Ep:361 HYPERTENSION: REMISSION OFF BP MEDS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 มี.ค. 2024
- High blood pressure HYPERTENSION is very common BUT MOST DOCTORS CALL IT ESSENTIAL HYPERTENSION - we don’t know why but you have it, it will likely kill you and you will be on meds for the rest of your life. DR CYWES DISCUSSES METABOLIC HYPERTENSION AND HOW TO TREAT IT TO REMISSION OF MEDICATION. EVERY SENTENCE HAS A PEARL. THIS IS OUR PROGRAM AND HOW WE APPROACH METABOLIC HEALTH. NOT JUST WHAT YOU EAT, BUT CHANGING THE RELATIONSHIP AND YOUR BEHVIOR PATTERNS. Please leave comments.
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Best investigative Dr!!!
Wow! This is amazing. You will try anything if your life depends on it, so keep an open mind. Thank you Dr. Cywes.
Art and creativity is needed to be a successful in any profession. Scary, heck yes if I was in the same position. Interesting, wondering what the GLP 1 mechanism is in BP reduction.
Very informative video. The insurance companies need to get on board with this treatment for cases such as this.
Thank you! 😊
My brother started Zepbound - he needs it and was afraid of it, but he needed help and glad he started it. Plus trying to eat low carb more meat base. Thanks Dr Cywes for being the best!
I had a terrible experience with semaglutide, but at the time, I was still eating lots of sugar. I was trying to lose weight so as to avoid having to take bp meds.
I wasn’t checking my bp at the time, but whenever I was at dr or hospital it was hovering at 180/99 and upwards.
After stopping semaglutide, I did get onto Carvedilol 6.25/2x day and one hydrochlorothiazide per day.
My eGFR has fallen from 53 to 50 to 46, with low sodium levels, so my regular doctor has stopped the water pill. She wants to put me on Jardiance (forget it!), but if it would control my blood pressure to go back on a GLP-1 agonist, maybe I could get off Carvedilol as well.
Thank you, Dr. Cywes! You have info no one else is publicizing! I’m very thankful! I will certainly discuss this possibility with my doctors!
I’m now on modified carnivore and slowly reducing my few remaining carbs. You’ve made me wonder if I should consider semaglutide or another diet drug (my anti-aging doctor said he now had a better one, but I was not interested).
No one ever told me that these GLP-1 agonists would reduce blood pressure.
I will send a message to my patient care specialist immediately.
You can always set up a visit with us and we can help you to help yourself and possibly transition of all medication
I wish more doctors could think outside of the box as you do. Medicine should be more of an art form than a logarithm.
Those docs whose practice based on logarithms work for money, but not their passion to heal people
My blood pressure is fine until the Dr takes my bp, I feel my heart race and bp rise and then it’s high, very high, at home it’s good, 118/ 64 or so. I’m on keto now for 9 months. Still not good when I go to the doc and get my bp, it’s a phobia. Also, I would like to say that sleep apnea causes high bp as well.
'White coat syndrome' is a recognized condition. AND your doctor should take it into consideration. I suffer from the same thing when doing my Aviation Physical
I suffer from the same thing. Dr. Samuel Mann has written articles and a book about this problem.
Me too!
Exactly sleep video coming up
Sometimes you need short term help with your long term journey. In conjunction with changing diet and exercise to get to a balance of health. I agree with you Doc.
Brilliant info.Thanks.JHB-SA.
I was put on Trulicity and have been taking it for a year for diabetes, my daughter sends me a news clip about Ozempic causing some people to have stomach paralysis. There have been Lawsuits for Ozempic and also Trulicity and I believe other similar medication, I stopped taking it about six weeks ago and still check my morning glucose and it has stayed down, 94 this morning however I started carnivore October of 2023 and still doing this woe. I’m hoping to be able to stop taking Lisinipril , I’v lost 53lbs so far but have a long way to go, I’m 65 .
Omg!!! I’m so happy I’m on compounded Terzepatide!! Mind blown!!! I’m also doing a keto-carnivore plan but it wasn’t enough. Now I’m doing great.
Excellent post doc, thanks for the consistently exceptional info about the dangers of carbs! ❤️ keep em comin’
i will share this with my dr - ty! & yes! you have definitely made me rethink using glp1🙌🙌
About 20 years i suddenly got a severe headache and my BP was 210/110 and was rushed to hospital and spent 5 days, they did lots of tests but couldnt figure out why, sent me home on Atacand Plus high dose and been great since. Ive been on Ketovore for 3 months, lost weight and readonably active and tried to get off meds but still creeps up after a few days. Im 69 and seems like i will have to stay on the meds. Otherwise i feel fit and sleep well.
I love that you’re not an absolutist. Yes, diet, yes lifestyle, but use of carefully selected medication especially acutely, needs to be in the conversation for many patients.
We need to use every tool in our aluminum to treat patients to be metabolically healthy patients have a role to play but so do we
I had 190/110 after switching 3months keto to carnivore. Increased fat( high fat carnivore), added salt, as some internet doctors suggested. I walk every morning at 5am, then lift weights, then work physically. I am LMT.
So after about 3 months on carnivore, my BP was up to 190/110. I panicked..ended up in ER, took several days meds,( which never in my life had to take any), and started doing some research what caused it.
I added back some lettuce,brussel sprouts, lemon juice, cucumber, avocado, stopped eating pork belly instead of proceeded bacon, and lowered sodium. Started drinking Hibiscus tea and Hawthorn extract as BP treatment instead of meds.
My BP went down to 120/80.
Doctors still have know idea what caused the high BP! In ER doc said i have an anxiety and prescribed depression med!!
I came to conclusion, that extreme diet ( meat only) was probably too much stress for my body... 😊
Good man.
Wish I cld get a dr in SA to prescribe it!
Dr W the keyo IQ guy was on Ben azadis show today.
I wish you could be my doctor.
I would like to have known his fasting insulin.
The problem with all medications is OVERUSE. They have their place but are overused and used as the first resort instead of the last one, and are sometimes used in lieu of correcting life style.
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Love , love his stand on the best treatment per individual basis!
One would think, every patient should appreciate the hell out of this, right? Good luck finding doctor’s this invested in finding the best solution on a per patient basis.❤
Right!? I sure wish he was mine. He has a long wait list , I have tried . I’m thankful my endocrinologist recommended Mounjaro for me , it started my journey at least to much better health !
I had a stroke just over 3 years ago. Due to COVID my wife had to drop me at the emergency room front door, I was seen to in about 10 minutes. My BP at that time was 265/133. They started to work on me immediately. I spent a total of 5 days in 2 different hospitals. When I was discharged I was a mess, but alive. This could have turned out a lot worse. My wife got me out walking the next day, my foot dragging a bit leaving a trail in the snow as I shuffled around the neighbourhood. Recovery has been long and painfully slow. I'm still off work, and tire easily. Still have some weakness, muscle tightness and weird sensations. If you suspect you have high blood pressure get it seen to immediately.
I can't see any proof. It could also be the diet and lifestyle, but it took him a little bit longer. Like your friend Ken Berry always says, it can take weeks for some and month and month for others to normalize the BP 😊
I agree with you 100%. Thank you for not being dogmatic like some out there that are absolutists 🎉
No chance in a million years I would get Ozempic prescribed here in the UK! They wouldn’t allow it and I couldn’t afford private
The indication for cardiovascular treatment using JLP ones is about to be released in the next 2 weeks then perhaps it will be prescribed
Same here what causes it😮
I always find your videos insightful and helpful. However, whilst I am not a dentist, I did make an interesting observation a few years ago. For months I was putting off dental treatment and my BP was rising no matter what I did or medications I was put on. I finally went to my dentist and had a tooth pulled. On my next checkup with my GP, my BP had dropped to more normal levels. I do find that most doctors talk about medications first and often forget to refer a person to a dentist for just a checkup.
I am very pleased that you are able to find the specific cause of your hypertension PERIOD of course there are specific Reasons WHY individuals Blood pressures do Go up and we turn Over every Stone before we add a lot of medication but when every Stone is turned up no Answer Then treating metabolic High pretension is the right thing to do
@@robertcywes2966 I 👍
Can you send a link to the research papers you referred to in this video? I would like to read them and send them to my doc
Interesting case---challenges a number of assumptions. I still wonder what really cause all of this. Only time will tell...
How can his A1C be so low, indicating no insulin resistance, but Ozempic was able to reduce his high BP? Was it that he also lost weight, exercised and changed his diet to keto in combination with Ozempic that helped him?
Great question and that is why this was such a conundrum I wasn't sure that AGLP1 would work however Chris is very obesogenic and he is able to produce insulin searches to control his blood sugar but at the same time the surges in blood sugar cause the hypertension
@@robertcywes2966 Great video and comments! I’m curious if he wore a CGM during that first phase to see if there were any spikes. Some in the keto/carnivore community seem to think too much protein can trigger spikes.
Ferritin viral infection no one chasing paroxysm of control homeostasis loss! Increase in heart death post covax
Did you check his Insulin???? Because You. can have normal blood sugar and A1C Numbers but You can have 2 times, 3 times 4 times the amount of insulin to keep that. blood sugar at. normal levels!!!! Why did You not check insulin to see if it is working OVERTIME. I agree with the treatment
I'm a metabolic doctor...of course we check insulin😊
My doc put me on bp meds 1st thing, because I was already had the recommended lifestyle.
If you are still stranded on blood pressure medication despite a good ketogenic diet perhaps give us a call and set up a visit
Ozempic treatment is not very expensive in Europe. The german price is 171,92 Euro for three pens.
That's less than 2€ a day.
Wegovy costs 220,03€ for three pens.
Good to know
13:40 ...I concur
Thank you
My husband, who is thin and not insulin resistant, has secondary hypertension and is still salt sensitive on a carnivore diet. He also has regularly suffered from CO kidney stones (58 yo) so we're working with a nephrologist to see if it is kidney related hypertension. In the meantime, we've been trying different supplement/electrolyte combinations to try to lower his BP naturally without success. I've been taking 1000mg of Taurine every evening to verify it doesn't have any ill effect on me before adding to my husband's supplement regimen. My BP is normal but I think it lowers it just enough before bedtime to help with sleep for me. Is there anyone out there who has dabbled with Taurine for lowering BP? There are RCTs in pubmed that show an efficacious correlation.
If this doesn't work, I've threatened to chase him around the house to get him some exercise because I know that helps! 🤣
Prof Bart Kay is coming for you again😅
Its hard to argue
In addition to hypertension, I had daily attacks of very high BP. 170/110, 180/120, and higher. A doctor threw out all medication and gave me a little of everything. An ARB, a CCB, hydrochlorothiazide (HCT) and bisoprolol. Within a week, my BP was below 140/90, which for years was impossible. With the benefit of hindsight, I can now say that 25mg HCT and 5mg bisoprolol changed everything. The goal is to stop all medication and I am close but not there yet. GLP-1, you said?
I'm using Mounjaro in conjunction with Keto and blood pressure meds. The BP meds did not work for me when used alone. I 've lost 50 pounds in 7 months and dropped my blood pressure for 187/105 to 137/90. I still have more weight to lose and I'm sure when I am done my blood pressure will be normalized. Hopefully then I can taper off the BP meds too.
Can do Metformin do the trick, too?
I think to remember it helps with insulinresistence, too.
It has a mild effect but it's not powerful enough
At least 10 years at more than 10% above optimum weight of 136lb. Next 5 years at 15% higher. Then next 7 years at least 20% higher. 20+ years on medications for high blood pressure & high blood sugar.
Now quite steady at 136 to 139lb for past 1.5 years. Off medications of high blood glucose. High blood pressure pill of 10mg had to be cut into 3. 😂😂😂. So down to 1/3 of a pill every day.
I takes at 2.5 years, after starting on low carb, for my cold feet, to gradually returning to be feeling at its normally warm. 😂😂😂
Yes, folks need to understand that we didn't get into the shape we're in overnight. It can take TIME to see deeper results on the carnivore lifestyle.
I guess your patients will be part of the long term trials bc from what I've learned there were no long term trials before this class of drugs came on the market. Hope you will be updating your viewers over the years. Of course, practitioners rarely want to connect cancer with any medications. Glad your good friend is well today.
We wean them off meds. Not a longterm drug
What about the possibility of incorporating a natural substance that promotes the production of GLP one? For instance, yerba maté tea, and alluose.Professor Ben Bickman has spoken about both of these stimulating GLP one, and since I’ve been drinking the Yerba mate tea I’ve taken myself off that last little bit of blood pressure medication that I was taking, because my pressure had gone so low, and now my daily morning blood pressure is somewhere around 111/72. Could it be because I started drinking the yerba maté tea? And yes, I have gone carnivore. But my blood pressure was still staying up there a little bit.
Good idea
I take 3 meds for HP. Not sure if the NHS will prescribe a GLP1. I might try though.
Or get it from Germany
This dietary change will not "treat insulin resistance" instantly. I know from experience that for many it takes years and then their blood pressure drops. Too short a time to comment on the fact that even though the values are already fine, the blood pressure is still high. But people are impatient.
I believe what was said here. And that blood pressure had to be brought down as a result of a life-threatening situation. But my own experience is that hey, these problems in the body will not be fixed in months or a year.
I would just emphasize that when this patient's story is told in a comprehensible way and how it was treated, it should also be told that things will not be fixed in 90 days. Even if you are already thin and your blood values are fine. This happened to me, for example. But by continuing in the long term, everything has gradually improved. Blood sugar which is already normal, in a way, has come down and down even after the a1c has been 4.8.
Of course, as the doctor knew how to treat the situation, interventions have their place. Let's keep in mind that the body is getting better. All at different paces. But let's say it takes time.
I just took my blood pressure. Normal below 110, wasn't there before.
Agreed. Meds accelerate healing in potentially life-threatening situations
I am having that same issue as Chris, I have gone Keto (pretty much Carb free) dropped 35 pounds and work out regularly. My blood work is great but I am still having to be on BP meds. My BP was dangerously high a couple years ago and they put me on the BP meds. I have tried everything to get off of them. Makes sense that you can treat hypertension with Ozempic after the fact, after you have made the dietary changes and exercise regularly. Just not sure if I can convince my doctor of the same thing.
Dr Ken Berry has a BP video in which he states that 140/90 and below is considered normal? And in your video 110/60and bellow is normal?
Confusing now
Perhaps Dr. Berry is referring to a range that is below medical intervention and Dr Cywes is stating an Ideal range. From what I've seen over the past few months BP in the 140/90 range was considered high normal though some Docs feel those numbers are now considered "high" and medical intervention should be used. These same docs believe numbers like 130/85 or 125/80 are the new "normal high". sort of like how normal Cholesterol used to be 300, and now some docs consider 200 to be time for meds. Yeah, it's all confusing unfortunately.
I am 9 months carnivore and I have developed high blood pressure at average 150/100. I'll see what my doctor does this week with blood test results.
Did you have high blood pressure previous to carnivore diet?
You can always set up a consultation with us if you do not get help from your own Doctor
@@manojlogulic4234 A year ago I went to the ER with chest pain. They found nothing wrong with my heart but I did have 215/140 BP. I took amlodipine for 2 months while going keto which brought my BP back to normal where it stayed until February.
It's hard to get good medical care in Canada, if my BP stays high and my doctor (who talks faster than Eminem) doesn't help I might have to take you up on that offer Dr. Cywes.
@@robertcywes2966 why on earth do you pretend to be Dr Cywes, have you some sort of inferiority complex
Would this work with metformin
Doc, what is the normal blood pressure for a total carnivore?
In this video, you talk about normal blood pressure for someone on the SAD diet but you don’t mention carnivore diet blood pressure
110/70 ish
How is your practice doing after dropping Medicare?
DR, I have read that Ozempic can cause pretty good muscle mass loss
Does anyone know what a bloodwork consult cost with Dr. Cywes?
I wonder exactly what this guy was eating that he could not lose weight, especially if he is not insulin resistant. My brother in law says he eats great and can't lose weight. He has a bottle of wine almost every night and sweets only "occasionally".
Glp-1 and SGLT-2 great drugs ❤
How do I contact you I live in Florida you just described my situation. I am in excellent physical shape I work out five times a week I eat right keto everything they put me through all the blood pressure medications
Is it hard to get a dr to prescribe Ozempic for high blood pressure if you aren’t overweight? Also I thought most people on Ozempic are on it for the rest of their lives so why not just take bp meds and avoid the risk of stomach paralysis and other complications?
Ozempic is garbage don't take it
Help!
Where are the videos on what to do with lipids and heart disease? I can’t find help with this except regular doctors who want me on statins?
And what happens when he comes off it because you can’t stay on it for life can you we don’t know what the long-term side-effects are
We have shown many times that if the patient follows the eating plan and is physically active coming off the medication is the right thing to do and the blood pressure remains stable but you should continue to monitor blood pressure
So how do I talk to my dr about doing this type of regimen?
Thanks, interesting info. Would your patient need to stay on Ozempic for life?
Definitely not this is a transition to stabilize metabolic health and then we wean him off that is our standard practice and as long as he stays true to his eating pattern and physical activity he does not need any medication
Definitely not the medication is transitional to treat his metabolic dysfunction as long as he stays on his eating pattern and is physically active he should not have a problem again however monitoring the blood pressure is important
@@robertcywes2966 For how long his blood pressure is still ins normal range after you get him off all meds?
Did anyone notice when doc was going through bloodwork he mentioned triglycerides at 106 a little high, and then a few seconds later, triglycerides a little low? Which one is it? Lol
YES! My error. Second one was!LDL
@@robertcywes2966 so doc, was his high bp due to an adrenal problem or high insulin? And was he on carnivore or keto?
I'm still in the beginning stages of Carnivore/ketovore and I'm noticing my BP rising at times throughout the day. I've not had this problem before. Could it be related to low potassium? My systolic pressure seems normal, but the diastolic number gets up around 95. I am on Lisinopryl 20 mg. It usually is responsive to medication but doesn't seem like it is now. When I eat, it seems to normalize then it rises again. I don't like it when I feel off and I don't know how long I should just keep at this WOE. Wondering if I should bring back vegetables and just eat low carb.
That's what I had to do. I tried electrolyte powders but the sodium in all of them is just too high for me.
What about it's use in the carnivore space?
Situational beneficial
Chris drinks alcohol. If he quits that, he won't need any meds...
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Same hype as AI, it’s just everywhere now glp1
I'm interested if anyone know what is the mechanism behind this? Is it like his body is tricked to believe he is in hungry state all the time and put him in sympathetic nervous system and raise his blood pressure?
Mediated thru hormonal activation. Increased insulin reduced glucose and glucagon
@@robertcywes2966 Is that mean that patient no matter how good and strict he is in carnivore diet his body still not producing enough GLP 1 to shut down glucagon and release more insulin for glucose clearance ? But his C peptide is in normal range, his Ab1c is good, fasting insulin low, there is no logic? Maybe, we know insulin is needed for vasodilation and nitric oxide production, maybe his epithelium cells are still resistant to insulin at his base fasting level and need more insulin to relax vasel and that's how GLP1 actually lower pressure? I belive low carb, carnivore diet is good way to naturally improve GLP1 secretion he just need more time to recover his epithelium cells sensitivity to insulin. Also, there is some studies showing that berberine is like natural booster for GLP1, yerba mate, green and black tee as well. For people who can't get ozempix maybe thay should try this? Please, I'd like to learn in depth how GLP1 lower his blood pressure and all I can find on youtube is how GLP1 help in diabetes and weight lose.
@@robertcywes2966 Doctor, what is exactly mechanisam this work? Is it, no matter how good he is doing his blood vasel are still resistant to his base insulin level? We know insulin is needed for nitric oxide production and maybe his blood vesale are not yet sensitive enough and that's how GLP1 agonist help him to increase his insulin level and turn off glucagon as sugar release signal? I'd like to know how this work exactly so I can help my mom and dad, I can't find on youtube anywhere video that explaining how ozempix work for blood pressure all I can see is about managing diabets 2 and weight lose.
Sugar made me lean
Did he get the jab? I’d look at his weight loss and exercise as correlating factors and not just “BULSEYE”ing Ozempic. Possible Muscle-wasting and stomach paralysis and other as-yet unknown side effects…I’m gearing up to try full carnivore for a month, but Ozempic? Ooof. I just wonder if his weight stayed down and you titrated your friend down, would you see interesting correlations THERE.
Good job adding aspirin. Depending on how many clot shots he has had, I wouldn't be surprised if micro clots contributed to his high bp.
Bad
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How many covid shots did he get?
Total rubbish
Why couldn’t he just eat less? I don’t believe in ozempic.
What do you mean you don't believe in it? It's a thing, allot of people lose weight while taking it, however if that's not accompanied by a modified lifestyle (diet wise) the rebound is bad I've heard. If one uses it as a crutch to make the necessary changes they win in the long term. Like most drugs there will be before unknown off label uses that can be beneficial but studies need to be done before it will be used like that broadly.
Carb Addicted people can't just cut down on eating carbs.
You don't 'believe in Ozempic'? What do you mean by that and how did you come to that conclusion?
What an odd comment to make on a carb addiction doctor's video!!
@@Loraleeah4 I agree that some people are food addicts and ozempic can help with food addiction