Optimus Prime makes the Decepticons look like good guys
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ธ.ค. 2022
- Optimus is a very friendly autobot. Just a nice dude isn’t he?
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I love how they play heroic, glorious, inspiring music as Optimus commits the most brutal, heinous, horrible, inhumane war crimes imaginable
Can't be inhumane because he's not a human
"You DIE!"
Didn't we all watch him kill Megatron and semtinal and the fallan and even Unicron and lockdown and quintessa,all of whom have committed mass genocide,disregard life that isn't like there's,owned slaves,plotted to get slaves of earth,kill defenseless autobots for fun and ofcourse killed living breathing thinking beings becuase their "lesser" then them? That's racism at its finest and yet Optimus who simply killed a whole host of bad decepticons committed the most war crimes in 1 scene?
Btw ik it's a joke but for real tho consider it
And heads up every plot so far was about how can we kill off the humans the fastest? Also when I say kill autobots I do mean the execution scene and Megatron's spear scene and even some other scenes but for the sake of being a transformer fan I will say that it's perfectly in character and thus should be normal 😀
@@hernanarauz1610 *"incybertroniane" 😂😂
Classic Optimus Prime lines, like “I’ll kill you all,” “give me your face”, and “you die now.”
A leader. A keeper of peace
It's a war and he's a leader, how tf would it looks to his soldiers if he was like "damn killing people is so sad why can't we all just be friends" like every other "hero" in movies and games. Plus in the heat of battle against the enemies who want to rip apart your dearest friends and enslave humanity I'd be more surprised if prime wasn't like "fuck you imma beat you to a pulp".
If there's one thing they did right in these movies (at least the early ones) they made prime a fucking force to be reckoned with. He takes on Megatron, starscream and the other dude in a 3v1, reduces one to begging for mercy, rips starscreams arm off and heavily wounds Megatron all while protecting Sam.
Peace has patience and patience has limits
@@Defnotdiablo How would it look to his soldiers? It'd probably make Optimus look, dare I say, inspiring? Like someone who doesn't simply want to destroy the enemy and win the win, but end conflict for his people? This Optimus is more like Kratos.
But I guess for the world that this series portrays, and the characters they have, I think making Optimus just a tad too blood thirsty is the best case scenario
@Bradley Sanders Seems like stories always get Prime's character wrong. In the new Netflix series he is exactly the weak leader you described, who is unwilling to make difficult decisions or take life, thus causing far more suffering through how ineffective he is (this is my least favorite way he can be written). In the Baymovies he is an unrelenting slaughter machine and the plot doesn't give him enough out-of-battle time to show him being a good leader, so we just have to take the story's word for it that he's a good guy. I disagree with you in how violent he is, he seems to relish the killing too much, but most of that is just an issue with lacking other story elements, and I'd rather him be too violent than not violent enough tbh. There need to be more well written transformers media, like the IDW comics, where Optimus is an even tempered leader who is very badass in battle, but he is also aware that he is fallable and tries to remove himself from becoming an idol, only to be caught in the esteem the Autobots hold for him. He's a powerful paragon hero who has to be tempered, kind of like Superman; he cant relish killing too much, but he also has to stick to have strong conviction and principles. Those comics did an amazing job of showing how he can step up and lead, but when he doesn't temper himself from his ego and desire for "freedom" he becomes what Megatron accuses him of being, which is a sanctimonious warmonger.
@@blootooth00 just a few words nothing too much 😐
This is the absolute pinnacle of "we can make it as violent as we want because they're robots"
he pretty much blood eagled Megatron haha
@@daarom3472 I wouldnt really say that was a blood eagle, but still brutal af how he yanked off his head and spine.
@@fjoltnyr2464 Yeah. If Megs was human, he'd probably have half his face completely covered with blood (and the other half dripping heavily), plus his digestive system would be still barely attaching his head to his body. (Many people would probably throw up at the thought of a guy having his head levered off with an axe, and part of his spine still hanging on, especially that the esophagus would also be attached and may not snap at all. I'm sorry if I made any of you sick).
But overall, if this was humans fighting each other instead of extraterrestrial robots, then it would definitely be beyond Rated R or even X.
What about that one scene from What If...? Season 2?
Yeah it's amazing
Optimus Prime doubletapping a senior citizen has gotta be one of the greatest moments in film history
A hero, truly
@RebelPlanet1 don't plan to, heard it's rather unoriginal
@RebelPlanet1 tbh i saw the trailers and it didn't pique my interest so i think I'll wait maybe I'll end uo watching it in the future. Too bad since zack is one of my fav directors
@RebelPlanet1shut up
@RebelPlanet1 Yeah I have, it was really bad 😭
"To ensure peace, you have to make enemies rest in peace."
~ Optimus Prime
*rest in pieces
*WOOW* 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏💥💥💥💥💥
-Xqc
This quotes hit even in real life
“If you want peace, prepare for War.”
@@Vajra717 “If you want peace, prepare for War CRIME” there I fix it for you
I love how he doesn't even have quirky catchphrases, he just says terrifying shit like "give me your face"
Optimus isn't one for quirky catchphrases, he's not in a marvel movie.
He's got "'Til all are one", though.
Trash talking might be accurate of Optimus Prime
@@spriggy_6117 which I assume knowing optimus means he wants to crush all beings into one giant cube
If you know Batman, you would know fear is a very powerful weapon
@@spriggy_6117 his catchphrase should be « when I throw these hands it’s till all are none ».
Nobody understands the value of peace until they went through war
~Optimus Prime, a murderous maniac
The best thing about Optimus is that when the Cybertronian war finally came to an end, they offered him leadership and he turned it down. He said "I am a war lord, call me if you need a warrior."
He may be a murdering bastard, but he has integrity.
@@notsure8513 where was this? I'm intrigued!
@@reasondro I think it was in combiner wars.
@@notsure8513 ah gotcha!
The only actual murder he committed was against Sentinel after he was beat already. Every other kill was an enemy combatant who had weapons in hand and was trying to kill him back. Hardly a murderous maniac.
Sentinel's crime is like your father deciding to kill you, your friends, and wife and burn down your hometown and enslave its people...the level of betrayal Sentinel committed was pretty severe...so again hardly a "maniac", while some may say Optimus wasn't justified, he at least had a pretty normal motive.
Also remember that at this point in time Cybertron has no government to turn war criminals over to for judgement. So the only judgement Sentinel was going to get was a battle field judgement. This still isn't like killing some defenseless civilian. This is an enemy combatant that moments ago was trying to kill you and enslave earth.
“I rise, you fall” is some villainous shit
Nowhere near as villainous as Fallen ever was.
His name is The Fallen so makes sense
@@Tarnished-bn5gq"Give me your face"
- Optimus 'not as villainous as the fallen' Prime
@@gloryiusgessepi2381 Executes an unarmed and surrendering senior citizen.
- Optimus "not a villain" Prime
Someone finally said it
Who's your favorite serial killer?
"Semi truck with fire texture"
Imagine yandere chan used that kind of violence to her rivals
@@BloodbathJumpscares638 Bro Nah! 💀
Truck-kun?
That would be scary as hell! @@BloodbathJumpscares638
Imagine William used Optimus violence, he's going to stab Susie in the face and neck, ripped Gabriel's head with axe, punched Fritz's abdomen so hard and ripped Fritz's eyes aggressively, he cuts Jeremy's fingers his shoulder impaled by knife and ripped his face and crushed his heart, And lastly Cassidy got her head ripped in half by William
“Give me your FACE.” Most maniacal thing I’ve ever heard.
Optimus casually performing some Jason vorhees level stunt
I was always sad that the fallen didnt even put up a good foght
*then uses a blade sticking out of The Fallen's neck to skin his face off
*the grabs TF as he stumbles away and punches him through the chest
*then says as TF's body is spraying blood from both his face and chest, slowly falling to the ground dead
"I rise, you fall"
😂😂
Followed by "I rise and you fall" which made that whole exchange funny asf for some reason
@@widowswine7994the fallen was never portrayed as a warrior tho. Just a special class of cybertronian
"What would you be without me Prime?" "Time to find out."
Bro that was actually fucking COLD.
Badass line tho-
megattron should watch what he says around prime cause they could be his last
*who
Reminds of "Everybody wondered how I was going to react if I didn't win; I guess we'll never know"
Personally I would have preferred "Orion Pax." but I get why the mainstream film series didn't go for a deep cut like that.
Optimus the kinda guy you’re *REALLY* glad is on your side.
Exactly 😰
That’s why they made a movie about him being the villain
I love how he just kills you because he knows that talking is useless
What a chad.
Action speaks louder than words.
Optimus actioned all over them.
The equivalent of john wick I suppose
Of course he knows talking is useless, he's had literally a million years to try, and he has tried, but the Decepticons have made it abundantly clear that they don't want to, so now that there's a planet with another sapient species that has nothing to do with their war involved, he's done trying. Freedom is the right of all sentient beings, and the Decepticons are free to die.
Talking is not useless at all, in fact some of the decepticons end up deserting, but to SOME devepticons, you just can't talk sense. Especially Shockwave
@@yasininn76prime knew that but he wasnt taking chances though
"What would you be without me, Prime?"
"Time to find out."
That goes so damn hard.
Hardest shit I've ever heard in my life 😭
Mans really tried to pull a Lego Joker.... then gets clapped
That line goes craaazy😭
That line is my best
The original ending is better. The one where they actually call a truce.
Starscream nonchalantly getting folded in every interaction he has with Optimus is almost as funny as the disrespect he gets from his allies on the daily
the very common, expected, and perpetual L's of one starscream
@@malum9478 All Starscream ever gets is L’s. Even when it looks like he has a W the universe intervenes.
@@vanguardtrainer924 fr. He even got crowned as leader of the decepticons and Galvatron straight up disintegrated him
he was pretty badass in the first film and then they turned him into a clown. He even had a better voice
“I NEVER RETREAT!”
“Of course starscream, you only advance backwards.”
This is the guy who has the patience to search for an old man's eyeglasses on ebay.
You know, thinking back, that was the thing that probably turned him into a walking talking justification for the existence of a Cybertronian equivalent of the Geneva Convention
had* he doesn't anymore
Between that and "give me your face" he actually died. It's understandable.
The glasses aren't Decepticon. They're just glasses 😆
I mean, by this point, Optimus Prime has been through so much shit, he probably doesn't see the point in having honor anymore. He's going to match the Decepticons ferocity and show them who he is lmao
I dont think so.i think bayverse optimus prime isnt optimus prime because optimus prime is kinda space jesus i mean he is the chosen one and no matter what happens he always acts wise that is why primus chose him as a prime.bayverse optimus prime isnt like that that guy is bloodthirsty real optimus prime knows when to kill and when he has to kill someone he doesnt make them suffer because optimus always kinda a pacifist
No decepticon did anything nearly as psycho as telling an enemy "Give me your face"...
@@narukami597Trying to blow up the sun?
@@Bruh-ii9ib That's just regular evil. Demanding your enemy to give you his face is a whole other level.
@@narukami597megatron treated jazz like a chicken tender how is that not psychotic? Megatron is also the one who tore bumblebees voice straight out of his neck. Lockdown pulled ratchets heart out of his body and showed it to him. And ironhide was melted alive, that’s actually probably the only REAL war crime here. Tell me that optimus is the only brutal character or that the decepticons are less brutal again
G1 Optimus: "You're not gonna shoot a defenseless deception, are you!?"
Bayverse Optimus: "Yeah, in the face, why!?"
That's so true
Demolisher was dying, and would’ve suffered a longer, more painful death if it wasn’t for prime. Prime put him out of his misery.
@@dis_random_kid8699when?
G1 Optimus: You who is without mercy, now begs for it? You're such a little wimp, Megs. Lmao
We gonna talk like G1 Optimus wasn’t gonna kill Megatron in the movie while he begged for mercy
Megatron: _Saves Optimus’s life_
Optimus: _Proceeds to rip out his spine like fucking Sub Zero_
Don't forget he was a genocidal mf who also killed jazz,deserved.
He tore jazz in half in the first movie... and advocates for the extinction and enslavement of humanity.
You understand that EVEN IN REVENGE OF THE FALLEN he held down Sam so he could get deepthroated by a robot worm right?
optimus kinda insane
he needs the electrolytes to heal
"I SAVED YOUR LIFE WHAT THE F#@$"
Finally some brutal deaths that i can only watch without getting traumatised
Yeah they are robots lol
Mans casually saying “give me your face” is villainous work 💀😂
*proceeds to use the spear impaled in his neck to skin off his face, and punch him through the chest*
"I rise, you fall"
So, wasn't he supposed to be some librarian that likes pace?
@@cineva-wb1pkbayverse Optimus is a knight.
And to keep the peace some sacrifices got to be made😎
When I was younger, this is how I thought George Washington was like during his battles.
I Thought that man was the Supreme leader of murder and used to be out here chopping down trees with his fists
do you have proof that he wasn’t?
Laughs in freedom*
Lmfao! GW, maybe. Benjamin Martin however? Boyyyy, you better run!
💀💀🤣
I love how because they're robots, a bunch of writers can just make some of the most horrific, heinous,and brutal deaths imaginable.
Or you know controversial war crime esque deaths, such as killing a surrendered enemy, or surrendering but actually not doing so, using artillery bombing on civilian areas, everytime i rewatch transformers i get reminded of what war crimes are and why we have them
Not a warcrime when your a robot
@@Polymerata#robot lives matter
@@Mezha07 he never accepted any surrenders from them, so none of what he did during a war (you know, the thing where you kill your enemies) are considered a crime...maybe brush up on your intelligence a bit
@@williamcooper8599 ‘Time to find out’..
“A good enemy is a dead one.” - Optimus Prime, probably.
He's not wrong
That's why i love bayverse Optimus. He was hardcore af with his dialogues and action
I'm not even sure what they were trying to do with Rise of the Beasts, Make Optimus Prime as Lame as Possible, I Suppose. 🤔
@@angelfeliciano-ch3fvfr bro was nowhere as good as a leader then bayverse nor as badass.
Old man: “NO OPTIMUS!”
Optimus: *PROCEEDS TO PUT 2 DOUBLE BARREL TANK ROUNDS INTO THIS GEEZER*
Optimus is an old man himself
@@Heisenburger1050Yeah but Sentinel is like…super super old man, he outranks Optimus in geezerness
@@lil_rascal5235 yeah I know
Don't worry, he deserved it
Casually puts him out
Optimus is like that really chill guy who likes to talk things out, but God help you if he decides to give you them hands.
He gave some particularly brutal deaths to his enemies.
He tore The Fallen's face off before ripping his spark out and crushing it before The Fallen's eyes, he punched a chunk out of Shockwave's side before ripping his eye out, and dug an axe into Megatron's head before ripping it off.
@@foxboy6145 Long story shot.. Optimus likes ripping people off
Exactly. He’s an autobot. If there’s peace involved he will most likely take it.
Until they go back on their word or decide to use underhanded tactics. Well it’s fair game in LOVE and WAR.
Ngl this has to be my favorite version of Optimus
you basically will get disrespected
95% of the time he still acts like the librarian he once was but every now and then he has to remind us why we call him Warcrime Prime
He's a librarian he worked customer service I can't blame him
@@DripHakumen Truuuuuuuue
Yeah the rest 5% the mask comes on and the rest is peace and pieces 😂
One thing I learnt from the Bayverse Transformers is that an extraterrestrial being with actual good intentions/heart that spent enough time with humans will eventually lose their composture and at one point you'll start praying he doesn't go ape shit.
I'm saying this because as the franchise progressed Optimus started caring less for us humans and went completely berserk.
Also, replace the transformes with humans and this would be smth you'd only see on adultswim or any other not-so family friendly platform.
Yes, and its because as the movie progress...humans too arent cared bout them..
Once you realize the enemy isn't gonna show you mercy because it only sees you as metal to be scrapped, you're gonna start seeing them as punching bags made of meat yourself
He seems like a calm and reasonable robot
Is he a calm and reasonable robot?
If the moment calls for calm.
I’d say the moment calls for calm, yeah.
I like how gow fans lurk on every corner of the internet
@@hiveknight7416 And this touching me but also makes me laugh. Let's agree that this suit with Optimus in the bayverse too? Seriously!
Useless Side fact: I've become a fan of this franchise in 2021 :')
One of the most overlooked things is that, in that 3v1 in the forest, Prime casually rips Starscreams arm off and it’s fucking hilarious. No epic slow mo, the movie’s like “oh yeah he just does that”
And he then proceeds to beat the sh*t out of him using his arm as a club lmao
I think the most overlooked thing is how he throws one of his swords at Grindor’s thigh.
Starscream yelps like a dog after that. Funny shit
@@Night5225 It’s definitely easily missed- I had to rewind it like three times to catch it
With a friggin KARATE CHOP no less!! He already ejected that sword to Grindor’s leg, so it’s like “Welp, guess I’m down to pure fury and momentum, so…full send”
The writers respect that Optimus is a kind leader with peaceful ideals but a strong war leader also accepts that violence is necessary
Exactly. The whole Transformers franchise just went downhill but I did like Bayverse Prime's character development. He understood that the only langauge these warmongers can understand is war.
That wasn't an action movie... This is just a serial killer movie!
blatantly stolen comment lmfao
Optimus outside of combat: (standard wise leader archetype)
Optimus in combat: “Rip and tear, until it is done!”
And humble xddd
Literally
Rip and tear, BFG Division
Well to be fair "One Shall Stand One Shall Fall" is the coda of the franchise
You kinda want that attitude in a leader
Never realized as a kid that Optimus said "Give me your face" before he kills the fallen. Truly a maniac
Megatron was gonna take sams brain. He was also planning on turning everything to dust
BRO the fallen was about to commit a mass genocide and blow up the sun who's the REAL maniac here.
@@noir1940 both, Optimus just prefers face to face as opposed to mass extinction
@@MM126.90HAH
@@MM126.90 face to face. He gets to admire it on his mantle
Transformers isn't an action movie anymore, this is a straight up serial killer movie!
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Even though this is not what Prime is like, i feel like hundreds of years of war and PTSD fuel like he endured would definitely drive a man to be this ruthless.
And consider that in that forest scene, he was holding back before he realized he needs to go all out if he wants to make it out alive.
Fun fact:Optimus everytime he fights he enables his battle mask to stop his mouth from hurting his enemies emotions
Note: Welp,I didn’t think that comment would be this popular XD
Lol?
@@emti29 in short he swears while battling
Actually that's not true because in the first movie when he had the "Humans don't deserve to live" argument with Megatron you can clearly see him speak with his battle mask on when he said "They deserve to choose for themselves"
@@lebrainblaster i think that's a joke.
Megatron and Fallen heard alot of shit when fighting Optimus. Guess his mask isn't perfect.
I actually kind of like how optimus becomes more brutal as the conflict goes on. Not having the luxury to hold back and having his moral barriers eroded.
Its a fun interpretation that adds some layers to this heroic character.
Prime made every single fight personal
Well his enemies were personal enough already
He actually would've defeated all of them if he didn't look for Sam.
😂😂😂😂😂
So true...
I never understood where the hell all other autobots went!! Like that's the bay logic!! What was the semse behind seperating from.other autobots??
Yes it’s sams fault for playing Marko polo
@user-ki8il7vk9d Optimus was leading Megatron away from the city, while Bumblebee went to get Leo and Mikaela away from the fight and then gather reinforcements.
„You picked the wrong planet , give me your face“ is the best line I’ve ever heard
Same energy as: "You picked the wrong house fool"
@@JeffGranja27 or Clint Eastwood's get off my lawn.
"Give me your face" doesn't sound like prime. Even Cullen himself said that.
That sounds incredibly fucking edgy
it reminded me of Khabib saying, "I want to change his face".
Dude imagine if William Afton use that kind of violence to missing children
Bro that would be terrifying! Because I'm just Fnaf Fan
DON'T☠️
Nah imagine William says "Give me your face" to Cassidy 💀
@@user-bl9qz4tk9w I know. That's why it would be terrifying up to ripping the sanity off the younger audience. And I am talking about kids, who softened the spookiness of franchise
I can't imagine the screams...
This is how lore accurate George Washington fought.
Bayverse Optimus Prime is the most extreme example of “the rage of a gentle man” and I love that.
It's basically the serious version of Flanders.
As a huge fan of the first generation cartoon, I found it shocking to see an Optimus that didn’t extend an olive branch to the deceptions. That was always Optimus’ one flaw in the cartoons. In some ways, Optimus was too optimistic, which made him more of an idealistic hero, but the movies make him a more pragmatic general.
@@elgusaniiiodeljuego6823 A Bot of Flanders
Even the devil shivers
Honestly makes him somewhat more realistic, centuries of war tends to do that when he’s probably tried before but his attempts didn’t work on cybertron so he isn’t willing to risk a second world to their war
"Piece of tin"
"Give me your face"
"I rise, you fall"
"You die."
"Who would you be without me, Prime? Time to find out"
He even has the lines as a maniac.
You didnt betray me, you betrayed yourself.
@@marcosvfilho8687 “what the fuck does that even mean Optimus”
is thisa haiku lol
They didn't cover even half of his psychotic lines here. His very first words in the 4th one are "I'll kill you!" Just, the second he wakes up that's the first thing he says! And it gets worse.
@@quietone2674 you say that like my dude ain't being hunted down and was ambushed
"Time to find out."
I've always loved that line.
Love the part where Megatron says "Who would you be without me?" Like he's trying to bait Optimus into having a philosophical dialogue to buy time, but Optimus doesn't take it at all
Optimus ripping starscreams arm off, him yelling "mY ArM!" and Optimus hitting him twice with it is peak cinema.
"Stop hitting yourself"
"You'll never stop at one. I'll take you all on!" One of his best lines ever. Gives me chills everytime.
That quote is the only real Optimus Prime moment that these movies ever gave us. He was a lot more like Optimus Punisher.
Goosbumps
same, his stoicism, heroism idk how to call this shit, and he isnt even human, he is literally a piece of talking metal that doesnt exist.
“all alive”
"In a fight, right Optimus?"
"I-in a fight... right?"
“Give me your face” is one of the coldest lines I’ve ever heard a fifty foot tall car robot say
Nah even tho these movies didn’t get the highest ratings, they had some of the craziest CGI and special effects that I’ve ever seen even to this day.
Optimus is proof that there’s nothing more terrifying than the rage of a gentle man
-He would be good friends with Kratos-
@@AdamDeOldSport You don't have to cross your words sir. We all agree
There are three things wise men fear, two of which are 'natural phenomenon', a night with no moon, and a storm at sea. You've already said the most dangerous one.
You killed it my guy.
@@AdamDeOldSport kratos isnt a good guy. he was straight evil in the original trilogy
I love how Optimus could easily wreck everyone when the plot needs it, but also get wrecked himself so easily when the plot needs it.
@@mcnasty1362 a badly written one. Lmao
@@reybladen3068 Yeah that's exactly it, that's just bad writing
That's Michael Bay for you. Terrible writer/director, but big explosions and lizard brain carnage
@@akaviral5476 that shits fucking fire idk what to tell you. Sick fucking movie with action and mediocre writing> decent writing no action movie
It would have been better if they made his enemies stronger instead of downgrading optimus himself.
“Where would you be without me?” Only to have your spine ripped out in seconds by a one armed T is crazy
Classic Optimus Prime: Every life is sacred and should be protected
Bayverse Prime: GIVE ME YOUR FACE
I like how with every film Optimus got progressively more aggressive with his enemies. It gives off this vibe that over time, every time the decepticons came back and humans betrayed him, he had less and less patience for them and slowly lost his way as an honorable fighter.
It's probably not what was intended but I'd like to think it was.
same thought here! and people were surprised by his brutality, like c'mon, both the cons and the humans really asked for it in the first place.
I mean he’s still honorable fighter he just fucks you up badly lol. Unlike megatron he a bitch and had to 3v1 to take him down. Although megatron can probably do a good 1v1 against optimus still.
@@Ryuujiish true you got betrayed by your brother, your mentor, and your friends it takes a toll.
I always had this idea as well but then wondered why I was reading that deep into these movies
Finally! People that understand the reason for his brutality. I 100% think his brutality towards the Decepticons is justified when you see what he’s been through
The worst part is that, you can't even blame him for turning into a psychopath. The Decepticons are so cartoonishly evil and murderous it's easy to have no remorse for killing them, and it doesn't help the fact that in later movies he's against Decepticons AND humanity while his brothers were hunted down
Right
This
you're giving these movies way too much credit🤣
What other movies? Transformers ended with the trilogy! At least I like to tell myself that. Age of Extinction just made the humans even more cartoonishly stupid and evil than the decepticons. And the....Human sized transformer guns...just why.
Actually the decepticons aren’t evil it’s the other way around
Bro killed his own kind to protect us. Respect for fighting for the greater good
You sure WE are the greater good?
I had to scroll criminally low to find this
Sure what Optimus is doing is pretty violent, but he's in the right
@@YokaiShelter u wouldn't really say that if a giant ass robot was tryna kill u
@@YokaiShelter to the robots that want to enslave us and drain our planet of all its resources
Optimus doesn't get PTSD, he gets nostalgia
The fact that Fallen tried to flee is actually horrifying.
or Sentinel begging for his life. But Optimus doesn't accept surrenders, only executions.
@@Kevin-qh1veSentinal didn’t spare Optimus when he tried to plead with him only minutes before, not to mention he murdered one of Optimus’ oldest friends in cold blood and tried to enslave the human race, Sentinel didn’t deserve any different
@@thevagabond1314Jetfire basically saved Optimus with his gear, yet he was a former decepticon. Why is Ironhide justified in gunning down every fleeing decepticon he sees and throwing out a catchphrase while doing it? He didn't deserve any better, Sentinel was justified, by your logic.
@@denisucuuu Why is Sentinel justified, when Ironhide and the autobots literally try to save the human race from Decepticons trying to destroy earth. Of course i would mock the enemies who try to destroy my home
@@Kevin-qh1veSentinel begging for his life when Optimus was begging for his when Sentinel was about to kill him was absolutely hypocritical
I love how he got the vibe of an inspiring superhero like superman or batman. And then he has a passion for removing people's heads with his bare hands.
since when was batman inspiring.... the guy is an insane being but you're right about superman
@@godzillazfriction the entire Nolan trilogy focuses on Bruce Wayne using Batman to inspire Gotham to fight against criminals and corruption government.
@@Q7davidlt yep because batman is only from Christopher Nolan
@@godzillazfriction you just asked, since when was Batman inspiring and i just gave you an example of when he was.
@@Q7davidlt oh so batman was made and was only introduced by Christopher Nolan.... ok you zoomie, you won
Never occurred to me how much Optimus Prime was on that Kratos shit. Bro was brutal.
I love how he doesn't even make some quirky phrase, just straight up what he means, with the coldest and most badass tone I've ever heard in my entire life
The disrespect in cutting starscreams arm off and smacking him with it 💀
Didn't even cut it off, Prime just karate chopped it.
Or prime is strong af, or starscream is weak af
If you like good guys hitting baddies with their own arms, then you should watch Deadly Prey (1987).
Lmfaaooo
Basic rule of thumb, take an arm, and you either smack them with it or you kill someone else with it.
Optimus seems like a calm and reasonable person
2:26
Is he a calm and reasonable person?
A god of war reference in a transformers video, i love the internet
If the moment calls for calm.
He's equipped with the Blades of Calm and the Axe of Reason
I mean, he is the leader for a reason. In times of war you don't become a leader because you're nice and inspiring. You become leader because you're ruthless and a good warrior.
As bad as these movies were, I always got a big laugh out of how gruesome the robot deaths were.
And also how apathetic Optimus was, dude just straight up executed people in the most violent way he could think of
It's grittier and I like that. It shows how realistically, someone who's seen more war and death then a continuous WWII throughout 7 human lifetimes would feel. He's seen way too much and lost way too much to hold back for reasons like "honor." In a war about the extinction of an entire race, there is no honor. Theres just what needs to be done in order to save as many lives as possible. It's actually kind of cool that Optimus values the human race so much he'd be willing to kill so many Cybertronians to protect us from extinction. He does value every single life, equally at that. However, Bayverse Optimus stops valuing your life when you stop valuing others' lives. He no longer thinks you're worthy of mercy when you're willing to genocide countless species in the name of restoring a home that was already destroyed from within. Cybertron is dead and it's the ones who lived on it who killed it. It's not Earth's responsibility to be a sacrifice to bring Cybertron back when chances are the same thing that happened to the original Cybertron will just happen again. Bayverse Optimus is brutal because he doesn't see the need to hold back against what he probably views as abominations of life. What we'd call beasts in human skin
@@theintrovert9288 my nigga….. chiiiillllllll 🛥
Fun fact: In the prequel novel Ghosts of Yesterday: Before the events of the first movie the Decepticons: Blackout, Barricade, Bonecrusher, and Starscream all have a conversation and point out and acknowledge that Optimus is not weak and is a formidable opponent and some of them mention that fighting him one on one would mean certain death. They all respect and fear him because they have seen his skill as a warrior and know he is the biggest threat the Decepticons faced.
But they still want the honor of killing him to win favor amongst the other Decepticons and with Megatron which would earn them a higher status within their ranks. Which is why Bonecrusher was so eager to fight Prime in the first movie but it is also what lead to his inevitable death.
Funny I remember a comic where Barricade told Bonecrusher to deal with Prime cause he still had a score to settle with Bee. And Bonecrusher simply said "sure whatever."
@@MAYITO1107 comic is different from the novel I suppose. I think this book is decanonized and retconned now since Optimus and The Autobots arrive in the Ark in the book but in the third movie the Ark was being used by Sentinel Prime. The book is called Ghosts of yesterday. It’s a good read and highly recommend
Bonecrushers bio says he's always eager to fight someone. Doesn't matter how much bigger they are than him. He just wants to fight
Nah but bonecrusher got fumbled so hard 😭
Bro legit had a 2 min fight just to get obliterated by prime
@@Kingofmenaces they described his personality in the book as well. But they also added in the book how each of them wanted the honor of killing Optimus Prime for themselves. Which can also explain why he charged at Optimus.
Okay but
"Who would you be without me, Prime?"
*"Time to find out."*
Is probably the most cold fucking line I've heard.
Okay but honestly HOW do you misquote that? Who. WHO. "WHO would you be without me, Prime?"...
I'm sorry but my personality dictates that I say something.
@@Artakka. my bad dude. I can just edit the comment, no harm done
high key a really badass fucking line if you view its brutality in the best light possible lmfao
That three minutes was the whole reason I watched these movies over and over🤣
Honestly, this is better than Talk no Jutsu or Power of Friendship....
I appreciated this version of Optimus Prime.
(Except everytime he lost due to plot)
"You rip off a few skulls, and, suddenly, you're a murderous psycopath."
"...Optimus, they had... Friends. Family. Loved ones."
"I know. *They are next."*
I heard his voice. I HEARD the mouth guard CLANG sound... I think we wanna leave that boy Optimus alone.
Bro just ignoring how everyone who optimus killed has committed mass genocide and have commited ACTUAL war crimes
And yet mfs have sympathy for the decepticons (ik u joking doe)
Where does it came from? Sounds familiar...
"We will kill them all"
-Optimus Prime
Optimus out here drop shotting baby decepticons with his energon blades
tear off face.
smashes through gut.
rips out vocal cords.
pulls off head attached to entire spine.
goes on a slaughter on the daily.
everybody's favorite autobot savior, *_Optimus Prime!_*
Yes a savior, saving people from evil decepticons
Guys, if youre surprised by this... you dont understand what Optimus has been through.
You dont survive MILLIONS of years of combat with lots of sympathy left intact. Hes not a heartless monster, but if he has to kill you for thr greater good, or to save the world, he absolutely will.
This is a soldier, a warrior, a veteran who has been foreced to watch FAR TOO MANY of his friends die than anyone should...
And he will do absolutely ANYTHING he has to, to defend the few people he is willing to fight for and to protect the innocent.
And if he happens to talk shit while he does it, id say thats about on par.. especially considering how much the decepticons have done to him.
Imagine if they were humans instead of robots
It would be brutal lol
It would basically be Mortal Kombat
there was an episode of the animated series where optimus became a human. it was terrible but interesting
It would have a hardcore R rating with all the gore
Why do you think they got off with such gore in these movies with just pg rating lol
The fact that the decepticon at 0:42 actully pleads “No prime, PLEASE” before Optimus rips his bloody face into two, proves how batshit bonkers prime is
I don't think that's what the Decepticon said. And IF it is, I dont mind Prime killing him. Its like you guys 3v1 him, and then when he beats you on 1v1 just then you are begging for mercy? And lets not forget that Decepticons' actions killed a lot of humans and started a war on Cybertron. So yeah Prime has the right to kill em.
Holy crap never realized that
15 years later and I never realized that. You’re a hero
Well when you have to protect a human, earth, and yourself from equally energon thirty psychopaths. Those very same people responsible for your friend/family's deaths. Then you can imagine wanting to rip people's faces off.
@@evanescence_1115 actuallyy it was the "auto bots" bc before the war they were actually still not equal
Believe it or not but the autobots enslaved the decepticons
Made them work
Made them fight in a arena roman gladiator style
And so the decepticons specifically megatron rebelled
"No, Optimus!"
YES Optimus
Optimus's brutality reminds me of Roosevelt's quote, "speak softly but carry a big stick" and boy he is not scared to swing that big stick
Starscream: “MY ARM!”
Optimus: “Oh, my bad bro you can have it back.”
Twice
I'm so happy the writers strike gave us the line
"give me your face"
The stars aligned
Revenge of the Fallen is the most beautiful dumpster fire of a movie I have ever seen and I love it for it.
@@vanguardtrainer924 idk how that movie is my favorite transformers movie ngl
@@davidgordillo6583 because the fight choreographers, cgi modelers+animators and voice actors worked more in one day than the writing team did in the entire production. That's why you get beautiful fight scenes with amazing motion and voice work in the same movie as a chihuahua who humps people
@@davidgordillo6583it's my favorite too whats wrong with it? Other than the giant robot being dispatched immediately
I love how they just stand around and wait their turn for Optimus to rip them apart, looking confused af
I actually love this version of Prime, a real Warrior.
Whenever the main character has do the the dirty work and do whats necessary, hes not holding back after what happened on the 2nd movie when he was holding back, he only started fighting for real when he realized he was going to die there and so will sam if he fails.
And after he got resurrected he showed no mercy in hes battles moving forward. Sure he can get a bit too brutal and i guess a bit too personal, could be adrenaline or something, don't know if thats a thing for robots XD
Optimus: "no, I won't say the N word"
*Kills Megatron*
Megatron: "WHATDAFUCKK I JUST SAVED YOUR LIFE"
LMAO TRUE
@@itzthemecha7173t’s a horrendous dubbing video. So horrendous that it’s good
Stolen comment L moment
@@Ken00868 i think that he's just trying to reference a video
To be fair, it pretty easy to assume that Megatron, wasn't there to save Optimus, he just wanted to kill zeda, and once that was done, it's back to business as usual, Optimus was just more proactive.
being beaten to a pulp that you transform into your vehicle form gotta go hard
A true hero
Rips someones face off before ripping their heart out.
Ripping someones side open before pulling their eye through their throat.
Bay transformers are weirdly gory
You know what, almost 100% of Optimus "victims" actually deserves to get treated that way. At least Optimus end it quick without made them suffer
The fallen thinks otherwise
@@jadenboowrs9889 Grindor too.
@@mr.monotonyofdiversity2573 he literally did nothing tohim he just riped his head in half because he wantedto
you are the reason Michael Bay makes these movies. dimwits that want to see Optimus savagely dismember
Ripping someone's face off doesn't strike me as a death without suffering
What he did to the fallen literary shocked me. I was NOT expecting full on Mortal Kombat fatalities from Optimus.
😅
But he's always been doing that lmao. Hell, he tore Grindor's face to bits with two 1000 degree sickles in the second film 😂
@@shame2189literal 5 minutes ago
@@shame2189better sure grindor said “no prime please “💀
Made you hit 1k bub
Thank me later
Watching these scenes in the movies always makes me wish there was a transformers soulslike
I like how dark and grossum the Michael Bay transformers are. The part where he's ripping his face apart, AMAZING
I do like that they actually portray Optimus as a soldier, not a superhero. He's in a war, so he has to kill people, even if he doesn't have to like it.
But he likes it A LOT
seems to me he enjoys it quite a bit
@@woooshbait5398who doesn’t?
@@fireiron369 idk
@@fireiron369 Wow. You actually typed that..
“Something you can say to your enemy and your girlfriend.”
Optimus: *GIVE ME YOUR FACE*
“Something you can say to your enemy and your girlfriend (after cheating).”
"You didn't betray me, you betrayed yourself"
The girlfriend: “where would you be without me??”
The guy: *”time to find out”*
@@davidgordillo6583 When she comes home with her Friends in tow.
"I will take you all on."
@@davidgordillo6583 then he fucking decapitates her lol
I rise, you fall.
Optimus is out here doing For Honor executions on everything
This is what 4 million years of nonstop war does to a person
"Freedom is the right of all sentient beings and I'm going to exercise my Freedom to free the living s**t out of you." - Optimus Homicidal Maniac Prime, probably
Yes
crap.
I'm accidentally read that with actual optimus voice in my head.
it surprisingly in sync wtf
i just immediately laugh
A true American hero. 🇺🇸🦅
He freed megatons head from his body
this saying is top notch gold ngl it made me laugh and dont fuck with optimus prime otherwise your life is toast
I just freaking love how Optimus straight up flayed The Fallen's face. Easily one of the most brutal scenes from the Bayverse.
There’s a point when Optimus just stops giving shits about morals and just goes all out
@@danb9460 I don’t get why people are comparing human morals to alien morals. People are acting like Optimus is evil for killing robot hitlers
@@Chadius_Thundercock because they like to idealize and compare ideals. Despite the fact that our ideology might be absolutely wrong in the eyes of some. It starts to get stupid and self righteous.
@@Chadius_Thundercock I'd have to agree. For all we know the first alien species we meet will have completely different morals from ours and we'd be calling them monsters but to them it'll just be normal.
@@Chadius_Thundercock remember, they had gladiator battles and shit. Megatron was one of gladiators, for example
The way Prime looks right at the camera as he punches the Fallens spark out of his body and crushes it
Can’t believe that this debate is still ongoing to this day, but Optimus Prime in the Bayverse has been through a lot.
If you know how Peter Cullen created the voice for Optimus, than you’ll know that this was the exact tone he was trying to avoid originally
And that’s why he’s not a writer. He still acts like it’s still the 80s and he’s doing G1. He’s essentially complaining that Optimus has evolved beyond his G1 version.
It’d be like if Adam West complained about The Dark Knight or any other darker depiction of Batman…except he didn’t because Adam West accepted that times are different to when he played the bat…hell he even did voice overs of some of the darker Batman lines.
Peter’s a great voice actor but he doesn’t have creative authority over Prime especially in a grittier version of him.
@@Lifeislikeadoughnut Prime can evolve past G1, he just doesn't need to say shit like "give me your face". I'd expect a comically evil serial killer to say that, not the leader of the good guys.
@@user-gy4ym5gd2b seeing what prime has gone through, I think him being a complete warlord is justified at this point.
@@SPEEDFRAK (This isn't specifically replying only to you, it's just that you are the most recent person to post on the topic) I can kind of see both sides of this. When I was growing up my main exposure to Transformers was the first live action movie, so that's the Optimus I mostly have nostalgia for, but I also feel like when I look at G1 stuff that the first movie's Optimus is closer to the G1 Optimus than he is to the Optimus of later movies. I feel like the live action Optimus is very interesting as a character but he also isn't really the same Optimus; rather than being an evolution of the character he is more like a reimagining of him, or a different character put into his shoes. Still a very interesting character, but not Optimus. I feel like the best way to enjoy the live action films is to think of all the characters as completely different characters; that's how I came to G1 and it's helped me to enjoy each version a lot better than if I was hoping for the live action to be an adaptation of G1. The new movies seem to be geared more as an adaptation of the original Transformers rather than a reimagining, and that will be interesting too. Idk, I love G1 and the live action movies will always have a place in my heart and I feel like we can appreciate each of them as their own independent works.
@@Lifeislikeadoughnut you don’t realize that Peter based Optimus Prime’s voice on his late brother Larry (who was a marine). When Peter told him he was gonna audition for a hero, Larry told him “be strong enough to be gentle”. Saying such things like “I’LL KILL YOU!” doesn’t sound gentle at all. Even I do agree that Bayverse Optimus’s actions were in 100% justified, these movies should’ve shown violence as a last resort a little bit more clearly so that the audience could understand why Optimus did what he did to those life threatening Decepticons. I’m not here to argue, I’m just here to say something.
Edit: I stand corrected. Dark of the Moon DID show Optimus only using violence as a last resort when other options are used up (it’s just that people overlooked it and continued to call him a psychopath). In the scene where Optimus pulls up at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, he doesn’t use violence as his first instinct but instead tries to speak to and reason with Sentinel who sided with the Decepticons but it sadly didn’t work so he was forced to retreat. In the end, Optimus did indeed use violence as a last resort to kill both Megatron and Sentinel because he had enough.
It may be totally against everything he’s supposed to be, but watching and hearing Prime rip apart some Decepticon baddies in IMAX as a kid will forever be a cherished memory.
@Lebron J its a big blue robot with glowing axes
shut up about reality
@@perky8390 nah d bag
@James Bivol i think it's about cool robots inspired by cheap plastic toys made to have cool big guns and glowing axes
if you think that a big blue robot with glowing axes is supposed to be compared to a real veteran, you're cynical and insane
@Lebron J that is the single most incomprehensible comment ive ever seen in my life
@Lebron J what the hell are you talking about