You did a great job on reviewing these ipads. You are the only one of many that mentioned the lip on the keyboard to protect the screen (even jerryrigeverything didn’t mention that). Also the only one to mention how the pencil is thicker than the other Pros as well. I appreciate the thorough first-impression review. Subbed.
I’m glad I was able to share some new information! That’s always my goal! Thanks for letting me know that. Let me know if there’s anything I should look into.
Great video, thanks! Kind of smart for them to set the backlight to only go on when it's dark. I have a silver laptop with backlighting that's always on and you CANNOT see the key letters at all unless it's dark or you put your face directly over it. They should have at least changed the backlight color to anything but white and that would help too. I ordered the 2tb, 13" wifi and cell, with nano glass. It's mainly for aviation as a Kneeboard for me and even if there's overcast outside as a pilot you'll be above it most of the time, haha. One note to student pilots to airline pilots is if you get the cell data version there's a hardware upgrade too. It is the only model with the actual GPS chip. Most pilots of general aviation will have an ABS-B for weather and traffic but even using Foreflight an internet connection is needed for updating weather imagery, plus it's great to be able to download updates if you've been grounded for a while.
I've had mine for a few days now. Personally, I HATE ipad, but the apps I need for music and aviation are apple only. Can't fix no thumbnails on videos (I have about 80 black) and can't even have different sorting options to where the NAMES ARE UNDER THE VIDEOS! Hahaha, but not haha, they couldn't be more behind pc and android if they tried. Just installed a tesla screen in my car and anyone that has iphone cries and cries (because it really just doesn't work because apple is useless with tech). I could list a million issues, but also am a pc tech and prefer to micromanage my folder structure and files, where apple is too afraid to let you do anything. Okay, so now that you see my feelings toward them, I now have to say that the nano screen is far better than any video has been able to show. This particular tuber is 1st class all the way and all of his videos helped me decide on what I went with. Probably the only non artist that prefers the nano. The "artists" make people believe that if they're not an artist, they should go for the gloss. To best explain it, it's exactly what I hope it would be and more in how the graphics don't seem to be behind glass. They seem to be right there on top. I see the attraction for the gloss. My 1st gen is, but this is so much better. I know, comparing 1st gen to this? Well, guess what, the PPI is the same. Most visuals, other than brightness, I can set up to be a fair comparison, but again, the glassy screen seems to have the graphics deep under the glass whereas the nano is almost as if it's a scratch and sniff. A few people have been blown away by mine that have said they watched a lot of videos and it just didn't look that good. If apple could grow up and hire people to make a good ios and stop trying to live in the 1800's, they wouldn't go bankrupt again and again, and yes, they will again because they're horrible. I know, you apple peops will argue what you're missing, but I've never seen so many useless apps on an OS due to the platform only as I do with apple. Linux even is far superior and I'm laughing as I type that because it's so very true.. Okay, sorry for the rant, but it's sickens me to have spent $2700 total cost on just my ipad and have it less useful than the android apps I created in a rush over a decade ago.
Ok, so I’m trying to find the actual comment to me that’s buried in this Anti-Apple rant. For the record, the first video I made on this channel was reviewing an E-Ink device running a modified version of Android, so not sure if this is the right place to express Apple hate, but ok. I think I understood correctly and you complimented me for how I showed the nano-texture screen and I’m very thankful for that and very glad that my videos was able to help you to decide. I too find some things limiting about iPadOS and would love to see more freedom especially when it comes to the file management. However, there is just one thing I’d disagree with, and that’s the app situation. Yes, some companies still treat the iPad as a big iPhone and their apps reflect that and I find that annoying, but you even said yourself that you need certain apps that only is on the Apple platform so clearly there are some app advantages here. I’m never against people advocating that Apple and app developers treat the iPad more seriously with more full features apps and more desktop functionality, but I don’t think it’s completely awful and there is still apps that are amazing and I wouldn’t want to live without that no other platform has. Thanks for your comment and thanks again for appreciating my take on the nano-texture!
Yes, it was meant as a compliment. Didn't proof read to see how disjunct my words were. I apologize for the rant on your video. I spent the last few days joining various forums, groups etc to do what should be simple and honestly just came here to say how blown away I am on the screen. I should have come here first, but instead got consumed with a post I read just before.
Oh yeah no worries, I was honestly just impressed with how much was written😂 but seriously thanks for the compliment and I completely agree with the screen! Do you use the Apple Pencil with it at all or do you not really have a need for that?
What’s your thought on the screen protector? As you mentioned it gave a lot more glare and reflection, less traction for the pencil. But it’s easier to keep it clean.
Yeah slightly. The tempered glass isn’t a whole lot better than standard glass as far as keeping it clean. I did make a video on screen protectors for the nano texture so definitely check that out, and I’m going to be doing for on screen protector for the standard glass soon! So that’s all I’ll say for now, but more to come!
You just earned a new subscriber. This was a very thorough review and comparison. The best one I’ve seen yet. Looking forward to seeing your next video.
I would agree except the weird thing is that at the bottom of Apple’s website where they keep the fine print, the say that the 13” iPad Pro is 13” and the 11” is technically 11.1” and that the 13” iPad Air is actually 12.9”. So since they specified the exact differences for the other one, it would seem that it is just ever so slightly bigger as far as the display goes
No, it’s not. I measured my wife’s against my M2 (because my 13” with nano hasn’t come in yet). The screen is 1/16” longer in the long dimension and almost that in the short dimension. That does come out to be a tenth inch longer on the diagonal. That can’t easily be measured because of the rounded corners, but I did the math and it works out to 13”. The borders are a bit smaller.
That’s kinda what I was wondering as well, I’ll probably test a few different ones, I don’t want my screen protector to ruin the whole purpose of the nano texture display
Thank you very much for your comparison and you made good Videos plans so that we can see the difference between the two iPads. Bravo and thank you again.
@@Graf-XTechReviews I have an iPad Pro 2018 6 years ago are you recommend me the iPad Pro 11 inch oled or I switch to an iPad Pro M2 because I do photo editing I take notes, consultation of e-mail content, movie. And if possible, I would like you to test us outside in full sun and test movies and we say that the quality is better, compared to the iPad Air or iPad M2 pro screen thank you for the service.
Yes absolutely! I really want to test out the screen when in sunlight. Right now I’m in poring rain so I can’t, but when the sun comes out, that’s my plan!
Well, right now the plan is that I will be keeping the 11” and my business partner will take the 13” once I’ve reviewed it enough. If that changes I’ll make a video explaining why I returned the 11”
I still haven’t decided which size to buy 😅. I'm going to use it mostly to write notes, but I also want to watch some series when I'm in bed before going to sleep. Another question I have is that when the iPad Pro is on the Magic Keyboard, it seems uncomfortable to use the Apple Pencil and write notes. Will I need to have two covers, the Magic Keyboard and another cover for a better writing angle? It seems like I would have to remove the iPad from the Magic Keyboard to write comfortably with the Apple Pencil, but that would mean losing some protection. Additionally, I'm worried that removing the iPad frequently could scratch the camera lens or make the iPad unstable due to the camera bump. I think Apple should design the Magic Keyboard to provide better angles for using the Apple Pencil.
I had the same problem when deciding for myself! Luckily, my business partner wanted one as well so I can now try both sizes. In my heart, I’m an 11” guy and I love how portable that design is and it feels more notebook sizes. But I also love some of the functionalities of the larger iPad screen, so it’s a hard call. I will be doing more in depth comparisons between these two sizes. I also completely agree with your thoughts about the Magic Keyboard. I love the redesign and it’s definitely better, but I do wish it accommodated the Apple Pencil better. With the old keyboard I never had a problem the lens being scratched even when removing it a lot, but I will keep you updated if that remains true. I would probably recommend getting a magnetic folio case for times you don’t want the keyboard and that way your iPad is better protected. Great feedback! Thanks!
I have the 11 and didn't realise its way more letterbox than any other ipad ive had. feels weird. the 13 is virtually same width as the 11 so i may swap. Also I have some green shift in the whites and here at @10:25 you can see really different colours in the whites. These oleds may not be so great after all!
I love nano texture but in Apple Store they warmed me that s very very fragile !! I love the paper feeling but was too stressed to have problem on it. Also it s a little blurry about text etc
Yeah that’s totally fair! So far I haven’t had any fragility problems or times where the text seem blurry but I will keep everyone posted as I explore it long term
I don’t get the unboxing thing. Yes, it’s sort of fun when I’m doing it myself. But really, there are only so many that one can see before it gets tiring.
Yeah I actually agree. When I made it there weren’t too many out yet and I know some people enjoy them, but also, they are not for everyone, hopefully there was enough other content in there so it was still worth the watch! Otherwise I have another video on the iPads out and plenty more on the way!
I see a pretty big difference with how it deflects glare, but I’m not sure how well that’s getting across on the video. I have a way more in depth screen comparison video coming out that should hopefully show the differences better.
I think the 11” is perfect for those wanting something even more portable, but if your biggest focus is typing on the new Magic Keyboard then the 13” size will be more comfortable
You know that’s fair!😂 although I barely got the budget for my own! But for real some of the older models have gotten a lot cheaper and they are still really good! If you’re on a tight budget they might be worth the look!
Don't get hoped the fact is apple is behind like 1920 in the game of technology and they will always be sad to say probably when samsung dex makes applications like logic and final cut apple will be done and this will happen because apple doesn't invent anything new they copy and add a spin to it 😉 save your money apple is a scam m1 m2 m3 m4 now what exactly are you paying for a slightly faster ? You can just save your money this why I didn't buy a Mac studio because of apples 😒 constantly changing so why buy anything when it is going to be absolutely out dated from the same manufacturer and it will be caped for the older models to make sure that you buy a new system and apps created that won't work with the pervious version of the hardware don't make the same mistakes of throwing your money away we need a real reason to justify why is anyone spending money with this company it time to wake up
Well, I very much appreciate your feedback, although I disagree about Apple. And even though they are upgrading their processors regularly (which is not that much more frequently than Samsung) I have an iPhone 7+ that I no longer use just because I do this channel, but it is still fully functional and has better battery life then some modern phones. That’s like 8 years of support. I think that’s money well spent. But thanks again for your opinion!
Thanks for your opinion, I appreciate the incorrectness in it and I don’t care if you call me fanboy because I don’t even own a single Apple items. I like my Google Pixel.
@@Graf-XTechReviews it's not the way it's wasteful down right littering and yes apple is not making new software any more they are incapable of doing its like watching a fight they are definitely going to lose every time every year at least you got logic subscription & Final Cut Pro and the updated is Ai and stem separation late to the party is always and with mediocre technology
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I bought 13 inch M4 iPad 512 GB oy Wi-Fi with glossy finish, and I love it over nano texture. Colour pop-up very nicely on glossy over nano texture.
Thanks for sharing! Glad you like it! Personally I don’t see the colors popping any less on nano-texture, but I’m glad it works for you!
You did a great job on reviewing these ipads. You are the only one of many that mentioned the lip on the keyboard to protect the screen (even jerryrigeverything didn’t mention that). Also the only one to mention how the pencil is thicker than the other Pros as well. I appreciate the thorough first-impression review. Subbed.
I’m glad I was able to share some new information! That’s always my goal! Thanks for letting me know that. Let me know if there’s anything I should look into.
Great video, thanks!
Kind of smart for them to set the backlight to only go on when it's dark. I have a silver laptop with backlighting that's always on and you CANNOT see the key letters at all unless it's dark or you put your face directly over it. They should have at least changed the backlight color to anything but white and that would help too.
I ordered the 2tb, 13" wifi and cell, with nano glass. It's mainly for aviation as a Kneeboard for me and even if there's overcast outside as a pilot you'll be above it most of the time, haha.
One note to student pilots to airline pilots is if you get the cell data version there's a hardware upgrade too. It is the only model with the actual GPS chip. Most pilots of general aviation will have an ABS-B for weather and traffic but even using Foreflight an internet connection is needed for updating weather imagery, plus it's great to be able to download updates if you've been grounded for a while.
That’s a great use case! Thanks for sharing that! I have no experience with piloting at all, but that was awesome to hear about!
I am so glad you like the nano texture. I ordered the 13” and I look forward to it.
Awesome! Yeah so far I haven’t seen very many downsides. So as long as that stays true then I love it!
I've had mine for a few days now. Personally, I HATE ipad, but the apps I need for music and aviation are apple only. Can't fix no thumbnails on videos (I have about 80 black) and can't even have different sorting options to where the NAMES ARE UNDER THE VIDEOS! Hahaha, but not haha, they couldn't be more behind pc and android if they tried. Just installed a tesla screen in my car and anyone that has iphone cries and cries (because it really just doesn't work because apple is useless with tech). I could list a million issues, but also am a pc tech and prefer to micromanage my folder structure and files, where apple is too afraid to let you do anything.
Okay, so now that you see my feelings toward them, I now have to say that the nano screen is far better than any video has been able to show. This particular tuber is 1st class all the way and all of his videos helped me decide on what I went with. Probably the only non artist that prefers the nano. The "artists" make people believe that if they're not an artist, they should go for the gloss. To best explain it, it's exactly what I hope it would be and more in how the graphics don't seem to be behind glass. They seem to be right there on top. I see the attraction for the gloss. My 1st gen is, but this is so much better. I know, comparing 1st gen to this? Well, guess what, the PPI is the same. Most visuals, other than brightness, I can set up to be a fair comparison, but again, the glassy screen seems to have the graphics deep under the glass whereas the nano is almost as if it's a scratch and sniff. A few people have been blown away by mine that have said they watched a lot of videos and it just didn't look that good. If apple could grow up and hire people to make a good ios and stop trying to live in the 1800's, they wouldn't go bankrupt again and again, and yes, they will again because they're horrible. I know, you apple peops will argue what you're missing, but I've never seen so many useless apps on an OS due to the platform only as I do with apple. Linux even is far superior and I'm laughing as I type that because it's so very true.. Okay, sorry for the rant, but it's sickens me to have spent $2700 total cost on just my ipad and have it less useful than the android apps I created in a rush over a decade ago.
Ok, so I’m trying to find the actual comment to me that’s buried in this Anti-Apple rant. For the record, the first video I made on this channel was reviewing an E-Ink device running a modified version of Android, so not sure if this is the right place to express Apple hate, but ok. I think I understood correctly and you complimented me for how I showed the nano-texture screen and I’m very thankful for that and very glad that my videos was able to help you to decide. I too find some things limiting about iPadOS and would love to see more freedom especially when it comes to the file management. However, there is just one thing I’d disagree with, and that’s the app situation. Yes, some companies still treat the iPad as a big iPhone and their apps reflect that and I find that annoying, but you even said yourself that you need certain apps that only is on the Apple platform so clearly there are some app advantages here. I’m never against people advocating that Apple and app developers treat the iPad more seriously with more full features apps and more desktop functionality, but I don’t think it’s completely awful and there is still apps that are amazing and I wouldn’t want to live without that no other platform has. Thanks for your comment and thanks again for appreciating my take on the nano-texture!
Yes, it was meant as a compliment. Didn't proof read to see how disjunct my words were. I apologize for the rant on your video. I spent the last few days joining various forums, groups etc to do what should be simple and honestly just came here to say how blown away I am on the screen. I should have come here first, but instead got consumed with a post I read just before.
Oh yeah no worries, I was honestly just impressed with how much was written😂 but seriously thanks for the compliment and I completely agree with the screen! Do you use the Apple Pencil with it at all or do you not really have a need for that?
What’s your thought on the screen protector? As you mentioned it gave a lot more glare and reflection, less traction for the pencil. But it’s easier to keep it clean.
Yeah slightly. The tempered glass isn’t a whole lot better than standard glass as far as keeping it clean. I did make a video on screen protectors for the nano texture so definitely check that out, and I’m going to be doing for on screen protector for the standard glass soon! So that’s all I’ll say for now, but more to come!
@@Graf-XTechReviews Looking forwared to it!
Great unboxing! 11" with nano texture will be the best ebook reader ever!
Yeah that’s a great way to use that! I’ll be testing that out! Thanks for the feedback!
You just earned a new subscriber. This was a very thorough review and comparison. The best one I’ve seen yet. Looking forward to seeing your next video.
Thank you! I’m glad this video was very informative to you! I do have some more iPad Pro videos now and I’m continuing to make more as well!
You’ll have to bring that over tomorrow
We’ll see 😉
I think the iPad Pro 13 actually has 12,9inches too, it has the exact same dimensions as my old iPad Pro 12,9.
I would agree except the weird thing is that at the bottom of Apple’s website where they keep the fine print, the say that the 13” iPad Pro is 13” and the 11” is technically 11.1” and that the 13” iPad Air is actually 12.9”. So since they specified the exact differences for the other one, it would seem that it is just ever so slightly bigger as far as the display goes
No, it’s not. I measured my wife’s against my M2 (because my 13” with nano hasn’t come in yet). The screen is 1/16” longer in the long dimension and almost that in the short dimension. That does come out to be a tenth inch longer on the diagonal. That can’t easily be measured because of the rounded corners, but I did the math and it works out to 13”. The borders are a bit smaller.
@@melgrossthank you, I have both iPads here, and didn’t find any difference at first. But thank you for your input :)
@@Graf-XTechReviewsthank you 😊 I should have checked the Apple Store before typing what I felt after seeing both iPads side by side :)
the best channel reviewing
Thanks, I do my best!
I wonder what type of temper, glass or screen protector you can use for the nano screen does anybody know?
That’s kinda what I was wondering as well, I’ll probably test a few different ones, I don’t want my screen protector to ruin the whole purpose of the nano texture display
Why would you?
Some good info here thanks!
That’s awesome! That’s always the goal of the channel! Glad you enjoyed it!
Loved your review. I personally think that the background music really gets in the way. We don’t need it.
Thanks for letting me know, maybe we should at least tone it down, we are still fine tuning our editing process, so thanks that’s incredibly helpful!
@@Graf-XTechReviews Yes, but I would challenge you that toning it down doesn't really eliminate the distraction.
On the 13 inch pro I believe you can feel the reinforcing down the centre of the device through the glass.
Yeah if you press kinda hard on the glass you can feel that for sure
You just got a new subscriber ❤
Thanks! I appreciate that!
My 13in 512gb is updating right now. Great great unboxing!
Hey, congrats! They are so fun to hold and have in person! Did you opt for the Magic Keyboard or no?
@@Graf-XTechReviews I have the keyboard for my 11in M2, but I rarely ever used it. I rather just keep my iPad in a nice TPU-like case 🙂
@@Graf-XTechReviews right now I really recommend the ESR Classic Series, and the May 25th release of the FloLab screen protector!
Yeah especially for the price, I’ve always been an ESR fan!
Thank you very much for your comparison and you made good Videos plans so that we can see the difference between the two iPads. Bravo and thank you again.
That’s awesome, I’m glad it was informative! Let me know if you have a specific question you want answered between these devices.
@@Graf-XTechReviews I have an iPad Pro 2018 6 years ago are you recommend me the iPad Pro 11 inch oled or I switch to an iPad Pro M2 because I do photo editing I take notes, consultation of e-mail content, movie. And if possible, I would like you to test us outside in full sun and test movies and we say that the quality is better, compared to the iPad Air or iPad M2 pro screen thank you for the service.
Yes absolutely! I really want to test out the screen when in sunlight. Right now I’m in poring rain so I can’t, but when the sun comes out, that’s my plan!
I will also be doing much more full comparisons between the iPads and their older models
@@Graf-XTechReviews Thank you I subscribe you are so kind thank you for making us quality videos thank you my friend!
Which ipad size u keeping?
Well, right now the plan is that I will be keeping the 11” and my business partner will take the 13” once I’ve reviewed it enough. If that changes I’ll make a video explaining why I returned the 11”
great review!
Thank you! Glad it helped!
True, well observed. That plastic wrap was nostalgic.
Exactly! They will truly be missed 😢
I still haven’t decided which size to buy 😅. I'm going to use it mostly to write notes, but I also want to watch some series when I'm in bed before going to sleep. Another question I have is that when the iPad Pro is on the Magic Keyboard, it seems uncomfortable to use the Apple Pencil and write notes. Will I need to have two covers, the Magic Keyboard and another cover for a better writing angle? It seems like I would have to remove the iPad from the Magic Keyboard to write comfortably with the Apple Pencil, but that would mean losing some protection. Additionally, I'm worried that removing the iPad frequently could scratch the camera lens or make the iPad unstable due to the camera bump. I think Apple should design the Magic Keyboard to provide better angles for using the Apple Pencil.
I had the same problem when deciding for myself! Luckily, my business partner wanted one as well so I can now try both sizes. In my heart, I’m an 11” guy and I love how portable that design is and it feels more notebook sizes. But I also love some of the functionalities of the larger iPad screen, so it’s a hard call. I will be doing more in depth comparisons between these two sizes. I also completely agree with your thoughts about the Magic Keyboard. I love the redesign and it’s definitely better, but I do wish it accommodated the Apple Pencil better. With the old keyboard I never had a problem the lens being scratched even when removing it a lot, but I will keep you updated if that remains true. I would probably recommend getting a magnetic folio case for times you don’t want the keyboard and that way your iPad is better protected. Great feedback! Thanks!
I have the 11 and didn't realise its way more letterbox than any other ipad ive had. feels weird. the 13 is virtually same width as the 11 so i may swap. Also I have some green shift in the whites and here at @10:25 you can see really different colours in the whites. These oleds may not be so great after all!
Likely that color difference is because I have the nano-texture display on the 11”. Not sure though, so I’ll keep an eye on that. Great info, thanks!
I love nano texture but in Apple Store they warmed me that s very very fragile !! I love the paper feeling but was too stressed to have problem on it. Also it s a little blurry about text etc
Yeah that’s totally fair! So far I haven’t had any fragility problems or times where the text seem blurry but I will keep everyone posted as I explore it long term
I don’t get the unboxing thing. Yes, it’s sort of fun when I’m doing it myself. But really, there are only so many that one can see before it gets tiring.
Yeah I actually agree. When I made it there weren’t too many out yet and I know some people enjoy them, but also, they are not for everyone, hopefully there was enough other content in there so it was still worth the watch! Otherwise I have another video on the iPads out and plenty more on the way!
You cannot tell any difference between regular vs nano? Bro… 😂 have a good one.
I see a pretty big difference with how it deflects glare, but I’m not sure how well that’s getting across on the video. I have a way more in depth screen comparison video coming out that should hopefully show the differences better.
The 11” is not good there shouldn’t be an option for a 11” pro typing this on my m4 13”
I think the 11” is perfect for those wanting something even more portable, but if your biggest focus is typing on the new Magic Keyboard then the 13” size will be more comfortable
Best for me would be any ipad you give to me😢
You know that’s fair!😂 although I barely got the budget for my own! But for real some of the older models have gotten a lot cheaper and they are still really good! If you’re on a tight budget they might be worth the look!
@@Graf-XTechReviews What about zero budget 😂. Students don't earn money 🥲
@@aryansindhu9773 I should’ve seen that coming 😂 well that’s probably not gonna get you much 😂
@@Graf-XTechReviews I don't want much but at least something 😂
Don't get hoped the fact is apple is behind like 1920 in the game of technology and they will always be sad to say probably when samsung dex makes applications like logic and final cut apple will be done and this will happen because apple doesn't invent anything new they copy and add a spin to it 😉 save your money apple is a scam m1 m2 m3 m4 now what exactly are you paying for a slightly faster ? You can just save your money this why I didn't buy a Mac studio because of apples 😒 constantly changing so why buy anything when it is going to be absolutely out dated from the same manufacturer and it will be caped for the older models to make sure that you buy a new system and apps created that won't work with the pervious version of the hardware don't make the same mistakes of throwing your money away we need a real reason to justify why is anyone spending money with this company it time to wake up
Well, I very much appreciate your feedback, although I disagree about Apple. And even though they are upgrading their processors regularly (which is not that much more frequently than Samsung) I have an iPhone 7+ that I no longer use just because I do this channel, but it is still fully functional and has better battery life then some modern phones. That’s like 8 years of support. I think that’s money well spent. But thanks again for your opinion!
I have a 2012 MacBook Pro that is still very nice to use.
Thanks for your opinion, I appreciate the incorrectness in it and I don’t care if you call me fanboy because I don’t even own a single Apple items. I like my Google Pixel.
@@Graf-XTechReviews it's not the way it's wasteful down right littering and yes apple is not making new software any more they are incapable of doing its like watching a fight they are definitely going to lose every time every year at least you got logic subscription & Final Cut Pro and the updated is Ai and stem separation late to the party is always and with mediocre technology
@@k.vn.k I don't know why you even said anything you haven't had or bought one your point is?