Logging with D6C
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ธ.ค. 2016
- Brief description of how to set chokers when logging behind a D6 Cat. For timber cutting
watch here: • Falling Dangerous Oak ...
I did a lot of this as a young man, and a decent amount as a less-young-man.
It seems simple enough, but there have been a lot of men killed performing this job. This small logging job was relatively safe. We were working on flat ground, the cat skinner was cautious, with only a handful of fallen trees.
Thank you all -
-Scott
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I remember doing this with my uncle. He was a logger of small plots of private land. He retired from it, but had bought a piece of land that had nice timber on it. He bough the land, primarily for the timber. He needed some help to get it done. As a reward, I got to drive the old JOHN DEERE skidder. It was hard work getting on & off the machine all day long to hook & unhook each turn. Even though it was a lot of work, these are some found memories I have of time spent with the ol boy.
As a young lad, in the mid 60's, I worked summers for P.W. Plumly lumber company out of Winchester, VA. At that time they were the largest hardwood flooring mill in the world. Worked the logging camp for 2 summers before becoming a certified hardwood lumber grader. My job was snapping chain or cable behind the Cat. Worked sun up to sun down 6 days a week. Lived dormitory style with 60 other guys. Hard work, long hours for $1.25 per hour. Looking back, it was some of the most gratifying work I've ever done.
You were a young lad in your mid 60s???? I'm in my 50s and I already feel old
I set choker in Northern California, in the Summer and Fall of 1979, before I joined the Army. It left me in the best shape of my life. I hadn't thought about it in years. Thanks for the memory refresh!
Good memories. Yarded thousands of board feet with a D6C exactly like yours. Love every minute of it. Just watched old super8 films of it this weekend, 1976-1077, wow I was young.
I will always remember coming back from a long stint commercial fishing/crabbing in the Bering sea.On the way up to my favorite river I got stopped by a tower working across the road I got out and watched the kids rigging up the logs.Crazy and dangerous as it gets.I believe logging is the most dangerous job there is.
Didn't blink much I dare say.
Its the running around in the mess that is logging.I live on the Olympic Penninsula and it is thick stuff.I Know quite a few broken loggers.
River rat My old sawmill mentor/family told me to always have a clear path to run in. Lots of broken loggers is right. And such a pity.
My first job out of high school (1958) was a choker setter in Northern Ca, you forgot to mention the100+ degree heat and having to run up the mountain side behind the cat to remove the choker.
Glenn Swett lol I’m in CA too, some of the worst things are impatient skidder operators hung up on stuff expecting you to sprint a half mile and fix there problem while it’s hot enough that one day as my previously ice cold and full to the brim plastic water bottle heated up it actually blew the top clean off of the bottle
Hi, your films are fantastic, I have been a carpenter/tradesman for 30 years now and I still love learning. You are very gratuitous in sharing your knowledge. Thank you from Australia
Thanks Scott, brings back memories, not all bad, not all good. Definitely earned my wages as a choker dog working High-Lead on the Coast Range flying 1 inch chokers. Even with a shotgun carriage, much of the timber was too big for the smaller 7/8. We had many 3 to 5 log loads daily and a few one log loads. Our Washington yard error was the biggest, we ran a 2 1/8 inch mainline. I got to help splice an eye in it one day, what a deal that was to a green 18 year old kid. Great video, thanks again. Andy
I pulled chokers 35 years ago in Northern Idaho for a small 2-3 man outfit in North Idaho. 1 Truck, a skidder / buldozer. 1 guy driving the skidder who also drove and loaded the truck, 1 guy setting chokers, and 1 guy cutting trees. Good memories... sure got my exercise in then... running from turn to turn.
Spent a few summers in my younger days as a choker setter. Hard, honest work and I filled my pockets with money.
I made a good living a number of years logging with a dozer. I just had a little 350 C JD but in a days time I could move alot of wood. It was small maneuverable which made up not being bigger. It had the logging winch set up as well and always ran 4 chokers on it. However not shown here as I tended to break chokers alot went to the chain chokers. More exspensive but saved money because you just could not break them nor did they have the issue of getting kinked up.
When I was a student, way back in the mid 50's, I had a summer job in the bush in Northern Quebec. Worked in logging and pulled a winch line as part of the job. It was tough, but I was in great shape at the end of that summer.
I really like your videos.
Another Tremendous video. I only recently ran across your channel and I was hooked. Love the information and the historical foundation for much of your content. You are truly a font of knowledge and I am so very happy you are taking the time to share it with us. Thank you again
Thanks for sharing! Totally love everything you show on your channel!
love your videos please never stop making them
I set chokers and ran rigging behind a 1947 slide bar D8 up north of Libby, MT, back in 1966.
This is the kind of video I have been waiting for you to do. Thank you!
You are a wealth of knowledge. Thank you for taking the time and effort in making these videos
wranglestar not even close to quality and content of ec. ec seems to know everything there is about everything. almost a bit too perfectly but def best on web. i am addicted
I meant to add that I thoroughly enjoy your videos.
Hello: Essential Craftsman Thanks for the video, I use to do that line of work with my Dad in my younger years time went by pretty quick if you like your job. You and your family have a Merry Christmas
Such great content! Thank you so much!
one of my favorite thing to do loved it
I like the term exciting. It means you better be damn sharp and have eyes that never stop searching and every other sence is in tune with everything around you. Great stuff in all your videos. Thank you sir
Man does this bring bad memories, I use to work high lead logging and timber falling.
"Picture doing this on steep slopes..." nah, been there! I remember just a few logs too big to wrap with a single choker in Douglas County Oregon circa 1978.
Come to South Africa please we need people like you.
At times I miss setting chokers. If the money wasn't so terrible, I wouldn't be putting my carpenter bags on this morning.
Man your vids are great. Please don't fall into the trap that Wranglerstar fell into, namely using the 95% of video to talk about logging and 5% actually logging.
One of the reasons I unsubscribed to Wranglerstar.
this comment right here is spot on. he just blabs in videos now
looneylizard look at him now. 98% is talking.
Wranglerstar fell in love with the camera and couldn’t stop courting it.
@@62forged Man you guys are hard on Wranglerstar, I thought the video was to talk about it. Good to know I only need to setup a camera and hit record to make you guys happy :-)...Maybe I can TH-cam :D
Recently subscribed,,,really enjoying your channel and recommending to my friends.
See this is a lot more friendly when you don’t have to worry about a skyline or idiots using bugs - I tend to find flatland logging is a lot more relaxing but not as much of an adrenaline inducer. Oh and that part about the mess of dry brush is on point, in fact just today I was on stable ground and then I fell 7ish feet into some brush. One last thing I might point out is that some of the worse parts of non - skidder logging are the fact that you’re always in danger of getting hit if you’re setting or if you’re chasing on a downhill site, but here you’re more concerned about activity having trees felled right near you and machines all around you at points. Regardless, very nice explanation there Scott
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I remember when dad came up with the idea to add a cable from the blade of the small john deere cat that they used for dragging logs. They had always up to that point just had a hook on the back and at that time only used tongs. (They didn't have chokers till they got a skidder, not sure why.) Anyway dad got the idea to prevent getting dirt on the entire length of the log they'd pick up one end and also decrease the drag. So he hooked pulley up high on the back of the cat, ran a cable up over that, down to the bottom over another pulley there, up to the front where it went over a couple of more pulleys and was hooked to the blade. Then they'd use the blade to raise and lower the front end of the log. I've walked a lot of miles in the woods in that log furrow made by dragging logs. When they got their first log skidder that changed the whole skidding of log game all together. But man that Detroit was noisy.
When I was a real small shaver they used an old 6 wheel drive army truck to drag logs. It had a wench and I never really knew back then what those levers on the floor were. I just thought it was magic when the wheels started spinning they'd throw another lever and it would go better. That old truck had a wood cab built on it. Made for quite a ride on a winter day. Dad and his brothers never did borrow money to buy anything for their logging business. If they couldn't afford it they'd either fix or modify what they had or do without.
scott. this henry wazerschoot watched a neighbor who rented a bobcat with rubber treads put on a brush cutter a attachment work facing down hill and drop off a 4t gully and spend a half day trying to get it out and fail. a heavy duty tow truck and recovery team come the next day. the team looked at the mess and determined that the normal tow truck would not work. they brougt the monster tow truck into action it was a half million dollar machine with twin steering axles and heavy duty out riggers add all kinds of cool do dads. they had 3/4 tow cable and a team of 6 brawny guys carry the cable to the bob cat skid steer. it was less than an hour to get the bob cat out of that ditch .
the owner was annoyed that the big rig was billed out at $ 700/hr with a twi hour minimum. the normal tow truck was billed out at $200/hr.
morale of this story ia like buying oats, if you want good oats you have to pay a good fair price to the farmer. but if you can use the oats after the horse uses it, hell yeah it comes much cheaper and of course mistee ed is the talking horse in the 1960s and there is a young clint eastwood from the raw hide series in black and white and every gray and grey in between. ohhh sheet happens and wilbur there was only one talking horse the fanous mr ed. a cbs sunday prime time classic with my favorite marian and ed sullivan with a really big show like the british beatles before queen elizabeth rhe second knighted them as sirs with love. hell yeah the 1960s had some great stuff like neil and mr buzz light year aldrin putting the first man made foot prints on te moon surface face on july 20, 1969 that was on line an on time for the jfk 1960s promise to land and safely return a man to the moon before the next decade. and before walter conkite did the twenty first century on sunday night. hell yeah we were bellamy brother children of the baby boom. 1946-1964.
My brother was going to 'show me how it's done'.....and his girlfriend too.......took a 20 foot choker and a 20 foot chain....tried pulling log up the side of a hill with 65 ford 3/4 pickup.....choker breaks and 20 foot chain came over the truck, right through the center of windshield.....where his girl had been sitting....fortunate, no one was hurt.....except ego's.....
Today, I removed an 80 year old poplar log from the garden, then, lifted the 20"(narrow end) diameter x 18' onto a stack of cut off 4x4s so it would be up out of the grass. I used a come-along and a length of chain and a floor jack. In two weeks i turn 69. Then, I come in for a break and this in on my feed. Never stop.
A 6-C is my favorite grading tractor. Balance and power. Not going to run a 7-e or an 8-H off though.
If they had a good set of grousers on them they'd do a lot in a little while. Seems like the 6 was the best all around size years ago. I still like the 'C' better that the hi-tracks and if a 'C' was right it'd push with a 6-R. Once ran a 5 that had been worked on that'd push with an 850 Deere. Ran them both and the little 5 was a little bull and building logging and skid roads is grading. No way around it.
Great Job thxs!.
Is there anything you don't know? You know a hell of a lot of stuff and do it all very well. You are what I have learned to know as a human dictionary or a human encyclopedia, rare. I even bought a pair of Diehard boots and White Ox gloves because I trust your wisdom.
Hopefully useful to me some day
Where im from (northern newbrunswick) we call the "turn" a "twitch" logging with timberjacks
Enjoyed...I thought I had hit the sub button.....just punched it now!
Hi one of my most favorite jobs wish they would still let me do it........
working with wire cables, chockers, clever are some of the most dangerous work I ever did. thank God I'm old and decrepit and unable to do that work anymore. one of those cables, under tremendous stress could cot you in half in an eyeblink.
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Oh man, I'm a sucker for old Cats. Could we maybe get a video of just the dozer? It seems to be in great condition for a C code, even more so logging spec!
excellent video, you didn't mention the squaws hitch another method of setting a choker
Wow, my dad used a D6 to log. His brother did chokers for him.
I'll take the dozer! Beautiful machine
"... with a strong sense of self preservation." For sure! They don't hang around long otherwise (one way or another...)
I've always wanted a D6C in logging config. You're not helping. :o)
Could you talk about these boots you are wearing?
I've seen guys put their chainsaw up on their shoulder like you do in this video. I've always wondered whether that risks bending the bar. Is this a reasonable concern or is a bar stiff enough to handle the weight of the saw? Thanks for the video.
I used to tote a saw like that when I was a youngster but now I just haul it along and just try to keep the bar out of the dirt!
Essential Craftsman My dad worked for Weyerhaeuser over in Coos Bay , Oregon area and he always carried his saws over his shoulder and they were the big saws with long bars for cutting the old growth .
....Yeah...yeah....try this with 2 guys and as 65 Ford 3/4 ton pickup.......back in 1980....no cam-corders then......
Poor people had poor ways and you used what you had. Some folks still do.
Yeah, yeah try this with a Land rover defender 110, two guys, one of them being 15 years old. Plus raining, not much but still raining and slipery, plus a decent hill :))
Turn, is just that simple. In cat logging you go get a turn of logs, drag them in and then you take another turn and go back and get more. Ain't it so?
is it only me that's concerned with him standing so close to that cable under tension? I understand it's probably well within it's limits but still why risk it?
Thinking the same thing. Just good practice to properly distance yourself so you don't get comfortable for when it matters.
Yea I saw that too but he didn't stay there for more than a couple seconds
Because logging is the definition of flipping off any sort of regulations or policies- hell on yarder sites you’re always within reach of getting hit by some cable if it were to break, not to mention that in this case each log probably weighs a couple tons at most- far under the breaking strength so I’d imagine it was a calculated risk
Maybe TURN comes from "now it's your turn"? I', from germany, and "turn" is translated to "Zug" -> "Its you turn" vs. "Du bist am Zug" -> My turn - i pull now a bunch of trees ... btw. the german word "Zug" is also translated to "pull" in english ...
Your cable is much better than pounding dogs into the trees.
Wonderful instrument for accelerating the forests into deserts. Bravo. keep it up and guarantee that there is no tree to fall.
How did you say the nubbin was attached? swedged? what is that?
"Swaged." The end of the metal fitting has a slit across it and is hollow in the center. You run the cable into the hollow and squeeze the sides tightly against the cable; the fitting is deformed around the cable and holds it tightly enough that the cable does not pull out. There are also swage fittings that will take two cables side-by-side; you can put the fitting around a cable near the end, loop the free end back around and put it into the second groove on the fitting, then clamp them both down tight to form a permanent loop in the cable (small ones are commonly used to make a loop in the end of a steel wire fishing leader). The term "swage" also means more generally using pressure to deform metal into a desired shape, rather than by hammering or rolling. For cables like these, a swaged fitting is a clamped-on fitting; it is stronger than using a screw-down fitting, and easier than welding.
That cat and winch look familiar. Did you get that from Cody at Wranglerstar?
Cody's cat was a international harvester td20,bigger than he needed.
So how much timber will each of those logs realistically yield?
Wow, that is a ton of wood! I assume this was on your property? If so, are you free to fell logs at your leisure? I'm sure of how land-rights work in that regard, especially in the pacific northwest.
Not me. If the higher powers (and I use the term very loosely) have anything to do with it, it's GOT to be sideways at best.
Love it, every PNW boys dream.
BTW, every young man should have a D6 (or 2, in case you get one stuck.)
It's LBF not LBS. Or actually 115 kN if you want to use real units.
Don't you use sliders on your bull line
Who on God's green earth disliked this video? I now know two people I would never share a beer with.
I was wondering the same thing...
Steep hill sides are were You have to have Your saftey brain full engaged. No room for mistakes because stuff moves quick. I had a John Deere 440B wheeled cable skidder . Its not hard to get in big trouble on a steep hill on a skidder if You go out of the hard rules of going straight up and straight down a slope or not hard settling the blade and lifting thr front tires high enough to park the skidder so you can jump out and choke logs. ZERO room for stupid people in logging
A younger dumber man like myself would jump on and ride the logs behind the dozer instead of walking behind it
Nope. The *entry* *level* job is Hooking & Bumping Knots on the Landing.
please when demonstrating,or actually working,stay out of the bite of the chokers....not a place to be when m ovement is taking place!