I have the Mk II version and a couple of the PRO lenses. Technically, the camera is quite good. However, this camera is just a LOT of fun to shoot with. I think that's an important factor, too.
I’ve got the Mark 2 of this and love it. It has a touch screen too. The 45mm lens you use is my favorite. And I can get high quality 16x20 prints out of it, good enough to hang on a wall in a gallery.
thanks for pointing out the printing....i wish he would've mentioned how the photos would print at 16mp but thanks a lot 16 by 20 is a nice size and of course i'd use my dslr for bigger images
I have taken a crazy number of photos with my old OM-D E-M5, more than 120,000, and have slowly adopted a very odd way of holding the camera where I actually hold it from the bottom and just put my thumb over. Partially thanks to the IBIS, I never get camera shake, and for me it solves the small grip problem, haha. Sounds crazy but it works for me.
I personally don't see 16mp as being an issue as it wasn't that long ago people were raving about 8mp. At 300 dpi you can comfortably print fantastic prints at 16"x12" which is usually the largest (or maybe 19"x13" if you use a home printer) that people print for home. C/AF is always an achilles heel of the M/43 system if you want to shoot sports and action. Great review as always.
I like to print on A4+ and A3+. Now there is Not a problem I believe, at all, as there is a lot of very good or outstanding software available. (like Aurora 2019 and Luminar from sky soft). In my opinion Aurora 2019 can make photo's sharper beyond one's wildest dreams. So, 16.1 mp is absolutely no big deal at all. Just don't overdo it with to many noisy colours, stay pure in the topic and objective(s). Just a very slight upping will change your world. A3 printing needs 300dpi at minimum for good sharp clear print. That's all folks, don't let the photographic industry make you crazy. I just bought the mark III today after 120 hours+ research! Budget and quality was decisive. My printer is Epson 15000 that gives stunning prints that I sell for over 100 euro each, average, on A3+ and with superior original epson ink. I put my Canon 1200 (or rebel), in the spare kit box. My Canon Ixus 127 HS. 16.1 mp has served me well and I still use it, also in spare kit box. My Nexus 5 telephone is still a heart breaker and gives very good photo's.
Hi Matt. Perhaps you got a bad 45mm F1.8 because mine is eye bleedingly sharp. Also saying it's only a 16mp sensor and in the same breath 'Cell phones are at 16mp now" really doesn't give me confidence that you know much about technology. You simply cannot seriously make that kind of comparison. Also, 4K video is 8.3 megapixels - not 12mp Nice photos and clips, and a great place to visit but as a review your technical expertise is rather novice and fairly under researched. Oh, noting that the 7-14 f2.8 lens was weather sealed you should have really mentioned the camera body is not.
Hi Matt, No mate, I just replayed it - no mention of non-weather sealed body. Also, don't get caught by the megapixel thing. It's 2018 - it's a non-issue. (16mp is way too many for social media photos :) ) Remember the Sony A7S II full frame camera has a 12.2mp sensor. It's not how many pixels you have it's the 'pixel size' that counts.
sir steve, may i just ask what camera will you choose xt20 or the omd m10? thanks. i need the stabilization of om d m10 but thinking of its limitations compare to the xt20. i think xt20 wins in terms of the ability to give more. and between the 2, which camera will i choose to learn more in photography. because limitations limits the user to some possibilities right?
Photography isn't about your camera, it's about you and your own limitations. Bells'n'whistles only sound good on paper. I would always choose m43 cameras as I have m43 lenses.
I really like that you made this video! It's very interesting to hear your perspective on these types of cameras, seeing as you are coming from a entirely different angle than I am. I own an entry level micro four thirds camera (Olympus E-PL7) and I'm having a lot of fun with it. For me, the compromises that an MFT system entails suits me just fine; I get a small body, small lenses, lightweight overall, a wide range of affordable lenses, etc. However, on the drawback side of things I sometimes would like a wider angle lens (haven't invested in anything wider than the 14-42 kit lens yet) for landscape photography, and also the fairly noisy images due to the small sensor can be somewhat frustrating in low light. But other than that, I really enjoy being able to fit all of my camera gear inside a small ThinkTank bag that I can chuck into my other backpacks etc. when I'm out and about, be it traveling, hiking, or just handholding the camera when walking the dog (even with the 40-150mm Olympus zoom lens to reach those far away birds that won't come close to me and the dog ;)).
Thanks for the review Matt. One thing worth mentioning, the mark 2 version can be a better budget / value option if stills are your goal and not video, as it has everything bar 4K.
I've had my used EM-5 Mark I for a few years now and it's still the best camera I've had. I don't know if I should upgrade anytime soon as it's getting old
Verik im sticking with my original em5 and oly hand grip .... at the end of the day, old or not, the em5 gives you better ergonomics and great weather sealing .... it also gives the same image quality, body stabilisation and ISO noise performance found in anything else in the OMD line up ....
Great video Matt! I love that footage of the intimate prayer session. Please could you do a field tested review of the em-5 III when it comes out. Also, do you have any predictions as to when that will happen and what specs it might have? All the best!
A camera I use regularly I bought back in 2005 is a capable of 8 m pixel and I don't even use the full resolution. Naturally, when I look and compare the new models the pixel count is the first thing I ignore. I can't imagine many people make prints any larger than 8x10 regularly. Are people just happy seeing the larger number like comparing max. speed of the car they never get to try on any road? Focusing speed is somewhat important but I hardly shoot the moving object, but I'm interested in video taking in the future with the next camera with reliable focus tracking. Image quality is the utmost importance(for me), specially the color and dynamic range. From that point, this camera seems to be good.
3:30: "The 45mm 1.8 is not that sharp". What? According to DxoMark, the Olympus 45mm/1.8 has a P-Mpix rating of 13MP on a 16MP camera. That's a sharpness factor of 81%, which places it in company with some of the sharpest prime lenses from Canon, Nikon and Sony. You have to have at least a P-Mpix of 30MP on a 36MP camera to get better results and there isn't that much affordable glass in that territory. In fact, lenses such as the 45/1.8 and 25/1.8 ( and some of the amazing Olympus and Panasonic zooms) which are ridiculously cheap for their optical qualities are the main reason Micro 4/3 is even considered as a serious format in comparison to larger sensored and higher resolution cameras. In any case, thank you for the thoughtful review of the Olympus OMD E-M10 Mark III. A great camera for the money for sure.
Now that looks familiar. You appear to be getting the same panning judder I get on my old EM-5. Great little travel cameras I find but not for video where panning is needed.
Really enjoyed this one, Matt. Loved watching bits of Nepal including the cute kitty. I suppose most of your observations would apply for EPL9 as well, minus the EVF. Do you know how the little kit zoom from olympus compares with the little 12-32 from panasonic?
Nice video, I love my EM10Mii and EM10MiiiS that I got used. Both work perfectly and are my EDC kit cameras. My APSc and FF cameras sit on the shelf alot because of these.
if I mainly want a camera for family photos and the occasional video, and maybe to start learning photography would you recommend this camera or is there another you recommend? im looking for a camera that's not too expensive or heavy because I want to be able to carry it with me to family gatherings
I do my photography for fun. To the extent that I have used photos for business, it has been limited to Facebook and Instagram for my wife's boutique. I do most of my shots in aperture priority using a collection of Legacy lenses (about 30 of them and with some going as far back as the late '50's; from Canon FD and FL, to Super Takumar, Hexanon, Nikkor, Helios, Industar, etc.). I spent a lot of time and "effort" collecting those lenses (also fun), which I store in glass cabinets for display, and get a lot of fun out of using them (and showing them off). Sure, I get lazy sometimes, and default to the Galaxy S10+..which is a great pocket shooter and phone...frankly awesome for landscapes and now with an update, night shots. But when it comes to portraits...I really like using those old Legacies on a stabilized body. I have been using the Olympus OM EM10 Mark I for years now, and have gotten used to its functions and menu. Thinking about an upgrade at some point, and will probably stay with Olympus for this reason: Price-performance for my use case and familiarity. Else, jump ship to the G85. With legacy, I do not need the latest and greatest camera body on the market...so the previous generation's price is fine for me. What I really want is decent in-body stabilization. 4K?...will do that with my smartphone.
Hello matt, I’m an owner of an Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mark III & I’m not exactly sure which lens I should be looking for to do portrait style/fashion styled photography. I also seek to have full body shots with the lens you recommend to me. So if you could get back to me with some recommended options I’d truly appreciate it.
Thank you for this short review, very nice travel photography included for free. I shoot with a pair of "one inch" sensors coupled to Zeiss lenses: Sony RX100M2 and RX10. Both are great for travel. On my last trip, I hold a E-M10-MkII with 12-40 f/2.8 in my hands. That camera is just beautiful, but I can't see myself limited to such a small focal range, neither would carry a couple of lenses in my bag, so I'm going to keep my superzoom for a while. Have a good new year. Greetings from Brazil!
Thanks! This is Fieldtested right?? You are doing great reviews. Still, like most, I am again missing some infos about DR. I realize that it may not be important to every one but for me its right up their with IQ, Focus etc. (or even above). Doing some landscape and on slow winter days I like to push the files in post.... Also I would still be interested if the extra you pay for the M1 or M5 is worth it ;) (Considering this a second walk around camera; not Main camera).
Hi, I'm a beginner and will getting my first mirrorless camera..entry level of course. Should I be getting Olympus OM-D M10 Mark III or Fujifilm XT100 ? I'm torn between these two. Thank you.
I bought this recently, at a bargain price, secondhand and in excellent condition. I have to say, I think I’m enjoying it more than other pricier models I own (I may as well sell those now). The mechanical shutter is quiet which is good as you can’t use electronic shutter in manual mode. The viewfinder is great for such a small camera. I’ve got the Olympus 17mm f1.8 almost permanently attached to it. But it suits other good primes like the 12mm f2 and the 45mm f1.8. I guess there’s additional grips that can be bought for the comfort of larger lenses too. I believe they released a ‘mkiii s’ version which allows use of the electronic shutter in manual modes. It’s a shame they didn’t do it as a firmware update for this camera. But still a solid camera and a bargain if found secondhand these days
me too. got one 2nd hand a few weeks ago. no complaints so far. some of the art filters are a bit weird though (watercolour). Not sure I'll use that much but ive already got some cracking pictures.
I own this camera and your wrap up comments match my observations/results as well. Auto focus needs a bit of an upgrade but other wise I've had some good results.
Hello my friend. Your video is so good and detailed, I really like it. I want to ask you, i need a camera which i want to take slow motion videos,maybe can be used at nights as well, stabilization,4k. Can you suggest me a budget camera? Im looking at Olympus M10 Mark III 14-42 mm + 40-150 mm IR Kit, do you suggest me this? Or any other cameras? Thanks. 👍
Thanks mate, I think not grabbing the 12-40 f2.8 Pro is a mistake, as it is a superb lens. Excellent stuff, this little buddy is so small and light I end up taking it everywhere. Cheers matt.
Why is Panasonic and Leica left out in this video? the Leica 42.5mm is the best 85mm eq you can buy! Also to mention there are also very interesting entry-level DSLM from Panasonic like the older GX8 and it has 21.5MP.
I think this camera is a direct competitor to the Panasonic GX80 or 85. I've been thinking about getting the GX80 or this EM10 mk3, but I can't make up my mind...
Recently been infatuated with the Mark II, kind of want to get one, is the addition of 4k video worth the extra 100 bill or so? One thing, not sure if its TH-cam or what, but the 4k vids seem, oddly off, like there's a missing frame or something? I'm wondering if that's due to the 30fps vs 24fps youtube usually streams at? or is that a problem of the Image Stabilization? I'm torn because I don't have a camera, and I just want a good all around camera -- there seems to be a huge gap between quality point and shoots (as the phone market has really bitten into that) and entry level compact large sensor cameras. for now I've basically narrowed it down to the Olympus M10 Mark II or Mark III, or a Nikon D3400 (as a certified refurb, its really hard to beat it for the price).
No one mentions the lack of Bluetooth. Why you say? Because GPS is not here anymore and with bluetooth you can finally geotag photos live as you take them without all the fuss. For me it's the biggest deal breaker as I search for photos by location A LOT!
Matt, I've got the 45mm f1.8 and it is the sharpest lens I've ever owned - I had the 45mm f1.2 on loan from Oly for a couple of weeks and it was marginally sharper at f1.8 than that beast - maybe you have a duff one?
woahhh, rather a pompous and patronising reply! I've only been professional for 33 years, and shot in huge studios and at the BBC for a decade, as well as many years freelance....so maybe I haven't had experienced many lenses (!) - I'm not a fan of sharp, it's very overrated and can't make a crappy photo any better.
Got a question. Shot a 10 minute video 4k 30p. 2 files 5 minutes each. Why not one single file? Card is a Toshiba Exceria Pro 128 Gb SDXC uhs I c10 U3. Is it normal?
In your comparisons you should have also mentioned the lower end models from Panasonic. The G7 is cheaper but is older and bigger but easier to hold it should have slightly better AF still with the DFD system. It is lacking stabilisation but given most Panasonic lenses are stabilised that is not as much of an issue. Then there is the GX85 which is maybe slightly cheaper still and a bit older but is more similar in shape and has both ibis and in lens too which can work together. Then there is the G85 which is a G7 with IBIS which is a bit more expensive. They are all 16mpx too and to me produce a slightly nicer image. They also can use all of those lenses you used too as they have the same lens mount. That said I would still not mind one with that pancake zoom you are using for a good pocket camera that should take better images than the advanced compacts as it has a much larger sensor. I also wanted to make a comment on the IBIS I would hope you could have taken photos of more than 1 second handheld with that camera especially if you had been using the 12-100 F4 which is the ideal companion to a camera like that for the average traveller.
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I think whats holding them back is the lens prices. The tamron 15-30 is currently (on amazon.de) 880 while the oly 7-14 is 1180. The APS-C Sigma is about 380 (f3.5 tho). A lot of the m43 third party lenses seem to be designed for APS-C with a m43 mount. I hope that olympus lens pricing will change because i really like their cameras.
The 7-14mm is expensive but for me it's better than the tamron 15-30mm IQ wise and a lot more portable. The quality been higher I'm not surprise the price is higher too. I've not had a better utrawide than that 7-14mm and I tried many in canon, sigma, pentax etc. The pentax 15-30mm was more expensive new than the olympus 7-14mm here, not cheaper. I didn't keep the 15-30mm for various reasons one been wide open and 15mm the focus wasn't perfectly centered.
Panasonic have good lenses, many that are smaller, and often cheaper (14 an 20 for example). Ultra wide has been an issue though, The Laowa 7.5 is the obvious choice now.
@photo4max where you get that they are much sharper ? I have many FF glass and m43 and what you are saying isn't true at all. In the example of adrian the comparison is bad since most ff 50mm need to be stopped down to get close to the sharpnessf and iq of the panasonic 25mm f1.4. The 25mm f1.7 would compare to other nifty fifty and is super cheap.
Could you maybe do a short "what's in by bag" video on clothing and such for photography trips in challenging conditions? Don't need to be very specific as far as brands and models go, but would be nice to get some insight into what to bring along besides camera gear on a trip to Nepal, Peru, Iceland and other such places with diverse weather conditions, in order to keep oneself focused on photography rather than the weather. Just an idea that occurred to me, seeing how I've been looking for a new shell jacket and immediately spotted your Arc'teryx.
Nice Video! I think you could improve the quality a bit more by reducing the reverb on the in the studio spoken part (a bit of foam or a carpet etc could already be enough). "Dry" sound on spoken parts would make it more professional. Here on TH-cam Sound is always more important than Pictures.
Nice review. The thicker grip on the E-M10 III is a nice feature as well. I'm still rocking an E-P5 for my Olympus gear but liked the E-M10 III when I tried it. Just wish Olympus would put their duel hybrid autofocus in another camera other than the E-M1 series. Oly fans really take a back seat even when it comes to single point autofocus with moving subjects. Here's hoping for it in the E-M5 III... Also, for anyone that's interested in the 7-14mm. I totally recommend the 8mm 1.8 fisheye pro if you have the scratch. I can say it is sharper than the 7-14mm Panasonic after being defished with Fisheye Hemi. It's also sharper than the 9-18mm (I had that one twice) does better with back lit subjects by far and very nice sunstars. Even cropped it beats the 7-14mm panasonic and from what I can tell, the Olympus as well. Crazy short focusing distance as well! The samyang isn't bad either (had that one)..only main difference I could tell was not as nice sunstars, but really good outside of that. The fisheye pro and any Olympus body is an awesome set up!!!
How is the autofocus and the stabilizer while "action" video? Do you have experience with the Sony alpha a6000? I am considering to get either of them. Thank you!
And I'm the guy that wants to shoot a movie on film, but cannot afford that. However, I can shoot it on this camera and give it film grain in post production.
have you ever noticed any overheating issue from that new mirrorless? coz its one of the main issue over the olympus mirrorless camera just like the mark 2 and other model.
My E-M10II, purchased used in May, 2018 for $330, came with the Olympus Camera Grip ECG-3. This clicks on precisely, comes off easily for access to the battery and card, and expands the hand grip (right-handed; not sure what lefties do) to a perfect size for carrying in one hand. I've carried it in comfort for a good hour at least. I use a light wrist strap for safety in case of an accidental drop. The Grip barely adds anything to the bulk of the camera, so you still feel like it is tiny.
I had the OM-E10 Mark for almost 2 years. The most compact system I ever used, even the old IBIS was great but the downside was the 16MP and it low-light-performance. I mostly shot my kid and she is moving all the time so you have to crop often and the ISO is high for times under 1/125s
Nice review Matt. You mention that the Contrast Detect AF isn't great for fast moving subject. Can you expand on what you mean by fast moving? For instance, would it cope happily with a car coming towards it at 30mph (only one plane of movement) whereas it would struggle with a footballer moving in an unpredictable manner. Or are we really only worried about BIF or F1 car speeds?
My experience with the 10mkii is that it can't focus on ANYTHING that's moving. I love the camera and it focuses fine on non-moving subjects, but if it's moving at all, you're out of luck (unless you're really good at manually focusing and get one of their lenses that's not focus-by-wire).
It's not from what I've read. You might want to wait to see if they put their phase detect AF into the em5iii that's likely coming out in the next few months or I'd look at Sony's offerings (like the a6300), though I think Oly/Pana have a better selection of compact, affordable lenses.
hey matt, id like to see a comparison between a Pro Mirrorless, and the equivalent priced DSLR. Lets say an XT2 vs a Nikon Equivalent $$ or Canon? Nice video :)
I disagree. The GX85 can be brought with a lot lens, as well as an added zoom for around $600. And 4K video is better and has ibis, and can be charged via USB. It's the best for the money.
I'm surprised you find the 7-14mm f2.8 less sharp or IQ than the 15-30mm tamrom, I've had a lot of ultra wide in my life and the 7-14mm is the best so far IQ wise and the F2.8 is so handy.
I have the Mk II version of this camera (also has the touch screen). It's a secondary to my Canon full frame kit. I bought it to keep on me all the time, and it is a ton of fun to shoot with. I find myself grabbing the Olympus for personal projects more often than I grab my Canon kit.
I have an Olympus OM-D E-M10 (mark nothing); 12-42mm EZ kit lens (mediocre, but small); $160 (US) used from eBay; a few cheap f/1.7 prime lenses (15, 20 and 25mm), and a 12-40mm f/2.8 PRO lens (spectacular, but big). I have to say I was quite disappointed with the specs on the Mark III. I was expecting 20MP minimum (my Canon G7x is 20MP in a smaller sensor) and NOT expecting the re-engineered, dumbed-down menu system. It's disappointing to see that the silent shutter is only available in AP mode. Olympus didn't ask me. Maybe an E-M5 when it goes to 20MP. Maybe that's Olympus' plan...
Looks like a very nice entry level camera and a good segue into the Olympus System. As for the megapixel concerns, 16 is plenty. "More" and "bigger" is mostly just advertising hype. I'm still using the OM-D E-M1 and I get great images for online use as well as truly beautiful prints from its 16 MP sensor. I recently mounted a new one which is about three feet long and it looks amazing!
good review, correct me if I;m wrong but when we talk about how many pixels there are, isn't a micro 4/3 16 Mega pixels the same pixel density as a aps-c 24 megapixel camera? or darn close to the same?
Interesting to see impressions on this kit.Liked that., but found the fast cuts between portraits and animals to be very jarring to look at
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I did get a Olympus OMD-EM10 when it had been on the market a year or so, it still work for me as a mature and I like the small grip due to my small hands, but if I had been a bit richer I would love to upgrade to m3, but at 05:43 in this video do I see a lens flare with a huge amount of purple in it that I think look horrible, was that from the lens or the post processing?
The mark III made an interesting choice to disable some of the options. The one I'm most upset about are the options surrounding bracketing. Bracketing is only available in their "AP" mode (which is unfortunately, limited). Now you can no longer set a shutter delay timer in conjunction with exposure bracketing. That's a big deal if you like to shoot landscapes. You could certainly use a remote shutter, or your phone as a shutter, but the convenience is gone. Surprising move for a camera at this price point. ):
I love my EM10Mii and EM10MiiiS, however not happy that the iiiS has some resolution options disables that are available on my Mii model. Still love both cameras tho.
Man! could you do a budgetography review of the canon 5d classic? Field tested please ;) or how about a comparison between the latest entry level bodies of nikon, canon, sony, ....?
Hey, nice review, I should buy a camera that I would mainly use for video (travel and maybe some short films, so I'd like it to have a good performance with low light and versatility in post for doing color grading) I wouldn't mind if it also produced some good images to photograph family events and the like, I did some research on my own and I restricted myself to this Olympus and to the Canon eos 250d they are both cameras that more or less with the respective kit lenses fall within my budget I wish they were already decently usable out of the box without any more major purchases, I would buy more lenses just after a while, I know that Olympus produces a good image and has an incredible stabilization but it seems that it’s uncertain in low light , instead the Canon has the fantastic dual pixel autofocus but it has an unusable 4K mode given the crop and don’t know if the stabilization of his lenses can match that of Olympus, what do you recommend?
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I have the Mk II version and a couple of the PRO lenses. Technically, the camera is quite good. However, this camera is just a LOT of fun to shoot with. I think that's an important factor, too.
the live composite view is our new favourite thing
So true! I have it for almost a year now, and the usability of this camera is just so good. It’s so much fun to use it
Totally agree! A fun camera with high quality images too.
I sold it because it bugged too often :(
Hi there.. I'm thinking to buy this camera (600 euros body + two lenses) What problem did you have exactly? Thanks
I’ve got the Mark 2 of this and love it. It has a touch screen too. The 45mm lens you use is my favorite. And I can get high quality 16x20 prints out of it, good enough to hang on a wall in a gallery.
thanks for pointing out the printing....i wish he would've mentioned how the photos would print at 16mp but thanks a lot 16 by 20 is a nice size and of course i'd use my dslr for bigger images
Which destroys the "entry level" camera statements.
I think your reviews are some of the most honest and trustworthy reviews out there. I really enjoy them.
Searched for the Olympus OM-D user reviews and the first thing I see is one from my hometown. Cheers from Kathmandu. Definitely getting the Olympus.
I have taken a crazy number of photos with my old OM-D E-M5, more than 120,000, and have slowly adopted a very odd way of holding the camera where I actually hold it from the bottom and just put my thumb over. Partially thanks to the IBIS, I never get camera shake, and for me it solves the small grip problem, haha. Sounds crazy but it works for me.
I personally don't see 16mp as being an issue as it wasn't that long ago people were raving about 8mp. At 300 dpi you can comfortably print fantastic prints at 16"x12" which is usually the largest (or maybe 19"x13" if you use a home printer) that people print for home. C/AF is always an achilles heel of the M/43 system if you want to shoot sports and action. Great review as always.
I like to print on A4+ and A3+. Now there is Not a problem I believe, at all, as there is a lot of very good or outstanding software available. (like Aurora 2019 and Luminar from sky soft). In my opinion Aurora 2019 can make photo's sharper beyond one's wildest dreams. So, 16.1 mp is absolutely no big deal at all.
Just don't overdo it with to many noisy colours, stay pure in the topic and objective(s). Just a very slight upping will change your world.
A3 printing needs 300dpi at minimum for good sharp clear print. That's all folks, don't let the photographic industry make you crazy.
I just bought the mark III today after 120 hours+ research! Budget and quality was decisive. My printer is Epson 15000 that gives stunning prints that I sell for over 100 euro each, average, on A3+ and with superior original epson ink. I put my Canon 1200 (or rebel), in the spare kit box. My Canon Ixus 127 HS. 16.1 mp has served me well and I still use it, also in spare kit box.
My Nexus 5 telephone is still a heart breaker and gives very good photo's.
Hi Matt. Perhaps you got a bad 45mm F1.8 because mine is eye bleedingly sharp.
Also saying it's only a 16mp sensor and in the same breath 'Cell phones are at 16mp now" really doesn't give me confidence that you know much about technology. You simply cannot seriously make that kind of comparison. Also, 4K video is 8.3 megapixels - not 12mp
Nice photos and clips, and a great place to visit but as a review your technical expertise is rather novice and fairly under researched.
Oh, noting that the 7-14 f2.8 lens was weather sealed you should have really mentioned the camera body is not.
Thanks Steve. I may be wrong but I think I mention the body sealing in conclusion.
Hi Matt,
No mate, I just replayed it - no mention of non-weather sealed body.
Also, don't get caught by the megapixel thing. It's 2018 - it's a non-issue. (16mp is way too many for social media photos :) ) Remember the Sony A7S II full frame camera has a 12.2mp sensor. It's not how many pixels you have it's the 'pixel size' that counts.
sir steve, may i just ask what camera will you choose xt20 or the omd m10? thanks.
i need the stabilization of om d m10 but thinking of its limitations compare to the xt20. i think xt20 wins in terms of the ability to give more. and between the 2, which camera will i choose to learn more in photography. because limitations limits the user to some possibilities right?
Photography isn't about your camera, it's about you and your own limitations. Bells'n'whistles only sound good on paper. I would always choose m43 cameras as I have m43 lenses.
I owned a SamsungNX 500 which I loved, how does this camera compare? I'm looking for a night sky/ timelapse camera as my NX500 bit the dust recently.
I really like that you made this video! It's very interesting to hear your perspective on these types of cameras, seeing as you are coming from a entirely different angle than I am.
I own an entry level micro four thirds camera (Olympus E-PL7) and I'm having a lot of fun with it. For me, the compromises that an MFT system entails suits me just fine; I get a small body, small lenses, lightweight overall, a wide range of affordable lenses, etc. However, on the drawback side of things I sometimes would like a wider angle lens (haven't invested in anything wider than the 14-42 kit lens yet) for landscape photography, and also the fairly noisy images due to the small sensor can be somewhat frustrating in low light. But other than that, I really enjoy being able to fit all of my camera gear inside a small ThinkTank bag that I can chuck into my other backpacks etc. when I'm out and about, be it traveling, hiking, or just handholding the camera when walking the dog (even with the 40-150mm Olympus zoom lens to reach those far away birds that won't come close to me and the dog ;)).
Thanks for the review Matt. One thing worth mentioning, the mark 2 version can be a better budget / value option if stills are your goal and not video, as it has everything bar 4K.
Very nice photo and videography. Something we don't always see along with product reviews.
I've had my used EM-5 Mark I for a few years now and it's still the best camera I've had. I don't know if I should upgrade anytime soon as it's getting old
Verik I'm waiting for the em5 Iii. I prefer the form factor of the em5 to that of the em1, so im staying in that family.
Verik im sticking with my original em5 and oly hand grip .... at the end of the day, old or not, the em5 gives you better ergonomics and great weather sealing .... it also gives the same image quality, body stabilisation and ISO noise performance found in anything else in the OMD line up ....
Great video Matt! I love that footage of the intimate prayer session.
Please could you do a field tested review of the em-5 III when it comes out. Also, do you have any predictions as to when that will happen and what specs it might have?
All the best!
I like the documentary parts more than the camera comments, really a joy to watch :-)
A camera I use regularly I bought back in 2005 is a capable of 8 m pixel and I don't even use the full resolution.
Naturally, when I look and compare the new models the pixel count is the first thing I ignore.
I can't imagine many people make prints any larger than 8x10 regularly.
Are people just happy seeing the larger number like comparing max. speed of the car they never get to try on any road?
Focusing speed is somewhat important but I hardly shoot the moving object, but I'm interested in video taking in the future with the next camera with reliable focus tracking.
Image quality is the utmost importance(for me), specially the color and dynamic range.
From that point, this camera seems to be good.
3:30: "The 45mm 1.8 is not that sharp". What?
According to DxoMark, the Olympus 45mm/1.8 has a P-Mpix rating of 13MP on a 16MP camera. That's a sharpness factor of 81%, which places it in company with some of the sharpest prime lenses from Canon, Nikon and Sony. You have to have at least a P-Mpix of 30MP on a 36MP camera to get better results and there isn't that much affordable glass in that territory. In fact, lenses such as the 45/1.8 and 25/1.8 ( and some of the amazing Olympus and Panasonic zooms) which are ridiculously cheap for their optical qualities are the main reason Micro 4/3 is even considered as a serious format in comparison to larger sensored and higher resolution cameras.
In any case, thank you for the thoughtful review of the Olympus OMD E-M10 Mark III. A great camera for the money for sure.
Now that looks familiar. You appear to be getting the same panning judder I get on my old EM-5. Great little travel cameras I find but not for video where panning is needed.
Video doesn't seem great but the photos aren't bad at all :) These are only around £350 now in the UK
Hi there. Very cool review. My question is can I use it in the winter when it's minus all the day? If yes, how long and till which temperature?
Really enjoyed this one, Matt. Loved watching bits of Nepal including the cute kitty. I suppose most of your observations would apply for EPL9 as well, minus the EVF. Do you know how the little kit zoom from olympus compares with the little 12-32 from panasonic?
Unbelievable camera body stabilization. Thumbs up! Do we need to match that IBIS with the same lens that has IS?
Nice video, I love my EM10Mii and EM10MiiiS that I got used. Both work perfectly and are my EDC kit cameras. My APSc and FF cameras sit on the shelf alot because of these.
if I mainly want a camera for family photos and the occasional video, and maybe to start learning photography would you recommend this camera or is there another you recommend? im looking for a camera that's not too expensive or heavy because I want to be able to carry it with me to family gatherings
I do my photography for fun. To the extent that I have used photos for business, it has been limited to Facebook and Instagram for my wife's boutique. I do most of my shots in aperture priority using a collection of Legacy lenses (about 30 of them and with some going as far back as the late '50's; from Canon FD and FL, to Super Takumar, Hexanon, Nikkor, Helios, Industar, etc.). I spent a lot of time and "effort" collecting those lenses (also fun), which I store in glass cabinets for display, and get a lot of fun out of using them (and showing them off). Sure, I get lazy sometimes, and default to the Galaxy S10+..which is a great pocket shooter and phone...frankly awesome for landscapes and now with an update, night shots. But when it comes to portraits...I really like using those old Legacies on a stabilized body. I have been using the Olympus OM EM10 Mark I for years now, and have gotten used to its functions and menu. Thinking about an upgrade at some point, and will probably stay with Olympus for this reason: Price-performance for my use case and familiarity. Else, jump ship to the G85. With legacy, I do not need the latest and greatest camera body on the market...so the previous generation's price is fine for me. What I really want is decent in-body stabilization. 4K?...will do that with my smartphone.
Hello matt, I’m an owner of an Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mark III & I’m not exactly sure which lens I should be looking for to do portrait style/fashion styled photography. I also seek to have full body shots with the lens you recommend to me. So if you could get back to me with some recommended options I’d truly appreciate it.
Thank you for this short review, very nice travel photography included for free. I shoot with a pair of "one inch" sensors coupled to Zeiss lenses: Sony RX100M2 and RX10. Both are great for travel. On my last trip, I hold a E-M10-MkII with 12-40 f/2.8 in my hands. That camera is just beautiful, but I can't see myself limited to such a small focal range, neither would carry a couple of lenses in my bag, so I'm going to keep my superzoom for a while. Have a good new year. Greetings from Brazil!
I have the EM10 first generation. Is there enough improvement in the Mark III, with pictures taken under the same conditions, to justify buying it?
I love those Olympus cameras. Criminally underrated.
Thanks! This is Fieldtested right?? You are doing great reviews. Still, like most, I am again missing some infos about DR. I realize that it may not be important to every one but for me its right up their with IQ, Focus etc. (or even above). Doing some landscape and on slow winter days I like to push the files in post....
Also I would still be interested if the extra you pay for the M1 or M5 is worth it ;) (Considering this a second walk around camera; not Main camera).
Hi, I'm a beginner and will getting my first mirrorless camera..entry level of course. Should I be getting Olympus OM-D M10 Mark III or Fujifilm XT100 ? I'm torn between these two. Thank you.
I bought this recently, at a bargain price, secondhand and in excellent condition. I have to say, I think I’m enjoying it more than other pricier models I own (I may as well sell those now). The mechanical shutter is quiet which is good as you can’t use electronic shutter in manual mode. The viewfinder is great for such a small camera. I’ve got the Olympus 17mm f1.8 almost permanently attached to it. But it suits other good primes like the 12mm f2 and the 45mm f1.8. I guess there’s additional grips that can be bought for the comfort of larger lenses too. I believe they released a ‘mkiii s’ version which allows use of the electronic shutter in manual modes. It’s a shame they didn’t do it as a firmware update for this camera. But still a solid camera and a bargain if found secondhand these days
me too. got one 2nd hand a few weeks ago. no complaints so far. some of the art filters are a bit weird though (watercolour). Not sure I'll use that much but ive already got some cracking pictures.
"you can see the kind of environment I'm in here..."
You literally can't. The DOF is so shallow that viewers have no idea where you're standing.
Nice review, lovely camera but.... The Amazing part is "The Lion King" at the end 😂😂😂😂😂 Happy new year Matt, from a Fuji shooter in Italy 😊
I own this camera and your wrap up comments match my observations/results as well. Auto focus needs a bit of an upgrade but other wise I've had some good results.
Hello my friend. Your video is so good and detailed, I really like it. I want to ask you, i need a camera which i want to take slow motion videos,maybe can be used at nights as well, stabilization,4k. Can you suggest me a budget camera? Im looking at Olympus M10 Mark III 14-42 mm + 40-150 mm IR Kit, do you suggest me this? Or any other cameras? Thanks. 👍
Taking aside all the bell whistles is the image quality really a big difference between em1-2?
Thanks mate, I think not grabbing the 12-40 f2.8 Pro is a mistake, as it is a superb lens. Excellent stuff, this little buddy is so small and light I end up taking it everywhere. Cheers matt.
Why is Panasonic and Leica left out in this video? the Leica 42.5mm is the best 85mm eq you can buy! Also to mention there are also very interesting entry-level DSLM from Panasonic like the older GX8 and it has 21.5MP.
just got deal for 630€ mark iii S with 14-40 kit and also 45mm 1.8 prime + 2 spare batteries. What a deal for a first camera! Cant wait!
I think this camera is a direct competitor to the Panasonic GX80 or 85. I've been thinking about getting the GX80 or this EM10 mk3, but I can't make up my mind...
Can you shoot with one of these out of the box or will you need one of the aformented lenses? (I can't find them anywhere)
Recently been infatuated with the Mark II, kind of want to get one, is the addition of 4k video worth the extra 100 bill or so?
One thing, not sure if its TH-cam or what, but the 4k vids seem, oddly off, like there's a missing frame or something? I'm wondering if that's due to the 30fps vs 24fps youtube usually streams at? or is that a problem of the Image Stabilization?
I'm torn because I don't have a camera, and I just want a good all around camera -- there seems to be a huge gap between quality point and shoots (as the phone market has really bitten into that) and entry level compact large sensor cameras. for now I've basically narrowed it down to the Olympus M10 Mark II or Mark III, or a Nikon D3400 (as a certified refurb, its really hard to beat it for the price).
Matt, for travel (light) I find Oly 9-18/4.0-5.6 lens to be really very nice on my 16 MP OMD EM1 camera. Small, light, not visible in the crowd...
Should I go for this or the sony a6000? Thanks in advance
No one mentions the lack of Bluetooth. Why you say? Because GPS is not here anymore and with bluetooth you can finally geotag photos live as you take them without all the fuss. For me it's the biggest deal breaker as I search for photos by location A LOT!
I want to buy my first camera
I dont know what camera im going to buy
Canon m50 or olympus m10 iii?
What is the best for vlog TH-cam?
which camera did you end up buying?
Matt, I've got the 45mm f1.8 and it is the sharpest lens I've ever owned - I had the 45mm f1.2 on loan from Oly for a couple of weeks and it was marginally sharper at f1.8 than that beast - maybe you have a duff one?
I was going to comment on this as well, it’s a stunning lens.
Maybe. Or maybe I’ve just shot with a LOT of lenses to have a different scale of reference.
woahhh, rather a pompous and patronising reply! I've only been professional for 33 years, and shot in huge studios and at the BBC for a decade, as well as many years freelance....so maybe I haven't had experienced many lenses (!) - I'm not a fan of sharp, it's very overrated and can't make a crappy photo any better.
Sorry, that was rude. I had just replied to a string of nasty comments. I shouldn’t have written like that. I aplogise.
Matt Granger - no probs. I don't know how I'd cope with the youtube crowd at all (the professional trolls I mean).
Apology accepted. 😁
Very nice camera! And lol I love your t shirt 😂
Love the Camera and the MFT System. Started with the Panasonic G1 besides Nikon D200 and Canon 50D.
Got a question. Shot a 10 minute video 4k 30p. 2 files 5 minutes each. Why not one single file? Card is a Toshiba Exceria Pro 128 Gb SDXC uhs I c10 U3. Is it normal?
Please can you review the Panasonic G9, great vid thanks
In your comparisons you should have also mentioned the lower end models from Panasonic. The G7 is cheaper but is older and bigger but easier to hold it should have slightly better AF still with the DFD system. It is lacking stabilisation but given most Panasonic lenses are stabilised that is not as much of an issue. Then there is the GX85 which is maybe slightly cheaper still and a bit older but is more similar in shape and has both ibis and in lens too which can work together. Then there is the G85 which is a G7 with IBIS which is a bit more expensive. They are all 16mpx too and to me produce a slightly nicer image. They also can use all of those lenses you used too as they have the same lens mount. That said I would still not mind one with that pancake zoom you are using for a good pocket camera that should take better images than the advanced compacts as it has a much larger sensor.
I also wanted to make a comment on the IBIS I would hope you could have taken photos of more than 1 second handheld with that camera especially if you had been using the 12-100 F4 which is the ideal companion to a camera like that for the average traveller.
I think whats holding them back is the lens prices. The tamron 15-30 is currently (on amazon.de) 880 while the oly 7-14 is 1180. The APS-C Sigma is about 380 (f3.5 tho). A lot of the m43 third party lenses seem to be designed for APS-C with a m43 mount. I hope that olympus lens pricing will change because i really like their cameras.
Christian Sagmüller Agreed. Even their classic 25mm( that means 50) 1.4 Pana Leica Summilux is around 600 dollars, vs the others nifty fifty
The 7-14mm is expensive but for me it's better than the tamron 15-30mm IQ wise and a lot more portable. The quality been higher I'm not surprise the price is higher too. I've not had a better utrawide than that 7-14mm and I tried many in canon, sigma, pentax etc. The pentax 15-30mm was more expensive new than the olympus 7-14mm here, not cheaper. I didn't keep the 15-30mm for various reasons one been wide open and 15mm the focus wasn't perfectly centered.
Panasonic have good lenses, many that are smaller, and often cheaper (14 an 20 for example). Ultra wide has been an issue though, The Laowa 7.5 is the obvious choice now.
@photo4max where you get that they are much sharper ? I have many FF glass and m43 and what you are saying isn't true at all. In the example of adrian the comparison is bad since most ff 50mm need to be stopped down to get close to the sharpnessf and iq of the panasonic 25mm f1.4. The 25mm f1.7 would compare to other nifty fifty and is super cheap.
curious about the video quality. use it for next seafood episode, will be good sample...
Could you maybe do a short "what's in by bag" video on clothing and such for photography trips in challenging conditions? Don't need to be very specific as far as brands and models go, but would be nice to get some insight into what to bring along besides camera gear on a trip to Nepal, Peru, Iceland and other such places with diverse weather conditions, in order to keep oneself focused on photography rather than the weather. Just an idea that occurred to me, seeing how I've been looking for a new shell jacket and immediately spotted your Arc'teryx.
Have done in past
Great video. What strap are you using?
Nice Video!
I think you could improve the quality a bit more by reducing the reverb on the in the studio spoken part (a bit of foam or a carpet etc could already be enough). "Dry" sound on spoken parts would make it more professional. Here on TH-cam Sound is always more important than Pictures.
Nice review. The thicker grip on the E-M10 III is a nice feature as well. I'm still rocking an E-P5 for my Olympus gear but liked the E-M10 III when I tried it. Just wish Olympus would put their duel hybrid autofocus in another camera other than the E-M1 series. Oly fans really take a back seat even when it comes to single point autofocus with moving subjects. Here's hoping for it in the E-M5 III...
Also, for anyone that's interested in the 7-14mm. I totally recommend the 8mm 1.8 fisheye pro if you have the scratch. I can say it is sharper than the 7-14mm Panasonic after being defished with Fisheye Hemi. It's also sharper than the 9-18mm (I had that one twice) does better with back lit subjects by far and very nice sunstars. Even cropped it beats the 7-14mm panasonic and from what I can tell, the Olympus as well. Crazy short focusing distance as well! The samyang isn't bad either (had that one)..only main difference I could tell was not as nice sunstars, but really good outside of that. The fisheye pro and any Olympus body is an awesome set up!!!
How is the autofocus and the stabilizer while "action" video? Do you have experience with the Sony alpha a6000? I am considering to get either of them. Thank you!
Matt Granger how would you say the image quality compares to a full frame camera?
4k is 8.3 mp, you know, i had to be that guy that said it
And I'm the guy that checked if it was made clear in the comments :)
And I’m the guy looking for a camera
And I'm the guy that wants to shoot a movie on film, but cannot afford that. However, I can shoot it on this camera and give it film grain in post production.
& i am the guy who read these comments but have no idea what the hell they 're talking about.
I’m that guy that says you’re wrong. It’s actually 8.2944mp 😹
have you ever noticed any overheating issue from that new mirrorless? coz its one of the main issue over the olympus mirrorless camera just like the mark 2 and other model.
Get the optional handgrip. I've got it for the 10mkii and it would be unusable for me without it (especially with the 12-100 on it!).
I'd like to see the M5 Mark III ... any news on it?
My E-M10II, purchased used in May, 2018 for $330, came with the Olympus Camera Grip ECG-3. This clicks on precisely, comes off easily for access to the battery and card, and expands the hand grip (right-handed; not sure what lefties do) to a perfect size for carrying in one hand. I've carried it in comfort for a good hour at least. I use a light wrist strap for safety in case of an accidental drop. The Grip barely adds anything to the bulk of the camera, so you still feel like it is tiny.
Just to clarify, I meant that I've carried it in comfort for an hour at least without much resting or flexing my hand/arm due to discomfort.
I had the OM-E10 Mark for almost 2 years. The most compact system I ever used, even the old IBIS was great but the downside was the 16MP and it low-light-performance. I mostly shot my kid and she is moving all the time so you have to crop often and the ISO is high for times under 1/125s
Nice review Matt.
You mention that the Contrast Detect AF isn't great for fast moving subject.
Can you expand on what you mean by fast moving?
For instance, would it cope happily with a car coming towards it at 30mph (only one plane of movement) whereas it would struggle with a footballer moving in an unpredictable manner.
Or are we really only worried about BIF or F1 car speeds?
My experience with the 10mkii is that it can't focus on ANYTHING that's moving. I love the camera and it focuses fine on non-moving subjects, but if it's moving at all, you're out of luck (unless you're really good at manually focusing and get one of their lenses that's not focus-by-wire).
Thanks Joe. I wonder if the mkiii is any better.
I like the idea of a small M4/3 camera but need it to capture moving subjects.
It's not from what I've read. You might want to wait to see if they put their phase detect AF into the em5iii that's likely coming out in the next few months or I'd look at Sony's offerings (like the a6300), though I think Oly/Pana have a better selection of compact, affordable lenses.
I have an Em d mark iii. Can you tell me how to enable silent mode? You can do with "silent AP". But is there another way?
hey matt, id like to see a comparison between a Pro Mirrorless, and the equivalent priced DSLR. Lets say an XT2 vs a Nikon Equivalent $$ or Canon? Nice video :)
First M43 and first Camera, should I pick Panasonic or Olympus eco system for both video and photo?
I'd look at Panasonic if you were doing quite a bit of video. I chose Olympus because I only do photography.
Great to see you away from the desk!!!
Haha have you been watching this year? I’ve been on the road half of it
I disagree. The GX85 can be brought with a lot lens, as well as an added zoom for around $600. And 4K video is better and has ibis, and can be charged via USB. It's the best for the money.
I'm surprised you find the 7-14mm f2.8 less sharp or IQ than the 15-30mm tamrom, I've had a lot of ultra wide in my life and the 7-14mm is the best so far IQ wise and the F2.8 is so handy.
I have the Mk II version of this camera (also has the touch screen). It's a secondary to my Canon full frame kit. I bought it to keep on me all the time, and it is a ton of fun to shoot with. I find myself grabbing the Olympus for personal projects more often than I grab my Canon kit.
Same here but I shoot Nikon for my second camera.
Love the crazy ending
I would also like to see a review of the Panasonic G9 when it comes out.
1:32 - 1:39 the footage looks very skippy when the camera was panning or in motion. What would be the cause of that?
Good job Matt.
as always thanks for the vid I did notice at the end that the Olympus had no "table" stabilization ;)
nice video.... would u recomend this insread of GH4??? TKS
Hi, Could you please do a comparison between this and the Panasonic GX9 at some point?
Thanks for the review. Nepal sounds like serious fun, with any camera. Be careful.
I have an Olympus OM-D E-M10 (mark nothing); 12-42mm EZ kit lens (mediocre, but small); $160 (US) used from eBay; a few cheap f/1.7 prime lenses (15, 20 and 25mm), and a 12-40mm f/2.8 PRO lens (spectacular, but big).
I have to say I was quite disappointed with the specs on the Mark III. I was expecting 20MP minimum (my Canon G7x is 20MP in a smaller sensor) and NOT expecting the re-engineered, dumbed-down menu system. It's disappointing to see that the silent shutter is only available in AP mode. Olympus didn't ask me.
Maybe an E-M5 when it goes to 20MP. Maybe that's Olympus' plan...
Looks like a very nice entry level camera and a good segue into the Olympus System. As for the megapixel concerns, 16 is plenty. "More" and "bigger" is mostly just advertising hype. I'm still using the OM-D E-M1 and I get great images for online use as well as truly beautiful prints from its 16 MP sensor. I recently mounted a new one which is about three feet long and it looks amazing!
My 5MP Canon G2 photos from 2001 still look amazing.
good review, correct me if I;m wrong but when we talk about how many pixels there are, isn't a micro 4/3 16 Mega pixels the same pixel density as a aps-c 24 megapixel camera? or darn close to the same?
great review, beautiful photos.
This, or the Gx85?
Interesting to see impressions on this kit.Liked that., but found the fast cuts between portraits and animals to be very jarring to look at
I did get a Olympus OMD-EM10 when it had been on the market a year or so, it still work for me as a mature and I like the small grip due to my small hands, but if I had been a bit richer I would love to upgrade to m3, but at 05:43 in this video do I see a lens flare with a huge amount of purple in it that I think look horrible, was that from the lens or the post processing?
Flare and purple fringing is more of a lens issue, not the body.
The mark III made an interesting choice to disable some of the options. The one I'm most upset about are the options surrounding bracketing. Bracketing is only available in their "AP" mode (which is unfortunately, limited). Now you can no longer set a shutter delay timer in conjunction with exposure bracketing. That's a big deal if you like to shoot landscapes. You could certainly use a remote shutter, or your phone as a shutter, but the convenience is gone. Surprising move for a camera at this price point. ):
I love my EM10Mii and EM10MiiiS, however not happy that the iiiS has some resolution options disables that are available on my Mii model. Still love both cameras tho.
Love that you tested in nepal... From nepal here :
Absolutely love the last few seconds of this video !
How would this camera compares to the Fuji XT1 Matt?
Man! could you do a budgetography review of the canon 5d classic? Field tested please ;)
or how about a comparison between the latest entry level bodies of nikon, canon, sony, ....?
Between Olympus omd e10||| and Sony a6000 which one is the best?
Thank you in advance.❤️
He gave the answer in the video.
When I heard you say.. 45mm f1.8 it's not that sharp... you lost ALL credibility.
Hey, nice review, I should buy a camera that I would mainly use for video (travel and maybe some short films, so I'd like it to have a good performance with low light and versatility in post for doing color grading) I wouldn't mind if it also produced some good images to photograph family events and the like, I did some research on my own and I restricted myself to this Olympus and to the Canon eos 250d they are both cameras that more or less with the respective kit lenses fall within my budget I wish they were already decently usable out of the box without any more major purchases, I would buy more lenses just after a while, I know that Olympus produces a good image and has an incredible stabilization but it seems that it’s uncertain in low light , instead the Canon has the fantastic dual pixel autofocus but it has an unusable 4K mode given the crop and don’t know if the stabilization of his lenses can match that of Olympus, what do you recommend?
I would love to see you review the new upcoming Panasonic GH5s, maybe they can send you a sample on 2018.
Pabula going to be a bit hard when the GH5s at this time is just rumour and speculation Panasonic have announced nothing
You forgot to mention that the Panasonic G85 is a great option as well.
I have the g85. One of my favorite cameras ever. This is just much smaller which is nice. An easy to use fun camera.
I'd like a review on canon slr film camera with auto focus :-) like Canon A2E or maybe the last professional film camera by all manufacture