@@Dragonix135 I’m not saying it would’ve been likely, but he had other options to deal with those things. At the point when Futaba made her assist it was necessary in a very literal sense.
@@SunLovinSolaire nah... Life wall is the literal best skill the lavenza fight. To deal with that megidolaon he just to dodge and well rng is just as fair as it can be about that part. Futaba is good not gonna lie, but Haru did most of the job and the fight would be even more difficult that already is with a team.
@@Dragonix135 I’m not disagreeing with any of those points, but the thing I’m saying is it still would’ve been POSSIBLE without Haru doing as much as she does. Meanwhile Futaba’s team res was in a moment where, had it not happened, the run was over.
1:56 Okay, I just skipped forward in the video randomly to see a dizzy Mona survive both a massive lightning attack AND a chainsaw back-to-back. For someone with the worst defense in the game, Mona can be a freakin' tank when he wants to be :O
I only played vanilla p5 but in that game Morganas low defence was always completly unnoticeable to me. Meybe I am just to good at keeping damage liw with buffs debuffs and status effects.
Mona's def is not a problem to me, its his evasion rata the problem, he doesn't dogde anything (Plz someone tell me my game's bugged and he actually dodges almost everything) Edit: I even apply Sukunda and Sukukaja and he still doesn't dodge
This is impressive. It also sort of proves something else I have long suspected. Joker be TOO OP. Because with Joker, that last phase would have been done in like 5 or less turns. Despite that, the fact this is even possible without him shows how OP they get by semester 3. BUT Joker could do all this solo; and faster too. He's the only character in the game that is capable of being immune to virtually every kind of attack possible- at all times while always having the ability to exploit or create weakness in everyone else- also at all times. Without having to pay a dime for DLC either. They just give you broken AF unique skills early. But by level 25 or 26, You can pay out the ass with in game Yen for broken shite like Black Frost that can be turned into an absolute monster with skill cards and steamroll the rest of the game on Merciless in your first playthrough if you wanted to. Or just pay for the walking invincible tactical nuke with the initials IN - *OP* and just blast everything in the game with an attack capable of pretty much 1 shotting a god. P5R has such "balanced" combat and I love it. That's why I love these videos. I love seeing how it's possible to break the game by optimizing usage of every game mechanic available in the game. For all that grinding, you get to live out your power fantasy. It's satisfying AF.
Ann and Haru were the MVPs of this fight for me (outside of Joker ofc). High Energy is busted, Lavenza starts a lot of phases with fire, and concentrated Blazing Hell ended the ailment phase in one hit (I also used rage and read all of the Kichijoji books). Haru came in clutch with OSK during the crit phase (gave her an Apt Pupil accessory) and Life Wall stopping the chainsaw shenanigans.
I have been wanting to play this, but have been waiting on a portable version. I don't know whether to just get the Royal version, or just cheat and get the ps3 version on RPCS3. Edit: Portable, because I am out on the road alot.
The only problem I have when fighting levanza is, my personas are "super personas". The problem is that I completely forget to grind my teammates to lv 99.
It's actually a useful tactic against lavenza; baton pass to boost attack power (we desperately that boost), plus AoA's actually don't do a ton of damage against Lavenza. Regular move does far more.
@@LuckyFlanker13 just her. Lavenza has a hidden almighty resistance (if I'm not wrong) so all out attacks do around 100 damage even with max level and best weapons. Nothing else in the game has that.
@Merlin the M.S. Empathizer Says the guy whose overreacting for no reason, only has one video with the title spelt wrong, and got cocky because he insulted others.
I’ve held the strong belief that haru is a severely underrated party member strength wise and I’m using this video as evidence down the line in whatever argument i have with someone
@@bainz say who was the first member u maxed out? Personally i made my maths and think i'll do either makoto and yusuke, since one ia magic and the other phys it wont get in their ways to handle it?
@@Akaishu294 If you spend your time wisely, you can max all confidants in the whole game. Especially with Royal's additions, you could see yourself with every Confidant, all technical ranks up, baton pass levels for every party member and social stat maxed out with two weeks to spare on the final palace. I did it on new game Hard and Merciless mode so you'll definitely get away with it if you do it on a lower difficulty. So dont stress about who to max out first. Everyone is gonna get maxed out eventually. Just use the characters you like.
I wonder if it would be possible to mod the game so that Joker gets one of Makoto's personas, since I think She would be deputy if Joker was absent for whatever reason.
Lavenza is only neutral to Nuke during a few turns in Phase 4, Checkmate costs 3x more SP than Debilitate and isn't needed bc single target, casting Rage is a better ailment than Forget bc it lowers defense. I would've brought her in, but it would've used up turns without making a difference
So the answer is no, you couldn't beat her without Joker, since you needed Joker to survive her Megidolan lol. Though if the RNG would've worked in your favor for those crits, you could've
Hey, how exactly can so many party members have spell master/ali dance/arms master? I know you can get it through the jazzclub, but that's only one person, right?
How and why does the Megidolaon do so much damage?!?! Do you need Enduring Soul/Endure/Circle of Sadness/etc. to survive? I haven't ever done Lavenza boss fight so I don't know. Also why is Lavenza bullying Ryuji lol
How did you get spell/arms masters for all your party members instead of just 1 because I know you can get 1 arms and one spell master if you go to the jazz club
Never use showtimes against Lavenza sure fire way of losing the fight sometimes I think the game brings up showtimes at the wrong time, not bad battle here, and never do all out attacks those get weaker as the game goes on and do less damage.
Though showtimes are not recommended at all in this fight, I would be satisfied with Akechi's & Joker's as the finishing blow. Just need to keep track of HP and RNG.
Just a question, what persona did Joker have ? I guess he must have had one that was immune/resistant to most things, like Mara, but fire wasn't effective, so... Which one ?
Can you explain the jazz club ? If I boosted akechi in it how do I get he's states back ? Will it be on robin hood or loki ? If he leraned another skill how to get it back ?
About the jazz club, what days should I bring which characters? I'm starting my 3rd playthrough and would like to know so I can start maxing out my teammate's persona stats. Do I bring them to the jazz club when they have their second awakenings or when they still are with their starting personas? Thanks
Party members can be brought anytime, the stats gains will apply to all their Personas. There's a good guide to Jazz Club days here: samurai-gamers.com/persona-5/jazz-jin-bar-guide/
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Lavenza became obsessed with murdering Ryuji, but he endured all those Panta Rhei and Vacuum Wave like a champion.
Ryuji: (Exist)
Lavenza: ... I feel offended.
(1 Minute Later)
Ryuji: Laven-- "Vacuum Wave" za.. "Panta Rhei" stop- "Panta Rhei" usin-- "Vacuum Wave" wind-- "Vacuum Wave" attacks..-- "Panta Rhei".
Lavenza: WHY WON'T YOU DIE?!!
Taking it like a champ
You forgot trying to end him with a chainsaw
Lavenza (sounds of pain) I’ve come to negotiate (sounds of a teenager experiencing hell on earth)
i realize it's kind of off topic but does anyone know a good site to stream new series online?
Ryuji: *exist*
Lavenza: "And I took that personally"
also lavenza : "nothing personal"
@@bumega1208 “it’s noting personal, kid”
Oracle/Futaba: "So-and-so is on low health! HEAL THEM!"
Joker: "Can't you see I am busy doing *nothing?!*"
Joker: "Can you not see the fucks I give?"
^^ wow, how edgy is this guy, huh?
@@jameswent48 not at all
@@ihavekalashnikovyoudomath9275 he gives 3. 3. thats all. 3.
Ryuji confirmed most durable member of the Phantom Theives
I’d be confused since he is the most hard headed member
I mean, remember that time he took a vorpal blade attack to the face when the phantom thieves busted into Maruki's tower? He's Heckin *built.*
@@justjoking5252 I mean he is an ex athlete
No, he has nanomachines
Tank to end all tanks!
Joker takes a nap standing up while everyone fights
Joker uses the power of friedship to defeat lavenza.
Joker uses friendship to defeat Lavenza
@@lucid._.dreamr6777"Friedship my favorite ship." I wonder if that ship is tasty.
Ryuji: Exists
Everyone: No
Sumire was practically begging joker to help at the last stage of the fight lol
Can't say it's not in character for her.
HEYOOOOOOOOOOO
ryuji's a fucking champ ngl
Man, final guard being used up so quickly made me anxious but Futaba came in clutch with that ultimate support
"Futaba = MVP"
Haru doing most of the damage and spamming Life Wall during the fight:
Am I a joke to you?
Challenge would’ve failed right at the end if not for the “Ultimate Support.”
@@SunLovinSolaire yeah but he wouldn't reach the end phase without haru reflecting all the damage
@@Dragonix135 I’m not saying it would’ve been likely, but he had other options to deal with those things. At the point when Futaba made her assist it was necessary in a very literal sense.
@@SunLovinSolaire nah... Life wall is the literal best skill the lavenza fight. To deal with that megidolaon he just to dodge and well rng is just as fair as it can be about that part. Futaba is good not gonna lie, but Haru did most of the job and the fight would be even more difficult that already is with a team.
@@Dragonix135 I’m not disagreeing with any of those points, but the thing I’m saying is it still would’ve been POSSIBLE without Haru doing as much as she does. Meanwhile Futaba’s team res was in a moment where, had it not happened, the run was over.
So...Haru is absolute top tier with that life wall, eh?
Love to see it.
Haru was so upset ab not having screen time in vanilla, she took her anger out by carrying the fight against lavenza lmao.
1:56 Okay, I just skipped forward in the video randomly to see a dizzy Mona survive both a massive lightning attack AND a chainsaw back-to-back. For someone with the worst defense in the game, Mona can be a freakin' tank when he wants to be :O
He would’ve died he just withstood the attack.
@@braydo677 I mean, isn't that how withstanding works?
I only played vanilla p5 but in that game Morganas low defence was always completly unnoticeable to me. Meybe I am just to good at keeping damage liw with buffs debuffs and status effects.
Mona's def is not a problem to me, its his evasion rata the problem, he doesn't dogde anything (Plz someone tell me my game's bugged and he actually dodges almost everything)
Edit: I even apply Sukunda and Sukukaja and he still doesn't dodge
@@nitrothekiller2139 nah he doesn't dodge shit, his defense is trash, and he has the least amount of health then the other party members
This is impressive. It also sort of proves something else I have long suspected. Joker be TOO OP. Because with Joker, that last phase would have been done in like 5 or less turns. Despite that, the fact this is even possible without him shows how OP they get by semester 3. BUT Joker could do all this solo; and faster too. He's the only character in the game that is capable of being immune to virtually every kind of attack possible- at all times while always having the ability to exploit or create weakness in everyone else- also at all times. Without having to pay a dime for DLC either. They just give you broken AF unique skills early. But by level 25 or 26, You can pay out the ass with in game Yen for broken shite like Black Frost that can be turned into an absolute monster with skill cards and steamroll the rest of the game on Merciless in your first playthrough if you wanted to. Or just pay for the walking invincible tactical nuke with the initials IN - *OP* and just blast everything in the game with an attack capable of pretty much 1 shotting a god. P5R has such "balanced" combat and I love it. That's why I love these videos. I love seeing how it's possible to break the game by optimizing usage of every game mechanic available in the game. For all that grinding, you get to live out your power fantasy. It's satisfying AF.
You deserve likes for this comment tbh
poor makoto and akechi with that zero screentime
Good, they had enough already
@Pineapple_くま!! Nah, Sumire babyyyy.
And my man Akechi.
@Pineapple_くま!! NOOOOOOOOOO.
I wasn’t supposed to be a spoiler SAMUEL.
DAMN IT
@Nobody Harus own arc got cut in half for Morganas insecurity.
Who needs those two little shits.
I watched this at 2x speed for the fun of it. I think the best part was Lyn's scuffed singing.
*"wIpE the out kOicihi"*
Still somehow sounds good tho.
Ryuji: Aight! Now it's my time to shine!
Everyone: RYUJI!!! GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE!!!
Joker: ... =_=
Lavenza: ... So anyway, i started winding.
I did a no Joker run in P5R and this video was my guide to beating Lavenza. Thank you very much!
Man, Haru was the lynchpin. She really got her screen time
Lavenza just self-destructed herself.
Ann and Haru were the MVPs of this fight for me (outside of Joker ofc). High Energy is busted, Lavenza starts a lot of phases with fire, and concentrated Blazing Hell ended the ailment phase in one hit (I also used rage and read all of the Kichijoji books). Haru came in clutch with OSK during the crit phase (gave her an Apt Pupil accessory) and Life Wall stopping the chainsaw shenanigans.
Well, atleast we know who you don't like bringing to the Jazz Club that often ;)
I read it as can you beat joker without lavenza and idk why
There should be no reason why I found so funny
I mean, yeah
And here i thought Ann's gonna have a normal Christmas costume, miss me with that shit
I have been wanting to play this, but have been waiting on a portable version. I don't know whether to just get the Royal version, or just cheat and get the ps3 version on RPCS3.
Edit: Portable, because I am out on the road alot.
@@Joe_334 Royal is by far The Best Persona 5 Experience.
Aoi go for Royal.
@@Joe_334 Try out PS Remote Play. It's available on androids, though it might not be available on iOS.
@@Manavine it’s on iOS I’m on iOS and I got it
"Violet's in real trouble! Hurry, heal her!"
Joker: *GUARD*
The only problem I have when fighting levanza is, my personas are "super personas". The problem is that I completely forget to grind my teammates to lv 99.
No bc without joker they all die of sadness
This may be the first time I’ve seen someone say no to an all out attack.
It's actually a useful tactic against lavenza; baton pass to boost attack power (we desperately that boost), plus AoA's actually don't do a ton of damage against Lavenza. Regular move does far more.
@@LuckyFlanker13 is that true of all bosses or just her?
@@AverageEggmonEnthusiast dunno, TBH. It’s been a while
@@LuckyFlanker13 just her. Lavenza has a hidden almighty resistance (if I'm not wrong) so all out attacks do around 100 damage even with max level and best weapons. Nothing else in the game has that.
Seeing you pass up my favorite showtime three times was painful, but I understand why it had to be done . . .
Why?
I assume you know, but it had Akira in, of course he skipped it, but I bet you knew already
@Merlin the M.S. Empathizer Eh...no I guess?
@Merlin the M.S. Empathizer weirdo
@Merlin the M.S. Empathizer Says the guy whose overreacting for no reason, only has one video with the title spelt wrong, and got cocky because he insulted others.
Joker: Oh Magic Conch Shell, what do I do to defeat this Loli Boss fight?
Conch Shell: Nothing
Joker: THE SHELL HAS SPOKEN!
Magic pain glove
Joker ironically killed her with the reflect of life wall
“Without joker”
My butt😂
What an amazing vid ! As min-maxer myself, I only have respect for those builds! Love the conent, keep goin bro :)
Haru: this should help
Also haru: *makes enemy have anger*
I’ve held the strong belief that haru is a severely underrated party member strength wise and I’m using this video as evidence down the line in whatever argument i have with someone
Joker observes his team getting physical abused and their spirits crushed by professional executor lady.
was that enduring soul i just saw
Damn I feel bad for Ryuji lmao. He didn't deserve this
6:14 Ok is it bad that I didn’t know futaba could debuff enemy’s until this video
she doesn't do it very often so not really. think it happened like once when I played vanilla p5
@@notebeans3134 ngl that makes it worse to me because I just assumed that was a thing new to royal
Ok is it bad that you didn’t know how to spell “enemies”?
@@jameswent48 Bro it’s the internet spelling doesn’t matter
enemies*. enemy’s what?
Wow bro nice work as always, keep up the great content! hopefully you'll cover strikers as well when its out!
I lost brain cells when Ann used diamond dust cause her persona is a fire type
Me too, like what the fu**?
I love that Morgana costume lol
Lavenza heard about how the other girls did an All-Out-Attack on Ryuji and clearly she felt left out.
If only persona 5 was this (rather) easy, ailment tech, crits, it would be so lovely
Yo, how many hours do you have on this game?
(Also, great content man)
Like 380 hours itz was the same to me :)
Too much time probably aha, this is at the end of a 4th playthrough. And thanks!
@@bainz say who was the first member u maxed out?
Personally i made my maths and think i'll do either makoto and yusuke, since one ia magic and the other phys it wont get in their ways to handle it?
@@Akaishu294 If you spend your time wisely, you can max all confidants in the whole game. Especially with Royal's additions, you could see yourself with every Confidant, all technical ranks up, baton pass levels for every party member and social stat maxed out with two weeks to spare on the final palace. I did it on new game Hard and Merciless mode so you'll definitely get away with it if you do it on a lower difficulty. So dont stress about who to max out first. Everyone is gonna get maxed out eventually. Just use the characters you like.
@@guthetanuki256 i was talking about the stats in jazz club tho, i already play vanilla, just waitin ps5 to be in stock to play royal
I cant see haru's jiggle when using item in that santa uniform
Ew
Imagine doing this without items that would just be torture
Futuba and sumire trait MVP , but evade and Ali dance do they stack
So boosts from the Jazz Club are permanent? If so then holy shit I really need to invest more time there :O
Lol no. They get reset in NG+.
Mr joker please help we're dying. Joker: then parish
you are insane dude
I wonder if it would be possible to mod the game so that Joker gets one of Makoto's personas, since I think She would be deputy if Joker was absent for whatever reason.
Violet: Let's Dance.
She use Sword Dance hahaha
I am thou, Thou art I, thou shall spend 5.99 to awake Thou’s third persona.
I've always said this over and over. Futaba, Kasumi(re) and haru are equally best, this simply proved my statement. Especially at the end
In combat or what
Noice he back
Lavenza's expression in the thumbnail: "Am I a joke to you?"
Lavenza tried to claim Ryuji after Shidos Palace, where he was supposed to die.
No on talking about how much Haru dodging
Futaba’s timing was perfect
Technically speaking Joker is commanding them so..
Joker like I fought her too many times man it’s time for y’all to experience proper punishment
I thought Lavenza instantly ended the fight when you switched party members mid-battle. How come it doesn’t happen here?
Kinda late to respond but Lavenza has never had this fail condition. Switching party members has always been allowed.
I never thought that Life Wall could be so useful lmao
Fitting for the season
wow, talk about luck at the end there. Futaba for the win. but man Lavenza had it out for Ryuji.
Imma have to try this
Joker did contribute this battle. He bought the items anyways! Joker still true MVP
What did Ryuji do to make her want him dead
Lavenza's voice is hotter than Ann hahahaha
In comparison you make me look like a wimp for beating her with only Joker.
Nice
snowcat morgana is adorable
YOU MADMAN
lazenza takes more nuke damage so why didnt u use makoto? she also has checkmate(which does debilitate) and an ailment skill
Lavenza is only neutral to Nuke during a few turns in Phase 4, Checkmate costs 3x more SP than Debilitate and isn't needed bc single target, casting Rage is a better ailment than Forget bc it lowers defense. I would've brought her in, but it would've used up turns without making a difference
@@bainz ohhh i see thanks for replying. im definitely using that info in my playthrough
Wait, do jazz club stat buffs stay when you do new game plus
late but yea, along with the stat buffs joker gets from the gym, temple and his room
Yes, including skills
The stat buffs stack as well
Futaba Saves The Day
So the answer is no, you couldn't beat her without Joker, since you needed Joker to survive her Megidolan lol. Though if the RNG would've worked in your favor for those crits, you could've
You could’ve what?
How the hell does Ann have diamond dust?
Diamond Dust Lily accessory
I was going to ask the same.
How did you get Spell Master and Arms Master on multiple characters? I thought you can only have it on a character once per playthrough
@Nobody how many play throughs would that be?
You can get Arms/Spell Master on 1 teammate per playthrough, relearn them at the Jazz Club. This was at the end of a 4th playthrough
Ann using ice attacks??
Hey, how exactly can so many party members have spell master/ali dance/arms master? I know you can get it through the jazzclub, but that's only one person, right?
You can relearn Jazz Club skills at the Church in NG+ then choose a new party member to give the skills to
@@bainz oh wow, I wish I knew that on my third playthrough lol! Thanks
What's that accesary violet is wearing do? And where do I get it?
I’m pretty sure that’s the one from Itemizing Raoul and it has +2 stats and Insta Heal
@@ericalvelo3157 I'll check
It gives Insta-Heal, you itemize Raoul. An alternative is the shopping channel on 1/15
@@bainz ok, tho I don't got raoul, but ok
Does not count. Joker killed her in the end.
The 1 x 5 speed up is funny
Hol' Up. Joker Isnt Allowed To Repel Right? But Haru Applies A Wall To Everyone. So Doesnt He Technically Contribute Some Damage To Lavenza?
Welp, blame life wall I guess, you'd have to re route if you don't want joker to accidentally repel
the point was he couldnt apply the reflect not that reflect couldn't happen
Yeah, I guess Life Wall has that effect. I meant more than Joker couldn't have a 3x Repel damage Persona on him the entire fight
@@bainzmakes sense
How and why does the Megidolaon do so much damage?!?! Do you need Enduring Soul/Endure/Circle of Sadness/etc. to survive? I haven't ever done Lavenza boss fight so I don't know.
Also why is Lavenza bullying Ryuji lol
funny how joker repelled
Haru carried tho...LMFAO RYUJI
How did you get spell/arms masters for all your party members instead of just 1 because I know you can get 1 arms and one spell master if you go to the jazz club
Multiple playthroughs
Never use showtimes against Lavenza sure fire way of losing the fight sometimes I think the game brings up showtimes at the wrong time, not bad battle here, and never do all out attacks those get weaker as the game goes on and do less damage.
Though showtimes are not recommended at all in this fight, I would be satisfied with Akechi's & Joker's as the finishing blow. Just need to keep track of HP and RNG.
Hmm, ik it's alr pretty long but, I think it should be auto since direct command means joker give contribution to them about what to do
Joker has burn-out stop attacking him
Just a question, what persona did Joker have ? I guess he must have had one that was immune/resistant to most things, like Mara, but fire wasn't effective, so... Which one ?
Can you explain the jazz club ? If I boosted akechi in it how do I get he's states back ? Will it be on robin hood or loki ? If he leraned another skill how to get it back ?
Stat gains from the Jazz Club carry over into NG+, for Akechi it affects both his Personas. Jazz Club skills can be relearned at the Church
@@bainz
Thanks so much
can you beat lavenza without joker before megidolaon?
What ?
@@Honest-King i think he means can you kill lavenza before the op megidolaon hits
I have megidolaon
How do you get Ryuji and Haru at 999 hp?
Yooo that nrg
Damn
About the jazz club, what days should I bring which characters? I'm starting my 3rd playthrough and would like to know so I can start maxing out my teammate's persona stats. Do I bring them to the jazz club when they have their second awakenings or when they still are with their starting personas? Thanks
Party members can be brought anytime, the stats gains will apply to all their Personas. There's a good guide to Jazz Club days here: samurai-gamers.com/persona-5/jazz-jin-bar-guide/
Thanks for the reply! Great video too