Big Turbo 400HP Subaru STI vs. Tuned E85 Ford Focus RS | Tuner Shootout!
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Hey guys! Today we've got two heavy hitters in the turbo AWD corner of the automotive tuning community. Both of these examples are modified in different ways, running a blend of E85 and a bunch of aftermarket goodies. Both the Subaru Impreza STI and Ford Focus RS have carved out their own markets and hardcore fans across the globe and today we're going to find out what they're all about. Enjoy!
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"We race because we're not allowed to go to war."
The sound of the STI is just ridiculous, no other 4 cylinder sounds so good!
Omg yesss bro im so in love
Cant agree. But we are all diffrent.
@@Eric-Wall If u actually disagreed you would propose your superior 4 but you know hes correct
@@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n Uuu, why whould i need to do that? And when you say proposed your superior 4, do you think i mean something different then the RS? We are just talking sound here, why cant we have different opinions?
Focus st with 2.3 stroker and piper cans 😂
Question: How did you keep the owners from vaping long enough to film them?
better question is which one would blow there headers first lmfao
Jokes old and lame
@@JMPC90 it's a joke, not a dick. So don't take it so hard.
Bestwick1983 wow, haven’t heard that before
This legit made me laugh.
wish they would bring back the hatchback in the STi...
Love my hatch Sti😇 sometimes I wish I had a sedan w a wing but oh well
playdoh1975 I know right bro, the new hatchbacks are clean asf, wish they came in sti & wrx too
playdoh1975 I mean you could build one but you’d have to have some serious cash
If they do and it has the ej in it I will trade my 18 limited
Exhaust note on the rs is horrible.
JR Quijada ya I’m all for loud cars but it’s kinda annoying but still a cool car
Your?? Really??? Your???
The RS sounds gross
@@Chris-uu7oz some people really dont know how to use "your" vs. "You're" and even "then" vs. "Than".but sometimes we need to understand what they really meant to say even their spelling and word is wrong.
Sounds so much better in person, its crazy
Not a fan of the RS exhaust. As an ecoboost mustang owner, it's tough finding an exhaust that sounds ok.
What do you expect Mustang is V8 :D of course V4 is another Sound. I dont like Loud exhaustion. Better to have a nice Sound than just being loud ^^
@@domeb7387 Of course, but even for a 4 pot, it sounds off. I want something with some growl with some pops here and there.
@@jo23bulls there should be an exhaustion that gets you some pops. For me personally i like that high sound ^^
@@domeb7387 V4?
Well theres your problem. Its an ecoboost. Get a big boy mustang and it will be very easy to find one.
The SOUND that STI throws out is just GNARLEY!
This video was awesome 👍 I love my RS but man i still have a soft spot for subarus in my heart
Same! I wish I didn't sell my wrx for the RS
The turbo sounds that Sti Makes good Lord!
For the guys saying the RS exhaust sounds bad,it was changed i tell you,this isn't the stock exhaust and i agree it sound like crap vs stock..
Sucks that Cali is so strict with their laws. Focus rs has a loud exhaust from factory lol. New veloster N is the same with all the pops and crackles. I prefer the rs if I was were to choose.
Sti sounds better looks cooler period
Sti looks like shit and the engine sucks balls
@@panagiotisf7228 you don't have a clue do you?
Why does the Focus sound like a 70's 2 stroke scooter? Both nice cars and great review thank you the similar vehicle comparison is a fun format.
James Metcalf it’s exhaust manifold setup coupled with its bore/stroke size/length
LOL @ "EVERYTHING has been touched, BUT the block" you just made a ticking time bomb have a shorter fuse bud
It's going to blow anyway man so why not ring its neck before it does,
Built engines blow up to and they dont last for long periods of time either
I think he’s good to go keepin it at around 400 or less. Like he said it’s detuned because of the internals but he’s got the setup for over 600. I’m guessin eventually he’ll go forges soon enough.
He’s fine with the power he’s making and E85.
With those mods, I feel like the engines reliability/longevity will come down to how aggressively the car is driven. If the owner put-puts around in it, I’m sure it will last... If he’s redlining that’s thing and boosting it up often, who knows. Both my WRX and now STi have been pretty unforgiving
Aaron C. Anyone who buys a WRX or STI to build and not do Subaru shit in it including launches and driving hard bought the wrong car I don’t get it. STI is to hoon not to make 400 hp to sit at 5% throttle and hard park it
I had to live in both worlds. 2017 RS DD and 2005 FXT fully STI swapped on e85. The focus is amazing, and I love it, but I can't tear my self away from my heart which lives with my XT.
Definitely need some more comparison videos like this. I enjoyed it.
Man, I gotta say, this video put the biggest smile on my face :). Wow those 2 cars are absolute monsters!
"everything on this car has been touched" begins to only list engine parts xd
Holy shit that RS sounds so bad it hurts my ears.
That how Prius will sounds like when u put an exhaust on it
I couldn't listen to the 2.3 note for longer than 2 hours. Sounds hideous
Sounds about 30x as shitty here as in person
The STIs canards are installed backwards...
holy shit lmao
The “new” California exhaust law isn’t really new. The 93 dB part has been in place since 2003 I believe. Just the lack of it being a fix it ticket has changed. My sti is turbo back, and all five of my cars I have had from 2003 to now all had load exhausts on them. Not once have I been pulled over for the exhaust being loud. I think this whole issue has been blow out of proportion.
It's 95dB.
@K L it is not a $1000 fine. The judge will probably dismiss the citation if you are 95dB or under. The actual fine is $193 plus court cost. The judge dismissed my exhaust citation.
7:29 "This car is built to handle 600hp... Except for the block"
This argument can be made for any car 😂
Not most Audis or VW
Actually usually the block is the one thing that can handle high power with ease
@@joshuawalcott321 "block" referring to the short-block, not just the physical block. The point I was making is that his statement is a flawed argument. He basically said this: the engine was built to handle 600 hp, as long as you upgrade all the parts that will prevent you from reaching 600 hp. You see the problem with that argument ;) ?
@@amgvlogs5087 no he's actually referring to the physical block itself because they will crack if you try to push too much power through them
@@joshuawalcott321 regardless my point stays the same. and how are you gonna say the block can handle high power, then come back and say its weak.
The only bad thing about modern STIs and WRXs is the lack of flared fenders. I have the same complaint about the RS. I love my flared fenders on my 2011 WRX. I get compliments on the car almost every day, which is nice too.
It's absolutely amazing how much more aggressive aftermarket flared fenders makes the current WRX/STI look...the whole car just looks meaner. This from the factory would have definitely made the car look like a much sportier total package.
The problem with the RS is the same problem with the Evo: they put good mods on shitty base cars. I have a regular Focus and have spent enough times in the forums realizing that the same stupid issues I have are all present on the RS and ST. Like cheap materials for one. Then stupid things breaking. So far with 90,000 miles the trunk wiring is completely broken giving the trunk open alert and reverse lights no longer work. The car has transmission problems (automatic) even though it go regular services. The engine mounts are bad even though no one's beating up the car. The headlights on the regular Focus are horrible, you can't see anything (put in LEDs). The windshield wipers are possibly the worst design I've ever seen, they rattle,and scrape and silicon blades to the same thing, it's just a poor design with no frame on the blade. The brakes are a pain in the ass to change thanks to that hex bolt you have to undo to get the calipers off. Both o2 sensors are bad. Stuff just breaks left and right. Which sucks because it does actually have cool seats, it's very comfortable, it handles the road really well, and it's really solid. I also really like the stock intake. I added a K&N filter to that and left it alone. I mean I clean it, but looking at the design a CAI didn't make much sense. Now I know you're thinking that's what you get with a base Focus, right? But you shouldn't. Quality is quality. I had a 2008 WRX. Hatchback, of course. That was a great car. What Subaru started with was a much better car overall and made it much better. I drove that car till 85,000 miles and traded it on a Rav4. I got $14,000 in trade for that. They hold their value really well. I had it for five years and when I bought it I paid just over $20,000 for it (it had 7,000 miles, so it was "pre-owned"). The Evos are another one that start out with a shitty car and start slapping on performance parts. Between these two, I'd go with the Subaru. I'd hate not having a hatchback for this type of car, but I trust Subaru a hell of a lot more than Ford. My WRX, I never once put synthetic oil in it. I had it tested every year because either Subaru or the dealership did one free yearly check-up. I never had any issues with the turbo. Hopefully the new WRX has a hatchback version and keeps the manual. And if that Type R by Honda ever gets AWD and 3 seats in the back instead of 2, that might be something to get.
The first guy is a little out there while the second guy is living in reality.
Even though the RS exhaust sounds horrible, the dive planes on the STI are installed backwards, which is also horrible.
Used to own subarus. Guy went through two engines not because of tuners but cause of driver use. I got (oem) 200k mile is300 2jz na-t, conservative tune 300whp with basic maintenance refresh.
I think they are more cult followed, and each party will make the case for their platform.
Why are you wearing a red tie...white shirt in your blues jacket..
detroy54321 Listen here AFI 36 2903. What difference does it make?
@@WelcomeToTheMadness yeah it does, disrespect to the uniform. If you wear it wear it right.
I wore it for 6 God damn years, and if I'm gonna wear if after I'm gonna wear it right. It's not a damn style it's a uniform.
detroy54321 a whole six years huh...that’s nice. This uniform is mine, it’s being taken care off. Don’t worry about it’s well being.
That's the best exhaust you could find for the RS? Is electronic dubstep your favorite music?
That STI turbo spool is insane.
Skyler Sommer lol ever heard a Saab 9-5 loudest stock turbo I’ve ever heard with a simple intake delete you can hear it legitimately a parking lot away.
I run a GC8 Impreza (modified and owned since 2002) and a Focus RS.
Despite the Impreza being 16 years older than the RS it's still a hoot to drive and quicker in a straight line than my Stage 1 RS.
If the latest STi was more tuneable and Open Source tuning was possible I'd be out of the RS and into an STi in a heartbeat.
I haven’t seen Your videos for a long time but coming back as a usual viewer. Still can’t believe you are still at 200k followers. Keep up the good work
STi making power on a stock block.... yikes!
it's a 2018 internals are revised
forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2877380
No. The 2018 sti still has the shitty cast pistons. Only the 18 type ra has stronger pistons and also the 19+
@@roykim5322 Even the RA has cast pistons. The new S209 will have forged pistons and rods though.
Jack Robertson ye I heard the ra pistons are a bit stronger than the previous 15-18 sti. S209 prices is gonna hurt people’s Wallets. Dealer markup is gonna be crazy
The way you guys film is so good it always helps tell the story about each car! I’m gonna try to film in that style!
That sti has so much tubo sound 🙌🏻
The quality on your videos ... idk if it was just the lighting or what but wow just stunning.
Focus Rs Is A Sick car but man the STI looks great, interior is nice, spacious. After all the street races etc I've been to. Wrx's & Sti's are some of the best sounding cars....Would love to own one some day..subarus are really safe as well...I've only driven a 2014 regular impreza hatchback, would like 2 experience a wrx or sti 🙂
Two cars face off with glass blocks haha
@@Turshin and then cries itself to sleep because it's the only one without offspring
Nicholas Butler but then he remembers he has a lotion bottle and some tissues
turshin you mean in a straight line right? Because the evo is definitely not better in the corners.
AC Gaming PCs you know the RS has a Mazda bottom end, Right?
@@IzakayaTonton Of course lol, albeit an open deck block design.
The fact that the Subie wasn't washed before the video was filmed really really irks me..
pdeuce2985 *sighs in rally car*
@@Kcroc coughs in daily driver
You are an idiot kek
That's the best part! If you drive your car hard enough you'll recognize how the dirt settles on it.
This dude drives
Thats the Subaru in its natural habitat
Both great cars and great owners who have their priorities right. I have owned STI hatchbacks and currently own 2017 RS hatchback. I miss the STI hatchback but also love driving the RS. If Subaru would bring back the STI hatchback I could see myself giving it a go again. Thanks for the video guys!
The canards on the STI are mounted incorrectly....
Happy I went with the borla s type for my RS after hearing this one 😬
Jmelgar how’s the borla exhaust? I’m trying to find an exhaust for my rs.
Me too. its nice and quiet, real throaty. I also have a decat pipe on mine and it still sounds quiet stock when cruising, no drone whatsoever
Such a dope RS! Awesome review of two great cars!
What bov is that sti running, oh my that sound is amazing compared to others.
Currently own my +500whp Focus RS, not gunna lie, that STI sounds sexy!
I think the best choice out of the two is definitely.... an EVO!
Alaska Young good choice
Lmao
I'll take the sti
@@NetomaMusic Did he say he'll take THAT STi? No. You won't go to the mechanic if you actually know how to drive and know what you're doing to the tune
Nicolas A have you even owned one? Much less driven one?
Nicolas A no no... not the same car man
Nicolas A You’re comparing your 11 WRX with this STi and all 15+ STi in general? That’s like judging how your sister in law is in bed
That color scheme with white black and gold is fire!!!
Would rather have a Mitsubishi evolution 9 platform to build on just a pity that mitsubishi stoped making the lancers . but out of these to would rather have the subaru out of the 2
darrin goodbrand as for a daily driver, weekend drag car, or track car?
Would recommend you get the front strut tower bar to enable the car to handle the extra HP, as well as the rear suspension link and arm packages; they are extras for WRX STIs, but they come as standard on the S208, probably the same with the S209.
Oh please come to Miami. You can drive 3 of my cars. 450hp Q50 RedSport, 800hp Evo8, and 1400hp MARK4 Supra
Dude, I love the curved rear wing spoiler on the RS! Where can I buy that at?
Very nice rides l like them both but i agree the sti is better but i like the look of the hatchback rs more than the 2015+ hence why im sticking with my 2011 Sti hatch. The Sti are overlooked IMO especially the 2011-2014 Sti's and will only go up in price even more than they have in the last year. Some of my car enthusiast friends that drove my 2011 sti, bunch of basic BMW M3, M5, 911 weekend track worrier types and even non BMW nice people, agree the sound from the 2011 sti is one of the best 4 cylinder engine noise out there. I cannot wait to get my 2011 sti hatch back from the shop with a new type RA engine, custom built Hill country turbo, bigger injectors, e85 etc only "tasteful mods". In my opinion the Cobb intake down pipe exhaust helps the sti to be the best sounding 4 cylinder car out there. I stayed with the unequal length headers ,sacrificed some power, just to keep the amazing sound this car makes. You just have to hear these Sti's in person that rumble from the boxer engine w the Cobb exhaust the subtle blow of sound from the cobb intake and also the blue flames from the exhaust is just the icing on the cake no other 4 banger produces as much drama for the $ as the sti does. The Sti is a future classic but im probably somewhat biased since i was always a fan of the Subaru wrx sti.
The driving experience you get from a manual car when you nail the shifts perfectly is something you will not get from a top end Tesla which is a great daily its so fast it will make you want to puke but it does that because its so quite there is no increasing engine noise to help your mind to anticipate that acceleration. The theatricality of an old fashioned turbo engine with its RPM and engine noise building up culminating in a perfect shift that kicks you back in to your seat will never be matched by an electric car no matter how fast it is.
Couldn’t have said it better myself😭🙌🏽 I own a ‘21 STI and I love mine.
RS and STI got its own people and preferences. But RS by far is an awesome machine and it's my top, top pick.
Sti-ly Subaru everytime all the way, looks, sound, performance, old and new. Nothing like the sound of an angry subie exhaust turbo spooling hard and the flutter of the bov 2 calm the tension!!!
the RS is one of the best looking cars around! no question hahaha
If you don’t mind, who were the two tuners of the STi? Remind me not to go to them 😅
Brilliant footage and content, keep it up 👍 🔥
Big turbo e85 STI only making 400whp meanwhile the stock turbo FBO e40 RS is making 380whp. OUCH!
He said the motor Is still stock internally so he's probably not trying to push the motor too hard. A rotated setup on an STI has a lot more room for power. 400whp is obtainable on a STI with a stock location turbo.
That guy has a lot of work done on that STI for only 400hp. Did he say stock short block assembly? That’s a lot of money on a rotated kit and supporting mods to install it on a stock block.
Both cool cars. Totally agree that you only need so much hp and something to be said about a well prepped and set up fast car than just huge power.
"My cars not very flashy", he says with a 6ft Spoiler :P
I'd take the sti myself but that silly wing would be coming off before anyone saw me in it.
Its not a wing, its a park bench...
How much money did it cost to get the much inferior STI up to 400hp? 4k? The RS only needs a Filter and a tune to make 400hp. Subaru STI needs an overhaul on their engine's.
The RS aesthetic mods are a little too boy racer for my taste but still a solid car. STI is more subtle aesthetically, but when she spools up omg…
Luckily you can pick up a type ra block fairly cheap now a days
I dont know why you didn't go over the mods, look under the hood of the cars... this was just a mashup of talking and side shots. Really would have loved to see the hard work done to the cars.
Mazda Guys: make an AWD Speed3
Ford: Say no more
RS: zuu tu tu tu tu
Was hoping for a side by side launch and 1/4 miles timing... disappointed ☹️. Sold, in the past my 2012 hatch STI stage 2, E85, riding Porsche now, all new world... I was keeping an eye on the RS but was wondering if it’s more reliable now (2018 2019), also which one is the fastest on those 2 models in this video... (could careless of the exhaust noise)... No offense but I smoke a guy with his STI, same setting and Turbo/exhaust noise as this video, pretty embarrassing making all those “performances noise” and stay behind... Anyway, which one should be the fastest in your opinion?
Solid video. WRX STI owner here. Always loved the RS.
The RS looks amazing, haters going to hate like always.
With the right exhaust setup RS's can sound good.
Not sure you can say "Power and Efficiency" as a means to describe the STI engine. Basically the same engine as over 10 years ago which is showing. Not in the same league as its rivals in terms of power and efficiency.
Its a cool car, particularly that one and the way it looks, but really it hasn't evolved nearly enough and what used to be the bench mark has really been left behind by its rivals.
Great quality contend Marcus, you are now putting out some of the best quality on TH-cam. As an Sti owner, I agree with your conclusions too. Although, I like the basic layout of Sti interior, the plastics are pretty nasty, but then other than the seats, in the RS the interior looks very low rent. Golf R kills them both of interior quality but, that car doesn't excite me one bit.
That was effectively my take. Absolutely spectacular interior that puts others in its relative class to shame, but not quite a comparable degree of driving excitement.
Im a Subaru fan, but both cars are good looking cara. I prefer the STI for much reasons, but the Focus if you see on person looks so good too.
Thanks for your video
Why did they make the power band like a Fiesta ST...? Thought that was the trade off of a small turbo, I thought it would work like big turbos work and just keep pulling all the way to redline.. more fun than low down torque but then it's less usable so I guess it makes sense really....
so its not built to take 600hp because the block is a fuck massive part of that
Both cars a awesome. I own both and there great cars. If i had to choose it would be the sti no question.
spool in the STI is very awesome, luv it
Truly would be super epic and nautical to go on quick canyon runs and races at night with these cars.. ughh drifting in the wintery fresh snow of the Cali Mountains would be so so siiickk
lmao they even got the look down as well, talk about stereotypes
Only thing i dont like about the RS is the sound..if you ever heard the dying cow in(me myself and irene) thats what it sound like.the popping gets old everytime u shift but besides that is great.
I owned an sti before my RS. Both "made" make 400awhp and the RS was faster, period. For a track car the RS wins no competition. But my sti was a better CAR, period. It was built better, it was less miserable to live with as a daily. It was easier to work on, parts were easier to get, after market parts were overwhelmingly abundant and cheaper etc etc. If I were to buy ether again "yes I know the RS isnt made anymore" I would go with the sti. Especially if subi removes head from ass and replaces the ancient engine.
Herp Derp Our local engine builders hate the design of the Subaru’s engine and they don’t understand why they stick with it. They really try to steer people away from doing big power builds. They themselves will tell you even investing big dollars into a EJ doesn’t mean it will hold. Once you take the engine apart and look at it. You would also know what there talking about. Then you even look at the 4G63 and you start to understand why Evos are so much faster and make so much more power.
Plus they don’t like to rev while. 4G63 can rev to the moon.
That sti looks sharp, the rs looks tacky withe the ricer contrasting hood, stretched tires and tinted lights
um, did you miss the tacky STI park bench that that fella thinks is a spoiler?
Somehow I love how dirty the Subaru is
Jesus Rodriguez is cleaner than mine
What kind of exhaust is on the RS in this video? Isn't it Borla S type catback ? It actually sounds sensational inside the car as well as outside. I have the stock exhaust on my 2017 RS but rear seats and all carpeting removed from the rear side of the car and the noise with the stock exhaust is much louder now. I cannot imagine how loud would it be inside if I swapped stock exhaust for the one in this video ❤
Update: The exhaust on this RS is a perfect match for this car. Would you list your mods on the car? Especially the exhaust?
Very inspiring video. Good placement of front license plate - haven't thought of it before - not many cars here in Europe have front license plate moved to the side of the car.
Greetings from Czechia
Sad to see the STI with that big of turbo is on E85 makes poop power due to the factory block.
He could have went to a smaller turbo set up and made a way better power band for the stock block.
Had a focus back in 2000 it look exactly the same as it does now
That man needs to take the s209 badge off the back of that thing right now
I think it was an S208 badge
8000$ or more in mods and e85 and the subie only makes 400whp, that’s nuts?!? My evo x with stock turbo on pump gas makes 380whp. Sti’s just don’t make sense to me
Put the German exhaust on it that retains the two mode for loud and quiet.
no one who puts all that work in their car wants to hear "but the STI definitely makes a better daily"
As an owner of a b4 legacy I can say that sound wise, no four cylinder is better sounding than a flat 4
More of that STI!
The sound of the RS is just not my thing.
It doesn't revv very high and you can't hear the turbo enough(if at all)...quite a raspy exhaust on this one as well.
Really like the look the owner went for though, with the front mods and black hood, it looks hella aggressive.
I like how you can hear the turbo on the STI, and a flat 4 just sounds more exotic...so yeah, STI for me.
Both very cool cars nonetheless, thx for sharing!
Interested in what exhaust that RS uses that makes it sound like a dying vespa. Meanwhile the STI sounds like a Dyson since he put equal headers
Equal headers and stock exhaust 🤢🤢🤢
Where was this shot, guys?
Subaru wrx sti 400hp stock block are reliable?
I don't know if anyone agrees with me on this or not. One of the most frustrating things that i see is putting a wing like that on any car. How do people think that looks good compared to the clean look of the stock STI wing or no wing. I guess it's just my opinion but holy shit these huge wings that people put on cars look like absolute shit to me. It reminds me of 12 year old boy customizing a car in a video game.
Thats actually the stock wing for the the STi S209, its a real functional wing. Function over form.
I don’t know if Roads Untraveled read a post I sent around a week or two ago, but I asked for him to do a video like this, where he does comparisons between tuned cars. Maybe he read it, maybe he didn’t, but it looks like I know what his channel should be moving towards haha