Still hundreds of accounts in the house south of the Darkmeyer altar. They thieve for Blood Shards and there are literally hundreds with over 110+ thieving. This bot farm has been around for over a year, please do something SirPugger
@@TheMegatuz they’re a right click then click again thieve and they always hop when you cross a specific tile entering the building. It’s 100% a bot farm. Minimum stats for SotF as well
You were the Chosen One. It was said you would destroy the scammers, not join them. Bring balance to the internet, not leave it in the darkness of ads supporting NFTs.
It is always surprising when someone takes an NFT sponsor or pivot. Like historically since NFTs have come out a majority of people have been against them for a multitude of reasons. I get you need that money but I figured RAID would have paid again
like historically since *insert technology* came out a majority of people have been against them for a multitude of reason. (note the lack of people or reasons mentioned).
People mostly hate NFTs because they heard that they destroy the environment and then just repeat that argument Most of that argument goes out the door when crypto goes from proof of work to proof of stake. And at least he promoted an actual legit project instead of a scam project that has no intention to actually grow. The actual worst part about crypto is how unregulated it is and how scammers flourish in the space. Luckily I was scammed early on in life because I played OSRS and recognize a scam when I see one
To clarify my negative review: I spent about 400hours over the month, and in most of that time I felt like I was part of a big new thing, and actually making money - I got lucky with the deadmau5 collections, and lost a lot on snoops stuff when he pulled out temporarily. Things really changed when I noticed that a large number of the legendary catalysts I was holding was rotating between the same 5 owners with the price rising and rising - and the owners were recognisable: they all moderate the Sandbox discord server. I am not going to start a witch-hunt on these guys, but know that this project suffers the same price-fixing issue that I was worried about from other games like Blankos Block Party. It is directly designed to get your money first from the LAND/SAND selling. They do not care about what happens afterwards, and want to go towards decentralised voting based off of the amount of SAND you own. Its a joke, and I hope you stay away from this in the future SirPugger.
@@Hobbitcraft Is it really all about the NFTs though? Isn't that an extra thing? The main thing is that you can build games in there and play with each other?
@@Hobbitcraft Ooh so its actually p2p not f2p. More like f2join then pay2play like ALL the fkn mobile games now, oh you can download the game but to even look at its content you have to subscribe for $20 a month or some sht?
you have a gained sense of trust from this community because of the exact content you make. this is so predatory to push nfts. hope the bag is worth it
@@Jammerocker the only way to "understand" them is to make the NFT yourself or to buy early and get lucky, there's nothing to understand, it's a pump and dump scheme
Oh he will tell you all about his "research" which was probably just sifting through the marketing material on their website and the points they gave him to read about.
Great video as always, but I wanted to make a comment here to voice the same concern that a few others have had. Please be more selective with your sponsorship deals. The people wanting to push NFTs, even in games have been repeatedly identified as bad actors. It should also be said that Gabe Newel banned NFT games from Steam for the same reason.
That's because all of the profit osrs brings the Chinese jagex management put it all back into rs3. Unfortunately we pay for jagex to instead improve rs3
I started doing impling catching at pura pura and have noticed that whenever a dragon or lucky impling appears, nearly straight away, a bot (guessing) teleports in, real close to it, usually catches it unless you are close and fast, then they teles or world hops out. Seen it happen a load of times.
Another reason to add to the long long list of why it's no longer worth playing OSRS because screw competing with bots. My time on this earth is limited, I wanna enjoy a game, not fight against bots and their knock-on effects.
@@_Will___ well i don't know the stats per se but all things point towards and element of deviousness behind them - much like any pyramid/ponzi scheme to my knowledge!
Hey man first time comment on your videos i believe but i wanted to say, i know a sponsor is a sponsor but not really happy about the play to pay NFT thing youre pushing here man
I've had a few experiences with guys in maxed gear asking me to buy them a stack of ge limit collection items (watermelons, coal, ect). Then they add you and try to pull you into an anti luring scheme. They even go as far to fill you in on a scheme and you get a whip or something. Then of course there comes a point where for whatever reason you have to be the bait. It's happened twice. Some kind of luring based on the long game over a couple of days. Might make an interesting video.
In regards to the bot at around 6 minutes: They likely have a list of npcs to train on, and a time allotted for one area to minimize ban risk. Fight monks for 45 minutes, task ends, fight black knights for 32 minutes, etc.
@@maskettaman1488 to be fair it's only a sponsorship, dumbass NFT bros would probably get wind of sandbox eventually, and every other viewer wouldn't even bother anyway.
@@maskettaman1488 what do nfts have anything to do with morals? literally everything digital that you own in about 5-10 years will be an nft so best get used to it.
I am sad that you have prompted a NFT add. As a content creator you should know how bad NFT would be if they became the normal. On the plus side nice video!
Great video as always, Pugger, but I'm afraid I'm going to have to leave a dislike and voice my disappointment on this one for the NFT scheme promo. These things are always universally scams and this is a really bad look for someone trying to grow their channel. Please reconsider taking these sponsorships in the future.
This is actually a really interesting and unique use of blockchain technology. Just because you don't understand what a blockchain is and how it could be used in this manner doesn't make it a scam lol
@@jacobringgaardmikkelsen5103 Hopefully, but if it is like Roblox it is a bad sponsor. Hopefully this Sandbox is good people and give more to the creators and the people then Roblox.
@@jacobringgaardmikkelsen5103 It's a scam. There's no reason for it to be using a blockchain other than pay shills to pump the value of their coin so that they can dump their holdings and disappear. It happens over and over because scumbags like SirPugger care about a dollar more than they do their audience.
I'm almost at 3k medium clue scrolls done so i'd really appreciate these bots getting busted both for overall rank and price of loot since im dry* on rangers. *2 total, so barely unlucky
I had a forgotten account that i recently wanted to play on for nostalgia. Tried logging in but couldnt and i thought to myself " oh i just probably forgot the password" i reset the password only to find the account at green dragons with membership. The account had 40 melee stats and now it has 90s and had around 5m in items on it. Thanks for the free xp botters lol.
The reason people don't like the sponsorship is quite rational. Just because the game is free to play doesn't change the fact that the core monetization is bad. It's a boring rpg with a place to look at nfts. Which are historically scams, artwork stolen from artists, or lazy re-skins of the same image, with the only value being speculative. The idea is to hope a bigger sucker comes and pays more than you did, with his hopes being the exact same. There is no inherent value. Not to mention how devastating to the environment they are. Also keep in mind that owning an nft doesn't even mean you own the image, you own a link to the image in an image hosting site. All of these reasons have pushed people away from nft projects. So, when a boring rpg with bad mechanics comes (I tried it out) and the only redeeming quality is that it has nfts, people don't like it. The only thing that I like about this, is that maybe less people will bot and rwt in osrs when these games exist.
"The idea is to hope a bigger sucker comes and pays more than you did" Have you heard of capitalism? You're calling people suckers, to imply a negative connotation on a buy/sell commodity market. It's not a mic drop statement. It's the same thing has been been going on and working for years. If you don't want a nft, don't buy it. Everything else you've said is highly opinionated and shows you don't have a clue about normal art, localized art, creative projects, creative Commons etc. And if you want to hop on the it's bad for the environment bandwagon make sure you're doing you're absolute best to decrease your carbon footprint print. Otherwise this entire post reeks of virtue signaling. And no I I don't have any interest in Sandbox or interest NFTs. I just dislike entitled comments.
@@LuvMehSi The difference between an nft and other forms of consumerism is, with a product or service I'm trading money for something of value (for example, I buy a rs sub to get entertainment from rs for a month), conversly with an nft the only value is what the other person will pay for it, there is no inherent value as the image can be easily duplicated for free with the exact same value. Its purely speculative, therefore totally pointless. This causes "investors" to be willfully ignorant and ignore blatant issues, since if people aren't buying the value drops to zero (which is non existent for a product with inherent value). Not to mention the speculative nature makes the soace rife with scams. Thats different than the investment in a company however, the money you put into the company will be used to grow the company, thereby increasing the value of the piece of the company you own (which cant be duplicated for the same value). regarding artists. nfts dont help artists. just look at how many independent artists have had their art stolen and made into nfts. just check the deviantart protect numbers for a small example. regarding the environment. You dont need to be an environmental saint to criticize especially egregious things. a single transaction with Ethereum has an equivalent carbon footprint of over 225 000 VISA transactions, or over 17 000 hours of watching youtube videos, which was after their "going green" initiative in may 2021. Most nfts use eth based tech, and are designed to be traded. So, I dont need to be 100% green to be able to say thats too much, and waay to harmful. Its not virtue signaling, its pointing out when a bad system is bad.
Gonna point out I'm not a fan of NFTs in their current form. On the topic of the environmnent, I get your concern. ETH is moving to a PoS system soon, though. PoS doesn't use any hardware to actually "mine" Ether, rather you put the it into a pool and get rewarded for holding it there (atleast that's how earning it should work as far as I know). The game I don't know much about, besides the SAND crypto blowing up a lot for quite a few months. That's about all I got, hopefully Pugger takes some time to consider the people giving feedback.
This game offers consumable NFT's. In that - it means you USE your NFT to progress in the game, or sell it for real money. It's literally no different then the steam market place to a consumer.
It's just money laundering, plain and simple. There might be some 🤡s that pay a bunch for some pixels, but with the rich it's just a way to clean money.
I don't normally comment, but an NFT supporting ad (or game supporting it) is enough to have me stop watching the video and potentially future videos. You'll thank yourself when you don't lose a large chunk of your viewers to supporting NFTs
SPEAKING OF NFTs. IM MAD. NOW I THINK ABOUT IT, I LOVE BOTTERS. True entrepreneurs, they made a living off of the fake economy from a game we used to play as children. I absolutely love botters, it's inspirational, they make so much money out of absolutely nothing, THIN AIR. That's hustle, real hustle right damn their boy. Also, these botters been in the NFT game since before the term NFTs was coined, ain't that some damn entrepreneurship for ya ass now huh. If you're hating, you're a nerd, and not the nerd the teachers said the other kids would be working for. LOSERS
It's not an NFT. He's an idiot for using the term NFT. The Sandbox uses real world trading for game assets, meaning people make assets and you buy them in. That isn't a non-fungible token.
Flumpin Addicted to this game again. I played so long yesterday there was a prompt on screen " you've been playing for too long, you should take a break from your screen ". I'm OK jagex. The grind won't grind itself.
@@zzzkk0 maybe because they insecure, volatile, and the owners of them directly financially benefit from getting others to buy into them. Y'know that almost sounds like a pyramid scheme. No one actually wants the ugly monkey, it's just a gambling game of hot potato to see if you can sell at a profit to a bigger idiot.
Games don't need to use NFTs to convey ownership of items. The computational requirements for that are terrible for the environment, just for an item in a game. Shit ain't worth it. Sorry for contributing to the pile-on over this sponsorship, but we're trying to help. These types of markets are bad news, dog!
Cry more. You know nothing about the game, neither do I mind you, but it's just a free to play game with NFT's in it. Why be a complete child over something like that? You don't care for SirPugger if you think him advertising for a free game like Sandbox is awful, but advertising for a game like Raid Shadow Legends is okay, when Raid is almost undoubtedly a more predatory game. Those Free to play phone games are all extremely predatory, and the only reason you're crying about that Sandbox game is because it's associated with NFTs. But at the end of the day you don't understand anything about any of what's going on, you just know you were told to be scared of NFTs. You and all these other cry babies need to chill.
It's free to play! I understand most crypto things are scams, but I heavily researched The Sandbox before promoting it. Come to your own conclusions of course, but feel free to leave any evidence of a scam here, I'd love to see it!
@@SirPugger you wouldn't be nor are playing this game yourself, which should be one of your first priorities when picking a sponsor. The promise of making money is where the scam lies.
The monastery was a great place to train my str pure like 15 years ago. I would play it on a second screen and if I was low on health you just ask a monk to heal you.
I like too think these guys that bot are subbed n notifications on so they can see how too avoid you. Your channel is always a joy to watch n keep up the hard work. We all appreciate it! Well at least I do! Imagine osrs with only players n no bots just alts.
The new PJ timer ruined killing the green dragon bots. I used to kill them for fun for years. As soon as you show up on their screen they have almost 10 seconds to calmly walk south and telly as long as they didn't kill the dragon they were fighting. You can still get a few kills but it is much harder. They don't die as much and you can tell by the gear you get. They've upgraded some to glories and combat bracelets when before they only carried str amulets and dueling rings. Shows how much less the creators are afraid of them dying.
Cool video as always. Bad choice of a Sponsor. Defending a crypto game is not gonna make your audience like NFT more. It's not you, but people in the gaming sphere are heavily against it and Steam just banned NFT's in games for obvious reasons. It's cool if you believe it's a legit game and you like playing it, but you're dismissing your audience point of view on the subject as a whole I think... Anyways you get my like for the awesome content as always ;)
Bullshit'll run a marathon. The way I see it, crypto and NFTs is gambling like some damn baccarat or blackjack. Most people don't even understand what their investing in so you might as well say, "hit me," and wish for the best.
I found some random bot farm today also in GE. They were asking if anybody have rune set (to give for free of course), and they would trade and accept only that item. They kept spamming that and had no reaction to any messages, so 100% sure it is a bot
There’s no way the sponsor named their cryptocurrency “SAND” so that when it inevitably becomes worthless people can say it has about the same value. 💀 Seriously, I hope you consider avoiding sponsors like this in the future. Even if you put aside the questionable morals, bad actors, exit scams, and corporate-worldview-of-creativity associated with NFTs, there are still issues. There have been other “free to play” currency-linked game concepts, and almost all of them rely on people who whale, or making the grind so insane that you eventually feel compelled to spend real money. That only just scratches the surface. I think you deserve to know how potentially harmful this type of scheme is, and highly recommend watching People Make Games’ documentary videos on Ubisoft’s NFTs and a so-called “Cash-based MMO”.
It's free to play! I understand most crypto things are scams, but I heavily researched The Sandbox before promoting it. Come to your own conclusions of course, but feel free to leave any evidence of a scam here, I'd love to see it!
@SirPugger Explaining the toxicity of the NFT and crypto space as a whole is simply not feasible in a youtube comment. I can only recommend doing your research into NFTs yourself, if you've somehow been living under a rock. I personally recommend Folding Ideas's video "Line Goes up - The Problem With NFTs". This is not a trivial ask, but nor is this a trivial issue. You're going to get a lot of shit for this ad, so you at least owe it to yourself to understand why. NFTs are inherently problematic, and therefor any and all uses of them are problematic by association. It is entirely impossible to have a "good" NFT product, when to have an NFT product at all is to support the entire system. This game may not be intending, on its own merits, to scam people, but it's participating in an ecosystem that is inherently predatory.
To be fair, you play RuneScape, which most of the people who play are bitcoin bro bro blue lives matter Trump supporters millennials who act like their boomer parents so I think advertisements for crypto targets a majority of the community
You know what they say, pump while telling everyone you're stupid and don't understand crypto, and then disappear when the scam inevitably shits itself
@@maskettaman1488 Agreed, his meta is "exposing bots". But I'm sure he has financial interests in cheaper items before he tells his volunteer army to do the legwork of hunting them down and report them in high enough numbers to affect market prices. Thats his whole thing, we need to make these items more expensive in game. Could you imagine busting a salmon fishing bot, I wouldn't wish salmon fishing for gp on anyone.
I know this is going to sound controversial but... While the loot keys are a brilliant idea, it doesn't serve much in the way of slowing down inflation caused by bots, because the profits don't disappear but instead are given to the PKer. Perhaps Jagex could change PK-loot so that the player who dies straight-up loses 50% of their inventory (gets deleted) and nobody profits from it. They could then make a new quest that is kinda long and tedious, but the reward is that your 50% loot from getting PK'd no longer disappears. Bot farms wouldn't take the time to do the quest, and even at 50% less loot for the PKer, the keys still make it profitable enough that players are incentivized to slaughter the bots with less impact on the overall economy.
It incentivizes pking. Which may incentivize pk-bots. And people may decide to farm the bots. more bots being killed = less money for bots (less profit) = less incentive to bot = less bots = lowered item/gp generation. But obviously banning bots and deleting their items would be ideal. PKing is a predatory behavioral and I agree this doesn't decrease botting by much. The loot keys have made killing certain bots very profitable. Hopefully that leads to bans or less botting.
@@user-zu1ix3yq2w yeah I totally understand the bot-pk “cycle”, I’m just saying that the items/profits the bots are making aren’t disappearing - just simply getting transferred to the PKer and ultimately still makes its way into the economy. I think if there were a way to straight-up delete 50% of PK loot (before getting the proposed quest reward), the items/profits from bots would have a 50% less impact on items/currency in circulation. PKers would still be incentivized to kill the bots because even at 50% loot the fact they can hold more via keys is still worth it.
@@etchieSketchie Yeah but what I was saying is: not all of the loot makes it into the economy (i.e. inflation) because this does actually discourage botting somewhat as the bot farmers are making less profit -- they're not going to farm for the benefit of random pkers. (unless they were still making enough profit, but i doubt that.) If I had to guess, it helps (very) minorly. And I'm interested to see how it might evolve. I.e. pkers preying on bots to make easy cash, then pk bots get made, etc. Pkers stop reporting the bots, etc. What you're proposing is what EVE Online does. I dunno if it would be good or bad for osrs (no comment) but I think we all would like the balance of the economy to be preserved. I'm personally not a fan of the GE. I dunno if Jagex has some "you got pk'd you're a bot" metric or not. So I don't see loot keys preventing botting by much. I know if you didn't send clicks to the game, they wouldn't ban you (might still be true today, idk.)
I just discovered a massive bot farm in the god wars dungeon. All around lvl 70-90 same stats above 80 str, wearing same gear. They are in every world farming ecumenical keys. Could be something to look into
You can keep saying that the sponsored game is free all you want, but you still spent a considerable amount of time explaining the real-life money-making aspect of it. Every single venture involving NFTs that I've seen that needs or heavily incentivizes investing money into for a potential monetary gain ended up being a scam. And this ain't gonna be different. Your own viewers are gonna lose their money. Enjoy the ~$10K Pugger.
Cry more. You know nothing about the game, neither do I mind you, but it's just a free to play game with NFT's in it. Why be a complete child over something like that? You don't care for SirPugger if you think him advertising for a free game like Sandbox is awful, but advertising for a game like Raid Shadow Legends is okay, when Raid is almost undoubtedly a more predatory game. Those Free to play phone games are all extremely predatory, and the only reason you're crying about that Sandbox game is because it's associated with NFTs. But at the end of the day you don't understand anything about any of what's going on, you just know you were told to be scared of NFTs. You and all these other cry babies need to chill.
Speaking from experience , I appreciate your effort in these bot busting videos and giving people useful information as to how to find some bot farms and tell the different between player or alt and a bot, but they’ll always be one step ahead on so many levels. Bots will never go away, and with some of the farms I’ve seen over the years, them losing 20-30 accounts isn’t even a dent in their “account reserves” if that’s the correct way to put it. I don’t encourage botting at all, I don’t personally bot but know irl friends and internet friends that do, and some of these scripts are so sophisticated it’s mind blowing. Just like a pvp bot can give even the best pvp’er a run for their money? A pvm bot can do the same. And with people selling level 120+ accounts for sometimes less than $100, it’s not hard to have a huge farm if you have the initial capital to invest into it.
It obviously makes an impact. Coding a bot is a PITA. Running a bot farm, setting up the servers, paying for the servers (and staying profitable), etc. is a bit of a PITA too. Automation is a concept that hardly works without intervention. Running a bot farm is much harder than running a script/bot on your computer. A lot of people seem to run scripts for their character without the intention of gold farming or RWT.
idk what the point of this comment is, basically saying don't bother with reporting bots? That's such a dumb thing to say. Just because botters are a step ahead, doesn't mean we should accept them. Because the only thing stopping bots from completely ruining the economy is them being banned, the game devs don't have a choice, they have to fight them the best they can.
@@user-vz8ic3cb7x Yep, that's it, you and the other NFT bro's are way too intelligent, us regulars just can't comprehend how useful/powerful your picture of a monkey is, but we'll learn one day...right? lolol
I mean, while I don't like the idea of using bots for profit, I think it could be a really fun programming challenge to make a bot just for yourself, not for profit or anything.
i’ve been doing this recently and it’s been really fun. i made a steven ripoff (though with more functions) and a beggar bot that has a bunch of human-like quirks
Unsubscribing until Pugger gets it through his head the same people who run bot farms and staking loan sharks are the exact same kind of people who make NFT scams. You should definitely know better, Pug.
Been a fan of your content for a while now, sad to see you're supporting crypto/blockchain bullshit, won't been coming back to watch your content. It was nice while it lasted!
@@SirPugger All of these various blockchain "get rich quick" games stink of various ponzi schemes. The NFT market itself is so full of scammers there is no real way to trust what is legit and what isn't, and even if it was legit, the market is highly volatile, there is a reason the gaming community doesn't like it and why steam have banned these blockchain "games". Your response in the comments have been copied and pasted to several responses which I would guess is a contractual obligation, but it just all looks very poor on your half, there are plenty of other sponsors out there you could have taken, and its on you for picking such a bad sponsor
@@jonnyfinch1339 So explain to me why Steam still has their marketplace. You own digital items for games and can actively trade them on the market to make money. How is that basically any different from a stupid NFT. It's a name of the product.
Ubisoft got ripped on by millions of gamers for adding NFTs to it's products, because of course they did, it's a blatant cash grab that doesn't do anything positive for the consumer. But The Sandbox, and all other small indie blockchain games somehow get a pass right. Wrong
its the implementations of it. ubisoft has been on hot water for constantly adding pointless cash grabs and adding NFTs to already existing games was the newest version. the indie games like sandbox basically are making NFTs with a game attached. its a case of Sandbox is being forefront with their monetary goal with the NFTs. its like loot boxes in Star Wars Battlefront 2 vs mobile gacha games. one game you have to pay upfront with loot boxes on the side the other one is free with the loot boxes as a core system. (most) people know what they get into when starting the mobile gacha games. granted i myself will probably never partake in any NFTs in a game.
It doesn't matter if a product is actually good vs. a scam. If the general opinion is that it's a scam, you're going to get flak by associating with it even if it's great in reality. If you really think it's worth the backlash, go ahead and take the sponsorship. But you should keep the health of your channel and its viewership in mind - you can't expect your viewers to spend time 'doing research' on a sponsorship they don't like when what they actually want to do is just enjoy your content.
Definitely should reupload without the sponsor Regardless of how you try to “defend” it your community / viewers are majority against it alongside me. Love your content, not your sellout sponsor. Stick to raid
that corp clip make me remember one day i teled to corp to going calvarion cave there was like 10 - 15 guys with same gear - killing boss, teleing back in same tick and teleing out in same tick.. that was kinda odd..
I saw a bot farm in the chaos druid tower by Ardougne. They are all wearing full addy w usually a rune scimmy and a team cape. Almost every world I hopped to had them.
I always appreciate a sirpugger video but y'know... I hope the money from the sandbox was worth it, even if it seems good in concept, crypto and its derivative markets have yet to prove themselves to actually be good for the world. who knows, perhaps this sandbox thing will finally pull that off, but I'm not optimistic. if you do continue to accept sponsorships from them I'll probably stop watching out of principle :/
Cry more. You know nothing about the game, neither do I mind you, but it's just a free to play game with NFT's in it. Why be a complete child over something like that? You don't care for SirPugger if you think him advertising for a free game like Sandbox is awful, but advertising for a game like Raid Shadow Legends is okay, when Raid is almost undoubtedly a more predatory game. Those Free to play phone games are all extremely predatory, and the only reason you're crying about that Sandbox game is because it's associated with NFTs. But at the end of the day you don't understand anything about any of what's going on, you just know you were told to be scared of NFTs. You and all these other cry babies need to chill.
uh... okay then. I do think sandbox looks pretty dang cool, like there's a ton of potential for fun and interesting stuff in it just based on the clips of its gamedev tools alone. like I said, we'll see if it pulls through and proves to the world that blockchain integration is more than just a fad and actually contributes something more meaningful than just its use of resources and energy.
I don't usually comment on you tube, but i feel like jumping onto an NFT based sponsor is never going to end well. There's a very strong reason why they have such a bad rep and its honestly a shame you've been driven to accept this sponsor because that negativity will only make your viewers unhappy or even angry with you. Love your work, but maybe this is worth reuploading and revoking the sponsor due to the backlash your future videos will likely receive - keep up the good work otherwise man
Great video, happy to see the medium clue bot farm is gone. The green dragon bot stacking is amazing too lmao, tempting. Might give it a few days to settle and try it myself
...wanted to comment on the sponsorship in this one... Games that offer the chance to make money can be dangerous. Especially if you need to pay up front to mint some NFTs. Also etherium is b-crap, programmers trying to become the new ruling class. I PUKE. Other than that a big thanks to you for the vids and all the hard work you do to produce these vids!
Ayeee I can actually watch this one :) keep it up, sir pugs Editing my comment with a like not to be toxic but to kindly request you don’t use scams as ads anymore :) real scummy shit, please consider who the target of the scam is (your viewers)
Great vid Sir Pugger, however, I’m commenting to echo the same concerns as everyone else. I refuse to consume any endorsement of NFTs, even this “free to play” NFT farming game. Kindly, I’ll be unsubscribing the next time I find your sponsorship agreements to be of dubious character. Thanks :)
@@fortnitelover3246 When it's 1000, 10000, or even 100000 SirPugger will start caring. I can almost certainly guarantee he lost subs from this video and will see a decline in subs gained from future ones. Even if he didn't lose subs but saw a decrease in average subs from this video he'll reconsider the sponsors he takes from now on. This isn't one person saying they're leaving. I've personally seen dozens of people saying they're leaving and that's the people who actually commented which is a tiny minority of his audience. It's one thing if someone is just commenting "I'm unsubbing" for no reason but it's another when it's a lot of people over the course of several days and for the same reasons. To be honest I'm thinking of doing the same myself.
@@bable6314 I bet he’s happy that all those cry babies are unsubscribing over a little advertisement, if you were offered the money, you would take it too.
Idk if you'll see this, but for about a month there's been a bot farm at chaos druids north of ardy all wearing full addy and a saradomin sword. there's one on almost every world.
Oof ngl I love your content but fr hard to support people pushing NFTs. Hope you do some research b4 you take the next sponsor. Remember your reputation is worth way more than any paycheck
How about you do a video on the looting bots. you know the ones the ones that ruin the fun an integrity of the game in ge, falador party, edgeville etc. it’s annoying that they get everything and jagex doesn’t do a single thing about them.
Wow... Pugger clearly does not do his research on his sponsors. This will be the last SirPugger video I watch. Please research SandBox BEFORE using it.
another way of thinking about what theyre willing to risk*, is how much in the end these bots are generating. doubting that there's a matter of overconfidence, might be for newer people, but generally, my best guess and thought is that with advanced programming routes, such as machine learning or similar. these bots in the end more than likely makes up for those losses without a bigger blow to the operation. or the owner makes a switch that after a certain amount of loss, the farm gets put on a temporary hold while another spots goes online, and swaps as such until x bot at x spot is forgotten and the whole thing goes full circle..
The Sandbox Alpha Season 2 is available now! Register now for your free account in The Sandbox here: register.sandbox.game/alpha2?
Also, wanted to mention this isn't some random NFT project or sh*t coin- it's a massive gaming ecosystem that you can play for FREE!
Not a fan of this kind of ad...
Tbh I was gonna say why advertise another game but this was actually a lit ad for a game
@@SirPugger This dude fake deleted his video to get rid of negative comments, lost a sub from me lol
Love your content but this ad aint it
Still hundreds of accounts in the house south of the Darkmeyer altar. They thieve for Blood Shards and there are literally hundreds with over 110+ thieving. This bot farm has been around for over a year, please do something SirPugger
Somebody gotta fund them for mains when they are too busy at PvMing
@@TheMegatuz they’re a right click then click again thieve and they always hop when you cross a specific tile entering the building. It’s 100% a bot farm. Minimum stats for SotF as well
Tipped him off over a year ago
@@uwantmymemes3288 yeahhhh I’ve reported so many of those bots of the past 12 months :/ none banned
Because they’re gold farmers
You were the Chosen One. It was said you would destroy the scammers, not join them. Bring balance to the internet, not leave it in the darkness of ads supporting NFTs.
Literally LMAO
It is always surprising when someone takes an NFT sponsor or pivot. Like historically since NFTs have come out a majority of people have been against them for a multitude of reasons. I get you need that money but I figured RAID would have paid again
Cus like historically, you gotta get that money. Can't please everyone.
like historically since *insert technology* came out a majority of people have been against them for a multitude of reason. (note the lack of people or reasons mentioned).
People mostly hate NFTs because they heard that they destroy the environment and then just repeat that argument
Most of that argument goes out the door when crypto goes from proof of work to proof of stake.
And at least he promoted an actual legit project instead of a scam project that has no intention to actually grow. The actual worst part about crypto is how unregulated it is and how scammers flourish in the space. Luckily I was scammed early on in life because I played OSRS and recognize a scam when I see one
@@highbread817 even your PoW vs PoS is bs. how much MW/h do banks/atms/stores/etc consume?
Historically lol
from a Season 1 Sandbox player, its a stereotypical NFT Ponzi. Big yikes from me, play it before you take it as a sponsor.
@SirPugger
To clarify my negative review: I spent about 400hours over the month, and in most of that time I felt like I was part of a big new thing, and actually making money - I got lucky with the deadmau5 collections, and lost a lot on snoops stuff when he pulled out temporarily.
Things really changed when I noticed that a large number of the legendary catalysts I was holding was rotating between the same 5 owners with the price rising and rising - and the owners were recognisable: they all moderate the Sandbox discord server.
I am not going to start a witch-hunt on these guys, but know that this project suffers the same price-fixing issue that I was worried about from other games like Blankos Block Party.
It is directly designed to get your money first from the LAND/SAND selling. They do not care about what happens afterwards, and want to go towards decentralised voting based off of the amount of SAND you own. Its a joke, and I hope you stay away from this in the future SirPugger.
@@Hobbitcraft Is it really all about the NFTs though? Isn't that an extra thing? The main thing is that you can build games in there and play with each other?
@@RubberTag the nfts are the core monetisation, it’s impossible to ignore. The games were ok, and the sightseeing is good, but it’s paywalled to shit
@@Hobbitcraft Ooh so its actually p2p not f2p. More like f2join then pay2play like ALL the fkn mobile games now, oh you can download the game but to even look at its content you have to subscribe for $20 a month or some sht?
you have a gained sense of trust from this community because of the exact content you make. this is so predatory to push nfts. hope the bag is worth it
lol. must be payed quite alot to encourage scamming for real life money.
Just because you don't understand them doesn't make nfts bad
Lol "predatory" what a drama queen. Just skip through the ad like an adult
@@user-vz8ic3cb7x an adult wouldn't turn a blind eye to bullshit they don't like and continue to support it
@@Jammerocker the only way to "understand" them is to make the NFT yourself or to buy early and get lucky, there's nothing to understand, it's a pump and dump scheme
Bruh the nft plug killed me chief. Please vet sponsors chief. Great vid though.
Oh he will tell you all about his "research" which was probably just sifting through the marketing material on their website and the points they gave him to read about.
Great video as always, but I wanted to make a comment here to voice the same concern that a few others have had. Please be more selective with your sponsorship deals. The people wanting to push NFTs, even in games have been repeatedly identified as bad actors. It should also be said that Gabe Newel banned NFT games from Steam for the same reason.
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Who watches adds
cool bro
What’s with the nft hate boner
LOL. yea so gabe can push his own NFTs (csgo skins, tf2 unusuals)
Ive been watching the RS3 runetracker, it's nice seeing some of my untrained skills going up in rank by 100+ daily :) Ban hammer putting in work.
but this video is about osrs
@@H410M45T3R so?
Wrong channel.
@@blockeduser9441 so?
That's because all of the profit osrs brings the Chinese jagex management put it all back into rs3. Unfortunately we pay for jagex to instead improve rs3
I started doing impling catching at pura pura and have noticed that whenever a dragon or lucky impling appears, nearly straight away, a bot (guessing) teleports in, real close to it, usually catches it unless you are close and fast, then they teles or world hops out. Seen it happen a load of times.
Another reason to add to the long long list of why it's no longer worth playing OSRS because screw competing with bots. My time on this earth is limited, I wanna enjoy a game, not fight against bots and their knock-on effects.
@@douglasg14b Agreed. Either PvP/anti-pk doing slayer, high end PvM, and perhaps pet hunting. Nothing else is worth doing.
@@SimmyVee Did you know there's a bot that is perfect at pking now?
Love the vids but the NFT sponsor left a bad taste, considering how a huge % are scams! Hope you reconsider!
"considering how a huge % are scams"
You mean 100%, right? NFTs themselves are an outright scam.
@@_Will___ well i don't know the stats per se but all things point towards and element of deviousness behind them - much like any pyramid/ponzi scheme to my knowledge!
sponsor? idk didnt even see it. sponsorblock ftw
@@username-du2er Miss all the goodies with that on!
@@username-du2er is this a chrome add on? Would be dope to have
Are you deleting comments talking about your nft sponsor?
Hey man first time comment on your videos i believe but i wanted to say, i know a sponsor is a sponsor but not really happy about the play to pay NFT thing youre pushing here man
That's because you don't understand it.
@@clubhousepokerbuddies9513 Every time someone says you don't understand it, is because they themselves don't understand it
Man this was super interesting & good on jamflex for finally doing something to help target bots, granted this does nothing for the 99% elsewhere
Sir Pugger, please look into the gold farmers in Priff: Ive seen 20+ accounts with 126 thieving levels and no other 99s.
Same for runite mining gold farmers / bots in the mine there. over 110 mining levels no other 99s.
Its in Darkmeyer too.
@@TaikaJamppa virtual levels. They don't do anything
I've had a few experiences with guys in maxed gear asking me to buy them a stack of ge limit collection items (watermelons, coal, ect). Then they add you and try to pull you into an anti luring scheme. They even go as far to fill you in on a scheme and you get a whip or something. Then of course there comes a point where for whatever reason you have to be the bait. It's happened twice. Some kind of luring based on the long game over a couple of days. Might make an interesting video.
In regards to the bot at around 6 minutes: They likely have a list of npcs to train on, and a time allotted for one area to minimize ban risk. Fight monks for 45 minutes, task ends, fight black knights for 32 minutes, etc.
Y kick tho
Can’t believe after we’ve lost another one to the NFT goons
We're really finding out who has morals and who doesn't.
@@maskettaman1488 to be fair it's only a sponsorship, dumbass NFT bros would probably get wind of sandbox eventually, and every other viewer wouldn't even bother anyway.
the money is clearly too good for the influencers to resist when even someone pointing out other forms of "scams" is pushing this
@@MoctorDac you say that like there aren't highly impressionable people including kids on the internet
@@maskettaman1488 what do nfts have anything to do with morals? literally everything digital that you own in about 5-10 years will be an nft so best get used to it.
I am sad that you have prompted a NFT add. As a content creator you should know how bad NFT would be if they became the normal.
On the plus side nice video!
Great video as always, Pugger, but I'm afraid I'm going to have to leave a dislike and voice my disappointment on this one for the NFT scheme promo. These things are always universally scams and this is a really bad look for someone trying to grow their channel. Please reconsider taking these sponsorships in the future.
Too bad TH-cam fucking removed dislikes so not a single person can actually see the dislike count
This is actually a really interesting and unique use of blockchain technology. Just because you don't understand what a blockchain is and how it could be used in this manner doesn't make it a scam lol
Prob a bot, mad he got busted
@@DrumDrum83 probably the worst take in defence of NFT's I've ever heard
he's become a sellout, I unsubbed long time ago
Anddddd that sponsor deal is a red flag.
Agreed, also deleting comments that talk about it that have likes
Why, sandbox sounds like a pretty good concept
100%
@@jacobringgaardmikkelsen5103 Hopefully, but if it is like Roblox it is a bad sponsor.
Hopefully this Sandbox is good people and give more to the creators and the people then Roblox.
@@jacobringgaardmikkelsen5103 It's a scam. There's no reason for it to be using a blockchain other than pay shills to pump the value of their coin so that they can dump their holdings and disappear. It happens over and over because scumbags like SirPugger care about a dollar more than they do their audience.
oof, you fucked up taking the NFT sponsor.
fucked up some commas 😪
Who the fuck cares
The green d'hide bot lure into mutli for barrage is epic.
I'm almost at 3k medium clue scrolls done so i'd really appreciate these bots getting busted both for overall rank and price of loot since im dry* on rangers. *2 total, so barely unlucky
Over 4100 med done here over 1k meds dry on rangers
@@abis_osrs9212 nice I’m couple hundred behind you
did 70 meds got 2 rangers lmao
What a how
October 2020 Ranger boots on 4th Med Clue.
I had a forgotten account that i recently wanted to play on for nostalgia. Tried logging in but couldnt and i thought to myself " oh i just probably forgot the password" i reset the password only to find the account at green dragons with membership. The account had 40 melee stats and now it has 90s and had around 5m in items on it. Thanks for the free xp botters lol.
The reason people don't like the sponsorship is quite rational. Just because the game is free to play doesn't change the fact that the core monetization is bad. It's a boring rpg with a place to look at nfts. Which are historically scams, artwork stolen from artists, or lazy re-skins of the same image, with the only value being speculative. The idea is to hope a bigger sucker comes and pays more than you did, with his hopes being the exact same. There is no inherent value. Not to mention how devastating to the environment they are. Also keep in mind that owning an nft doesn't even mean you own the image, you own a link to the image in an image hosting site. All of these reasons have pushed people away from nft projects. So, when a boring rpg with bad mechanics comes (I tried it out) and the only redeeming quality is that it has nfts, people don't like it. The only thing that I like about this, is that maybe less people will bot and rwt in osrs when these games exist.
"The idea is to hope a bigger sucker comes and pays more than you did"
Have you heard of capitalism? You're calling people suckers, to imply a negative connotation on a buy/sell commodity market. It's not a mic drop statement.
It's the same thing has been been going on and working for years. If you don't want a nft, don't buy it. Everything else you've said is highly opinionated and shows you don't have a clue about normal art, localized art, creative projects, creative Commons etc. And if you want to hop on the it's bad for the environment bandwagon make sure you're doing you're absolute best to decrease your carbon footprint print. Otherwise this entire post reeks of virtue signaling.
And no I I don't have any interest in Sandbox or interest NFTs. I just dislike entitled comments.
@@LuvMehSi The difference between an nft and other forms of consumerism is, with a product or service I'm trading money for something of value (for example, I buy a rs sub to get entertainment from rs for a month), conversly with an nft the only value is what the other person will pay for it, there is no inherent value as the image can be easily duplicated for free with the exact same value. Its purely speculative, therefore totally pointless. This causes "investors" to be willfully ignorant and ignore blatant issues, since if people aren't buying the value drops to zero (which is non existent for a product with inherent value). Not to mention the speculative nature makes the soace rife with scams. Thats different than the investment in a company however, the money you put into the company will be used to grow the company, thereby increasing the value of the piece of the company you own (which cant be duplicated for the same value).
regarding artists. nfts dont help artists. just look at how many independent artists have had their art stolen and made into nfts. just check the deviantart protect numbers for a small example.
regarding the environment. You dont need to be an environmental saint to criticize especially egregious things. a single transaction with Ethereum has an equivalent carbon footprint of over 225 000 VISA transactions, or over 17 000 hours of watching youtube videos, which was after their "going green" initiative in may 2021. Most nfts use eth based tech, and are designed to be traded. So, I dont need to be 100% green to be able to say thats too much, and waay to harmful.
Its not virtue signaling, its pointing out when a bad system is bad.
You're not buying an image, it's a link to a host of the image on the Blockchain; the image helps identify which token is yours
Gonna point out I'm not a fan of NFTs in their current form. On the topic of the environmnent, I get your concern. ETH is moving to a PoS system soon, though. PoS doesn't use any hardware to actually "mine" Ether, rather you put the it into a pool and get rewarded for holding it there (atleast that's how earning it should work as far as I know).
The game I don't know much about, besides the SAND crypto blowing up a lot for quite a few months. That's about all I got, hopefully Pugger takes some time to consider the people giving feedback.
This game offers consumable NFT's. In that - it means you USE your NFT to progress in the game, or sell it for real money. It's literally no different then the steam market place to a consumer.
Please be wise of which sponsors you take. You’ve gained a lot of respect for your work, taking something like this is a poor reflection of that.
Why? It's a try to get Venezuleans go away to that game
@@DanaAst because these nft games have been proven to be rug pulls again and again
NFT shit needs to disappear from this earth.
It's just money laundering, plain and simple. There might be some 🤡s that pay a bunch for some pixels, but with the rich it's just a way to clean money.
I don't normally comment, but an NFT supporting ad (or game supporting it) is enough to have me stop watching the video and potentially future videos.
You'll thank yourself when you don't lose a large chunk of your viewers to supporting NFTs
bye.
Dont trip on the way out
@@garrettdelong4328 Good one hahaha! So funny! American yt boys🤡
Amazing video as always! But i'm not a big fan of NFT sponsorships and NFT in general.
SPEAKING OF NFTs.
IM MAD. NOW I THINK ABOUT IT, I LOVE BOTTERS.
True entrepreneurs, they made a living off of the fake economy from a game we used to play as children. I absolutely love botters, it's inspirational, they make so much money out of absolutely nothing, THIN AIR. That's hustle, real hustle right damn their boy.
Also, these botters been in the NFT game since before the term NFTs was coined, ain't that some damn entrepreneurship for ya ass now huh.
If you're hating, you're a nerd, and not the nerd the teachers said the other kids would be working for.
LOSERS
It's not an NFT. He's an idiot for using the term NFT. The Sandbox uses real world trading for game assets, meaning people make assets and you buy them in. That isn't a non-fungible token.
@@drfate7863 They literally say on their website the ‘assets’ you make are sold as NFTs
Flumpin Addicted to this game again. I played so long yesterday there was a prompt on screen " you've been playing for too long, you should take a break from your screen ". I'm OK jagex. The grind won't grind itself.
Damn, sir pugger dabbling in nfts, what a shame
why are you acting as if he's doing hard drugs?
@@zzzkk0 maybe because they insecure, volatile, and the owners of them directly financially benefit from getting others to buy into them.
Y'know that almost sounds like a pyramid scheme. No one actually wants the ugly monkey, it's just a gambling game of hot potato to see if you can sell at a profit to a bigger idiot.
@@zzzkk0 yeah, drugs are a lot less harmful. you should go harder on the guy
Lmfao you sound like the same people talking when .Com was the new thing. It's call changing times get with it or be stuck in the past
@@Slot_Safari Honey, the nft market has already crashed. There is not changing times with this one
The core concept of the sponsor is dubious at best, but interesting video.
Games don't need to use NFTs to convey ownership of items. The computational requirements for that are terrible for the environment, just for an item in a game. Shit ain't worth it.
Sorry for contributing to the pile-on over this sponsorship, but we're trying to help. These types of markets are bad news, dog!
Cry more. You know nothing about the game, neither do I mind you, but it's just a free to play game with NFT's in it. Why be a complete child over something like that? You don't care for SirPugger if you think him advertising for a free game like Sandbox is awful, but advertising for a game like Raid Shadow Legends is okay, when Raid is almost undoubtedly a more predatory game. Those Free to play phone games are all extremely predatory, and the only reason you're crying about that Sandbox game is because it's associated with NFTs. But at the end of the day you don't understand anything about any of what's going on, you just know you were told to be scared of NFTs. You and all these other cry babies need to chill.
@@tylerdavisson355 Nice Copy Paste.
@@tylerdavisson355 You're copy and pasting this all over the place. You're either financially invested in the scam or you're just stupid lmao
@@maskettaman1488 I think it's the second one.
Terrible uneducated view.
Really disappointed to see someone fighting bots take a sponsor that only looks to scam people. Really hope you reconsider your sponsors.
It's free to play! I understand most crypto things are scams, but I heavily researched The Sandbox before promoting it. Come to your own conclusions of course, but feel free to leave any evidence of a scam here, I'd love to see it!
@@SirPugger you wouldn't be nor are playing this game yourself, which should be one of your first priorities when picking a sponsor. The promise of making money is where the scam lies.
@@SirPugger you have no self respect
@@SirPugger What a shit copy and paste response.
@@Jadziarai did you buy $SAND @ $6 ??
Well this video was pretty ironic. Reconsider your sponsers
I dont see anything ironic about it
The monastery was a great place to train my str pure like 15 years ago. I would play it on a second screen and if I was low on health you just ask a monk to heal you.
That random gear is the gear needed for medium clue steps
Bots farms eclectics implings, bots opens eclectic implings, mains buys ranger boots.
The cycle is formed.
I like too think these guys that bot are subbed n notifications on so they can see how too avoid you. Your channel is always a joy to watch n keep up the hard work. We all appreciate it! Well at least I do! Imagine osrs with only players n no bots just alts.
The new PJ timer ruined killing the green dragon bots. I used to kill them for fun for years. As soon as you show up on their screen they have almost 10 seconds to calmly walk south and telly as long as they didn't kill the dragon they were fighting. You can still get a few kills but it is much harder. They don't die as much and you can tell by the gear you get. They've upgraded some to glories and combat bracelets when before they only carried str amulets and dueling rings. Shows how much less the creators are afraid of them dying.
They should make a minigame where players spy on potential bots and the more correct bots they just the better the rewards
Cool video as always. Bad choice of a Sponsor.
Defending a crypto game is not gonna make your audience like NFT more. It's not you, but people in the gaming sphere are heavily against it and Steam just banned NFT's in games for obvious reasons.
It's cool if you believe it's a legit game and you like playing it, but you're dismissing your audience point of view on the subject as a whole I think...
Anyways you get my like for the awesome content as always ;)
we want u to make more money but those NFT things a bit scetchy these days
Bullshit'll run a marathon.
The way I see it, crypto and NFTs is gambling like some damn baccarat or blackjack. Most people don't even understand what their investing in so you might as well say, "hit me," and wish for the best.
@@ihateeverything3972 nah not gambling it's 100% money laundering though
@@epsorks It's both.
I found some random bot farm today also in GE. They were asking if anybody have rune set (to give for free of course), and they would trade and accept only that item. They kept spamming that and had no reaction to any messages, so 100% sure it is a bot
There’s no way the sponsor named their cryptocurrency “SAND” so that when it inevitably becomes worthless people can say it has about the same value. 💀
Seriously, I hope you consider avoiding sponsors like this in the future. Even if you put aside the questionable morals, bad actors, exit scams, and corporate-worldview-of-creativity associated with NFTs, there are still issues. There have been other “free to play” currency-linked game concepts, and almost all of them rely on people who whale, or making the grind so insane that you eventually feel compelled to spend real money. That only just scratches the surface.
I think you deserve to know how potentially harmful this type of scheme is, and highly recommend watching People Make Games’ documentary videos on Ubisoft’s NFTs and a so-called “Cash-based MMO”.
It aint that deep, legit a metaverse game. Too huge market caps so there is no whales do some reachers first before u hate on the man
@@valdrin37 Found the guy who fell for the NFT pyramid scheme.
SAND has a Big marked cap, are you also afraid of aliens
0 Lies told... these 3 comments below haven't heard of Coffeezilla lol.. or Spencer
This guy has never held a crypto before …
All these games with built in crypto are basically scams, advertising that in a video is a step in the wrong direction mate
It's free to play! I understand most crypto things are scams, but I heavily researched The Sandbox before promoting it. Come to your own conclusions of course, but feel free to leave any evidence of a scam here, I'd love to see it!
If you stare into the abyss long enough, it stares back
@SirPugger Explaining the toxicity of the NFT and crypto space as a whole is simply not feasible in a youtube comment. I can only recommend doing your research into NFTs yourself, if you've somehow been living under a rock. I personally recommend Folding Ideas's video "Line Goes up - The Problem With NFTs". This is not a trivial ask, but nor is this a trivial issue.
You're going to get a lot of shit for this ad, so you at least owe it to yourself to understand why.
NFTs are inherently problematic, and therefor any and all uses of them are problematic by association. It is entirely impossible to have a "good" NFT product, when to have an NFT product at all is to support the entire system. This game may not be intending, on its own merits, to scam people, but it's participating in an ecosystem that is inherently predatory.
To be fair, you play RuneScape, which most of the people who play are bitcoin bro bro blue lives matter Trump supporters millennials who act like their boomer parents so I think advertisements for crypto targets a majority of the community
@@kelpsie I bought a NFT of your sister getting a reach around from a homeless dude for twenty dollars
Worth it
Glad he's against scammers in osrs but down to scam his viewers in other ways :)
You know what they say, pump while telling everyone you're stupid and don't understand crypto, and then disappear when the scam inevitably shits itself
Pugger advertising NFT's while at the same time hating on botters lol
Like in the GE when one group of scammers tries to warn people about a second group of scammers. Pugger is apparently just another scumbag
@@maskettaman1488 Agreed, his meta is "exposing bots". But I'm sure he has financial interests in cheaper items before he tells his volunteer army to do the legwork of hunting them down and report them in high enough numbers to affect market prices. Thats his whole thing, we need to make these items more expensive in game. Could you imagine busting a salmon fishing bot, I wouldn't wish salmon fishing for gp on anyone.
Literally not remotely related
I know this is going to sound controversial but... While the loot keys are a brilliant idea, it doesn't serve much in the way of slowing down inflation caused by bots, because the profits don't disappear but instead are given to the PKer.
Perhaps Jagex could change PK-loot so that the player who dies straight-up loses 50% of their inventory (gets deleted) and nobody profits from it. They could then make a new quest that is kinda long and tedious, but the reward is that your 50% loot from getting PK'd no longer disappears. Bot farms wouldn't take the time to do the quest, and even at 50% less loot for the PKer, the keys still make it profitable enough that players are incentivized to slaughter the bots with less impact on the overall economy.
It incentivizes pking. Which may incentivize pk-bots. And people may decide to farm the bots.
more bots being killed = less money for bots (less profit) = less incentive to bot = less bots = lowered item/gp generation.
But obviously banning bots and deleting their items would be ideal. PKing is a predatory behavioral and I agree this doesn't decrease botting by much. The loot keys have made killing certain bots very profitable. Hopefully that leads to bans or less botting.
@@user-zu1ix3yq2w yeah I totally understand the bot-pk “cycle”, I’m just saying that the items/profits the bots are making aren’t disappearing - just simply getting transferred to the PKer and ultimately still makes its way into the economy.
I think if there were a way to straight-up delete 50% of PK loot (before getting the proposed quest reward), the items/profits from bots would have a 50% less impact on items/currency in circulation.
PKers would still be incentivized to kill the bots because even at 50% loot the fact they can hold more via keys is still worth it.
@@etchieSketchie Yeah but what I was saying is: not all of the loot makes it into the economy (i.e. inflation) because this does actually discourage botting somewhat as the bot farmers are making less profit -- they're not going to farm for the benefit of random pkers. (unless they were still making enough profit, but i doubt that.) If I had to guess, it helps (very) minorly.
And I'm interested to see how it might evolve. I.e. pkers preying on bots to make easy cash, then pk bots get made, etc. Pkers stop reporting the bots, etc.
What you're proposing is what EVE Online does. I dunno if it would be good or bad for osrs (no comment) but I think we all would like the balance of the economy to be preserved. I'm personally not a fan of the GE.
I dunno if Jagex has some "you got pk'd you're a bot" metric or not. So I don't see loot keys preventing botting by much. I know if you didn't send clicks to the game, they wouldn't ban you (might still be true today, idk.)
I'm a simple person. I see some one pushing a scam, I unsub and withdraw my support. Sucks that this is gonna be my last puggers vid. Oh well.
I just discovered a massive bot farm in the god wars dungeon. All around lvl 70-90 same stats above 80 str, wearing same gear. They are in every world farming ecumenical keys. Could be something to look into
NFT = immediate dislike
Who else is watching from prison?! Times are tough man and you make my life so much happier, appreciate it man! 🙏🏻
You can keep saying that the sponsored game is free all you want, but you still spent a considerable amount of time explaining the real-life money-making aspect of it.
Every single venture involving NFTs that I've seen that needs or heavily incentivizes investing money into for a potential monetary gain ended up being a scam.
And this ain't gonna be different.
Your own viewers are gonna lose their money.
Enjoy the ~$10K Pugger.
Cry more. You know nothing about the game, neither do I mind you, but it's just a free to play game with NFT's in it. Why be a complete child over something like that? You don't care for SirPugger if you think him advertising for a free game like Sandbox is awful, but advertising for a game like Raid Shadow Legends is okay, when Raid is almost undoubtedly a more predatory game. Those Free to play phone games are all extremely predatory, and the only reason you're crying about that Sandbox game is because it's associated with NFTs. But at the end of the day you don't understand anything about any of what's going on, you just know you were told to be scared of NFTs. You and all these other cry babies need to chill.
This is not worse than a average mobile gaming ad
Speaking from experience , I appreciate your effort in these bot busting videos and giving people useful information as to how to find some bot farms and tell the different between player or alt and a bot, but they’ll always be one step ahead on so many levels. Bots will never go away, and with some of the farms I’ve seen over the years, them losing 20-30 accounts isn’t even a dent in their “account reserves” if that’s the correct way to put it. I don’t encourage botting at all, I don’t personally bot but know irl friends and internet friends that do, and some of these scripts are so sophisticated it’s mind blowing. Just like a pvp bot can give even the best pvp’er a run for their money? A pvm bot can do the same. And with people selling level 120+ accounts for sometimes less than $100, it’s not hard to have a huge farm if you have the initial capital to invest into it.
It obviously makes an impact. Coding a bot is a PITA. Running a bot farm, setting up the servers, paying for the servers (and staying profitable), etc. is a bit of a PITA too. Automation is a concept that hardly works without intervention. Running a bot farm is much harder than running a script/bot on your computer. A lot of people seem to run scripts for their character without the intention of gold farming or RWT.
idk what the point of this comment is, basically saying don't bother with reporting bots? That's such a dumb thing to say. Just because botters are a step ahead, doesn't mean we should accept them. Because the only thing stopping bots from completely ruining the economy is them being banned, the game devs don't have a choice, they have to fight them the best they can.
Jagex should definitely hire you, allowing you to collect a list of bots to ban with the rotten potato like they did in the bot busting streams.
why hire him when he does it for free alreday
@@dungeoner2356 probably makes more on ads than jagex could afford to pay him lol
Pugger plugging cryptogames... Lol
Why the reupload?
why did you remove the first one?
It wasn't loading in HD for a lot of people!
@@SirPugger makes sense! Thank you
I think he wanted to delete all the dislikes and comments from the people mad about the scam sponsorship.
Man I really love your content but this sponsor was a really bad choice.
lmfao howso? sandbox is pretty lit actually
@@PTMG Yeah maybe if you're 12 and take special education classes, lol
Why? Because gamers have decided NFTs are too complicated so they shit on them without reason?
@@user-vz8ic3cb7x Yep, that's it, you and the other NFT bro's are way too intelligent, us regulars just can't comprehend how useful/powerful your picture of a monkey is, but we'll learn one day...right? lolol
@@ITheorey why screenshot a picture when you can buy the “rights” to it instead? - the logic of people who support NFTS
I mean, while I don't like the idea of using bots for profit, I think it could be a really fun programming challenge to make a bot just for yourself, not for profit or anything.
i’ve been doing this recently and it’s been really fun. i made a steven ripoff (though with more functions) and a beggar bot that has a bunch of human-like quirks
Unsubscribing until Pugger gets it through his head the same people who run bot farms and staking loan sharks are the exact same kind of people who make NFT scams. You should definitely know better, Pug.
LMAO
should hire sir pugger for bot busting in jagex name and keep posting vids to show people they are on top of it
why'd you take the video down? i figured it was because you got shit for promoting eth but nope, still there
No- HD version wasn't loading
nah he just deletes the negative comments about it
so once a bot is banned with a high rank and kc on a boss or clue scrolls, is it removed from the hiscores?
I mean, I support getting that bread... but we really out here doing ads for NFT scams? :oof:
At what point does jagex start tracing the gold once it’s sold? Once it’s sold do they just have no choice but to forget it?
Been a fan of your content for a while now, sad to see you're supporting crypto/blockchain bullshit, won't been coming back to watch your content. It was nice while it lasted!
FYI hes deleting comments that are gaining traction complaining about it
@@lennerd6 Then so be it.
Dumb complaint.. you’re gonna stop following/supporting somebody because they vaguely promote economic or financial independence? 🤦♂️
The bots run north in rev cave apart of a bigger operation, if u follow them in 5+ mill risk a fully maxed main with megatron ahk will kill you
This sponsorship was pretty terrible man
Please explain!
@@SirPugger All of these various blockchain "get rich quick" games stink of various ponzi schemes. The NFT market itself is so full of scammers there is no real way to trust what is legit and what isn't, and even if it was legit, the market is highly volatile, there is a reason the gaming community doesn't like it and why steam have banned these blockchain "games". Your response in the comments have been copied and pasted to several responses which I would guess is a contractual obligation, but it just all looks very poor on your half, there are plenty of other sponsors out there you could have taken, and its on you for picking such a bad sponsor
@@jonnyfinch1339 You explained now why hasnt he? ...kinda disappointing
@sirpugger oof now what? I feel like youtubers just have to make videos for a sponsorships. So videos tend to come out blend,no effort, and pointless.
@@jonnyfinch1339 So explain to me why Steam still has their marketplace. You own digital items for games and can actively trade them on the market to make money. How is that basically any different from a stupid NFT. It's a name of the product.
Ubisoft got ripped on by millions of gamers for adding NFTs to it's products, because of course they did, it's a blatant cash grab that doesn't do anything positive for the consumer. But The Sandbox, and all other small indie blockchain games somehow get a pass right.
Wrong
its the implementations of it. ubisoft has been on hot water for constantly adding pointless cash grabs and adding NFTs to already existing games was the newest version.
the indie games like sandbox basically are making NFTs with a game attached.
its a case of Sandbox is being forefront with their monetary goal with the NFTs. its like loot boxes in Star Wars Battlefront 2 vs mobile gacha games. one game you have to pay upfront with loot boxes on the side the other one is free with the loot boxes as a core system. (most) people know what they get into when starting the mobile gacha games.
granted i myself will probably never partake in any NFTs in a game.
It doesn't matter if a product is actually good vs. a scam. If the general opinion is that it's a scam, you're going to get flak by associating with it even if it's great in reality. If you really think it's worth the backlash, go ahead and take the sponsorship. But you should keep the health of your channel and its viewership in mind - you can't expect your viewers to spend time 'doing research' on a sponsorship they don't like when what they actually want to do is just enjoy your content.
Found some angler fishing bots this weekend. All between combat levels 30-40 and 3-4 repeating numbers in their names.
Definitely should reupload without the sponsor
Regardless of how you try to “defend” it your community / viewers are majority against it alongside me. Love your content, not your sellout sponsor. Stick to raid
that corp clip make me remember one day i teled to corp to going calvarion cave there was like 10 - 15 guys with same gear - killing boss, teleing back in same tick and teleing out in same tick.. that was kinda odd..
I saw a bot farm in the chaos druid tower by Ardougne. They are all wearing full addy w usually a rune scimmy and a team cape. Almost every world I hopped to had them.
Yeah. Theyre lil world crashers. Sad af
Ignore all the people bitching and moaning about an ad because they were told to hate NFTs. Thanks for the video.
I always appreciate a sirpugger video but y'know... I hope the money from the sandbox was worth it, even if it seems good in concept, crypto and its derivative markets have yet to prove themselves to actually be good for the world. who knows, perhaps this sandbox thing will finally pull that off, but I'm not optimistic. if you do continue to accept sponsorships from them I'll probably stop watching out of principle :/
Cry more. You know nothing about the game, neither do I mind you, but it's just a free to play game with NFT's in it. Why be a complete child over something like that? You don't care for SirPugger if you think him advertising for a free game like Sandbox is awful, but advertising for a game like Raid Shadow Legends is okay, when Raid is almost undoubtedly a more predatory game. Those Free to play phone games are all extremely predatory, and the only reason you're crying about that Sandbox game is because it's associated with NFTs. But at the end of the day you don't understand anything about any of what's going on, you just know you were told to be scared of NFTs. You and all these other cry babies need to chill.
uh... okay then. I do think sandbox looks pretty dang cool, like there's a ton of potential for fun and interesting stuff in it just based on the clips of its gamedev tools alone. like I said, we'll see if it pulls through and proves to the world that blockchain integration is more than just a fad and actually contributes something more meaningful than just its use of resources and energy.
Hey if you don't like it, just hit the dislike button!...
oh.
wait...
shit
TH-cam sucks.
Your intentions seem good, i personally wouldnt worry unless sir pugger starts scamming
@@tylerdavisson355 you just through a temper tantrum because someone maturely expressed an opinion you didn't like... Grow up
ice barraging those green dragon bots was so satisfying
I don't usually comment on you tube, but i feel like jumping onto an NFT based sponsor is never going to end well. There's a very strong reason why they have such a bad rep and its honestly a shame you've been driven to accept this sponsor because that negativity will only make your viewers unhappy or even angry with you. Love your work, but maybe this is worth reuploading and revoking the sponsor due to the backlash your future videos will likely receive - keep up the good work otherwise man
7:22 The way that bot turns to look at that loot.
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that sandbox gave you a super nice sum for that promo but if you push another NFT I gotta stop watching boss..
Great video, happy to see the medium clue bot farm is gone. The green dragon bot stacking is amazing too lmao, tempting. Might give it a few days to settle and try it myself
The key system seems like a good change.
...wanted to comment on the sponsorship in this one... Games that offer the chance to make money can be dangerous. Especially if you need to pay up front to mint some NFTs. Also etherium is b-crap, programmers trying to become the new ruling class. I PUKE. Other than that a big thanks to you for the vids and all the hard work you do to produce these vids!
Ayeee I can actually watch this one :) keep it up, sir pugs
Editing my comment with a like not to be toxic but to kindly request you don’t use scams as ads anymore :) real scummy shit, please consider who the target of the scam is (your viewers)
Why don’t they make bot bounty hunts. You get the bots bank key like in DMM
Great vid Sir Pugger, however, I’m commenting to echo the same concerns as everyone else. I refuse to consume any endorsement of NFTs, even this “free to play” NFT farming game. Kindly, I’ll be unsubscribing the next time I find your sponsorship agreements to be of dubious character. Thanks :)
BYE.
oh my god bruh nobody cares if you’re unsubscribing
@@fortnitelover3246 When it's 1000, 10000, or even 100000 SirPugger will start caring. I can almost certainly guarantee he lost subs from this video and will see a decline in subs gained from future ones. Even if he didn't lose subs but saw a decrease in average subs from this video he'll reconsider the sponsors he takes from now on. This isn't one person saying they're leaving. I've personally seen dozens of people saying they're leaving and that's the people who actually commented which is a tiny minority of his audience. It's one thing if someone is just commenting "I'm unsubbing" for no reason but it's another when it's a lot of people over the course of several days and for the same reasons. To be honest I'm thinking of doing the same myself.
@@fortnitelover3246 SirPugger will, when 10000 or more people unsub.
@@bable6314 I bet he’s happy that all those cry babies are unsubscribing over a little advertisement, if you were offered the money, you would take it too.
I remember in the good ol' days when the only ads you needed to worry about was RAID and male pubic gardening tools
dont like the NFT ad. otherwise love your vids
Idk if you'll see this, but for about a month there's been a bot farm at chaos druids north of ardy all wearing full addy and a saradomin sword. there's one on almost every world.
It would be better if yagex would inform you through game if the person you reported was punished.
Are the kicking bots perhaps server tick lag compensators for other bots doing an exploit that requires perfect server tick timing?
Great idea.
Oof ngl I love your content but fr hard to support people pushing NFTs. Hope you do some research b4 you take the next sponsor. Remember your reputation is worth way more than any paycheck
There are a ton of bots by the pyrefiends in revs with abby whips and obby shields too. Usually midday US times on most worlds.
How about you do a video on the looting bots. you know the ones the ones that ruin the fun an integrity of the game in ge, falador party, edgeville etc. it’s annoying that they get everything and jagex doesn’t do a single thing about them.
Wait lol you are doing sandbox stuff?
Where you at in the discord?
Wow... Pugger clearly does not do his research on his sponsors. This will be the last SirPugger video I watch. Please research SandBox BEFORE using it.
Sucks for you to miss out on his good content. If you don't like the ad. SKIP IT.
another way of thinking about what theyre willing to risk*, is how much in the end these bots are generating.
doubting that there's a matter of overconfidence, might be for newer people, but generally, my best guess and thought is that with advanced programming routes, such as machine learning or similar.
these bots in the end more than likely makes up for those losses without a bigger blow to the operation.
or the owner makes a switch that after a certain amount of loss, the farm gets put on a temporary hold while another spots goes online, and swaps as such until x bot at x spot is forgotten and the whole thing goes full circle..