Would you rather Cupsole or Vulcsole
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- There are a few KEY things to remember when you are picking between a Vulc and a Cup. here's what 16 years of skating taught me.
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padding ! most vulc shoes are a lot thinner than cupsoles, in general I hurt my feet a lot more in vulcs.
That’s a good point.
@@rowanmadden8689 not worth it because vulc hurts your feet first, then your back, then you become paraplegic so you cant wear vulcs anymore
agreed
I think Christian wanted some dabate because is totally the opposite 😅
@@Elec3cal great, i love vulcs. any tips for a nice thicc pair ? i just got the Rowans they look pretty sturdy
rip to Brady who slapped some money on the patreon just do get called bradley 😩
My opinion:
Cupsole: more consistent flick
Vulcs: more dramatic flick
This ^
I’ve only ever owned and skated one pair of vulcanized shoes. The flick is precisely why I stopped skating them.
what does dramatic flick mean, like good style or just a better flick?
@@joshmolina6528 dramatic meaning a bit faster and a little less control sometimes. If you see a good pair of vulcanized shoes, then go for it. If you’re used to skating cup soles then just expect to change up your skating a bit. Nothing bad.
I recently bought me some Kyle walker pros because I want to give vulcanized shoes another shot. My advice: Go with what feels right for you. Personally, I love cup soles for the protection.
When you’re to poor to support the patreon lol
Bruh why does Jake paul have more subs than this dude
Idk about cup or vulc, but what I do know is you should do a full review on Timbs 🥾🥾🥾🥾
review globe shoes
ps: the insoles suck
pss: i think that you are wrong in one thing... the space in between the floor and the foot is higher in a cup sole not in a vulc
psss: lvu
It really depends on how thick the vulc sole is and how much padding they drop into three mid-sole. Adidas cup soles tend to be super thick, but I've gotten a couple pairs of fallen and a pair of eS that are fairly thin. Vulc is fairly standard (but not indistinguishable).
101 kick flips in dr. Martens 😂
Hey what about a new review about éS Accel Slim (plus) or
lmao i literally just voted on your story and Instanly got this notification 😂
hahah nice.
Yeooo kxv imma a fan of your vids bro ❗️🔥
@@sleezer7 ayeee that's what's up bro!
Honestly I enjoy the flick on cupsoles more than on vulc shoes. Idk I just feel like when I'm doing it on a cupsole, since the suede is the part of the shoe that is flicking, it feels so much more precise and more controlled. On a vulc you have this big rubber part that makes my flicks more inconsistent. That rubber kinda separates my foot from the board, but when you are flicking with the suede part it feels like your actual toe is doing the flick which makes it more controlled. Also, that rubber on the vulcs wears out super fast for me, and I absolutely hate that my kickflips feel some way one week and they feel completely different the next week because the rubber wore out which makes the flick feel different.
you should review some DCs og reissue
yo I entered at 0 views wtf
wow that means you are view number 1 :)
Hello Christian, nice video as usual. Please review the Emerica Figgy Dose or another EMERICA shoe - you have been reviewing skate shoes for such a long time and still not a single review on one of the best and truest to skateboarding brands?! Come on!
What about a review on the lakai Cambridge 😳
is kyle walker pro good or half cab pro, or are these both good?
My friend had them and they were super good, they lasted him like 3 months, Christian also made a review back on ride channel
@@poopooman6593 ik but it felt sponsored and he didn't say the bad things about them
that one is super good. for that reason.
@@christianflores what reason? and which one is good?
@@christianflores like I am a beginner and I want shoes that would help me get rid of the vibration of the board cause I got shitty roads to skate, and which is durable cause I can only get 1 pair of shoes
please can you do a lakai carrol review. love your vids
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Yoo I really want this one. I love the look of it
do an Emerica shoe review! ill definitely sub and like every video then. just want to see if they're still solid kicks.
Got an Emerica Romero, they're solid af..
Their designer also did a video bout cupsole vs vulcanised too back then..😂
I used a vulc shoe once and it hurts...
So only cupsole
All I know is (and what honestly confuses me most) is that when I went from Nike Bruin SB’s (vulc), to eS accel slims (cupsole)… the NIKE’S HAD INFINITELY BETTER IMPACT SUPPORT with a bouncy rubber outsole and a zoom insole. Maybe the eS shoes are just poorly made now since they’re resurgence, but I couldn’t believe how much pain the accels caused and how thin they were compared to the sole of the Nike bruins. 🤷♂️
On a different note, I just wish the Tiago 1010’s had better grip and ball of foot support… because that shoe would be pretty perfect otherwise. And it’s not nearly as bulky as I thought it would be from photos online.
PS: Christian PLEASE release your signature insole 🙏 otherwise I may consider the FP insole for whatever next shoe I go for… maybe Etnies marana 🙏
landing protection coulda been covered too. Landing primo in vulc (vans specifically) is genuinely painful in comparison to cup soles
can you please review the vans crockett high pro's next?????????
Love the vids, what’s up dude I also just copped the Shane’s
thanks man! just working on videos and freelance work. and nice. I liked them
you should do a review on the nike sb adversary premiums !!
Tom Penny Supra for the next review
Tyshawns adidas are amazing
With cupsole shoes you have less board feel
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Great video and straight to the point. I feel like cupsoles have way more padding as well. I’m not very good and only getting older so gotta go cupsole for me! Keep killing it man!
Oh yeah, and review the Etnies Veer, it's the first cup I've seen on a slip on and I want to know what's up with that.
You need to do a review on the (DVS Celsius) I haven’t seen anyone do one on TH-cam and I really want to see it👍
The biggest difference is a Cup sole shoe is built and can have more padding in the outsole, which makes it more stable protecting your ankle/knee joints, not to mention protecting the small bones and muscles in your feet . A vulc is cooked and the only way to add padding is with an insole and they lack real structure and support. . I've skated on and off over 30 years. Vulc shoes will destroy your feet over time and you end up standing on a thicker insole which isn't good on your arches. Now that is somewhat my opinion. . but my feet at this point can't handle a vulc shoe for more than 1 hour and a cup sole I can skate in all day at 41 years old.
Hate to say it, but you barely covered the differences between vulc and cupsoles and it wasn't worth uploading. There's way more to it than what flicks "better." Honestly this video felt like it was made by a new skater. I mean all of this as constructive criticism.
Vulcanized shoes are flexible, easy to break in, have great board feel, and are generally cheaper than cupsole shoes. The downsides of vulcanized shoes is that they don’t offer much protection and support, which is a problem for older skaters or skaters that enjoy big gaps. Vulcanized shoes will also lack a midsole (technically there is a midsole, but it's so thin it might as well not be there) and have a thin outsole, making the insole do all of the work of impact protection and support (which is why some shoes like Vans Pros have super thick insoles). Some people do not like this and tend to seek aftermarket insoles. Many skaters doing flatground/tech will prefer vulcanized shoes because of the board feel benefit.
Cupsole shoes offer better protection and support, as well as increased durability due to having more material. Cupsoles also have an insole, midsole, and outsole, which all work together to provide better protection and support that vulcanized shoes cannot. The downsides of cupsole shoes is they are stiff out of the box, they take a while to break in, they usually don’t offer great board feel, and they tend to cost more than vulcanized shoes.
Different companies can also offer thin or thick vulc/cupsole shoes. ie Vans offers thick vulc shoes while Nike offers thin vulc shoes, and Lakai offers thin cupsoles while DC offers thick cupsoles.
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VULCANIZED SHOES SUCK. Quality and vulcs rarely go hand in hand. It costs cheaper to make vulcs - that’s it.
Sick video Christian yeeewwww!
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These vids contain CRUCIAL SKATE SHOE CONTENT!!!!
Anyways, I love the vids Christian! Great skating and great content
Oh also, LEMON DROP....that is all 😀
Don't be bummed with 59% man mines 96% haha
Also, not that I heelflip well but it seems harder in a vulc and even a low shoe too
I agree I sucked at heels until I started skating a cup sole but my kick flicks are not as good dam it! Lemon drop bitches!!!!
my heel flips are better in vulcs and my kick flips are better in cup 🤷🏼♂️
vulc shoes have way softer rubber, the softer rubber has a more grippy flick but will wear down faster and be less solid.
Personally I love Vulcanized shoes for the boardfeel, I don't skate drops often
I'm about to get the tyshawns tho. Great vid👍
One of the best shoes of all time no kidding
Hey how were the tyshawns?
Lakai Atlantic? Nike Heritage? Kalis Vulcs? You might done one of those already, I'm not sure.
Yoyo love the vids and uh table tile, Chicken Fried Rice, Nike SB Dunks, Tomato, and uhhh lemon drop
Also could you do 101 kickflips in some running shoes?
Rode vans vulcs since 2000 but now at 31 years old, my feet are killed after a sesh. Constant heel bruises/toe bruises and planters problems. Recently picked up those Tiago nm1010s and my feet feel like I’m 16 again
Boardfeel- vulcs
Flick- vulcs
Durability- cups
Stability- cups
Impact- cups
Grip- vulcs
Consistency- cups
I actually am very bad at heel flips but much better at kickflips but I don't enjoy vulc soles🙃
Cupsole all the way. I longboard and consider having a shoe that has arch support and cushioning over board feel. More versatility. And you can wear it for everyday purposes not just skate
Cupsole.
Most vulcs feel like dress shoes. No heel or ankle support.
Cupsoles feel like actual athletic shoes 🤷♂️
Currently skating Vans Kyle Walker lace ups. The wafflecup feels very secure like a cupsole 👍
Cupsole shoes are more durable generally. Although there is some very durable vulc shoes, cupsole is more durable it is generally a thicker shoe
hey christianm its me Juel but I have a shoe you should review its a ishod wair shoe
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You spent more time asking people to subscribe to your channel.
Boardfeel, I feel like I have better boardfeel with vulc, but then again the only cupsoles I've skated are some thicc DC's from the 90s so that could just be me
Hey dude you should be raffling shoe pairs in your patreon acount. With that you'll be able to attract more people, for example myself. Nice day!!
I can agree Cupsole is just better for Heelflips but I dont know why
Yo my guy ! Have you skated the Vans Ultrarange I edition ? What Nike model is similar and what from Adidas ?
It's funny that the thing you most complain in every shoe review you fail to mention in this video, shock absorption is better in cupsole, it retains its shape for longer time (stiffness).
But i think you fail to mention that with the purpose to makes us comment about that... good marketing move.
With cupsole you lose some boardfeel, but you gain more consistent flick over time, even Chris Cole mention that in one of the Nine Club's.
I don't think it's the cupsole that helps with heelflips I think it's the extra padding around the collar that cupsole shoes usually have. Find a vulc shoe with that and it'll feel the same
hey christian.its me you,you should do review on dc penza shoe! green in black
What you need to do is stop talking and provide for your audience right now and growth will come (I’m subbed w notif’s on btw)
Im a heelflip guy and I've skated nothing but vulcs until now. Cupsoles are so good I feel like I wasted my youth lol
If your foot sits higher or lower on a shoe has nothing to do with the shoe being cupsole or vulc.This has to do only with the padding of the sole and the insole.
Usually your foot sits lower on vulcs as the sole is made from a thinner layer and usually the insoles are not that thick(there are exceptions of course).For that reason(your foot sitting lower) we say that with vulc we are having better boardfeel.
Cupsoles include usually more tech and indeed the foot sits higher than in vulcs.With cups you have better cushion and a bit less boardfeel although nowadays materials have improved a lot.
For the flick, in vulcs, due to this extra layer of thermoplastic material, your toes are sitting 2-3 cm back from the edge of the shoe and this can affect your foot positioning when doing flip tricks.With cupsoles, flip tricks are usually more in point as your toes are closer to the edge of the shoe and as a result there is a more accurate flick.
I hate the flick on vulcanised!
My foot is almost off of the board.
Cupsole great flick also heel flips are better
the Adidas Busenitz vulc 2 are great for heelflips if you like the feeling of vulcs.
Definitely prefer console over Vulc, Vulc shoes hurt my feet. Ps: Lemon Drop
Cup because if you know how to skate boardfeel doesn’t really matter
Cups feel shitty as fuck for a long time until they break in. Then they skate super good.a
Vulcs feel so fucking good out of the box until they inevitably start to get soggy. Then you might as well skate without shoes haha.
My kickflips are better when I skate vulcanize shoes
Review the fat globes like the old school ones!!!!
Board feel is better with Vulc's in my opinion ...
I typically enjoy my skating more in cupsoles even tho the flick is better with vulcs. Very particular on cupsoles tho the toe cap for me needs to be nice and narrow or kickflips are wack as hell
Im just gonna have to create multiple accounts and sub to this guy, them percentages bad.
Vulc is more flimsy and wears down faster, but feels broken in much faster, and have better board feel. Cupsoles are stiffer and take longer to break in but last longer and are better for large drops.
Stop begging for subs at the end of each vid it’s only going to repel them from doing so u gotta stop giving that begging I need you vibe and I love yo vids bro but you’re doing it wrong in that sense everything else I adore bro you’re killing it it may seem backwards but it’s human nature and fellas use this advice if you’re girl is wearing the pants in the relationship.🙏
Easy adidas city cup. Vulc front from dat flip and cup back for that impact protection
So is the vans Kyle walker a perfect mix since they are the waffle cup sole or whatever it’s called lol a mix of both
I don't get it. My heelflips SUCK in a cupsole shoe :D
Cupsoles for me. I feel like cupsoles have a more consistent flick and the padding and thickness of the shoe makes me feel more confident on my board. Vulcanized shoes have an amazing flick, but feel like it’s less consistent, but the thinness makes me feel scared to do anything not on flat lol
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vulc shoes are baked in an oven, which makes the rubber compound softer, so the material grips not and feels more broken in off the bat. where cup shoes are not and are given a thicker mid sole most of the time.
try skating air force 1’s i see a lot of people using those
Ill try some at some point.
He did
I’m skating some rn and they’re not bad. They were weird at first but that’s damn near any skate shoe
The outsole is a thicc’n
@@asokahanderson122 Don’t they have like zero board feel? Lol I’ve never skated them but I’ve used them just to walk around and I don’t think I’d enjoy skating them
I skate cupsoles because im 27 years old and need the support for my back and knees
Ur the best cuz I Watch your shoe reviews before I buy a shoe thanks ur a life saver.
If you do the same thing like this
love kick flips but dunks are my favorite skate shoe
I just bought a cup and a Vulc thanks I will see witch one I like better
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Could you review a pair of nike sb dunks if possible? Thanks
Which skate shoes have cupzole on Amazon
I wanna try cupsole but not sure which, only ever had vans hi
From my experience shoes with cup soles last longer anyoneelse ?
board feel - The bottom/outsole of vulcs is more flexible, meaning you're going to feel a lot more through the shoe.
Stiffness/break-in time - cup soles are all one piece and they're carved instead of melted into shape, so generally they're going to stay stiffer longer and take more time to break in (I say generally, because eS is ridiculously soft).
Yo Christian I don't wanna disrespect but is that title right?
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video 20 asking for a review of the gilbert crockett vans
I honestly cannot skate cup soles i got used to Vulc with the board feel and couldn’t let go lol
please do a review video on the louie lopez pro converse cons (the new ones that are about to drop as of the time of me commenting this)
I hate Vulc !
I’m okay with it mostly.
Fuck yeah. Mac Miller sample on the intro
cupsoles usuually last longer for me tbh