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14:07 the official name (most universally used by Sonic players) is the Spin Charge Jump. Some people call it the "Charge Shot" based on a video made on Sonic's basics about 5 years ago. Spin Charge Jump is also NOT a Spin Shot. They are not the same. And 14:53 this aerial version here that Sonix does is actually a Spin Shot, difference is that he does it with down B. This inputs for this version of spin shot are practically frame perfect
I love Banjo Kazooie but am a bit disappointed in their lack of traditional bnb combos... Seeing what can be done with Breegull Blaster makes me wanna head back to the lab.
Predictions for the next part: - DK Headbutt Edge-Cancel - Peach's Float Cancel - Reverse Sharking/2-Framing (IDK if it has a name) with Drill Rush, Octaslash or Skyward Slash Dash - PT's Quick switch Cancel - Lucas's DJ Zair - Mac's Gazelle Punch - Mac's Fair or Dair Double Jump Boost - Brawler's Dropkick Boosting - Landing with Brawler's Aerial Suplex - Dial Storage - Instant Pin - Plant's Drop Shot or Spallow - One of the many Remote Bomb, Nana, Pikmin, Luma or Pacman tech - Something Footstool related - Shield-shifting while holding a Bomb with a fuse for the youngster Links, Snake, Jr. and Banjo (Not sure if you'd call this a character specific tech, but thought it was cool regardless) (We won't forget you, Gordo Boosted Super Dedede Jump) Hopefully you're back to 100% soon.
Since we are talking about competitive techs, Bayonetta's witch strike/single hit up-B definitely deserves a spot. A jp player was able to hit top 10 in the world for the first season of 2024 mostly just through his mastery of this tech.
I'm shocked Float Cancel didn't get a mention. It even bypasses the short hop damage nerf, an effect similar to R.O.B.'s up-B shenanigans mentioned in this video.
I’m gonna be the essay guy bc i’m incredibly invested in this game and love it a bunch, you don’t have to read allat if you aren’t interested but i enjoy talking abt the game so here goes. you should 100% put peach/daisy on the list. Everyone knows peach is the most demanding character in ssbu tech wise, but with that said the tech that she does have, isn’t necessarily “broken” bc you can’t use it all match, you need very specific openings. the two techs i recommend looking into are JCFF, and ADC. 1: JCFF or Jump Cancel Fast Fall, is exactly what it sounds like. It makes peach’s nuetral, movement, and SHEILD PRESSURE so much fucking better. if you watch muteace play the game ever you will notice how he does this all game, it practically looks like a super duper fast fall. most ppl joke about playing peach causing carpal tunnel and or arthritis, presumably due to the crazy combos she’s has, which is part of it. but this performing this tech every few seconds of every game is no doubt a likely cause to hand pain. the tech is performed by holding the jump button, holding down on the joystick, then letting go of the jump button within 2 frames, what it’s practically doing is activating float for one frame, then canceling the next, cause peach to fall incredibly fast. it sounds somewhat easy, but incorporating moving and aerials to that makes it pretty damn hard. 2:ADC or Air Dodge Cancel, is a tech that allows peach to throw a turnip, recatch it, and throw it again within a few frames.(by a few i mean no more than 5, it’s fucking crazy) To perform this you need to throw the turnip, you can do a rising forward or down toss, then pressing shield, then inputting another throw within 2 frames. it’s incredibly tight inputs and rlly hard to perform. plenty of guides out there. Now with all that yapping out the way, i do not expect you to perform these at all. but, it’d be a great thing to shine light on. sorry for yapping😭
Love that you took the time to learn each and every one of these techs so that you better explain and demonstrate them! Love the extra effort that goes into making these videos! Edit:Get better MockRock! It sucks getting sick. ...
@7:02 Rob being +2 on shield and saying "that's not a thing in smash ultimate" is with an asterisk because: Ice climbers have aerials that are +3, +2, and +0 on shield, just because of nana adding to the shield stun. (fair, nair, and bair)
Banjo has a really good tech exclusive to his neutral special? that means KIRBY has that tech too! that means I have to learn it! I... have to... learn the hardest tech in the video... :(
hope you get well soon mockrock! I hope you include the universal technique to instantly end the game vs min-min Start ---> Down 4 times --> a --> right --> a makes the matchup so much more fun to play
i think it's more specifically that the aerials are the same regardless, but doing them out of up-b is considered something akin to a command input for a special move, and thus turns them into special moves for the sake of shieldstun ( note how in the formula, the aerial modifier _isn't_ some sort of move-based shieldstun multiplier that's standardized for all aerials, but is instead a separate factor applied based on the move's classification _on top of_ the move's own shieldstun multiplier )
Hope you feel better soon Shulk’s monado storage is one I hope to see in the second half; monado arts is already so crazy that giving it a one frame startup is just incredible
Ngl I've always liked this channel, but I feel like Mock is levelling up lately and this video really shows that. Peak explanations of tech, fun to watch the content creator try to do the tech rather than only showing clips of practiced players doing it. Good shit broski
One thing about the Steve technique, you had Samus directional airdodge which makes the invincibility frames come out later. Still Steve is cracked and that technique can just be absurd especially for his ladder combos
I don't think it's going to be in the second part of the video, but I think it would be interesting if you talked about Greninja's Hydro Pump ledge cancel.
My favorite is ganondorf's instant off stage action if you end a wizard's foot just as ganon is going off the stage. Its a tight window, but I like to buffer a side B so if your down B got dodged or maybe youre being chased, its anninstant turnaround. I dont know the frame data but if you know how to space it, its a great tool for opening someone up off of the command grab since you also catch people who instinctively go for a counter as well as shields.
Why do they TECHNICALLY have the names for the Spin Dash and Spin Charge reversed. In the classic games (which Sonic’s moveset is based off) you mash the button for a spin dash. What they call the spin dash is the one from Adventure, where you hold the button. And before you “erm actually” me, Sonic’s moveset is based off of Sonic the Fighters (or Sonic Champions for its original run in America). Which released before Sonic Adventure, which marks the start of the modern era,
In the next one can you talk a little about the charizard armored up b tech. I cant do it consistently and dont see it in competitive alot but i think its a sick tech that leads to some cool things
Ahh mockrock, I’ve missed u (ik u haven’t been gone that long but I went through a phase where I only watched u before I went to bed, so it feels like you’ve been gone ages)
What's extremely stupid about this game is that they had years to balance the game and still make dlc extremely stupid without thinking about base game characters
Where is ddds insane ohko option? He can use it to escape any scenario and basically turn the entire game upside down. It’s banned in hundreds of tournaments simply due to how broken it is. Using it will always cause the opponent to not only lose the game, but lose their mental power as well. Stupid sexy penguin
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I used to love strike force, if you're gonna sink money and time into a free to play rpg, you could do a lot worse as a marvel fan
Marvel made their own auto battler gatcha?
God fucking damn it.
I miss the tech in brawl where you scream as loud as you can when getting chain thrown by icies so they mess it up
Icies grabs you? Scream like you're being murdered because it SURE FEELS LIKE IT
ah yes the mike haze special
Sonic has a really cool tech where if you only use spin dash/spin charge for the entire game, your opponent walks away from the match
Yeah I get caught by that waaaaay to much, although when he does it sometimes it forces me to ragequit and do smthn else, might be some new tech
Yo I've heard of this one! It's called a "Friendship Cancel" or something like that
8:24 I'm so glad he brought the Kazuya Mishima remix back from the "Every Character's Best Move" video.
“That’s cool Kazuya but what’re your thoughts on current Global Economic Trends?”
K A Z U Y A M I S H I M A
@@ThisAintGood. He probably thinks sneakers are overpriced
The most broken tech by far is the online lag exploit, activate it by entering an online game.
Goes hand in hand with the input delay tech
I love this tech as a Ness main because it literally is the only way to make the Ness archetype good lol
@@iantaakalla8180 them and corrin
"Eat your opponent's controller" is some bold risky tech as an option
Get well soon!
Ditto!
Bad video no throw ur controller at ur opponent tech
Ah, but thats not character unique. Shouldve been mentioned though.
What is this? A melee tournament? Besides, a better tech is bathing in shit before a match to distract your opponent. Typical melee tourney behavior
@@PigAnimatesPoorly yeah but i think only low tier chars can pulk it off
I used that one on my little cousin yesterday 😂 GG no re
Every character and player can do this, though
14:07 the official name (most universally used by Sonic players) is the Spin Charge Jump. Some people call it the "Charge Shot" based on a video made on Sonic's basics about 5 years ago. Spin Charge Jump is also NOT a Spin Shot. They are not the same.
And 14:53 this aerial version here that Sonix does is actually a Spin Shot, difference is that he does it with down B. This inputs for this version of spin shot are practically frame perfect
Fire pfp!
I love Banjo Kazooie but am a bit disappointed in their lack of traditional bnb combos... Seeing what can be done with Breegull Blaster makes me wanna head back to the lab.
Predictions for the next part:
- DK Headbutt Edge-Cancel
- Peach's Float Cancel
- Reverse Sharking/2-Framing (IDK if it has a name) with Drill Rush, Octaslash or Skyward Slash Dash
- PT's Quick switch Cancel
- Lucas's DJ Zair
- Mac's Gazelle Punch
- Mac's Fair or Dair Double Jump Boost
- Brawler's Dropkick Boosting
- Landing with Brawler's Aerial Suplex
- Dial Storage
- Instant Pin
- Plant's Drop Shot or Spallow
- One of the many Remote Bomb, Nana, Pikmin, Luma or Pacman tech
- Something Footstool related
- Shield-shifting while holding a Bomb with a fuse for the youngster Links, Snake, Jr. and Banjo (Not sure if you'd call this a character specific tech, but thought it was cool regardless)
(We won't forget you, Gordo Boosted Super Dedede Jump)
Hopefully you're back to 100% soon.
Since we are talking about competitive techs, Bayonetta's witch strike/single hit up-B definitely deserves a spot. A jp player was able to hit top 10 in the world for the first season of 2024 mostly just through his mastery of this tech.
Meta Knight players call the technique involving using Drill Rush to 2-frame by going down and around the ledge the Condor Dive.
@ Ooooo, that's a good handle.
I'm shocked Float Cancel didn't get a mention. It even bypasses the short hop damage nerf, an effect similar to R.O.B.'s up-B shenanigans mentioned in this video.
@@L1N3R1D3R this is just part 1
The first airdash character in Smash was supposed to be like... a Guilty Gear rep, not *_Sonic._*
no, it was supposed to be madeline from celeste
To be fair, it's very lore accurate that Sonic is both able to do it and would screw over people's expectations.
I’m gonna be the essay guy bc i’m incredibly invested in this game and love it a bunch, you don’t have to read allat if you aren’t interested but i enjoy talking abt the game so here goes. you should 100% put peach/daisy on the list. Everyone knows peach is the most demanding character in ssbu tech wise, but with that said the tech that she does have, isn’t necessarily “broken” bc you can’t use it all match, you need very specific openings. the two techs i recommend looking into are JCFF, and ADC.
1: JCFF or Jump Cancel Fast Fall, is exactly what it sounds like. It makes peach’s nuetral, movement, and SHEILD PRESSURE so much fucking better. if you watch muteace play the game ever you will notice how he does this all game, it practically looks like a super duper fast fall. most ppl joke about playing peach causing carpal tunnel and or arthritis, presumably due to the crazy combos she’s has, which is part of it. but this performing this tech every few seconds of every game is no doubt a likely cause to hand pain. the tech is performed by holding the jump button, holding down on the joystick, then letting go of the jump button within 2 frames, what it’s practically doing is activating float for one frame, then canceling the next, cause peach to fall incredibly fast. it sounds somewhat easy, but incorporating moving and aerials to that makes it pretty damn hard.
2:ADC or Air Dodge Cancel, is a tech that allows peach to throw a turnip, recatch it, and throw it again within a few frames.(by a few i mean no more than 5, it’s fucking crazy) To perform this you need to throw the turnip, you can do a rising forward or down toss, then pressing shield, then inputting another throw within 2 frames. it’s incredibly tight inputs and rlly hard to perform. plenty of guides out there.
Now with all that yapping out the way, i do not expect you to perform these at all. but, it’d be a great thing to shine light on. sorry for yapping😭
Love that you took the time to learn each and every one of these techs so that you better explain and demonstrate them! Love the extra effort that goes into making these videos!
Edit:Get better MockRock! It sucks getting sick. ...
Damn. I was just getting into it. Fascinating video, hope you feel better soon, can't wait for part 2
Really cool seeing Banjo do a (almost) complete 180 on how people view him.
@7:02 Rob being +2 on shield and saying "that's not a thing in smash ultimate" is with an asterisk because:
Ice climbers have aerials that are +3, +2, and +0 on shield, just because of nana adding to the shield stun. (fair, nair, and bair)
I just it love when TH-camrs are handed a sponsored script and it sounds nothing like their usual work.
smash ultimate giving 90% of the character specific tech to top tiers who would be top tier even without said tech
Banjo has a really good tech exclusive to his neutral special? that means KIRBY has that tech too!
that means I have to learn it!
I... have to... learn the hardest tech in the video...
:(
Hope you get to feeling well! Great video as always so far though. Glad you brought the Kazuya Mishima song back too
Bro forgot about the playing shirtless Sephiroth and then your opponent can’t focus on the game because shirtless Sephiroth
I completely understand the need for two parts and I hope you get better soon!!
Heal up. Love your videos and happy to see more when you aren't ill!
hope you get well soon mockrock! I hope you include the universal technique to instantly end the game vs min-min
Start ---> Down 4 times --> a --> right --> a
makes the matchup so much more fun to play
7:42
Yeah, had a feeling Rob's aerials out of Up-B labelled them under the Special Shieldstun multiplier.
i think it's more specifically that the aerials are the same regardless, but doing them out of up-b is considered something akin to a command input for a special move, and thus turns them into special moves for the sake of shieldstun ( note how in the formula, the aerial modifier _isn't_ some sort of move-based shieldstun multiplier that's standardized for all aerials, but is instead a separate factor applied based on the move's classification _on top of_ the move's own shieldstun multiplier )
A couple that I hope to see on the next are:
Bayo witch strike
Lucas djcz
Ice climbers blizzard wave dash
Get well soon
Dude, yeah. Happy you're resting up. Thanks for the video and hope you recover quickly!
Nice video, feel better soon!!
Hope you feel better soon
Shulk’s monado storage is one I hope to see in the second half; monado arts is already so crazy that giving it a one frame startup is just incredible
Love to see you back when you are fit again!
Ngl I've always liked this channel, but I feel like Mock is levelling up lately and this video really shows that. Peak explanations of tech, fun to watch the content creator try to do the tech rather than only showing clips of practiced players doing it.
Good shit broski
One thing about the Steve technique, you had Samus directional airdodge which makes the invincibility frames come out later. Still Steve is cracked and that technique can just be absurd especially for his ladder combos
The ROB up b thing used to happen with Peach's float as well in very early versions of Ultimate, but luckily they patched that out...
the intro gets even more refined every time I come back to the channel
Glad to see you prioritize your own health and taking a big break. Hope you get better soon MockRock 💖
Hope you are recovering well excited for part 2
I wait in anticipation for the lucas zair section
Nice video, Mock! Take your time and heal up. This virus going around is nasty stuff.
I don't think it's going to be in the second part of the video, but I think it would be interesting if you talked about Greninja's Hydro Pump ledge cancel.
Wow, I remember Sonic's spin shot from back in the brawl days. Interesting that it carried over into smash 4/ultimate and never got patched.
Damn! That closing part...you look ROUGH, man! Get well soon!
GET WELL SOON MOCKROCK. WE LOVE YOUR VIDEOS❤
Get well soon ☺️
My favorite is ganondorf's instant off stage action if you end a wizard's foot just as ganon is going off the stage. Its a tight window, but I like to buffer a side B so if your down B got dodged or maybe youre being chased, its anninstant turnaround. I dont know the frame data but if you know how to space it, its a great tool for opening someone up off of the command grab since you also catch people who instinctively go for a counter as well as shields.
It's called an edge cancel which can be done with most moves maybe I don't know much about ultimate
8:34 that's the Smash equivalent of saying "fire is hot"
surprised you didn't mention the kazuya back down tilt trip-push them off nair extension tech tbh
Leo has said previously he’s not good against kirby and his characters also don’t do well against him
Get well soon! Your health of course takes priority
Would a Luigi cyclone escape* that steve combo?
Hope u feel better and get some rest soon, good luck with that and stay safe!!
Feel better soon!
Feel better, man
I wonder if Displaced Phantom will be on here. Turns some match-ups for Zelda into really good ones or evens them up.
surprise mockrock video!! thank u.. i love everything you make. get well soon!
There's so much more info he could've gone into regarding Sonic's SD, SC, SDJ, and SCJ tech that didn't get mentioned and I'm sad about it. :(
Why do they TECHNICALLY have the names for the Spin Dash and Spin Charge reversed. In the classic games (which Sonic’s moveset is based off) you mash the button for a spin dash. What they call the spin dash is the one from Adventure, where you hold the button. And before you “erm actually” me, Sonic’s moveset is based off of Sonic the Fighters (or Sonic Champions for its original run in America). Which released before Sonic Adventure, which marks the start of the modern era,
Get well soon bud
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Brutal man, keep up the good work but make sure to take the time you need to recover
Bro looks like spongebob with the plague
U can spin shot with down b (Down B - Release - Jump/Attack)
Get well soon!
15:55
"There I am, ma!"
In the next one can you talk a little about the charizard armored up b tech. I cant do it consistently and dont see it in competitive alot but i think its a sick tech that leads to some cool things
What about parrying ROB's up b attack? You just kinda spoke about on shield.
I expect Lucas djcz somewhere. Fsdjcz especially.
So that's why you randomly said "banjo" in the Banjocord!
Get well soon MockRock, don’t worry, just try to get better!
Ahh mockrock, I’ve missed u (ik u haven’t been gone that long but I went through a phase where I only watched u before I went to bed, so it feels like you’ve been gone ages)
Oof, get well soon!
8:24 fire bro🔥
"Kazuya's EWG is a good move" xb
Get well soon! Good video!
I see Wicked's had influence in how people surprise with 2-Parters
Only this time it's by the order of Mother Nature herself...oof
Clearly the most op move a character can have is 'super spreader'. Get well soon mate.
*gestures vaguely at steve*
What's extremely stupid about this game is that they had years to balance the game and still make dlc extremely stupid without thinking about base game characters
Most of the broken dlcs came just before COVID so patches ended before the tech could get shown at tourneys
Might want to put a part 1 on the video title
robs up b is called burner boosting
hope you feel better mr youtuber
prediction: at least 4 of them are steve
Correct🎉, breegal blaster hasn't met the full potential.
GET WELL SOON!!
Yo kazuya and even snake for that matter can waveland in a single jump onto plats just down stick it
That what happens if you make them lore accurate
Rest and gain your strength good sir
Where is ddds insane ohko option? He can use it to escape any scenario and basically turn the entire game upside down. It’s banned in hundreds of tournaments simply due to how broken it is. Using it will always cause the opponent to not only lose the game, but lose their mental power as well.
Stupid sexy penguin
"Jeeves, ban all these charcters."
Hope you get better soon so you can talk about a boy and his snake
Ahhh, that explains the duration
hoping bro feels better
ahhhh shit here we go! thank you mock!!
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No.1: steve
Nothing in particular, just... steve
Holy sickness jumpscare
Surprised you can even find 10 considering it's Ultimate
I got RSV this weekend top!
Ayo, new intro!
Please tell me he mentions Sonic's air dash.