Can You Beat Persona 5 Royal While Only Using The Girls?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.พ. 2022
- Instead of doing a Joker-only run, I've decided to do a girls-only run as an alternative, hope you enjoy it!
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Edit: So looking back at this after 2 years, I was definitely being lenient on whether this run is possible or not. The run is definitely impossible to beat with just the girls since you have moments like Joker only being able to fight Shido in the final phase or that one area in Niijima’s palace.
So you did a Harem only run?
Where’s the Persona 5 no main protagonist challenge run
I noticed you forgot about final guard until the end.
Still a fun video!
Honestly I was also thinking of the rule that the MC can only use feminine Personas/Persona only of the arcana as the females, but this was a fun watch nonetheless
I'm actually doing a playthrough of Nocturne with only feminine demons. Its tough but fun.
Can you beat persona 5 as a playboy solo joker, female persona only, only do social links with the girls.
That would have been cool!
Isis was my go-to healer, Lilith annihilated Shido's Palace, and Kaguya with Reflect Physical, Null Bless, and Null Curse made the Kasumi and Akechi fights a joke.
That would’ve been a very hard rush to get a Silky as ,other then Carmen, Silky is (I’m pretty sure) the only female persona that you can get before the distorted tower section
The boys: are not allowed to do anything other than revive Ann until queen joins the party.
Also the boys: *guard*
Megidolaon gets triggered when you take too long in the bossfight, it happened with me and M****** on the last palace too, basically just a team wipe to reset you
Same
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@@cryguy0000 the calling card of 87
Marsh?
Its after 40 turns that M starts using it but when he does, thats all hell ever do.
WTF!? first i found out that you can actually be rejected by some of the female confidents and now i learned Wakaba can use megidoloan????? How much shit is hidden in this game?
the confidant part is only the adults, each one has 3 decisions somewhere before rank 9 and you have to choose at least one of those during their confidants or they will reject you
I just cannot believe the megidoloan part, I saw it in the video but I would want further evidence, it’s so absurd that when he said the alternatives I was like “it’s definitely not going to be that one”
I’m so much in disbelief I don’t know what to say anymore: is he pulling a big prank or is his game glitched? Does anyone else including the developers know about this?
If the answer is no and yes then it must have some crazy crazy condition to activate.
@@edwardsuou She can use megidoloan. in fact she spams it after a point, in terms of the condition it's based on time in the fight. hope this helped.
@@chimamire2011 apparently she's the only boss in the game who does this except for the velvet room boss which is interesting, I wonder why they chose wakaba of all the bosses to include this on
@@devaccount7067 yeah I didn't say that since yk, spoiler
EXCUSE ME SHE CAN DO THAT!? I've never ever seen her use that skill even after getting platinum in both games and doing over 10 runs each
Yeah, turns out that happens if the fight takes too long.
BRO THATS WHAT IM SAYING
same, like w h a t
Yeah, i was soo suprise, maybe that hapens if you take too long in the battle
@@MagicMarcos
Omg, now i'm glad I never took that long to beat Wakaba. When I played p5 for the first time, I repeatedly got game overs to her because she always landed Despair on either Joker when I had no healing items for statuses or both Makoto and Joker since she's the only one in the party that can heal Despair without items. And I got a game over due to Wakaba in the easy difficulty too. So when I found out Wakaba could use Megidolaon in the fight, I was mentally dying
If you take to long on any given boss fight they start spamming megidolaon. Happened to me during the third semester boss fight.
12:25 i think that unlike base Persona 5, Royal doesnt allow many uses of the ballista since Futaba now reflects attacks on the boss
you can actually use the ballista again, it just takes a while and maybe you have to be actively dealing damage. i had it happen to me on my normal playthrough, though the use of megidolan is news to me
Its actually based on what you answer with, if you answer wrong it will take longer
@@_danu Guess someone wanted to be mean to Futaba
The reflects occur on up to 3 scripted occasions (Nose Dive, plus both of the Sphinx "riddles" if answered correctly), while the ballista summons occur after the riddles. The first "riddle" occurs on the turn after the preemptive Nose Dive, while the second occurs if you bring her down to 25% HP while she's airborne after being downed once (or if you bring her below 25% while she's down the first time but don't manage to bring her to 1 HP before she gets up).
After being downed the second time, Cognitive Wakaba stays down for longer than the first time, and it might even be possible that she cannot get back up beyond this point.
I was going to say "Damn you went into the Holy Grail fight at lvl 90? Overleveled much?"
And then I remembered (I forgot for only half a second) that you were playing with only half your party and Joker isn't one of the two.
..... yeah you're definitely going to need some levels
Before the Holy Grail, I was already at 98 with the whole party. (Trick, even though we can no longer exploit Reaper's flu despair: Reaper with solo Joker + Omnipotent Orb + Mishima max-rank skill - backup party members gets the same EXP as the active party - that means Joker each time gets full 72050 EXP, and by extension, ALL party members get full 72050 EXP each time.)
// edit: oh, and Izanagi-no-Okami DLC Persona with Concentrate -> Myriad Truths sequence.
I was lvl 99 my party before the holy grail
@@TheLukasz032
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The Cognitive Wakaba thing happened to me the first time I played Royal. It seems like the ballista not spawning is a glitch exclusive to Royal.
It’s not a glitch. It’s a feature based on how you answer, and that Futaba now reflects her attacks.
@@catalyst539 It is a glitch, it can happen regardless of how you answer the question and has nothing to do with Futaba's shield
One thing to say: COFFEE. You can't use Joker, so literally just grind out Lovers and Hierophant confidant or whatever else will help provide benefits to the girls and brew coffee every night you can't do anything else helpful for the girls. SP will never be a problem if you have over 40 master coffee or even regular coffee. It becomes a joke lol it makes things super easy, making 1 day Palace runs very possible
There are people who don't do palaces in one day?
You can easily do one day palaces on hard mode without using any sp items (and killing every enemy)
The dungeons in Persona games aren't that hard, I've always done Tartarus, the TV world and palaces all in one day on hard mode cause it frees up more time for other things
I think i actually saw Wakaba use Megidoloan in my first Royal play through since that boss took me absolutely forever to beat
when i did the Yaldabaoth bossfight in P5 i lost when i had the boys, but i won when i had all the girls. Makoto's Marakukaja and Ann's Matarunda saved me too many times
Surprised no one knew about megidolaon since that happened to me in my ng+ run, but I thought it was some sort of ng+ exclusive ability so I never thought much of it till now
That’s between unlikely and impossible, nothing in NG+ is different from the main game.
"Having all three of them is normal" - after all, nobody actually wants Skull, Fox, or Mona in the party.
expect me
Thats obviously not true.
Mona, yes, the other two, i end up using until okumura's palace, where theyre much less useful, where i end up swapping em out for the gals
Which is fine since i run support jokers all the time anyways, so they can focus attacks
Ryuji is best boy ill not hear a bad word.
I died to Maruki's Megidolaon, even though I just needed one more round! I later got an Endure skill, whcih have me the one more turn I needed. I think many SMT bosses use a buffed Megidolaon if you take too long to beat them.
An all girl team, which was just a coincidence, is how i beat merciless lavenza. Haru with ring of greed for setting up joker in phase 1, technicals in phase 2, crits in phase 3 and barriers if needed in phase 4 shes something of the mvp, kasumi for crits and baton passes to whoever needs it (but especially to haru on phase 2 so she can ring of greed herself for big technical hits) all fight but also phase 3 crit buff with brave step, makoto to buff defense and heal, with pulinpa ring to set technicals for phase 2 and joker to deal high damage in phase 1, support by buffing haru and debuffing lavenza with debilitate in phase 2, crits in phase 3 and wind damage in phase 4(she swaps between two personas and each have different resistance, though niether are resistant to wind. I used vishnu.) with a persona that has endure/soul in case you dont do enough and she uses her 1 shot, in phase 4 endure procs on it and youll live letting you finish the fight trivially. Of course, futaba taken to jazz club a bunch for the maximized chance of using abilities
This was a really fun video to watch! Looking forward to more challenge runs! :)
This game has a weird obsession with Megidolaon nuking when you take too long🤣
Is every boss just Lavenza in disguise?
I didnt even know that was a thing against Madarame. Learn something new every day.
Rewatching this, I realized there was an easier way of dealing with Maruki. Haru could use her 3rd awakening skill, Life Wall, and reflect his Raining Seeds ability back at Maruki and Azathoth since reflect damage does not get reduced by the tentacles.
I actually did it and recorded it in P3P for funzees, it was not too hard but I had fun. I also only used female personas because it makes more sense. I honestly want to do BOYS only in P4, since I feel it would be more challenging than girls only in P4 in particular
True the girls are easily the best party members in 4
@@dogecoin9562 you've got Chie, who is around 2nd or 3rd in overall damage in the party not counting Yu, (I'm not really sure if her or Kanji do more, I'm guessing their damage is pretty close tho) you've got Yukiko, with her damage potential + support, and you've got Naoto, who is a mixed bag honestly. I've only played original P4 but I know how good her golden skillset is, but even in vanilla, she at least has okay damage against bosses + has hama and mudo for encounters. I wouldn't say for sure the girls put together are the #1 best together, but they are a strong setup, probably slightly better than just the boys since most of the boys' support skills can be handled by Yu so the girls would be fine without smelly boys. But hey, maybe when I do the run I'll find that I'm wrong, and the boys put together would outclass the girls + Yu, either way I'll be having fun so not complaining
I would say the opposite. In 4, an all girls party is much harder than an all boys party. Particularly because of Chie. She has a really low defense for a physical character in a game where physical skills cost hp. And Naoto lacks Amp skills is harms her usefulness as a mage.
@@Watermage2 I see what you mean, but while Chie may have low defence but she has good phys damage, especially at endgame. Chie wouldn't really be that useful early or mid game but she could just throw items or give Tarukajas to Yu or Yuki instead, so I feel you'd be fine even with Chie. Honestly the only thing making the game more challenging would be lack of 4 people in the party for a long time, but hey, this channel is living proof that the game can be solo'ed so I imagine both boys only or girls only would be manageable. I mostly care more about how fun a challenge run of these games will be more than how hard they will be, and since I did a girls only run of P3, and in my P5R challenge runs I had the girls as my main party, since they bounce well off each other. So most of the "challenge" in my eventual P4 boys only run is getting used to switching things up. I might do girls only after that just to see how different it is though
I have over 800 recorded hours in Persona 5: Royal alone, and an additional 300+ in base P5. Not once in ANY playthrough had Wakaba used Megidolaon once. What kind of sorcery did Futaba pull out of her palace to do this is beyond me to be honest.
Sowwy! :) 12:38
Again, you can show what you did in your version of run. Cause my version is a literal Saw trap.
I mean this run also works as an alternative for that when you think about it. I don’t really care anymore now that I got this run.
So hyped for this!
Once the fifth rule is introduced, it turns from girls only to lesbian third wheel
Joker:
“Ya know, I’m something of a girl myself” 😏
You had the perfect set up for a 2 girls one cup joke......... lol the first video I've ever an of yours... instant sub lol.
thanks man your videos really helped get my mind off things
I was like "dlc is allowed? Damn that's broken, you can just myriad truths your way through the game..... waaait a minute"😂
towards like the final half of the game my team was literally joker, makoto, ann, and haru. It worked surprisingly well for a while, and the only reason i changed it for the final 2 bosses (final 2 for royal) was because i kinda needed ryuji’s physical attacks
Ay great vid u got a new sub
Bro you content is highly underated ! >:(
I never knew wakaba could use megidolaon
Here's a modded twist on this run: Joker is allowed thanks to the P5R Female Protagonist mod. However, to compensate for the advantages this provides: only 1 additional party member is allowed to act/be deployed in most fights (instead of 2 in this run), Joker herself may only use Pixie when possible, and DLC/Gift content is banned (with the possible exception of cosmetic-only costumes and battle BGM).
Skill Cards are allowed, but Velvet Room access is at runner discretion.
The run starts with Joker's awakening; however, Morgana is given a free pass up until Ann's awakening due to having forced actions in multiple tutorial battles...and most likely being necessary for healing in the battle *after* the scripted defeat against the Bicorn bunch.
NOW we're asking the real questions.
Awesome work keep going
Right so I had something similar happen to me with maruki where after a while he ended up using megidoan and my freind told me that he apparently does that after around 50 turns so maybe other bosses have that feature cause when I saw the megidoan answer I immediately thought of that so it might be a thing to kill u off if your just rushing the bosses
Honestly this run could have been more interesting if items and additional skills weren't allowed. Just seems like that alone would balance out using 3 girls near the end.
P5 challenge runs are SO fun
The Waka thing might be similar to the Velvet Twins/Lavenza Bossfights
If you haven't dealt a certain amount of damage at a certain trigger, your party gets one shot. I don't understand the purpose behind doing it in the Wakaba fight, but she clearly can't use an AOT like the blue girls
Here are a few Tipps you could have done to make the run more optimal.
Both of those tricks also mean you should delay doing Futaba’s palace until near the end of the month.
The Wakaba fight can easily be cheesed by just spamming the tertakarn spell. Which can be bought at Takemi’s as a consumable once you max out her confidant. You can unlock this once you get charm 4 and do the mementos request during the moth where Futaba’s palace would be done.
You should try to speed run the Justice confidant, since at rank 4 it unlocks the Jazz club. Not just is it a great idea for a date but the extra stats and moves really help any run where you focus more on specific teammates to do the heavy lifting
Queen, Noir, Violet were pretty much my endgame party.
The wiki got updated and added megidolaon to her moveset list
Sometimes I’m so stupid not to use utility abilities enough in characters. I’ll make sure I start using dormina more. Now that I finished the first palace.
I lost to the final Royal boss so many times in my original playthrough in 2020 to megidolaon. It was so annoying, didnt realise Wakaba and the other bosses could use it too
Heh, thought this would've been Persona 3 portable run, but was suprised:)
13:38 I remembered this happening out of nowhere on my third playthrough of the game 😂😂😂 like I don’t even think I was stalling for time I was just fighting the boss like I normally did and boom MEGIDOLAN 😭😭😭
If you allow boys to revive they are doing something and it makes this challenge easier. Still there was no much doubt you would manage. Just a little 'cause okumura.
The funny thing is if u just use physical ointment she does 1000's of damage to herself so just keep spamming tetrakarn/physical ointments
just curious but would anyone know if there is a button on the ps4 controllers that makes you start scrolling in the inventory without even touching the controller and makes it so you aren't able to press on any persona skills in battle because other than the scrolling and personas the game is playing normally i've redownloaded the game as well to see if that works but it's still doing it
I played on easy difficulty for my first playthrough of this game, and during the Wakaba fight I never got a second ballista shot at all. That fight took me over 6 hours and numerous attempts
I purchased P5s Last year and didn’t try it yet (got distracted by work, universal and Pokemon masters EX/Brilliant Diamond) I’m glad I didn’t need to pay attention to every member but are persona bonds with some males important ? and do I need specific shadows for the endgame cause I personally want to keep using Arsane and Carmine.
All confidants are important in their own ways. For a run like this you don’t have to do all of them. As for endgame, their are some pretty OP personas like Yoshitsune and such. A persona like Arsene was not made for endgame, but it’s still doable if you know how to make your Arsene op. There are people that have beaten the game with only Arsene, and even someone did an Arsene and Joker only.
Thanks, I read few guides and some mentioned I should save on different accounts before each dungeon in case I miss playing something important or my team was too weak, I’m trying normal mode for casual play so should I try multi accounts save to understand the game?
@@neoinfinity5204 It’s a pretty long game, so it’s up to you.
Ann Makoto Haru is already busted, if only we could change Joker for Violet that would be perfect
I played boys only a while back. It’s cool to see the opposite.
Edit cause I posted early. Just for funsies cause you get the 4 boys in palace 2, I banned female social links unless mandatory.
Nice video bro
This was a challenge??? I already did this on my first play through on “accident”
How about a challenge using the weaker stats?
An example would be like using Pixie-mostly a magical user, using strength and vice versa with a physical user with magic skills.
That way it’d be a bit harder and have to really think outside the box for it 😂
If you’re gonna use party members, use their weaker stat: Ann with Strength (so regular attacks or the accessories with physical skills), or Ryuji with Magic (same thing applies like Ann).
Or even One Element per Persona. Example- Oni with Physical skills and only physical skills, no healing, elements, etc., but passive skills are fine.
Can’t wait to see what you’ll do next! 👍👍
You made this a lot harder then it could have been since you never took your female teammates to the jazz club for the buff/debuff spells or concentrate.
i am on my 7th playthrough of persona 5 i did not knew SHE COULD DO THAT
I think Joker needs to attack in order for the ballista to work.
Every other time you described that the ballista didn't work, Joker was not allowed to do anything.
But when you finally desided to let him attack, the ballista worked.
The Megadolan is just in case people get softlocked on any enemy who nulls or drains phys.
Bang with another banger
13:38 -Margaret in P3P Flashback intensifies -
“Can you beat it with only the girls?” well I sure hope so because once I finish the medjed arc that’s what my team will be
Jokers not a girl tho
@@lordcommissar7813 he’s an honorary girly.
@@lordcommissar7813not when I’m done with him
Question, if you allow DLCs, then why don't you use the DLC accessories to help Ann especially through the early Palaces, like the Adhesive Accessory, and maybe one of the DLC ones also give Endure which might help Ann's survivability.
Edit: okay, so there's none that give Ann Endure, but there are those that give her evasion against crits and magic. Hm...
And... I admit i thought when it's Girls Only, it also means that you only do the Female confidants (i.e. no Ryuji and his Ambush)
I guess that could’ve helped for at least the first palace only. As for only doing female confidants, I actually was thinking of doing that, but I decided to do Ryuji’s confidant because at the end of the day, I only care about boss fights when it comes to these runs.
@@MagicMarcos hm... I see i see, so so pretty much did all female parth members confidant, plus Ryuji (which is an exception), Takemi, Hifumi, and i don't know who else
@@RosyMiranto I did all the female confidants. Ryuji, Akechi, and Maruki were the only male confidants I did
@@MagicMarcos alright, good to know... But why Akechi? I don't think you need to do his for the final semester as far as i know
@@RosyMiranto I still wanted to get the true ending lol
I forget how op ailments are
but how are you going to do that if have joker as your permanent member.?
After watching this
I went to check the wiki about Wakaba using megidolaon
Yay its in the wiki now
what a great challenge
The girls are the best teammates anyway... sometimes Ryuji, but fr, Ann, Makoto, and Haru were my constant team on merciless
Facts because once I gained Haru myself I didn’t notice at all till later how much I ran the all girls team. All together they’re so good
Yeah, unlike Persona 4 or 3, an all girl team is actually pretty viable in 5.
Nah, physical skills are far better than magic skills.
@@Sonicfan640 bro please tell me you're lying.
Physical drains your hp (even with me being at max HP), physical isn't as effective as using an enemy's weakness, physical is pretty easy and common for an enemy to reflect back at you. And although the only real point to use physical is to knock a shadow down, but as I said before, it can get reflected to you and knock down a teammate, letting the shadows get a one-more. The only physical attacks I used were the Lucky Lunch variations and maybe the severe or collosal physical damage attacks every once in a while if someone didn't have a beneficial element or if the shadow didn't have any weaknesses, because the game thinks that having no weaknesses equals fun difficulty, when all it does is waste your time. Sometimes it isn't worth using magic or losing HP I'd just default attack. I'd really like to hear what benefits physical has over magic.
Oh, and even with knocking a shadow with physical, hitting their weakness will knock them anyway. Physical is just a fallback for when you don't have a certain magic type
@@Sonicfan640 a lot of late game enemies nullify or just resist physical damage but early game fs
Makoto can use forget to cancel big bang order on okumura boss fight
Yea, as I said in 18:33
God almighty this type of video sounds funs but girls only doesn't really change from how i see people teams in final battles
guess who updated the wiki for ya
The 1v1 against Shido doesn't count because I can't do anything about this?
I don't remember that exception in your initial rules.
Do ,,Beating P5 while only using Morgana,Ryuji and Anne"
chad yu is proud of you.
I'm surprised you didn't do the Physical Ointment strat against Wakaba. That probably would have done enough damage, even without the second ballista.
I'm pretty sure I didn't have any, but if I did I probably only had 1
funny how you can encounter stuff like wakaba doing that by limiting yourself
MEGIDOLAON? IN FUTABAS DUNGEON?
Eyyy, glad to see my joke idea becoming reality. Can't wait to see the end result of all this. Ann for life!
Bosses use megidoloan as a time limit of sorts, if you take to long they insta kill you because yes
It's funny, when I fought against Sphynx Wakaba, the ballista didn't shoot her a second time. Maybe it's a Royal thing?
Apparently, Cognitive Wakaba Isshiki uses Megidolaon if she manages to have 100 actions during the boss fight, and after that, she will spam Megidolaon until you die. It's kinda funny that the Sphinx literally casts the equivalent of instadeath on you because you take too long.
There is one quest in royal that I think would be a challenge to complete with this I don't know if you did it I haven't watched the video yet
Alternate name for the run: The Simp Run
The ballista not going twice is a royal thing. Makes the fight much more difficult since it was pretty easy before since you literally just had to stall.
I have no clue why it went again. its not supposed to. you broke it congratulations 👍
6:50 um WHAT. Since when coukd u paint over the paintings??? I spent a good ten minutes dealing damage and getting rid of those things…. What is this
basically how i play all the time
Dude I got that ballista glitch on my first playthrough to.
Persona fans doing challenges on stuff that they don’t have
I'm currently doing a run that's the exact reverse of this
i have never heard of wakaba using MEGIDOLAON LMFAOO
Wait....what about the nue fight that you are forced to play with ryuji and joker only in madarame palace?
1:00
dont quote be but i think its like after 40~ turns she casts megidolan
wakaba has megidolaeon? what the heck? was that a turn timer?
It’s Girls Night!
remember when kamoshida uses myriad truthes
Why can she use that in the fourth place
That’s what I’m saying
You mean the beating persona 5 royal using the objectively better characters.