Self Propelled Not Working on Lawn boy? Easy Belt Replacement
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- Video tutorial on repairing self propelled on Lawnboy push mower. Fully detailed with close up pictures. Toro Part Number; 110-9429. Enjoy.
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Ok, so I followed this step by step, and outside of swearing a few times, everything works like new. Even tuned it up with the money saved on shop labor. You saved me a ton of coconuts, Thanks!
That's awesome! So glad I can help someone and save them money too.. 😊😊
On a scale of 1 to 10, this video was a 10. Very clear instructions - easy to follow. Thanks for posting!
Wow.. thanks! You're very welcome!
Thank you I would have never attempted this repair with out your instructions!!!
Glad to help.. You're welcome.. 😀
Rudy,
Your video was an enormous help to my first belt swap. Thank you so much.
Great to hear! Glad I was able to help and you're welcome.. 😀
this was one of the clearest repair videos I've seen. You make sure to get the camera angles into where it's easy to see what you're showing. Nice job.
Wow, thanks!
Thanks Brother...Your videos are showing kids how to do it right. I've been a small engine mechanic for over 50 years, and Yours are the best no BS methods. That is THE way to change a wasted drive belt. I know because I've done em all. Keep on wrenching. I subscribed because You're a good man. Take care. -Smythie
You're welcome and thank you so much for the great feedback! Thanks for the sub.. 🙂
Yes sir🤟🏼
You saved my life but especially my money 👍😃 Thanks
Awesome! Thanks for watching.... :-)
Great video sir! Very informative and helpful, thanks for the video
kfan1602 Excellent! Thanks😁😁😁
Thanks for the lesson !
Marshall Border You’re welcome 😊
Fantastic video! Thank you for posting this.
Glad you enjoyed it! You're welcome.. 😎
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@@albertokace4135 I don't. Other than prime video, Netflix etc..
Excellent video. Thank you!!
You are welcome!
Thanks for the great video.
You're welcome.. 🙂
tnx dude i am fixing my push mower like a pro... tnx
You're welcome...
This operation is soooooo much easier on a toro. Good information for all of those who have a self propelled lawn boy though.
I seem to remember it was about the same... but I could be remembering wrong.. I am getting old!... :-(
You do not need to remove the wheels to get to the bolts to remove the plastic guard, under the mower, just unlatch the height adjusters and move it either way
@@TheJimbo2210 That might be one way of doing it, but this way only takes a few minutes anyway. I don't see how you can get the belt off without removing that plastic guard. I think it's half a dozen of one and 6 of another...😊
Great Video.
Thank U!.. :-)
Well done kind sir!
Thank u!😊😁
Great video. Thanks
You are welcome!
Thanks. My mower is different but I see how the bits fit together and can now fix it,
Excellent! Glad I was able to help... 😀
You're the man, mower moves on its own again!
Excellent! Glad you got it going... :-)
nice very thorough. I don't get why people would unlike this
I appreciate the comment... I think I heard a wise man say once “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time!"
There are "dislikes" on Led Zeppelin songs, try figuring that out.
Great video!
Thanks!
Thanks for the belt replacement tips, I was stuck as to how to proceed. My belt didn't break, the drive shaft was rust seized but I want to replace the belt also.
You're welcome! Glad I was able to help.. 😀
Thank you very much!
You're welcome.. :-)
Nice job 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Thank you so much.
You're welcome...:-)
Thank you!
You're welcome... :-)
Thank you 👍
You are welcome
my belt slipped off, bet replace it, did just what you did, a little fiddling but works great, thanks
You're welcome! So glad to help...
Part # nice job.
You're welcome.
I so enjoyed you showing what I can do for myself, however I do not have a lawnboy, but a AAvix and I can not find any parts for this machine, have you ever heard of such name for a lawn mower, and if so where or how can I get my hands on parts.???
No, that's a new one for me... try www.partstree.com they have a lot of listings on there and might have a parts breakdown for it
Great great video thank you I followed every step and I have this model lawn boy model 10641 belt is Toro Part Number; 110-9429 after I finished the wire becam too long or too saggy it's not bullying is there any way to tighten that TIA
Is there an adjustment up by the handlebars where you engage the self propelled? Are you sure you have the right belt?
How you take out that pivot arm where the wheel bolt is screwed in? The wheel keeps falling off because the threads from that pivot are damaged. Bought the pivot but i have no ideea how to take off the bad one out. Help! Thx
I don't have that mower anymore, but from the pictures it looks like it pivots thru the drive gear... can u send a closer picture of it?
Thanks for sharing. LawnBoy advertises "variable speed" self propelled. How do you adjust the speed? The unit we've got seems so go too fast for me.
This mower doesn't have the variable speed feature. If you have one that specifically has that feature, you would increase the distance between the self propel bar and the handle.
@@JLPicard440 So does that mean the belt slips a bit if you only hold it half way to handle?
@@RotaryTeamVincent I don't know, I don't have one over here to look at. If it works like a lawn tractor, there's a pulley with a variable ratio when You shift gears, your just changing the ratio on the pulley. I imagine if the belt slipped when you slow it down, it would wear the belt out quite a bit faster, but it could be that's how they got it.
@@JLPicard440 Yes, I am thinking the same as you. The model is same as one you used in your video and no variable ratio pulley. So I cannot see how it can be variable as they advertise.
OH.. if that one I used was variable I never tried it!.. It's been long gone now, so I can't try it now until I get another one like it
I just did this operation but I used a 30" belt. The mower starts and stays in self propulsion mode (cant come out of it). I wasn't able to get my hands on the Toro 110-9429 today, but was wondering the size of it - Is it a 32' by any chance? Anyway Thanks for the tutorial!
HI, you'd have to look up the part number to the belt and see if it shows what length it is. I don't know just off hand. Yes, if it's stuck in self propelled mode, then the belt is to short.
@@JLPicard440 Thanks for the response!
Well did it work
Of course..
Yikes !! Didn't start off well when you blew off that first wheel. Epic Lawn Boy failure in design regarding belt replacement. What a joke! Thanks for sharing. Saves us a couple hundred bucks for the DIY'ers.
Excellent! Thank you... 😀
Thanks for the easy to follow video! However, now, after replacing the belt, I can't get the mower to start. It had about a half tank of fuel when I tipped it to get to the underside stuff. Is that what is the problem now? If so, how do I fix that?
Arrgh... check the air filter and make sure it didn't get soaked with oil... or pull the spark plug out and make sure it's not soaked with gas or something.. depending on which way you tip it, you can cause oil to go into muffler, or carburetor.. It sounds like something like that.
Take a Bath Productions yeah. Kind of figured it was something along those lines. Went back about an hour later and it started on the first pull. Thanks!
@@jbscamaro Awesome! Glad u got it going... :-)
At 8: 25 you started to put the wheel back on.At 8:27,it's on.My problem was how'd you get the fastner screw UNDER the wheel to catch? as i can"t figure it out.How'd you do it?
I was just holding the bolt with my hand. At 8:20 you can see it sticking through the center of the wheel. There was nothing to see where I cut the video. It was just putting the wheel on and tightening the bolt. Is that what you mean?
Belt bkoke so I'm looking for a cause...does the pulley on the transmission spin or fixed solid? Thanks
The pulley on the transmission has to spin to make the wheels spin. You should be able to spin it by hand and make the wheels spin.
In order to get the belt out, its hard to take the 3 screws out. It looks the screws are square shape drive instead of cross shape drive screw, are they? In your video, lt looks very easy to get them out, what kind of screw driver you are using? Thanks
I don't remember which size, but looking at the video they're a Torx type. Probably a T15 or T20. It's a six sided star bit that is quite common..I'm just not positive of the actual size
Mine had the square drive screws as well. It ended up being a square drive #2.
@@mikefisher8535 Thanks for the info...
Rudy - I have a ROVER 75M93 self-propelled battery start mower very much like the Lawn Boy - it is not driving as strong as it use to, so I replaced the belt and adjusted the cable but its still the same - is there a clutch inside the gearbox which may be the problem ?
No probably not.. usually there's some way to adjust the cable to tighten the belt a little more. If you close the handle for self propelled does it close real easy? Usually there's a spring on the cable itself. If that cable isn't pulling a little bit on that spring, it's to loose and the belt won't tighten up enough.
Great video Rudy - Look, I have the AWD front & rear wheel drive. I think the front axle gearbox is bad, but the rear wheels seem to work if the front wheels are raised off the ground. Do you think I can remove the front belt & just use it as a rear wheel drive?
If there's two belts, yes absolutely... If the front wheels cause any drag, as they sometimes to, you might be able to remove the wheels and remove the cog that engages the wheels to the transmission, and that should free them up.
About 1.5 months ago, we talked in your comment section. My mower is AWD and has 2 belts (mower model 17739).I took pictures but should have taken more, as I forget which belt goes on the upper pulley on the blade shaft and which goes to the lower pulley. Lawnboy.com sent the wrong belt, twice, for the mower, once to me and then the dealer. I can’t find a repair manual showing the process. Debating on gathering all parts and dropping off at service center but labor rate is $85 an hour. If So much time hadn’t’t lapsed, I believe I would have remembered what went where. Lesson learned, takes more pictures if you need to. Using your video and belt number for the rear transmission and will try assembly that way by also looking at your pulley height to see where the belt rides on the pulley. Ay try AWD function without blade for safety.
Oh no! That is a problem. If you go to parts tree does that model come up with the correct belt numbers?
I have a lawnboy model 10607 I put a new belt on it it keeps throwing the drive belt off when I put pressure on it
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Without seeing it, it's hard to say. Is there a belt guard thats missing? Something misaligned? Wrong belt?
Wish you had a Lawn Boy 10323 to perform this surgery on. Post one up if you get a hold of one! Thx
You're not in virginia are u? I'll do it!... :-)
My rear back wheel won't spin but the other side dose any advice I can feel it wants to engage
Sometimes the grease in the wheel will gum up... or it could be rust. You'll have to remove the wheel and clean everything up and put just a light coating of grease on the axle... Here's one video I did on this: th-cam.com/video/OF1KYP8NPv8/w-d-xo.html I also did an older one.
@@JLPicard440 tankz for ur feed back.
@@franciscohuerta9860 No problem.. 😀
I have lawn-boy model 10641. Need belt part number Can you help?
HI, if you go to a website like www.partstree.com you can plug in the model number at the top. That'll give you the parts breakdown and from there you'll see the part number for the belt...
Mine left back wheel pulling alot stronger than right??
real King take the right wheel off and check the teeth
What is the part number of the drive belt?
Brian Mott I've got it in the description.... thanks
how do u slow one down mine will get away from me quick?
No way to change the gears... but if you look at the carburetor there's a spring there... usually the spring is attached to a tab, you should be able to bend that tab and slow the engine down a little... you'll have to do it while the engine is running so you can hear what's going on. Obviously be careful not to put your fingers or anything else near any moving parts!... Like a blade for example....
mines turning but when it get any pressure on it it stops, any help??
The engine? or the wheels? If it's the wheels it could be a belt?
Thank you Rudy! Great help you gave us! Is your Lawnboy a Model 10685, Serial 270008330? I discovered with you the best covers on mine are missing (bought it used). So while looking in eBay for them, they're several and different than yours. Yet your mower looks similar to mine so maybe they're the same model and serial, so I think my covers have to be like yours.
HI, I don't have that mower anymore... Is there any part of the video that happens to show the model number on mine? I don't remember... I guess your model sticker must be gone or torn so It can't be read... :-(
@@JLPicard440 I can read my model 10685, but my desk looks more like the 10734 all round metal bottom where the blade is, not as the one you shown which had a plástico second back under cover. Thank you for responding. Lets see if I find a belt cover/gyard long enough that reaches the back metal round wall.
@@rodolfoplasencia4953 Arrgh... I am not sure on that one.. if your tag says 10685 have u looked up the parts breakdown on that one? does it look like yours?
@@JLPicard440 Rudy I did, and I still feel the 10734 may reach the edge of the metal wall mine has instead of the second plastic cover you removed protecting the transmission. The ones that appear for the 10685 look shorter to me. Is ok, I'll keep on looking. Maybe is my point of appreciation, I can be wrong but I see the belt guards/covers for 10685 too short. Anyways, I may try one to see how it works. Thank you for all your help brother!
Maybe order the part u need from Amazon? Reason is, they have a pretty good return policy... if you get the wrong one, you can send it back.. if you get it from ebay it's a bit more of a hassle... I would go with what the model number says first if it was me..
My self propelled lawn boy (model 10732) was having an issue when I tried to go backwards. The wheels kept locking up and I was basically dragging it. So I removed the wheels, took sandpaper and cleaned any dirt/rust/corrosion off the rod. Then I lubed everything up and put grease on all the gears. Now I don't have any issues and the wheels move freely in both directions. However, now I notice (and maybe a coincidence) a noise by the wheels when going up a hill almost like it's slipping and not engaging. On a flat surface it's fine. Any ideas? Could it have been any of the grease, wd-40 or silicone spray I used on everything??
The grease shouldn't have caused this. It could be that there's a plastic ring gear inside most plastic wheels. I wonder if one of the teeth are broken? If it's not that, the metal gear that comes from the mower usually has a pin thru it if you pull the gear off. That pin needs to move back and fourth freely.. it could be that too. It's hard to describe in this message here, so hopefully this made sense.
@@JLPicard440 if I remember correctly, the wheel has metal gears inside it that sides onto the shaft assembly which also has a metal gear (held on with an E-ring) followed by a plastic sleeve. That sleeve was super dirty and had wear marks on it. I tried to sand it down smooth the best I could and sprayed everything with silicone spray.
@@skutsenkow Yes you should be able to take that metal gear.. the smaller one held on with a E-clip and turn it one way and it turns freely, turn it the other way and it's locked to the axle.. did you try that? If it doesn't behave that way, it's because that small pin that's exposed when you pull the e-clip off and then the gear isn't moving freely inside that shaft..
@@JLPicard440 I don't recall how the smaller gear turned. I had remember applying some grease and it moved freely. Not sure I remember seeing any "pin". Are you saying it should only turn one way?
@@skutsenkow I can't remember for sure on this particular model, but normally the wheel should only engage in one direction. It makes it easier to pull it backwards when your working with a hill..
My 10515 lost 3rd gear and is losing 2nd, with a rhythmic grinding preceding loss of gear. It still runs fine in first, but shifting is a bit stiff. I figure this is either a slipping pinion gear (in the trans, not the wheels) or shift keys, any idea which is more common or more likely? What are the most common and likely failures in the Lawn Boy 3 speed gearbox?
I've never actually had one of those here for me to work on. I looked up the parts breakdown and there are three different gears inside of there with a pinion in common. There's a shifting mechanism that moves the gears from one gear to the next, sliding on a shaft I think. (From what I can see in the pics). If it was mine, I'd take it apart and see what's up.... it's already broke so you can't make it much worse! Sorry, I wish I had a better answer for you. It'll probably become obvious what's wrong, one you get to see inside. If you want to see the parts breakdown, plug that model into www.partstree.com is where I found it.
www.partstree.com/models/10415-lawn-boy-gold-series-walk-behind-mower-sn-005900001-005999999-1995/gear-case-ass-y-model-no-10515-10520-6/
@@JLPicard440 Thanks. I saw the diagram and have taken off the pan, but should have removed the ring gear to get a better look at the pinion, but was assuming at the time that it was probably the shift pins. The mower is 20 miles away from my web access, so I decided to put it back together and go learn more from the web. but now I'm thinking the sounds are more consistent with pinion than with shift keys. If I can find similar symptoms on the web, I might go ahead and order parts, but as is, I think I will take it farther apart without ordering parts. Even if the pinion was slipping, I might be able to close the gap with an added washer behind the ring gear, mow the lawn, and then consider ordering parts.
Yep. I've never seen one like that with actual different gears. Riding tractors use a pulley system that slips to enlarge the diameter or shrink it for the different gears. The transmission itself is only one speed.
@@JLPicard440 I saw the Snapper system last year for the first time, which looks like an old record player, but with a wheel instead of a needle. I imagined exactly that back in high school in 1983 when I first read in a car magazine about continuously variable transmissions. Tho only thing that makes Snappers not CVT is the notches in the handle.
Looks like great practice for students, before tackling cars. th-cam.com/video/mEbDvPTP2PU/w-d-xo.html
@@alan6832 cool beans! Thanks for the info
I do not do work like this. I am going to try it to see if I can. Good luck me.
U can do it!
I put a belt back on & it worked for a brief moment then came off. 🤔😔🙁 Would it be time for a new belt to solve this? Not a fun project
Possibly the belt is stretched out a little. There could be something bent though, take a look and make sure all the pulleys are lined up before you order a belt. Is there linkage to tighten the belt? I don't remember. If it's releasing the belt to much and it's to loose when not engaged that would make it come off too.
Have John Deere , only 1 wheel is now driving, is this a transmission issue?
It's possible, or it could be a bad wheel or gear. I would take off the wheel that isn't turning and see if there's anything in there to see that looks bad..
@@JLPicard440 , I did take the wheel off before I sent this message and nothing appears out of line, could the belt be slipping enough just to turn 1 wheel?
Good video! But why must you remove the wheels?
To remove those black bolts behind the wheels.
Can you tell me the full name of this lawnmower like what I need to find it I cant find this exact one
I don't understand the question..?
@@JLPicard440 sorry do you know the make and model of this lawn boy?
@@timetobeast7261 Oh sorry for the confusion. I don't have access to this mower anymore. The sticker with the model number is visible at 1:54, but I can't read the model number..
Dude, Awesome video, but I thought it was a Prank at 1st, because you look exactly like Steve Carell from the ANCHOR MAN movies..
Lol.... I had to look up a picture of him... maybe just the 5 day old beard!😊😊 (At least in the pic I pulled up)
Can you put a link for the belt
I will try to do that this evening. If you don't hear from me, let me know, it's because I Forgot.
Thanks for the video, but something was missing, all of the swear words, lol. I am a much better wood worker than a mechanic, hence, the occasional swears but I think I can handle this. Subscribed and Liked, also, thanks for the part number. mine is a Model # 17739, so I will double check it before ordering because I don't know the year or exact model of yours but it looks the same as mine. Now I just need to make it to store and back without contacting Covid-19. Wish me luck.
LOL... No, I try to keep things rated "G". U could always order the part from Amazon, it'll probably be cheaper and there's virtually no risk of getting sick... :-). But If you need it up and running quick and you have a local parts store, that would work out better since they have been shipping slow lately.. arrgh.
@@JLPicard440 I went to our local store and they didn't have any that they could cross reference. Thanks for the info.
My parts came and I wondered if I need to drain oil & gas,as it looks. Like yours mower is standing upright with the discharge opening on the ground. Thanks
@@BradySzabo It would be at your discretion, but I never have drained anything to change a belt.. :-)
I'm working on a model 17732. The transmission seized. It will drive the price of the repair up about 10x the cost of the belt.
Oh... yea a seized transmission is another problem! IF it's already junk, why not take it apart and see if you can spot the problem..?
That was easy. Now, Tell me how to get my wife to get out to use the damn thing?!!!
I can appreciate the belt being an easy fix! The wife can be another matter.. 😂
Just like the belt, you need to purchase a new one.
Was hear
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3/8x32”. Belt ...
I don't remember the size.
This does not fit a lawn boy 10642.......
The belt? Did you get the right one?
@@JLPicard440 I did the belt I got is a 32" and the one I need is a 31"
Ugh, seriously? No, not your video. The process. You shouldn't make it sound so straight forward. Basically, step one is to disassemble the lawn mower 🤦🏿♂️
It might look intimidating the first time, but it's not hard...😊
Oh no.... I did it. PITA.
@@danagreen4700 OH excellent! Glad you got it going.. 😊😊
tank tops in the work shop...............
That's my uniform!