Wow. My service included reserve training cruises on Fletcher-class destroyers, and active assignments on LST's. What a different world! My active duty was in 1967-68 and included a deployment to Viet Nam.
Until I heard the captain describe the combinatory and the propulsion system I had no idea the Navy had such a capability! This seems almost revolutionary IMHO! Thanks for the informative video.
@@alexleanh What the fuck is your problem? Are you working for the Chinese government or something? There are 11 active duty Independence class LCS ships in the US Navy after those decommissioning. Three under construction, two fitting out, and another on order. That isn't even including the Freedom class variants.
The U.S. Navy would never allow footage to be released if it was classified or potentially a breach of security. I'm sure they look at every bit of the footage after anything is filmed on the ship.
The actual all out speed of an Independance clase ship.is 56 knots in up to 6ft seas. It can also out maneuver any ship its size but also ships half its size.
This...seems more like a large yacht, or perhaps a ferry, than it does a combat ship. Very little armament, and a flippin HUGE landing pad yet no hangar space? Also, did you see the defects in the hull at 1:58? If it looks like that new, I can't imagine these will have a very long service life.
@@alexleanh There are 11 active duty Independence class LCS ships and two that are fitting out. Three more under construction and another on order after that. If you're going to comment, at least try to not be full of shit.
@@alexleanh If you took 2 minutes to do some research you would know that there are currently over 11 active duty Independence Class Littoral Combat ships in the US Navy... right now.... not including the ones decommissioned. And there are more under constructions and on order. Idiot.
No.. The Independence class LCS is just one of the 8 possible contenders for the FFG(X) program. You've got Freedom class LCS, Italian/French FREMM frigate, British Type 26 frigate, Spanish Navantia, etc.. Unfortunately the Freedom class LCS is not among prime contenders. I would also like for this awesome looking Klingon "Bird of pray" ship to become a deadly frigate for the US Navy but it likely won't happen.
@@vegass04 Oh I see. I'd also like this to be the chosen one. Why would you think this won't likely be chosen? Because it doesn't have the traditional hull design and won't likely be up for full production like the Zumwalt?
Austal is designing a contender for FFG(X) based on an upsized Independence class design. The current Independence class is unable to meet most of the FFG(X) requirements, as it cannot fit mk41 VLS, or other components necessary for a capable multi-role combatant.
The ship does have mechanical back up for all the electronics does it not? What happens when some littoral native puts a old rocket into your bridge? Please remember the most reliable way of winning a gunfight is to shoot first. Oh, is this ship made of aluminium? Good luck.
Both LCS designs have come in for criticism, but I think these will be very useful ships when the Navy finalkly figures out what to do with them and arming them properly.
think they all getting put out to pasture, basically they will function like a coastgaurd ship and utility, while the USA are now purchasing the Freem design frigate for their navy
a sharp looking sea cutter, packs a pretty punch of fire power and moves out like an oversized speed boat. I bet nothing of any meaningful size can hold a candle to it in terms of maneuverability and speed. this certainly won't be outrun, but then again, it doesn't have to catch anything, that will be done by its weapon systems. :)
Made of aluminium... Just like our Falklands War frigates, where the upper hulls caught fire when hit by exocets. British type 26 s all-steel hulls withstsnd battle damage better.
It was an interesting idea, but ultimately flawed in the design process (what the Navy actually wanted), and some of the technology. I just hope that we can gain valuable lessons for future ship acquisition since these ships weren't so successful.
I worked on the San Diego shipyards with welders of these ships I been inside the zumwalt and it looks equally impressive on the inside However for some reason were dumping this design for more older warships like the USS Cowpens( ship that saved captain Phillip's in the movies) Which I think is stupid It's great were building dozens of more destroyers, which makes sense seeing we should build a smaller more powerful navy, albeit we should build more nuke powered Aircraft carriers, The Navy cant afford old tech Some of the welders waste government money Welding same ships for literally years The government needs to demand results Either get rid of these 80s era destroyers and help carriers or get left in the dust Our navy wont be number one if we continue funding mediocre maintenance
I really wish I could tour these ships and all of the ships honestly. I agree with demanding more for the US tax dollar. However, beyond that, I'm really not sure what you're talking about. The USS Cowpens is a Tico-class guided-missile cruiser with 21 active ships, more scheduled for decommissioning, the last commissioned in 1994, and is not being used as the basis for any new USN design. The two LCS classes were canceled from their original intended quantity of another 20-ships or so, and the FFG(X) Guided-Missile Frigate program was implemented specifically due to the two LCS-class designs, including this one, being overpriced at $400 to $500m per hull, and under-armed, with no VLS capability, minimal missile strike capability (Independence-class only, none for the Freedom-class), and determined to be too costly to swap mission modules so they simply don't do so. This is in addition to reports of these ships not being reliable enough to stay out on a full deployment, both LCS classes aren't armed with much firepower beyond short-ranged guns and self-defense. For example, this video shows the maximum firepower of both classes, with the 57mm, Harpoons (being replaced by the more capable NSM), autocannons, and 11-missile self-defense RAM launcher. During their shock tests before commissioning, one of the new Freedom-class LCS ships had to undergo 6-months of repairs for small leaks to the ship, even though they specifically underpowered the size of the water blast by 50% to avoid damage. Anyway, back to the Constellation-class frigate design, which was selected from six bids overall. The winning bid will include standard armament of 32 VLS tubes, with potentially 48 in an updated design/variant. That's in addition to the 57mm cannon, 16x NSM pods (long-range attack), and 21-cell RAM launcher for self-defense missiles. The VLS tubes alone make this better than the LCS-class designs, as they can host an array of SM-series missiles for anti-aircraft/anti-missile and surface defense, and additional NSMs or Tomahawks. The key is to consider the 32 VLS tubes as capable of being maximized in their loadout, due to ship defense and anti-ship capabilities having a baseline capability from the 21-cell RAM and 16x NSM canisters, respectively. They will be manufacturing 20 to possible 32 of these ships, and they cost more at about $950m per vessel, but they're also much more capable than the LCS classes and are based on a well-established and proven design from the primary Italian warship design-firm (a lot of EU export classes). They will be capable of both independent deployment and carrier support.
A mí no me convencen nada estos buques (patos de feria) ni en general esto de la guerra litoral... de hecho creo que con medios aeronavales alejados de ese entorno litoral pueden neutralizar con sus alas embarcadas a cualquier embarcación de superficie desplegada en esos entornos sin necesidad de exponer a este tipo buques... Y es que para la guerra litoral nada como baterías de SAM y antibuque basados en tierra, submarinos costeros, minas inteligentes y medios aéreos tripulados y no tripulados para cubrir todos los aspectos de la guerra aérea. Saludos
This ship has a great design...but it is poorly armed....it needs more missiles, TORPEDOES, CIWS and should have less space for the helipad....u must not rely too much for the saberhawk to counduct A.S.W....one hypersonic missile..is what it takes..to sink this ship
I'm not going to lie the LCS program is a great idea I hope it succeeds, I wish it a great career, The MIC military Industrial Comple need to stop cramming bullshit components into weapon systems witch only make it less combat-capable
Pretty cool ship but it's like listening to Orwell's Newspeak - all this corporate talk of death is a bit off putting. The enemy will still be a human after all,... though i guess i'd be not be thinking that if the enemy was hurling missiles at me. Save the remorse for later, eh? The ptsd and the charity-funded mental health care when you quit the services. Phew, i realise i sound glass half empty here.
Probably one of the most ridiculous warship concepts ever built. Surely someone should have worked out that high speed and heavy seas don't mix? Even in so called littoral seas there is bad weather. Their lack of seaworthiness in bad weather seriously downgraded their battle effectiveness. and mobility. A massive amount of money and resources have been wasted on this class particularly now most of the vessels in the class have had to be cancelled.
id love to be bought for my country but at the 1/5th, maybe 1/6th of the price, fill their hungars with apache attack helicopters and acc/on for 100 marines and it will make the best littoral ships ever. air , ASW protection can be done by biger ships (frigates, destryers) and theyy can be the long arm of every navy with long coastline and many islands like Greece. H arpoon missiles is a great add on, maybe one autonomus air to air system or a CIWS could complete the package. the great landing area of this ship is a great advantage that many other assets can be added on
we on asian country have lattest stealth lcs ships with latest china technologies.same like alien tech hope can bite usa aircraf carrier when war start.
I’d say it was not designed for the use the US planned to use it for. However, that does not mean they are useless at all. For example, in the Baltic Sea, these would be pretty awesome. Much less high seas, water not as salt, lots of islands and canals that need helicopters and submarine deterrent capabilities. Sell them to the Baltic countries.
I remember so many years ago, when I was very young, I got to go on this ship in person with my dad. One of the best memories I ever had
Thank you for the tour Captain, God bless you, your sailors, and USS Coronado.
You bet ....merica
It's 2022
@@jasbjor6724 Anno Domini
Wow. My service included reserve training cruises on Fletcher-class destroyers, and active assignments on LST's. What a different world! My active duty was in 1967-68 and included a deployment to Viet Nam.
Until I heard the captain describe the combinatory and the propulsion system I had no idea the Navy had such a capability! This seems almost revolutionary IMHO! Thanks for the informative video.
@@alexleanh What the fuck is your problem? Are you working for the Chinese government or something?
There are 11 active duty Independence class LCS ships in the US Navy after those decommissioning. Three under construction, two fitting out, and another on order.
That isn't even including the Freedom class variants.
Am I supposed to be watching this? I love this stuff - but this is a highly advanced ship!
The U.S. Navy would never allow footage to be released if it was classified or potentially a breach of security. I'm sure they look at every bit of the footage after anything is filmed on the ship.
57 mm is a great gun. Rounds in many variations, direct, air burst, etc. rounds can be mixed
Well look at that. It even has a tennis court on the back of it
lol it's a helipad. but i get the joke
@@alexleanh bruh chill lol
@@alexleanh ?
Awesome warship, saw this ship in Cartigena, Columbia. Spoke with a crewmember,
The actual all out speed of an Independance clase ship.is 56 knots in up to 6ft seas. It can also out maneuver any ship its size but also ships half its size.
That is really fast!
Its light because it's made of aluminum.. I've been working on this ship for the last 3 months
This...seems more like a large yacht, or perhaps a ferry, than it does a combat ship. Very little armament, and a flippin HUGE landing pad yet no hangar space? Also, did you see the defects in the hull at 1:58? If it looks like that new, I can't imagine these will have a very long service life.
Did he say organically?
Yes, it is a term from military science.
Thank You. This was very interesting and enlightening. Enjoyed it very much.
Awesome ship built by an awesome team in Mobile Alabama.
not a word usually associated, outside of marinette and mobile, with any LCS.
@@alexleanh There are 11 active duty Independence class LCS ships and two that are fitting out. Three more under construction and another on order after that.
If you're going to comment, at least try to not be full of shit.
@@alexleanh If you took 2 minutes to do some research you would know that there are currently over 11 active duty Independence Class Littoral Combat ships in the US Navy... right now.... not including the ones decommissioned.
And there are more under constructions and on order.
Idiot.
Is this one of the ones that are being decommissioned because of aluminum hull issues?
Combination of CIC/FIRE CONTROL? Sounds good.
Is it true the the future frigate of the US navy (FFG(X)) will ba based on this Independence class?
No.. The Independence class LCS is just one of the 8 possible contenders for the FFG(X) program. You've got Freedom class LCS, Italian/French FREMM frigate, British Type 26 frigate, Spanish Navantia, etc.. Unfortunately the Freedom class LCS is not among prime contenders. I would also like for this awesome looking Klingon "Bird of pray" ship to become a deadly frigate for the US Navy but it likely won't happen.
@@vegass04 Oh I see. I'd also like this to be the chosen one. Why would you think this won't likely be chosen? Because it doesn't have the traditional hull design and won't likely be up for full production like the Zumwalt?
vegass04 pretty sure the Independence has won the FFG(X) program, some are being refitted to FF weapons loadout and others are being built as a FF
Austal is designing a contender for FFG(X) based on an upsized Independence class design. The current Independence class is unable to meet most of the FFG(X) requirements, as it cannot fit mk41 VLS, or other components necessary for a capable multi-role combatant.
The ship does have mechanical back up for all the electronics does it not? What happens when some littoral native puts a old rocket into your bridge? Please remember the most reliable way of winning a gunfight is to shoot first.
Oh, is this ship made of aluminium? Good luck.
@Hi Greg Warner, How are you doing
Well done!
Both LCS designs have come in for criticism, but I think these will be very useful ships when the Navy finalkly figures out what to do with them and arming them properly.
think they all getting put out to pasture, basically they will function like a coastgaurd ship and utility, while the USA are now purchasing the Freem design frigate for their navy
Good tour.
Beautiful looking ship ., 👍👍
a sharp looking sea cutter, packs a pretty punch of fire power and moves out like an oversized speed boat. I bet nothing of any meaningful size can hold a candle to it in terms of maneuverability and speed. this certainly won't be outrun, but then again, it doesn't have to catch anything, that will be done by its weapon systems. :)
Why did you say the name of the ship at the beginning of the video?
Boy that RC chopper is a quantum jump from the old DASH
Can somebody please tell me why the Coronado is not classified as a Corvette
Is it made from some type of Zinc material ? The photo makes it look like corroded zinc.
It's all aluminum.. we are working on it right now in Portland oregon
@Hello Jack, How are you doing?
Does each package require different personal that's transported in and out ?
The Bofors is nice
I bet those ships are good duty stations.
It looks like torpedoes can just drop down between the three hulls
Glad there adding nsm missiles to these .
Were are the missiles
Air bust shells would be cool
was stationed on AGF-11 IN 1980 AS STAFF to commander middle east force. was on board when Iran released our
hostages.
Where's the Navy warship? All I see is an aluminum yacht
Point of fact..... this ship is stationed just across the bay... from Coronado.....
Made of aluminium... Just like our Falklands War frigates, where the upper hulls caught fire when hit by exocets. British type 26 s all-steel hulls withstsnd battle damage better.
That tour guy had a neat accent
GO NAVY!
I'm sad that they're not able to accommodate an Osprey landing.
Appears to be lacking self defence and attack capability. Subsonic harpoon missiles went out with the spitfire.
Can it take a hit?
Its designed by incat Australia, one of their fast ferries took a silkworm ASM off yemen and stayed afloat.
It's made of all aluminium so it's not gonna take too many hits for sure
Yeah! GO CORONADO!!!!
Nice....
Very nice.
The interviewer head nodding tho 💀
I need ship to sustain there needs like food! etc!
"...distribute lethality..." Classic Navy speak!
Take a shot every time he says uh
Not until you get alchohol poisoning. Lol
SHOW THE CIC YO!!!!!
It was an interesting idea, but ultimately flawed in the design process (what the Navy actually wanted), and some of the technology. I just hope that we can gain valuable lessons for future ship acquisition since these ships weren't so successful.
designed and built by Australia 👍🏼
Aaron Robertson designed by Australia built in Alabama
Don't worry You use an austrian Rifle A belgian MG A canadian IFV an american MBT ;)
DruidicRifleman the new Lithgow rifle is Australian designed and made 🙂
@@Stoicijnsestemmen A licence Built Copy of the Styr AUG Designed in Austria. in fact it's known as the Austeyr.
DruidicRifleman that’s the old rifle the f88 Austeyer the new f90 is not a licence built Steyer, Lithgow went out in their own
I wish it had a cooler paint scheme.
dont need paint if you have a cloaking device
P4P KING it cant cloak, it only has stealth shapes
@@spamlord7570 you wouldnt even know, because you cant see it when it DOES cloak..........check maaaaate
these Ships are ideal for Escort missions through the Red Sea, and the Straight of Hormuz
Its is designed so there is no reflection at all . Sun light does not reflect and lights do not reflect also less radar reflection
2:01 Jesus Christ look at that! You want a cheap boat, you can have it. But that doesn't mean the BILL will be cheap!
greenseaships the holes
Thanhyou is the best thing to do is to get the best of you
Independence class LCSs'. Why the United States Navy should vet their ship design personel better.
@Hello Patrick Aalfs, How are you doing?
Compare to singapore's Littoral mission vessel i think sg has a better ship to conduct mission and configure its modules easily.
Stop disclosing everything. The enemies are watching.
hi T C T C...
yeaa that right
Iran is getting their navy ready.
Navy trying to force these frigates into guided cruiser service.
All to be kept in San Diego for "training" due to lack of capability and build quality.
Do they ever speak English, or only "Navy" ?
Uh.. only the first ships of the class.
I worked on the San Diego shipyards with welders of these ships
I been inside the zumwalt and it looks equally impressive on the inside
However for some reason were dumping this design for more older warships like the USS Cowpens( ship that saved captain Phillip's in the movies)
Which I think is stupid
It's great were building dozens of more destroyers, which makes sense seeing we should build a smaller more powerful navy, albeit we should build more nuke powered Aircraft carriers,
The Navy cant afford old tech
Some of the welders waste government money
Welding same ships for literally years
The government needs to demand results
Either get rid of these 80s era destroyers and help carriers or get left in the dust
Our navy wont be number one if we continue funding mediocre maintenance
I really wish I could tour these ships and all of the ships honestly. I agree with demanding more for the US tax dollar. However, beyond that, I'm really not sure what you're talking about. The USS Cowpens is a Tico-class guided-missile cruiser with 21 active ships, more scheduled for decommissioning, the last commissioned in 1994, and is not being used as the basis for any new USN design.
The two LCS classes were canceled from their original intended quantity of another 20-ships or so, and the FFG(X) Guided-Missile Frigate program was implemented specifically due to the two LCS-class designs, including this one, being overpriced at $400 to $500m per hull, and under-armed, with no VLS capability, minimal missile strike capability (Independence-class only, none for the Freedom-class), and determined to be too costly to swap mission modules so they simply don't do so. This is in addition to reports of these ships not being reliable enough to stay out on a full deployment, both LCS classes aren't armed with much firepower beyond short-ranged guns and self-defense. For example, this video shows the maximum firepower of both classes, with the 57mm, Harpoons (being replaced by the more capable NSM), autocannons, and 11-missile self-defense RAM launcher. During their shock tests before commissioning, one of the new Freedom-class LCS ships had to undergo 6-months of repairs for small leaks to the ship, even though they specifically underpowered the size of the water blast by 50% to avoid damage.
Anyway, back to the Constellation-class frigate design, which was selected from six bids overall. The winning bid will include standard armament of 32 VLS tubes, with potentially 48 in an updated design/variant. That's in addition to the 57mm cannon, 16x NSM pods (long-range attack), and 21-cell RAM launcher for self-defense missiles. The VLS tubes alone make this better than the LCS-class designs, as they can host an array of SM-series missiles for anti-aircraft/anti-missile and surface defense, and additional NSMs or Tomahawks. The key is to consider the 32 VLS tubes as capable of being maximized in their loadout, due to ship defense and anti-ship capabilities having a baseline capability from the 21-cell RAM and 16x NSM canisters, respectively. They will be manufacturing 20 to possible 32 of these ships, and they cost more at about $950m per vessel, but they're also much more capable than the LCS classes and are based on a well-established and proven design from the primary Italian warship design-firm (a lot of EU export classes). They will be capable of both independent deployment and carrier support.
Awesome, I'm sure the Iranians are noting the capabilites. Not that it will help... 😉 (and no, I have no idea if these are in the Arabian Gulf..)
@Hi Bill Seidel, How are you doing?
Man it could have been so much more, but at its current state it's a 550 million dollar autocannon platform...
It has the potential to be an extremely useful anti-submarine warfare platform.
hi D...
why complain about currency in here comment...
not important currency
Daedalus you do realize it can be fitted with 32 VLS cells?
Yada yada future politician
This beauty could swamp some of those cabin cruisers the Iran Navy uses...
Good looking ship but lack the firepower.
Norman Agbas it’s definitely has massive fire power. Doors open weapon shoots out duh moron . Hidden systems
They are not STUPID to disclose everything on video. Let Russia, China and Iran figure it out.
Why point them in the right direction?
Alumin
Lcs22numbetone.
Ontheword.
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Hypersonic missiles...AND INTELLIGENT TORPEDOES..will end this man's career
We need to feed theme free!.
Please, oh please don't stick the ship on autopilot. YOu guys are crashing into huge oil tankers with sailors at helm.
I’ve got an 18 foot Glastron with a jet Drive and it’s pretty much the same thing as that ship. Lol.
A mí no me convencen nada estos buques (patos de feria) ni en general esto de la guerra litoral... de hecho creo que con medios aeronavales alejados de ese entorno litoral pueden neutralizar con sus alas embarcadas a cualquier embarcación de superficie desplegada en esos entornos sin necesidad de exponer a este tipo buques...
Y es que para la guerra litoral nada como baterías de SAM y antibuque basados en tierra, submarinos costeros, minas inteligentes y medios aéreos tripulados y no tripulados para cubrir todos los aspectos de la guerra aérea.
Saludos
Build to kill
This ship has a great design...but it is poorly armed....it needs more missiles, TORPEDOES, CIWS and should have less space for the helipad....u must not rely too much for the saberhawk to counduct A.S.W....one hypersonic missile..is what it takes..to sink this ship
Looks good but flaky weapon systems
victor forzani you dont even see the weapons moron. The weapons systems are hidden in the ship. Doors open weapons shot moron
I'm not going to lie the LCS program is a great idea I hope it succeeds, I wish it a great career, The MIC military Industrial Comple need to stop cramming bullshit components into weapon systems witch only make it less combat-capable
Blah blah blah, anyways show the speaker not the product
Nice word salad!
Mtu
Mobile Al.
WHEN WILL YOU LEARN AMERICA, ALWAYS WITH THE SMALL ARMS
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nice ship...
but dont have to show around video in this ship...
enemy countrys can watchs this ship and plans to revenge or destroy...
dont do that
No they can not.
They havent seen nothing moron
Google: Little Crappy Ship
bikebrains I did. I need a laugh, thank you.
Get that Russian OFF the ship!! He is certainly a SPY!!
@Hello Edward L, How are you doing?
Pretty cool ship but it's like listening to Orwell's Newspeak - all this corporate talk of death is a bit off putting. The enemy will still be a human after all,... though i guess i'd be not be thinking that if the enemy was hurling missiles at me. Save the remorse for later, eh? The ptsd and the charity-funded mental health care when you quit the services.
Phew, i realise i sound glass half empty here.
He is talking way too fast!!
@Hello Bob Johnson, How are you doing?
gas turbins lol
Funny? The destroyer I served on had 4 gas turbines, essentially DC10 jet engines. It could kick up a 20' rooster tail at flank speed.
@@edwardgucker5790 And don't that look awsome..
Frigate
This thing call boat is piece shit. Need turn this into razorblades as soon as possible.
are they as good as is written about them? I am not impressed can they be sunk by one ZIRCON MISSILE? boring. sleepZZZZZZZZZZZ
Waste taxpayer's money should never leave the US.
The Navy is building some seriously ugly ships.
Probably one of the most ridiculous warship concepts ever built. Surely someone should have worked out that high speed and heavy seas don't mix? Even in so called littoral seas there is bad weather. Their lack of seaworthiness in bad weather seriously downgraded their battle effectiveness. and mobility. A massive amount of money and resources have been wasted on this class particularly now most of the vessels in the class have had to be cancelled.
id love to be bought for my country but at the 1/5th, maybe 1/6th of the price, fill their hungars with apache attack helicopters and acc/on for 100 marines and it will make the best littoral ships ever. air , ASW protection can be done by biger ships (frigates, destryers) and theyy can be the long arm of every navy with long coastline and many islands like Greece. H arpoon missiles is a great add on, maybe one autonomus air to air system or a CIWS could complete the package. the great landing area of this ship is a great advantage that many other assets can be added on
Its a trimaran, cant get more stable, incat Australia designed this, one of their commercial ferries took a silkworm ASM off yemen and stayed afloat.
UKExpat obviously you dont know as much as you think. By far wrong haha moron
Your opinion is worth less then a us penny toothless scum bag. Try minding your own damn business
Shame they couldn't have gotten someone with better knowledge to do this video.
Better then The Captain/Skipper of the Ship?
Possibly the most pointless class of ship ever.
Loose lip sink ships...sssssh!!
we on asian country have lattest stealth lcs ships with latest china technologies.same like alien tech hope can bite usa aircraf carrier when war start.
These things turned out to be garbage, didn't they?
I don't know what the USN was thinking when they commissioned a useless Australian design.
I’d say it was not designed for the use the US planned to use it for. However, that does not mean they are useless at all. For example, in the Baltic Sea, these would be pretty awesome. Much less high seas, water not as salt, lots of islands and canals that need helicopters and submarine deterrent capabilities. Sell them to the Baltic countries.