Man…anybody who thinks this podcast is too trite - actually, let me refrain from calling names. From setting aside the sour dough to the rhythm training on “the AND of 2,” focusing on Philly Jo’s left hand; singing what you’re playing, taking space… More than 3/4ths of the podcasts posted here, each, contains months if not years of professional level piano/music lessons whether you’re only jazz or classical or all of it. I only wish this one had been posted before September 1st because I needed the vulnerability speech before the end of August, but I can use it to work toward the end of this month. Thank you Peter and Adam. All I need you guys to ever do is just talk. You can now afford to do 2 fluffy episodes after this deliciously crunchy one. 🥰🙏🏽🌻🌻
Yes. Vamping on a single note but with an interesting rhythm (and with great time-feel) is infinitely better than an interesting melody played with poor rhythm
I second that. That was one of the best sets I have heard in a long time. Original tunes u could understand and feel. Yes , I am older but that was timeless and contemporary.
Peter was smoking on piano as well as all players with Christian McBride set at Detroit Jazz Festival. Best set i have heard in a long time. Was highly impressed with how Peter gelled with vibraphone. Inspirational and must I say organic. Peace.
Fantastic. Monk's Dream broke something in my brain when I first heard it, and I realized that I understood nothing about rhythm, and had a lifetime to find out, and was also the moment that I fell in love with jazz. The way Monk created something so accessible, and yet so far out is a testament to the depth and breadth of his understanding of music. I believe the key to the power of rhythm lies in it's ability to inform the listener where they are at in the music at key points. A melodic phrase or harmonic progression may have a clear shape to it, and a clear ending, but when it is reinforced by a rhythmic foundation and a rhythmic contour, that's going straight to the base of the brain. Rhythm prepares the listener for what is about to happen, indicates what to focus on in what is currently happening, and provides a punctuation at the end of a phrase or a measure, or a verse, and also creates a substructure or foundation upon which all of the melodic information pushes and pulls against. When the contour of the rhythm and the melody (especially) or harmony support each other, it allows the brain to process two things at once. It also provides breathing room for the brain to absorb additional information by creating space, either in pulses, or pauses, or "tides." When there's a change in style in a song, the rhythm will quite often provide a cue before it kicks in, saying "ok - here comes something new!" One of my favorite examples of rhythm and melody working together incredibly well is the work of Jimmy Page and John Bonham, which is of course far removed from jazz, but if you listen carefully, you will hear that Bonham is actually following Page's guitar and tempo and rhythmic feel, so rather than the typical situation of a rock drummer driving the groove, you have a guitarist and drummer feeding off each other, pushing and pulling against the tempo, and it's very exciting, or at the very least unique and creative. Finally, since we're talking about rhythm, I suggest that anyone interested in the hearing differences between good and great feel in rhythm in pop music check out songs with the "groove master" Jeff Porcaro and just focus on those drums. A strong rhythmic performance on an average song can turn it into a monster, but a lackluster rhythmic feel can make a great song into a slog.
Peter, Adam, thank you for continuing to bring such great content! 😊😊 I’ve been a member of the Open Studio website for about 2 months and I’m loving the progress I’m making in my learning, almost every day. You guys are awesome❤
Thanks for sharing seven strategies how to improve your rhythm playing by looking into other instruments like drum, guitar, clap hands, etc. Singing scat tune also helps but I preferred to use Kodaly way of counting to keep time when I singing or playing.
Man those genius of modern music cuts are such a vibe. I think the later records with Rouse et al swing harder, but the excitement and inventiveness in the earlier ones is so deep and inviting.
Aaron & Fred's teacher was Sofia Rosoff - she was nothing short of amazing. I still use the things she showed me in the brief time I was able to work with her.
Great pod as always, it got me thinking while I was practicing some of the concepts; how would you approach practicing solid rhythm in a solo piano context? I find it hard to comp for myself and keep a steady pulse or not get lost in the changes if I’m going for something rhythmic in my right hand, which I guess is just poor hand independence as I’m a guitarist primarily- is there a specific way you guys practice adapting tunes for solo piano?
I'd practice with a metronome in 2&4 without the left hand and NOT get lost in the changes. You'll develop an ear for where the melody is located and the chords themselves will be inescapable after a while.
Thanks for the shout-out! The music education landscape would be a better place if every lesson was rooted in a rhythmic and aural context. As Adam said at the beginning of the episode, rhythm shouldn't be relegated to isolated practice. I like the whole "practice of a rhythmic life." I think that communicates the primacy of rhythm more than "just feel it," which can be a little nebulous. Harmony and scales are the raw materials, but RHYTHM is the delivery to the dance floor--the execution of the music. When we ignore rhythm, we ignore music in the process. Glad y'all didn't give up with the podcast. Keep on keeping on, peeps! If possible, can you get the drummers on Open Studio to do drum podcasts/interviews again? We miss Edu, Ulysses, and Hutch!
1) It has been scientifically proven that it is much easier to hear variations in rhythm with lower notes. Small changes of the same size seem much more pronounced in bass notes than in middle notes with these in turn sounding larger than the difference from high notes. That is why bass is as much a rhythm instrument as it is a tonal instrument. 2) Related, Rhythm rules bass which rules harmony which rules melody. Said differently Rhythm defines the style. Bass defines the key center and motion. Harmony defines the flavor, consonance and dissonance, melody rides on top. To master a style of a genre or of a particular player one must master the rhythm.
Pick one of the five drumsticks protruding from either side of your body, then treat the piano like a xylophone perhaps? hehe (don't throw your technique away completely I mean... grain of salt kind of thing)
Man…anybody who thinks this podcast is too trite - actually, let me refrain from calling names. From setting aside the sour dough to the rhythm training on “the AND of 2,” focusing on Philly Jo’s left hand; singing what you’re playing, taking space… More than 3/4ths of the podcasts posted here, each, contains months if not years of professional level piano/music lessons whether you’re only jazz or classical or all of it. I only wish this one had been posted before September 1st because I needed the vulnerability speech before the end of August, but I can use it to work toward the end of this month. Thank you Peter and Adam. All I need you guys to ever do is just talk. You can now afford to do 2 fluffy episodes after this deliciously crunchy one. 🥰🙏🏽🌻🌻
they say you become like the people you're around, and I wanna hang with Adam and Peter 🙂
Rhythm is number ONE. No exceptions.
Yes. Vamping on a single note but with an interesting rhythm (and with great time-feel) is infinitely better than an interesting melody played with poor rhythm
Peter! I saw you playing with Christian McBride at the Detroit Jazz Festival the other night, y’all were AMAZING!! 🤩
yes
I second that. That was one of the best sets I have heard in a long time. Original tunes u could understand and feel. Yes , I am older but that was timeless and contemporary.
Peter was smoking on piano as well as all players with Christian McBride set at Detroit Jazz Festival. Best set i have heard in a long time. Was highly impressed with how Peter gelled with vibraphone. Inspirational and must I say organic. Peace.
yes
bespoke one might say
@@spacejazz6272 well I don’t understand English well enough to decipher bespoke but hopefully it positive.🎶
set was absolutely incredible
Great episode! These rhythm exercises are fantastic.
What an AMAZING topic. You guys are a blessing!
Fantastic. Monk's Dream broke something in my brain when I first heard it, and I realized that I understood nothing about rhythm, and had a lifetime to find out, and was also the moment that I fell in love with jazz. The way Monk created something so accessible, and yet so far out is a testament to the depth and breadth of his understanding of music. I believe the key to the power of rhythm lies in it's ability to inform the listener where they are at in the music at key points. A melodic phrase or harmonic progression may have a clear shape to it, and a clear ending, but when it is reinforced by a rhythmic foundation and a rhythmic contour, that's going straight to the base of the brain. Rhythm prepares the listener for what is about to happen, indicates what to focus on in what is currently happening, and provides a punctuation at the end of a phrase or a measure, or a verse, and also creates a substructure or foundation upon which all of the melodic information pushes and pulls against. When the contour of the rhythm and the melody (especially) or harmony support each other, it allows the brain to process two things at once. It also provides breathing room for the brain to absorb additional information by creating space, either in pulses, or pauses, or "tides." When there's a change in style in a song, the rhythm will quite often provide a cue before it kicks in, saying "ok - here comes something new!" One of my favorite examples of rhythm and melody working together incredibly well is the work of Jimmy Page and John Bonham, which is of course far removed from jazz, but if you listen carefully, you will hear that Bonham is actually following Page's guitar and tempo and rhythmic feel, so rather than the typical situation of a rock drummer driving the groove, you have a guitarist and drummer feeding off each other, pushing and pulling against the tempo, and it's very exciting, or at the very least unique and creative. Finally, since we're talking about rhythm, I suggest that anyone interested in the hearing differences between good and great feel in rhythm in pop music check out songs with the "groove master" Jeff Porcaro and just focus on those drums. A strong rhythmic performance on an average song can turn it into a monster, but a lackluster rhythmic feel can make a great song into a slog.
Peter, Adam, thank you for continuing to bring such great content! 😊😊 I’ve been a member of the Open Studio website for about 2 months and I’m loving the progress I’m making in my learning, almost every day. You guys are awesome❤
I *love* this. Thanks, gents, for sharing your wisdom - and recommending Monk! 😀
Thanks for sharing seven strategies how to improve your rhythm playing by looking into other instruments like drum, guitar, clap hands, etc. Singing scat tune also helps but I preferred to use Kodaly way of counting to keep time when I singing or playing.
Man those genius of modern music cuts are such a vibe. I think the later records with Rouse et al swing harder, but the excitement and inventiveness in the earlier ones is so deep and inviting.
On his channel, Jeremy Siskind has a few sessions on this topic.
KEEP IT COMING
Aaron & Fred's teacher was Sofia Rosoff - she was nothing short of amazing. I still use the things she showed me in the brief time I was able to work with her.
Barry Harris too
GALA - thanks for the episode as always, ps amazing work at the detroit jazz festival, saw both the mcbride set and the vibe summit
Learning brushes is king.
Jazz Tourette … rolling on the floor.
great episode!!!!
Love you guys.
You guys motivate me SO much with every video! As soon as the video ends there is nothing I want to do more than grab my bass and shed all day
Great pod as always, it got me thinking while I was practicing some of the concepts; how would you approach practicing solid rhythm in a solo piano context? I find it hard to comp for myself and keep a steady pulse or not get lost in the changes if I’m going for something rhythmic in my right hand, which I guess is just poor hand independence as I’m a guitarist primarily- is there a specific way you guys practice adapting tunes for solo piano?
I'd practice with a metronome in 2&4 without the left hand and NOT get lost in the changes. You'll develop an ear for where the melody is located and the chords themselves will be inescapable after a while.
Amazing, thanks. What metronome has the function you mention? Not all of them, really! GALA
I started as a drummer and eventually learned piano/organ which I’ve been playing for 20+ years. I wanna learn bass in 2025.
Rhythm is what carries you along
I have good rhythm, but bad notes/don't know which to play, when. At least, on piano
amazing
Peter i caught you in Detroit this weekend, hell of a show.
The feed has commenced
I really like the bald guys pov, we think similarly
Adam and the snare solo was instant Monk
it was really illuminating to watch peter struggle with the eighth notes and triplets, knowing what a pro he is.
So validating to hear Peter mess up the rhythm! 😂 Hope for the rest of us?
Thanks for the shout-out! The music education landscape would be a better place if every lesson was rooted in a rhythmic and aural context. As Adam said at the beginning of the episode, rhythm shouldn't be relegated to isolated practice. I like the whole "practice of a rhythmic life." I think that communicates the primacy of rhythm more than "just feel it," which can be a little nebulous.
Harmony and scales are the raw materials, but RHYTHM is the delivery to the dance floor--the execution of the music. When we ignore rhythm, we ignore music in the process.
Glad y'all didn't give up with the podcast. Keep on keeping on, peeps! If possible, can you get the drummers on Open Studio to do drum podcasts/interviews again? We miss Edu, Ulysses, and Hutch!
Gentlemen and ladies, agreement
Show me how your body moves 🎵
I thought of Let me hear your body talk 🎵- Physical
Hahaha! Jacob Collier would like more the rhythm of the first one! He would show you in „I harm you“ ;)
11:03 Sing with the record
❤
1) It has been scientifically proven that it is much easier to hear variations in rhythm with lower notes. Small changes of the same size seem much more pronounced in bass notes than in middle notes with these in turn sounding larger than the difference from high notes. That is why bass is as much a rhythm instrument as it is a tonal instrument.
2) Related, Rhythm rules bass which rules harmony which rules melody. Said differently Rhythm defines the style. Bass defines the key center and motion. Harmony defines the flavor, consonance and dissonance, melody rides on top. To master a style of a genre or of a particular player one must master the rhythm.
Pick one of the five drumsticks protruding from either side of your body, then treat the piano like a xylophone perhaps? hehe
(don't throw your technique away completely I mean... grain of salt kind of thing)
👀👂
Thats not Paul Schafer!
all musicians are drummers first.