Wire Rope - Molly and Farmer's Eye
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- A couple handy tips to use when working with wire rope (cable).
I learned these sorts of things while logging, you can learn more about logging and tree falling here • Logging with D6C
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i work gas and oil new construction and i don't care if your building houses, water treatment facilities, nuclear power plants or a greenhouse, people need to watch these videos and learn a thing or about a thing or two. this channel provides a wealth of knowledge and i tell many many people to watch these videos to gain a better perspective of how to be a better tradesman/craftsman. thanks you for sharing your experience and knowledge to the world.
I agree. Thanks to you tube. This gentleman has a vast amount of information. Thanks E.C!!
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I agree
Yea man come in handy for for taking out buildings in demo and rigging for lowering beams through holes 👀
Totally agree.
I would spend full weekends even brooming in this guy barn only to learn from him and listen his amazing stories.
I got a HUGE laugh from "uh....a rough and earthy world" 😂😂
Thank you for that, EC.
Yep couldnt hold my laugh in.......
A literal LOL
Can someone explain? :)
He means that a slang term from the logging world, especially one which is a woman's name, may have some sort of vulgar connotation.
Der Xer
It's just a humorous use of a euphemism :)
*long deliberate pause* "a rough and earthy world" I just about died from laughter.
Politeness is sometimes a more expressive way than crude and vulgar I think we all appreciated his avoidance with his humor... I too appreciated how he did that.
Actually made laugh out loud too - a rough and earthy world!
A modern crane rigger educated me on the difference. Said shackles have threaded pins and clevises have smooth pins with a hole for a cotter/other type of retaining pin. 2 cents shared
I swear I've received boxes marked 'Clevis-type Shackle' from Rigging Gear Manufacturers - Bow Shackles with threaded pins and a hole drilled through the pin which holds a green cabletie marked with the last test date.
Like as you can tie a Clevis hitch or knot Clevis is just a name attached to the type or kind, not a type in and of itself.
i 100% agree
I have grown up in by threw and around excavating & hoisting and you are absolutely correct
Shackles to me are safer. I was a lineman for irby construction
To add more obfuscation to the confusion, I've seen catalogs that refer to the pin as the clevis (threaded or smooth) and the shackle is the horseshoe shaped part. Then others say the shackle is the one with the threaded pin (as you said). Then another site says the U-shaped portion is the clevis and together with the pin (smooth or threaded), it's called a shackle (probably from someone in another part of the world using different terms). Just get me that U-shaped thingy with a pin sticking through it.
Hello Scott, my name is Paul and I’ve been watching your videos for sometime now And I wanted to thank you for being a good teacher and someone that is easy to listen to, knowledgeable, and seems to be humble and still ready to learn. When I was younger a good friend of mine‘s father was very much like you are and you remind me of him. his name is Skip and he was an aquacultural researcher and like you very willing to share. At the time I remember feeling that if I could pick a father I would want it to be him. well as things turned out I sadly lost that friendship and Subsequently haven’t seen Skip for many many years but I look back on that time fondly.
Thank you again for sharing your knowledge and experience with us.
Saracino Salvage is he still around? Hope you can not waste a moment and call or find. Thank You for sharing this comment.
"A rough and earthy world..." Just love your descriptive turns of phrase Scott. Keep the videos coming please.
Russ Drummond I really liked that one too. We knew exactly what he meant, but he kept it perfectly clean. Love this channel.
A ruff and earthy world. AvE was right about this man. Keep up the good work!
Daren Scott In which video?
I don't remember which AvE vid specifically, but it was the vid that brought me here.
I’ve actually heard AvE mention this channel and Scott more than a few times, he always speaks very well about him, I can’t wait remember which video either, I just forget everything, lol
th-cam.com/video/oXQcihHppIs/w-d-xo.html
Thats the one!
Hands down, best TH-camr I’ve found. Keep up the good work sir. If it is in your bank of knowledge, we are up for watching. Carpentry, tool review, the spec house build, blacksmithing, etc. I love it all!
More times than I can count, I find my self staring , dumbfounded at these tips and tricks. The wisdom and sheer prowess you old salts have in your mental toolkits is just incredible. The old adage about having forgotten more about a subject than a young man has learned his whole life is neither facetious nor is it arrogance. If you spend a day working with a seasoned hand and you don't learn something, you're not paying attention. Thanks for the wisdom, and the techniques. Keep 'em coming!
7:45 those words gave mi chills, i love you man, you are so down to earth, wish my generation had more people like you. i dont know around the world but here in México, young people is just useless, maybe because i live in the middle class in one of the big cities, but i dont know, i dont like my peers, they are super distracted on whats going on with other lifes or worse with famous lifes.
You are not alone Santiago.
I've never done logging work, but I've pulled trucks out of mud and snow and been pulled out of places we had no place being, and those forces are scary. I can barely comprehend the forces exerted every day across the world by giant machines most people never even think about.
As a young guy, it's always nice to see your videos, they are packed full of more knowledge than just about anything I've ever witnessed. You have such a way with words, and a complete understanding of the topic that it's always a treat when you upload.
What was said about working in the woods as a young man really touched home with me. During, warm winter and spring days I find myself as well yearning for the forest. I was able to experience a small scale harvesting and on site saw-milling operation as a saw-hand in Colorado post university. And subsequently worked as a forestry tech felling trees and in the winter burning the slash piles, hard work, long days and fulfilling experiences. I fully agree that my experiences during this type of work changed me. Now working at a desk job whenever I'm having a bad day I just think back to the few times a tree sat back on my saw; removing the power head, get the other saw, pound the wedges, hope the wind dies down, heart pounding the whole time, scared and just knowing I can handle this. You can't control nature but you can work with it and learn from it. Thank you for the content the Essential Craftsman channel is producing.
First off, love all of the information you share with us. I am always learning something new when you sit down at that table and do a video.
Today I learned some new things and new terms, but what really stuck out to me is that little picture of a hammer that was sent to you by a young man who is an aspiring carpenter. Today you showed me an even greater glimpse at your character, which I have never questioned, but is now even more reinforced and who you are as a man. I hope that young man watches your videos and sees his hammer picture still hanging in your shop. Thank you for showing honor and being honorable in all areas of life. Have a blessed day Scott!
"it's something that a young man is made for". Great video EC.
Nice video Scott. As an apprentice rigger at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard back in 1968, I learned all kinds of splicing. Wire rope, braided nylon, hemp, etc. Your video brought back memories. Thanks for sharing.
I'm often wishing there was a more profound way to say I enjoyed the video than just "LIKE"... Certainly do enjoy these vids!!
as a crane technician a clevis and a saddle are close.A shackle pin should not be tighten just snug so when the shackle does deform the pin can still be removed . But a cable carries electricity a wire rope carries a load. I do love your videos and have learnt a lot though them .please keep them coming.
That farmers eye went together like it was meant to be. I expected it to look really bad. Cool trick. Thanks for sharing.
"Clevis" is still correct terminology in our aviation vocabulary in it's proper application.
Great video even if I'm a year or so late.👍🙂
clevis is also used in french in industrial terminology
clevises are used in linkage such as control robs etc.
It is almost unbelievable how a relatively young guy could know so much about that rough and earthy world. I enjoy every second of these videos. Unfortunate is that my handyman father (91 year old today) does not understand sufficient English to enjoy these videos. I cannot stop thinking about all those craftsman stories I heard from him or skills I learned from him. I am pleased to find that craftsmans/teachers/speakers like Scott Wadsworth (did I get your name right?) exist and they can pass down the knowledge to future generations. Great content. Addictive to watch. Thank you.
I love your videos. As an old millwright, I’ve used a lot of clevises and cables when securing or rigging steel structure. As a young man, I always enjoyed those times when the cranes would come in and we would be doing the high structure. I thank you for what you do. You bring back so many memories for me and those amazing times when a 14-16 hour work day was typical.
What's not to like about anything Scott does. Love the stories. Thanks for the video.
The way you explain the love of certain crafts and skills is exceptional. Listening to you talk about logging made me think about my years as a distribution lineman and the love of the work I had back then. The work was hard and dangerous at times but it was very satisfying. Thanks for bringing back good memories of my trade. I miss the work on sunny days ( not the sub zero temps and snow).
It never ceases to amaze me at all the knowledge you have, its astounding. You are a true student of life. Thank you for all your videos and sharing all this information!
Forty + years a carpenter. Now, I find myself on 40 acres of mountain side and Douglas Fir. You've contributed immensely. Thank you
Thanks for that. When you spoke about growing up around logging it echoed my experience growing up in a Pennsylvania oilfield. Wire rope was everything. The 'Farmer's Eye' you mentioned was taught to my Dad and me by a power company lineman.
We homeschool our son and have him watch a few of your videos every week as part of his school.
Love your comments about work for a young man. Still fondly remember my framing days.
Sir, when I was a whippersnapper being taught rope-craft by my betters, I was advised that the lay of the wires in a strand and then the lay of the strands around the core, influenced the strength, the elasticity and wear resistance of the rope/cable.
Laying the wires and the strands in “Lang’s Lay” was best for resisting damage. As was explained to me, the wires of a strand were not always on the outside, in this method. So rust and other damage was ‘spread’ across its diameter and length, making the cable wear resistant.
Finally, I’d like to mention some great advice I received at this time. Never step over a cable, even one at rest. Always walk around, no matter how long that may take. And related to that was never stand behind/in front of a cable under strain. Made very good sense to me, having later, seen first hand the damage done when a cable failed under strain.
Greatly enjoy your channel. Thank you.
Sometimes you can't walk around. I was taught to step ON the cable if I had to walk across it. Mainly, do whatever you can to know if that cable is suddenly going to jump up under tension. If you're standing on it, it'll throw you clear.
In the plumbing world we still use the term clevis to refer to the type of “U” shaped hangars we use to suspend steel and cast piping. Great video once again. Thank you sir.
Hard work wears the roughness in a young man, but not the toughness. Yes, indeed, they are made for that. They are made for all kinds of education. Essential Craftsman is definitely the best out there. Many thanks! ★★★★★
I had a job at one time that give me a lot of downtime and it would drive me crazy to just sit and do nothing, so I started to bring rope and cable to work with me ! By experimenting with these I was able to come up with some new arrangements ( well, new to me ) that really come in handy later many times ! Most of my coworkers couldn't understand why I would waste my time doing this and not just take a nap, but I've always enjoyed learning something new so it's not wasted time to me ! Thanks Scott for reminding me of this !
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍 👍
Drinking Coffee and watched you build a 1400 foot long wall and now I learned the Farmers EYE. I have a mast antenna I am going to guy wire in place, I was going to wrap the SS 1/4 wire around a thimble and line clamp it. Thank you ! Now I will do the Farmers Eye. I have carried a Buck Yachtsman SSFolding Knife with a folding Marlin Spike on it for about 38 years now. Working in some construction,a Yacht/Boat yard, a lumber yard where I rope tied and untied loads all day lone and working in TV and Film Studio, Mobile Production Trucks for sports and live events and on sets. In Rigging to haul, hoist and hold, I learned early on a "hand" that can make it so, quickly and safely is a valuable man on a crew and you would get called back for more work. Thank you. I enjoy your videos and wisdom.
EVERY video teaches me things that I have experienced in varying number of years ago but back they were not taught, just shiwen & experienced. These are wonderful.
I enjoy it when you dig out the old work tools to illustrate a point and they are all rusted. Not as visually appealing as patina for sure, but it adds a lot of character.
The swager of an old logger.
And I'll show myself out now.
Bravo best description of this on you tube and i know. I worked over 20 years as a old style cable tool driller in the oilfields deep as 6,500 feet with cable tools and i also worked a number of years in the logging industry. I am fully versed in all types of cable repair and work it was a big part of my living. Getting too old now but from what i can see on the internet the art of cable is a lost art and i am probably one of very few that still knows how to lay and weave splices.
Love your beautiful vocabulary and accent. Original American accent. Words are not enough to appreciate the value of your useful programs. Lots of appreciations, thankyou.
Wow, Scott. I can't imagine that I'll ever use one, but I'm glad that you showed me how to put together a Farmer's Eye none-the-less.
I really love your videos. I watch them every night--you have a great understanding of not only the work involved--but the deeper philosophy of doing it which I find absolutely fascinating! I did two university degrees and tried being a corporate and felt lost until I did labouring for a friend once and realised that physical work is the closest thing I've ever come to zen! Now I have been a chippy for just about 6 years now and everyone now and again I like to think I know everything but then I watch your videos and your humility and humbleness and willingness not only to teach but to remind us that we all have to keep learning and getting better helps me be a better tradesperson and just a better person in general, so I thank you for that :)
I love your videos like the alot of useful knowledge that alot of people would otherwise never know and we always call it a Clevis.
At the moment I am writing this, I have not watched the entire video. Yet I cannot get over what I perceive to be perfection in lighting, focus and depth of field in the video. Really, really amazing. It feels like you and I are in the same room, just a few feet apart. I'm certain the contents of your message are spot-on and entertaining, as always, but whatever you did with the camera is simply just right.
Yet again, content that I will probably never have a real world practical need for, but this channel is just so good and your such a good teacher. This I one of my favorite TH-cam channels hands down. Great educational content that is entertaining at the same time.
Boy does this content put a smile on my face. Thank you! 🙏
Hi Scott, In recreating a rope walk (rope making machine), I found that the reason for opposite twist in different parts is to fight the rope from unwinding itself. The two twists (clockwise and counterclockwise) fight each other to keep the rope stable.
I’m glad you mentioned forging with the cable...that’s great stock!
haha the clevis and shackle debate right off the bat! My line crew went up to the home of potholes and trash (Detroit, MI) from the home of potholes and trash (Springfield, IL) and we kept asking for shackles with confused looks. Long story short, the Detroit Edison boys only know them as clevises and we only know them as shackles.
I was always taught a clevis is a material item whether they had nuts and pins or just pins. A shackle is a rigging tool that leaves with you when the task is completed. Mostly with screw in pins. Don't even mention the different names for a 10 foot piece of rope. You can almost tell what part of the country someone is from ....sling, sling rope, becky, round becky, rope becky, collar rope, rope sling ..... HOLY COW !!! Just give me a piece of rope for crying out loud.
Peace. Work safe Brother.
Thoroughly enjoyed this episode!!!!
Great info delightfully presented.
Your wealth of knowledge is amazing not to be repetitive, just mind boggling and your humility is refreshing. When you wondered why the two sections were twisted in opposite directions, it is because when those two sections are put together to make a larger diameter cable they then naturally want to twist and stay together, as in when you retwisted them to make the eye in the farmers eye. The groves in one cable section lie perfectly in the groves of the other cable section and the opposing forces keep the cable from untwisting as the actually put pressure towards one another. That is as you showed if you twist them together in the proper direction. Otherwise you can have a catastrophic failure. Thanks for another great lesson that even though I already knew about how to make a farmers eye, you made a great refresher course.
Like you videos. I hauled logs off the Washington coast back in the 80's. Hauled logs out from under a lot of big yarders...saw some nasty wrecks too..like all your videos. Thank you for your time.
Love learning from your extensive knowledge. Enjoy your videos very much.
A lot of experience and information in these videos. It’s a pleasure to watch.
Great video, You teach me something new every time. Thanks for sharing.
As a logger myself i can attest to the many uses of cable. Very informative man...do not take his words for granted...he knows what he is talking about.
You my friend have made me one handy man to have around. I’m younger and the old timers tell me how do you know how to braid cable? I just smile
beeeee-yu-tee-full work with that cable at 9:40 - 11:00 Fantastic demo and narration. As always, Thank you Scott!
I knew there was a timber beast in there 😀.
2 points I'de like to bring up for those who will try these.
Molly Hogan. She kept things from coming apart.
When someone rolls a Molly. , a Molly needs to finish out in a circle, Not a square. A square molly will come in wound real quick. Round Molly stays the way you made it.
Farmer's Eye.
If someone chooses to use (swifter) cable clamps.
NEVER SADDLE A DEAD HORSE ! Meaning . the 2 hole saddle part of the clamp goes on the working side . The U bolt goes on the bitter end (tail) side.
This is a most excellent vid !!!
Thank you very much ! Your even wearing White Ox !
Your one of the first channels I subscribed to. A true craftsman and teacher thank you for educating an old man wish stuff like this were available to me earlier in life when I would have been able to use it more often anyway learning is never a waste I still get to help my son with some knowledge I can pass on. We thank you.
Your TH-cam channel will be a awesome thing for your grandchildren and there children, you able to give your knowledge into something they can reference long after you are gone(not to sound negative about being gone). My grandfather was a very knowledgeable man when it come to working with his hand and boy I wish I could remember some of the things that he told me when I was you and didn’t know to really absorb it. I enjoy your videos and wish I knew half the things you know.
I thoroughly enjoy your videos, they are very informative and you’ve taught this old dog a few tricks. As a power lineman for 43 years I’ve used a clevis thousands of times. Perhaps it may be an east coast thing, here a clevis has an unthreaded pin kept with a cotter pin, a shackle has a threaded pin. Also shackles are used on prisoners...... I’ve also weaved pulling eyes in steel cable many times but rather than use cable clamps, which hang up in running blocks, we served the end of the eye with serving wire. Again, thank you for this very informative channel! Never heard of a Molly before....
Your farmer's eye tutorial answered something that had aggravated me to no end years ago. As a kid, I found some cable (much thinner than yours), and for the heck of it, I decided to put a loop on one end. It wouldn't work no matter what. Now I finally know that if I'd just woven it the other way, it would have come together.
Now I'll be on the lookout for some scrap cable just to try it. It had always bothered me that the thing hadn't cooperated.
I'm amazed at every video you make! Thank you so much for your vast knowledge of everything! I enjoy everything you have to offer!
I'm 48 & I kinda know the terms your using but not enough to be confident using them. Without content like this the younger gens will have no chance. So thanks & keep it up.
Pleasure to watch as always. Thanks for your time
Another informative and entertaining video, keep it up. Terms for tools always amaze me when it comes to the variety of names for different things. Had guys from all different backgrounds at my last job and would hear 3 or 4 names for one tool. Used to install chain link fence on commercial sites and we had a guy from the west coast working with us for a bit. What we called "weaves" he called "needles". Another time we were doing an install for a company out of Florida. They called up telling my boss we didn't install any fabric. Well we did, but what we call fabric is the chain link itself, what he was calling fabric is what we called shade cloth (which is hog ringed onto the fabric).
Rough and Earthy. Well put, Sir.
The wealth of knowledge shared on this channel is amazing. I back in my better years grew up in the oilfields. I am probably likely the last living generation to have actually worked as a driller on cable tool drilling. From that I went into the timber buisness so spent most of my life making a living working with steel cable. I miss those days and wish they was a way I could demonstrate how to splice 2 lengths of cable to form one longer cable. As for the eyes we always called it weaving a deadmans loop. Yeah I was taught old school as I was 3rd generation in family to take up the drilling trade.
You make it look so easy.
Another amazing video with lots of detail. I'm convinced no one but EC could make this stuff entertaining
You touch me heart in a special way. Keep on keeping on my friend.
I bet you’re a hoot to be around. Once again, my friend you’ve illustrated the depth of your knowledge. I appreciate your ability to use your body as part of your work. Sometimes, every part of you is required to get the job done.
I miss it on sunny days. So great thanks as always for sharing your wealth of knowledge
Thanks for sharing this. napped the winch cable on my ATV, when I just started plowing after a big dump of snow. You saved my bacon! Driveway is clear!
This guy knows his trade!! Its about time someone does!!
Learn something new every day. To me a "Molly" was just a molly bolt - used to fasten to gypsum board. Your splicing demonstration took my back in time to when I was in the Navy! Thanks for sharing.
Totally brilliant teacher and lesson
Great great GREAT video sir, so glad you are building an encyclopedia of your knowledge for all to share
I was given an ingot of Socket Metal, melted and poured to hold terminal fittings on wire. While researching that, I found this. I travel with shackles as a part of my kit all the time. I just this week used a handful of them to recover a very nice piece of Jadite Jade (A purple colored piece, thus not nephrite) from the Illinois River area of Josephine County. I have made "mollys" out of rope for decades, but now I have ideas on how to use your wire versions too. Thank you! PS _ learned rigging on fishing boats and as a merchant marine, it is a skill that stands me well. It is literally knowing the ropes.
Wow...the bent shackle is just amazing.
I always learn something on every one of your videos!
Growing up on a farm, under the collective thumbs of Dad and Grandpa, there were lots of eloquent words used to name and describe various items and ideas.
Working as a toolmaker to make enough money to keep farming, the difference between a clevis and a shackle seemed to be as you had mentioned, the screw pin on a shackle, and a crooked rusty(nice patina) square head bolt in a clevis. To confuzicate things a bit more, tell the folks about a twisted clevis.
On the subject of “line”. There was a situation written about in an older magazine that told of a dozer operator in a big woods that over stressed a heavy cable. When it broke, the stretch in the line created two lethal entities. One supposedly removed the operator’s head, while the other did some damage to things and persons behind the break.
Your presentation of useful things and methods that a seventy year old man can remember is greatly appreciated. Keep on keepin’ on.
LOL a "rough and earthl world". I love it! I grew up around boilermakers similar people.
That pause at 7:46 has 1000's of wistful memories in it... we feel it too! Thanks for the words!
Watching that line form in on itself in a loop again was satisfying and amazing to me.
Internal core has an opposing twist to help hold the rope together and so that the cable doesn't twist and stretch under tension, since the internal core would want to twist in the opposing direction.
Its the same with rope! Thanks for sharing with us again!
Back in the '70's there was a drilling rig that was moved into the Belize jungle with helicopters. As you can imagine they needed many slings. What they did was send cable cutters (like the one in the video), sledge hammers, hacksaws, spools of wire rope, and galvanized pipe.
They cut a piece of pipe 6"-8" long & slipped it on the wire, and made a farmer's eye. Then they slid the end into the pipe and crimped it shut with 2 sledge hammers.
All this done in the bush with very unskilled workmen.
I get excited every time I see you have a new video! I have learned a lot from you every time.
Awesome thoughts on the feelings of working around a high paced heavy equipment worksite.
I am still catching up on all your posts. This one brought back memories of working with my uncle in the field placing underground utilities in Texas. Thanks
Absolutely love your videos ! They are so full of learning and knowhow and a pleasure to watch! Keep it up
"A Rough And Earthy World" very good description!!
Very interesting video!! Especially the part about how to put a "farmers eye" in the end of a cable!! I learned something very useful today! Thank you!
Made for that work. I agree. That Farmer's eye was cool. Thanks.
Another thumbs up video, Thank you Scott
Thanks for teaching what a molly is. I have been making them for years.
that was fascinating. I have some old rusty line out back, I'll try making a farmers eye, just for the practice.
rjtumble haha. Me too!
That was a spectacular bit of fun to learn. Thank you.
Hadn't learned one new thing today until I watched your video. Thanks for teaching me something new.
Thanks Craftman Dad! Great videos!
Hi, enjoyed the video, will look for more. Learned to form those eyes while working on the barges used on the big rivers. They called it 'rolling an eye'. The big flotillas of barges seen on the Mississippi are lashed together with wire rope. Ran wreckers off & on, more wire. Later found myself line skidding in the Bitterroots, Mt/Id divide. Lots of wire there too. Spent awhile running a dragline, more wire. Found many occasions to use the eye trick. I was taught that a clevis is the forked piece of hardware threaded onto a rod. As in some linkage arrangement. Found on clutches, throttles, governors, bellcranks. Re. cable clamps, I was always told 'don't saddle a dead horse'. Meaning the saddle goes on the working part, the U-bolt on the standing part.