Eupha isn't a disbeliever of her faith by the end of her dungeon she comes out of it learning that they failed to upkeep the ideals and purpose of their real faith and dedicates herself to acting out what she learned she basically comes out of it with more belief in what she follows
Agreed! Thanks for pointing this out -> I selected a poor phrase to talk about Eupha's arc. Moreso than not believing in her faith, I wanted to point out how fast she was able to accept a new/alternative interpretation of her faith and how this is not the norm. Usually to change or take on a different belief, the person themselves are already questioning even in subtle ways (which I think Eupha already was?). That said, 100% agreed that she is not a non-believer. Bad verbiage on my part 🫣 whoopsies
@@Varsonaa likely reason for that is because it isn’t the basis for her faith. She still gets to hold onto her beliefs, just adjust them to fit a new context This isn’t equivalent to ‘God doesn’t exist’ it’s ‘God exists but _’
Best way to deal with Soul Scream: Heismay with Agility gear, Knight's Proclamation, and Royal Thief. Those 8+ attacks get instantly reduced to 1 failed attack XD
honestly my heismay didn't even have knight's proclamation and he still dodges 90% of the time. Fighting the final boss at full strength and seeing 8 press turns disappear is so satisfying.
Minor spoilers about the Prince's... . . . . . . . ... assassination attempt: Rella herself confessed that she aimed to kill him outright, but due to her nervousness and hesitation, she messed up the spell and what would have been a swift death sentence instead became a life-long curse. So it is not fair for you to say the Prince surviving being struck wide-open is plot armor at all.
@@Varsona It didn't matter who did the deed, Rella was just a convenient tool for the Church to eliminate all threats to the throne, which was essentially in Forden's hands as the late King forfeited any kind of authority to him. First and foremost was the rightful heir, the Prince, then it was the young military genius who quickly rose to fame, or infamy. For such an ambitious upstart who also vocally oppose Sanctism, the Church can spin the Prince's assassination into Louis's insane plot to overrun the Kingdom itself. To the public eye then, anything the Church said had the King's backing to it, not realizing the puppet King had already given up on stopping any of this devious scheme.
The game does make it a point to state somewhere the lines of Rella being similar in age and stature to Louis, making her the perfect assassin to tarnish the upstart. However, I don't know how age and stature plays into anything when the assaliants all wore and concealed themselves + all had a similar stature. At that point, yep it didn't matter who did the deed nor how the deed was carried out - especially since after the incident Louis still went on to trailblaze through their military ranks 🤨
@@Varsonathe point was that Louis is primarily famous for his magical ability, so someone making some big weird spell would point to Louis rather than anyone else
[SPOILERS] To be fair Eupha didn't go from believing in her religion to not believing in it at all. I think she simply came to understand that her and her people misinterpreted it. And her awakening was predicated on her role in all of this. She felt she had lost her reason for existing because her purpose in her mind, was to die for her people. She realized that it's better she live for her people rather than die for them and hence her awakening. Additionally They probably could have saved the prince if he was stabbed. I think... because I think Zorba said in the last bit of the story that he did stab him to confirm his death. However, considering the protagonists rips his hearty out and is healed.... honestly Im not sure how well healing works in the game. Lotta plot armor shenanigans occurred during the final battle.
Very true on both points. I selected a poor phrase to talk about Eupha's arc. Moreso than not believing in her faith, I wanted to point out how fast she was able to accept a new/alternative interpretation of her faith and how this is not the norm. Usually to change or take on a different belief, the person themselves will already be questioning their faith, even if it is subtle (which I think Eupha already was?). That said, 100% agreed that she is not a non-believer. Bad verbiage on my part 🫣
The one choice gripe I truly have is the section where (Minor Spoilers) . . . . . you have a talk with Louis after the first runner fight. It gives you three options, but then forces you to reselect whenever you don't pick the "correct" choice. I'm sorry, but if I can't make the choice I want in that time, then don't give me the choice and just have him say the line.
Damn man, I was becoming really fond of this channel until the thumbnail of this video. Literally just found your channel a few days ago. Why must people spoil in thumbnails? It’s like you don’t want the viewership.
I got to the last stretch of the game yesterday and decided to just watch the ending in TH-cam. This game really was a letdown for me coming from persona 5 royal and SMTV. The characters are one note and the dungeons were tedious and un memorable. The combat was fine but grinding the archetypes for each character was annoying. Hopefully the sequel does better.
Honestly agree a bit about the dungeons and the archetype grind but to say smt5 and memorable characters in the same paragraph is blasphemy to the highest degree.
Eupha isn't a disbeliever of her faith by the end of her dungeon she comes out of it learning that they failed to upkeep the ideals and purpose of their real faith and dedicates herself to acting out what she learned she basically comes out of it with more belief in what she follows
Agreed! Thanks for pointing this out ->
I selected a poor phrase to talk about Eupha's arc. Moreso than not believing in her faith, I wanted to point out how fast she was able to accept a new/alternative interpretation of her faith and how this is not the norm.
Usually to change or take on a different belief, the person themselves are already questioning even in subtle ways (which I think Eupha already was?).
That said, 100% agreed that she is not a non-believer. Bad verbiage on my part 🫣 whoopsies
@@Varsonaa likely reason for that is because it isn’t the basis for her faith. She still gets to hold onto her beliefs, just adjust them to fit a new context
This isn’t equivalent to ‘God doesn’t exist’ it’s ‘God exists but _’
Best way to deal with Soul Scream:
Heismay with Agility gear, Knight's Proclamation, and Royal Thief.
Those 8+ attacks get instantly reduced to 1 failed attack XD
honestly my heismay didn't even have knight's proclamation and he still dodges 90% of the time. Fighting the final boss at full strength and seeing 8 press turns disappear is so satisfying.
Minor spoilers about the Prince's...
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... assassination attempt: Rella herself confessed that she aimed to kill him outright, but due to her nervousness and hesitation, she messed up the spell and what would have been a swift death sentence instead became a life-long curse. So it is not fair for you to say the Prince surviving being struck wide-open is plot armor at all.
Ah thanks, I knew I was forgetting something. Still, not sure why using Rella would Successfully frame Louis
@@Varsona It didn't matter who did the deed, Rella was just a convenient tool for the Church to eliminate all threats to the throne, which was essentially in Forden's hands as the late King forfeited any kind of authority to him. First and foremost was the rightful heir, the Prince, then it was the young military genius who quickly rose to fame, or infamy. For such an ambitious upstart who also vocally oppose Sanctism, the Church can spin the Prince's assassination into Louis's insane plot to overrun the Kingdom itself. To the public eye then, anything the Church said had the King's backing to it, not realizing the puppet King had already given up on stopping any of this devious scheme.
@@Varsona because in that time Rella and Louis have the same body structure. At least that's what the game told me.
The game does make it a point to state somewhere the lines of Rella being similar in age and stature to Louis, making her the perfect assassin to tarnish the upstart. However, I don't know how age and stature plays into anything when the assaliants all wore and concealed themselves + all had a similar stature.
At that point, yep it didn't matter who did the deed nor how the deed was carried out - especially since after the incident Louis still went on to trailblaze through their military ranks 🤨
@@Varsonathe point was that Louis is primarily famous for his magical ability, so someone making some big weird spell would point to Louis rather than anyone else
[SPOILERS]
To be fair Eupha didn't go from believing in her religion to not believing in it at all. I think she simply came to understand that her and her people misinterpreted it.
And her awakening was predicated on her role in all of this. She felt she had lost her reason for existing because her purpose in her mind, was to die for her people. She realized that it's better she live for her people rather than die for them and hence her awakening.
Additionally
They probably could have saved the prince if he was stabbed. I think... because I think Zorba said in the last bit of the story that he did stab him to confirm his death.
However, considering the protagonists rips his hearty out and is healed.... honestly Im not sure how well healing works in the game. Lotta plot armor shenanigans occurred during the final battle.
Very true on both points.
I selected a poor phrase to talk about Eupha's arc. Moreso than not believing in her faith, I wanted to point out how fast she was able to accept a new/alternative interpretation of her faith and how this is not the norm.
Usually to change or take on a different belief, the person themselves will already be questioning their faith, even if it is subtle (which I think Eupha already was?).
That said, 100% agreed that she is not a non-believer. Bad verbiage on my part 🫣
Just wanted to let you know the video at 4:30 contains mild spoilers
The thumbnail itself is a spoiler lol
@LeonV777 Lol you're right
😶🌫️Thanks for the heads up, adding to timestamp!
True royal magic in terms of plot armor
Good review. A little nitpicky in spots, but I dig it.
The one choice gripe I truly have is the section where (Minor Spoilers)
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you have a talk with Louis after the first runner fight. It gives you three options, but then forces you to reselect whenever you don't pick the "correct" choice. I'm sorry, but if I can't make the choice I want in that time, then don't give me the choice and just have him say the line.
That scene was the exact one I was thinking about when talking about choice 🤣😅
Might wanna change thumbnail twin kinda spoiler but good video
I am already got spoiled somwhere by the final archetype and how the protag looks later and i am furious.
Damn man, I was becoming really fond of this channel until the thumbnail of this video. Literally just found your channel a few days ago. Why must people spoil in thumbnails? It’s like you don’t want the viewership.
Sorry fam! Appreciate the feedback - Fixed it
@ wow thank you so much I really appreciate it. Truly
I got to the last stretch of the game yesterday and decided to just watch the ending in TH-cam. This game really was a letdown for me coming from persona 5 royal and SMTV. The characters are one note and the dungeons were tedious and un memorable. The combat was fine but grinding the archetypes for each character was annoying. Hopefully the sequel does better.
Honestly agree a bit about the dungeons and the archetype grind but to say smt5 and memorable characters in the same paragraph is blasphemy to the highest degree.