How CSA scores are calculated | Introduction
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- This is the first in our series of videos where we'll discuss the FMCSA's Safety Measurement System and how the agency issues carriers' CSA scores. In this introduction, we address the purpose of SMS and how it fits into the FMCSA's enforcement program. We then take a high-level look at the scoring methodology. Stay tuned for additional videos in this series where we'll address each BASIC in turn.
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Trucksafe Consulting, LLC is a full-service transportation safety consulting firm, offering one-on-one consulting services as well as industry-leading training resources and compliance forms. Brandon Wiseman and Jerad Childress, Trucksafe's owners, are transportation attorneys who, prior to starting Trucksafe, worked with the nation's largest transportation law firm, counseling the nation's largest and most sophisticated motor carriers on USDOT safety regulations. They now focus their efforts on helping carriers develop and foster state-of-the-art safety programs. For help managing your DOT policies and procedures, mock DOT audits, safety rating upgrades, DataQs appeals, and much more, contact us through our website: www.trucksafeconsulting.com - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Finally a informative channel
Very good content in explaining a fairly complex system. Score this as an A+ on quality of content..
Great video man. Love the way you explain this complicated DOT stuff.
No worries. Thanks for watching!
Great information!
Thank you for the detailed info!
Happy to do it! Let us know if there are any other regulatory topics you’d like to see addressed!
Great material!
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So just got 3 warnings
1 brake light out
1 turn signal out
1 lane restriction violation
I'm figuring that adds up to 45 csa points and exactly how bad is that? Cause it doesn't sound great. Just wondering if I'm going to be looking for a different career on Monday when my company sees it... 6 years with multiple clean inspections and 0 accidents.
Hey I got a violation 393.55 abs light on. I’m a company driver does that go on my record also? If so would you recommend I go to court and tell them I had it fixed to possibly have it removed from my record?
Can you explain the time weight for dummies I have absolutely no clue I have violations that say 3 I mean is it dropping to 2 after 6mo then 0 after 24?
Quick question so I checked mined and it says it has 24 points of unsafe road side performance is that bad ? How can I fix this
How many point is 396.17c not having a new inspection sticker and expired inspection papers for my trailer. How bad is it ?
Great video I completely understand now I’m at 25 percent so I’m doing 25 percent worst then my competition in which it’s my owner op that got my score this high how do I let fmcsa know that they can no longer run under my authority
There’s no great way to do this. If you’ve terminated him and he’s still trying to operate under your USDOT number and incurring violations, you’ll have to challenge those through the DataQs system and provide evidence of the termination.
@@Trucksafe ok thx
So do you only get a violation if you get pulled over and they see it? I violated my 30 minute because my tablet said I was good to go and then gave me a violation as soon as I moved.
Correct. Only violations that are written up by an officer during a roadside inspection or a DOT audit filter into the system.
I got a violation 3 days ago 393.9 and 393.45 this is a first DOT inspection I never had before and my CSA score is 30 ..
So this score is a big problem or not ?
how can I take it out of my records if I wanna work with another company and they see my score ?
The only way to get violations taken off is either organically over time (they call off on their own after 24 months) or by filing a DataQs appeal if you have a good basis to dispute the violations.
Can I challenge a ELD not being sent to the dot officer when in offline mode but he didn’t want me to connect the phone where the keep trucking app is on to the hotspot for it to be online mode to be sent.. he gave me a violation for ELD not being able to send in offline mode
No harm in trying. DataQ is the place to try.
I am a company driver. How can I know my CSA score and if there is anyway to clean that record?. Great channel!
Drivers don’t have CSA scores per se. But you can check your CSA violations through the FMCSA’s PSP program here: www.psp.fmcsa.dot.gov/psp/applicant/1
@@Trucksafe thanks!
My driver got 91% and we got suspended from the company we work with. I been trying to see how can I bring those percentiles down but its really complicated and hard to understand. What can I do?
Really the only way to bring driver scores down is for them to have clean inspections or to challenge erroneous violations through the DataQs system. Check out our most recent video on the PSP program for details.
DOT gave our driver 3 OOS 2 395.8(e)(1) and one 395.8(a) how does this weigh ? All three were out of service.
395.8(e) violations have a severity weight of 7, plus an additional 2 for OOS. So 9 points for each of those. 395.8(a) has a severity weight of 5 plus 2 for OOS, so a total of 7. 9+9+7=a total severity weight of 25. Multiply that by a time weight of 3 and you get a total of 75 points for this one inspection.
@@Trucksafe how do I calculate my percentage ? I’ve had 3 inspections prior with no violations. The TiW is 6 currently. Is it 75/6? Will this meet the threshold for the HOS category? Thank you for helping me understand more about CSA
You can’t really calculate your percentage on your own because it depends on the performance of your peers. But you can look up your percentile score on your SMS account.
I got violations three of them says
Section 393.95a
Section 393.9a
Section 393.9a
Vehicle is in good shape but he wanted to give some violations on my company such a jackass officer , he couldn’t find Major issue but he wanted to give some violation.
Can you explain is this a major issue to csa record
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I got a written warning 393.11 said turn signal not amber, My only inspection ever how bad is it.
Only 3 points (out of 10) on the severity weight scale, so not too bad
I lease a budget truck for the first time for my business and got a out of service for the first time due to brake lights not working and abs light on the dash. Is not my truck and it happen while driving. What will be my percentage for first time fail Inspection??
If it’s your only violation, you probably won’t have a CSA score yet. Typically it takes at least 5 inspections with violations before you get a score. That said, this will impact your out of service percentage which is another metric that FMCSA, shippers, brokers, and insurers consider.
@@Trucksafe due to your expertise and me being new What percentage you think ill fall in?. Would it be 65 percent or more?. Im new here and some od the things I learn was watching your videos
Your out of service rate is simply a calculation of how many of your roadside inspections have resulted in your driver or vehicle being placed out of service. So if this is your one and only inspection, your out of service rate would be 100%. So it depends on how many inspections you’ve had.
@@Trucksafe my last and only question. Hopefully you can answer. Im currently doing Amazon relay at the moment. Will they suspend my account knowing that they check your csa score on what we talk about or will it take more then that for them to suspend me?
I’m not familiar with their KPIs and metrics, so cant comment on that.
So I got violations 395.8(a)1
395.8
395.8(f)(1) how many points is that ?
The 395.8(a)(1) is 5 points, 395.8 is 1 point, and 395.8(f)(1) is 5 points. Those get multiple by a time weight depending on how recently they occurred.
@@Trucksafe I just got the violations 3 days ago
Ok. They won’t show up in the system until next month
How long does it take for the violations to disappear from an account?
Violations decline in weight over time and disappear completely after 24 months.
Insurance company won't insure me because of a mailing address I used previously but never live at but is showing on my cab score. Trying to get PA insurance and they think I live in NJ because of this but I don't. How do I fix this?
What address do you have on file with FMCSA?
@@Trucksafe I had my address in PA as my address and NJ as mailing address. However i changed it on fmcsa over the weekend so both are pa address and I'm still getting rejected
Nothing you can really do then except get the message through to the insurers. Are you using a broker?
@@Trucksafe I am, don't know what to do if I can't get insurance I'm screwed. I'll go out of buisiness and lose everything
Sounds like your broker isn’t advocating strongly enough for you. May need to switch it up.
& will it be hard to get a job with log book violations ? I didn’t have to pay anything & didn’t get taken to court
Just depends on how much weight prospective carriers put on prior violations
Those are my only violations
If you have a good basis to challenge them, you could file a DataQ appeal to try and get them removed from your profile
Are there fines for dot violations ?
There certainly can be if the agency chooses to bring an enforcement case against a carrier. This most often occurs when patterns of violations are discovered in audits. The penalty amounts vary depending on severity, prior violations, etc.
Will a violation affect the insurance with a company I want to work for ?
One cumulative effect of roadside inspection violations could be increased insurance premiums.
Even if I didn’t get fined for the violations ? I already work for the company. I got the violations over a month ago & I just got hired & working another company now. They didn’t say anything about it. Will they eventually mention anything ?
It would only impact your current carrier if you got the violation while operating under its USDOT #.
@@Trucksafe ok good. So my insurance won’t be high if I go to another company ?
Is my driver license good
How many points is 392.82A warning
It’s a 10-pointer
What is the difference between the DOT and the FMCSA?
FMCSA is a sub-agency of the DOT, along with others like the FAA, NHTSA, PHMSA, FRA, and FTA.
@@Trucksafe how is Pete Buttigieg, a federal employee the secretary of the federal dot if all the DOT cops under him work for the state? Is the "tennesee dot" or "california dot" state or federal?
I just got a violation 395.8 (e) (1)
How would they know if you are operating a vehicle out of service ? what if you had to drive vehicle?
Get fix and it took you two days to get home And fix it
Once the vehicle is placed out of service, it can’t move until the problem is fixed. This means either getting it towed or having a mobile repair unit come out. OOS violations are uploaded to a national database, so if you get pulled over again after an OOS violation, the officer would have access to that fact.
So it doesn’t really affect the driver as much just the carrier???
Depends on the violation, but it could impact both. The carrier’s SMS account and the driver’s PSP record.
@@Trucksafe it was 396.17 c
For now, that violation will land on the carrier and driver. But the agency has proposed revisions to SMS that could eventually only place that on the carrier. But those changes won’t go live for a while.
Ok lol one more question I just got a new job that I haven’t started yet I start it in two weeks I receive this violation while waiting on my two weeks with my old company. Should I tell my new company about it even though it’s technically not a ticket???
Noce
IDOT - IOWA are tuff as cobbs.
🤔 A couple days ago I got an inspection "warning" for having my cell phone in my right hand while driving my box truck. ×I have a chauffeur's license no CDL license needed to drive the box truck.. After doing my research and watching videos like this here I thought the cop was giving me a break, but now I'm realizing it was basically reaming me! 🤯
I'm an idiot that's said "thank you officer I appreciate" not realizing he was probably laughing inside!😡
Wha
393.9 is that a serious violation?
Depends on the type of light. If it’s a clearance light, it’s a 2 point (out of 10) violation. Head or tail light is a 6 pointer.
@@Trucksafe reverse light improbable
6 points
@@Trucksafe 🤦♂️
I got 6 points for missing a hood latch
Get to the POINT