I'm curious what solution you were expecting from Springfield? You called them with a problem, they offered to inspect it but you don't want to send the gun in. Ok, but you go from a 10mm XDM to a 9mm g17....not a comparable nexus.
I heard with Biden said where a 22 will bounce around. And then he said a 9 mm will blow a lung out of your chest.. not my words but biden's. And he wants to remove 9 mm and ammo. But his words were the ar-14 was bad. Lol
The unsupported barrel is not a bug, it’s a feature. It makes it easier to extract the round, and that’s one of the things that gives the Glock it’s reliability over other guns.
Don't forget to polish up the feed ramp and trigger bar and etc. AND get new iron sights, AND slide cut or slide (if you want an optic), AND a trigger if you don't like the stock trigger, AND a stipple job on the lower frame, AND... :P
Doesnt need any of those things, if you knew better you would know that all of those things are used by people who cant shoot as an excuse so those get changed on the pistol when people cant be effective with their own skill, the gen 5s def dont need any of that changed, and every gun needs cut for an optic literally every one of them. Some come from the factory already cut for a little more money, glock as done that for years same as any other. So what im getting from your complaints is that you couldnt shoot a stock glock effectively
Regarding your Springfield 4.5" Elite and the factory "shot card" and later your first grouping test target, I'm suprised that you didn't try removing and replacing the sights with a taller front sight, which would bring the muzzle down and an adjustable (windage) rear sight, as it looked like the gun was shooting high and slightly to the right, at least on those first two sets of targets. The 25 yard target did look pretty bad, though. I'm hoping this particular gun was an exception and is not what we can expect from the 4.5", as the 3.8" looks pretty accurate.
I don't understand not having a manufacturer fix a defective product. I further don't understand trading a defective gun for a gun you describe as substandard
I’m not a huge Glock fan, but I see the merit in having a couple. My first Glock is the model 29 10mm, I immediately got a KKM barrel that wouldn’t ruin my brass for reloading, polished things up. My second was the model 30 45acp that is perfectly fine right out of the box and the 45acp pressures are low enough that the brass doesn’t get bulged by the unsupported barrel. I’m now thinking about getting a 19, ONLY because Joe says he wants to ban them. He is turning out to be a really good gun salesman…
My favorite is a g45, great balance. After a 1k rds or so they trigger will improve greatly. People crap on the trigger but it is a great combat trigger with tactile reset. Been carrying a glock for 15 years.
Yeah I definitely agree!!! I have a Gen2 G17 that I’ve owned for 28 years and the trigger on that bad boy is excellent! That G17 is a nail driver. I did buy a G45 and a 19x and the G45 is such a sweet shooting Glock after 250 rounds the trigger was like butter! But my 19x on the other hand is OUTSTANDING!!! The trigger only took 100 rounds or so to get to that sweetness! Out if the G45 bs g19x I’d have to say the 19x beats out out just by a bit not much tho and my Gen2 G17 can definitely keep up with the Gen 5s. As for my single Stack G43XMOS that is a great shooter aswell but is definitely taking a bit longer to get that trigger like the 45-19x and Gen 2 17! I love my plastic junk and I’m surgical with them lol 😂
I sm new to your channel so i am not sure, how do you feel about Sig? would love to see you test the Xten before i go plunk down the money for one as i am on a very limited buget. I have seen some reviews but i have not seen one done for accuracy.
Turkey, trust me, the more you train with the Glock factory trigger, the more you’ll love/like it. It just takes time behind the gun. Fact is, Glocks work, I’ve literally seen Glock 19’s with 50k rds through them run like new guns. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but you cannot argue their dependability.
You're the best, seriously! I feel as if most all the other gun reviewers have gone to be sell outs - looking at you James Reeves (and others), and wont ever call out a gun manufactures or give a unfavorable review. I have been following you for a while now and I really appreciate your no BS, transparent, thorough, and straight-to-the-point videos. You're a stand-up dude and I really hope this channel blows up one of these days, you deserve it! Never change bother!
you are absolutely wright !!! I find few of them perhaps not necessarly endorsing the company but keeping the safe distance so the relationship won't go sour in case they need more products in a future = catch 22,,,they do well in testing the product - that's why I still watch them but definately do not rely on their sole opinion,,,, & that is why TURKEY's OPINION became one of my favourite - guy is amazing at aiming & shooting, well prepared for the task he wants to acomplish, presentations are second to none and no bs' - he tells it as it is,,,,,
hi i have a glock 17 gen 3 i use Speergolddot 124+p as my carry ammo is 9mm good enough for self defense and home defense or should i get a .40 or .45?
Youre good with the g17. Gen 3 guns are my favorite...just simple and reliable. I have a 19x and Gen 3 g19 and gen 3 g20. I shoot the best with the gen 3 g20...super accurate for me. If you want more power than the 9mm go with 10mm. 10mm beats out .40 and .45 any day...
Just curious why didn’t you go with the bad ass G19x??? My 19x is such a fun gun to shoot and the trigger and stock Glock night sights are a great addition! I almost bought a 19 in that color way it pretty sweet with the black accents on it! It definitely makes the gun pop out!
I started carrying a Bubba-fied Gen 4 Glock 17 with a SIG Romeo One optic. I get it, the gun is light, reliable and accurate. I did put a Ghost connector in it and it really smoothed up the trigger press. Normally I carry a G20, XD 9 or CZ P07 (and I've carried a G19) but the G17 is growing on me.
FWIW, I picked up my XDM Elite 4.5 today and the test target has a better POI group (not high, but could come down “a click or two” to be perfect). I obtained my first pistol permit at 19, and carried a Colt Delta Elite 10mm. I grew up up 1911s and love quality variants. Anyway, my P320-XTEN arrives Monday and I can’t wait to get it! I prefer SIG over Glock, and I carried some sort of Glock from around 1999 - around 2017. Stock Glocks are more accurate than most can shoot them. While I have a fairly custom G17, my actual carry G17 and G22 are stock except for Dawson Precision tritium sights. I like to use grease and Ballistol accordingly. With this, the pistols are as smooth as possible, and really not bad for defensive or duty use. I’ve seen Glocks malfunction, they are not perfect, and don’t break a driver’s door window w the butt of a loaded Glock. The frame can split, and the floor plate jettison… ask me how I know, lol I believe Glocks come with plastic sights because of the vast number of aftermarket sights, and even if the pistols came with the factory tritium sights, people would change them out. The one major characteristic of the Glock I absolutely hate, is the grip angle. It’s unnatural going against your natural biomechanics and can facilitate shooters to shoot high. The inherent pointability of the 1911 and 1911A1 is awesome for point shooting at close distances under extremely violent encounters. The P320 has similar pointability characteristics.
I don't understand why you would pay that much for the x ten. I am assuming you paid less then the 900 price I just saw it listed, but there is a lot of good 10mms, for less. I don't think my ronin 10mm even cost me that much.
@@andog6092 shop around, and there are deals to be made. Stay away from Gunbroker, as I saw one under bid for nearly $1500, lol. Like many others mentioned, I’m trying to find that perfect (for me) 10mm pistol. When I was 19, I obtained my first pistol permit and carried a Colt Delta Elite. While stationed in Germany, I looked at building a Caspian/Peter Stahl hybrid, but the magazines were the Achilles heal followed by expense. Fast forward to Glock, and the pistol is too big. I like the XD line, but not in love w it. I really like that Sig is bringing their P320 in to the 10mm arena, but will see how it turns out. I’m looking for a single action, P320 carry(ish) size (3.9-4.5 barrel) holding 15+1.
Hey tom i have an extra 19x case and the everything in it including backstraps to match your 17 if you want them, a friend had all the extra stuff after his 19x was stolen so he gave it to me
Yep practice is always good. I am surprised the 10mm was bad but I have heard they are good. I have the P320 original and never had any problems with it. I never sent it in either and it's still a great gun. Thankyou for the video it was very good 👍.
25 cent trigger job and a ghost connector and your trigger will be good. Johnny Glock makes a $25 stock trigger with a set screw to adjust the travel. Buy both you spend $40. 8 gallons worth of gas 😎😎
Nice info! Thanks! Ill check that out! 👍👊🦃 I'm a landscaper I should.put up a video of me filling up my tanks yesterday..... $280 FJBs to fill a truck, mower and 5 gas cans to get through 4 days of mowing.
Dude, you should have bought the Glock 20 and stuck with 10MM. I went for the Fulcrum trigger and a Lone Wolf ported barrel. I also got conversion barrels for it in 357 Sig and 9X25 dillon, all 3 are ported and it shoots like a dream... For a Glock anyway.
I love my XDMs but I can never seem to keep anything in 10mm. Can't find hot ammo on the shelves (obv can order). Anyway, I run Underwood 9mm +P+ Hero rounds. Running 100 ft lbs less ME than hot 10mm. I don't have a more accurate polymer 9mm than my 45s/19Xs. Plus, the fun sticks work in everything from the 26 on up.
It’s quicker for me and doesn’t require a little tool that glock includes, it’s a clone of the walther and fits like a glove, I got the original with the cool reset button on top and the sf, both around 300 each, steel sites and the some of the finest triggers I’ve felt, reliable need I say more
Glad seeing you sticking to your initial gut feeling - life is too short for nonsence,,,,not a big fan of glocks myself but I will watch you throwing darts - it is how much I endorse you as a person and your to the point no bs' reviews / presentations,,,,,to your defense I own one glock myself - it is g20- Iol,,,,,keep doing what you do,, we apreciate that a lot,,,,, & absolutely both cheeks are gone....
If I had one gun to grab, it would be my Glock 19, the most expensive pistol I own is my Wilson Combat CQB. Thousands of rounds out of my glock without a hickup, takes multiple size mags, runs dirty and shoots consistently great. Opinions may vary, and I appreciate all my pistols for various reasons, but my Glock 19 is my Go to War gun.
Don't waste your money changing out the trigger. Give it a five cent polish job and maybe put in a lighter striker spring. It makes all the difference in the world. I have several Glocks but I'm not a fan - the trigger guard is too small for my stubby fingers when I wear gloves and the unsupported barrel is just insane. Glock perfection - lol. If you want an accurate, buttery smooth 9mm, try the new Walther PDP and the new Canik. Love your channel - keep up the great work. Have you weighed in yet on Federal's new 30 super? Interested to hear your unbiased take on this.
Can't really mess up with a Glock. If it's pretty it ain't a Glock. Also, I agree with another commenter. The CanikSFX trigger is the best out of the box trigger short of a 1911 I have ever felt.
After thinking about it yeah I'm glad you did what you did with the Springfield we're fixing to do the same with ours unfortunately. Curious to look at the Glock it's a Glock so it's going to shoot but again like I said it's a Glock so we'll see will be watching for sure
The XDM has a front sight issue , the fiber optic is a POS design to begin with , but the dove tail fit is inconsistent , I have heard its not uncommon for the front sight to walk right off the slide and the fiber optics work loose and fall out with 10mm recoil ,, I have a XDM on order , along with a optic ,,, plus trijicon suppressor height sights which I will coat the base with blue lock tight when I install them,,,, I live in a area with lots of grizzly and black bears and mountain lions and moose ,,, the Springfield XDM elite 4.5 requires some modification , as did my Glock 20 ....
To be honest, while I have had accurate Springfields in the past, the last few I've tried really didn't shoot well at all the last of which was a Springfield Emissary.
My 4.5 Springfield , as apposed to my Glock 17 1st Gen , does seem to be more accurate : the Glock trigger is more stiff than the Springfield . The Glock is a good weapon , but the Springfield is better at 25 yards. My 92 FS ain’t bad either.
"yuk" LOL!!! I'm with you, striker fired triggers are garbage...unfortunately, and the 1911 triggers are the gold standard, but most 1911s (unlike Glocks) are "jamomatics"
Yeah Glock triggers suck, and are only average once they are upgraded to apex, overwatch or Timney. It is what it is. Glock guys just try to ignore the triggers and focus on its other strong points in my experience
I like my springfiled better than any glock but my brother has a glock 17 gen 3 and ive never shot anyhandgun that accurate at any difference it is more accurate than red dots ive shot
A match barrel is great but the rest of the gun has to do its part too. If you have a steel slide running on tiny little metal hooks molded into the plastic frame big tolerances that doesn't bode well for accuracy. If you have a big hole in the front of the slide for the barrel to rattle around in, and a big ejection port in the middle of the slide for the barrel to rattle around in, doesn't help either. It's hard to find a polymer pistol with anywhere close to good accuracy, the best of polymer pistols seem about equal to the worst of metal pistols. The only Glock I've personally witnessed being tested for real accuracy for a variety of ammo was horrible. What 99% of internet people call "good accuracy" is hitting a large steel plate at under 20 feet about half the time. They don't know what real accuracy is. Most of their shooting you could beat with a smoothbore flintlock pistol. Stretch that plastic gun out to 20 yards and see if you can get a group. Anybody who starts saying that ___ or ___ is "accurate", tell us what your measured groups are from 25 yards. Use a rest if possible. If you can't beat 3" then that is not accurate.
Glock is the F150 of the pistol world Reliable and inexpensive. I buy the bold sights on my glocks. You never notice the trigger in idpa. if your a trigger snob. Try Wilson combat trigger with a ghost connector. Get the MOS. Big square slide is perfect for a red dot
I typically never change trigger. I've only done at once and that was the XDM. I'm getting used to it. It was absolutely horrible at 1st. I'm learning that they work in pretty quickly👍👊🦃
The terrible stock plastic sights plus the far from great trigger..... Mag dump a full mag all the "a zone"no problem. Double tap head, no problem. Glocks are Glocks. They're definitely not perfect and there's plenty to gripe about with them. But the Glock haters are just that, Haters.
Reviews have done that with a hipoint. You don't get what you pay for with a Glock. You get the name. Then again, I buy SIG because it's a SIG so I can't talk much. At least the sights and trigger are better.
Problem with Glock triggers is yes you can upgrade them to apex, overwatch, timney etc and it does improve them but not a huge amount. It will never be as good as an xdm elite, canik, or Walthers trigger. Also once the cz, m&p, vp9 triggers are upgraded you can throw them ahead of a modified Glock trigger as well. It’s the simplicity of their design has some serious draw backs. Glock triggers suck. It is what it is.
I still own a g34 with a timney alpha btw. It’s just ok. I prefer my CZ, Walthers, and SAs over them in general. My Glock is prolly the least reliable out of that group.
The effect of 9mm hitting steel is no where near as exciting as 10mm hitting it. It would be interesting to see how far the 9mm cartridge can be pushed (for hypothetical bear defense) using the Glock pistol and the unsupported chamber. Underwood has their 147gr. +p hard cast in-stock, but that’s one Whammy against the Glock right out of the gate, lol
Black bears 9mm and 10mm are fine. For grizz, you gotta hit brain or spine, or it mauls you. Therefore, stick with full length barrel and 9mm, unless you're north of lower 48. If Canada and Alaska everything is just big, even people sometimes. So maybe run 10mm. But I still honk because grizz have big flat foreheads you are better off with less recoil and use 9mm.
People will rag on how the Glock sights look; but if you've changed them, you'll learn how horribly flimsy the front sight is. The way it's installed is so weird because it rides on top of this spacer thing, and NOTHING is stopping it from turning. I'm a little confused why you got the 17 instead of the 20; but if you wanted a 9mm, it's definitely not a bad choice. I just wish they all came with optics cuts.
glocks are like the porche 911 turbo s. it's not flashy and it's not meant to be and most would think it's just another porche.... nothing to see here, but you'd be wrong because it's a proven super car slayer to those that judge a book by it's cover. so what you've done is reverted back to the tried and true for a reason..... glocks are dependable and they just work and just like the porche 911 turbo s it may not be the prettiest (subjective in my opinion) but if your life depended on it which gun would you want...... let me answer that..... GLOCK/PORCHE 911 TURBO S (BLACK)
Lol you have more problems with Springfield 10mm’s than anyone I’ve ever known, I literally know 12 people with them and all of them praise them next to god and have zero issues and are accurate, 4 of them have the new 4.5 barrel, you must e got a bad batch or they are screwing with you lol
You replaced a 10mm with a 9mm You are going backwards 🤣🤣🤣 Im happy with my XDME 10mm Compact But Im keeping my 20 !!! Be careful with that 9mm Biden sent out a public announcement about the dangers of the 9mm
If you go to a gun store they recommend a glock. And then when you go into a pawn store they say Glock is the most weapons they have in a gun store. I like to research before I buy. Just saying
Kind of like saying red sports cars get more tickets because they are red rather than saying 50% of sports cars sold are red. GFG suggested it's because first time buyers have no idea what they want. Glock is overpriced for what you get and you need to put a better trigger and sights on it when other guns come ready to go. I own 2 ATM so maybe that gives me the right to diss the company. Glocks a one trick pony.
@@FoulPet well if you did any study, a color of a specifically vehicle gets pulled over more than others. I guess you did not study? Go pound sand. I guess since you went through that this current education system that you know more than others. And yet? Your education degree has not proven any more than the people that went into a trade? But, prove that wrong. In my lifetime I went through three trades and only took one year of college. And I made more than you. But hey let's blame Trump.? Right and I will say you got three bathrooms and 58 genders currently. Use one of them?
I bought my first Glock for the same reason after 20 years of hating on it. Guess what? I ended up liking it. We might see that the Turkey Overlord might even end up loving it himself!
Good video,, I love my Glock 19’s I have the Gen 3 and Gen 5. Never had any malfunctions in either, also have the Gen 4 29 & 20 10mm. No malfunctions in either . But I love my Springfield 3.8 elite,, great gun 👍👍thanks gobble Gobble 🦃
Just do yourself a favor, if you want a 9mm, buy a walther PDP and carry it bone stock. Best out of the box striker fired pistol on the market I believe.
A good friend of mine is a sheriff's deputy and he is a Glock freak. I had a Glock 17 gen 2 and I hated it. I think it's because I've had a Beretta 92FS in Inox for so long and I've put so many rounds through it the pistol is almost an extension of my arm I am that comfortable with it. Not to mention I think Glocks are butt ugly. I have Taurus 9mm's all through my house, in my vehicles and my shop because they are cheap, but if I ever end up in a firefight with someone and I have my Beretta they are going to have a bad day because I will not miss and with that Inox gleaming, I'll look good doing it.
Man you are tripping I’ve owned my Gen2 G17 for almost 30 years now and that bad boy will out shoot my buddy 92FS. Burpretta all day long! And my friend gets pissed because he’s a beretta fan boy he even gets pissed when I put shoot his 1301 12 gauge with my Benelli M4Le lol. Gen G17 triggers are outstanding and are smooth like butter! I just think you didn’t shoot more than 17 rounds out if it lol
I'm curious what solution you were expecting from Springfield? You called them with a problem, they offered to inspect it but you don't want to send the gun in. Ok, but you go from a 10mm XDM to a 9mm g17....not a comparable nexus.
It makes no sense. "What are you saying Springfield? You want to help me?? Well that's unacceptable. GOODBYE FOREVER!!!" 🤣🤣🤣
Be careful it'll "blow your lungs out of your body"
LOL
Oh no!😬
I heard with Biden said where a 22 will bounce around. And then he said a 9 mm will blow a lung out of your chest.. not my words but biden's. And he wants to remove 9 mm and ammo. But his words were the ar-14 was bad. Lol
Fuck yes 😂
Only the Glock 19 will blow your lungs out, the Glock 17 is safe!
The unsupported barrel is not a bug, it’s a feature. It makes it easier to extract the round, and that’s one of the things that gives the Glock it’s reliability over other guns.
Don't forget to polish up the feed ramp and trigger bar and etc. AND get new iron sights, AND slide cut or slide (if you want an optic), AND a trigger if you don't like the stock trigger, AND a stipple job on the lower frame, AND... :P
Doesnt need any of those things, if you knew better you would know that all of those things are used by people who cant shoot as an excuse so those get changed on the pistol when people cant be effective with their own skill, the gen 5s def dont need any of that changed, and every gun needs cut for an optic literally every one of them. Some come from the factory already cut for a little more money, glock as done that for years same as any other. So what im getting from your complaints is that you couldnt shoot a stock glock effectively
@@mikehoncho658 he’s just joking around bro! I think it went way over. You’re head lol
@@svtkilr ahhh ok i missed the sarcasm there and thats rare lol but ill leave it bc its informative for those who dont know
what if you discover that the new owner is pleased with the springfield that you traded and concludes that it shoots well even at 25 yards?
Ill be happy for them!🦃👊👍
Regarding your Springfield 4.5" Elite and the factory "shot card" and later your first grouping test target, I'm suprised that you didn't try removing and replacing the sights with a taller front sight, which would bring the muzzle down and an adjustable (windage) rear sight, as it looked like the gun was shooting high and slightly to the right, at least on those first two sets of targets. The 25 yard target did look pretty bad, though. I'm hoping this particular gun was an exception and is not what we can expect from the 4.5", as the 3.8" looks pretty accurate.
Good as Turkey is, put it on a sandbag. Remove the human factor.
I don't understand not having a manufacturer fix a defective product. I further don't understand trading a defective gun for a gun you describe as substandard
I’m not a huge Glock fan, but I see the merit in having a couple. My first Glock is the model 29 10mm, I immediately got a KKM barrel that wouldn’t ruin my brass for reloading, polished things up. My second was the model 30 45acp that is perfectly fine right out of the box and the 45acp pressures are low enough that the brass doesn’t get bulged by the unsupported barrel. I’m now thinking about getting a 19, ONLY because Joe says he wants to ban them. He is turning out to be a really good gun salesman…
My favorite is a g45, great balance. After a 1k rds or so they trigger will improve greatly. People crap on the trigger but it is a great combat trigger with tactile reset. Been carrying a glock for 15 years.
Yeah I definitely agree!!! I have a Gen2 G17 that I’ve owned for 28 years and the trigger on that bad boy is excellent! That G17 is a nail driver. I did buy a G45 and a 19x and the G45 is such a sweet shooting Glock after 250 rounds the trigger was like butter! But my 19x on the other hand is OUTSTANDING!!! The trigger only took 100 rounds or so to get to that sweetness! Out if the G45 bs g19x I’d have to say the 19x beats out out just by a bit not much tho and my Gen2 G17 can definitely keep up with the Gen 5s. As for my single Stack G43XMOS that is a great shooter aswell but is definitely taking a bit longer to get that trigger like the 45-19x and Gen 2 17! I love my plastic junk and I’m surgical with them lol 😂
I sm new to your channel so i am not sure, how do you feel about Sig? would love to see you test the Xten before i go plunk down the money for one as i am on a very limited buget. I have seen some reviews but i have not seen one done for accuracy.
Turkey, trust me, the more you train with the Glock factory trigger, the more you’ll love/like it. It just takes time behind the gun. Fact is, Glocks work, I’ve literally seen Glock 19’s with 50k rds through them run like new guns. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but you cannot argue their dependability.
#FACTS!!!!
You're the best, seriously!
I feel as if most all the other gun reviewers have gone to be sell outs - looking at you James Reeves (and others), and wont ever call out a gun manufactures or give a unfavorable review.
I have been following you for a while now and I really appreciate your no BS, transparent, thorough, and straight-to-the-point videos.
You're a stand-up dude and I really hope this channel blows up one of these days, you deserve it!
Never change bother!
You’re right. There are seemingly a lot of paid shills out there! Good for them making bank, but the unsubscribe button works as well, lol
you are absolutely wright !!! I find few of them perhaps not necessarly endorsing the company but keeping the safe distance so the relationship won't go sour in case they need more products in a future = catch 22,,,they do well in testing the product - that's why I still watch them but definately do not rely on their sole opinion,,,, & that is why TURKEY's OPINION became one of my favourite - guy is amazing at aiming & shooting, well prepared for the task he wants to acomplish, presentations are second to none and no bs' - he tells it as it is,,,,,
hi i have a glock 17 gen 3 i use Speergolddot 124+p as my carry ammo is 9mm good enough for self defense and home defense or should i get a .40 or .45?
Youre good with the g17. Gen 3 guns are my favorite...just simple and reliable. I have a 19x and Gen 3 g19 and gen 3 g20. I shoot the best with the gen 3 g20...super accurate for me. If you want more power than the 9mm go with 10mm. 10mm beats out .40 and .45 any day...
Glocks are amazing guns, I don’t care what anyone says. I have a couple 19s a 34 and a 20. They’ve been amazing and accurate.
I have 17 love it....it may not have the best trigger but works every time....good video
Just curious why didn’t you go with the bad ass G19x??? My 19x is such a fun gun to shoot and the trigger and stock Glock night sights are a great addition! I almost bought a 19 in that color way it pretty sweet with the black accents on it! It definitely makes the gun pop out!
Was it your Elite Compact XDM that you traded?
I started carrying a Bubba-fied Gen 4 Glock 17 with a SIG Romeo One optic.
I get it, the gun is light, reliable and accurate. I did put a Ghost connector in it and it really smoothed up the trigger press.
Normally I carry a G20, XD 9 or CZ P07 (and I've carried a G19) but the G17 is growing on me.
FWIW, I picked up my XDM Elite 4.5 today and the test target has a better POI group (not high, but could come down “a click or two” to be perfect).
I obtained my first pistol permit at 19, and carried a Colt Delta Elite 10mm. I grew up up 1911s and love quality variants. Anyway, my P320-XTEN arrives Monday and I can’t wait to get it!
I prefer SIG over Glock, and I carried some sort of Glock from around 1999 - around 2017. Stock Glocks are more accurate than most can shoot them. While I have a fairly custom G17, my actual carry G17 and G22 are stock except for Dawson Precision tritium sights. I like to use grease and Ballistol accordingly. With this, the pistols are as smooth as possible, and really not bad for defensive or duty use. I’ve seen Glocks malfunction, they are not perfect, and don’t break a driver’s door window w the butt of a loaded Glock. The frame can split, and the floor plate jettison… ask me how I know, lol
I believe Glocks come with plastic sights because of the vast number of aftermarket sights, and even if the pistols came with the factory tritium sights, people would change them out.
The one major characteristic of the Glock I absolutely hate, is the grip angle. It’s unnatural going against your natural biomechanics and can facilitate shooters to shoot high. The inherent pointability of the 1911 and 1911A1 is awesome for point shooting at close distances under extremely violent encounters. The P320 has similar pointability characteristics.
I don't understand why you would pay that much for the x ten. I am assuming you paid less then the 900 price I just saw it listed, but there is a lot of good 10mms, for less. I don't think my ronin 10mm even cost me that much.
@@andog6092 shop around, and there are deals to be made. Stay away from Gunbroker, as I saw one under bid for nearly $1500, lol.
Like many others mentioned, I’m trying to find that perfect (for me) 10mm pistol. When I was 19, I obtained my first pistol permit and carried a Colt Delta Elite. While stationed in Germany, I looked at building a Caspian/Peter Stahl hybrid, but the magazines were the Achilles heal followed by expense. Fast forward to Glock, and the pistol is too big. I like the XD line, but not in love w it. I really like that Sig is bringing their P320 in to the 10mm arena, but will see how it turns out.
I’m looking for a single action, P320 carry(ish) size (3.9-4.5 barrel) holding 15+1.
My everyday carry is a Glock 19 9mm. You guys both shoot better than me. Nice shooting!!!
Thanks! I actually really like this gun. I just put a huge scratch in the slide the other day though.. darn it👍👊🦃
Great call TTO 💯. Sometimes, the best caliber, is the 1 that serve's best interest ‼️
Will u check the S&w M&p 10mm 4” barrel see how it shoots
Hey tom i have an extra 19x case and the everything in it including backstraps to match your 17 if you want them, a friend had all the extra stuff after his 19x was stolen so he gave it to me
Yep practice is always good. I am surprised the 10mm was bad but I have heard they are good. I have the P320 original and never had any problems with it. I never sent it in either and it's still a great gun. Thankyou for the video it was very good 👍.
Love the two tone color ✅
Love to see the sigsauer 10 mm
25 cent trigger job and a ghost connector and your trigger will be good. Johnny Glock makes a $25 stock trigger with a set screw to adjust the travel. Buy both you spend $40. 8 gallons worth of gas 😎😎
Nice info! Thanks! Ill check that out! 👍👊🦃
I'm a landscaper I should.put up a video of me filling up my tanks yesterday.....
$280 FJBs to fill a truck, mower and 5 gas cans to get through 4 days of mowing.
Not a glock fan myself for the same reasons you mentioned!!! 👍🏻💥🇺🇸
Dude, you should have bought the Glock 20 and stuck with 10MM. I went for the Fulcrum trigger and a Lone Wolf ported barrel. I also got conversion barrels for it in 357 Sig and 9X25 dillon, all 3 are ported and it shoots like a dream... For a Glock anyway.
I love my XDMs but I can never seem to keep anything in 10mm. Can't find hot ammo on the shelves (obv can order). Anyway, I run Underwood 9mm +P+ Hero rounds. Running 100 ft lbs less ME than hot 10mm. I don't have a more accurate polymer 9mm than my 45s/19Xs. Plus, the fun sticks work in everything from the 26 on up.
I have the G19X. It's phenomenal. For EDC, the Sig P365 is optimal, in my humble opinion.
I'm friggin surgical with my 22 year old g23 ... xdme 3.8 10mm is my new favorite tho
Glock 17/19 are the best glocks made and I've had them all. Super reliable durable finish and accurate enough.
My Gen 5 is my favorite hand gun. It is my main carry gun.
You gotta try the canik sf, they even come apart quicker then a glock
Umm they field strip exactly the same way. And full disassembly is definitely not quicker.
It’s quicker for me and doesn’t require a little tool that glock includes, it’s a clone of the walther and fits like a glove, I got the original with the cool reset button on top and the sf, both around 300 each, steel sites and the some of the finest triggers I’ve felt, reliable need I say more
And you can’t beat those fine Italian mec gar magazines
@@DR676767 for all of the Glock short comings. Not being simple enough and easy enough to work on is not one of them.
@@czwarlord9243 I never said that, just better options now more then ever
Glad seeing you sticking to your initial gut feeling - life is too short for nonsence,,,,not a big fan of glocks myself but I will watch you throwing darts - it is how much I endorse you as a person and your to the point no bs' reviews / presentations,,,,,to your defense I own one glock myself - it is g20- Iol,,,,,keep doing what you do,, we apreciate that a lot,,,,, & absolutely both cheeks are gone....
If I had one gun to grab, it would be my Glock 19, the most expensive pistol I own is my Wilson Combat CQB. Thousands of rounds out of my glock without a hickup, takes multiple size mags, runs dirty and shoots consistently great. Opinions may vary, and I appreciate all my pistols for various reasons, but my Glock 19 is my Go to War gun.
Don't waste your money changing out the trigger. Give it a five cent polish job and maybe put in a lighter striker spring. It makes all the difference in the world. I have several Glocks but I'm not a fan - the trigger guard is too small for my stubby fingers when I wear gloves and the unsupported barrel is just insane. Glock perfection - lol. If you want an accurate, buttery smooth 9mm, try the new Walther PDP and the new Canik. Love your channel - keep up the great work. Have you weighed in yet on Federal's new 30 super? Interested to hear your unbiased take on this.
Can't really mess up with a Glock. If it's pretty it ain't a Glock. Also, I agree with another commenter. The CanikSFX trigger is the best out of the box trigger short of a 1911 I have ever felt.
You should try the SFX Rival's trigger, it's even better!
@J Fal Yeah I have heard that on other videos. Will have to give it a shot
After thinking about it yeah I'm glad you did what you did with the Springfield we're fixing to do the same with ours unfortunately. Curious to look at the Glock it's a Glock so it's going to shoot but again like I said it's a Glock so we'll see will be watching for sure
Glock fan boy here, good choice turkey. Yes the glock triggers suck, and never get much better.... you'll get used to it though.
For someone who doesn’t shoot Glocks a lot you sure go beast mode 😂🔥🔥 Great Vid and Great Shooting! Also 10/10 group to the camera guy
Good choice!
The XDM has a front sight issue , the fiber optic is a POS design to begin with , but the dove tail fit is inconsistent , I have heard its not uncommon for the front sight to walk right off the slide and the fiber optics work loose and fall out with 10mm recoil ,, I have a XDM on order , along with a optic ,,, plus trijicon suppressor height sights which I will coat the base with blue lock tight when I install them,,,, I live in a area with lots of grizzly and black bears and mountain lions and moose ,,, the Springfield XDM elite 4.5 requires some modification , as did my Glock 20 ....
To be honest, while I have had accurate Springfields in the past, the last few I've tried really didn't shoot well at all the last of which was a Springfield Emissary.
Yeah that really stinks. It would be nice to have consistency instead of having to roll your dice with these things. 🦃👍👊
I hv a Glock 32 gen 4 357 sig I love Glocks
Kinda starting to like it myself lol. Gotta get more time on it👊🦃👍 thinking about a glock 22 now in .40
The 19X is my favorite 9mm Glock. I have 2 of them.
I’m not a Glock guy too but i have two gen 2’s . The beretta apx is also a good choice . Good decision getting rid of the xdm .
My 4.5 Springfield , as apposed to my Glock 17 1st Gen , does seem to be more accurate : the Glock trigger is more stiff than the Springfield . The Glock is a good weapon , but the Springfield is better at 25 yards. My 92 FS ain’t bad either.
Heresy!!!
Also Sig made a 10mm now
Get the p320 10mm. It’s amazing.
Nothing wrong with that! I have the G17.5 and G19.5 both with Zev Citadel slides and Tyrant Designs I.T.T.S. Triggers.
"yuk" LOL!!! I'm with you, striker fired triggers are garbage...unfortunately, and the 1911 triggers are the gold standard, but most 1911s (unlike Glocks) are "jamomatics"
yeah glock is ok just trigger for me as well trying to get use to it
Doubt I'll ever EDC with an optic so don't really care about extra holes drilled in my pistols.
SIG released their P320 10mm.
I’m very partial to glocks ! the trigger is somthing you’ll either learn to love or hate forever.
Too bad about the XDM
Yeah Glock triggers suck, and are only average once they are upgraded to apex, overwatch or Timney. It is what it is. Glock guys just try to ignore the triggers and focus on its other strong points in my experience
I have come to like them not so much for the amount of precision they allow but for their predictability .
I like my springfiled better than any glock but my brother has a glock 17 gen 3 and ive never shot anyhandgun that accurate at any difference it is more accurate than red dots ive shot
What are you thinking
That the 4.5 couldnt hit a billboard at 10 feet so i switched it up🤷♂️
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A match barrel is great but the rest of the gun has to do its part too. If you have a steel slide running on tiny little metal hooks molded into the plastic frame big tolerances that doesn't bode well for accuracy. If you have a big hole in the front of the slide for the barrel to rattle around in, and a big ejection port in the middle of the slide for the barrel to rattle around in, doesn't help either. It's hard to find a polymer pistol with anywhere close to good accuracy, the best of polymer pistols seem about equal to the worst of metal pistols. The only Glock I've personally witnessed being tested for real accuracy for a variety of ammo was horrible.
What 99% of internet people call "good accuracy" is hitting a large steel plate at under 20 feet about half the time. They don't know what real accuracy is. Most of their shooting you could beat with a smoothbore flintlock pistol. Stretch that plastic gun out to 20 yards and see if you can get a group.
Anybody who starts saying that ___ or ___ is "accurate", tell us what your measured groups are from 25 yards. Use a rest if possible. If you can't beat 3" then that is not accurate.
Love your videos!!! My Glock 27 is my best friend tell the end!!! 😎
'Bout time you ditched that puny 10MM,dem 9's are a friggin Tactical NUUUCOOLIER weapon...
Yup blows lungs right out of the body 🤣
wow pretty glock
Camera guy kicked your ass ...
Glock is the F150 of the pistol world Reliable and inexpensive. I buy the bold sights on my glocks. You never notice the trigger in idpa. if your a trigger snob. Try Wilson combat trigger with a ghost connector. Get the MOS. Big square slide is perfect for a red dot
I typically never change trigger. I've only done at once and that was the XDM.
I'm getting used to it. It was absolutely horrible at 1st. I'm learning that they work in pretty quickly👍👊🦃
The terrible stock plastic sights plus the far from great trigger..... Mag dump a full mag all the "a zone"no problem.
Double tap head, no problem.
Glocks are Glocks. They're definitely not perfect and there's plenty to gripe about with them.
But the Glock haters are just that, Haters.
Reviews have done that with a hipoint.
You don't get what you pay for with a Glock. You get the name. Then again, I buy SIG because it's a SIG so I can't talk much. At least the sights and trigger are better.
I'm still interest in the 10mm
Problem with Glock triggers is yes you can upgrade them to apex, overwatch, timney etc and it does improve them but not a huge amount. It will never be as good as an xdm elite, canik, or Walthers trigger. Also once the cz, m&p, vp9 triggers are upgraded you can throw them ahead of a modified Glock trigger as well. It’s the simplicity of their design has some serious draw backs. Glock triggers suck. It is what it is.
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@@lbertlopez83 🤣
I still own a g34 with a timney alpha btw. It’s just ok. I prefer my CZ, Walthers, and SAs over them in general. My Glock is prolly the least reliable out of that group.
The effect of 9mm hitting steel is no where near as exciting as 10mm hitting it.
It would be interesting to see how far the 9mm cartridge can be pushed (for hypothetical bear defense) using the Glock pistol and the unsupported chamber. Underwood has their 147gr. +p hard cast in-stock, but that’s one Whammy against the Glock right out of the gate, lol
Black bears 9mm and 10mm are fine. For grizz, you gotta hit brain or spine, or it mauls you. Therefore, stick with full length barrel and 9mm, unless you're north of lower 48. If Canada and Alaska everything is just big, even people sometimes. So maybe run 10mm. But I still honk because grizz have big flat foreheads you are better off with less recoil and use 9mm.
Yeah I don't care for glocks much good video thanks man
People will rag on how the Glock sights look; but if you've changed them, you'll learn how horribly flimsy the front sight is. The way it's installed is so weird because it rides on top of this spacer thing, and NOTHING is stopping it from turning.
I'm a little confused why you got the 17 instead of the 20; but if you wanted a 9mm, it's definitely not a bad choice. I just wish they all came with optics cuts.
The gen 5s arent like that, the gen 1-3 were bad front sights but ive nvr had a problem with them turning, aftermarket or not
@@mikehoncho658 Oh, mine's a gen 4. Maybe they changed the sights for gen 5.
glocks are like the porche 911 turbo s. it's not flashy and it's not meant to be and most would think it's just another porche.... nothing to see here, but you'd be wrong because it's a proven super car slayer to those that judge a book by it's cover. so what you've done is reverted back to the tried and true for a reason..... glocks are dependable and they just work and just like the porche 911 turbo s it may not be the prettiest (subjective in my opinion) but if your life depended on it which gun would you want...... let me answer that..... GLOCK/PORCHE 911 TURBO S (BLACK)
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Lol you have more problems with Springfield 10mm’s than anyone I’ve ever known, I literally know 12 people with them and all of them praise them next to god and have zero issues and are accurate, 4 of them have the new 4.5 barrel, you must e got a bad batch or they are screwing with you lol
I mean... you had issues with your 3.8, too.
Should have sent it to springfield retested and then trade it....
Ehhh. I'm very impatient. Plus I had to jump on this deal at the shop.👊🦃👍
Glock is Glock. Dependable and no bling. Add an Apex trigger, polish the internals, and add Night Fision sights...
Blaming SFA for your shooting. Classic!!
Glocks are glocks…they serve a purpose. Never will turn one down but usually I can find a better gun.
Crappy springfield. Cant trust it now. Def like the look of that glock.
Old Faithful
Be careful. A Glock BB gun will take down a Grizzly Bear. 😂
This is true. Ive seen it, twice. 🦃👊👍
You replaced a 10mm with a 9mm
You are going backwards 🤣🤣🤣
Im happy with my XDME 10mm Compact
But Im keeping my 20 !!!
Be careful with that 9mm
Biden sent out a public announcement about the dangers of the 9mm
If you go to a gun store they recommend a glock. And then when you go into a pawn store they say Glock is the most weapons they have in a gun store. I like to research before I buy. Just saying
Kind of like saying red sports cars get more tickets because they are red rather than saying 50% of sports cars sold are red. GFG suggested it's because first time buyers have no idea what they want.
Glock is overpriced for what you get and you need to put a better trigger and sights on it when other guns come ready to go. I own 2 ATM so maybe that gives me the right to diss the company. Glocks a one trick pony.
@@FoulPet well if you did any study, a color of a specifically vehicle gets pulled over more than others. I guess you did not study? Go pound sand. I guess since you went through that this current education system that you know more than others. And yet? Your education degree has not proven any more than the people that went into a trade? But, prove that wrong. In my lifetime I went through three trades and only took one year of college. And I made more than you. But hey let's blame Trump.? Right and I will say you got three bathrooms and 58 genders currently. Use one of them?
Hates Glock .. Trades for a Glock .. seems legit 😂😂 I’m with ya .. though I have same Glock Gripes ..
So you went with the weak 9mm. Smh
I'm a buying me a Glock just so's I can 8itch about it.
Thats a great idea!👊👍🦃
@@theturkeysopinion lol
I bought my first Glock for the same reason after 20 years of hating on it. Guess what? I ended up liking it. We might see that the Turkey Overlord might even end up loving it himself!
Should have gotten a highpoint over the glock, at least they suck on purpose.
Sad to hear about the 4.5".
Glock serve no practical purpose in my collection never would buy one.
Good choice T T O
Get a Cz
Good video,, I love my Glock 19’s I have the Gen 3 and Gen 5. Never had any malfunctions in either, also have the Gen 4 29 & 20 10mm. No malfunctions in either . But I love my Springfield 3.8 elite,, great gun 👍👍thanks gobble
Gobble 🦃
Ahhhhhh
All I hearing is a lot of whining.
Is this supposed to be useful advice?
Im not sure🤔 hmmmm🥴
☝️😯 oh, thanks for watching!
Just do yourself a favor, if you want a 9mm, buy a walther PDP and carry it bone stock. Best out of the box striker fired pistol on the market I believe.
A good friend of mine is a sheriff's deputy and he is a Glock freak. I had a Glock 17 gen 2 and I hated it. I think it's because I've had a Beretta 92FS in Inox for so long and I've put so many rounds through it the pistol is almost an extension of my arm I am that comfortable with it. Not to mention I think Glocks are butt ugly. I have Taurus 9mm's all through my house, in my vehicles and my shop because they are cheap, but if I ever end up in a firefight with someone and I have my Beretta they are going to have a bad day because I will not miss and with that Inox gleaming, I'll look good doing it.
Man you are tripping I’ve owned my Gen2 G17 for almost 30 years now and that bad boy will out shoot my buddy 92FS. Burpretta all day long! And my friend gets pissed because he’s a beretta fan boy he even gets pissed when I put shoot his 1301 12 gauge with my Benelli M4Le lol. Gen G17 triggers are outstanding and are smooth like butter! I just think you didn’t shoot more than 17 rounds out if it lol
🤣🤣🤣 SMH