I’m sorry... but i dam near pissed myself laughing when Papp Yam actually uttered “modern water cooled engine” and “heritage motorcycle” in the same statement. Neo-Retro is not heritage.
You guys are morons. A 883 sportster is a good beginner bike , AND a good end of life bike for us who will never ride a 3 wheeled BIG WHEEL. We downgrade to a sporty to stay on 2 wheels, because of bad knees, bad hips, lighter weight. I'm trading my Road Glide for a Sporty due to age and physical restrictions. So quit dissing a very good bike that has its place for many many people.
But I thought the sportster was for tinkerers... If you're gonna have to basically replace the whole bike to make it drivable, not having to lube a chain a few times is barely a selling feature.
It’s tough because Harley is so iconic it pulls in perceived value through shear force of charisma. But when I ride mine I never feel like I’m missing anything.
@@seanbutler2291 This is just a demonstration that motorcycling is more subjective than many admit. And also ripping by people has more to do with riding experience than the motorcycle's capabilities than most of us are willing to admit. There's exactly one reason to buy any motorcycle: Because when you tried riding it, it moved something inside of you
As a sportster owner (which was also my first motorcycle), I was interested in the iron 883 for the reliability, huge aftermarket and service support network. I think I did partially buy into the brand mindset, after being pressure by my father with his boomer bagger, but I have been very happy with it. I have a bunch of biltwell parts and bassani exhaust. Never had any issues with it, and didn't care much for performance, just wanted to cruise around town. It was a great learning bike, and I plan to keep it for quite awhile. I can respect the scout bobber and would consider moving up to something that can better keep up on the highway, when I need to take longer trips.
I’ve got a 883 Sportster from 2003 I inherited that is my go to for commuting. It handles fine and for around town can’t be beat. I’ve got a Milwaukee 8 for touring and all day treks. When it comes to suspension other marks also get hammered. Many people used to replace their BMW shocks but now days you can’t with all the computers.
Where does this notion that an 883 can't keep up on the highway come from, these things literally just purr at 80mph, and there are videos to prove it. Also, the long trip fantasy is fubar. Look at how many big Harleys just wind up sitting in garages after the owner bought it because they bought into the 'big trip' fantasy, and got tired of lugging the thing around town because the big trip never manifested.
Since halrey cancelled it and did the livewire now their support has collapsed. Thet close dealers in areas so now ive got less reason to buy whatever theyre selling now. Sadly indian is even smaller.
The Harley Davidson sportster is a rare machine! Nothing else like it! Yamm acts like it’s a shock that the 883 is not built for performance minded riders? It’s a 30 yr old motorcycle! That’s it’s appeal! If you don’t want that, then buy something else? I’m a brand new rider, and the fact that I can get into a Harley Davidson that is rideable for noobs and looks freaking amazing! Is awesome! It’s KILLER! Yeah I said it. I freaking love my sporty 883! This garbage about it being almost unrideable because of the shocks and controls and feel and lean angle, is complete and total BULLSHIT. It’s extremely, extremely, rideable! Mine is bone freaking stock and it rides great. It doesn’t tear up the streets or pop wheelies or feel like a sport bike no, of course not. But unrideable? Whatever? Not even close! I ride mine all over, everyday, everywhere, and I have a freaking blast doing it!
I’m a brand new rider too. And I agree w you on the sportster stock being rideable. I have little riding experience and I’ve been loving every second of it. I’m going to guess that it’s also our limited riding experience and having little else to compare it to that contributes a bit to that. Either way I don’t care haha I love my bike. Faults and all
The most famous t-shirt company, that also makes motorcycles! Oh my God I literally fell out of my chair cuz it's so right on I could not stop laughing.
HD is the best selling apparel and motorcycle company. Yamaha is the best selling electric piano and motorcycle company. Dove is the best chocolate and shampoo/conditioner company.
I ride a sportster and I absolutely LOVE this thing. Their review has a lot right and wrong with the sportster. I will say this out of group of riders harley rides are my favorite to be around.
@@deadshot4245 im barley getting into bikes. might be getting one soon. I'm thinking the 883 because im not a speed demon and don't have a suicide wish. it looks cool and comfortable. and just want it for commuting for work/gas. I feel like if i keep it like that and maintain it should last me a while. saw one for around 3k close to 6000 miles an 01 model. looks like in good condition. used. should i get it.?
@@YoungDirtyMexicanOfficially carb vs fuel injection is your big question. I'm selling a 2010 883 right now with 14300 ish on it full led all around with load equalizer engine guard as well as swing arm bag. All new tires about a month or 2 old all service up to date. Runs like a champ. Previous owner dropped it at some point bent the clutch lever but everything is rock solid zero issues in the years I've owned it other than neutral lamp not working but if you need or trust a light instead of being always weary of it being actually in neutral you're setting yourself up for a bad day eventually if circumstances align. Regardless of that one thing it's perfect. I'd personally recommend 07 forwards for fuel injection sometimes carbs are a pain in the ass. Hence why I got a 2010. Trying to move up to a ninja 1000sx now once I get this one sold
Had one for 35 years. Had other bikes as well, but the sporty has stuck around. Bought it because I thought it would be easy to work on after havrng s bevel drive Ducati. I was right. Never had to do anything to it. Nothing. In stock 883 form, if serviced properly....no worries.
The Sporty is like a Jeep Wrangler: it's grossly overpriced for what you get, but it does its job. And if you want it to do its job well, it's up to you as the owner to make it your own
The difference is Jeep has actually *improved the power train and suspension* of the wrangler over the past 30 years, while keeping (most of) the look. The 883 is the same bike 30 years ago but pricier.
Thank you guys, this video made me love the bike more. This Harley Davidson iron 883 is a dream ride for me and probably would stay as it is as the price is beyond me. Nonetheless I wouldn't want any other bike than iron 883. Kudos to both of you.....Go Harley Davidson!
Here’s the thing with the sportster. It’s an amazing bike! Really! It’s a legitimate beginner bike that can also be something you keep your entire riding life. It’s iconic and nostalgic and all that. It’s one of the freaking coolest looking bikes on the road regardless of make or model. It’s a design that has been selling non stop since 1957! Non stop! The only reason it’s going away is emissions regulations. It can be retuned, retrofitted, revived, revised, and re-whatever into almost anything your mind can dream up! If you need more power from it, well you have multiple, multiple, options! Just how much power do you need it to make, because you can probably get it there in the aftermarket? There are kits to take it beyond 120+hp! Or maybe you just want to wake it up a little? Put a breather an exhaust and retune and enjoy. Or stick one of multiple different cams available for it in there and again, enjoy! Change the bars, change the seat, change the suspension, the wheels, the tank, the forks, whatever you want! To say the sportster is not a good motorcycle and that people who buy and ride them are wasting their money is ridiculous. Just shows a complete lack of imagination and foresight. Not everyone wants a stock machine that is exactly like every other bike that shares its name.
This bike is like a souvenir that you're meant to preserve and admire - an essential part of American history. The experience transports you to a different time. Performance is secondary.
Spending $10k on a Sportster then spending another $5k to make it 'rideable' means I could spend $12k on a good bike, another grand or 2 on accessories and still have money left over...hmmm
I’m financing mine. It’s a 2022. White sand pearl. I love it. If you get an exhaust, air filter and that tune, you’re set with a bad ass Harley. You don’t go out and buy a sportster to go fast. You wanna look bad ass. It definitely has that factor
Although the 1200 is faster and more powerful than the 883, it also vibrates more. I like to ride in the mountain twisties and I prefer the 883's shorter gears and smoother ride. The fact that it's a 2005 and has given me ZERO problems doesn't hurt, either.
I'm planning to jump into riding, because I always loved to look of the classic bikes and cafe racer type things. I'm a complete noob when it comes to bikes, but I love tinkering and repairing, I have been rebuilding one of my cars in the last 15 years, so I have learned a lot through the years. Let's say I'm not afraid of any task now. I've learnt a lot, remade complete wiring harness, rebuilt the 6 cylinder engine etc. I never was a fan of speeding through corners, cruising is what suits me best. So as a first bike the Sportster just ticks all the boxes and even more so after watching your review. Thanks!
So you have a "hard time making the case for the Sportster" when it comes to (ahem) *heritage* because you could buy another motorcycle that *looks* like an old school bike when it is actually a modern one? Gimme a break, Yammie. Let's make a quick comparison: would you say a classic Mustang has less *heritage* than a Honda because it is more expensive and slower than the more modern conventional car? Harleys are just like that: a vehicle that pays tribute to old, classic ways of riding. It's just silly to make that kind of comparison.
@Zealadinn putting value on a "REAL" classic vehicle is *totally* subjective. The car by itself is nowhere as good as a modern one, all of its value comes from subjective, historical factors that may or may not be deemed nice by people. If Ford started manufacturing the classic Mustang again, I'm sure there would be people who would buy it, as there are people who already buy replicas. Would it be a "REAL" classic vehicle? It doesn't really matter: people would buy it because of the *experience* of riding a classic, dated car -- which it *would* provide you. Everything considered, Harleys give you a similar taste of the "glory" of the old days. The ticket for thatt is indeed expensive, but there are still people who find it worthy. To sum it up: riding a Harley provides feelings that having a razor-sharp modern quick bike just can't. That's what Yammie is failing to undertand IMO.
@@thefinaledge3554 if they brought back all the classic cars as brand new. I don't think they would be as wanted. Classic insurance free taxes etc would be scrapped a whole parts system would have to be started up. As they were built in a different way back then (with people not robots) They took longer to build. They would probably cost 4 times as much and not meet Euro 6/7 etc. Just wouldn't work and safety would be a huge issue.
@@chrishart8548 You're right for sure, it was just a hypothetical scenario. But there would be some (not all that many, but definitely some) people who would buy them. That's exactly what happens with Harley-Davidson.
Yep, my Sportster is one that will be mine until someone smashes it, or I can't ride any more. I researched, I determined the exact variant that was right for me, then I sat on my cash until one of them came up for sale. To top it off, the variant I chose has 32° lean angle.
I’m 22 and couldn’t have financed any bike. R1 or whatever 18k-20k bike but when I look back at my bike I would most definitely like to see a 2020 low rider s and was no second guessing that
I guess if you’re not into the cruiser lifestyle you just can’t understand the sportster. I know that I don’t really care about performance numbers. I’m totally open to other styles of motorcycling but I just enjoy this one
I bought a Harley Sportster 1200 as my first bike a couple of years ago. It probably was not the most sensible choice and today, I can definitely say that I would have needed to shop around a bit more. But if I were buying my first bike today? You bet it'd be a Sportster.
I love my Iron 883 and wouldn’t trade her for the world. It’s a fun bike around town. Everywhere I go people stop to ask me about her. As you very mentioned the aftermarket parts world is endless. She is a canvas you can make your own.
I won’t lie…I bought the 2022 883 because I like the way it looks. 🤷🏻♂️. And you are right…I did a lot of mods right off the bat. The price does suck, but as you said…it’s just a toy.
I have a 2009 Sportster 883 Iron. I absolutely love it. It’s not near perfect, but it sounds amazing, looks awesome, and is loads of fun. It’s all subjective (as you have said). Also as you said, it’s not about the performance- it’s all about the feels.
There are so many cliches and not entirely relevant things in this video it’s hard to know where to start. They are complicating the hell out of buying a bike. I may be wrong but you own a bike because of how it makes you feel. Not only when you ride it but just looking at it. It doesn’t matter what you do to your bike as long as it makes you happy doing it. I have 2 old Harleys, both 79’s. I owned my first one in 79 and it was a different time. A Harley didn’t make you cool and they weren’t a luxury item. Leathers didn’t make you a badass, they kept your badass intact in case you came off your bike. T shirts didn’t cost $35 and an accessory was something you bolted on your bike. The whole point of owning a Harley is because you liked riding it, same as any other bike. So you can watch all these videos and let someone tell you what’s right/wrong with a Harley or, you can go and ride one. If you buy a bike for any reason other than you really like riding it you probably bought the wrong bike. So go find a bike you like and get some saddle time, you’ll enjoy it. I like these 2 guys, they’re good for the sport and maybe they’ll motivate some new people to become bike owners. Pay attention out there and get home safe.
I went to buy a Sportster 3 times in my life. Each time I took a test drive. I turned back to the dealer after about 100 feet. How is it possible that the Sportster, with it's beautiful looks, can't be 100 lbs lighter, have 100 horsepower, have no vibration? After 70 years?
That, my friend, is why I hate Harley; they're too lazy, dumb, arrogant, pick one to make better bikes. They're already the best in the world, don't ya know.
Harley has had a 90 plus HP 500 lb Sportster in the catalog but it didn’t move. Blame their marketing or customers the XR was dropped due to lack luster sales.
The sporty is the kind of bike you can do anything you want and customize anyway you want for every riders style of riding. Put a hammer big bore kit and you will be doing mid 11s all night long at the track. I’ve had my share of rides from sport bikes to street bikes and even dirt bikes and I will always go back to a sporty. I personally still have an R1, a VRod, a Kawi KX250F and a sporty 883 that I converted to a 1275cc
Sportsters are great, they just not sport enough for some and considered the little bike to guys with Streetglides but get one in your garage next to your Streetglide or Electraglide and you'll love it.
I've had my 1200 sportster for almost 2 years now. It went from bone stock to fully built and I couldn't be happier. It rides well on the road and will still rip a 10 second 1/4 mile. I love the looks, the sound, and the way it makes me feel. Its the moders dream. Theres so much aftermarket support its unreal. And its fun to hurt the crotch rocket boys feelings at the drag strip too😉
@@chrishart8548 most modern liter bikes run high 9s and mid 10s. I race with them just about every weekend. Its all gearing🤷 my bike tops out right after the 1000 ft mark at 139. I'm also pushing WELL over 120 wheel. And my bike is 490 wet.
Throwing sparks on turns, the sound of the engine through worn out mufflers, and the vibes are what it is all about. I've had my Evo 883 since 1986, model year 1987. I've upgraded fuel tanks twice, put a full fairing on the front, crash bars, highway bars, p-pad, and sissy bar. I added saddle bags, and throw saddle bags over them. I also added a handlebar attached tool bag. It still runs great, plenty of power, and I can go 200 miles now on a fill. It doesn't bang out until 96 mph, and I've ridden it across the US twice in all weathers. The seat isn't ripped, but it has gotten stiff, and needs replaced. The fuel gage is giving the bike a shake at a stop light. If you can hear it sloshing around, your good.
I don’t mind the maintenance of a chain, as I’ve done field expedient repairs on a chain. When the belt is broken, it’s broken. Belts have their places, but so do chains. Also, if you’re stunting on a cruiser, you need a chain for the abuse.
@@lowcountryrob170 in thirteen years of riding, and taking residence in 3 states, I've known of one rider (TH-camrs not withstanding) to have had a belt failure. He had an early 100ci Victory named "Purple Eagle" and his second belt failure happened during a burnout at (I don't know the mileage precisely) over 130k. But yea, stunting on a belt drive is hard on belts, but it also accelerates wear on a chain and sprockets. When it happens, its a tow truck, and I won't dispute that.
The Iron 883 was my 1st bike, it was a great first bike & got me into riding. I rode it for 3 years before stepping up to a BMW S1000R with no problems at all.
I get that it's a great bike to mod because there's so much to fix. But what's wrong with starting out with a bike that's actually good and individualising that?
i personally dont like how sport bikes feel ergonomically, and i only ever go maybe 5 mph over the speed limit. some of the naked bikes sit a little better, but you still have to throw your leg over the tall back end of the bike. i originally looked at a z400 and it was just a pain in the butt to get on for me. i saved a couple grand and bought a well maintained 2008 883 and was so happy with how much torque it had and how comfortable it was to ride. now this was my second ever bike (had a dirt bike), but still considered it my starter bike. i may consider something like a soft tail or dyna later on.
I bought my motorcycle with mods in mind. Would much rather have something that is 2k less off the retail floor to make unique then get stuck with a ride that has little options. Mind you, I did NOT get a HD haha
The fact is that if I want a Harley to cruise around on, I'm not going to look at a Suckakaki 300 because it's cheaper, lighter, and faster. I'm buying a bike that fits my needs, in this case, a 2015 Sportster 1200 Super Low with bags and a windshield. After 48 years of riding, I've learned to buy what I want and need and not to be pressured into buying something because it's cheaper or faster. You'll regret it. Ride what you want and be happy. Ride safe my friends.
Love how you guys continuously let me know when your opinions are objectively or subjectively reasoned. Can you do the same thing when you are being sarcastic or non sarcastic? I often do that to help people understand me.
same here. Im not a speed demon or have a death wish. I want something to commute to work and look cool doing so with a nice budget. they look comfortable too.
im thinkin about buying the iron 883 from my ex father in law. hes getting older and i'd like to have a chill cruiser for work or city commutes. my main bike is a 2023 BMW S1000R which i tend to ride to fast on commutes if you know what i mean. and the harley would be perfect for "transportation".
I own a 2015 xl883l or Superlow, I like the look of the bike.. it kind of low to the ground and forward controls, makes the bike comfortable. Sure I wish it had more power and wish the oil cap wasn't under my butt. Other then I do like it. Sure there are plenty of thinks Harley can improve upon, I won't argue with that. But in some ways, glad Harley's doesn't have too many electronics so you could probably work on them without taking it to a shop. Unlike mordern days cars, most look the same and many things you can't do yourself without taking it to a shop.
Out of all the sportsters this on is g the e best. I was choosing between 1200 and Triumph Bonneville Speedmaster and ended up with the latter on. Sportster looks great.
I'm 65 just retired ,worked physically hard most my life , still healthy but my bones stoving up ,I feel it coming ,old age , a relic , a has been , money in my pocket now , this bike sounds like me me , now to decide new or used , something bout it something to pass on ,very good video the good cop bad cop scenario, the pros and cons were conveyed in an intelligent manner , good video
So if harley riders are just like every other rider why do they never wave? Do they require both hands on the bars at all times? Or are they just to cool to wave?
I wave at everyone from my sportster..scooters...dude on a lawnmower...little kids on bikes. Sportster bois, dyna bros and bagger boomers are a few subcategories of the harley cult and all behave differently.
I owned and rode a Buell XB12 for 8 years and I loved it. It was quirky, hot, and vibrated something fierce. It was hipster AF. I have always been a sport bike rider favoring the modern street fighter style and configuration. The Buell really fit my taste. When I was in the market they were cheap too. I daily ride to work and lately I have been desiring a more cruiser riding position. I found a 2011 sportster superlow 883 for $4000 with low miles. I struggled to pass it up. I was sure that I would regret the power I was missing from the 1200cc buell motor. Call me crazy but this Sportster is a blast. It is everything that people say it is, old dated, simple heavy, and its awesome. Super robust parts, pretty simple by design. Easy to work on well for the most part anyway. I am becoming a Harley guy. Heee HAAAAA.
I agree with everything, but I bought an Iron 1200 6 months ago and I really love it. I've never looked at the best I can get, but what I like, I like the legacy, the idea of riding a harley, the sound remembers me all those movies with bad and good guys riding harleys, and I live just a few miles awey from Ducati's factory :D
The Honda rebel 1100 is going to put harley out of business. Just kidding, Harely is going to put themselves out of business. Unless they get more government help.
I want a rebel 1100 because I think it is a True Japanese cruiser. Not a Japanese copy of a heritage cruiser. I was really thinking about buying a Rebel 500 but feel like the 1100 would fill more than one checkmark on my list. I really wanted a CB1100 for a long time but I ultimately decided it was a old bike since it was only air cooled and I want a modern cruiser.
No, the earliest motorcycles used a leather belt for their final drive, the problem was transmission hadn't been invented in those days, so when you wanted to up a hill you had to stop the bike and slip the belt onto a larger pulley to get the bike up the incline.
Once one gets over the latests gadgets, frills, and promises, a true motorcycle tragic gets the HD Sportster. It's motorcycling in its purest form. Raw, unapologetic, simple, and visceral. what makes one feel alive. Soulful and perfect.
The brakes are just a suggestion? I mean, I used to own an Iron and I know they're bad. But I also own a 1981 XT500. That's basically a thermodynamic paradox. It's front brake generates heat while not providing any stopping power.
As some one who did a test ride on the new 2020 sportster 883 and rides a 2000 sportster 1200 I will tell you it feels so good to buy American and ride a sportster if you can’t afford it but used you will not regret it watch my review on this bike
I'll take the Ducati. Harley is just a brand name, with no performance to back it up. Only thing they are good for is annoying the whole neighborhood with the loud exhaust!
Wonder who actually likes all that excessive noise. I think the south park episode sums up what people think of Harley Davidson bikes with loud exhaust pipes
Yea but when I look back at my back I would rather see my 2020 low rider s. Stage 2.. 125 hp and 131 torque.. then a R1 or whatever sports bikes.. could have easily gotten any top of line sports bike but to me they all look the same and can’t do much with them other then just go fast. And wouldn’t fit in with them cause I’m not built like a twig
@@Iniquityslasher 85mph is the top highway speed in the nation. Most places it is 55 to 70mph on highways. You need enough power to get to speed quickly and for avoidance of other vehicles. 40HP is the bare bones limit for highway speeds. 100HP is excessive.
@@exexpat11 what on earth is excessive hp? You do know you don't have to use all the horsepower. Any combustion engine is best used at half its power. If you need 40hp get 80hp and use half. If you ride at high elivation the power almost halves anyway. And a pillion or steep hills don't help either. I have 85hp. I would not want any less that's for sure. Having the girlfriend on the back really takes the edge off the performance. It's just about ok otherwise.
@@chrishart8548 I was thinking along the lines of a Kawasaki H2 with 197HP. How much of that 197HP are you going to use on the street at just a little over the speed limit? 80? 100? 120? I have boosted my HD Roadster up to 75HP myself. I would like to get it to the mid 80's. Will I use all of it? Probably not. I know I'll never get it to 120HP.
Guys, not sure that you get this bike. It goes faster than any legal speed limit in the world. The weight is an advantage in windy conditions. Belt drive old school??? What the??? Belt drive equals not oil and shit all over the place, no maintenance and a quiet, no noise drive train. Its a relaxing bike to ride, no screaming rpm motor below you. Brakes.... never had an issue them, stops great. Totally customisable. As an owner of multiple bikes, I'm confused by this video. Because this not a bike that screams high hp, you knock it. Lmao.... shakes your eye balls out. Its a motorbike guys, not a f,ing sewing machine. own one, put more than 20k klms on it, then review it, maybe then you opinion will change.
Id rathwr get a 1200... ive always said that. But came across a 883r... Has tc bros controls(wish it had mid control) and screaming eagle bits... for 2500 bucks. Hard to pass that up
Not entirely convinced by this analysis. I bought a 2004 XL with 40,000 miles on it, stock with the exception a pair of slip on silencers, and a K&N filter. It went well enough, but the handling was a bit baggy. I rebuilt the suspension to suit my weight, and set up the steering geometry, threw in a carb' jet kit, and off we went. Grossly over geared, so on went a chain and sprocket kit (21/51 IIRC) to lower the gearing. Goes like a stabbed rat up to 100, and handles predictably, no serious vibration. Starts on the button, no electrical problems, or mechanical. Seems OK for a 17 year old motorcycle.
Absolutely love my 07 883, 150 miles on a tank, extremely reliable, I can throw this hog around corners like nobody's business and the best is the simplicity and traditional look of the Sportster. When people picture a motorcycle they picture a Sportster.
Dealer near me wants 9500$ for a dropped, scratched up in several areas, dented fuel tank, bent handlebar, wont start 2020 883 with 1300 miles... The money people are willing to pay for these is nuts. I do like these but not nearly that much.
HD, drink the koolaid, buy the shirt... or spend less and buy a japanese cruiser that handles better, has more power, requires no mods, is more reliable, and honestly doesn't look any worse. I love that you guys kept comparing this to a 300cc bike, which, is honest; because most of the beginner 300cc bikes probably have more power and handle better. I work with a fella that decided to get a bike a couple of years ago. He was hell bent on getting a HD; the image was more important than the machine to him. To help him out, I went to the local HD dealer with him. While there, I got to listen to the sales folks try to sell him a $25k bike he didn't need. Make fun of the bike he did want, a Street 500, when they told him "we normally don't sell those to men." Proceed to try to up-sell him on everything, and take a bike that should have been about $8k out the door, to north of $13k out the door. At that point I was able to convince him to go across the road to the Honda/Yamaha/Suzuki dealer, and look at a Honda Rebel. There, the dealer treated him well, and he bought a brand new Rebel 500, which was better in every way over the Street 500, for less than the base price of the Street 500. Interestingly, that HD dealership is no more; they were closed down this past fall. That Honda/Yamaha/Suzuki dealer is still there.
God those guys at the dealership sound so lame. Rebels are sick, did you show your buddy the new rebel 1100 yet? I didn't really have that experience at my 2 local harley dealers.
First time seeing you guys, love the "objective vs subjective" style. Add in some really clever one liners for entertainment, you guys are gold!! Not sure if you helped me on my decision to buy or not but certainly armed me with lots of things to consider when I start my test rides..... I will ride a few pre-owned slightly modded bikes before I ride a new one.
Thanks to Manscaped for the support today! Take care of your balls -> www.manscaped.com/Yammie
I’m sorry... but i dam near pissed myself laughing when Papp Yam actually uttered “modern water cooled engine” and “heritage motorcycle” in the same statement.
Neo-Retro is not heritage.
What happened to the ride review of the 1275 kit? Lol
Love the close up of the timing cover you guys put on upside down 11:16
The skinny dude couldn't handle the sportster 😂😅 too much bike for a man in a child's body 😅
You guys are morons. A 883 sportster is a good beginner bike , AND a good end of life bike for us who will never ride a 3 wheeled BIG WHEEL. We downgrade to a sporty to stay on 2 wheels, because of bad knees, bad hips, lighter weight. I'm trading my Road Glide for a Sporty due to age and physical restrictions. So quit dissing a very good bike that has its place for many many people.
That "outdated belt drive" requires zero maintenance and rarely fails...
But I thought the sportster was for tinkerers... If you're gonna have to basically replace the whole bike to make it drivable, not having to lube a chain a few times is barely a selling feature.
It fails as soon as you go higher than a stage 3. I Snapped 2 and converted to a chain.
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That's b.s. my sportster is bone stock and rides fine since 2005. If you want a performance bike you're not looking for a sportster.
@@coolbeandean Same here. My 2005 XL883 has been super-reliable and trouble-free.
@@coolbeandeaniron 1200 here and absolutely love it. Never regretted my purchase for a second.
It’s tough because Harley is so iconic it pulls in perceived value through shear force of charisma. But when I ride mine I never feel like I’m missing anything.
Until a yamaha raider with equal looks and 20xtra hp rips by you like a bat out of hell. With the same harley lope of a single connecting rod.
@@seanbutler2291 Equal looks? LOL. Everyone laughs at the harley knockoffs. Reality hurts
@@mycobrahatesyou and yeah sorry not equal looks..... Raider looks soooooooo much better than any hardley Ableson. Period. And with 20 more horsies
@@seanbutler2291 This is just a demonstration that motorcycling is more subjective than many admit. And also ripping by people has more to do with riding experience than the motorcycle's capabilities than most of us are willing to admit. There's exactly one reason to buy any motorcycle:
Because when you tried riding it, it moved something inside of you
@@mycobrahatesyou raider looks great and warriors too
As a sportster owner (which was also my first motorcycle), I was interested in the iron 883 for the reliability, huge aftermarket and service support network. I think I did partially buy into the brand mindset, after being pressure by my father with his boomer bagger, but I have been very happy with it. I have a bunch of biltwell parts and bassani exhaust. Never had any issues with it, and didn't care much for performance, just wanted to cruise around town. It was a great learning bike, and I plan to keep it for quite awhile. I can respect the scout bobber and would consider moving up to something that can better keep up on the highway, when I need to take longer trips.
I always laugh when people hint at sportsters not being able to keep up on the highway. My iron 883 cruises at 75-80mph just fine
@@beardedforlife3740 90 100 just fine with my gal on back gives it more weight.
I’ve got a 883 Sportster from 2003 I inherited that is my go to for commuting. It handles fine and for around town can’t be beat. I’ve got a Milwaukee 8 for touring and all day treks.
When it comes to suspension other marks also get hammered. Many people used to replace their BMW shocks but now days you can’t with all the computers.
Where does this notion that an 883 can't keep up on the highway come from, these things literally just purr at 80mph, and there are videos to prove it. Also, the long trip fantasy is fubar. Look at how many big Harleys just wind up sitting in garages after the owner bought it because they bought into the 'big trip' fantasy, and got tired of lugging the thing around town because the big trip never manifested.
Since halrey cancelled it and did the livewire now their support has collapsed. Thet close dealers in areas so now ive got less reason to buy whatever theyre selling now. Sadly indian is even smaller.
The Harley Davidson sportster is a rare machine! Nothing else like it! Yamm acts like it’s a shock that the 883 is not built for performance minded riders? It’s a 30 yr old motorcycle! That’s it’s appeal! If you don’t want that, then buy something else? I’m a brand new rider, and the fact that I can get into a Harley Davidson that is rideable for noobs and looks freaking amazing! Is awesome! It’s KILLER! Yeah I said it. I freaking love my sporty 883! This garbage about it being almost unrideable because of the shocks and controls and feel and lean angle, is complete and total BULLSHIT. It’s extremely, extremely, rideable! Mine is bone freaking stock and it rides great. It doesn’t tear up the streets or pop wheelies or feel like a sport bike no, of course not. But unrideable? Whatever? Not even close! I ride mine all over, everyday, everywhere, and I have a freaking blast doing it!
I’m a brand new rider too. And I agree w you on the sportster stock being rideable. I have little riding experience and I’ve been loving every second of it. I’m going to guess that it’s also our limited riding experience and having little else to compare it to that contributes a bit to that. Either way I don’t care haha I love my bike. Faults and all
The most famous t-shirt company, that also makes motorcycles! Oh my God I literally fell out of my chair cuz it's so right on I could not stop laughing.
Thanks! Wish I could take credit for that one lol, it’s a well known joke :)
@@yammienoob that ain't no joke, it's a fact.
HD is the best selling apparel and motorcycle company.
Yamaha is the best selling electric piano and motorcycle company.
Dove is the best chocolate and shampoo/conditioner company.
@@richard1493 now that is pure FFFFFFact!!!
It's like Browning is a t-shirt company that also sells rifles
Where's the 1275 kit review?
That would be Nice. Im sure they wont be impressed doe.
It made such little difference in performance why bother. Just another way for HD to rob as much money from their customer as possible.
I agree; all they showed was some of the installation but no follow-thru with a review of the results. Disappointing to say the least!
Where are the true Dyno Numbers?
@@birdatkinson1 HD doesnt make the 1275 kit. Hammer Performance is one of those "aftermarket industries" they were talking about.
I ride a sportster and I absolutely LOVE this thing. Their review has a lot right and wrong with the sportster. I will say this out of group of riders harley rides are my favorite to be around.
yeah usually dont have to worry about a gixxer or ninja flying off the road at 100 plus
@@deadshot4245 🤣
@@YoungDirtyMexicanOfficially the irony is my next upgrade is a ninja 1000sx
@@deadshot4245 im barley getting into bikes. might be getting one soon. I'm thinking the 883 because im not a speed demon and don't have a suicide wish. it looks cool and comfortable. and just want it for commuting for work/gas. I feel like if i keep it like that and maintain it should last me a while. saw one for around 3k close to 6000 miles an 01 model. looks like in good condition. used. should i get it.?
@@YoungDirtyMexicanOfficially carb vs fuel injection is your big question. I'm selling a 2010 883 right now with 14300 ish on it full led all around with load equalizer engine guard as well as swing arm bag. All new tires about a month or 2 old all service up to date. Runs like a champ. Previous owner dropped it at some point bent the clutch lever but everything is rock solid zero issues in the years I've owned it other than neutral lamp not working but if you need or trust a light instead of being always weary of it being actually in neutral you're setting yourself up for a bad day eventually if circumstances align. Regardless of that one thing it's perfect. I'd personally recommend 07 forwards for fuel injection sometimes carbs are a pain in the ass. Hence why I got a 2010. Trying to move up to a ninja 1000sx now once I get this one sold
Had one for 35 years. Had other bikes as well, but the sporty has stuck around. Bought it because I thought it would be easy to work on after havrng s bevel drive Ducati. I was right. Never had to do anything to it. Nothing. In stock 883 form, if serviced properly....no worries.
Sportster is still cool, but it is an acquired taste like black licorice and kombucha.
I like kombucha
@@caseyjones6316 KOMBUCHAAA
Bros, wut if there was licorice flavor kombucha? Sportsters for everyone!
@@_Jaded_ that would be the dream bro
i drink Kombucha daily, expensive but worth it.
They look and sound so much better than almost anything else including newer Harleys to the point it doesn’t matter that they suck.
💎💎💎. 🤣 great point.
The Sporty is like a Jeep Wrangler: it's grossly overpriced for what you get, but it does its job. And if you want it to do its job well, it's up to you as the owner to make it your own
Except Sportster riders actually go out and ride their bikes, whereas 95% of Wranglers are pavement princesses that will never even see dirt
@@bobbybeyer2127 the correct term is Mall Crawler hahaha!
The difference is Jeep has actually *improved the power train and suspension* of the wrangler over the past 30 years, while keeping (most of) the look. The 883 is the same bike 30 years ago but pricier.
@@weirjf they're gonna ax it in a few years. A refresh now would be a sales failure.
@@sivvinod3187 Sales or not, the bike (like most of the harley line) is an engineering failure and is an embarrassment on 2 wheels. Pure stagnation.
Thank you guys, this video made me love the bike more. This Harley Davidson iron 883 is a dream ride for me and probably would stay as it is as the price is beyond me. Nonetheless I wouldn't want any other bike than iron 883. Kudos to both of you.....Go Harley Davidson!
I ride a loaded BMW S1000XR. At 71, I would buy a used 883 in a heartbeat, for around town, when I am done with long trips on a bike.
Here’s the thing with the sportster. It’s an amazing bike! Really! It’s a legitimate beginner bike that can also be something you keep your entire riding life. It’s iconic and nostalgic and all that. It’s one of the freaking coolest looking bikes on the road regardless of make or model. It’s a design that has been selling non stop since 1957! Non stop! The only reason it’s going away is emissions regulations. It can be retuned, retrofitted, revived, revised, and re-whatever into almost anything your mind can dream up! If you need more power from it, well you have multiple, multiple, options! Just how much power do you need it to make, because you can probably get it there in the aftermarket? There are kits to take it beyond 120+hp! Or maybe you just want to wake it up a little? Put a breather an exhaust and retune and enjoy. Or stick one of multiple different cams available for it in there and again, enjoy! Change the bars, change the seat, change the suspension, the wheels, the tank, the forks, whatever you want! To say the sportster is not a good motorcycle and that people who buy and ride them are wasting their money is ridiculous. Just shows a complete lack of imagination and foresight. Not everyone wants a stock machine that is exactly like every other bike that shares its name.
This bike is like a souvenir that you're meant to preserve and admire - an essential part of American history. The experience transports you to a different time. Performance is secondary.
Spending $10k on a Sportster then spending another $5k to make it 'rideable' means I could spend $12k on a good bike, another grand or 2 on accessories and still have money left over...hmmm
That's why you buy a used one for nothing.
You can buy a 2020 gsxr 600 for $12k brand new
Worst part of having a Sportster if that you spend 6k on it, and it still a fucking Sportster! But I fucking love it
I’m financing mine. It’s a 2022. White sand pearl. I love it. If you get an exhaust, air filter and that tune, you’re set with a bad ass Harley. You don’t go out and buy a sportster to go fast. You wanna look bad ass. It definitely has that factor
I never liked motorcycles until I was passing by a Harley store and saw this iron 883, I bought it that day, It looks super nice :)
Although the 1200 is faster and more powerful than the 883, it also vibrates more. I like to ride in the mountain twisties and I prefer the 883's shorter gears and smoother ride. The fact that it's a 2005 and has given me ZERO problems doesn't hurt, either.
my condolences.
Why do I feel like spite and shade tree surgeon would be best friends
Spite's too clean cut, lol.
I only have a freakin moped... why am i here? Cus of my ma boi Yammie.
It all starts somewhere.
I'm planning to jump into riding, because I always loved to look of the classic bikes and cafe racer type things. I'm a complete noob when it comes to bikes, but I love tinkering and repairing, I have been rebuilding one of my cars in the last 15 years, so I have learned a lot through the years. Let's say I'm not afraid of any task now. I've learnt a lot, remade complete wiring harness, rebuilt the 6 cylinder engine etc.
I never was a fan of speeding through corners, cruising is what suits me best. So as a first bike the Sportster just ticks all the boxes and even more so after watching your review. Thanks!
So you have a "hard time making the case for the Sportster" when it comes to (ahem) *heritage* because you could buy another motorcycle that *looks* like an old school bike when it is actually a modern one? Gimme a break, Yammie. Let's make a quick comparison: would you say a classic Mustang has less *heritage* than a Honda because it is more expensive and slower than the more modern conventional car? Harleys are just like that: a vehicle that pays tribute to old, classic ways of riding. It's just silly to make that kind of comparison.
@Zealadinn putting value on a "REAL" classic vehicle is *totally* subjective. The car by itself is nowhere as good as a modern one, all of its value comes from subjective, historical factors that may or may not be deemed nice by people. If Ford started manufacturing the classic Mustang again, I'm sure there would be people who would buy it, as there are people who already buy replicas. Would it be a "REAL" classic vehicle? It doesn't really matter: people would buy it because of the *experience* of riding a classic, dated car -- which it *would* provide you. Everything considered, Harleys give you a similar taste of the "glory" of the old days. The ticket for thatt is indeed expensive, but there are still people who find it worthy. To sum it up: riding a Harley provides feelings that having a razor-sharp modern quick bike just can't. That's what Yammie is failing to undertand IMO.
@@thefinaledge3554 if they brought back all the classic cars as brand new. I don't think they would be as wanted. Classic insurance free taxes etc would be scrapped a whole parts system would have to be started up. As they were built in a different way back then (with people not robots) They took longer to build. They would probably cost 4 times as much and not meet Euro 6/7 etc. Just wouldn't work and safety would be a huge issue.
@@chrishart8548 You're right for sure, it was just a hypothetical scenario. But there would be some (not all that many, but definitely some) people who would buy them. That's exactly what happens with Harley-Davidson.
Yep, my Sportster is one that will be mine until someone smashes it, or I can't ride any more. I researched, I determined the exact variant that was right for me, then I sat on my cash until one of them came up for sale. To top it off, the variant I chose has 32° lean angle.
@Addicus Taylor '08 Roadster.
Harley riders are the most brand loyal motorcyclists in the world. Because they would have to be, wouldn't they.
If you’re biased yea. I love my iron 1200, but my next bike is going to be a dual sport. Glad you could rope all Harley owners into one circle.
I’m 22 and couldn’t have financed any bike. R1 or whatever 18k-20k bike but when I look back at my bike I would most definitely like to see a 2020 low rider s and was no second guessing that
I see what ya did there 😀
@@TipsyCrowShow Pan America is coming and I'm excited about it XD
That's interesting considering I ride a harley and I'm not what you'd call a loyalist
I absolutely love my Black Denim 883.
I guess if you’re not into the cruiser lifestyle you just can’t understand the sportster.
I know that I don’t really care about performance numbers. I’m totally open to other styles of motorcycling but I just enjoy this one
Then the vmax walks in the riim and says "yeah the "cruiser lifestyle" psh"
@@seanbutler2291 believe it or not, but almost no one actually cares about a vmax
...I have an 883 sportster.....and there not wrong lol.
Their*
@@metalmoto3275 you mean *they're* ?
@@Shutchohole theiryre*
@@metalmoto3275 bravo!
@@metalmoto3275 😆
There's NO bike around that delivers as uniquely raw a riding experience as a HD, especially a HD Sportster.
So Harley Davidson is basically Royal Enfield but costly but you hate Royal Enfield more than Harley 🙄
Nailed it.
I bought a Harley Sportster 1200 as my first bike a couple of years ago. It probably was not the most sensible choice and today, I can definitely say that I would have needed to shop around a bit more. But if I were buying my first bike today? You bet it'd be a Sportster.
I love my Iron 883 and wouldn’t trade her for the world. It’s a fun bike around town. Everywhere I go people stop to ask me about her. As you very mentioned the aftermarket parts world is endless. She is a canvas you can make your own.
I won’t lie…I bought the 2022 883 because I like the way it looks. 🤷🏻♂️. And you are right…I did a lot of mods right off the bat. The price does suck, but as you said…it’s just a toy.
I have a 2009 Sportster 883 Iron. I absolutely love it. It’s not near perfect, but it sounds amazing, looks awesome, and is loads of fun. It’s all subjective (as you have said). Also as you said, it’s not about the performance- it’s all about the feels.
There are so many cliches and not entirely relevant things in this video it’s hard to know where to start. They are complicating the hell out of buying a bike. I may be wrong but you own a bike because of how it makes you feel. Not only when you ride it but just looking at it. It doesn’t matter what you do to your bike as long as it makes you happy doing it. I have 2 old Harleys, both 79’s. I owned my first one in 79 and it was a different time. A Harley didn’t make you cool and they weren’t a luxury item. Leathers didn’t make you a badass, they kept your badass intact in case you came off your bike. T shirts didn’t cost $35 and an accessory was something you bolted on your bike. The whole point of owning a Harley is because you liked riding it, same as any other bike. So you can watch all these videos and let someone tell you what’s right/wrong with a Harley or, you can go and ride one. If you buy a bike for any reason other than you really like riding it you probably bought the wrong bike. So go find a bike you like and get some saddle time, you’ll enjoy it. I like these 2 guys, they’re good for the sport and maybe they’ll motivate some new people to become bike owners. Pay attention out there and get home safe.
I went to buy a Sportster 3 times in my life. Each time I took a test drive. I turned back to the dealer after about 100 feet. How is it possible that the Sportster, with it's beautiful looks, can't be 100 lbs lighter, have 100 horsepower, have no vibration? After 70 years?
That's the character
That, my friend, is why I hate Harley; they're too lazy, dumb, arrogant, pick one to make better bikes. They're already the best in the world, don't ya know.
So tell me again why you tried to buy a Sportster 3 times? Sounds like you couldn't get approved for the loan to me.
@@jonnymac8925 Exactly. That, and the atrocious Vibs.
Harley has had a 90 plus HP 500 lb Sportster in the catalog but it didn’t move. Blame their marketing or customers the XR was dropped due to lack luster sales.
The sporty is the kind of bike you can do anything you want and customize anyway you want for every riders style of riding. Put a hammer big bore kit and you will be doing mid 11s all night long at the track. I’ve had my share of rides from sport bikes to street bikes and even dirt bikes and I will always go back to a sporty. I personally still have an R1, a VRod, a Kawi KX250F and a sporty 883 that I converted to a 1275cc
Listening to Spite talk about Harleys is like listening to someone make excuses for their loser boy/girlfriend.
Sportsters are great, they just not sport enough for some and considered the little bike to guys with Streetglides but get one in your garage next to your Streetglide or Electraglide and you'll love it.
“You don't get a Harley for the performance" ...ouch that is not what you want to hear if you looking at Harley.
If you really want a cruiser, wait for the new Honda Rebel 1100.
@@xMarik96 or any japanese cruiser
You mean the 883 for performance.. my bike smokes Indians
You mean there are people that start looking at Harleys who don't already know they are slow? Wild.
...but I don’t care about performance... I want to look cool.
Yo, wait! What happened to the engine mod series? You didnt finish up the project yet?! Or did i miss it??
They had a part 2 of the build where they finished bolting it together, but we still haven't gotten any kind of ride review on the mods.
I've had my 1200 sportster for almost 2 years now. It went from bone stock to fully built and I couldn't be happier. It rides well on the road and will still rip a 10 second 1/4 mile. I love the looks, the sound, and the way it makes me feel. Its the moders dream. Theres so much aftermarket support its unreal. And its fun to hurt the crotch rocket boys feelings at the drag strip too😉
10 second 1\4 mile is better than most sports bike and that's with near 200hp and probably half the weight
@@chrishart8548 most modern liter bikes run high 9s and mid 10s. I race with them just about every weekend. Its all gearing🤷 my bike tops out right after the 1000 ft mark at 139. I'm also pushing WELL over 120 wheel. And my bike is 490 wet.
@@1FastTexan sounds like somebody has a hammer performance addiction lol
Is it carbureted or injected?
@@royjames196 fuel injected
Harleys are desirable just bcs it's expensive and brand image. No other manufacturer has that kind of privilege
ducati
😂 I was laughing when you guys popped out from behind the bikes. Street scrambler is the way and the only way between these two. But sumo is life
You get Harley to loosen up them blue
balls by taking advantage of its vibration
Throwing sparks on turns, the sound of the engine through worn out mufflers, and the vibes are what it is all about. I've had my Evo 883 since 1986, model year 1987. I've upgraded fuel tanks twice, put a full fairing on the front, crash bars, highway bars, p-pad, and sissy bar. I added saddle bags, and throw saddle bags over them. I also added a handlebar attached tool bag. It still runs great, plenty of power, and I can go 200 miles now on a fill. It doesn't bang out until 96 mph, and I've ridden it across the US twice in all weathers. The seat isn't ripped, but it has gotten stiff, and needs replaced. The fuel gage is giving the bike a shake at a stop light. If you can hear it sloshing around, your good.
Funny, to me a belt drive is a pro. I hate the chain drive maintenance, and it doesn’t have the power loss like a shaft drive.
What loss does the transfer case impose. I could imagine it's not very much, but it has to be some.
Chain is the most flexible, tho
I don’t mind the maintenance of a chain, as I’ve done field expedient repairs on a chain. When the belt is broken, it’s broken. Belts have their places, but so do chains. Also, if you’re stunting on a cruiser, you need a chain for the abuse.
@@lowcountryrob170 in thirteen years of riding, and taking residence in 3 states, I've known of one rider (TH-camrs not withstanding) to have had a belt failure. He had an early 100ci Victory named "Purple Eagle" and his second belt failure happened during a burnout at (I don't know the mileage precisely) over 130k. But yea, stunting on a belt drive is hard on belts, but it also accelerates wear on a chain and sprockets. When it happens, its a tow truck, and I won't dispute that.
Then get a Moto Guzzi V7/V9 with its shaft drive, you'll basically never have to touch it. Plus it looks better.
The Iron 883 was my 1st bike, it was a great first bike & got me into riding. I rode it for 3 years before stepping up to a BMW S1000R with no problems at all.
Wow
what made you move up and do you still have the bike. gettinng into riding. thinking of getting the 883 as my first bike.
I have 883 and I love it. Even though it's new it's like a old motorcycle.
I get that it's a great bike to mod because there's so much to fix. But what's wrong with starting out with a bike that's actually good and individualising that?
Its like buying a slow car and modding it to make it quick, or you can buy a quick car and mod it to go fast.
i personally dont like how sport bikes feel ergonomically, and i only ever go maybe 5 mph over the speed limit. some of the naked bikes sit a little better, but you still have to throw your leg over the tall back end of the bike. i originally looked at a z400 and it was just a pain in the butt to get on for me. i saved a couple grand and bought a well maintained 2008 883 and was so happy with how much torque it had and how comfortable it was to ride. now this was my second ever bike (had a dirt bike), but still considered it my starter bike. i may consider something like a soft tail or dyna later on.
The problem with mods is that by the time you pay for the bike, who has another $2K set aside for more purchases?
Harley always sells you two bikes. The first is assembled, and the second you buy one piece at a time.
I bought my motorcycle with mods in mind. Would much rather have something that is 2k less off the retail floor to make unique then get stuck with a ride that has little options.
Mind you, I did NOT get a HD haha
More like 5-10k to actually get performance out of it.
The fact is that if I want a Harley to cruise around on, I'm not going to look at a Suckakaki 300 because it's cheaper, lighter, and faster. I'm buying a bike that fits my needs, in this case, a 2015 Sportster 1200 Super Low with bags and a windshield. After 48 years of riding, I've learned to buy what I want and need and not to be pressured into buying something because it's cheaper or faster. You'll regret it. Ride what you want and be happy. Ride safe my friends.
Love how you guys continuously let me know when your opinions are objectively or subjectively reasoned. Can you do the same thing when you are being sarcastic or non sarcastic? I often do that to help people understand me.
30 years ago my overhead cam liquid cooled 50 hp 500cc honda shadow was 5 years old
It stops. It goes. It turns. That’s also my ten speed....... yours truly Spite,
Vulcan boys! 🤣
This will be my first motorcycle (New rider). I love the look, aftermarket options and the fact I only want it for part time riding..
same here. Im not a speed demon or have a death wish. I want something to commute to work and look cool doing so with a nice budget. they look comfortable too.
im thinkin about buying the iron 883 from my ex father in law. hes getting older and i'd like to have a chill cruiser for work or city commutes. my main bike is a 2023 BMW S1000R which i tend to ride to fast on commutes if you know what i mean. and the harley would be perfect for "transportation".
Is there an on-the-road video review of that engine displacement mod?
I own a 2015 xl883l or Superlow, I like the look of the bike.. it kind of low to the ground and forward controls, makes the bike comfortable. Sure I wish it had more power and wish the oil cap wasn't under my butt. Other then I do like it. Sure there are plenty of thinks Harley can improve upon, I won't argue with that. But in some ways, glad Harley's doesn't have too many electronics so you could probably work on them without taking it to a shop. Unlike mordern days cars, most look the same and many things you can't do yourself without taking it to a shop.
I have the 1200 sportster iron 1200 I love it.
Out of all the sportsters this on is g the e best.
I was choosing between 1200 and Triumph Bonneville Speedmaster and ended up with the latter on. Sportster looks great.
I'm 65 just retired ,worked physically hard most my life , still healthy but my bones stoving up ,I feel it coming ,old age , a relic , a has been , money in my pocket now , this bike sounds like me me , now to decide new or used , something bout it something to pass on ,very good video the good cop bad cop scenario, the pros and cons were conveyed in an intelligent manner , good video
Bought mine used 4000 miles 6250 saved enough for lots of gas
So if harley riders are just like every other rider why do they never wave? Do they require both hands on the bars at all times? Or are they just to cool to wave?
Too arrogant to wave.
I wave at everyone from my sportster..scooters...dude on a lawnmower...little kids on bikes. Sportster bois, dyna bros and bagger boomers are a few subcategories of the harley cult and all behave differently.
Actually I was wondering why sport bike riders never wave
@@beardedforlife3740 your back hurts to much to move your hand. I have ridden for year......I am old and fat now so that could be the real reason?
If you can get one used they're pretty great beginner bikes imo but brand new wayyyy too expensive for what it is
I owned and rode a Buell XB12 for 8 years and I loved it. It was quirky, hot, and vibrated something fierce. It was hipster AF. I have always been a sport bike rider favoring the modern street fighter style and configuration. The Buell really fit my taste. When I was in the market they were cheap too. I daily ride to work and lately I have been desiring a more cruiser riding position. I found a 2011 sportster superlow 883 for $4000 with low miles. I struggled to pass it up. I was sure that I would regret the power I was missing from the 1200cc buell motor. Call me crazy but this Sportster is a blast. It is everything that people say it is, old dated, simple heavy, and its awesome. Super robust parts, pretty simple by design. Easy to work on well for the most part anyway. I am becoming a Harley guy. Heee HAAAAA.
8:47 has the most terrifying black screen plus screeching beeping noise lol
Thanks for the heads up! 🙏
I agree with everything, but I bought an Iron 1200 6 months ago and I really love it. I've never looked at the best I can get, but what I like, I like the legacy, the idea of riding a harley, the sound remembers me all those movies with bad and good guys riding harleys, and I live just a few miles awey from Ducati's factory :D
The Honda rebel 1100 is going to put harley out of business. Just kidding, Harely is going to put themselves out of business. Unless they get more government help.
Never been interested in cruisers until the Rebel 1100 was announced. Now i may make the jump from sportbikes and dual sports.
That is such a true statement I completely agree.
I want a rebel 1100 because I think it is a True Japanese cruiser. Not a Japanese copy of a heritage cruiser. I was really thinking about buying a Rebel 500 but feel like the 1100 would fill more than one checkmark on my list. I really wanted a CB1100 for a long time but I ultimately decided it was a old bike since it was only air cooled and I want a modern cruiser.
Wait. No riding impressions on the Hammer 1275???
I thought chain drive is oldschool.
No, the earliest motorcycles used a leather belt for their final drive, the problem was transmission hadn't been invented in those days, so when you wanted to up a hill you had to stop the bike and slip the belt onto a larger pulley to get the bike up the incline.
I thought so also.
@@davidmacgregor5193 chain drive is pretty old tech
When are the giveaways coming to the UK 😩 even if the winner pays the shipping or some of it each
Once one gets over the latests gadgets, frills, and promises, a true motorcycle tragic gets the HD Sportster. It's motorcycling in its purest form. Raw, unapologetic, simple, and visceral. what makes one feel alive. Soulful and perfect.
You left out the best part; start it up and hear that mean custom exhaust sound!
Sportster Sickness UK 11k members who all love their bike . It must do some things right , right
How about ride it lol. Kind of meaningless review just standing next to it
The brakes are just a suggestion? I mean, I used to own an Iron and I know they're bad. But I also own a 1981 XT500. That's basically a thermodynamic paradox. It's front brake generates heat while not providing any stopping power.
I own the 2020 883 Iron, I have had everything from a Honda 100 to a 2016 streetglide , I love my sportster it gets it done for me .
As some one who did a test ride on the new 2020 sportster 883 and rides a 2000 sportster 1200 I will tell you it feels so good to buy American and ride a sportster if you can’t afford it but used you will not regret it watch my review on this bike
Top of the line new Sportster today < buell anything 10 years ago
Not rideable from the factory? Umm mine rode fine stock.
They compare every bike with sport bikes. They don't get what other motorcycles are
When yammi tucked behind that bike I lost it 😆 🤣 😂
I'll take the Ducati. Harley is just a brand name, with no performance to back it up. Only thing they are good for is annoying the whole neighborhood with the loud exhaust!
Wonder who actually likes all that excessive noise. I think the south park episode sums up what people think of Harley Davidson bikes with loud exhaust pipes
At least I don't have to maintenance my harley every week like a ducati
@@beardedforlife3740 I never do nothing to my ducati.. it just goes.. Just oil changes
Harley Davidson: "Yesterdays technology at today's prices"
Yea but when I look back at my back I would rather see my 2020 low rider s. Stage 2.. 125 hp and 131 torque.. then a R1 or whatever sports bikes.. could have easily gotten any top of line sports bike but to me they all look the same and can’t do much with them other then just go fast. And wouldn’t fit in with them cause I’m not built like a twig
@@Iniquityslasher 85mph is the top highway speed in the nation. Most places it is 55 to 70mph on highways. You need enough power to get to speed quickly and for avoidance of other vehicles. 40HP is the bare bones limit for highway speeds. 100HP is excessive.
@@exexpat11 what on earth is excessive hp? You do know you don't have to use all the horsepower. Any combustion engine is best used at half its power. If you need 40hp get 80hp and use half. If you ride at high elivation the power almost halves anyway. And a pillion or steep hills don't help either. I have 85hp. I would not want any less that's for sure. Having the girlfriend on the back really takes the edge off the performance. It's just about ok otherwise.
I thought it was yesterdays technology at tomorrows prices
@@chrishart8548 I was thinking along the lines of a Kawasaki H2 with 197HP. How much of that 197HP are you going to use on the street at just a little over the speed limit? 80? 100? 120? I have boosted my HD Roadster up to 75HP myself. I would like to get it to the mid 80's. Will I use all of it? Probably not. I know I'll never get it to 120HP.
Guys, not sure that you get this bike. It goes faster than any legal speed limit in the world. The weight is an advantage in windy conditions. Belt drive old school??? What the???
Belt drive equals not oil and shit all over the place, no maintenance and a quiet, no noise drive train. Its a relaxing bike to ride, no screaming rpm motor below you. Brakes.... never had an issue them, stops great. Totally customisable. As an owner of multiple bikes, I'm confused by this video. Because this not a bike that screams high hp, you knock it. Lmao.... shakes your eye balls out. Its a motorbike guys, not a f,ing sewing machine. own one, put more than 20k klms on it, then review it, maybe then you opinion will change.
I wish my 50 year old father would understand this
To him HD are the greatest 😂
That's because they are..
HD are the greatest, nobody bats an eye at the millionth crotch rocket zipping down the freeway, can't say the same for a harley.
@@m3talc0re bruv they reqiure so much maintenence
Im not saying they are bad but atleast they should from other companys
@@tanishkkain1407 all bikes require maintenance. You know why Harleys are in the shop so much? Because they're ridden all the time.
Well........
They r kinda attracting 40 year old dads only
They get the younger audience
Id rathwr get a 1200... ive always said that. But came across a 883r... Has tc bros controls(wish it had mid control) and screaming eagle bits... for 2500 bucks. Hard to pass that up
Triumph has had MAJOR transmission issues, while the Sportster has a tough one.
You tell 'em Spite!
this reminds me of 90's romcom like "He Said, She Said" staring Yammy Bacon and Rebecca Spite.
Omg 😁
Not entirely convinced by this analysis. I bought a 2004 XL with 40,000 miles on it, stock with the exception a pair of slip on silencers, and a K&N filter. It went well enough, but the handling was a bit baggy. I rebuilt the suspension to suit my weight, and set up the steering geometry, threw in a carb' jet kit, and off we went. Grossly over geared, so on went a chain and sprocket kit (21/51 IIRC) to lower the gearing. Goes like a stabbed rat up to 100, and handles predictably, no serious vibration. Starts on the button, no electrical problems, or mechanical. Seems OK for a 17 year old motorcycle.
I busted out laughing when he reffered to the Street Scrambler as the Bonneville
+2 for the shadetree surgeon reference and sponge bob blockhead cut!
Incredible review. You guys are great. Easily one of my favorite motorcycle channels. Keep it coming.
Still a beautiful simple fun bike n i am a sport bike guy own 3 but eventually want a nice Harley to play with
"The Sportster has been unchanged since 1957....well, besides the ABS and fuel injection." My DRZ laughs.
A lot more than just that has changed
Absolutely love my 07 883, 150 miles on a tank, extremely reliable, I can throw this hog around corners like nobody's business and the best is the simplicity and traditional look of the Sportster. When people picture a motorcycle they picture a Sportster.
Dealer near me wants 9500$ for a dropped, scratched up in several areas, dented fuel tank, bent handlebar, wont start 2020 883 with 1300 miles... The money people are willing to pay for these is nuts. I do like these but not nearly that much.
Well, that dealer is greedy and f uk d in the head.
It's the removable sleeves that got me 😆
the fact that he bought that jacket got me. nevermind the removable sleeves
HD, drink the koolaid, buy the shirt... or spend less and buy a japanese cruiser that handles better, has more power, requires no mods, is more reliable, and honestly doesn't look any worse. I love that you guys kept comparing this to a 300cc bike, which, is honest; because most of the beginner 300cc bikes probably have more power and handle better.
I work with a fella that decided to get a bike a couple of years ago. He was hell bent on getting a HD; the image was more important than the machine to him. To help him out, I went to the local HD dealer with him. While there, I got to listen to the sales folks try to sell him a $25k bike he didn't need. Make fun of the bike he did want, a Street 500, when they told him "we normally don't sell those to men." Proceed to try to up-sell him on everything, and take a bike that should have been about $8k out the door, to north of $13k out the door. At that point I was able to convince him to go across the road to the Honda/Yamaha/Suzuki dealer, and look at a Honda Rebel. There, the dealer treated him well, and he bought a brand new Rebel 500, which was better in every way over the Street 500, for less than the base price of the Street 500.
Interestingly, that HD dealership is no more; they were closed down this past fall. That Honda/Yamaha/Suzuki dealer is still there.
God those guys at the dealership sound so lame. Rebels are sick, did you show your buddy the new rebel 1100 yet? I didn't really have that experience at my 2 local harley dealers.
With all the issues that HD has, the dealerships are by far their biggest problem.
@@mizzle299 I've never been in a bad harley dealership
First time seeing you guys, love the "objective vs subjective" style. Add in some really clever one liners for entertainment, you guys are gold!! Not sure if you helped me on my decision to buy or not but certainly armed me with lots of things to consider when I start my test rides..... I will ride a few pre-owned slightly modded bikes before I ride a new one.