AtticFoil® Compared To eShield, Reflectix and Other Bubble Foil Insulation
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How Does AtticFoil® compare to products like Solarguard, eShield insulation, bubble foil products, and other foil/foam/fiberglass type products? For METAL BUILDING INSULATION, check out bluetexinsulat...
Some products CLAIM to have an r-value of over 11 and are ONLY about 1/4" thick. What is never mentioned is that in order to get the R-11 value, the product MUST be installed INSIDE a 2 x4 wood frame and have 3/4" plywood on BOTH sides. It is the ENTIRE assembly or "system" that achieves an R-11 in a heat flow down test. This requires over 3 inches of "dead" air.
Radiant barrier products installed in a ventilated attic are NEVER installed in this method, therefore can not achieve an R-11 value as advertised.
In this video Ed Fritz - the owner of bluetexinsulat... reads the FINE PRINT and clearly explains how other products can claim to achieve an r-value of 11 and only be 1/4" thick.
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How strong is AtticFoil? I'm worried I'd accidentally punch a hole right through it every time I look at it.
Your visual display on breaking down the method in how their test was conducted was very helpful. I also liked your explanation on using a radiant barrier in your attic.
This was my experience recently installing foil backed sound deadener and a similar product shown here. There was no temperature difference measured between only the foil and the foil insulation product. The foil alone did just as well reflecting heat. In my case, I was also looking for sound reading properties from the insulation but this was a surprise to me.This is excellent evidence to support my experience.
You do a really good job at explaining things.
Watched this video on your website. But had to come to the youtube page so I could like the video because it was that good. Thanks for the straight talk. When I get attic foil I'll be coming your way!
EXACTLY for what I was looking! This is GREAT! I just wanted to keep a garage attic space a little cooler in the summer to protect things I'm storing. The little physicist inside me told me that reflection was more inportant then any "insulation" value I could get from a product. I'm stopping my search for reflective insulation and will now look for just AtticFoil. THANKS!
This has been extremely informative and helpful ! ! Proper insulation done right can be VERY cheap and make a huge difference in comfort. Oh yeah, it also saves $$ and helps out the environment. Thanks againPS It looks like applying Attic foil to my 2000+ spft little house's attic will cost less than $300
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Many thanks for this great information! I hate to learn about ways that consumers are taken advantage of . . . but appreciate when opportunities are taken to correct that. I will definitely consider your product as a result of your effort to educate consumers.
Usually you will notice a difference. When you reduce the heat load on one area you tend to change the balance of heat load vs air conditioning capacity. The result is the room/area is usually a cooler.
Thanks for the kind words. It's amazing how so many products misrepresent the R-value.
Great explanation. It's the "system" of air gap on both sides of material that give the advantage.
No, they just add up all the layers and claim the products have this r-value without clearly disclosing the info.
Donnie, you will definitely see a big difference especially when next Spring/Summer when it starts warming up. If you took any pictures of your installation, can you send us some?
Wow - excellent video! I am a certified building inspector for a local city and I see people using these types of products all the time and telling me they meet the required R Value. I found this video linked in the comment section of ProDex insulation, a product I recently dis-approved as being adequate for an R15.67 per the manufacturer's info. I read the ES report and tried to explain it to the installer but they didnt get it. Great explanation showing the system that was used in the test.
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I really appreciate your educational video about the thin reflective material.
I like how u showed the fine print about their "R" value... 😂
Yes,marketing should be definitely in the federal government agenda to stop companies from exaggerated claims to "gold"claim!!!
Holy Crap i literally was about to go up to my local Builders supply shop and buy that stuff for my Attic tomorrow , THANK YOU SO MUCH, You just saved me a ton of money
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Thank you for the very clear explanation. I am evaluating different ways to insulate the attic of my garage. I'll definitely watch more videos on your channel and probably buy from you.
Straight forward explanation ... thanks!
What would you recommend for an existing metal building with no attic in the desert southwest? (Phoenix Climate) I was thinking thermal barrier foil inside the outer shell, and then insulate with batts I was given. But I think there needs to be a " min air gap between the corrugated metal and the foil, correct? So maybe bubble type would be good for that? I also plan to paint the exterior with heat reflective paint. Thanks!
It really depends on the goal and if the building is conditioned or not. Take a look at our metal building products here: www.BlueTexInsulation.com they are specifically designed for non-conditioned (no heat or AC) or semi-conditioned buildings (occasional heat or AC) Stay away from bubble foil products, they typically use MPET (Mylar) instead of pure aluminum. After a few years MPET will disintegrate from the heat. Here is some info on conditioned vs non-conditioned buildings. bluetexinsulation.com/pages/insulating-non-conditioned-buildings-vs-conditioned-buildings
@@AtticFoil I’m looking to air condition it and want it insulated as well as possible
@@davidwyby In that case you want to basically build a refrigerator and put it in the "shade" from the heat. A foil layer will act like the shade. But, you need an airspace between the foil and the metal for the foil to work. Feel free to call the office at www.AtticFoil.com there are a lot of options - emailing/texting pics is easy to show things. You could use regular www.AtticFoil.com or maybe the www.BlueTexInsulation.com 2mm product outside whatever regular type insulation you choose. I've recently had a couple customers do a great method of using the heavy www.RoofingFoil.com as the reflective layer and then using spray foam on the inside.
Awesome presentation/video. I noticed our new house is a tad warm during the summer and thought id try this method. Thanks for the info!!!
I just replaced my roof with metal two week ago. I stripped off all the old roofing, made repairs to the sheathing, put down a layer of building felt, the attic foil, 1x4 slats then the metal. It will be interesting to see how much difference it makes in my utility bills. We'll see.
Donnie D
Check out our All-In-One Roofing Underlayment AND Radiant Barrier at www.RoofingFoil.com It also has the strict Miami-Dade County Approval/Certification
Hey I'm wondering how you liked the Attic foil? I'm wanting to do exactly as you did. Was you satisfied? Thanks
9 yrs later
Thanks for revealing this.
What if you have a radiant barrier plywood decking . Should you add foil or is that over kill
Radiant barrier decking is not a bad product and it helps some. However, It's better to attach www.AtticFoil.com to the bottom of the rafters. We have several homebuilders who do both with amazing results. Basically, you can be in the attic and not be able to tell if the sun is out or not. Here is the Dept of energy test results comparing the two. AtticFoil is much more effective than radiant barrier decking / Techshield. atticfoil.com/index.php/technical-info/dept-of-energy-study-results/
great videos. your product makes the most sense to me
I’m glad information is shared like this. I am about to move home and have a big old Metal building on the property I need to use as a workshop, I was considering using a product called prodex 5m ( we live in the south ) but now I am concerned about how best to make the space more comfortable when working. I will be sectioning it off inside due to its size. But even so I’d like to not throw away money if possible. Not sure if you have any advice you could offer ?
Thanks for the comment. Please take at www.BlueTexInsulation.com Started about three years ago, these are our foam/foil products specifically made for non-conditioned or semi-conditioned buildings. This sounds exactly like your building. Please get a free sample kit or call us with any questions. We are definitely experts in the metal building space. The BlueTex products are significantly better than our competitors products, period. Just compare. Thanks, Ed.
@@AtticFoil thanks Ed I will for sure check it out once we get moved In.
Not sure if this has been asked before in the dozens of videos floating around about foil insulation systems. Does it need to be fully grounded in the case of a lightning strike?
No, especially in the USA where 110v is standard.
good info, good presentation, good at answering questions....thanks...learned a lot.
Thank you
Great video thanks. Question - for RV folks who are creating window covers using a bubble foil like Reflectix, does it matter much if there's an air gap between the window and the foil? I assume it doesn't matter too much since primarily the foil is reflecting heat and the insulation value is marginal either way, but correct me if you disagree at all!
Yes, the foil is doing virtually all the work. Glass is one of the exceptions to the rule. You do not need an airspace between the foil and the glass since radiant heat goes right through most glass (unless it has a coating or film).
@@AtticFoil thanks! Makes sense. I have a 25% tint but wouldn’t suppose that would make a difference.
@@slpdataguy No, if you can "feel" radiant heat getting through it will help. If possible please send some pictures of your application to support (at) atticfoil (dot)com
@@AtticFoil makes sense! Thanks for the contact info. Itll be another month before im able to turn to this but once i do ill send along a photo. Thanks!
Great video thank you
What's the R Value of the 2X4 box with two pieces of 3/4 ply and *NO* insulation products inside?
NOT much more than WITH the bubble foil. That's the point of this video. The bubble foil itself has very little r-value and many companies mislead you by using the R-Value of an "assembly" which is NEVER how it's really installed.
That cleared up a lot…thanks! 👍
Can I sandwich the bubble foil? I have an unvented vaulted ceiling. I wanted to put the bubble foil on the ceiling and cover it with pine, would this be ok?
No, both foil sides will be touching something without an airspace.
Can you suggest what can I buy in Philippines like yours? What's do you think about fiberglass....is it just a gimmick and I just need strong aluminum foil like yours? In Philippines there are Owens Corning brand and most just use foams/bubble with very thin laminated foil
It really depends on the application and what you are trying to achieve as to what product is right.
THANKYOU! I wish I found this before I ordered prodex. R15, what a fool I am, UGH! I'm just covering the inside of a crawl space block wall, so not the end of world. I did however plan on using it when finishing my basement. I was going to ask the building inspector if I could use just the prodex, being that R11 is minimum standard. I would've looked like a damn fool thanks to those crooks at prodex!
Informative, helpful and a great presentation.
Hello
My Name is Leo
I want to make a video studio in my garage, but I just noticed today that my garage walls don’t have insulation and I’m so frustrated right now.
Any recommendation with your products?
I had watch your videos, but non talking about adding insulation to finished walls from the inside to keep the heat out.
Would you please be so kind and help me out with this issue?
Thank you so much.
Leo
+ALCONY BRITO ENTERTAINMENT I would start by adding AtticFoil in the attic above the garage. This will usually make a huge difference. Garages are not typically insulated since they are not considered part of the "living space". As for the walls? That can be tough. If you are just using it occasionally and can run a window AC then you can probably keep it cool and not spend too much even though it's not very energy efficient. If you are using it all the time, then you should probably do a true "garage conversion" and add insulation in the walls. Either by injecting foam or tearing out the sheetrock, adding insulation and installing new sheetrock. Here is how to install in the attic over the garage: www.atticfoil.com/index.php/installation/staple-up-installation/
Terrific explanation. Thanks!
I'm building a van and I'm doing the floor right now. I created a frame on the floor using one inch wood, leaving squares. My plan was to put a radiant barrier on the bottom of each square then a one inch plywood would go over the frame and the bottom of the plywood would also have a radiant barrier, creating a one inch gap of dead space, my question is would I benefit at all from filling the squares with wool? I know that radiant barriers work with dead air space but my thought is that the wool is very lofty so it would be a similar effect plus the added r value of the wool. Am I just dumb and should stick with just the radiant barriers. Also i already bought the wool
I would skip the wool. Where ever it touches the foil it will act a a conductor and reduce the overall reflectivity of the assembly.
Thanks for the excelent video, my question is, what is the best a bubble foil insulation or a single foil insulation???
Unfortunately, there are no good bubble products since they all use MPET or metalized film (Mylar). Check out our new products that use PURE Aluminum and XPE foam at www.BlueTexInsulation.com What is the application and goal you are trying to achieve?
super-clear presentation. thank you
i am one of those people that had eshield installed a few yrs ago. i had it installed over the existing attic floor insulation. Because of its reflective capabilities it seems like this would be more beneficial if i moved this off the floor and stapled it to the rafters and then added more insulation to the floor. What do you think?
Brian, it really depends on how much insulation you have below the existing product. I see too often companies will put a product over low insulation. Radiant Barrier is not a substitute for good insulation. They work TOGETHER to reduce both conductive and radiant heat flow. I'd say if you only have a few inches, then I would add more.
So, what is the R value of the Attic Foil?
Info here: atticfoil.com/index.php/technical-info/what-is-the-r-value-of-atticfoil-products/
Can you lay the barrier directly on fiberglass in the attic
Yes, it's called the "Over Insulation" method here: atticfoil.com/index.php/applications/cathedral-ceilings-hotmixed-climates/
Thank you.
Will this block thermal imaging? Asking for a friend! ;)
Absolutely!
Radiant barrier on its own has NO R-value; R-value is attributed to materials slowing conductive heat. AtticFoil™ works to block radiant heat (97%) coming in to the attic by stapling it to the rafters, but it has no R-value.
Not sure what your point is? I say this exact same thing in multiple videos, on the websites etc.
I just bought a house that is about 2500 square feet. I would like to installed AtticFoil, but when I call the 1800 number No one ever answers the ph and yes I call during business hours 🙁
This is our busiest time of the year and we are often on the phone. Simply leave a message and we usually call back within 30 minutes.
What do you recommend for a small metal shop?
Take a look at our line of super durable Foam/Foil products here: www.BlueTexInsulation.com If you have an existing building take a look at the install instructions here: bluetexinsulation.com/pages/existing-construction-metal-framed-buildings-installation
Sure, sent then to us.
Thank you very much.
If I install a radiant barrier over just on room in my house, will I be able to feel the difference in the room temps, everything else being the same? OR will I have to install the barrier throughout the entire attic?
@Atticfoil id like to know the answer to this question too, can i just insulate over just a room instead of the roof/attic
Hello, my name is Richard. I have an attic that has an old blown in eco friendly insulation that looks like dirt. I have layered over that some 3in pink rolled insulation. However my house is still hot. I have no attic vents at the moment. I had a guy come look at my attic today and he said I would need 6 more inches of blown in insulation for a 1400 square foot home. Does this sound reasonable or am I getting my leg pulled? He wants to charge me 1000 for all the work. I need some advice please, family man here with one income.
Richard, if you live in the hot South I would consider adding some roof vents and AtticFoil radiant barrier BEFORE adding more insulation. Nothing wrong with a lot of insulation, however the insulation can act like a big heat sponge and HOLD the heat long after the sun goes down. We want to KEEP the insulation from getting as hot to begin with. Radiant Barrier and ventilation will do this. Call our office and we can give you more advice. www.atticfoil.com
Great job even I get it, thanks.
Thanks for the information!
Thank you for this.
What about flat roofs?
Not really what it's designed for but it works great: Should get at least five good years out of it. atticfoil.com/index.php/applications/exterioroutdoor-use/over-flat-roofs/
Great video! Thanks!
My favorite part was when he said COMMEN SENSE SHOULD TELL YOU, No product 1/4in thick will give you an R-value of 11.... Except maybe Aerogel, but we know we can't buy that.
thank you!
Damn good video
so it's just tin foil?
It's tear proof aluminum foil. Regular foil would fall down and tear the day you get a rat or a squirrel in the attic. It's also perforated with tiny pinholes to allow water vapor to pass through.
Something like that but much more durable... that you can staple, that won’t tear easy
I hear Bubble foil has an R-9 value by itself flat to the sheathing.
Show me a reputable testing firm with an engineer that will sign off on this claim. Not going to happen.
Whoever told you that just wants to sell you bubble wrap. Not true. R-1 maybe.
If you use the TH-cam search box and key in Donnie D's Metal Roof, it will take you to the videos.
Donnie D
The James Randi of insulation, Debunking the fakers. Well done, Very informative.
Works good put it in my shed stay warm all nite .
I actually made a series of videos. Do you want me to send them to you?
Donnie D
If you will give me an email address, I'll send them on.
Donnie D