BTS, mental health and you | A CONVERSATION
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ก.ค. 2019
- A VIDEO ABOUT BANGTAN SONYEONDAN (방탄소년단)
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hello and welcome to our first "conversation" video. in this video, we talk about depression and mental health through the lens of the world's biggest pop group, Korean boyband BTS. we would like for this video to reach younger people who are struggling with mental health as well as pressures from society including career struggles and college selection.
we wrote it a bit wide-ranging as a result, discussing not only BTS" work in regards to mental health and self-love, but also things like post-graduation struggles, something that elliot discusses at length towards the end of the video through sharing his personal experience.
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if you're interested, we're also musicians and have some records out, the most recent of which is elliot's "PRETTY BBY LOVES YOU," out now on soundcloud.
REFERENCES
Newport Academy study on teen depression: www.newportacademy.com/resour...
BTS' RM and Suga talk mental health, depression, and connecting with fans: ew.com/music/2019/03/29/bts-r...
Amino Apps breakdown of "n-po generation:" aminoapps.com/c/btsarmy/page/...
Neoliberalism - the ideology at the root of all our problems: www.theguardian.com/books/201... (support trans rights btw)
The harsh truth: US colleges are businesses, and student loans pay the bills: www.theguardian.com/money/us-...
Putting The Quarter-Life Crisis Under A Microscope: www.girlboss.com/work/quarter...
How Millennials Became the Burnout Generation: www.buzzfeednews.com/article/...
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Bruh imagine having a masters degree on bts philosophy 😩🤌
Depression is THE disease of this generation. At my work we joke: how's your burnout syndrome? -Oh it is doing great!
I am 31 and booked my first appointment with therapist. And I am not ashamed to say that BTS helped me to come to this decision faster, to realize a lot of things about myself
Sasha : good for you, girl. I've been depressed on and off since I was a child - I didn't get help until I was in my 40s, that help wasn't effective, and only when I was given medication (which I was reluctant to accept) did anything improve. I'm certainly still depressed - the meds smoothe out the troughs, but that helps.
I found some of the best help for me was helping others, and doing that by listening closely to them without judging, and being honest about my situation. And I've been a member of a number of groups related to depression etc - in every one we laughed a lot.
So, my friend, continue to refuse shame! And also embrace the irony and humour available, even when it's tinged with bitterness. A healthy burnout syndrome can be celebrated, too. (Or is that a Very British Sense of Humour Thang?)
@@Maraaha55 are you good now? I am from Ukraine, so this is more our work-place sarcastic humor) you can call it British in some way) I work in state organization, so we are overworked and underpayed)
@@AlexaOleksa I lost my job here in August - worked for a charity and the workload was unachievable without taking work home and doing at least another day's work unpaid, and we were underpaid anyway - so yes, burnout - we all had it. Since then all but 1 of our team has left the charity, and she's looking hard just now.
I still struggle with depression and at present I'm also dealing with other health issues (heart issues and diabetes) too - which I think were a result of the job.
But, you know, I'm so open about it - after yeas of struggling I don't care who knows, I talk about it with anyone, without going into grim details : I refuse to be ashamed - like you do - and that helps me enormously. Fear and shame are so big a part of depression that if you can decide they don't bloody MATTER in at least ONE area, you release so much space and energy to deal with the things that do matter.
In a way I've decided it doesn't MATTER that I'm Depressed, it matters that I do what I can and try to function each day. Whether that is good enough for anyone else - none of my business.
Now, Babes, I've got to find a job, so THAT's going to be interesting (I'm 15 months away from the official retirement age here)! HAH! But, again, I'll find a way, somehow.
I hope that you find your therapy helpful, and perhaps reading might also help, if you have the energy. If there's any advice I can give, it would be to find the positive in even the darkest moment : when you are an island of pain, notice the green of a weed, the texture of its leaf, notice the colours of graffiti, the subtle shading of water stains on cement, and, if it's there, notice the sunshine. Actively look for the good, and if you can't see it, as soon as you can, look again, keep looking. And record it somehow, on your phone, in a journal, anything. Have some place that you can Focus on the good, so that you don't miss it amid all the fear and exhaustion.
@@AlexaOleksa Sasha - thank you so much for your kind words. Don't hang about - do what my friends did and Get Another Job! Like you believe in me, I believe in you : Depression and Burnout be damned!
Yes!!! That’s what I’m eternally grateful for to Bangtan. I found them at a tender age where I was extremely vulnerable, confused, and impressionable. I was in denial of being gay, of having mental health issues, etc; but when they came along, they helped me realize that all of that is okay. Its okay to be down and it’s okay to be yourself, and this is something more than the majority of the fandom can cap for. Bts made my life a lot better, changed my mind abt a lot of things, made me less cynical, and people can take it how they want.
Elliot saying "listen to mono by RM in all streaming platforms" made me smile, like yes. 😂 Hahahaha. Thank you so much!
STREAM!!!
Yes
Mono is perfection.
@@bbygang - have you done a video yet about the vast amount of senior ARMY's? I'm a 57 yr old Aussie and would love to share something like that.
BTS mention the "n po generation", whether directly or indirectly, in songs such as Dope, Silver Spoon and Go Go (muish's blog gives some pretty good translations and interesting references/opinions). I remember Koreans getting sick to their stomach when they actually paid attention to the words of Go Go, which is pure satire aka social critique wrapped up in a veil of humor in the instrumental and choreography. Also their reactions to Namjoon's verse in Dope were similar, where he uses the names this generation was called.
amazing thank you!!!
@@bbygang you're welcome! thank you for this amazing video!
Way to about out Muish. She is amazing. Wish she had the following that DKDKTV explain series has. She goes so deep.
yeah, I even remember that earlier this year, during the jimin&rm dalgona coffee live, one of them said the word 누력 (noryeok), aka “effort”, and then they started sarcastically imitating the older generation, saying stuff like “kids nowadays don’t put in enough effort”, which literally is part of the lyrics in baepsae. Jimin even said something petty like “They (boomers) don’t even know what effort is” lmao
@@griswaldgirl can you give me the to her channel? I couldn't find it :(
I used to be such a sad, pessimistic person and then I found bts. Them and their music changed my life for the best and I'll always be thankful for that. I've learned to enjoy the little moments in life instead of letting my anxiety take over me, I'm even going back to college next year and instead of being scared I'm excited for all the good things that are coming my way lol
Idk if this comment makes sense english is not my first language but anyways STREAM MONO AND SAVE THE EARTH GUYS!!
this is an amazing comment and it totally made sense. thank you so much!
They change everything way more than all "self help" books I read
this comment is everything i wanted to say mwah
I was like all serious and into the whole deep discussion about burnout and college tuitions and no jobs and BTS being legendary and then you suddenly end it with "listen to mono" and honestly the best ending ever
haha thank you!!
The biggest reference of Bangtan speaking out on "n po generation" would probably be the song Baepsae/silver spoon.
amazing thank you!!
@@bbygang No, thank you because this is so so so important! Thank you for putting this together and sharing your experience too. 💜 And yes stream mono✊
@@back2blueside201 thank you!!
@@bbygang Aldo Dope and Go Go
the MONO promotion at the end ✨
we stan
I think "Euphoria" will always be the song that 'rescued' me. It's main line "I'm the one I should love" is so simple but so strong... it really fucking blew me in a good way.
EDIT: sorry I MADE THIS COMMENT AT 4 A.M. IN THE MIDNIGHT AND I KNOW ITS EPIPHANY 😭😭😭😭 please have mercy on me I'm a research student trying hard lol
Also, if you read this, I hope things work out for you, dude! You seem smart and well-informed and you seem resourceful!
Hahaha don't worry, I hope you are doing well 💜💜💜💜
Imagine if the background of this was Bapsae/Silverspoon. Istg.l, the lyrics. Its a song that talks about the very core of what youre talking about and Im mindblown.
This is relatable to a spiritual level. Thanks Elliot!
thank you!!!
When you started talking about Burnout, and that article, I hadn't realised that that kinda is what I'm going through. Constant anxiety because of that uncertainty.
I'm scared, I'm constantly so fucking scared that I'm going to disappoint people. And I constantly feel like I'm not working hard enough.
I'm from India so I guess there's some sort of stereotype about us in Western countries that I think sort of makes everyone assume that we are a hardworking bunch.
And I think that pressure to be a that person has effected me since I was I'm middle school.
I don't know, I hadn't realised that it was universal.
I thought I was alone until I found BTS. Until I found this community.
For some reason now, I don't feel that alone. Even when I'm by myself, with my anxiety. I'm not alone.
I'm really emotional haha, thank you for making this video Elliot :)
Ritika Mudabidri same :)
I feel u💜
Hey Ritika! I can relate to what you said. I am Indian too and I'm working for a Western company and the expectations that they set for me are not, let's just say, they are a little hard to keep up with. On top of that my anxiety makes me overthink everything to the point where I can't be productive and honestly, some days(most days this month) I just don't feel like working. When he mentioned burnout, I felt that that so deeply. I have been chasing good grades, career milestones and living up to people's expectations at such a feverish pace my whole life that in my mid twenties I feel like all my life force has been sucked out of me. lol Just Indian things, I suppose. And like you, I only learnt to take it easy after I found BTS. So, yes, you're not alone. I guess I'm emotional too, haha :)
i am 38 yrs old but i agree with a lot of this. i hope more people see this video. but if at least one person sees this video and helps them then that would be amazing too.
thank you!!
you're being BTS... even one person sees this vids is amazing
Just found out I failed my neurology exam because I'm too burned out, depressed and anxious to study, so to say I relate to this is an understatement. And I fully agree with you about the collage tuition thing, it's ABSOLUTELY NOT WORTH IT!! I'm in my second to last year of med school and just the meer thought of how much money I've spent on my degree over the past 5 years is nauseating especially coupled with the fact that I figured out (rather late/ was in denial) that I hate medicine but forced my self to stick around because I didn't want to disappoint my family especially being a first born immigrant daughter and I didn't want to feel like a failure cause everyone looks at you like your crazy for not wanting such a prestigious career. Without exaggerating BTS music and message has been the only reason I've somehow managed to keep my head above water despite the water's rising all around me and I'll forever be grateful I found them when I did. Sorry for writing an essay, I just wanted to express how important all of this is and thank you for speaking on it so well! Thanks for sharing your story all the best to you, hope everything works out in your favour 😊
thank you for this comment! we totally relate to the immigrant first gen struggle. and we totally get being too burned out to study as well. you seem smart and well-intentioned, we're proud of you. thank you for the awesome comment
@@bbygang thank you for the kind words means a lot! i look forward to more great content from this channel. Stay hydrated :)
@@queenii This video just popped back up on my recommended so I'm only just seeing your comment. I fully understand that confusion of wondering if you want this for the right reasons. I've been telling everyone that I wanna be a doctor since forever & I won't lie the seeds were planted there by those around me (family, friends, society) because I was considered traditionally smart & obviously "smart children" especially in my African household are supposed to be doctors, engineers or lawyers like it's a no brainer. And feeling the need to pay some sort of a debt to your parents (esp immigrants) weighs heavy on the conscience but let's remember they worked had so we could live happy & fulfilling lives even though it might not always look like what they imagine a fulfilling life to be. I've learned the hard way that neglecting your own happiness and health serves no one.
Oooh myy word I'm almost in the exact same situation as you. It's scary but comforting to know I'm not alone. I'm in my second to last year doing medicine. I have weird love-hate relationship with it though. Sometimes I feel like I'm in denial and I am just drowning and other times I feel like there's no other place for me but in medicine. I went into it because everyone told me to and because I genuinely always wanted to help others. I don't want to disappoint my parents and community but I have neglected myself and my own happiness. I found BTS at the exactly the right time because by focusing on loving myself I have slowly managed to get by and get out of this burn out. I still struggle of course but it's better than before.
Me too after jumping into engineering major without having any dreams or ambitions i was and still am too anxious and scared that i get distracted and can't focus on studying....i kind of resent my dad for doing this to me....got exams in a month so i am trying to pick myself off and study to atleast pass though the first semester 😭 wish me luck💜
I hope i don't get lost
Please capitalize “BTS” in the title and add the Korean name so K-Armys can find this! Other than that Great video. Thank you!💜 you wrote amazing article on RM💜
thank you!!! i just now capitalized in the title and added the korean name in the description. does this really work???
I found BTS when I was 19 and had to leave my country, family, friends to get the education I wanted because I just couldn't get it in my home country, which is France. And France is supposed to have a great education system (it has in many regards) so I can't even imagine the struggle for young american going to college... Anyway it has been 4 years, I'll graduate in 2 years and I'll finally be able to come back then. I'm so thankfull to BTS for having given me so many good moments and so much hope, I think my mental state might have been very different without them. Instead of being sad of going back every night to my small and lonely apartment, I remember I was just so excited to get back to my computer and to BTS. It was really happy moments for me ^^
13:20 - “i’m always threatened with this idea that i could do more.” wow. yes. one of my pastors in college told me to let go of the phantom version of myself - the “me” that’s living at “full potential” because she’s not real and she was driving me into destructive, paralyzing perfectionism. i’m still learning to rest in who i am and what i’m able to do now, with no judgement. i’m so glad i had that as a tool when my depression/anxiety spiked in the years after.
Thx for sharing that 5his really hit deep for me I don’t have dressions but I’m constantly look at doing more I think I should look more what I did now
This, yeah.. this, all this.
💜
why did it gave me chills???
man, that speech starting at 11:40......I felt that
I LOVE how you structured the message of "Love Yourself" as an actual political statement when perhaps many people didn't see it that way....when perhaps they say it as an empty message or a shallow statement. Wow. While I appreciate their more overt songs live N.O or Baepsae, this puts their recent work in a better light for me. This is an important video for all ARMYs and non-ARMYs alike.
Definitely subscribed after this. Thank you for the video.
I believe that any thoughtful serious message is political. Even the most personal statement, if you want it to be heard properly, has political implications. In fact the most successful and powerful political statements have always been personal. That is why BTS' openness about their fragility is also part of a political message.
This is exactly how I feel as an ARMY... but I can't put it into words. You're amazing. Thanks 💜
"BTS isn't a Kpop groups but betters than some doctors and psychologists,is a way to love yourself 💜
Y'all read "Burn out Society" by Byung Chul Han he's a korean professor at a university here in Berlin, Germany. It's kind of scientific and philosophic but really explanatory
I’ll add this to my never-ending book list 😂
I love BTS and specifically RM and Suga production of songs about the mental health and mental illness
15:40 when you said this my mind immediately remembered a BTS quote! “If you’re trapped in other’s thin judgements/then the sun will set on your life like a court” (the metaphor for this song is basketball). If you haven’t already listened to Intro: In The Mood For Love, I really hope you do. It echoes a lot of what you said and I’ve always felt better listening to it, knowing Suga felt my same emotions.
Here’s an excerpt of the lyrics if my sales pitch wasn’t enough:
Breathe or dream
Row the oars along with your heartbeat
If you are trapped in the other’s thin judgements
Then the sun will set on your life like a court
What am i doin’ with my life
This moment won’t ever come again
I’m asking myself again, am I happy right now?
The answer is already there, I’m happy
As someone in high school who’s considering majoring in journalism, I feel like I really needed to hear what you said. All these TH-cam videos about people getting into Ivies made me think for a second if I should go for it. But at the end of the day prestige won’t pay my bills. Thanks c:
thank you!!
I’ve been wanting to jump off a bridge ever since I was 11 and till this day I can’t get the help(mind you I’m supposed to turn 16 this year), a lot of us can’t get help in my school. We are to young to be depressed or to have anything wrong, we have it easy, even the ones before us don’t acknowledge it. When a group like bts encourages you to speak up, tell you things you’ve been wanting to hear, makes you feel heard. It feels good
Obviously I’m still way to sad, and anxious, and I’m all over the place, but at least having comfort makes me feel a bit sane. I’m so happy to be a fan of bts all this time, seeing them grow and see how much positivity they be spreading.
I’m proud of us 😁💜
Nailed it right there! BTS’ narrative not just their music is showing people how to live, hence their extraordinarily huge international and very passionate fandom
Stream MONO 😂 and then paradise im dead I love this 💜😂😍
I’m only 15 years old and my life has almost been cut short many times. I have a very stressful life. If it wasn’t for the things bts have said and done I probably wouldn’t be alive. My life is just now getting better I have a gf that loves me and I have one close friend that I can tell everything and they like bts too. They have had the same thoughts I have had and we both struggle with our home lives and I think that’s why we rely on each other to be there for each other. I’m watching this during the corona quarantine and rn my mental health isn’t the best bc I’m forced to stay home. But I’m trying to love myself and live the happiest life I can thanks to bts, my gf, and my best friend.
before i start watching this video, i just want to say that "bts and mental health" probably covers like 66% of my conversation material (with the rest being dogs and math) so i am very much looking forward to this
I was suicidal from the very young age . I hated myself for being myself. Then I Discover BTS. No I don't love myself yet but I'm not suicidal anymore. Every day i try little more to love myself and these are all happened because of BTS and their Music. They help me find the real me. And made me realize why I shouldn't hate myself much more. There are really more things BTS taught me Or make me realize. Sometimes they are the only one who give me strengths to go through my tough day.
this video needs to go viral
wish i knew how
@@bbygang there are instuctions a youtuber can follow to pop up in peoples recommendations. I dont know what exactly they are, but one of them is naming videos like popular ones and regularity of the videos. this comment isnt probably going to help, but i wish a huge popularity for you too. also it is rare to see such a good video production as yours!
Enjoyed this so much - I really appreciate your intelligence and willingness to apply it to discussing the issues facing your generation. Keep doing that - the world needs people like you who will keep the conversation going and keep people thinking about these things.
thank you!
Your reason for liking bts is exactly why I fell into their music in 8th grade - 5 years ago almost. By that point I was stressed, tired, and extremely self conscious with what I think was the beginning of my social anxiety disorder. I was into kpop already, but it was superficial. It was and still is one of the few groups that I wholeheartedly love. For context I also respect Seventeen, but I'm a gay girl so the sex appeal aspect kinda turns me off. BTS however goes beyond that appeal, and I latched onto that.
Eventually, I found myself in each of the members and each has become a sanctuary for me. I watch bts when I'm anxious, stressed, sad, or even lonely. I continue to see myself going further into a whole where those are the only feeling I have, so the further I get into BTS. For me BTS is a safe space I can go to if I am having a panic attack because public transportation or if I'm lonely because a lot of the time I'm trapped in a cycle of homework. For that I am grateful.
i really felt this video, i'm just 16 years old and i've been an over-thinker since i was a child, when I got to my teenage years it got worse , i can't stop overthinking and anxiety is always haunting me , i constantly feel that if i'm not studying or learning something new 24/7 i won't be "worth it" in the future and that i won't find a good job with the career i want to follow :( it's horrible but thanks to BTS ( i know it sounds cheesy but whatever) i've been able to express my feelings to people that care about me without feeling completely guilty , i still go through a lot and all that but i'm seeking for help in my own way , they give me hope and happiness somehow , and i'm pretty thankful for that :') 💜 [sorry if i made any mistakes ;-; , english is not my first language ㅠ ㅠ ]
I feel the exact same, and while I haven't really been able to talk about this with my loved ones I've promised myself that I'll take the therapy options provided by my school in the fall (cause then my parents don't need to find out, so I can approach that once I feel better). on top of that I always feel insecure and shallow because I don't feel like I have any hobbies and I don't have any friends either because I can't ever remember stuff about them and I always talk about me as if I'm seeking validation from their laughs or something (idk look I'm doing it again)
I'm going through a really rough phase in my life where I don't know what is going to happen even tomorrow. My anxiety and panic attacks are through the roof. This video spoke to me on many levels and the article mentioning the burnout is very real in my life. Thank you for making this video
Omg this is so amazing you said a lot of things that I couldn't put into words, also a lot of armys say you find bts when you most need them am glad you found them to..
thank you so much!
I absolutely love what you said about bts giving you tools so that when they aren’t entertaining you that you can live a good life. For me, bts picked me up when I was at my lowest and their music and videos were really the only things that could make me happy. Now, I enjoy all aspects of my life even if bts is directly involved (I say directly because they are still involved with the skills and lessons they have taught me). I am unbelievably grateful to them ❤️
this is an absolute great video!! thank you so much for voicing what all ARMYs try to explain in such an intelligent and well researched way! keep the good work!
Wow this video is great! I'm always down for a critique of neoliberalism... capitalism... and add BTS? my kind of video
The last speech at the end made me feel better. I am currently in college but I'm extremely unsure what to do with my life. I'm really glad I know I'm not the only one that has the same worries as me...
Great video. You are a good person. Don't be anxious. Everything will work out in the end. Your hardest times often lead to the greatest moments of your life.💜💜💜
thank you :') so kind
Now I can understand why your videos are so analytical and well informed u r a journalist I really injoyed watching them today
BRUH THE MONO CALLOUT THAT ALBUM IS QUITE LITERALLY & UNIRONICALLY LIFE-SAVING
Very touching, very relatable, very ARMY. Thank you for your view on BTS' influence and messages.
thank you for watching!!
Rewatching all these essays a year later for the second time
I APPRECIATE PARADISE PLAYING AT THE END THERE!!
......verrrrry clevvvverr my friend...
I was supposed to graduate in 2020 in a third world country. But I'm still stuck in my freshman years. I'm really grateful that I'm blessed cz I really don't have to think of tuition debts (even in dollars) & my basic needs. But I'm stuck here. I needed to hear words like yours. BWL era ARMY but I still haven't had that similar connection with BTS like you did which is v important for ppl like me. I won't say I've connected right away after watching this but I'm rethinking things in a positive way (trying to relate to Jin's words). Thank you so much 💕
Is this video just 15 (*17) minutes of Namjoon-asskissing? I wish... THAT A MOOD
I'm currently in my second year, almost third year, of high school and to say that I suffer from burnout is an understatement. Everyday is a struggle to get through and I stress about exams months in advance. These two years haven't been good, but BTS helped me get through them. I'm forever grateful for their comforting and meaningful songs, their empowering speeches and their kind personalities. Mixtapes like Mono have become places I turn to to seek comfort. And I know school and grades don't matter in the long run and I know that someday I'll be ok, but at this point in time it feels like If I don't succeed I'll be a failure.
So thank you Elliot for this amazingly structured video it really helped me understand a lot of things. And the part where you started talking about burnout really resonated with me and many others. I hope you are alright and that you can also be successful as a journalist but also an artist. So please don't give up, I believe in you :)
PS I'm gonna go stream Mono
thank you for this video, it's easily understandable, relatable n very well put together. n elliot, you're a good person, never forget that. things WILL work out in the end, it gets better, i promise. 💜
thank you!! why does everyone keep callin me a good person y'all don't know me T_T
@@bbygang you just are, one can see it while listening to you, you did your research thoroughly n talked with respect but also in a reassuring way, i think lots of us needed to hear what you had to say :)
@@mims2977 omg this is so kind thank you
This is amazing!! More people need to see this
thank you!!
I’m 32 (about to be 33) years old and I agree with a lot of what you’re saying. I graduated high school in 2005 and graduated from a private (and expensive af) university in 2009. I still have a pretty decent amount of student loans to pay back. I was lucky enough to find a great paying job right out of college. However, that job has since come and gone due to the oil and gas industry. I worked as a Mineral Title Abstractor for over 10 years and one random day I lost my job. With no warning. I’m married with 2 kids and we struggle daily (mentally, emotionally and financially). My husband has a good job with insurance but it’s still not enough. I stay home with my youngest because we can’t afford childcare. It would be more expensive for me to go back to work and pay for childcare than it is for me to stay home with her. I was diagnosed with postpartum depression after having my oldest and has since manifested into clinical depression. I still have a very difficult time managing it on a day to day basis. I have to say I was fairly lucky when I was younger during my middle and high school days. I had a happy and hopeful life. I couldn’t imagine what kids go through these days. Like I said, I’m in my 30s and have trouble dealing, I just can’t imagine dealing with these struggles so young. I personally think BTS is doing something great with their platform. I wish I had more influential like BTS when I was younger. I’d be lying if some of their music hasn’t helped me at 32 years old.
what a beautiful video! thank u for telling us ur story! 💜
This is a great video. Made me love bts even more and feel a bit better about myself
amazing thank you!
I have to show this to my brother who just graduated, thank u...
thank you!
i hope he likes it :')
i am so glad to see people as excited about bts songs as you are
i relate to the piece abt burnout you recommended a little too much lol. thanks for the video it was a nice take on your perception of bts' message. ps n-po generation is mentioned in dope/silver spoon but the overall theme of giving up on *yourself* goes through a lot of songs so far away being my personal fave
thank you!!! your comment is super helpful and i'm glad the piece was relatable
I'm fifteen . I was 4 years old when my parents send me to school . Before school I was already taking tutions which helped me and I was always 1st in my class . I liked it cause my parents praised me for it and so I used to study hard . But I remember once , despite my efforts, I wasn't able to come at the top . Now my parents aren't like those disney villains . They said it's okay and that I should try harder next time . But there was this disappointment in their faces which I remember till this day very clearly. I was very young and I made it into my habit to give my all for my studies and always get no 1 place . It is good some may say ....but it started to eat me up as I grew up . I couldn't maintain my position and thus I will "punish" myself by repeating "I'm a failure" again and again and as I grew up it only went down hill . I started self harm . I was depressed and suicidal . I developed social anxiety . Funny thing is I had these without knowing these were a thing . I used to self harm without knowing what I am doing . Only after BTS I educated myself on these topics. BTS were the first ones to tell me that I actually am supposed to love myself too. And that I need to take care of myself . Everyone only ever asked something from me my entire life . They were the first ones to tell me I needed to do something for myself too . I am definitely in a better place now . Not suicidal atleast . I've decided I'll take therapy once I'm out of school as my parents don't know about my whole situation and they won't be willing to help me anyways as they don't believe in mental health . But for now I have BTS . They are my safe space . They always are there for me when I'm suffocating and counting my breathes . Always there when I am thinking of giving up . No one can take them and their music away from me . They saved my life and are still saving it everyday with their music .
Jamming to paradise at the end👌 the fact that the message of that song is that we shouldn't place value in being excessively productive and that it's okay sometimes just exist and breathe. Perfectly fitting for the discussion of how BTS are pivotal in helping out our burn out generation. Thank you for making this!!!
Lol, the way I was soooo alone physically and mentally when I came across bts is crazy. I can't even count how many times I would cry after listening to a speech or interview from them, not because I was still hopeless, but because it finally didn't seem as if I was alone, thank you army💜
Ok this is very well researched. Brilliant. Thanks a lot 🙏
thank you!
i sat down and wtched the whole video and i'm glad i did it
I really needed to hear this, thank you!
this is very informative and the last part was very inspirational. thank you so much for making this video and speaking about this 💜
thank you!!
a video about my favorite group, focusing on the value of their message in a thoughtful, nuanced discussion that takes into account the kind of terrible social / economical / political situation of our time, includes personal experiences, and a lovely sprinkle of hot spicy leftist talk? chef's kiss. thank for such a great video! i won't get into it too much but as a person with major depressive disorder for... a very long time and anxiety that popped up in college, it's been A Time to make it this far. and bts has been a huge help in the effort that is surviving and trying to manifest a good life in the system we live in. it's lovely to hear that impact put into words and analyzed so well (I'm going to have to check out that book you referenced) and means a lot.
Thank you for this video, I'm in the same stage of life as you were when you put out this video.
Well said! Thank you for sharing! This message needs to be shared with our friends!
damn at 7:24..."'Love Yourself' is not an empty-natured, big-tent message: it's a pointed message - it's a political message directed towards young people suffering from a generational crisis engineered by the greedy incompetence of previous generations." DAMN this right here, this discussion is a huge part of why i'm an army
Thank you for this quality work. I hope this will get more views, everybody deserves to see this ♡ you spoke the truth
thank you!! it will soon i have faith ahah
Great video essay! Fighting! 💜
13:23 "I'm always threatened with the idea that I could do more"
You just put this problem that I've fought with for a long time in words, which I had never really been able to do, or to explain, so thank you. Really.
thank you so much for this video, elliot! 💜 i can see a great person in you i love your videos and surely your future vids as well! gotta listen to mono now
Elliot you rock! Not only do you to an amazing job digging deep into BTS but you provide such an important and beloved medium here on TH-cam. Thoughtful deep well documented and well researched discourse that brings everything home to our deepest hearts. And you do it all with the same passion that you enjoy BTS with. I feel you man and I love you and if you have a patreon I want to support you.
I've been going through your videos and your channel and I just wanted to say: keep up the good work! The topics you talk about and the way you discuss them is very interesting. I'm always so happy when I find intelligent ARMY discourse, for real it makes my day to see people talk about sociopolitical topics relevant to today's youth (and BTS). So thank you! Great video! You nice, keep going!
I loved ur video and related for most of it thank you
you're so intelligent and well-spoken.. love listening to you and educating myself through my videos!
Aaaand I cried again.
You speak our words, and that's kind of the whole point of journalism ? Your sources are clear and your reflexions mirrors true facts : our societal problems and their effects on youth and how those seven boys made us see that "Wth, so what I feel is not normal ? I shouldn't hate myself because I feel like I don't work enough ?"
I cried, again, I cried because as many people in our generation, millenials and coming Gen Z, I understand the fact that I'm vulnerable, and I can speak about it, with this giantic fandom !
I personally discovered those rapper guys with 'No more dream' and especially 'Cypher 2' with translated lyrics (I'm french), and I was charmed by those korean raps, it was so fluid, even more fluid then english ! And I laugh so much at the meaning 😂 This was a freaking diss track !
Then they fully incorporated their ethos in their music... And I was there in the first seconds of each new album each time, and I was able to connect to a korean song which was translated in english which is not my native language... The freaking power in that, like, what ?!
And the connection was hard. I was starting college, and had severe anxiety even if I was not that bad at studying.
And THERE the love yourself area hit. I was not prepared because I never analysed my feelings before, I thought having really hardships with my way of being (Kinda lazy) was normal, and I had to hate myself for that.
And then the BTS came, like "You're not alone, look around", I had a plateform, to speak myself.
And to speak is to heal.
So today on 2020 I'm about to become a teacher, and I start to think that this was a reaaally bad idea : my future is dark, I feel the burn out coming.
But I'll try, cause I love to teach, but the difference now, is that I'll stop when I'll feel out of me, not to burn myself.
I don't know if they know that they did that much, but like, huge thanks to them.
I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for those cuties whom spoke their hearts out.
Anyway I'm a year late but great video ! And you choose the right path, you're so good at this (journalism) !
Your video slapped me so hard, thank you
Okey, I will stream, 😂 thank you for your videos they are very helpful and enjoyable
I'm 15 and I definitely know what you mean. I'm going to a boarding school now because of the high Ivy Matriculation rate but I feel like I have no hobbies. I used to love reading but I don't have time for that anymore. I still tell people reading is my hobby and it makes me feel shallow and useless. Even though I'm in a good position to go to a good college, I have no idea what I want to do. I always tell people astrophysics, because I like it and I think it's interesting, but I have no idea what that means in terms of jobs and despite my school having three electives for it I don't think I'm going to take all of them because I need to "branch out" and "find what I enjoy" and if I take all three then schools will expect me to go down the astrophysics rabbit hole. And astrophysics isn't that lucrative of a job market anyways, cause it's mostly research so research grants or jobs with NASA :/ Idk though people say I'm smart when I tell them astrophysics but smart doesn't get me anywhere
this is exactly how i feel, thank for this enlightenment
Loved the mono plug at the end. 😃 Listening to that album is a part of my morning routine, and any other time I need to calm anxiety (i.e. day of ticket presale 😂 - i streamed that nonstop until I secured my tix!) enjoying your vids!
the way that I teared up near the end
I'm 16, and this resonates a lot. I want to say that I agree with all of it and thank you for making this video. bts are so important and so are all of you. don't forget that
absolutely amazing video. I had not yet been able to fully understand why BTS really has helped me over the years nor was I able to articulate it in the right way to explain it to other people. I just graduated from college and have been going through a time of depression and anxiety.. this video helped me realize why I fell in love with BTS in the first place. Thank you for this great video !
hey, thank you for sharing your struggles, it was very comforting for me personally to know whatits actually know whats actually going to happen once i graduate uni. Like BTS says, adults always show us this pipe dream and we believe in it like fools. Your story really made me understand even though only minutely, because I havent experienced it yet, what its like to be a uni graduate. Thank you for your words, I am glad that you found your comfort in them :D
ALSO U HELLA SMORT BOI
I love this channel. I really wish you got way more exposure. Your content is amazing. I always try and get people to check you out. I'm glad I stumbled upon you months ago. And I hope to see this channel grow so much in the future!!!
I know this video is old but uh 😅 I just had to comment this and hope you guys see it so you know that there is someone (and others too) that adore your content. So keep up the great work! Now off to binge on your video's (again) 😊
I really like this video, thank you so much!
okay, it's been decided that this is my fav youtube channel
And, of course, great video. Your videos really put into words many ideas of BTS I couldn't quite express, so thank you. 💜
Thank you for this video!💜💜💜
thank you!!
I saw someone on Twitter say that bts faked mental illness and depression. It disgusted me, they went onto say how armys are feeding into the lies and how we're just "14-year-old girls that get turned on my chinese men" their tweets were later reported and blocked. But still, it was disgusting and I hope they have matured and become more respectful. bts has helped not only me but thousands of people with their mental health and even just making their day a bit better and I hope people understand how much they mean to us and do the research before commenting on it.
Pls keep it up Elliot!!!
Thank you for telling your story. Love ourselves peace 💜
thank you!!
thanks for making this video 👏💜
thanks for supporting :)
Thank you so much for the work you put into this. I needed to hear that 😭😭. It's like you're taking the thoughts out of my head and the words out of my mouth. And now I actually aspire to have a conversation with you one day 😁. First time I'm seeing this channel, but definitely subscribing. Love you from Africa.
Hi, I just wanted to say that I found your channel today and I love the content that you produce, and this video especially helped me understand my struggles and myself better. So thank you so much, I am your fan now 💜💜
you are so hard working and too underrated
Why don’t your videos have more views
Showing this to my mom, cause if there's anything that's could change her insanely idealistic, typical Indian societal ideals of "just study hard to get into a good college and you'll have a good (and happy) future ahead of you" it's THIS.
Hers is such a simplistic and out-of-date view of the changing times and what's worse is that she's one of those entitled, patronising adults who think they're very aware of the millennial condition, that they "unDeRStaNd wHAt oUr TeeNAgeRs aRE goiNg tHRouGh" and "blah-blah-blah mental stress blah-blah-blah anxiety blah-blah-blah pressure of studies" and "yOu nEEd tO SeE A tHeraPisT" and at the same time ironically try to trivialise our problems by providing a REASON for it. Like studies or society or (and yes they actually believe it) "rELAtiOnshiP iSsuEs". They actually try to find a REASON for depression and anxiety, as if it's not a thing on its own but rather a SYMPTOM of something bad and people living a "good" and "unproblematic" life aren't really supposed to have it.
They will pay a fortune to take their kids to therapists and buy a cartful of medicine and prescriptions, but somehow wouldn't treat them as perfectly sane humans who just want some empathy and understanding and want to be heard and UNDERSTOOD with an open mind.
Give the man all the likes. :D great research!
thank you!
I'm 21+ and I agree