don't accept guns at the local scrap yard. So I asked the guy trying to get rid of it and he gave it to me for free. Now it's got the original target sights and shoots very well at 300 meters (swiss competition distance, 330 yards).

  • @tictacthecat
    @tictacthecat 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got a K31 (in the market for a K11 now) and its fast becoming my favorite Milsurp. Not quite as high on list as a Garand, but close. I measure my C&R trigger by the trigger on this rifle.
    Swiss rifles are some of the best deals in the C&R world today.

  • @iamzeusv2
    @iamzeusv2 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, they are pretty popular up here. Just got my PAL and bought my first rifle. A Swiss k-31. Can't wait for it to get home :P With all the videos from IV8888 and information from CGN, it wasn't long before i knew what i wanted first.

  • @flecjl
    @flecjl 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The trigger is very easy to remove without driving the flared pin out.

  • @Oheeeoh
    @Oheeeoh 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    K31 is the biggest current bargain in Milsurps IMO. Thank you for making the video, Eric.

  • @SuperMeatMachine
    @SuperMeatMachine 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see plenty of mil-surp rifles available at the local shops. If Eric keeps up these old rifle vids I may just go and buy one to give it a loving home.

  • @TL8311-j6x
    @TL8311-j6x 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOU ERIC!
    I just purchased a K31 a few weeks ago and this is exactly what i wanted

  • @jodelboy
    @jodelboy 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you get an old K31, you should definitly take the trigger components out. Those "blank" metal surface bars and their pivot pins usually have gotten gunked up and don't turn well, which makes the trigger pull "creepy". Still a clean break, but the pull to the pressure-point will be creepy. Just take it out, wiggle it around and clean it with WD-40 or something to get all that gunk out.

  • @SeedOfTruth777
    @SeedOfTruth777 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive been waiting for you and Ken to link up! I sporterized mine, pillared it, floated it and glass bedded it. I'm getting sub moa groups with gp11 @ 200yds. :) I cant wait to make my own loads!!

  • @116Bears
    @116Bears 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really love these breakdown videos. I could watch a show like this all day, like 'This Ol' Gun.'

  • @aaroncabrera8949
    @aaroncabrera8949 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    The K31 in this video is absolutely flawless!

  • @ENTERPRISE1942
    @ENTERPRISE1942 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    heh just ordered one today, 1941 made and walnut stock ^^

  • @steve-ip1cd
    @steve-ip1cd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for putting this video together and thank you for your service to our country.

  • @mr.mercury4247
    @mr.mercury4247 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know this video is ten years old, but it's still the best one, so imma say this here. YOU DO NOT NEED TO PUSH THAT PIN OUT TO REMOVE THE TRIGGER. If you disconnect the trigger spring the trigger will slide down off that pin and be able to be removed. It doesn't go through a hole in the trigger it just rests on a semicircular cut out in it.

  • @Silverhaze78
    @Silverhaze78 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    The trigger mechanism is real easy to pull out, there is no need to remove the pin the the trigger pivots around. It does not go threw the trigger it just pivots on it. My k31 came with a very light trigger and a non-existent second stage and luckily I found a new trigger assembly on ebay for 15$ and fixed the issue. 2.5 lb. trigger with a pronounced second stage now and wow is all i can say. The spring is easy to swap out and i am told that shooters at the annual Shutzenfest swap new springs in every year.

  • @ElocTheComrade
    @ElocTheComrade 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everyone needs at least one Mosin. The K31 is a really sweet rifle which you should also own. Buy both.

  • @mrsweethole
    @mrsweethole 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The k31 is really perfect like it is. It is the most accurate rifle I have ever shot, and fairly inexpensive, even after the prices went up.

  • @ish2998
    @ish2998 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mosins seem to be more available, they go for anywhere from $99 to $200, you can find 7.62x54R at any gun store, K31s seem to go for around $250 to $400, and I've never seen the 7.5x55 swiss cartridge anywhere.

  • @ShaDOWDoG667
    @ShaDOWDoG667 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Swiss army knife is the way to go for all disassembly tasks.

  • @jibberjabba1969
    @jibberjabba1969 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these rifles this will be my next purchase now i have my no4 Lee Enfield. Swiss quality. A fan from the UK

  • @ladefreakndah
    @ladefreakndah 10 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    "drilled and tapped"
    WTF? Why? If you wanted a sporting rifle buy a sporting rifle!
    This just makes me sick to my stomach...

    • @ShaDOWDoG667
      @ShaDOWDoG667 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      K31 is better than any other $300 sporting rifle you could ever buy.

    • @ladefreakndah
      @ladefreakndah 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      +ShaDOWDoG667
      I don';t think you understand. Why would you molest a k31?
      A Stevens (savage) model 200 is MORE than adequate as a sporting rifle and would possibly shoot a tighter group.
      The whole point of buying a k31 one is to have a k31. Not some sporterized monstrosity.

    • @ShaDOWDoG667
      @ShaDOWDoG667 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +ladefreakndah Think of it this way. For every "molested" K31 out there the more your factory condition K31 without import marks or what ever other unique features it does or does not have will, in the future, be worth even more at auction.

    • @ladefreakndah
      @ladefreakndah 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      +ShaDOWDoG667
      Gun molesters are making perfectly good antique arms unavailable to future generations. Running up prices doesn't make for a sound argument. If it's better than any sporting rifle you can buy then you don't need to putz with it. There are plenty of non-invasive modifications you can do. That includes scope mounts so why drill it? We don't need bubba's buying up antiques and destroying history. This clearly isn't their market, they need to stay out of it. Go buy a new *Savage bolt action rifle* if you want to dick around.
      I've seen a 8000 dollar gun reduced to a sub 1000 dollar gun because some idiot with a buffing wheel inherited his fathers gun collection.

    • @rrrr7659
      @rrrr7659 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +ladefreakndah I agree. It's tasteless to take a fine rifle such as this and make permanent, unnecessary modifications to it. Adding a scope mount isn't that bad, but seeing people tacticool the shit out of old bolt guns like this is a whole different level of cringe.

  • @swenner64
    @swenner64 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thought about a sporter stock for mine so I will be interested in seeing yours with one. K31 is just an all around great rifle. I pass up my Howa 270 and hunt deer with my K31 I just love the way it looks and love the way it shoots, infact I love everything about the gun. Reloading for the K31 is a breeze, love it with Hornady sst 165 grain bullets. Talk about Deer stopping power.

  • @SeedOfTruth777
    @SeedOfTruth777 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me and my uncle took my rockslid K31 build out. I didn't have a micrometer but my 3shot group @ 100 had to be around .5 moa. We were limited on distance but we set up targets @ this cutbank that we ranged @ 447yds. I hit the pill bottle we had @ that distance......The only problem for me is the ejection on the mount......Other than that Ill put it up against any rem700 .308 any day!!!.

  • @headpottargaryen
    @headpottargaryen 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    K31 is an absolutely beautiful rifle. It was my first and I love the thing. Mosin's good though too, but given the choice between the two I got the Mosin second.
    Though the Mosin is cheaper and everything for it is more available. It's just not the same thrill to shoot, in my own opinion.

  • @CPHannigan
    @CPHannigan 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    It depends on the Mosin you get. A large amount of them are wartime rifles that were assembled in a rush. Wartime rifles are generally poorer quality.

  • @Musicguy1161
    @Musicguy1161 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What I wouldn't give for a K31 in that condition before the collector value was trashed with the drilling. I could just throw up. I would have traded you a nice hunting rifle worth twice the value to have saved that historic rifle!! No more of those will ever be made and that's one less in original condition that exists. It's gone forever to become a hunting/target rifle for a guy that has plenty of hunting/target rifles. Sickening Eric.

  • @TheTn3131
    @TheTn3131 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    depends on the condition. if it is in good condition (bore is most important) then yes, that is on the low side, good deal. if you have an opportunity to get one, do it. One of the most entertaining guns i have shot

  • @gravityprone
    @gravityprone 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's a great price! I'm already looking for one, and plan to look at the next gun show. Thanks. Good shooting.

  • @ajaxmaintenance5104
    @ajaxmaintenance5104 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an M1911, with the same water damage on the butt stock, otherwise in immaculate condition. Simple to take down like a Mosin but accurate and quick to operate like a Lee Enfield. Exquisite rifles.

  • @sipafifth
    @sipafifth 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The engineering that went into mil-surp weapons amazes me.

  • @JaronPope
    @JaronPope 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video Eric. Thank you!

  • @TREMERE1
    @TREMERE1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, I think I'll do just that. Going to start looking around here first for price. Probably Mosin first, then K31. If I can't find the Mosin, the K31 moves up the list.

  • @progull
    @progull 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is th type of vid is what made me subscribe way back when.

  • @eclectic3618
    @eclectic3618 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks alot for videos like this one.
    Mine is all matching but no soldier info card :-( bayonet isn't matching but it's a 1941 all matching rifle in near mint condition for $500 with a correct non matching bayonet and 160 rounds of ammo and an ammo box.
    Took my wife and son to the range today, it was too much fun brother.
    Thanks again....

  • @jodelboy
    @jodelboy 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    That depends on where you live ;) Here in Switzerland they sell for about 50 Fr. for a "normal" K31, and about 100 Fr. if you want a real nice one (Swiss francs - USD is about the same).

  • @motlencore89
    @motlencore89 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    highly anticipating this sporter series, though i love mosins and they can be made into extremely accurate rifles, they down compare to the swiss k-31 across the board, except in reliabilty and simplicity.

  • @TNPer308
    @TNPer308 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a lot like really a lot like my enfield haha except for the bolt and some of the trigger. Cool vid

  • @sturny3698
    @sturny3698 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your "How to" vids, however, this type of video only pertains to a select viewing audience (owners of the firearm being shown). Where something like this could promote someone to purchase one, I think it's a better idea to keep the vids on a general scale, and not gun specific. Keep up the great work Eric and Berry! You guys are terrific!

  • @699bravo
    @699bravo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video, just got my first K31.

  • @jackflintstone
    @jackflintstone 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video; it was really helpful to see how one is supposed to take the bolt apart - I am going to do it your way from now on! Love my K31. I wish I would have snapped a few more up when they were cheap. I have the St. Marie scope temp mount (a smart piece of engineering) and with a 10X scope makes my K31 a real tack driver. It's a big heavy rifle though, I wouldn't want to carry it. I consider mine the "garrison" sniper rifle ; ) I am interested to see what you do with yours.

  • @Dragan972
    @Dragan972 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eric I’m still waiting for the part 2!!! Please!

  • @TREMERE1
    @TREMERE1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I already have an Enfield No4 Mk1. I am thinking of getting a Mosin. In comparing the two, which do you like the most, taking into consideration ammo availability, rifle availability, parts availability, and ease of service and operation.

  • @iamzeusv2
    @iamzeusv2 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did i hear you say you were going to sporterize this gun? If so, i cant wait for the videos :D

  • @gravityprone
    @gravityprone 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's a cool little rifle. Watching this makes me want one. are they hard to come by?

  • @TheGXDivider
    @TheGXDivider 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    gosh, still have this one from my grand-father.

  • @simonferrer
    @simonferrer 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you're going to go with a synthetic stock for the sporterization project anyway, have you considered duracoating the stock in Swiss alpenflage pattern? I think it would look interesting and be a tip of the hat to the rifle's country of origin.

  • @CPHannigan
    @CPHannigan 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agreed. Mosins aren't the pinpoint accurate guns that people claim them to be. The only exception would be some of the Finnish Mosins.

  • @TheBigOne0305
    @TheBigOne0305 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video, looking forward to seeing this converted.

  • @DrGingerHamster
    @DrGingerHamster 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Erik, what what you recommend to clean one of these, brake cleaner or would Ballistol be a better option? Also, recommended grease for this gun? I've heard any modern lithium grease and I assume some good gun oil. Thoughts? Thanks. It's a 50s model, and it has a lot of the orange gunk on it, which I've heard was the original grease/or cosmoline, unsure about that. Thanks for the help.

    • @DrGingerHamster
      @DrGingerHamster 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The action works great by the way. It's probably just more of a general cleaning to make it look good, and a good lube to make sure every metal surface is happy.

  • @richardmarshall159
    @richardmarshall159 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! Rick

  • @mcfitzmau
    @mcfitzmau 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Eric! Keep up the how to's!!

  • @MichaelK12
    @MichaelK12 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    You've already done K31 bolt disassembly in the milsurp bolts video.

  • @454pakr
    @454pakr 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for all your helpful videos!!!

  • @Robin6512
    @Robin6512 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    to be honest: I like my k31 and k11 just a tad better than my Garand. These things are awesome shooters.

  • @roybakker1973
    @roybakker1973 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually the nose cap assembly , rear band screw and front trigger guard screw needs to be tight as possible by hand with a swiss army knive. The reas screw should be hand tightened slightly less. The barrel should not be free floating as the K11 had. Tn this way as it was you could get accuracy issues.

  • @viking9934
    @viking9934 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi eric
    I would be nice that you do a video about sisassembly and reloadingfor the m-1896 swedish mauser.
    thnaks

  • @macraealford8356
    @macraealford8356 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you please do a video on how to take off the front sight of a Swiss G11 rifle. :)

  • @midsue
    @midsue 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for uploading this video.

  • @2bitmarketanarchist337
    @2bitmarketanarchist337 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a buddy who bought one off his grandpa for about .50 dollars . Lucky bastard.

  • @TheRobrowboski
    @TheRobrowboski 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful rifle. If I get one I hope my serial number match it would be perfect

  • @beverke7
    @beverke7 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    the K 31 is awesome.

  • @TREMERE1
    @TREMERE1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't think I was clear in my question. Since I already have the Enfield, my question pertains to the choice between the Mosin and the K31.

  • @ristin59
    @ristin59 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video!

  • @metalraider187
    @metalraider187 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mosin wins out in all those categories at the moment, personally though I would absolutely love an Enfield if I could get my hands on one and some surplus ammo.

  • @EvilMerlin
    @EvilMerlin 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plenty of the 7.5x55 Swiss out there at Wideners, AimSurplus etc. Mosin's are great rifles, but the K31 is 10x more accurate...

  • @iena71
    @iena71 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video, as usual !

  • @stevehall9333
    @stevehall9333 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding video, thank you

  • @davidcentino
    @davidcentino 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the K31

  • @LEXxTALIONS7913
    @LEXxTALIONS7913 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot for this awesome video. I have my k31 5 days ago and I want to upgrade and clean the gun but I never disassembled this particular weapon and your video help me a lot. Many thanks. 👍

  • @Brandy_IV8888
    @Brandy_IV8888 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was filmed a while back, don't worry, the beard is still in tact. :)

  • @BCrawford64
    @BCrawford64 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I almost bought one of these at a gun show because of you lol.

  • @SeedOfTruth777
    @SeedOfTruth777 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was gp11 too! No handloads yet.

  • @Julius44bc
    @Julius44bc 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good.

  • @Kampfkauz
    @Kampfkauz 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think if you want to shoot accurately on such long distances you can get a rifle made for that. Im not saying youre making bullshit, you know what youre doing, but, to be honest, i think the rifle looses his historical value if you drill holes in it. Thats no offend. On the other side i can understand that you want to know what that rifle is capable of. Whatever, i like the work youre doing and go on with that. Greets from Germany

  • @TREMERE1
    @TREMERE1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought some from a guy on gunbroker. He seemed to have quite a bit. $15 for a box of 20.

  • @regsparkes6507
    @regsparkes6507 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just now, bought a K-31 . I am in Canada and this Carbine cost me 299.99 Can$ plus 13% sales tax (how's that for a rip?) These guns are beautiful, and I can't wait to get to the Range. This How To episode was just what I needed, Thanks Eric.

    • @MW-tv2xj
      @MW-tv2xj 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These guns are worth thousands

    • @regsparkes6507
      @regsparkes6507 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      M W I meant that the 13% sales tax was a rip off not the $300.00CAD price of this wonderful rifle. These are still available now here in Canada, but the price now is closer to $400CAD now.

    • @MW-tv2xj
      @MW-tv2xj 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya the price went way down but it'll go back up in a second

  • @Finnv893
    @Finnv893 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you compare this with the ross rifle and point out rossy's design flaws?

  • @maplecote
    @maplecote 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool.

  • @britishfetishman101
    @britishfetishman101 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you guys do a video on how it would be possible for a canadian to buy guns in the states?

  • @exj220
    @exj220 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info.

  • @2damaxmr2
    @2damaxmr2 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I cannot separate the stock from the receiver. Yes i removed the barrel bands and the tang/receiver screws. .

  • @jonathanwhitson802
    @jonathanwhitson802 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this my out of 27 guns my k31 is my baby

  • @MrAlcoholic11
    @MrAlcoholic11 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    you should do some spearfishing in the bahamas :D

  • @ENTERPRISE1942
    @ENTERPRISE1942 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I could find a good one, Hey Eric, how much do you guys charge if you have any at the shop, if they can be shipped to another FFL as I don't want to travel far, Im hoping to find one, also may get a scope for it, been saveing and can't find any here in ohio, and classic arms is out of them.

  • @GottliebGoltz
    @GottliebGoltz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have one thank You.

  • @Petis333
    @Petis333 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any update on this project? Keen to see the plans...

  • @lgOptimusv
    @lgOptimusv 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi I have a question I turned 18 a couple weeks ago and want a gun I am looking at a Mossberg 715t .22 lr would you recommend that as a start just getting into guns of always wanted one I am semi knowledgeable about guns but would like to know what I can get into for around 500$ and get used to it and such and I live in California

  • @killacopforfun666
    @killacopforfun666 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool!

  • @NzMaze
    @NzMaze 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love a k31 - just have to get my licence

  • @socalrws
    @socalrws 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid - but plz list what will make this a 1000 yd tack driver?

  • @Piret223
    @Piret223 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    please make a 1892 Disassembly :)