I came from the Fold3 to Ultra 23...I can't say I miss the fold. The fold is an amazing phone, but I spent most of my time using the front screen and I honestly got tired of the weight, so it made sense when given the opportunity I decided to go with the Ultra. I love it just as much as I loved the Fold when I first got it. I don't think you can go wrong with either, but I'm really enjoying the Ultra.
I have a Fold 3 Still because the 4 did not justify an upgrade and I almost never use the outer display. My only complaint with a Fold is that it does not mount on my bike or car very easily when on the move. It will be hard to go back to a regular size phone to be honest. If you did not open it up it made sense for you to get rid of it for sure. The S23 looks like a Note Ultra light so that is out of the question . Hopefully the ZFold 5 offers a smaller pen that fits inside and works like a Note.
For me after first using the fold 3 & now the fold 4, I realize I can never go to a regular phone again because of the ability to watch TH-cam or movies. I mean it's like I'm watching on a mini TV
Yeah, i feel like i use the top screen more often and especiall in bed, a bigger front screen would do better for me. I might just get whatever next ultra is released in august 2023 when im done paying my fold
Currently have the fold 4--- will try the s23 ultra--- I figured when I want a massive screen to watch movies or TH-cam on the go--- I just USB-C connect the phone to a portable monitor costing only another 80$..... 16 inch screen can be brought anywhere--- and when on the go--- not having to compromise with a much larger main screen with the s23 ultra vs the slim screen on the fold 4--- 🎉
Using ZF3 since it is released and am amazed with it every day. It's such a great device, and I can't stop appreciating it. I reduced my usage of tablet and PC since I can complete most of the things with it (signing documents, reading docs, editing photos using light room etc). I don't think I can move back to slab phone. Very excited for ZF5.
i had the same problem. watched many videos comparing the two and ended up buying the S23 Ultra. Only because of the camera and the possibilities of damgage in the hinges of the Fold 4. Do I have any regrets buying the S23U? No. But i still watch these comparison vids almost every other day to see if I had made the right decision. lmao
Update: after about half a day of use. While the ultra is amazing. The z fold 4 does indeed feel better watching movies is just way more immersive. Reading way more immersive. Split screen still kinda sucks on the ultra because it's too small. Split screen on the fold is like two phones. No competition. S pen use is also way better on the fold due to the large canvas. My movies are significant larger than the ultra. I do like the higher res on the ultra and the good aspect ratio for all content. But for everything else z fold 4. Even the cameras. You really don't notice huge differences unless you compare. Z fold 4 right now. But might change as I use it more. Shall see. Thanks
@@treblemix_ but why? It's the full size. It just has black bars. And when you don't use those specific apps or what not. Things are almost full screen. Like TH-cam is a lot larger video than the s23 ultra
Definitely went with the S23 Ultra. I was going to go with the Z Fold 4 based on it being different, interesting, and intriguing look. I've never had a phone with so much productivity power to it. But what drew me toward the S23 ultra was the battery, its performance, and its esthetics looks. It's beautiful! 🐬
Long time iPhone user here. I switched my iPhone 14 pro max with this Samsung fold 4, first time ever using a android phone, i give it a try, took me almost like 4 full days to figure it out, and still learning something new once in a while, love this phone, i don't see myself going back to iPhone ever.
As a user of the S23U, I'm certainly happy with my purchase. I returned my S22U (purchased on sale just before the S23 release) and I truly enjoy the upgrades and this phone. This mostly has to do with the processor. I heard about the difference with the 8Gen1 and 8+Gen1 after the switch to TSMC (sorry if I got the acronym wrong). I knew that the 8Gen2 would be a beast. I underestimated the actual difference that the processor would make. I guess my only complaint is the name. It's a Note 23. They should've simply changed the release schedule. I am very happy with my N23.
And before I'm labeled as a fanboy....I'm not. I've only now grown a liking to One UI. There's just a few things that I really enjoy (like the floating bubbles and the SPen), and those are features that I use a lot. A LOT.
Yeah I agree. Haven't bought a flagship in years since I feel like there hasn't really been a point. Been mostly sticking with the midrange phones but I am so glad I chose now to get back into the flagship market. My favorite thing so far has been the emulation capabilities. Waiting for my backbone controller to arrive so I can truly dive in.
They probably wanted to get away with Note label (specially S7 Note is forever connected with it), with having 3 type of S flagships it’s good time to retire it with the 10.
I've been struggling with this exact thing myself, thank you for making this video! I have an S22 Ultra which I like but I did really want the Fold. The reason I didn't get it is because I was living in CA and tended to end up at the beach a lot so I was concerned about messing the fold up with sand. I still want it and am not living in CA currently so I'm reconsidering... I like how quickly my S22 charges and how long my battery lasts which I think would be even better on the S23. I have an iPad mini which I use as my handheld tablet but honestly I find myself using my phone more. If my phone could truly replace my tablet I'd sell it. I have an iPad Pro that I use for bigger projects/drawing/notebooks but having something handheld for reading, videos, and multitasking is great. I wish I could rent a Fold to see how I like it. I've played with it briefly when friends have one but couldn't get the full experience that way. The pen situation for the Fold sucks for me, as I love the built-in. I am also obsessed with my PopWallet as it's easy to hold my phone and fits my license and CC so that's all I have to bring with me. Easy and slim profile. I don't see a great case option where I could have the pen and the PopWallet which is kind of a deal breaker even though it makes me sad. This video is making me really tempted to go for the Fold but I might wait to see if they ever integrate the pen. I'd like to see that, a bigger external screen, and faster charging. Thanks again :)
Do not get the fold the screen will split down the middle I just opened it and it cracked samsung says its not covered under the warranty which socks as this is a common problem which many people have been left with a phone they cannot use anymore samsung suck !!
Im switching from a Zfold3 to an S23 Ultra later today. I loved my fold, I was incredibly excited when I first got it. I still love the fold, but im ready for a regular phone again. I dont do tons of work on my phone, so unfolded was basically for videos and games. While I did love streaming on the fold, most videos have black bars. So its like im watching on a horizontal screen anyway. The weight of the fold does get annoying. Anytime I was on an app that wasnt video or gaming related, I was on the front screen. So im just ready to go back to 1 screen.
I might've considered trading in my Z4 for the S23U, except Samsung got comparatively cheap on the incentives this time around. When I bought the Z4 (on release day) they offered $1K for the S22U, Z3, and even the Z2, along with a second-device trade-in and generous store credits toward the watch & buds combo. For the S23U, they only offered $750 for my Z4 (!!!), no second trade-in, and less store credit. That's a hard pass for me and a hugely disappointing low-ball insult to their Z4, which I enjoy quite a bit. It's easier to hold while folded, which is how I use it most of the time, and it's still plenty powerful for all I do. My two wishes would be having the external display be pen-capable and a spot to store the pen, even if it means bumping up the width.
I took a hard look at both. The Fold4 was too heavy and too costly for the end benefit. Went with the S23U. If the Fold5 thins down, trims some weight, and finds an alternative hinge design (teardrop?) I will be back to reconsider.
Interested in the fold 5 but I'm hearing it's not that big a jump... Especially on camera. I'm using the s21 ultra still. I really want a fold, but I want it to be better than what I currently got in all aspects.
Samsung is holding back on making their foldable phone better than the galaxy ultra devices, which is preventing many of us to buy into their foldable devices
Just got a fold 4 from a iphone 13, had to choose between the 23 utlra and the fold 4 but for me im big into gaming and watching movies and the fold when unfolded is awesome for watching netflix etc and for gaming when i use my xbox game pass and contoller ive basically got a mini xbox lol so happy with this phone and will be getting the next fold for sure
For the speaker test, you had the phones standing up, so you're blocking the sound from the bottom speaker. I have a Fold 3 and the speakers sound much more louder and fuller than my sister's S23U so unless they downgraded the speakers on the Fold 4, something's not right.
I'm still rocking my z fold 2. Love the phone and the fact that I don't see many people with it is one of the best features. Its like having a tablet when you need it but with a smaller footprint.
It's always a nice conversation starter at times too I've found. I have a Flip and people approach me pretty often about it. Which is cool if you like to be social and find other techies.
I´ve had my fold 4 for some months now and I must say, It for sure doesn´t disappoint. However, you do have to keep it nice and clean and be very cautious with it, nevertheless as a person who likes to take care of his stuff it´s not an issue for me :)
@@pepperidgedave if its closed its fine. While closed its extremely durable, maybe even more durable than a regular phone since it is basically two "durable" metal slabs holding together. It's fragile when its open. The only thing fragile about the fold is the inner screen itself. The hinge is extremely strong, and so is the rest of the phone. If you protect the inner screen itself, everything is fine
@@azenyr i still haven't put a screen protector on the steam deck and it's really dirty with no noticeble cracks. If i get the fold im prob going for the warranty like he said. Steam deck was 650. This is 1800
Nice combo. I also decided to stay with the Z Fold4 since the S23 Ultra lacked expandable memory. If we have to move away from expandable memory, I might as well move on to a foldable and other phones.
I'm surprised you make this sound like a hard choice. I used the Fold 4 for 4mo. I downgraded to a used S22 Ultra. Here are my thoughts: Fingerprint scanning is a non issue. On the Fold 4 it's at a good location (on the power button) and feels intuitive to use. But the in display scanner on the Ultra is fine. Despite my S22 Ultra being 1yr old, it still easily gets me through one day on a single charge. I could never do that on the Fold 4. The downside about the Fold 4 running out of battery so fast is that it has slow charging! This thing charges sooooo slow. My S22 Ultra has fast charging and I freaking love it. The S22 Ultra has 10x optical zoom while the Fold 4 is stuck at 3x optical. I use the 10x a lot. So the S22 Camera wins here easily. Yeah the Fold 4 has a big folding display. But do you really need it? I have found that I can easily live without it. But it does depend on your needs. If you use it to take notes in college, then it's cool. It's also cool for multitasking and for entertainment. But are these benefits worth the the downsides? Depends on your needs. For me the answer was "no." A downside to the Fold is that it has a narrow front display. I actually dislike this a lot. I found that I was unfolding it more than I really needed to because I was sick of the narrow front display. Makes it hard to text. They should have made it shorter and wider like the Pixel Fold. The crease is a non issue. Don't even think about it. But is the screen durable enough to last years folding and unfolding? Time will tell. Given the price of the Fold line they really need to boost it up a bit. They need to add AT LEAST ONE feature from the Ultra lineup: fast charging, 10x optical zoom or bigger battery. Or all three! If you can't do a bigger battery (size constraints) than give us fast charging as to be able to top it off quickly. It charges sooooo slow. And throw in the 10x optical. They are being too conservative because they don't want it to outshine the Ultra lineup. But this is silly. It's a super expensive phone few will buy. So why does it matter if it completely outshines the Ultra lineup? Samsung is weird. Anyway, the Ultra easily wins in this comparison. For now.
It is a hard choice so i have both. When i am traveling or going to be away fom a charger all day i take the s23ultra for the camera and battery life. Otherwise the fold 4.
Great comparison bro. I know you mentioned that eventually you stop noticing the crease on the Fold 4 after long time use. But does it get in the way when you're doodling? I like the idea of creating art on my phone and Fold 4 looks perfect for doing art thanks to the bigger screen. But I'm worried about the crease.
I couldn't decide so I bought both :/... I love the fold 4 but after a while I just got tired of opening it up allll the time. If I had to get rid of one it would be the fold. S 23 ultra provides the wider comfortable feel compared to fold 4s outer screen and most of all I've lost my spen for the fold 4, and s23 ultra is a Note in every way. Only way I get another fold is if they include the s pen like the s23 ultra. Ultra wins hands down
I've been using my Fold 3 since about a year now and I don't see myself going back to a normal phone. There are lots of different little things that you can do with this formfactor that you'd never even think about if you had a normal phone. The inner screen is very fragile tho and has received some damage. The only thing I dont like about The fold 3 is the rather bad camera module.
Just remember when you are notnusing the inner screen it is protected.......as the phone is closed. Honestly when you get the zfold4 out of the box you just can't stop smiling as the quality coolness usability compact BUT huge inner screen.....it is a perfect tool.
I have been using the Fold since the Fold 2 and I can't go back to a regular phone ever again. I can try different folds from other companies but it has to be a Fold or filp. I'm a Fold Flipper😂😂😂
I'm still holding onto my Galaxy Note 9 that stopped receiving updates in 10/22 😁. I love this phone, but with the growth of my businesses and traveling, it's time to upgrade and I believe you just made my decision that much easier. Looks like the Z Fold 4 for the win. And the Fold 5 is not far around the corner
ohh yeah man I got Note20Ultra thinking of S23U or Fold 5 since it's like 2 months till release :D ( to be fair was waiting for folds to get a bit more refurbished/less prone to damages... Z5 sounds like good enough )
well since I'm not in biggest rush in the world phone works normaly (funny enough only keys I never use the ones for volume are half dead ... for some reason it seems like dust or something got under keys idk why and how since I have it in case since day 1) I'm probably just gonna wait those 2 months for Fold 5 than decide .
Video quality is good. I just have 2 suggestions for you. 1> Try to reduce echo in your studio. 2> Please set Bass in correct way. Not sure about others , but for me , audio was disturbing and yes this I am telling you after the adjusting my Vocal EQ and Low end EQ so.
Ive just swapped from the fold 4 to the s23 ultra had the fold only a couple of months and for me its the camera quality. No comparison the ultra is awesome compared to the fold also i found that when watching videos on the fold unless you zoom to full screen where you lose a lot of the picture the screen size is no different the fold has two massive black lines above and below
Same. Been thinking about this it's so annoying with the battery life also and I do business with the fold 4 it's been great but honestly hate charging this thing 3 times a Day like it's on life support
Within 6 months of having the fold 4 the crease cracked. It's been fixed but I find that as a weak spot. Of it happens again I'm going back to the ultra. Or pixel 8 pro in Oct.
I play games watch movies and use kindle a lot. Fold 4 is an absolute beast for media n content consumption. Camera is pretty good but lacks zoom upto 100x . S23 can charge in 50 minutes while fold 4 takes 80 minutes to charge. So its up to individual what they choose . Better camera and fast charging is the main criteria go for s23 ultra. Media consumption, gaming, reading and multi tasking is the criteria go for fold 4 its very durable and its folding ability makes it unique and eye catching ..
🍑Ok this is Samsung versus Samsung so both phones are going to be great.... And we all started off with a straight one screen phone📱.... I came from the Note📱 Series and I loved❤️ it moved over📲 to the Z Fold3📱 and I loved❤️ it had the opportunity to buy the S22 Ultra📱 but I didn't.... Upgrade time move over📲 to the Z Fold 4📱 and I love❤️ it.... Now I have the Change to buy the S23 ultra📱 but I'm choosing not to once you go over to a 3 screen phone📱 It is so hard to go back to a 1 screen phone📱 so i'm Team Z Fold 4🍑.... And I will be moving over📲 to the Z Fold 5📱 when it drops later on this year🍑....
i really like ZF4 but im the guy who uses his devices for years im still having my iphone 6s for my other sim and it works just fine but considering that there is a count on folding and unfolding it and the battery life is important for me im going with the S23U
Every mechanical part has a count until it begins to feel old. The sidebuttons on every phone do too or every laptop. The question is if the number offers you enough years of use and the fold does.
If i am going to use a phone in normal design, it is definitely going to be an iPhone. If i choose Android over the iOS, then the device has to provide something spectacular... so between two of the phones, there is only one winner in my use case. I gave s23 ultra a try, but only after two days i just got back to fold 4... now i can only wish better battery life & cameras on the upcoming fold 5. 🍑
I am in a similar situation. I have the Z Fold4 and it is my favorite phone so far. I also have the Note20 Ultra and it might be my last Galaxy flagship.
Holy shit. For the last couple of days i"ve been breaking my brain trying to figure out which one of these to get. And here you are with great content. Thanks bruv.
@@RjeyTechdone! In your personal opinion, do you think there is a chance zfold 5 will be a bit bigger vs the zfold4? Sort of like the Xiaomi Mix Fold 2?
When is the z5 coming? I'm so torn between these two phones. Still on the fence I'm afraid. I want s23 ultras pen slot, battery life and the camera in the z4 lol
@@RjeyTech so the zfold4 was slightly wider than the zfold3. If the zfold5 will have a slightly wider front screen than the zfold4, than it would be fantastic. Because right now the zfold 4 front screen is almost useless IMO. Even typing with two hands is still a challenge.
At the end which one should i go with ?? I always watch comparisons but i still cannot decide which one to buy z fold 4 or s23 ultra ?? I am going to lose my mind rnd still stuck to my old phone because i cannot make a choice between them 🤷🏻♂️
One of the primary use cases of folding phones is to open it out and watch video content in its full glory. Yet no manufacturer has worked out that the square screen with hideous black bars is not the best way to do this.
I loved my fold 3 but the size was too much. The thickness in my pocket was super annoying so I switched to the flip 4 when it came out. I love the flip but its battery is not great. Often 25% or less by 6pm which is rough when I have plans for the evening. I'm really considering the Ultra now since the battery is top notch and I can handle a large device that isn't super thick.
I just love my S23ultra. Even at 2024 cameras are still very good. Recently I bought a secondhand Zfold4 as my secondary phone and I love it as well-it's very perfect for gaming and watching my favorite Game of Thrones series. 😁👍
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I came from the Fold3 to Ultra 23...I can't say I miss the fold. The fold is an amazing phone, but I spent most of my time using the front screen and I honestly got tired of the weight, so it made sense when given the opportunity I decided to go with the Ultra. I love it just as much as I loved the Fold when I first got it. I don't think you can go wrong with either, but I'm really enjoying the Ultra.
@@Keeping-It-Real-55 - I think that was the point - depending on your reflexes / habits one or the other may be a better option for someone.
I have a Fold 3 Still because the 4 did not justify an upgrade and I almost never use the outer display. My only complaint with a Fold is that it does not mount on my bike or car very easily when on the move. It will be hard to go back to a regular size phone to be honest. If you did not open it up it made sense for you to get rid of it for sure. The S23 looks like a Note Ultra light so that is out of the question . Hopefully the ZFold 5 offers a smaller pen that fits inside and works like a Note.
For me after first using the fold 3 & now the fold 4, I realize I can never go to a regular phone again because of the ability to watch TH-cam or movies. I mean it's like I'm watching on a mini TV
Yeah, i feel like i use the top screen more often and especiall in bed, a bigger front screen would do better for me. I might just get whatever next ultra is released in august 2023 when im done paying my fold
Currently have the fold 4--- will try the s23 ultra--- I figured when I want a massive screen to watch movies or TH-cam on the go--- I just USB-C connect the phone to a portable monitor costing only another 80$..... 16 inch screen can be brought anywhere--- and when on the go--- not having to compromise with a much larger main screen with the s23 ultra vs the slim screen on the fold 4--- 🎉
Using ZF3 since it is released and am amazed with it every day. It's such a great device, and I can't stop appreciating it. I reduced my usage of tablet and PC since I can complete most of the things with it (signing documents, reading docs, editing photos using light room etc). I don't think I can move back to slab phone. Very excited for ZF5.
i love my z fold 3 too
How’s the battery life?
@@gaminggod4646 4 to 5 hours. That's the only thing that will drive me to ZF5.
@@srsgonu Has it been 4 to 5 hours since the time you bought it or has it come to that over time
@Gaminggod It's always around same time. Heard ZF4 battery life around 6 to 7 hrs which is pretty good.
i had the same problem. watched many videos comparing the two and ended up buying the S23 Ultra. Only because of the camera and the possibilities of damgage in the hinges of the Fold 4. Do I have any regrets buying the S23U? No. But i still watch these comparison vids almost every other day to see if I had made the right decision. lmao
Ive been having my fold 4 since October 2022, no issues for me
I dropped the hell out of this fold 4 oh it's strong
You had made right choice. S23U is the best.
Man, I watched this video, learned so much, and still can't decide
Difficult choice indeed. Wish both had expandable memory card slot and Fold has an in-built S Pen.
Update: after about half a day of use. While the ultra is amazing. The z fold 4 does indeed feel better watching movies is just way more immersive. Reading way more immersive. Split screen still kinda sucks on the ultra because it's too small. Split screen on the fold is like two phones. No competition. S pen use is also way better on the fold due to the large canvas. My movies are significant larger than the ultra. I do like the higher res on the ultra and the good aspect ratio for all content. But for everything else z fold 4. Even the cameras. You really don't notice huge differences unless you compare. Z fold 4 right now. But might change as I use it more. Shall see. Thanks
Lol the ultra bodies that peice of shit stop tryna justify buying that foldable junk
I had the 3 the boxy videos/black bars got annoying
@@treblemix_ but why? It's the full size. It just has black bars. And when you don't use those specific apps or what not. Things are almost full screen. Like TH-cam is a lot larger video than the s23 ultra
you are kidding, compare x10 or x30 photo zoom, zfold is like s22 plus, s23 ultra is another level
@@Voltar78 "another level" - there is no such thing in phones nowadays, they're all small iterations with small improvements generation by generation.
Definitely went with the S23 Ultra. I was going to go with the Z Fold 4 based on it being different, interesting, and intriguing look. I've never had a phone with so much productivity power to it. But what drew me toward the S23 ultra was the battery, its performance, and its esthetics looks. It's beautiful! 🐬
The s23 ultra is amazing and is the better phone BUT I went with keeping the fold.. I just get more joy and feel unique using one.
I think I will go to the Z4 fold. No one can tell you how it feels until you try it yourself. And everyone that has one, loves it
Long time iPhone user here.
I switched my iPhone 14 pro max with this Samsung fold 4, first time ever using a android phone, i give it a try, took me almost like 4 full days to figure it out, and still learning something new once in a while, love this phone, i don't see myself going back to iPhone ever.
I’m about to do exact same thing
Did you get used or new fold 4?
As a user of the S23U, I'm certainly happy with my purchase. I returned my S22U (purchased on sale just before the S23 release) and I truly enjoy the upgrades and this phone. This mostly has to do with the processor. I heard about the difference with the 8Gen1 and 8+Gen1 after the switch to TSMC (sorry if I got the acronym wrong). I knew that the 8Gen2 would be a beast.
I underestimated the actual difference that the processor would make.
I guess my only complaint is the name. It's a Note 23. They should've simply changed the release schedule. I am very happy with my N23.
And before I'm labeled as a fanboy....I'm not. I've only now grown a liking to One UI. There's just a few things that I really enjoy (like the floating bubbles and the SPen), and those are features that I use a lot. A LOT.
Yeah I agree. Haven't bought a flagship in years since I feel like there hasn't really been a point. Been mostly sticking with the midrange phones but I am so glad I chose now to get back into the flagship market. My favorite thing so far has been the emulation capabilities. Waiting for my backbone controller to arrive so I can truly dive in.
They probably wanted to get away with Note label (specially S7 Note is forever connected with it), with having 3 type of S flagships it’s good time to retire it with the 10.
@@aarsylmy only concern is the spen. It makes the phone thick. The fold should have the pen not the s lineup. I love drawing but not at that scale.
I've been struggling with this exact thing myself, thank you for making this video! I have an S22 Ultra which I like but I did really want the Fold. The reason I didn't get it is because I was living in CA and tended to end up at the beach a lot so I was concerned about messing the fold up with sand. I still want it and am not living in CA currently so I'm reconsidering... I like how quickly my S22 charges and how long my battery lasts which I think would be even better on the S23. I have an iPad mini which I use as my handheld tablet but honestly I find myself using my phone more. If my phone could truly replace my tablet I'd sell it. I have an iPad Pro that I use for bigger projects/drawing/notebooks but having something handheld for reading, videos, and multitasking is great. I wish I could rent a Fold to see how I like it. I've played with it briefly when friends have one but couldn't get the full experience that way. The pen situation for the Fold sucks for me, as I love the built-in. I am also obsessed with my PopWallet as it's easy to hold my phone and fits my license and CC so that's all I have to bring with me. Easy and slim profile. I don't see a great case option where I could have the pen and the PopWallet which is kind of a deal breaker even though it makes me sad. This video is making me really tempted to go for the Fold but I might wait to see if they ever integrate the pen. I'd like to see that, a bigger external screen, and faster charging. Thanks again :)
If u get the fold definitely will be a downgrade on the camera
Galaxy Z Folder 5 is then your go to, it ‘s both phones in one 😊
Get the case that holds the spen on the fold, and done!!
Do not get the fold the screen will split down the middle I just opened it and it cracked samsung says its not covered under the warranty which socks as this is a common problem which many people have been left with a phone they cannot use anymore samsung suck !!
@@ButleybadboyFreaking, for how long had you been using the phone?
Im switching from a Zfold3 to an S23 Ultra later today. I loved my fold, I was incredibly excited when I first got it. I still love the fold, but im ready for a regular phone again. I dont do tons of work on my phone, so unfolded was basically for videos and games. While I did love streaming on the fold, most videos have black bars. So its like im watching on a horizontal screen anyway. The weight of the fold does get annoying. Anytime I was on an app that wasnt video or gaming related, I was on the front screen. So im just ready to go back to 1 screen.
I might've considered trading in my Z4 for the S23U, except Samsung got comparatively cheap on the incentives this time around. When I bought the Z4 (on release day) they offered $1K for the S22U, Z3, and even the Z2, along with a second-device trade-in and generous store credits toward the watch & buds combo. For the S23U, they only offered $750 for my Z4 (!!!), no second trade-in, and less store credit. That's a hard pass for me and a hugely disappointing low-ball insult to their Z4, which I enjoy quite a bit. It's easier to hold while folded, which is how I use it most of the time, and it's still plenty powerful for all I do. My two wishes would be having the external display be pen-capable and a spot to store the pen, even if it means bumping up the width.
I traded in an A32 and got 800 bucks at Verizon.
Damn yall have crazy deals in the US
Yup, Samsung plays dirty this time with Z4 trade in. Ridiculous
I took a hard look at both. The Fold4 was too heavy and too costly for the end benefit. Went with the S23U. If the Fold5 thins down, trims some weight, and finds an alternative hinge design (teardrop?) I will be back to reconsider.
zf5 leaks are out with a new hinge and less weight -- what are ur thoughts?
🍑 Once you use a fold, it's very difficult to go back to a standard candy bar phone
Coming from iPhone to s23 ultra I'm so happy with it but never put attention to the fold 4 until I have the s23 ultra and now I kind of want it 😂😂
S23U does everything better becides the large size of the inner display...litterally everything else is a downgrade...
Title be like s23 ultra vs fold 4
Me : get me the fuckin money first 😬
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Z fold 4 vs S23?? how to compare? one goes for screen, one goes for portability and better cameras.
The Fold 4 is an amazing phone, I can't wait for the release of the Fold 5!
I BOUGHT 4 SAMSUNG GALAXY Z FOLD PHONES AND ALL 4 HAD COMPLAINTS WHEN I UPDATED THE SOFTWARE AND ONE COMPLETELY STOPPED WORKING.
Interested in the fold 5 but I'm hearing it's not that big a jump... Especially on camera. I'm using the s21 ultra still. I really want a fold, but I want it to be better than what I currently got in all aspects.
Samsung is holding back on making their foldable phone better than the galaxy ultra devices, which is preventing many of us to buy into their foldable devices
The fold 4 is just unreliable. Two screens I've had on mine. Black line down the fold.
Great timing. Just got my s23 ultra today. Phone is super snappy. Impressive
Just got a fold 4 from a iphone 13, had to choose between the 23 utlra and the fold 4 but for me im big into gaming and watching movies and the fold when unfolded is awesome for watching netflix etc and for gaming when i use my xbox game pass and contoller ive basically got a mini xbox lol so happy with this phone and will be getting the next fold for sure
For the speaker test, you had the phones standing up, so you're blocking the sound from the bottom speaker.
I have a Fold 3 and the speakers sound much more louder and fuller than my sister's S23U so unless they downgraded the speakers on the Fold 4, something's not right.
Well spotted ;) Had them both, and fold4 sounds better than 23 Ultra IMHO, but the difference is not a deal breaker ;)
I'm still rocking my z fold 2. Love the phone and the fact that I don't see many people with it is one of the best features. Its like having a tablet when you need it but with a smaller footprint.
It's always a nice conversation starter at times too I've found. I have a Flip and people approach me pretty often about it. Which is cool if you like to be social and find other techies.
I´ve had my fold 4 for some months now and I must say, It for sure doesn´t disappoint. However, you do have to keep it nice and clean and be very cautious with it, nevertheless as a person who likes to take care of his stuff it´s not an issue for me :)
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Can you sit down with it in your back pocket
@@pepperidgedave if its closed its fine. While closed its extremely durable, maybe even more durable than a regular phone since it is basically two "durable" metal slabs holding together. It's fragile when its open. The only thing fragile about the fold is the inner screen itself. The hinge is extremely strong, and so is the rest of the phone. If you protect the inner screen itself, everything is fine
@@azenyr i still haven't put a screen protector on the steam deck and it's really dirty with no noticeble cracks. If i get the fold im prob going for the warranty like he said. Steam deck was 650. This is 1800
The pictures at 10:41, did u switch em around? Cuz Zfold4 looks way better at zoom.
Iphone 14 pro for work and z fold 4 as personal use for me xD I had to try s23 ultra i almost traded my fold 4, but z fold 4 wins for me.
Nice combo. I also decided to stay with the Z Fold4 since the S23 Ultra lacked expandable memory. If we have to move away from expandable memory, I might as well move on to a foldable and other phones.
Really 23ultra vs fold4 fold4 all day! I would pick the fold4 over iPhone 15 pro yes I said it iPhone15pro and it’s not even out yet!
You can't go wrong with either. I'm lucky to have both for work. Samsung has made some amazing devices. Nice review rjey.
I'm surprised you make this sound like a hard choice. I used the Fold 4 for 4mo. I downgraded to a used S22 Ultra. Here are my thoughts:
Fingerprint scanning is a non issue. On the Fold 4 it's at a good location (on the power button) and feels intuitive to use. But the in display scanner on the Ultra is fine.
Despite my S22 Ultra being 1yr old, it still easily gets me through one day on a single charge. I could never do that on the Fold 4. The downside about the Fold 4 running out of battery so fast is that it has slow charging! This thing charges sooooo slow. My S22 Ultra has fast charging and I freaking love it.
The S22 Ultra has 10x optical zoom while the Fold 4 is stuck at 3x optical. I use the 10x a lot. So the S22 Camera wins here easily.
Yeah the Fold 4 has a big folding display. But do you really need it? I have found that I can easily live without it. But it does depend on your needs. If you use it to take notes in college, then it's cool. It's also cool for multitasking and for entertainment. But are these benefits worth the the downsides? Depends on your needs. For me the answer was "no."
A downside to the Fold is that it has a narrow front display. I actually dislike this a lot. I found that I was unfolding it more than I really needed to because I was sick of the narrow front display. Makes it hard to text. They should have made it shorter and wider like the Pixel Fold.
The crease is a non issue. Don't even think about it. But is the screen durable enough to last years folding and unfolding? Time will tell.
Given the price of the Fold line they really need to boost it up a bit. They need to add AT LEAST ONE feature from the Ultra lineup: fast charging, 10x optical zoom or bigger battery. Or all three! If you can't do a bigger battery (size constraints) than give us fast charging as to be able to top it off quickly. It charges sooooo slow. And throw in the 10x optical. They are being too conservative because they don't want it to outshine the Ultra lineup. But this is silly. It's a super expensive phone few will buy. So why does it matter if it completely outshines the Ultra lineup? Samsung is weird.
Anyway, the Ultra easily wins in this comparison. For now.
I got both. there is no need to decide which is which.
It is a hard choice so i have both. When i am traveling or going to be away fom a charger all day i take the s23ultra for the camera and battery life. Otherwise the fold 4.
You can also open a floating window, which for me works great for quick notes or calculations
Been trying to vlog using my Galaxy Z Fold 4 and the results are superb! I really love the device.
Great comparison bro. I know you mentioned that eventually you stop noticing the crease on the Fold 4 after long time use. But does it get in the way when you're doodling? I like the idea of creating art on my phone and Fold 4 looks perfect for doing art thanks to the bigger screen. But I'm worried about the crease.
Yeah it' does sort of get in the way when doodling
@@RjeyTech got it, thanks man
Decisions Decisions Decisions
My wallet: Not for you buddy
This was extremely helpful. I was a repeat buyer of the Samsung Note prior to purchasing the Z Fold 4. I will be getting the S23 Ultra now.
I looked at my nose so I had to subscribe. You got me! 😂😂
Yes it worked 😄
@@RjeyTech yes definitely! I am about to switch to the s23 Ultra from an iPhone and I appreciate your reviews! Thank you!
Good 'ol sponsor at the end there! haha!
Lol haha have to make a living
I couldn't decide so I bought both :/... I love the fold 4 but after a while I just got tired of opening it up allll the time. If I had to get rid of one it would be the fold. S 23 ultra provides the wider comfortable feel compared to fold 4s outer screen and most of all I've lost my spen for the fold 4, and s23 ultra is a Note in every way. Only way I get another fold is if they include the s pen like the s23 ultra. Ultra wins hands down
I love my S23 U ❤🎉
I've been using my Fold 3 since about a year now and I don't see myself going back to a normal phone. There are lots of different little things that you can do with this formfactor that you'd never even think about if you had a normal phone. The inner screen is very fragile tho and has received some damage. The only thing I dont like about The fold 3 is the rather bad camera module.
Excellent comprehensive review.
Thank you for the information
Is watching youtube on fold 4 look larger than on the S23 Ultra? Judging from the aspect ratio, it doesn't look like there'd be a big difference.
Since the s23u launch can’t decide between those 2 phones. Biggest concern with fold 4 is the screen durability, just hard decision
Just remember when you are notnusing the inner screen it is protected.......as the phone is closed. Honestly when you get the zfold4 out of the box you just can't stop smiling as the quality coolness usability compact BUT huge inner screen.....it is a perfect tool.
S23U is better at everything...
Can't go wrong with either. Both are great
I have been using the Fold since the Fold 2 and I can't go back to a regular phone ever again.
I can try different folds from other companies but it has to be a Fold or filp.
I'm a Fold Flipper😂😂😂
I'm still holding onto my Galaxy Note 9 that stopped receiving updates in 10/22 😁. I love this phone, but with the growth of my businesses and traveling, it's time to upgrade and I believe you just made my decision that much easier. Looks like the Z Fold 4 for the win. And the Fold 5 is not far around the corner
ohh yeah man I got Note20Ultra thinking of S23U or Fold 5 since it's like 2 months till release :D ( to be fair was waiting for folds to get a bit more refurbished/less prone to damages... Z5 sounds like good enough )
@@zvonkokroflin216 I ended up getting a Fold 4 with a military grade case. So far so good.
well since I'm not in biggest rush in the world phone works normaly (funny enough only keys I never use the ones for volume are half dead ... for some reason it seems like dust or something got under keys idk why and how since I have it in case since day 1) I'm probably just gonna wait those 2 months for Fold 5 than decide .
Nice comparative review. Well done Arjay
Video quality is good. I just have 2 suggestions for you.
1> Try to reduce echo in your studio.
2> Please set Bass in correct way. Not sure about others , but for me , audio was disturbing and yes this I am telling you after the adjusting my Vocal EQ and Low end EQ so.
Awesome, thanks for making it so useful ❤
Ive just swapped from the fold 4 to the s23 ultra had the fold only a couple of months and for me its the camera quality. No comparison the ultra is awesome compared to the fold also i found that when watching videos on the fold unless you zoom to full screen where you lose a lot of the picture the screen size is no different the fold has two massive black lines above and below
That's my issue with the zf4 is the camera....think I might trade in for the s23 ultra
Same. Been thinking about this it's so annoying with the battery life also and I do business with the fold 4 it's been great but honestly hate charging this thing 3 times a Day like it's on life support
@JAMES Elliot Go through settings
I have 🤗
okay my fold 4 is dead lol. The inner screen has a massive black line in the middle WTF!
10:37 Did you accidentally swap the pictures?
Z Fold 4 looks better than S23 Ultra.
Yeah
I like your home screen wallpaper. Where is it from
I got the galaxy s23 ultra., great phone. hopefully the Galaxy z fold 5 becomes better also.
Thanks for the video. Does every game from Google Play fit the screen size?
Impressive video…btw which game is shown in this video..?
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I subscribed because I actually saw my nose and u got me 🤣 nice one.
I want link for the wallpapers that you used in 2 phones please 🙏
Great video thanks to you Rjey 😊
Dammit I was indeed looking at my nose! Here's your new subscriber! Great review brother
Versatility is my style. Equinox has been my favorite warframe. She can do a little bit of everything. She can also switch between 2 warframes.
Okay you got me . I subscribed only cause you made me look at my nose 😂
S23 ultra 1TB here, beast 💪
I got the Samsung galaxy S23 ultra I love it. it's a beast. 🐬
I think you switched the pictures at 10:38 XD
gotcha)
Within 6 months of having the fold 4 the crease cracked. It's been fixed but I find that as a weak spot. Of it happens again I'm going back to the ultra. Or pixel 8 pro in Oct.
I love the device, but I feel like it's a ticking timebomb.
Can go for pixel 7A, a cheaper version of Pixel 7 and same features in almost every aspect
I play games watch movies and use kindle a lot. Fold 4 is an absolute beast for media n content consumption. Camera is pretty good but lacks zoom upto 100x . S23 can charge in 50 minutes while fold 4 takes 80 minutes to charge. So its up to individual what they choose . Better camera and fast charging is the main criteria go for s23 ultra. Media consumption, gaming, reading and multi tasking is the criteria go for fold 4 its very durable and its folding ability makes it unique and eye catching ..
🍑Ok this is Samsung versus Samsung so both phones are going to be great.... And we all started off with a straight one screen phone📱.... I came from the Note📱 Series and I loved❤️ it moved over📲 to the Z Fold3📱 and I loved❤️ it had the opportunity to buy the S22 Ultra📱 but I didn't.... Upgrade time move over📲 to the Z Fold 4📱 and I love❤️ it.... Now I have the Change to buy the S23 ultra📱 but I'm choosing not to once you go over to a 3 screen phone📱 It is so hard to go back to a 1 screen phone📱 so i'm Team Z Fold 4🍑.... And I will be moving over📲 to the Z Fold 5📱 when it drops later on this year🍑....
U have alot of money I guess to have fun with phones
Well you definitely got my sub after im here trying to see my nose haha
i really like ZF4 but im the guy who uses his devices for years im still having my iphone 6s for my other sim and it works just fine but considering that there is a count on folding and unfolding it and the battery life is important for me im going with the S23U
Every mechanical part has a count until it begins to feel old. The sidebuttons on every phone do too or every laptop. The question is if the number offers you enough years of use and the fold does.
If i am going to use a phone in normal design, it is definitely going to be an iPhone. If i choose Android over the iOS, then the device has to provide something spectacular... so between two of the phones, there is only one winner in my use case. I gave s23 ultra a try, but only after two days i just got back to fold 4... now i can only wish better battery life & cameras on the upcoming fold 5. 🍑
I am in a similar situation. I have the Z Fold4 and it is my favorite phone so far. I also have the Note20 Ultra and it might be my last Galaxy flagship.
Had both, kept the s23 because of the massive battery life increase.
Very informative I am still on the fence between the two. Leaning more towards the ultra just due to price. 🐬
Nice review
I will patiently wait for your review of Z Fold 5 and ultra 23 before i decise on what to do
Holy shit. For the last couple of days i"ve been breaking my brain trying to figure out which one of these to get. And here you are with great content. Thanks bruv.
Thanks so much for watching! Consider subscribing, I'll be covering the fold 5
@@RjeyTechdone! In your personal opinion, do you think there is a chance zfold 5 will be a bit bigger vs the zfold4? Sort of like the Xiaomi Mix Fold 2?
@@stanislavpopov44 no it'll be the same dimensions, slightly wider cover display
When is the z5 coming? I'm so torn between these two phones. Still on the fence I'm afraid. I want s23 ultras pen slot, battery life and the camera in the z4 lol
@@RjeyTech so the zfold4 was slightly wider than the zfold3. If the zfold5 will have a slightly wider front screen than the zfold4, than it would be fantastic. Because right now the zfold 4 front screen is almost useless IMO. Even typing with two hands is still a challenge.
Do you happen to remember where you got your homescreen on your Z Fold 4? That is an awesome homescreen.
At the end which one should i go with ?? I always watch comparisons but i still cannot decide which one to buy z fold 4 or s23 ultra ?? I am going to lose my mind rnd still stuck to my old phone because i cannot make a choice between them 🤷🏻♂️
7:17 WoW twitter and instagram doom scrolling at the same time. So productive
One of the primary use cases of folding phones is to open it out and watch video content in its full glory. Yet no manufacturer has worked out that the square screen with hideous black bars is not the best way to do this.
I need that mountain wallpaper on the fold
As soon as you pointed out my nose appearing in my fov I wanted to pull it off because it started bothering me. 😂
LOL yeah it gets annoying 😂
I loved my fold 3 but the size was too much. The thickness in my pocket was super annoying so I switched to the flip 4 when it came out. I love the flip but its battery is not great. Often 25% or less by 6pm which is rough when I have plans for the evening. I'm really considering the Ultra now since the battery is top notch and I can handle a large device that isn't super thick.
Send me your old devices, I'm tired of using bluestacks.
I’m just curious day to day do you use your phones with cases are not? Especially the Z Fold?
Have both and will keep them
I love the S23 ultra but for my business and multi tasking I will get Z4 thanks for great review
Good choice!
I just love my S23ultra. Even at 2024 cameras are still very good. Recently I bought a secondhand Zfold4 as my secondary phone and I love it as well-it's very perfect for gaming and watching my favorite Game of Thrones series. 😁👍
we need cover screen like galaxy Z flip 4, it's really useful.
Well I think your content is great so I was going to subscribe, but yes…. Yes, you had me looking at my nose 😂🤷🏻🤦🏼♂️
LOL haha I really appreciate that!
Lol yes you got me looking at my nose!! I subscribed and pushed like!
Lol got you James!
I love my phone so much!!! It's a Samsung Zfold4 🥰😍😘
Fold4 gang....as of holding the change to s23 ultra.....
You can actually open 5 apps at the same time
Link for the wallpaper?
Great review!
Should I upgrade to the z fold 4 from the S23 Ultra
I kept the Fold.