If you have 500-1000ml of water on your face during your skincare routine, your biggest concern should be how you fell into the sink and getting out before you drown.
I can't stand when a "professional" gets politely corrected and instead of conceding and learning from it, they take it personal and immediately double down on their misinformation. Like, science isn't about your ego dude, it isn't about anyone. Instant unfollow when I see that type of behaviour.
It's one thing if you have additional information on the topic, but resorting to "they just want the views" tells me you didn't have much of a leg to stand on. If you're a scientist, you have to learn to take the L.
Exactly and new discoveries about the human body are being made all the time so if a doctor is unwilling to accept that it really puts people in danger.
I came here to say this! Just because someone was educated in a certain field doesn’t mean they know everything about that thing forever. You need to keep topping up that education, you need to learn from your colleagues, your peers, from new research. Things change and get disproved all the time. It shows a level of arrogance and a touch of ‘do you know who I am’ to ignore any studies done after your diploma.
“professionals” on tiktok: your skincare isn’t working because you didn’t triple cleanse, spin in a circle 3 times, and make a sacrifice to the skincare gods
Lauren knows what's up. I followed their guide of triple cleanse, spinning three times, made a double sacrifice and now my face shines like the sun❤ thankyou girl-queen-pussy-pop
"Dr. Charles is misinterpreting studies, using authority bias and his lab coats...." I just died laughing at this. In his first "I'm on vacay" video, he's lounging in bed and, once he's criticized, the next video has him donning a lab coat and glasses.
You know what you call a doctor who graduates at the bottom of their class? "Doctor" Lab coat ≠ expert in all things or above being manipulative for views
He probably wasn’t bad at school in order to get into Harvard. I think he just feels by going to Harvard he knows it all and he prolly isn’t the best in practice.
Not bad at school, but apparently didn't actually absorb any of the information on topics that weren't his MAIN focus. How do you not know basic chemistry an decide to ignore any corrections from people with chemist in their own title? @@happysloth3208
agreed but he went to harvard and duke: Dr. Charles Puza (Dr. Charles) is a dermatologist practicing in New York City. He received his bachelor’s degree with honors from Harvard University. He then completed his medical degree at Duke University School of Medicine.
I am a registered nurse and it never occurred to me that a doctor can become a doctor with a c average. After 20 + years I can say with confidence that morons, idiots, and fools can, and do indeed become physicians. It is chilling
Thanks for highlighting this issue! Really good point about the disappointing quality of dermatologist content - there are some great posts, but so much is just recycling early 2010s unqualified skincare guru tips. Did NOT know about the makeup thing, going to have to hunt down Robert's video! 🥴
"I'm not a scientist, but I've been an influencer for 10 years and this is not good content." Haha, this guy is getting called out from multiple angles 😹😹😹
Tiktok spreads sooooo much misinformation around skincare 😭 learned some of my best tips on there but also ruined my skincare barrier with the billions of products that were advertised to me everyday
For real, I’m in esthetician school and my instructor is constantly correcting tiktok misinformation! I’m still trying to decipher what is true or not from my small amount of previous skincare knowledge!
@@dime.overmatter well misinformation is misinformation, it needs to be corrected. he probably focuses a lot on what's happening on tiktok since a fair bit of common misinformation comes from there.
It bothers me how a doctor is devalueing the work of scientists in labs. They went through just as much schooling to make the products he gives in clinic.
As someone who has a PhD in genetics, I can tell you that the scientific education in MD programs is SLIM, and the hubris in MD practitioners is STRONG. You won't see me walking into an OR with a scalpel; maybe leave research alone if you don't have training in that field.
Exactly very true…I was going to type that. I have a PhD too and medical doctors do not have scientific education on research methodology and analysis. Only were few who are genuinely interested in research educate themselves.
I agreee. I’m in stem and my teachers are constantly complaining about the MD program and that they need more deep subjects since they are failing basic stuff they should have covered 💀
In a perfect world MD practitioners should be able to read and analyse new research information at least in our own field. Our work hours don’t include time for this, so we have to use our free time. In such case to carefully analyse one study you need to take hour or few from one or few evenings. The most we usually do, we read conclusions… Some MD maybe don’t do it at all. Additionally I agree that we use to many buzzwords like scientific, evidence based etc. without having a deep understanding about the study and its methodology. Also MD’s are very biased. There are lots of treatments Methods ( F.g. all sorts of physical or movement therapies), which lack of evidence based Data, because studies of such treatments are expensive, usually you have a lack of participants and you have to hunt funding from universities or private funds, cause pharmaceutical companies have no interest in funding treatments without medication. Patients experience recovery, colleagues also see good effects, but MD’s just denies such treatments.
You made this point so well. But a lot of people in my generation (I’m in my mid-50’s) consider MDs omniscient. I learned differently when my daughter was an RN on the hospital postpartum floor. She saw a lot of OB docs and pediatricians. One group knew all about pregnant women; one about infants and kids. Neither tried to do the others’ job. Humans are complex creatures. No one can know everything. For this doc to pretend he does is just silly. But will he go for the quintuple back flip…? 😆
Doctors like that guy are some of the worst. The condescension, the ego, the inability to admit mistakes or acknowledge that someone else could know better… Doctors like him don’t listen to their patients or believe their experiences, they believe that what they learned in a couple of lectures over a decade ago means more than the patient’s lived experience. Doctors like him put people’s lives at risk.
What’s crazier to me is that attitude is usually seen in older doctors, but this guy is relatively young! I can’t imagine how bad his attitude will be when he gets older.
I wholeheartedly believe that public misinformation should be ground for losing your licence (with governance to allow for genuine mistakes). Doctors should protect and enhance wellbeing and these influencers encouraging people to pop prescription pills like hair gummies is a genuine menace
I just came from Jen Luvs video talking about a company who put out a video saying SPF causes cancer and is toxic. So im all riled up and ready to get annoyed by people on tiktok😂😂
@JamesWelsh haha yup! The company is doll10. It's so bad. Their comments are soooo ignorant. My mom has had skin cancer twice so I'm ngl it made me a bit heated
I was breastfeeding my newborn son exclusively when I needed surgery under general anesthesia. My GP said it would be no problem to nurse my son after I woke up from my surgery. However the surgeon told me absolutely not, I had to "pump and dump" for 3 days after any anaesthesia and introduce a bottle to my newborn. I tried to question him. I knew he was wrong but it made him angry. After he left the room the nurse pulled me aside and advised me to ask for a consult with the anesthetist as she was sure the surgeon was wrong. The anesthetist was amazing, he even informed me the hospital had a policy that breastfed babies be brought to patients' bedsides to nurse as soon as they wake up, from any surgery requiring anaesthesia. Everyone was really supportive but it was funny that the surgeon was adamant that he knew best and was not to be questioned.
As a medical student who has worked with doctors for a while now - it is shocking how often the older generation docs have some personal theory of theirs that they preach as gospel and don't accept criticism on, at the same time enough new doctors just blindly listen without fact checking and perpetuate these things. That's how I got into an argument with a derm who said adapalene shouldn't be used longer than 3 months. 😅
Wait, the hospital had a policy that as soon as you wake up from surgery, your newborn is to be brought to you to be breastfed? So the surgeon wasn’t wrong since it’s hospital policy?
@@morgianasartre6709 that’s why I like young doctors. The best doctor I ever had was quite young. Prob mid 30s. His whole approach was completely different from anything I’ve experienced before. He actually seemed like he cared. I think older doctors are jaded or sick of their job or something cuz they all seem to rush through appts and don’t really do anything
@@stancexpunks The surgeon was unaware of the pro breastfeeding policy of the hospital and he had dated pseudoscientific beliefs that breastmilk needs to expressed and discarded for three days after general anaesthesia. Fortunately the surgeon's nurse pointed me in the direction of asking for a anesthetist consult as that is truly their area of expertise, not the surgeon's.
As someone with chronic illness, I cannot stress enough how many doctors do not know even the basics of my illness unless they specialize in it...and even specialists will say as the one living with it, I'm the expert as to its effect on me. "Doctor" does NOT mean all-knowing and you always owe it to yourself to educate yourself and double check anything they say that you have doubts about, be it an illness or skin care.
Heck I had a rheum tell me when I got diagnosed with EDS that she was dropping me as a patient because it wasn't her field. So I lost my way to make appointments at the Ambulatory Medicine Center. For a connective tissue disorder that gave me arthritis in all my major joints before I was 25...
Why is he acting as if he discovered the science himself... He just read a scientific article about the experiment.. now hes the expert. Wish i could become an expert by reading essays and articles 🤣
@@beckstheimpatient4135 yeah totally!! Some essays are super interesting and I like to share the information I read but I never claim them as fact or try and convince people with more knowledge on the subject than me 😂
Guys, these are not essays, they are scientific articles. In an essay you present your own personal opinion or argument, which is a big no-no in science. In scientific articles your own personal opinion or belief is not allowed to interfere with the results, thus it is not expressed. Essay: "This is what I think about glycolic acid." Scientific article: "This is what our experiments with glycolic acid show."
Honestly, I hate to say this but that’s how a big portion of most doctors would act if they were corrected even with scientific evidence backing the truth. I don’t even think it’s the content creator portion of it they just think they know more, all the time. I work with doctors every day of all kinds and you won’t be hearing an apology ever. I’m glad and grateful that there is other professionals doing there best to do damage control and minimize the spread of misinformation. Thank you 🙏🏻
Yea, they are full of themselves. In my country even medical students act like they're superior than others and just the smartest people in the world 🤭
Boy if I tell you how many times I had to literally argue with a doctor about something I knew to be scientifically proven.... Dermas would straight up think they know your skin better than you, go on automatic pilot(acne=extremely harsh treatment, even if you have sensible skin lol) and not listen. I had one trying her hardest to ignore me when I told her that her 200 euros treatment for my adult acne didn't work, not even an apology, straight up pretending I didn't just say that she wasted my money. I remember a couple of years ago, during the big wave of Covid in Italy, having some stupid med student insert himself in a discussion I was having with another passenger(who was not wearing a mask, which was obligatory at the time) on a bus, and saying that there are more cases of tuberculosis in our country than Covid, so ppl should not be alarmed. He straight up said he read that "on Facebook", I googled it because it sounded like bullshit and he was so fckn wrong I shut him up for the rest of a 4 hours trip.
This is so true, most doctors have huge egos and hate being corrected or called out, even medical students have this huge God complex, I’m a clinical psychology student and I had to do some classes with medical students and they were insufferable, and my sister is a doctor so I definitely know what you’re talking about 😂
Butter as a primer reminds me of that episode of Seinfeld where Kramer uses butter to shave, and he discovered that it made his skin feel so nice that he started bathing in butter. He was sitting in a pool of butter on the roof and fell asleep, so when he came back inside Jerry was picturing him as a roasted chicken because he smelled so good 😆
Yup :) But honestly, this whole greasy, glowy, dewy, shiny skin trend looks exactly like spreading butter over your face. I'd use margarine instead, since I'm vegan... :)
People don't realize that doctors do get gaps in their education-and they tend to get pissy when corrected. For example- they don't study nutrition in detail, so when one of them developed a vitamin with about 600% of everything needed daily ("600% that's great and everything you need!") and began pushing it on us nurses, they were doing it without the knowledge that too much of one thing can inhibit another vitamin and or its function, such as calcium inhibiting iron absorption, hugely important because taking iron is hard on stomachs and we should be receiving it via our diet. Too much calcium means we can't absorb enough of what we need. Too much Vit C can inhibit the absorption of Vit B-12, and the list goes on. That's not even taking into account fat soluble vs water soluble vitamins, how much/ what vitamins are excreted through urine, etc-so doctors truly are not the fount of all knowledge.
Welcome to the life of a Registered Dietitian, there's a whole job position in most health facilities and beyond because the science of nutrition is THAT complicated.
@rebeccawetzel8414 ❤️ I hear you! Even nurses don't get a lot of education re: nutrition, possibly 2 weeks out of a semester. (Long time ago, so I don't remember. ☺️) thank you for all you do!
I know there are some actual real ones out there, but I don’t trust or view anyone who claims to be a doctor on social media. There are just too many bad actors.
There are so many people with the Dr title on there that speak out there expertise on purpose. I just found a load of drs who are basically pretending to be derms when they aren’t
I would never want to be treated by a doctor who isn’t willing to learn and triples down on mistakes. Humility please Also it’s hilarious that to be serious he put on the lab coat AND THEN GLASSES? LOOK HOW SMART YOU ARE WITH YOUR GLASSSSESS.
you're absolutely right to question anybody in a place of authority. nobody is infallible, & often time people in power are not kept in check because those around them are at the very least, misguided as well, & at worst, purposefully corrupting things. be careful, be mindful, do research, stay safe 💕
C's get degrees lol--as a woman in a STEM career field, I don't think it's a coincidence that the first couple of chemists who corrected him were women and he melted down about his authoriTAH, doing the whole bit with his coat and whipping off those glasses. soooo common.
The man passed a fucking test and won’t shut up about it. My dude. I’m a nurse and I assure you, even C students can pass a test. I’ve worked with them.
Professionals in all these fields wanted to correct the mistakes they see online about their profession sooo bad that they’ve actually made it even harder to tell misinformation apart
I do wonder if professionals, like derms, spreading misinformation will end up having to deal with consequences via the medical license boards. If they give this advice in office and then it results in damage, they can deal with potential consequences (such as limitations to their license, suspension or losing their license). It is very dangerous to give medical advice outside of a medical setting, as a professional, especially when it's not accurate. Edit to add: Btw, I completely agree that those that give accurate info, without sensationalizing stuff, are great... Derms, cosmetic chemists, estheticians, and fellow skincare enthusiests have all educated me so much on skincare. But not all people that claim to be educated and professional meet both of those qualifications, which also being able to communicate their knowledge effectively with an online audience.
There needs to be some form of regulation in place. Regarding the kind of information that’s been given out. It’s fine enough to say ‘this is not medical advice’ but to then go on and spew BS or recommend medications is…odd right?!
@@JamesWelsh yes, I agree. There are already regulations on what medical professionals can give advice on in office, ethically, but I doubt they expand to online advice and content currently. (One of the many ways that regulations are severely behind societal needs.) But also, not all docs are spectacular, and unfortunately many don't stop to double check info that they read in school but may have misremembered when discussing just out of their specialty or didn't stay up to date on. (Honestly, I will always trust a professional that will stop to double check their knowledge and/or bias, and that is willing to say they were wrong, WAY more than someone who claims to know way more than you.)
They certainly would in the UK! Even if just in training, there's a really strong regulatory framework - tbh its almost too strong in some cases (in my experience)
@@JamesWelsh I can only speak for Canada. On paper, the regulatory bodies expect MDs to uphold a standard of care, but they definitely haven't caught up to the reality of social media. They've had trouble pursuing MDs who spread dangerous c0v!d misinformation, let alone skincare advice. Elon Musk is paying the legal bills for one of them
He's a young doctor. He hasn't been around that long. A lot of people who are new to their job are more butt holes than older ones. I'm a nurse and I've been treated awefully by doctors who are new to their positions, but the ones who have worked for years are nicer and knows how to listen to the nurse.
A doctor that listens to the nurse, takes them seriously, and respects their position as the one who sees the patient the most, is a good doctor. Signed, a soon to be qualified nurse (also if you want night shift doctors to love you forever, if you have to call them to come see a pt offer to make them a brew and some toast. They'll be there in like five minutes)
Not always true. I've recently saw a younger doctor and he was wonderful, he listened to what I was saying and made recommendations and explained why he was making them. My family Dr (he retired last year) was a grumpy old man that seemed prejudiced against women and very opinionated with dated opinions. Don't think that guy had read a medical textbook since he became a Dr, which was probably the 60s. I remember one time he told me to my face that he wouldn't do anything about my insomnia except prescribe me sleeping pills. No tests to see what could be causing it (it is a symptom of many issues) and sleeping pills don't fix the underlying problem and aren't meant for long term use and can really mess people up. I remember leaving his office and crying in my car because he basically told me I was fucked to ever sleep properly. Still suffer from it now but taking magnesium and stopping my birth control pills seem to have helped some.
That’s just not true. Your personal interactions make you believe that but on a social scale, it just depends on the person’s personality. Do you think this guy is going to grow old & have a change of character?! I don’t think so.
Dr Mike also did a video calling out that derm telling everyone to take the same medication every day, said it could actually be lethal for some people with existing conditions to take the medications he listed. Scary thought that viewers might act before fact checking and could become seriously unwell.
It's a good thing it's prescription at least, so hopefully the doctor who people would try to get it from would at least check for those conditions. Still, so irresponsible to do recommendations like that. Nothing works for every single person on the planet, certainly not medications, which are meant for the treatment of a specific condition. Medication has side effects even when used correctly and for its proper purpose, then it's just a case of benefits vs potential harm, absolutely insane to tell people to risk those side effects just because.
Any doctor (or really any person, but doctors should know better) who makes sweeping recommendations for medication or supplement routines for people in general is being irresponsible. Individuals have different needs and should be informed of potential side effects and risks. You can't recommend one routine for everyone.
Never trust a 'professional' who can't admit they were mistaken and can't be educated by other professionals who know more than he does about certain subjects. He's not a cosmetic chemist, so when cosmetic chemists tell him he is wrong (politely at that) about a chemistry topic, he should be humble enough to listen and learn a thing or two; it would only make him good at his job.
YOU NEED TO SEE WHY THAT PARTICULAR DOCTOR HAN (not sure if that’s his name but hes a Korean plastic surgeon i think) BLOCKED LABMUFFIN after she called him out! The tea is tea-ing jamessss!
Yeah! I remember myself liking him before but when he responded to lab muffin negatively (i also knew her and highly respect her background), i literally hit the unfollow button.
Omg I would’ve unfollowed too!! I’ve seen Michelle debunk herself (about brushing wet hair) so I really trust her integrity. Also she’s never rude, there’s no need to block someone as nice as her. Unless the truth hurts 🙃
This reminds me of one Christmas when me (then a student, now biologist) and my mum (a chemist) got into an argument with my aunt's bf. He claimed that the pH scale went from 0 to 7 and 0 was neutral. He refused to give in even after we told him our qualifications. We had to shove a Wikipedia article in his face for him to shut up.
I’m about to graduate from esthetician school and as people probably know, these schools don’t teach much, but one thing we learned real quick was how to neutralize an acid peel, and babe it ain’t with water😂😂
I am using the Ordinary Glycolic acid for years now and I've never experienced any issues with it (I have sensitive skin) and I am using it sometimes on my damp skin and put skincare products over it almost immediately. My skin always feels so smooth. This Dr. Charles guy gives me grifter vibes.
@@kayblossom8505 Wow, I've never thought about that. But I think it would be best to use a cleansing shampoo, just to be safe. I mean, I am not sure about the amount to apply and my scalp is sensitive as well, I just don't want to "gamble".
Doctors like this are why it took me 10 years of actively seeing doctors to finally getting diagnosed with Ehlers Danlos Syndrome. The egos, gaslighting and lies I was told were unbelievable!
That video on the kill cover foundation sent me when I saw it. and people do this all the time. "oh no, the super dewy light coverage foundation that comes in three shades doesn't look good on me, a super-oily skintype who wants full coverage in a different shade!!" why'd you buy it, bestie? "mm actually I didn't like this serum for drying out your oils, cause it just made my dry skin worse" or "actually the ceramide facial oil just made my oily t-zone even worse" what did you think would happen??? literacy is important y'all
Weird, I apply my serums, moisturizer, and sunscreen immediately after glycolic acid and it still exfoliates the shit out of my face. It's almost as if this guy needs to go back to skin school.
As a PhD, I despise it when MD's and other doctors spread misinformation. They give all doctors a bad name, and they are the reason there is so much mistrust within the medical and psychological communities.
I just saw a reel last night about using this glycolic acid followed by a thick moisturizer for KP on the arms, and ofc there were people talking about “deactivation” of the acid in the comments!! This type of misinformation is so harmful and pervasive! Thanks for using your platform to talk about this.
Through getting higher education I’ve kinda realised that most of these people are goofy 💀 there’s so much to learn it’s one of those “ the more you know the less intelligent you feel”
I LOVE Korean cushion make up. I have tried A LOT of western brands that don't work for me, both in color and texture. Finding the Korean type was a revelation for me. I am not Asian, but I have fair skin. My skin is also dry.
Korean makeup in general is great for natural beauty lovers, because the standard there leans much more heavily towards natural makeup being the preference. It's just ridiculous to say all cushion foundations suck when they're all different, just like foundations in other markets.
This Dr was called out by Dr Mike in a very polite manner recently and the way he reacted by blocking Dr Mike's social media (even blocking Dr Mike's dog's IG, wtf) proved how petty and egotistical he is. Like he couldn't stand the idea that someone corrected him at all
Unfortunately I don’t trust Dr Mike after he was out partying during the beginning of lockdown when people were still washing bags of chips in a desperate attempt to stay alive
As an esthetician, dermatologists like this GET ON MY LAST NERVE! They tout their medical degree and use it as a trump card. It’s wack-a-doodles like that man who make my job harder because I have to work 10x harder to debunk their LIES all because they somehow got a medical degree.
as a pale af person a lot of asian brands cushions are better shade matches than i find in western beauty because we like to make things for more warm tones/have an orange tint that being said, it is a bit disheartening that they aren't even making tones for the people they even have in asia because they are so obsessed with whitewashing and most koreans aren't even using their shade but most cushions i found to be my holy grails when it comes to foundations ngl and you're right that a lot of people are only going w/ western beauty standards when it comes to things this is also why i prefer east asian contours because they tend to be actually more gray in tone (like a contour should be) versus the western default of 'orange' different things work for different people, shocker lol we all like different finishes, we all have different skin types, skin tones etc. even my own brother is total opposite to me
James, your videos are consistently amazing, and I'm grateful for the opportunity to be included. Your support for science communicators is commendable ❤. The increasing use of authority by medical experts on social media is becoming problematic. My advice to everyone is to remain critical and always ask, "What is your actual expertise in this field?" When you encounter an expert discussing topics beyond their area of expertise.
I just learned that interpretating is an actual word! It's British English. This is why the internet is beautiful and can bring people closer. I would have thought someone was mispronouncing it, and I would have looked so uneducated. Thank you, James! 💜💜💜
To get an MD the number of chemistry classes he would have had to take, I just don’t understand how he can be that wrong. You learn this in general chemisty!!!
I'm a licensed pharmacist and have been trained how to compound medicine for patients. The stuff derms want us to throw together is WILD. Most of them can't be taught
That experiment Ava Perkins did with the pH and dilution was so interesting! Never have I been more convinced that what I know is ✨️limited✨️ 😂 Edit: and Lab Muffin about buffer systems! Very cool!
Love Michelle and her content. I like to imagine the creators suddenly hearing boss music whenever she posts a video debunking their misinformation. The person using the butter actually made me feel ill when she was rubbing it on her face and eating it. And like you say, it’s quite difficult to wash off when it gets on your skin. It feels gross.
The switch between the two stories is so funny to me & both are ridiculous! Once the butter story started & I saw her put the butter on her face, I got the shivers because ugh it looks gross
@@memonos ghee would be pretty similar to coconut oil, right? i can get behind that one but i can’t see butter work even remotely as a primer.. i’m assuming she’s not being serious but you just never know 😭
Hi! I am a product safety toxicologist for one of the largest consumer goods companies in the world. I just wanted to say thank you from the bottom of my heart to you and Robert both, for always providing TRUSTWORTHY, quality content... and always making a point to defer to experts where applicable. This is why the experts love your content and follow you too!
It's honestly kind of scary to me that I dermatologist doesn't know how skin care works... like I understand that they are not a chemist but if you don't have a fundamental understanding of how products affect the skin and work how can you possibly call yourself a Doctor who specializes in skin?
I'm SO HAPPY you're here to debunk misinformation on TikTok regarding skincare, James. Especially since you enforce your point using other very talented and knowledgeable content creators 🙏🙏 let's support and help educate and spread awareness in a positive and good way
I've seen some of his crap on TH-cam, and I just dismissed it. I love that you're calling this schmuck out, not discrediting his doctor of skin, but how dare he come for a chemist like okay!! Sit down 'Dr.' I remember my father laughing at Dr Oz walking out in his scrubs, and we all see the crap he tries to push. Stay your profession in the office and off social media. Cheers ❤
There is a history of using lard or tallow as a base for (cheap) face powder, usually by the poorer classes who couldn't afford the cold creams or pomatums of the day. Lard or tallow, not butter, and it seems to be something people used out of necessity or desperation when they couldn't afford anything else. Haven't tried it myself, may do at some stage just to see what it's like, but yeah definitely not the same as slathering on butter as a primer. Just use a proper cold cream if you're going to do that, it basically does the same thing and it's a heck of a lot safer for your skin.
@@shelby6 I have a cold cream/moisturiser that was recreated from the Regency era that uses lard as one of its ingredients, and I find it so soothing and nourishing to use as a night cream or just an additional winter moisturiser. Haven't tried Tallow, but have heard some good anecdotal reports. Butter on the other hand, yeah hello grease city!
I think tallow balms have been making a comeback in popularity in recent years! Makes sense to use tallow or lard, it’s just a pure fat like plant oils. But I’m pretty sure butter goes rancid real quick, especially if warm… like on your skin 😭
It was used by actors to remove make up. Cut half a block of lard in hal put in a bowl over a pan of water, when melted remove and beat with a fork to whip it up. Leave overnight in the bowl. Next day drain any remaining liquid if any. Add a few drops of rose geranium oil(the original way) or rose,or lavender oil. Beat to. In the oil. Pot and leave to set, if some oil surfaces beat in the pot and leav Use to remove make up. Dont use a lot. Remove make up again with it. Wash face or use rosewater as a toner.
@claireeyles7560 I have written a regency or Georgian recipe for an actors make up remover. It uses half a block of lard, approx 4oz. It would have to be used quickly in warm weather due to it being in unstable natural fat. I've tried it, it is good. I keep mine in the fridge. I use it as eye make up remover for waterproof mascara.
that glycolic acid bit was exhausting! Geez. I work in a lab and was listening to it while doing a lab project and just kept yelling in my head "A BUFFER A BUFFER!!" Then finally lab muffin talks about buffers. It's a basic lesson many even non-science lab techs learn (like me) like when I was trying to make something and was so frustrated the ph was all over the place then realized I forgot to add in the buffer. Oooohhh! Yeah that makes sense and teaches you quickly why a buffer is so important
I appreciate your business leader perspective on integrity and misinformation. Most people just point out how unethical it is, but I like the way you shared how it's just bad for a social media business to be so untrustworthy. Great thoughts!
Omg yes. I was about to about to make a video about why I am soooooo tired of influencers saying "BRUTALLY HONEST REVIEW"- like, there is a way to be direct when you are speaking, but the unnecessary harshness (that is often unfounded on anything specific or unique to their singular experience or preferences) like.... 😑 the product probably is for someone, even if its not you- and its more accurate (and impressive) to be able to speak about who else it may be for
Ive had really bad eczema since I was born. Im STILL angry that my mom slathered me in Crisco in the summer thinking it would help. Idk who told her that was a good idea but it was genuine suffering, like being fried alive honestly. I have no idea why anyone would use butter on their skin for fun....it also grossed me out to see her keep eating the face butter lol at least have a separate tub 😅
James has me so conflicted I want to trust his opinion soooo bad, but he is an internet person and you can't trust internet people, but his vibe is so trustworthy...AHHHH
I know chemistry is "not his area of expertise," but in the US, you generally need to have studied both chemistry and biology before going into any medical studies, including dermatology. And as a consumer, I would expect that any doctor I go to see would have at least a basic understanding of any other science that is relevant to their field. Science does not exist in isolation, and different fields overlap quite a bit. Chemistry is very important to how our bodies work, including our skin. And it's not as if the information he was getting wrong was particularly difficult or obscure. As Lab Muffin pointed out, this is high school-level stuff.
The two most valuable things grad school taught me was 1) how much I don’t know and 2) there are so many “smart” people that are sooo unintelligent. Seriously guys, “doctor” in front of someone’s name is NOT the end all be all. It’s hardly even the beginning. In fact, we should be challenging them the most. Do your own research! Evidence based and peer reviewed studies are available for free! (And PS if you find an article that isn’t free, reach out to the author, they are usually more than happy to share it with you!)
I mean....you can't go from one frame saying you love butter for that dewy, glowy look and then cut to a face full of matte make-up. These are different goals. Licking the extra butter off a finger kind of clinched it as a troll tactic, though. (Also, even with the benefit of the doubt, this is something you do when you're young. The idea of slathering butter on my face just sounds unpleasant.)
Thank you! Misinformation can be everything from annoying to dangerous. Before believing anyone, I check their ‘references’. Is that person actually who they present themselves to be? Reputation amongst peers? Does what they say make scientific sense? What is their motivation? (Clout, self promotion of products, money, etc). Just because it’s online doesn’t mean it’s true. 😂
Thank you for sharing this and offering your opinion as well! I 100% agree with your stance. Those dollar signs change so many individuals. I have been following your channel for a long time now, James, I am so grateful how consistent and humble you remain no matter how much more attention your platform gains 💚💜🧡
5:02 the problem I ha e seen on tiktok mostly is that so many ppl will see someone claim something, doesn't matter if it's right or wrong. They will then make a video stating the same thing with no research on it, then more ppl will parrot it. Misinformation is unfortunately then spread so fast that ppl then belive the wrong thing so firmly that they refuse to listen to reason. I've had to deal with a few ppl like that in the comments of different subject videos
I've been using the TirTir cushion that was recommended to me by another TH-cam channel you may be familiar with. I've also been embracing more of a "French girl" makeup look lately. I like it. I don't feel that the shade is quite pale or cool enough for me, but I'm used to that TBH. I've had to adjust how I touch my face. It isn't Estee Lauder Double Wear. It blends very well if you understand how to work with it. I think it looks great on skin that may find traditional foundation too drying - maybe it's settling into their fine lines. This looks youthful and glowy.
Thank you James. So many folks do not realise that a lot of Koreans and half-Koreans cannot use Korean foundations. I'm half Korean, and take after my Mother who has a darker Olive skintone, though I'm not as dark as she is, and the darkest Korean cushion foundations are typically about two to four shades too light for me, and about four to six shades too light for my Mother, oh, and rarely take Olive skintones into consideration. (Shades as in how much lighter than our skintone, not in that they have that much of a shade range) I usually have to add colour corrector and add a serum foundation that's a couple shades darker to try to make a close enough shade for me, because I do like a very light dewy foundation if I can find it, otherwise, they're all powders, and that just kills the dewy skin. I seriously hope K-Beauty will become more inclusive, as I'd love to be able to buy Korean base Makeup.
I started watching Dr Idriss online and her recommendations actually not kidding cleared up my hormonal acne and breakouts. I first started with baby bum rash cream with zinc oxide for 2 weeks every night. Healed right up! Than I started using her recommended Kate Summerville sulphur face was. Big difference too, then I started using the vanicream c serum, my scars look so much better! And finally I started using benzoyl peroxide products by PanOxyl. I use the cleanser first, then the Kate Summerville one (so double cleansing) the toner and the spf moisturizer. And she also recommended for any bumps that are just starting to use the PanOxyl acne patches or/& the Neutrogena Stubborn Acne Drying Lotion 29 mL. That stuff works too. I’m so glad to have found her! Luv ur content James always 🩷
I love when a content creator admits they don't know something. It makes me trust what they are telling me and lets me know they are honest and trustworthy! I trust you 100%!! Many blessings!!!💖💖💖
One of the most important things as a medical professional is to know your own limitations. Depending on your specialty it’s very possible to become an MD with only limited understanding of chemistry. (I’m saying this as an MD of internal medicine, who considers herself far from a chemistry expert herself compared). To me, the lack of self-reflection and insight from this doctor is even more damning than the actual misinformation.
If you have 500-1000ml of water on your face during your skincare routine, your biggest concern should be how you fell into the sink and getting out before you drown.
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That was my thought EXACTLY 😂. I was like, if there's that much water on my face, I'd me much more concerned about drowning than anything else, buddy!
This is gold 😂
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I can't stand when a "professional" gets politely corrected and instead of conceding and learning from it, they take it personal and immediately double down on their misinformation. Like, science isn't about your ego dude, it isn't about anyone. Instant unfollow when I see that type of behaviour.
Totally agree 💯
It's one thing if you have additional information on the topic, but resorting to "they just want the views" tells me you didn't have much of a leg to stand on. If you're a scientist, you have to learn to take the L.
Yea he was definitely embarrassed.
Their ego can’t 😅😀
Unfortunately egos are par for the course in many aspects of the medical field.
Being unteachable in any field, but especially in medicine, is so dangerous. No one can know everything and everyone makes mistakes. Stay humble.
tell that my docs.... urgh
Exactly and new discoveries about the human body are being made all the time so if a doctor is unwilling to accept that it really puts people in danger.
That’s why it’s called a “practice”
THIS ❤
I teach my kids this 😊
I came here to say this! Just because someone was educated in a certain field doesn’t mean they know everything about that thing forever. You need to keep topping up that education, you need to learn from your colleagues, your peers, from new research. Things change and get disproved all the time. It shows a level of arrogance and a touch of ‘do you know who I am’ to ignore any studies done after your diploma.
“professionals” on tiktok: your skincare isn’t working because you didn’t triple cleanse, spin in a circle 3 times, and make a sacrifice to the skincare gods
😂😂👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
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I mean the skincare gods gave me good genes
Lauren knows what's up. I followed their guide of triple cleanse, spinning three times, made a double sacrifice and now my face shines like the sun❤ thankyou girl-queen-pussy-pop
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"Dr. Charles is misinterpreting studies, using authority bias and his lab coats...." I just died laughing at this. In his first "I'm on vacay" video, he's lounging in bed and, once he's criticized, the next video has him donning a lab coat and glasses.
And he is sunburned AF! How the hell are we supposed to trust a sunburned dermatologist!?
I would bet a large sum of money that those glasses have lenses with no correction 🤣
@@Sentient_GooseTHIS
@@Sentient_GooseI was once referred to an incredibly suntanned doctor when I relocated to the Miami area. I just couldn’t take him seriously!
A lab coat and glasses ... in what looks like his own kitchen?? LOLOL
As a non dermatologist MD, I have second hand embarrassment by that dermatologist thinking he knows more about chemistry than the chemists 🤦♀️
You know what you call a doctor who graduates at the bottom of their class?
"Doctor"
Lab coat ≠ expert in all things or above being manipulative for views
Apparently you call him Charles
He probably wasn’t bad at school in order to get into Harvard. I think he just feels by going to Harvard he knows it all and he prolly isn’t the best in practice.
Not bad at school, but apparently didn't actually absorb any of the information on topics that weren't his MAIN focus. How do you not know basic chemistry an decide to ignore any corrections from people with chemist in their own title? @@happysloth3208
agreed but he went to harvard and duke: Dr. Charles Puza (Dr. Charles) is a dermatologist practicing in New York City. He received his bachelor’s degree with honors from Harvard University. He then completed his medical degree at Duke University School of Medicine.
I am a registered nurse and it never occurred to me that a doctor can become a doctor with a c average. After 20 + years I can say with confidence that morons, idiots, and fools can, and do indeed become physicians. It is chilling
Thanks for highlighting this issue! Really good point about the disappointing quality of dermatologist content - there are some great posts, but so much is just recycling early 2010s unqualified skincare guru tips. Did NOT know about the makeup thing, going to have to hunt down Robert's video! 🥴
Love ya MUFFIN!!!!
I really like shereen idriss content she makes finding good products cheap and easy to understand
"I'm not a scientist, but I've been an influencer for 10 years and this is not good content." Haha, this guy is getting called out from multiple angles 😹😹😹
Tiktok spreads sooooo much misinformation around skincare 😭 learned some of my best tips on there but also ruined my skincare barrier with the billions of products that were advertised to me everyday
Some of the advice on TikTok is like TH-cam 8 years ago 😭 so much misinformation and outdated views
Biden is banning it for a reason 😂
For real, I’m in esthetician school and my instructor is constantly correcting tiktok misinformation! I’m still trying to decipher what is true or not from my small amount of previous skincare knowledge!
@@JamesWelsh sometimes I wonder why you focus so much on TikTok nonsense when this isn't TikTok...
@@dime.overmatter well misinformation is misinformation, it needs to be corrected. he probably focuses a lot on what's happening on tiktok since a fair bit of common misinformation comes from there.
It bothers me how a doctor is devalueing the work of scientists in labs. They went through just as much schooling to make the products he gives in clinic.
Michelle from LMB is the Final Boss for people who post cosmetic BS.
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Period
Who is that? Can you tell me their youtube channel name? I don’t use tiktok, sorry.
@@shrxddhu1822 lab muffin beauty
@@shrxddhu1822 she's the one who commented a 😂 on this thread, LabMuffinBeauty here on TH-cam
When Auntie Michelle weighs in on your bullshit tiktok, you effed up big time. We love Auntie Labmuffin 🥰
That just when you have to admit you e made a mistake!
As someone who has a PhD in genetics, I can tell you that the scientific education in MD programs is SLIM, and the hubris in MD practitioners is STRONG. You won't see me walking into an OR with a scalpel; maybe leave research alone if you don't have training in that field.
Exactly very true…I was going to type that. I have a PhD too and medical doctors do not have scientific education on research methodology and analysis. Only were few who are genuinely interested in research educate themselves.
Another PhD here. Totally agree with you!
I agreee. I’m in stem and my teachers are constantly complaining about the MD program and that they need more deep subjects since they are failing basic stuff they should have covered 💀
In a perfect world MD practitioners should be able to read and analyse new research information at least in our own field. Our work hours don’t include time for this, so we have to use our free time. In such case to carefully analyse one study you need to take hour or few from one or few evenings. The most we usually do, we read conclusions… Some MD maybe don’t do it at all.
Additionally I agree that we use to many buzzwords like scientific, evidence based etc. without having a deep understanding about the study and its methodology.
Also MD’s are very biased. There are lots of treatments Methods ( F.g. all sorts of physical or movement therapies), which lack of evidence based Data, because studies of such treatments are expensive, usually you have a lack of participants and you have to hunt funding from universities or private funds, cause pharmaceutical companies have no interest in funding treatments without medication. Patients experience recovery, colleagues also see good effects, but MD’s just denies such treatments.
You made this point so well. But a lot of people in my generation (I’m in my mid-50’s) consider MDs omniscient. I learned differently when my daughter was an RN on the hospital postpartum floor. She saw a lot of OB docs and pediatricians. One group knew all about pregnant women; one about infants and kids. Neither tried to do the others’ job. Humans are complex creatures. No one can know everything. For this doc to pretend he does is just silly. But will he go for the quintuple back flip…? 😆
Doctors like that guy are some of the worst. The condescension, the ego, the inability to admit mistakes or acknowledge that someone else could know better… Doctors like him don’t listen to their patients or believe their experiences, they believe that what they learned in a couple of lectures over a decade ago means more than the patient’s lived experience. Doctors like him put people’s lives at risk.
What’s crazier to me is that attitude is usually seen in older doctors, but this guy is relatively young! I can’t imagine how bad his attitude will be when he gets older.
I wholeheartedly believe that public misinformation should be ground for losing your licence (with governance to allow for genuine mistakes). Doctors should protect and enhance wellbeing and these influencers encouraging people to pop prescription pills like hair gummies is a genuine menace
I just came from Jen Luvs video talking about a company who put out a video saying SPF causes cancer and is toxic. So im all riled up and ready to get annoyed by people on tiktok😂😂
The lady who ended up being a chiropractor?!
@JamesWelsh Jen Luv is a TH-cam creator. She covers news in the makeup industry, reviews products and product launches.
@JamesWelsh haha yup! The company is doll10. It's so bad. Their comments are soooo ignorant. My mom has had skin cancer twice so I'm ngl it made me a bit heated
@rockergirl6926 no he was referencing the company who was saying that, not Jen.
@@AKbaby89 Oops! Thanks for clarifying! Sorry @JamesWelsh!
I was breastfeeding my newborn son exclusively when I needed surgery under general anesthesia. My GP said it would be no problem to nurse my son after I woke up from my surgery. However the surgeon told me absolutely not, I had to "pump and dump" for 3 days after any anaesthesia and introduce a bottle to my newborn. I tried to question him. I knew he was wrong but it made him angry. After he left the room the nurse pulled me aside and advised me to ask for a consult with the anesthetist as she was sure the surgeon was wrong. The anesthetist was amazing, he even informed me the hospital had a policy that breastfed babies be brought to patients' bedsides to nurse as soon as they wake up, from any surgery requiring anaesthesia. Everyone was really supportive but it was funny that the surgeon was adamant that he knew best and was not to be questioned.
As a medical student who has worked with doctors for a while now - it is shocking how often the older generation docs have some personal theory of theirs that they preach as gospel and don't accept criticism on, at the same time enough new doctors just blindly listen without fact checking and perpetuate these things. That's how I got into an argument with a derm who said adapalene shouldn't be used longer than 3 months. 😅
@morgianasartre6709 older generation doc are better than you guys. We used to trust them we don't trust you.
Wait, the hospital had a policy that as soon as you wake up from surgery, your newborn is to be brought to you to be breastfed? So the surgeon wasn’t wrong since it’s hospital policy?
@@morgianasartre6709 that’s why I like young doctors. The best doctor I ever had was quite young. Prob mid 30s. His whole approach was completely different from anything I’ve experienced before. He actually seemed like he cared. I think older doctors are jaded or sick of their job or something cuz they all seem to rush through appts and don’t really do anything
@@stancexpunks The surgeon was unaware of the pro breastfeeding policy of the hospital and he had dated pseudoscientific beliefs that breastmilk needs to expressed and discarded for three days after general anaesthesia. Fortunately the surgeon's nurse pointed me in the direction of asking for a anesthetist consult as that is truly their area of expertise, not the surgeon's.
As someone with chronic illness, I cannot stress enough how many doctors do not know even the basics of my illness unless they specialize in it...and even specialists will say as the one living with it, I'm the expert as to its effect on me.
"Doctor" does NOT mean all-knowing and you always owe it to yourself to educate yourself and double check anything they say that you have doubts about, be it an illness or skin care.
Heck I had a rheum tell me when I got diagnosed with EDS that she was dropping me as a patient because it wasn't her field. So I lost my way to make appointments at the Ambulatory Medicine Center.
For a connective tissue disorder that gave me arthritis in all my major joints before I was 25...
@@-Ghostess ugh, so sorry!
Why is he acting as if he discovered the science himself... He just read a scientific article about the experiment.. now hes the expert. Wish i could become an expert by reading essays and articles 🤣
That would be so much cheaper than college.
You should still read the essays! It's always good to have some form of understanding of, well, everything!
@@beckstheimpatient4135 yeah totally!! Some essays are super interesting and I like to share the information I read but I never claim them as fact or try and convince people with more knowledge on the subject than me 😂
He didn’t read anything in full, I’m sure. If he did, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. It hurts 😭😭
Guys, these are not essays, they are scientific articles. In an essay you present your own personal opinion or argument, which is a big no-no in science. In scientific articles your own personal opinion or belief is not allowed to interfere with the results, thus it is not expressed.
Essay: "This is what I think about glycolic acid."
Scientific article: "This is what our experiments with glycolic acid show."
Honestly, I hate to say this but that’s how a big portion of most doctors would act if they were corrected even with scientific evidence backing the truth. I don’t even think it’s the content creator portion of it they just think they know more, all the time. I work with doctors every day of all kinds and you won’t be hearing an apology ever. I’m glad and grateful that there is other professionals doing there best to do damage control and minimize the spread of misinformation. Thank you 🙏🏻
yuuup, doctors HATE being corrected
Yea, they are full of themselves. In my country even medical students act like they're superior than others and just the smartest people in the world 🤭
Boy if I tell you how many times I had to literally argue with a doctor about something I knew to be scientifically proven....
Dermas would straight up think they know your skin better than you, go on automatic pilot(acne=extremely harsh treatment, even if you have sensible skin lol) and not listen.
I had one trying her hardest to ignore me when I told her that her 200 euros treatment for my adult acne didn't work, not even an apology, straight up pretending I didn't just say that she wasted my money.
I remember a couple of years ago, during the big wave of Covid in Italy, having some stupid med student insert himself in a discussion I was having with another passenger(who was not wearing a mask, which was obligatory at the time) on a bus, and saying that there are more cases of tuberculosis in our country than Covid, so ppl should not be alarmed. He straight up said he read that "on Facebook", I googled it because it sounded like bullshit and he was so fckn wrong I shut him up for the rest of a 4 hours trip.
This is so true, most doctors have huge egos and hate being corrected or called out, even medical students have this huge God complex, I’m a clinical psychology student and I had to do some classes with medical students and they were insufferable, and my sister is a doctor so I definitely know what you’re talking about 😂
Butter as a primer reminds me of that episode of Seinfeld where Kramer uses butter to shave, and he discovered that it made his skin feel so nice that he started bathing in butter. He was sitting in a pool of butter on the roof and fell asleep, so when he came back inside Jerry was picturing him as a roasted chicken because he smelled so good 😆
Haha yes!! 😂
YES! I couldn't stop thinking about it. (I think it was Newman, though, who was picturing Kramer as the roast chicken.)
Yup :)
But honestly, this whole greasy, glowy, dewy, shiny skin trend looks exactly like spreading butter over your face.
I'd use margarine instead, since I'm vegan... :)
Omg yes! Newman stirring Kramer like a soup! 😂
@@AliceHunter-0827Yes it was definitely Newman in the coffee shop. 😂
People don't realize that doctors do get gaps in their education-and they tend to get pissy when corrected.
For example- they don't study nutrition in detail, so when one of them developed a vitamin with about 600% of everything needed daily ("600% that's great and everything you need!") and began pushing it on us nurses, they were doing it without the knowledge that too much of one thing can inhibit another vitamin and or its function, such as calcium inhibiting iron absorption, hugely important because taking iron is hard on stomachs and we should be receiving it via our diet. Too much calcium means we can't absorb enough of what we need.
Too much Vit C can inhibit the absorption of Vit B-12, and the list goes on.
That's not even taking into account fat soluble vs water soluble vitamins, how much/ what vitamins are excreted through urine, etc-so doctors truly are not the fount of all knowledge.
Welcome to the life of a Registered Dietitian, there's a whole job position in most health facilities and beyond because the science of nutrition is THAT complicated.
@rebeccawetzel8414 ❤️ I hear you! Even nurses don't get a lot of education re: nutrition, possibly 2 weeks out of a semester. (Long time ago, so I don't remember. ☺️) thank you for all you do!
@@thesussexbunion, And thanks for all you do also!
I LOVEEE how the dude put a white coat and glasses on and was like "i know what i am doing" when he didnt😂😂
Yessss that's what I thought. Lol, lemme put on my glasses so I look extra clever.
I know there are some actual real ones out there, but I don’t trust or view anyone who claims to be a doctor on social media. There are just too many bad actors.
There are so many people with the Dr title on there that speak out there expertise on purpose. I just found a load of drs who are basically pretending to be derms when they aren’t
I would never want to be treated by a doctor who isn’t willing to learn and triples down on mistakes. Humility please
Also it’s hilarious that to be serious he put on the lab coat AND THEN GLASSES? LOOK HOW SMART YOU ARE WITH YOUR GLASSSSESS.
you're absolutely right to question anybody in a place of authority. nobody is infallible, & often time people in power are not kept in check because those around them are at the very least, misguided as well, & at worst, purposefully corrupting things. be careful, be mindful, do research, stay safe 💕
I like Dr Idriss
@@JamesWelshNow TH-cam has this feature where a doctor can be verified. This should be a norm and the standards should be made public.
C's get degrees lol--as a woman in a STEM career field, I don't think it's a coincidence that the first couple of chemists who corrected him were women and he melted down about his authoriTAH, doing the whole bit with his coat and whipping off those glasses. soooo common.
If I hear "I'm a board certified dermatologist" again I'm going to scream 😭 so sick of it, I just swipe up the second they say it.
Me too. I’m tired of this. Every time I listen to this I continue scrolling
Clearly that board needs to reevaluate who they certify
The man passed a fucking test and won’t shut up about it. My dude. I’m a nurse and I assure you, even C students can pass a test. I’ve worked with them.
This guy is a joke but there are definitely good dermatologists on social media who share their knowledge.
Professionals in all these fields wanted to correct the mistakes they see online about their profession sooo bad that they’ve actually made it even harder to tell misinformation apart
I do wonder if professionals, like derms, spreading misinformation will end up having to deal with consequences via the medical license boards. If they give this advice in office and then it results in damage, they can deal with potential consequences (such as limitations to their license, suspension or losing their license). It is very dangerous to give medical advice outside of a medical setting, as a professional, especially when it's not accurate.
Edit to add:
Btw, I completely agree that those that give accurate info, without sensationalizing stuff, are great... Derms, cosmetic chemists, estheticians, and fellow skincare enthusiests have all educated me so much on skincare. But not all people that claim to be educated and professional meet both of those qualifications, which also being able to communicate their knowledge effectively with an online audience.
There needs to be some form of regulation in place. Regarding the kind of information that’s been given out. It’s fine enough to say ‘this is not medical advice’ but to then go on and spew BS or recommend medications is…odd right?!
@@JamesWelsh yes, I agree. There are already regulations on what medical professionals can give advice on in office, ethically, but I doubt they expand to online advice and content currently. (One of the many ways that regulations are severely behind societal needs.) But also, not all docs are spectacular, and unfortunately many don't stop to double check info that they read in school but may have misremembered when discussing just out of their specialty or didn't stay up to date on. (Honestly, I will always trust a professional that will stop to double check their knowledge and/or bias, and that is willing to say they were wrong, WAY more than someone who claims to know way more than you.)
They certainly would in the UK! Even if just in training, there's a really strong regulatory framework - tbh its almost too strong in some cases (in my experience)
@@JamesWelsh I can only speak for Canada. On paper, the regulatory bodies expect MDs to uphold a standard of care, but they definitely haven't caught up to the reality of social media. They've had trouble pursuing MDs who spread dangerous c0v!d misinformation, let alone skincare advice. Elon Musk is paying the legal bills for one of them
I can imagine Paula Dean furiously writing down ideas for butter based makeup after she sees that tiktok 6 months later on Facebook
He's a young doctor. He hasn't been around that long. A lot of people who are new to their job are more butt holes than older ones. I'm a nurse and I've been treated awefully by doctors who are new to their positions, but the ones who have worked for years are nicer and knows how to listen to the nurse.
Experience is king. The older ones KNOW the more you listen the more you know plus commit less errors. Dunning Kruger effect in action I suppose.
As a pharmacist, I totally agree with you. He's actually worse but I totally agree with you.
A doctor that listens to the nurse, takes them seriously, and respects their position as the one who sees the patient the most, is a good doctor.
Signed, a soon to be qualified nurse
(also if you want night shift doctors to love you forever, if you have to call them to come see a pt offer to make them a brew and some toast. They'll be there in like five minutes)
Not always true. I've recently saw a younger doctor and he was wonderful, he listened to what I was saying and made recommendations and explained why he was making them. My family Dr (he retired last year) was a grumpy old man that seemed prejudiced against women and very opinionated with dated opinions. Don't think that guy had read a medical textbook since he became a Dr, which was probably the 60s. I remember one time he told me to my face that he wouldn't do anything about my insomnia except prescribe me sleeping pills. No tests to see what could be causing it (it is a symptom of many issues) and sleeping pills don't fix the underlying problem and aren't meant for long term use and can really mess people up. I remember leaving his office and crying in my car because he basically told me I was fucked to ever sleep properly. Still suffer from it now but taking magnesium and stopping my birth control pills seem to have helped some.
That’s just not true. Your personal interactions make you believe that but on a social scale, it just depends on the person’s personality. Do you think this guy is going to grow old & have a change of character?! I don’t think so.
Dr Mike also did a video calling out that derm telling everyone to take the same medication every day, said it could actually be lethal for some people with existing conditions to take the medications he listed. Scary thought that viewers might act before fact checking and could become seriously unwell.
It's a good thing it's prescription at least, so hopefully the doctor who people would try to get it from would at least check for those conditions. Still, so irresponsible to do recommendations like that. Nothing works for every single person on the planet, certainly not medications, which are meant for the treatment of a specific condition. Medication has side effects even when used correctly and for its proper purpose, then it's just a case of benefits vs potential harm, absolutely insane to tell people to risk those side effects just because.
Any doctor (or really any person, but doctors should know better) who makes sweeping recommendations for medication or supplement routines for people in general is being irresponsible.
Individuals have different needs and should be informed of potential side effects and risks. You can't recommend one routine for everyone.
Never trust a 'professional' who can't admit they were mistaken and can't be educated by other professionals who know more than he does about certain subjects. He's not a cosmetic chemist, so when cosmetic chemists tell him he is wrong (politely at that) about a chemistry topic, he should be humble enough to listen and learn a thing or two; it would only make him good at his job.
YOU NEED TO SEE WHY THAT PARTICULAR DOCTOR HAN (not sure if that’s his name but hes a Korean plastic surgeon i think) BLOCKED LABMUFFIN after she called him out! The tea is tea-ing jamessss!
Yeah! I remember myself liking him before but when he responded to lab muffin negatively (i also knew her and highly respect her background), i literally hit the unfollow button.
Oooh I missed this!!
It's dr. Youn I think 🤭
Omg I would’ve unfollowed too!! I’ve seen Michelle debunk herself (about brushing wet hair) so I really trust her integrity. Also she’s never rude, there’s no need to block someone as nice as her. Unless the truth hurts 🙃
What happened?
This reminds me of one Christmas when me (then a student, now biologist) and my mum (a chemist) got into an argument with my aunt's bf. He claimed that the pH scale went from 0 to 7 and 0 was neutral. He refused to give in even after we told him our qualifications. We had to shove a Wikipedia article in his face for him to shut up.
I hate how some people will double and triple down on their misinformation instead of just listening!
Cosmetic chemists breaking out the experiments for proof is so satisfying
I’m about to graduate from esthetician school and as people probably know, these schools don’t teach much, but one thing we learned real quick was how to neutralize an acid peel, and babe it ain’t with water😂😂
I am using the Ordinary Glycolic acid for years now and I've never experienced any issues with it (I have sensitive skin) and I am using it sometimes on my damp skin and put skincare products over it almost immediately.
My skin always feels so smooth.
This Dr. Charles guy gives me grifter vibes.
Have you ever sprayed it on your scalp? I want to try it but worried about my hair lol
@@kayblossom8505 Wow, I've never thought about that.
But I think it would be best to use a cleansing shampoo, just to be safe.
I mean, I am not sure about the amount to apply and my scalp is sensitive as well, I just don't want to "gamble".
@@The_Catnip I get you
Doctors like this are why it took me 10 years of actively seeing doctors to finally getting diagnosed with Ehlers Danlos Syndrome. The egos, gaslighting and lies I was told were unbelievable!
THIS.
That video on the kill cover foundation sent me when I saw it. and people do this all the time. "oh no, the super dewy light coverage foundation that comes in three shades doesn't look good on me, a super-oily skintype who wants full coverage in a different shade!!" why'd you buy it, bestie? "mm actually I didn't like this serum for drying out your oils, cause it just made my dry skin worse" or "actually the ceramide facial oil just made my oily t-zone even worse" what did you think would happen??? literacy is important y'all
Weird, I apply my serums, moisturizer, and sunscreen immediately after glycolic acid and it still exfoliates the shit out of my face. It's almost as if this guy needs to go back to skin school.
When you started with ”he quadrupled down” I thought you were joking… hilarious 😂
As a PhD, I despise it when MD's and other doctors spread misinformation. They give all doctors a bad name, and they are the reason there is so much mistrust within the medical and psychological communities.
When you said he was a Harvard graduate it all clicked….
Wait, do they hand out overinflated egos along with their degrees or something?
@@EmL-kg5gnFrankly, yes. Harvard is alllll about their prestige and they never let you forget it.
it's funny how harvard students think they're superior their grades are actually inflated. they're just insufferable.
Loved this long discussion, the MD roast was priceless 😂 And shout out to Lab Muffin, that's my girl!!!
I just saw a reel last night about using this glycolic acid followed by a thick moisturizer for KP on the arms, and ofc there were people talking about “deactivation” of the acid in the comments!! This type of misinformation is so harmful and pervasive! Thanks for using your platform to talk about this.
And then we blame the sephora kids for what they do in a world of adults doing such claims
I think that’s all over TikTok-which is why I don’t have it :)
seriously
Through getting higher education I’ve kinda realised that most of these people are goofy 💀 there’s so much to learn it’s one of those “ the more you know the less intelligent you feel”
In defiance I’ve just applied my THE ORDINARY GLYCOLIC ACID immediately after washing my face. mwha ha ha 😝
Is there any evidence that guy is who/what he says he is? Because even I know the difference between neutralizing an acid vs. diluting it.
I believe there is. It just appears he can’t handle others knowing more than him!
I LOVE Korean cushion make up. I have tried A LOT of western brands that don't work for me, both in color and texture. Finding the Korean type was a revelation for me. I am not Asian, but I have fair skin. My skin is also dry.
Korean makeup in general is great for natural beauty lovers, because the standard there leans much more heavily towards natural makeup being the preference. It's just ridiculous to say all cushion foundations suck when they're all different, just like foundations in other markets.
This Dr was called out by Dr Mike in a very polite manner recently and the way he reacted by blocking Dr Mike's social media (even blocking Dr Mike's dog's IG, wtf) proved how petty and egotistical he is. Like he couldn't stand the idea that someone corrected him at all
Unfortunately I don’t trust Dr Mike after he was out partying during the beginning of lockdown when people were still washing bags of chips in a desperate attempt to stay alive
He blocked Bear?!
@0:50 I know Robert handled him properly so after this video I’m literally gonna cyber dash over to watch him work 😂😂😂😂
As an esthetician, dermatologists like this GET ON MY LAST NERVE! They tout their medical degree and use it as a trump card. It’s wack-a-doodles like that man who make my job harder because I have to work 10x harder to debunk their LIES all because they somehow got a medical degree.
It goes both ways. I’ve seen estheticians spout nonsense too.
as a pale af person a lot of asian brands cushions are better shade matches than i find in western beauty because we like to make things for more warm tones/have an orange tint
that being said, it is a bit disheartening that they aren't even making tones for the people they even have in asia because they are so obsessed with whitewashing and most koreans aren't even using their shade but most cushions i found to be my holy grails when it comes to foundations ngl and you're right that a lot of people are only going w/ western beauty standards when it comes to things
this is also why i prefer east asian contours because they tend to be actually more gray in tone (like a contour should be) versus the western default of 'orange'
different things work for different people, shocker lol
we all like different finishes, we all have different skin types, skin tones etc. even my own brother is total opposite to me
James, your videos are consistently amazing, and I'm grateful for the opportunity to be included. Your support for science communicators is commendable ❤. The increasing use of authority by medical experts on social media is becoming problematic. My advice to everyone is to remain critical and always ask, "What is your actual expertise in this field?" When you encounter an expert discussing topics beyond their area of expertise.
Thank you for your service. There is so much misinformation on SM,i appriciate people with real expertise weighing in.
@@mheuman 🤗🤗 always a pleasure
That person took the phrase"butter face" to a whole new level 😅
I searched for your comment lol
@@southernelle 😂 😂
Oh no, the butter thing made me feel sick 😮 I also don't believe she does this! I was waiting for her to say it was a prank
The way you and Robert have synchronized video topics today is fabulous - twinsiiies 👯♀️
I just learned that interpretating is an actual word! It's British English. This is why the internet is beautiful and can bring people closer. I would have thought someone was mispronouncing it, and I would have looked so uneducated. Thank you, James! 💜💜💜
Butter girl is definitely taking the piss
To get an MD the number of chemistry classes he would have had to take, I just don’t understand how he can be that wrong. You learn this in general chemisty!!!
I do wonder how much chemistry is part of a derms education 🧐
Depends where he is, some places you can do an MD straight out of high school without prior science study.
Ok just saw he went to Harvard he definitely should have done some Chemistry lol
This is why I watch James he tells the truth and debunks the ridiculousness and gives reference to the facts he gives 💜🖤💜🖤💜🖤
I'm a licensed pharmacist and have been trained how to compound medicine for patients. The stuff derms want us to throw together is WILD. Most of them can't be taught
That experiment Ava Perkins did with the pH and dilution was so interesting! Never have I been more convinced that what I know is ✨️limited✨️ 😂 Edit: and Lab Muffin about buffer systems! Very cool!
Love Michelle and her content. I like to imagine the creators suddenly hearing boss music whenever she posts a video debunking their misinformation.
The person using the butter actually made me feel ill when she was rubbing it on her face and eating it. And like you say, it’s quite difficult to wash off when it gets on your skin. It feels gross.
Voices of reason. Exactly. And there are too few of them. Thank you for being one of them. We appreciate you and thank you for your integrity.
Thank you James for always coming in clutch just when we need you the most! Much love from North Carolina 💜🖤💜
Who in the UK can afford a tub of butter that big?! She's melting money hunny
The switch between the two stories is so funny to me & both are ridiculous! Once the butter story started & I saw her put the butter on her face, I got the shivers because ugh it looks gross
sorry.. butter as primer? 😭
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It must smell lovely 🤢😂
The break outs😰 I know that in some cultures use ghee as a moisturizer but butter as a primer…
@@memonos ghee would be pretty similar to coconut oil, right? i can get behind that one
but i can’t see butter work even remotely as a primer.. i’m assuming she’s not being serious but you just never know 😭
Probably the same type of person who uses baby wipes to clean their face 😱
Hi! I am a product safety toxicologist for one of the largest consumer goods companies in the world. I just wanted to say thank you from the bottom of my heart to you and Robert both, for always providing TRUSTWORTHY, quality content... and always making a point to defer to experts where applicable. This is why the experts love your content and follow you too!
It's honestly kind of scary to me that I dermatologist doesn't know how skin care works...
like I understand that they are not a chemist but if you don't have a fundamental understanding of how products affect the skin and work how can you possibly call yourself a Doctor who specializes in skin?
He should've just admitted that he was wrong.. that would've been less embarrassing.
When Michelle chimes in, you really stepped in it! 😂😂😂😂
I'm SO HAPPY you're here to debunk misinformation on TikTok regarding skincare, James. Especially since you enforce your point using other very talented and knowledgeable content creators 🙏🙏 let's support and help educate and spread awareness in a positive and good way
I've seen some of his crap on TH-cam, and I just dismissed it. I love that you're calling this schmuck out, not discrediting his doctor of skin, but how dare he come for a chemist like okay!! Sit down 'Dr.'
I remember my father laughing at Dr Oz walking out in his scrubs, and we all see the crap he tries to push. Stay your profession in the office and off social media. Cheers ❤
There is a history of using lard or tallow as a base for (cheap) face powder, usually by the poorer classes who couldn't afford the cold creams or pomatums of the day. Lard or tallow, not butter, and it seems to be something people used out of necessity or desperation when they couldn't afford anything else. Haven't tried it myself, may do at some stage just to see what it's like, but yeah definitely not the same as slathering on butter as a primer. Just use a proper cold cream if you're going to do that, it basically does the same thing and it's a heck of a lot safer for your skin.
Tallow can make a good moisturiser so I could see that as an option but butter seems like a greesy mess
@@shelby6 I have a cold cream/moisturiser that was recreated from the Regency era that uses lard as one of its ingredients, and I find it so soothing and nourishing to use as a night cream or just an additional winter moisturiser. Haven't tried Tallow, but have heard some good anecdotal reports. Butter on the other hand, yeah hello grease city!
I think tallow balms have been making a comeback in popularity in recent years! Makes sense to use tallow or lard, it’s just a pure fat like plant oils. But I’m pretty sure butter goes rancid real quick, especially if warm… like on your skin 😭
It was used by actors to remove make up. Cut half a block of lard in hal put in a bowl over a pan of water, when melted remove and beat with a fork to whip it up. Leave overnight in the bowl. Next day drain any remaining liquid if any. Add a few drops of rose geranium oil(the original way) or rose,or lavender oil. Beat to. In the oil. Pot and leave to set, if some oil surfaces beat in the pot and leav Use to remove make up. Dont use a lot. Remove make up again with it. Wash face or use rosewater as a toner.
@claireeyles7560 I have written a regency or Georgian recipe for an actors make up remover. It uses half a block of lard, approx 4oz. It would have to be used quickly in warm weather due to it being in unstable natural fat. I've tried it, it is good. I keep mine in the fridge. I use it as eye make up remover for waterproof mascara.
that glycolic acid bit was exhausting! Geez. I work in a lab and was listening to it while doing a lab project and just kept yelling in my head "A BUFFER A BUFFER!!" Then finally lab muffin talks about buffers. It's a basic lesson many even non-science lab techs learn (like me) like when I was trying to make something and was so frustrated the ph was all over the place then realized I forgot to add in the buffer. Oooohhh! Yeah that makes sense and teaches you quickly why a buffer is so important
I appreciate your business leader perspective on integrity and misinformation. Most people just point out how unethical it is, but I like the way you shared how it's just bad for a social media business to be so untrustworthy. Great thoughts!
Omg yes. I was about to about to make a video about why I am soooooo tired of influencers saying "BRUTALLY HONEST REVIEW"- like, there is a way to be direct when you are speaking, but the unnecessary harshness (that is often unfounded on anything specific or unique to their singular experience or preferences) like.... 😑 the product probably is for someone, even if its not you- and its more accurate (and impressive) to be able to speak about who else it may be for
Ive had really bad eczema since I was born. Im STILL angry that my mom slathered me in Crisco in the summer thinking it would help. Idk who told her that was a good idea but it was genuine suffering, like being fried alive honestly. I have no idea why anyone would use butter on their skin for fun....it also grossed me out to see her keep eating the face butter lol at least have a separate tub 😅
James has me so conflicted I want to trust his opinion soooo bad, but he is an internet person and you can't trust internet people, but his vibe is so trustworthy...AHHHH
I know chemistry is "not his area of expertise," but in the US, you generally need to have studied both chemistry and biology before going into any medical studies, including dermatology. And as a consumer, I would expect that any doctor I go to see would have at least a basic understanding of any other science that is relevant to their field. Science does not exist in isolation, and different fields overlap quite a bit. Chemistry is very important to how our bodies work, including our skin. And it's not as if the information he was getting wrong was particularly difficult or obscure. As Lab Muffin pointed out, this is high school-level stuff.
I am a doctor.. but damn some doctors do think that they know everything and have answers to all problems.. WHICH IS NOT TRUE AT ALL!!
The two most valuable things grad school taught me was 1) how much I don’t know and 2) there are so many “smart” people that are sooo unintelligent. Seriously guys, “doctor” in front of someone’s name is NOT the end all be all. It’s hardly even the beginning. In fact, we should be challenging them the most. Do your own research! Evidence based and peer reviewed studies are available for free! (And PS if you find an article that isn’t free, reach out to the author, they are usually more than happy to share it with you!)
I mean....you can't go from one frame saying you love butter for that dewy, glowy look and then cut to a face full of matte make-up. These are different goals. Licking the extra butter off a finger kind of clinched it as a troll tactic, though. (Also, even with the benefit of the doubt, this is something you do when you're young. The idea of slathering butter on my face just sounds unpleasant.)
The way the butter lady kept eating it 🤮 made my stomach turn. And thank you for continuing the fight against misinformation!
Thank you! Misinformation can be everything from annoying to dangerous. Before believing anyone, I check their ‘references’. Is that person actually who they present themselves to be? Reputation amongst peers? Does what they say make scientific sense? What is their motivation? (Clout, self promotion of products, money, etc). Just because it’s online doesn’t mean it’s true. 😂
It's genuinely terrifying that a medical professional when given new info refuses to update his understanding.
Damn, sh*t got real in this video 🙌🏽👏🏽 thanks for posting these! The misinformation out there is wild.
Thank you for sharing this and offering your opinion as well! I 100% agree with your stance. Those dollar signs change so many individuals. I have been following your channel for a long time now, James, I am so grateful how consistent and humble you remain no matter how much more attention your platform gains 💚💜🧡
5:02 the problem I ha e seen on tiktok mostly is that so many ppl will see someone claim something, doesn't matter if it's right or wrong. They will then make a video stating the same thing with no research on it, then more ppl will parrot it. Misinformation is unfortunately then spread so fast that ppl then belive the wrong thing so firmly that they refuse to listen to reason.
I've had to deal with a few ppl like that in the comments of different subject videos
I've been using the TirTir cushion that was recommended to me by another TH-cam channel you may be familiar with. I've also been embracing more of a "French girl" makeup look lately. I like it.
I don't feel that the shade is quite pale or cool enough for me, but I'm used to that TBH. I've had to adjust how I touch my face. It isn't Estee Lauder Double Wear. It blends very well if you understand how to work with it. I think it looks great on skin that may find traditional foundation too drying - maybe it's settling into their fine lines. This looks youthful and glowy.
The butter?!?!?! LMAOOOO I can’t so unserious
Thank you James. So many folks do not realise that a lot of Koreans and half-Koreans cannot use Korean foundations. I'm half Korean, and take after my Mother who has a darker Olive skintone, though I'm not as dark as she is, and the darkest Korean cushion foundations are typically about two to four shades too light for me, and about four to six shades too light for my Mother, oh, and rarely take Olive skintones into consideration. (Shades as in how much lighter than our skintone, not in that they have that much of a shade range)
I usually have to add colour corrector and add a serum foundation that's a couple shades darker to try to make a close enough shade for me, because I do like a very light dewy foundation if I can find it, otherwise, they're all powders, and that just kills the dewy skin.
I seriously hope K-Beauty will become more inclusive, as I'd love to be able to buy Korean base Makeup.
I started watching Dr Idriss online and her recommendations actually not kidding cleared up my hormonal acne and breakouts. I first started with baby bum rash cream with zinc oxide for 2 weeks every night. Healed right up! Than I started using her recommended Kate Summerville sulphur face was. Big difference too, then I started using the vanicream c serum, my scars look so much better! And finally I started using benzoyl peroxide products by PanOxyl. I use the cleanser first, then the Kate Summerville one (so double cleansing) the toner and the spf moisturizer. And she also recommended for any bumps that are just starting to use the PanOxyl acne patches or/& the Neutrogena Stubborn Acne Drying Lotion 29 mL. That stuff works too. I’m so glad to have found her! Luv ur content James always 🩷
I love when a content creator admits they don't know something. It makes me trust what they are telling me and lets me know they are honest and trustworthy!
I trust you 100%!! Many blessings!!!💖💖💖
The “mmm I sawr it inna study, you’re just trying to get views” had me dying 😂😂😂
One of the most important things as a medical professional is to know your own limitations. Depending on your specialty it’s very possible to become an MD with only limited understanding of chemistry. (I’m saying this as an MD of internal medicine, who considers herself far from a chemistry expert herself compared). To me, the lack of self-reflection and insight from this doctor is even more damning than the actual misinformation.