But Marty didn’t just pop up one day…13 years later, they saw him slowly age over the course of 17 years. I think it would be weirder if one of them thought, “hey, our son suddenly looks like that guy that was at our school for 1 week, 30 years ago”
What I find weird is that when Marty goes back to 1985 shouldn't his older brother now be called Marty, he gave the idea for the name which they liked the sound of and then randomly named his older brother Dave and hoped they'd have another son so they could finally use the name they have liked enough to remember all those years
@@paulmccarthy1444 Maybe Dave is named after a family member, like a parent or grandparent, and Marty could then be named anything they wanted as the 2nd born son.
I barely remember anyone I went to high school with, and I saw some of them five days a week for four years. I have no problem believing that George, Elaine, and Biff wouldn't recognize Marty as the same guy they interacted with for a couple of times over a single week thirty years earlier.
@@blunteastwood they only started dating, if you can call it that since they were on their first date, because of Marty/Calvin. They didn’t immediately fall in love and elope that night.
I have always wondered how George and Lorraine didn't recognise Marty when they grew up, even calling their son the same name as the person who brought them together when they were young.
I'd say an even bigger plot hole in Titanic is the fact that there were hundreds of people in the water and not a single one of them fought Rose and Jack for control of the door.
The bigger plot hole in Titanic is why was the water only freezing once they got off the ship? They run around in it for 10 minutes without any issue or any sign of being remotely cold.
I think it was because the boilers below deck were still keeping the heat going along with the power. So once they were out of the flooded places they would have enough time to warm back up until they went back into the water
Yeah and whats funny is Jack even mentions that. He tells Rose he grew up in Wisconsin and if you fall into ice water the shock alone will cause you serious pain and trauma. Then they just totally ignore it a couple hours later.
Cypher made a code which allowed him to meet with the Machines with the Machines being aware of him. The Operators were there to keep the Machine from finding the humans who were not operating within the Matrix and giving them a way to log out. Its not a plot hole. The Machines wanted Cypher's help, so they let him log out without the need of an Operator.
On top of that operators control the training simulations as well as setting up the prep simulations like the infinite armory. I think operators are mostly there because humans at the time really wouldn't trust a computer program to have control over something as important as if they can get in and out of the matrix alive or not.
The one from “The Matrix” never bothered me because when Neo walked in, Cypher’s reaction and awkward conversation indicated to me that he was up to something with the code.
Plus Cypher was going in specifically to meet with the Matrix agents, so the agents permitted him easy access to come and go. Neo and the rest of the crew are hunted by the Matrix, and it helps to have at least someone outside in a position to see the bigger picture to monitor the connections, to alert for incoming system threats, and to help guide them to alternate escape routes when they get detected.
My thought is, how many coders would there reasonably be in their group? A group of random people kicked out of the matrix that they happened to be around to save. He might have lied to them about needing an operator ages ago, so he would be kept around.
Back to the Future: my best friend and I went through highschool together, all 5 years from start to grad, and the amount of people she straight up doesn't know from our grade is shocking. She doesn't remember names or faces (granted none of them lead her to meeting the love of her life). I'll start tellibg her some shocking goss and she will have no idea who I'm talking about AND THEY WERE IN OUR CLASS. We are only 28 and I'm still amazed by it.
@@erakfishfishfish And even if you did when you saw them in the Facebook group, it isn't like you would have known them from memory. And equate that to your third child that you saw grow up. Hell, when I was 10-12 or so, I used to ride the bus with a girl who was my best friend for several years. I remember she had straight brown hair and a scar near her mouth. We rode the bus every day together. If you were to show me pictures of several girls with that description, I couldn't pick her out.
@@jimbobjones9330 You wouldn't recognize someone who was your best friend for several years as a teen? I ran into someone who was my best friend as a teen at Disney World when I was in my forties (50 now), as she was walking past me, and I instantly recognized her. I could pick out classmates from grade school. I don't think you're giving your memory enough credit.
Regarding the Thor one, it was actually stated and shown in a prequel comic to The Dark World how Thor got to earth with Dark Magic long before Infinity War, not to mention that line from Loki in Avengers I feel was explanation enough anyways. Plus, it's also stated in Avengers that they intended to use the Tesseract's power to repair the Bifrost (I think it's also brought up in the prequel comic too), hence it being fixed in Dark World after Thor brought the Space Stone to Asgard with Loki.
I think the fact that we have to go to a comic should be reason enough that it was too handwaved or is a plot hole for the movie its in. But is better then a 7yr wait for the fix
@@aschaff3995 Like I said, I still feel like Loki's line in Avengers was explanation enough anyways. If you think of it logically, it makes sense that they'd have other ways of transportation between realms that predated the Bifrost. Dark World even brings up how Loki used them previously as well. Plus, considering the Thor stuff being heavily magic based, saying he got back with magic is totally believable; and calling it 'dark magic' pretty much explains why they prefer to use the Bifrost, because of beliefs/dark magic usage being frowned upon. S:
To add to your point, in the first movie it's established that Heimdall's sword is the key to operating the Bifrost, but when Odin banishes Thor he uses his staff and lightning to open the Bifrost and blast him through it. Given that at the time of The Avengers, the real Odin is still alive, it doesn't take a jump in logic to assume that he can easily access the so called dark magic needed to send Thor to Earth especially given how badly Asgard wanted Loki to be captured. Considering that Odin falls into the Odinsleep shortly after he banishes Thor, it also adds into the reason they prefer the easy way of using the Bifrost.
If we need a solution to not using the pipes in Inside Out, I’d say 1) the pipes can take back orbs, not homunculi 2) Joy doesn’t trust the other 3 to take care of the core memories until she gets back 3) core memories are too powerful to use the pipes I totally made up #3 but it could have easily worked in the movie. 15-30 second sequence of Joy saying “wait that thing can take orbs back to the control room?” Trying it, then either backing out at the last second afraid fear, disgust, or anger would touch and corrupt them (like sadness had) or trying to put it into the pipe but they get shot back out at her to which a maintenance worker says “woah that’s a big one you may need to bring it up manually”
or even because of her emotional disturbance when the workers attempt to show Joy and Sadness the pipes the memory gets jammed and they then mention it will take some time to fix.
8:45. The operators are needed for position, warning/ direction (if agents invade) and extraction. If Cypher planned on only going to one place, meeting with agents on good terms, and extracting after a set amount of time, that algorythm sounds pretty possible for an in-matrix hacker to figure out.. you know, by sci-fi logic
With the Matrix ‘plot hole’ , I assumed Smith simply let him back out. The operators are hacking the system but as he’s there and in cahoots with Smith, seemed logical Smith would create the link
I always wondered whether that was what Cypher was doing when Neo startled him. I reckon it's partly the reason why he tries to make Neo think he was looking at girls ("All I see is blonde, brunette, redhead...") cos he knows Neo can't 'read' the code on the screens and see that he's actually talking to Smith. It's also why Cypher turns off the other screens once he knows Neo is there.
James Cameron is a fantastic filmmaker. He’s also very sensitive and seeming insecure about his work. He’s correct. The only person who would’ve thought of the life jacket hack under those conditions is Jimmy Neutron mid Brain blast. But that doesn’t mean the Mythbusters are full of shit. Their whole goal is to see if something is possible, and they proved it was.
The way Jules always ends these videos is legit the best thing on the internet! I wish I could have an endless loop of those playing constantly so I can tune in whenever I need a pick me up or to hype myself up for something!
He used to do a lengthy "I f-ed your mom" joke every episode until I, and presumably many other, complained every episode to get him to change his act. It was really out of place to have the host of an entertainment channel making lewd remarks every episode
My question is how Rose survived at all. She was clearly mostly submerged at one point, leaving every inch of her and her clothes soaking wet. You can survive freezing temps whilst wet for some time, and I understand it’s never stated how long before a boat came back. But how was she not dead from hypothermia within 10-15 minutes?
He used to do a lengthy "I f-ed your mom" joke every episode until I, and presumably many other, complained every episode to get him to change his act. It was really out of place to have the host of an entertainment channel making lewd remarks every episode
One thing I always wondered about the Matrix is how he sat up in the pod before being flushed out. After he gets picked up by Morpheus and crew they have to hook him up to electrodes to get his muscles strong enough so he can move around. If he's too weak to move until they give him the electrode therapy, how could he have sat up in the pod or had the strength to pull the feeding tube out?
in both yours and Cameron's defence, even if you are of high intelligence (130+) the likeliness of you being able to produce this kind of solution under those conditions is slim to none; given a non-existent time limit and an ideal working condition I'm sure the solution is "simple"
I was so upset that they didn’t do The Prison Scene in Star Trek. My Uncle actually got the chance to be part of Star Trek and his part was a no name Prisoner in that scene. As a long time Trekkie, my Uncle was so happy just to be there.
For the Matrix, I’m my head cannon, the reason you need an operate is to jake you in and out (which is why he was writing the program) and to watch for agents and other hostile programs. He was going it to meet the agents and no other hostile programs will mess with them.
You didn’t think I’d catch your video plot hole WhatCulture? The title of the video says 10 infamous movie plot-holes, but you only show us 8!! And then even at the end of the video, you say that was 10 infamous plot-holes again!! You tried to be sly, but I caught it😂
I assumed the cypher issue is just that they’re always going on missions and that operators only can pay attention when you call for them. They aren’t 1:1 watching you all the time.
I always thought that. There was an operator but the operator didn't know what Cypher was doing. I understand the confusion, tho, because the scene of Cypher and Smith happens just before the conversation between Neo and Cypher, and Cypher is alone when Neo leaves, but we really can't know if Cypher plugged himself to the Matrix just after that. BTW, there is a scene when they are all in the Matrix where Cypher discards his phone. The framing suggest that action was kind of important, but we really don't know why he does that. My hypothesis is that mobile phones are used for tracking, but only when they are carried by the one being tracked. He could have done that same thing when he met Smith.
Honestly I like the fan theory on the Matrix. Cypher ask Mouse to set him up with the Woman in the red dress, and mouse leaves to give them privacy and that's how he met up with Agent Smith.
You know I had two theories for the Inside Out plothole. One: It didn't click in the minds of Joy and Sadness to use the recall tubes. Or Two: it was Joy's pride that got in the way, thinking that she could fix everything alone, reinforced by the fact that she pushed Sadness out of the broken recall tube quote "Riley needs to be happy"
I've seen the episode and I can't for the life of me remember how they ever got the straps of a life jacket to get around an object of that size. If you can't attach them, then the jacket will just keep slipping out from underneath and provide no support.
I 100% agree with all of the plotholes you pointed out. I really love your videos. One additional comment. I probably started watching yout videos about a year and a 1/2 ago. I Made a comment about how I really liked what you said at the end. About being a massive ledge, and, how it actually did pick up my day and gave me confidence. Somebody made fun of me for it. I was embarrassed and I deleted my comment. It's always bothered me so today I want to say to the person who made fun of me. Please think before you text, you're being disrespectful, and only hurting others.
Don't let the negativity get you down. You should feel good about yourself. The small people who need to make fun of other people to make themselves feel better are just sad.
The Back to the Future one, I always thought that George and Lorraine might have thought at some point that their son was the spitting image of the guy who got them together, but I doubt that even a sci-fi nerd like George would actually believe that time travel is a reality and think that "Calvin Klein" was their son all along. Bear in mind that Doc Brown has a reputation for being a bit of a nutter, so I think it's safe to assume that nobody believed he could invent something as far out and advanced as a time machine. Remember when Lorraine's mum said that Marty looked familiar to her and Lorraine commented that kissing Marty was like kissing her brother? Neither of them jumped to the conclusion that he was their future son/grandson, so I think it would be reasonable to assume that George and Lorraine probably rationalised it as a coincidence.
I'm not saying you did it on purpose but you just lied at the end here. Lorraine's mom did not say anything like that. You're thinking about when Lorraine straight up kissed Marty and then said that it felt like kissing her brother. At no other time was there a mention of kissing her brother.
For inside out, the film is a allegory for depression and when you are depressed you struggle to grab hold of easy obvious solution. For example if you’re in a harmful relationship, the obvious solution is to leave and anyone outside can see that but it’s not so easy when it’s you. I see this as who they don’t just use the workers. Is it prefect or even intended… probably not but it works for me
The BttF one is the perfect example of bad criticism. As stated, it has a perfectly boring everyday explanation that's doesn't affect the plot. It's more an example of the insane need to have everything spelled out, from "oh no my tea was poisoned" (Dr Strange 2) to "oh, that's how Han got his random set decoration" (Solo)
Never saw the Cypher one as a plot hole. Operators are required to make a connection in and out of the Matrix. Connections which the agents and the system are trying to block. But Cypher working with the agents, I always assumed they gave him a backdoor access. The actual plot hole in the Matrix is the turning of humans into batteries thing.
The idea that George and Lorraine would forget Marty as teens is ridiculous. He skateboarded around the town and played Johnny B Good at the high school dance! Would YOU forget him??
exactly!! Marty wasn't just a dude that showed up for a week and went away. The guy had all sorts of skateboarding adventures, played Johnny B Goode at the Dance, was hit by a car by Lorraines dad and actually spent the night there, was a sexual interest of Lorraine, saved Lorraine from being sexually assaulted by Biff (kind of), and was ultimately the catalyst in the two of them becoming a thing. I mean, Hill Valley High School may be a rockin school, but that week had to by far be the most eventful thing to ever happen to them!!
I think it's more the idea that they might not fully remember what he looks like 30 years later. Like they probably vaguely remember what he looked like, but not in detail.
@@memyself898 1-2 moments on a skateboard does not equal "all sorts". Having said that, everything else you said is accurate. I don't remember 95 percent of the people in high school and that counts teachers but if I was Lorraine I wouldn't forget the man I fell in love with before George took my place. You're telling me she doesn't remember the kiss that felt like kissing her family? C'mon man!
you know the outro on this is really awesome. its gave me a good feeliong to hear something positive said about me, even though you dont know me and arnt actually speaking to me directly
The first Avengers film actually shows how the bifrost was (most likely) repaired. At the end, when Thor takes Loki and the tesseract back to Asgard, they turn the device the tesseract is in, and it takes them to Asgard. When you look at the ground where they teleported, there’s the same marking on the ground that the Bifrost makes
So, two plot holes in this video alone - it can't decide if we're going to get 8 or 10 examples, and it claims that Cypher killed Tank, when Tank survives the first film, killing Cypher in revenge for the death of his brother Dozer.
While Tank survived to the end of the first film, he was killed off screen by the time Matrix Reloaded came out and the implication was that he died from the wounds inflicted by Cypher. At least, that's how I interpreted it since Link, his brother in law, replaced him as Operator
And the plot hole isn't really a plot hole in the first place. We don't need to see everything happen on screen or explained in detail for it to not be a plot hole.
The plot hole for Back to the Future is quite easily explained by this one point. George, Elaine and Biff wouldnt remember Marty because they know that time travel doesnt exist. Think about it. We, as the audience, knew that Marty went back in time. But for any of them in the past, nobody would believe that their son is the same person.
I always thought that in the third Back To The Future they could have easily solved the "gasoline doesn't exist in 1855" problem by going to the Delorean that Doc hid in the cave and siphoning the gas out of it, if he hadn't already. Not sure if that counts as a plot hole but it certainly was an overlooked solution to their problem.
If you know anything about cars....you can't leave gas or fluids in a car for too long....and they didn't want to alter what doc did to the cave cause if they messed up then Marty would be in a paradox and not be able to go back with doc in 1885
@@ianvchavez I completely get that(by that logic Marty would of had to spend a solid few days getting the Delorean to run after a 100 years sitting, I have a '69 Fastback and that thing was a pain flushing the fluids to get it to stay running and it only sat for 20 something years). As a scientist Doc would probably have taken the gasoline out of the Delorean before storing it, so the it's more likely he used it all in experiments before Marty made it back.
You leave gasoline in a car for seventy years, it turns into varnish and clogs the fuel system. Doc is too much of a gearhead to leave 1955 Doc with that headache.
Star Trek's biggest plot hole is toward the end. They go to warp to escape the black hole, but are being pulled in anyways. So they eject the warp core, meaning they can no longer hold their speed and that they would fall into the hole at a much accelerated rate. If you want another movie with plot holes, the entire movie "Back to the Future II" is based on a massive paradox. When Biff goes back and gives his younger self the book, the entire future old Biff came from would cease to exist. Since Doc Brown was murdered, he wouldn't of lived long enough to invent the time machine and even if he had, the future old Biff returns the delorean to wouldn't have existed for him to go to.
When old Biff returns to his timeline, you can see he is in much pain. That's not explained in the movie, but there was a deleted scene that showed old Biff disappearing from existence, as should be. You are right, the Delorean should have disappeared too, but maybe time-machines are exempt from those delayed-ripple-effects?
I don't buy Bob Gale's explanation at all. Marty had a major impact on their lives. He's not some random guy they went to high school with for a week. Also, you may not be able to remember the faces of friends you had in high school. But if they were important to you, you would recognize them when seeing them. You can look at old high school photos and pick out people by name. At least I can.
There’s a theory George McFly figured out it was Marty but never told his wife…way too long to type out - but essence of it was George’s obsession with Sc-Fi and his encounter with the Alien in 1955 that made him pursue Eilaine.
I want to know how Doc ever got into the DeLorean at the beginning of the movie? It's doors open out, there is barely any space on the drivers or passengers sides. Yet he's inside when the ramp lowers and then backs off the transport truck...
They open up in a trailer the same as they would in a tight parking spot. In other words, no problem at all, because there would be an issue if the occupants couldn't open the doors to get out of the car.
The way that George and Lorraine look at Marty and Jennifer at the end of the film… they know. The issue is, they can’t let Marty know that they know until he’s gone back in time, but they don’t know when that will be. The way he’s acting weird that morning indicates that it’s probably happened.
Yeah I always just figured it was an Aunt May situation. Even then, THEIR account of events is effectively that they got together because of antagonism with Biff, since Marty did most of his work offscreen. To them it isn't like "We wouldn't have kissed if Calvin didn't play that song" or "George wouldn't have knocked out Biff if Calvin didn't do something at some point [shrug]". Calvin's just a guy who tagged along with them for a week then disappeared.
I'm really surprised you didn't mention The Terminator plot hole in which John Connor would have to exist in the first place before he could grow up and then send his dad back in time to conceive him.
That is a time paradox as someone else mentioned, but not necessarily a plot hole. Take what we know about the franchise and extrapolate and you have a very simple answer: In a previous "loop", a desperate move by humans in the future led to them sending someone back in time to try to stop the creation of Cyberdyne. John Connor didn't exist at this point, but a resistance movement still came about and sent someone back in time to try to stop the rise of the machines. That someone was Kyle Reese, and while he is in the past he hooks up with Sarah Connor. Probably just stumbled into the diner she worked at Now you have everything in place for the events of the films to occur on the next loop - Cyberdyne created the terminators, humanity was nearly wiped out before John (presumably after Sarah dies) decides he can't just stay in hiding and starts gathering up survivors to form a resistance movement which turns the tide. Now its Cyberdyne making the desperation move to time travel in an attempt to win the war. The first Terminator film takes place at this point. Of course, this also means that, like the Matrix series, it is entirely possible that there were dozens of loops that occurred before all of this.
@@asdfag557 yeah, thats just the basic grandfather paradox. Its only complicated if Kyle Reeses parents died in the past. The rest is perfectly stable and normal. He could only mess it up if John accidentally shot Kyles dad which is a literal grandfather paradox
@@daltigoth3970 and all killing John accomplished was eradicating Kyle from the timeline. The damage is minimal anyway since Sarah still had all the skills and knowledge necessary. By all rights it would reset her to before the t 800 found her but outside of that. Nothing is really altered. Its like mixing a bit of genesys into the mix and she grew up with t 800 caring for her
The easiest fix for monsters inc would be that they didn't actually meet but knew of each other. Like being in the next class room over or having a faud through sports or whatever. Don't need to meet your rivel in order to beat their best score js
Who is to say that after Doc gives Marty the picture of the two of them with the clock tower, Marty goes home and tells his parents the whole time travel story and they tell him that they knew the whole time???
Dave might be named after a father or grandfather, and it's traditional to name the firstborn son after them. One is a daughter, and they were thinking of Marty for a boy. Then, they got their chance to name a boy what they wanted, so they named their 2nd born son Marty.
I always thought they did remember Marty and that's why they gave him the truck. As a thank you for getting them together. One of those unspoken admissions so to speak.
My whole issue with number one. James Cameron himself went ot the mythbusters to test that myth upon the re release of the movie in theatres. Also, they had the other solution of if Jack and Rose alternated it was plausible they both lived to see rescue. No offense to a legendary director I never met, but coming out a few years later to decry a result he himself asked to test.... Not a good look
Yeah I recall him being accepting and chill with it in the episode. Basically "Yes, it's possible but it's just not something that happened in this story" which was fine. There are plenty of scenarios where something could've gone much better if the participants had certain knowledge or a certain frame of mind or remained more calm but, just like real life, people often don't.
The Inside Out one is pointless. The entire movie is allegory. Riley didn't actually have five mini-people living inside her head, or a forest made out of mini french fries, or an actual train that goes around and around inside her brain. Sometimes people are just annoying with this crap and manage to take all the fun out of stuff.
Let's say George and Loraine do know that Marty resembles a kid they met called Kelvin, it's not outside the possibility that they have already had that discussion years ago as Marty has resembled Kelvin to them for a few years now.
You mean the guy that Lorraine fell in love with and tried to have sex with and she actually kissed him but it felt like kissing her brother? Yes, I'd say it would be easy for her to remember that and how he looked.
Not only was Marty there just a week but they didnt spend much time with him and nobody ever got a photo of the guy. Then 30 years passed. And during his lifetime Marty slowly grew and his face changed so they would not have noticed it or put the two together.
I'd argue that the Back to the Future question isn't actually a plot hole, more a strange quirk that people get into a twist about. What is a plot hole is how Doc gets transported to 1885, the Delorean gets struck by lightning but isn't travelling at 88 mph, it's just hovering?!?
or they do remeber since when they are standing at the door they smile they just dont remeber the old timeline the biff thing is rather funny and explains why he scared of marty he might remeber more and see the simalarites between calvin and marty and just get a feeling of danger. since each time they meet it doesnt end well for biff
Most of these were never plot holes to begin with. There is a difference between a plot hole (where a movie's fails to follow its own logic) and a character error (where a character does something we don't consider logical). Jack "tried" to get on the door, but he failed and they didn't keep trying. Marty's parents didn't recognize him. Joy didn't think of having the maintenance workers help. And so on. Just because a viewer can think of a way around a particular puzzle that a character didn't (or think they would have better memory years later) doesn't mean it is a plot hole. It just means that the character isn't perfect.
You're right, it's not a door. But the prop was based on the architrave from above the double doors in the first class lounge on A deck. It's the entrance to the corridor leading to the forward first class staircase.
In The Matrix, the use of operators are needed no matter what happens as they can look for "exits" and give live feedback from what is happening in the matrix... Cypher made a program that probably used a timer, meaning that he would go in with a countdown until the "exit phone" is called for him to get out. Yes it's a mind bender, but plausible within the rules of the movie.
The Back To The Future explanation is incorrect for one major reason: Lorraine is later shown (the original 1985timeline) as beholden to memory. It's a classic plothole and the excuse given for it by the film-makers betrays its own characters.
The bigger plot hole in Stat Trek 2009 is how the Enterprise is able to eject the warp core but stay at warp. That's like your car launching your engine out but staying at 70mph down the A1
@@erakfishfishfish That's all fair enough, but they were being sucked into a black hole at the time when they ejected their engine yet retained their velocity...
Its quite obvious why operators are needed. They are there to provide directions, alerts and new exits if the original gets compromised. You most likely can code yourself an entry and exit points by yourself but it getting cut off is likely if anything goes wrong and thats where the operator comes in. Its not that hard to comprehend while watching the movie and what the operator does during it.
If memory serves the mythbusters also found that even the small increase in water covering the door from titanic would cause both rose and jack to die of hypothermia before help arrived.
Simple, Asgard just had to take time to rebuild bifrost and with Tesseract back sped up probably. In Thor Ragnarok, you can even see the bifrost scar where it was broken.
#2. Umm, yes it's anomalous that Cypher can get into the Matrix without an accomplice. You're out of sequence in this video, though. He does that BEFORE he kills Tank and Dozer. Oddly, though, writing a code explains nothing. If I've written my own video call program, does that explain how I make a call with no connection? Better idea, if only in fan theory: pod-born people have latent wireless chips secretly implanted. The a.i. activated Cypher's so all he had to do was dream, and Smith would treat him to steak. In the sequel, Merovingian gets Neo's turned on, which has the side effect of enabling Neo to override Sentinels.
If all I need to do is connect and disconnect, I can write a script for that. If I'm actually a welcome guest that the host (The Matrix/Agents/etc) won't close while I'm hacked in. Operators can adapt the hack on the fly when The Matrix/Agents close exits and cause problems, and can guide those jacked in based on that overview...something a script to connect/disconnect could not. Operators aren't there because they're needed for the basic tasks...they're needed because they can hack, adapt, and advise on the fly like no script can, and when you're in a hostile environment, you need that to get back out.
Oh, I understand. Can be automated assuming the shipboard computer controls the connections. Um, also I guess buckling those restraints isn't entirely necessary. (Cypher's steak dinner isn't going to cause any of those involuntary spasms we see happen in the real world.) 😎 And the big jack someone's got to stick in the hacker's neck? Actually, I guess there's at least a couple different ways that can work. 1. Imaginably there's an automatic extender available that we weren't shown. 2. Maybe one can jack and un-jack oneself by hand if deft at it. So it can make sense after all, afaik. Thanks,@@LezChap
Would love someone to explain to me how Hannibal Lecter got that pen and how he had time to mutilate two guards and string one of them up in the air in the movie 'Silence of the Lamb'
He stole it from the psychiatrist when he was talking to him. There's a scene where the doctor is fiddling with it while taunting Hannibal, and Hannibal is intently staring at the pen. That scene is placed there to show that he is able to grab the pen from the doctor, who carelessly leaves it lying unattended. The two guards were assumed to be safe up there alone with him. Once Hannibal incapacitated them both, he had plenty of time to kill and pose them. Then, he just had to wait until the other guard came back to retrieve the empty tray.
With the Back to the Future one, I'm with Family Guy. If I was Marty's dad, I'd be deeply suspicious that my wife ran into their old friend Calvin Klein a good 9 months before Marty was born haha
There's a worse mistake in that scene from Titanic. It may not be a plot hole since it isn't crucial to the overall narrative, but it's a big inconsistency: Jack sinks after Rose lets him go. Dead bodies float, both in real life and in the movie. They're all over the place in that scene. Thematically, I understand why it happens. Despite her love for Jack, she has to let him go and not be tied down in order to live a fulfilling life for herself, and watching Jack disappear into the deep is a striking visual that really drives that point home, but it's also preposterous and makes no sense.
George is a science fiction nerd. I think he probably took interest in time travel after The Time Machine came out in 1960. There's also no way he could forget someone like Marty who came in one week and changed his life. Why would someone like that come into his life and care about his relationship? Maybe he's from the future. Maybe that's his son. I mean, Marty does accidentally call him dad. Marty was most likely born in '69 and what was founded a year prior? Calvin Klein. I can see George asking a pregnant Loraine what she thought Marty's name was before finding out she was wrong and considered that CK is a clothing brand and the only time she saw that name was on his clothes. I bet that just put the icing on the cake and made George believe that it was his kid that he met in '55. I also think that the reason why they credit Biff so much is because they know Marty is the one who goes back in time and they didn't want to mess up the timeline by telling the truth. Even if it's a silly theory, George probably would take it serious because of how much he loves Loraine.
George's book, 'A match made in heaven' is undoubtedly influenced by his experience with brain melting Darth Vader extraterrestrial from the planet Vulcan. I've always thought the fact that Biff is forgiven for his attempted rape a bit of a plot hole.
Plot hole, Back to the Future 2. why did Doc not just ring old Marty before he got home, and ask him to leave the front door open to let Jenifer out? Marty knows about the time machine so old Marty would remember it. and thus wouldn't be too shocked when doc calls him.
...I... no that's actually a great point. They're tricking someone who already knows about time travel and axiomatically by his younger self being ON this trip would know to begin with too. That doesn't even negatively impact the trip or cause any paradox situations. And this is why you never overanalyze time travel no matter how much you enjoy the movie/game utilizing it really well.
why didnt doc just tell old marty what was going to happen to prevent most of the bad shit from happening to him? old marty/ older marty would know what can happen if something changed in the timeline doc tells him what could happen to him and his kids later on marty would do everything possbile not to do the drag race and such thus it would be like it was at the end of the movie anyway just no rich biff. i mean doc uses letters in the third one anyway sure marty used a letter first but it still works. you can just then have the movie be about doc showing off the future not connected to marty to younger marty and jen but still have either family in the background like number 3 did with his ancestors
@@jaeusa160 Old Marty didn't go into the future with Doc though. Young Marty goes to make sure his kid doesn't get sent to jail, but that would start a new timeline that Old Marty wasn't a part of. But Old Marty does know time travel exists, so Doc could tell him something is going on, and he would probably help out.
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But Marty didn’t just pop up one day…13 years later, they saw him slowly age over the course of 17 years. I think it would be weirder if one of them thought, “hey, our son suddenly looks like that guy that was at our school for 1 week, 30 years ago”
Personally, I think George would’ve wondered, “Did my wife cheat on me with Calvin Klein all these years later?” LOL
There was an episode of Family Guy that actually touched on this.
What I find weird is that when Marty goes back to 1985 shouldn't his older brother now be called Marty, he gave the idea for the name which they liked the sound of and then randomly named his older brother Dave and hoped they'd have another son so they could finally use the name they have liked enough to remember all those years
@@paulmccarthy1444 Maybe one of them needing convincing for that and said if we have a 2nd child, he can be named Marty.
@@paulmccarthy1444 Maybe Dave is named after a family member, like a parent or grandparent, and Marty could then be named anything they wanted as the 2nd born son.
I barely remember anyone I went to high school with, and I saw some of them five days a week for four years. I have no problem believing that George, Elaine, and Biff wouldn't recognize Marty as the same guy they interacted with for a couple of times over a single week thirty years earlier.
In all fairness he had a pretty big impact on their lives though. They are only married and together because of him for instance.
Plus, between George and Lorraine, they only knew Marty for maybe 5 hours
@@blunteastwood they only started dating, if you can call it that since they were on their first date, because of Marty/Calvin. They didn’t immediately fall in love and elope that night.
I have always wondered how George and Lorraine didn't recognise Marty when they grew up, even calling their son the same name as the person who brought them together when they were young.
@@michaelclark7447 George and Loraine knew him as Calvin, not Marty.
I'd say an even bigger plot hole in Titanic is the fact that there were hundreds of people in the water and not a single one of them fought Rose and Jack for control of the door.
Well.... they did just see Jack punch that guy off Rose....
@@Flamyll well that.....and the fact that most of them were probably already dead
@@DarkAnon100 Not all of em.... yet....
@@Flamylland I’m sure a punch hurts a lot less than freezing in the water
@@MrChinesename It's not about what hurts more, rather that he was ready to throw down. Making him dangerous in those circumstances.
The bigger plot hole in Titanic is why was the water only freezing once they got off the ship? They run around in it for 10 minutes without any issue or any sign of being remotely cold.
I think it was because the boilers below deck were still keeping the heat going along with the power. So once they were out of the flooded places they would have enough time to warm back up until they went back into the water
If the solution is having jack say “the water’s cold” when they were running around, I’d say it’s nitpicking
She screams from the cold the second she drops into the water to save Jack
@@reaceness The scream Kate let out was real because the water really was cold. Cameron left it in because it made the scene more realistic.
Yeah and whats funny is Jack even mentions that. He tells Rose he grew up in Wisconsin and if you fall into ice water the shock alone will cause you serious pain and trauma. Then they just totally ignore it a couple hours later.
Cypher made a code which allowed him to meet with the Machines with the Machines being aware of him. The Operators were there to keep the Machine from finding the humans who were not operating within the Matrix and giving them a way to log out. Its not a plot hole. The Machines wanted Cypher's help, so they let him log out without the need of an Operator.
Yes! Exaclty
Very good point. Well made.
On top of that operators control the training simulations as well as setting up the prep simulations like the infinite armory. I think operators are mostly there because humans at the time really wouldn't trust a computer program to have control over something as important as if they can get in and out of the matrix alive or not.
The one from “The Matrix” never bothered me because when Neo walked in, Cypher’s reaction and awkward conversation indicated to me that he was up to something with the code.
Plus Cypher was going in specifically to meet with the Matrix agents, so the agents permitted him easy access to come and go. Neo and the rest of the crew are hunted by the Matrix, and it helps to have at least someone outside in a position to see the bigger picture to monitor the connections, to alert for incoming system threats, and to help guide them to alternate escape routes when they get detected.
@@AurickLeruexactly what i was thinking
I never even realized they NEEDED an operator on the outside, I thought it's just convenience.
My thought is, how many coders would there reasonably be in their group?
A group of random people kicked out of the matrix that they happened to be around to save.
He might have lied to them about needing an operator ages ago, so he would be kept around.
I felt the exact same.
Ah Jules man, always uplifted when you sign off, needed it this week.
I hope you're good too my dude.
Back to the Future: my best friend and I went through highschool together, all 5 years from start to grad, and the amount of people she straight up doesn't know from our grade is shocking. She doesn't remember names or faces (granted none of them lead her to meeting the love of her life). I'll start tellibg her some shocking goss and she will have no idea who I'm talking about AND THEY WERE IN OUR CLASS. We are only 28 and I'm still amazed by it.
@@erakfishfishfish And even if you did when you saw them in the Facebook group, it isn't like you would have known them from memory. And equate that to your third child that you saw grow up.
Hell, when I was 10-12 or so, I used to ride the bus with a girl who was my best friend for several years. I remember she had straight brown hair and a scar near her mouth. We rode the bus every day together.
If you were to show me pictures of several girls with that description, I couldn't pick her out.
@@jimbobjones9330 You wouldn't recognize someone who was your best friend for several years as a teen? I ran into someone who was my best friend as a teen at Disney World when I was in my forties (50 now), as she was walking past me, and I instantly recognized her. I could pick out classmates from grade school. I don't think you're giving your memory enough credit.
Regarding the Thor one, it was actually stated and shown in a prequel comic to The Dark World how Thor got to earth with Dark Magic long before Infinity War, not to mention that line from Loki in Avengers I feel was explanation enough anyways. Plus, it's also stated in Avengers that they intended to use the Tesseract's power to repair the Bifrost (I think it's also brought up in the prequel comic too), hence it being fixed in Dark World after Thor brought the Space Stone to Asgard with Loki.
I think the fact that we have to go to a comic should be reason enough that it was too handwaved or is a plot hole for the movie its in. But is better then a 7yr wait for the fix
@@aschaff3995 Like I said, I still feel like Loki's line in Avengers was explanation enough anyways. If you think of it logically, it makes sense that they'd have other ways of transportation between realms that predated the Bifrost. Dark World even brings up how Loki used them previously as well. Plus, considering the Thor stuff being heavily magic based, saying he got back with magic is totally believable; and calling it 'dark magic' pretty much explains why they prefer to use the Bifrost, because of beliefs/dark magic usage being frowned upon. S:
@@aschaff3995an unexplained reason is not a plot hole.
In the first movie Loki tells Heimdall that there are paths to Asgard that even he cannot see.
To add to your point, in the first movie it's established that Heimdall's sword is the key to operating the Bifrost, but when Odin banishes Thor he uses his staff and lightning to open the Bifrost and blast him through it. Given that at the time of The Avengers, the real Odin is still alive, it doesn't take a jump in logic to assume that he can easily access the so called dark magic needed to send Thor to Earth especially given how badly Asgard wanted Loki to be captured. Considering that Odin falls into the Odinsleep shortly after he banishes Thor, it also adds into the reason they prefer the easy way of using the Bifrost.
If we need a solution to not using the pipes in Inside Out, I’d say
1) the pipes can take back orbs, not homunculi
2) Joy doesn’t trust the other 3 to take care of the core memories until she gets back
3) core memories are too powerful to use the pipes
I totally made up #3 but it could have easily worked in the movie. 15-30 second sequence of Joy saying “wait that thing can take orbs back to the control room?” Trying it, then either backing out at the last second afraid fear, disgust, or anger would touch and corrupt them (like sadness had) or trying to put it into the pipe but they get shot back out at her to which a maintenance worker says “woah that’s a big one you may need to bring it up manually”
Or make core memories slightly larger than regular memories. Then when they try and send the core memories through the pipes, they just can't fit
Or just simply, Rileys brain wouldn't allow it. Her brain needed to figure out the importance of sadness first.
or even because of her emotional disturbance when the workers attempt to show Joy and Sadness the pipes the memory gets jammed and they then mention it will take some time to fix.
8:45. The operators are needed for position, warning/ direction (if agents invade) and extraction. If Cypher planned on only going to one place, meeting with agents on good terms, and extracting after a set amount of time, that algorythm sounds pretty possible for an in-matrix hacker to figure out.. you know, by sci-fi logic
Yeah, operators do a lot more than dial in and out, like the "upload the ability to fly a helicopter" thing.
With the Matrix ‘plot hole’ , I assumed Smith simply let him back out. The operators are hacking the system but as he’s there and in cahoots with Smith, seemed logical Smith would create the link
I always wondered whether that was what Cypher was doing when Neo startled him. I reckon it's partly the reason why he tries to make Neo think he was looking at girls ("All I see is blonde, brunette, redhead...") cos he knows Neo can't 'read' the code on the screens and see that he's actually talking to Smith. It's also why Cypher turns off the other screens once he knows Neo is there.
James Cameron is a fantastic filmmaker. He’s also very sensitive and seeming insecure about his work. He’s correct. The only person who would’ve thought of the life jacket hack under those conditions is Jimmy Neutron mid Brain blast. But that doesn’t mean the Mythbusters are full of shit. Their whole goal is to see if something is possible, and they proved it was.
Well said Rayneozier
The way Jules always ends these videos is legit the best thing on the internet! I wish I could have an endless loop of those playing constantly so I can tune in whenever I need a pick me up or to hype myself up for something!
YES!!!!!!!!
He used to do a lengthy "I f-ed your mom" joke every episode until I, and presumably many other, complained every episode to get him to change his act.
It was really out of place to have the host of an entertainment channel making lewd remarks every episode
My question is how Rose survived at all. She was clearly mostly submerged at one point, leaving every inch of her and her clothes soaking wet.
You can survive freezing temps whilst wet for some time, and I understand it’s never stated how long before a boat came back. But how was she not dead from hypothermia within 10-15 minutes?
It's plausible she might not die being she was young healthy, but it's a good point.
Jules' final comments always make their way into my heart. You are inspiring and encouraging! Keep doing what you're doing Jules!!
He used to do a lengthy "I f-ed your mom" joke every episode until I, and presumably many other, complained every episode to get him to change his act.
It was really out of place to have the host of an entertainment channel making lewd remarks every episode
One thing I always wondered about the Matrix is how he sat up in the pod before being flushed out. After he gets picked up by Morpheus and crew they have to hook him up to electrodes to get his muscles strong enough so he can move around. If he's too weak to move until they give him the electrode therapy, how could he have sat up in the pod or had the strength to pull the feeding tube out?
Maybe a sudden rush of adrenaline? Who knows….
In James Cameron's defense he's right. I'm of reasonable intelligence (I think) and I doubt I'd think of using the life jacket in that moment
Well, to be fair, Jack is just a fantasy created to explain away the necklace.
in both yours and Cameron's defence, even if you are of high intelligence (130+) the likeliness of you being able to produce this kind of solution under those conditions is slim to none; given a non-existent time limit and an ideal working condition I'm sure the solution is "simple"
I could have made it work. No big deal.
Agreed...but that doesn't make the Mythbusters full of shit either 😂
@@Xezukaful the point isn't if you could make it work, it's if you would even think to do it in the first place.
I was so upset that they didn’t do The Prison Scene in Star Trek. My Uncle actually got the chance to be part of Star Trek and his part was a no name Prisoner in that scene. As a long time Trekkie, my Uncle was so happy just to be there.
For the Matrix, I’m my head cannon, the reason you need an operate is to jake you in and out (which is why he was writing the program) and to watch for agents and other hostile programs. He was going it to meet the agents and no other hostile programs will mess with them.
‘You have a HEAD CANNON? That is awesome dude!’ - Spiderman
You didn’t think I’d catch your video plot hole WhatCulture?
The title of the video says 10 infamous movie plot-holes, but you only show us 8!! And then even at the end of the video, you say that was 10 infamous plot-holes again!! You tried to be sly, but I caught it😂
I assumed the cypher issue is just that they’re always going on missions and that operators only can pay attention when you call for them. They aren’t 1:1 watching you all the time.
precisely, Cypher probably went on a detour, he didn't go into the Matrix specifically for that meeting.
I always thought that. There was an operator but the operator didn't know what Cypher was doing.
I understand the confusion, tho, because the scene of Cypher and Smith happens just before the conversation between Neo and Cypher, and Cypher is alone when Neo leaves, but we really can't know if Cypher plugged himself to the Matrix just after that.
BTW, there is a scene when they are all in the Matrix where Cypher discards his phone. The framing suggest that action was kind of important, but we really don't know why he does that. My hypothesis is that mobile phones are used for tracking, but only when they are carried by the one being tracked. He could have done that same thing when he met Smith.
6:00 - Spock literally says how Nero waited for 25 years for him and how for Spock it was seconds since they went into the Black hole.
And for Nero's revenge he needed the red matter... That Spock had so Nero needed to wait for him
Honestly I like the fan theory on the Matrix. Cypher ask Mouse to set him up with the Woman in the red dress, and mouse leaves to give them privacy and that's how he met up with Agent Smith.
You know I had two theories for the Inside Out plothole.
One: It didn't click in the minds of Joy and Sadness to use the recall tubes.
Or
Two: it was Joy's pride that got in the way, thinking that she could fix everything alone, reinforced by the fact that she pushed Sadness out of the broken recall tube quote "Riley needs to be happy"
The bridge is destroyed, so it's going to be near impossible for Thor to get back...
-Actually, it was super easy, barely in inconvenience....
;-)
I'm gonna need you to get all the way off my back!
Gonna side with Cameron on that one. A lot going on to start McGyvering a raft out of a door.
I've seen the episode and I can't for the life of me remember how they ever got the straps of a life jacket to get around an object of that size. If you can't attach them, then the jacket will just keep slipping out from underneath and provide no support.
I 100% agree with all of the plotholes you pointed out. I really love your videos.
One additional comment. I probably started watching yout videos about a year and a 1/2 ago. I Made a comment about how I really liked what you said at the end. About being a massive ledge, and, how it actually did pick up my day and gave me confidence.
Somebody made fun of me for it. I was embarrassed and I deleted my comment.
It's always bothered me so today I want to say to the person who made fun of me. Please think before you text, you're being disrespectful, and only hurting others.
Never care what other people say and let them make you feel any less than amazing.
Don't let the negativity get you down. You should feel good about yourself. The small people who need to make fun of other people to make themselves feel better are just sad.
@@Suho1004 Thank you!!! I was warned about these people, but I was not ready at the time.
Here's a big pothole: you got "10 plotholes*" in the name but there's only 8 in the actual video
Amazing video Jules from what culture of plots solve in movies by the film makers, fantastic job.
The video is great as always, but I really needed to hear that bit at the end. Thanks Jules.
Loved the ending of this video, keep up the good work & putting smiles on faces
The most infamous of all plot-holes
The Kessel Run
Took 41 years to be fixed on-screen
The Back to the Future one, I always thought that George and Lorraine might have thought at some point that their son was the spitting image of the guy who got them together, but I doubt that even a sci-fi nerd like George would actually believe that time travel is a reality and think that "Calvin Klein" was their son all along. Bear in mind that Doc Brown has a reputation for being a bit of a nutter, so I think it's safe to assume that nobody believed he could invent something as far out and advanced as a time machine.
Remember when Lorraine's mum said that Marty looked familiar to her and Lorraine commented that kissing Marty was like kissing her brother? Neither of them jumped to the conclusion that he was their future son/grandson, so I think it would be reasonable to assume that George and Lorraine probably rationalised it as a coincidence.
I'm not saying you did it on purpose but you just lied at the end here. Lorraine's mom did not say anything like that. You're thinking about when Lorraine straight up kissed Marty and then said that it felt like kissing her brother. At no other time was there a mention of kissing her brother.
@@scorpiusbalthazar4327 remember when she said “Marty, you look so familiar to me. Do I know your mother?”
@@KahnuevsKrake that's literally all that she said about that and what I responded to was saying something differently.
I mean, 30 years is a long time to remember someone who they don't even have pictures of.
For inside out, the film is a allegory for depression and when you are depressed you struggle to grab hold of easy obvious solution. For example if you’re in a harmful relationship, the obvious solution is to leave and anyone outside can see that but it’s not so easy when it’s you. I see this as who they don’t just use the workers. Is it prefect or even intended… probably not but it works for me
Nice!!
The BttF one is the perfect example of bad criticism. As stated, it has a perfectly boring everyday explanation that's doesn't affect the plot. It's more an example of the insane need to have everything spelled out, from "oh no my tea was poisoned" (Dr Strange 2) to "oh, that's how Han got his random set decoration" (Solo)
Never saw the Cypher one as a plot hole. Operators are required to make a connection in and out of the Matrix. Connections which the agents and the system are trying to block. But Cypher working with the agents, I always assumed they gave him a backdoor access. The actual plot hole in the Matrix is the turning of humans into batteries thing.
The idea that George and Lorraine would forget Marty as teens is ridiculous. He skateboarded around the town and played Johnny B Good at the high school dance! Would YOU forget him??
exactly!! Marty wasn't just a dude that showed up for a week and went away. The guy had all sorts of skateboarding adventures, played Johnny B Goode at the Dance, was hit by a car by Lorraines dad and actually spent the night there, was a sexual interest of Lorraine, saved Lorraine from being sexually assaulted by Biff (kind of), and was ultimately the catalyst in the two of them becoming a thing. I mean, Hill Valley High School may be a rockin school, but that week had to by far be the most eventful thing to ever happen to them!!
This is a very good point
I think it's more the idea that they might not fully remember what he looks like 30 years later. Like they probably vaguely remember what he looked like, but not in detail.
@@memyself898 1-2 moments on a skateboard does not equal "all sorts". Having said that, everything else you said is accurate. I don't remember 95 percent of the people in high school and that counts teachers but if I was Lorraine I wouldn't forget the man I fell in love with before George took my place. You're telling me she doesn't remember the kiss that felt like kissing her family? C'mon man!
@@flibbidyx2 You know what would jog that memory? Seeing that dude as a kid growing up in your house.
you know the outro on this is really awesome. its gave me a good feeliong to hear something positive said about me, even though you dont know me and arnt actually speaking to me directly
The first Avengers film actually shows how the bifrost was (most likely) repaired. At the end, when Thor takes Loki and the tesseract back to Asgard, they turn the device the tesseract is in, and it takes them to Asgard. When you look at the ground where they teleported, there’s the same marking on the ground that the Bifrost makes
So, two plot holes in this video alone - it can't decide if we're going to get 8 or 10 examples, and it claims that Cypher killed Tank, when Tank survives the first film, killing Cypher in revenge for the death of his brother Dozer.
While Tank survived to the end of the first film, he was killed off screen by the time Matrix Reloaded came out and the implication was that he died from the wounds inflicted by Cypher. At least, that's how I interpreted it since Link, his brother in law, replaced him as Operator
They explain that the bifrost was fixed using the tesseract in one of the tie-in comic books.
And the plot hole isn't really a plot hole in the first place. We don't need to see everything happen on screen or explained in detail for it to not be a plot hole.
The plot hole for Back to the Future is quite easily explained by this one point. George, Elaine and Biff wouldnt remember Marty because they know that time travel doesnt exist.
Think about it. We, as the audience, knew that Marty went back in time. But for any of them in the past, nobody would believe that their son is the same person.
Another plot hole how did doc brown and Marty know each other? What was the introduction? What was the moment Marty saw him as a friend?
I always thought that in the third Back To The Future they could have easily solved the "gasoline doesn't exist in 1855" problem by going to the Delorean that Doc hid in the cave and siphoning the gas out of it, if he hadn't already. Not sure if that counts as a plot hole but it certainly was an overlooked solution to their problem.
If you know anything about cars....you can't leave gas or fluids in a car for too long....and they didn't want to alter what doc did to the cave cause if they messed up then Marty would be in a paradox and not be able to go back with doc in 1885
maybe that Delorean in that cave was without any fuel. Maybe Doc tried to escape 1885 a few times before he runs out of gasoline.
@@ianvchavez I completely get that(by that logic Marty would of had to spend a solid few days getting the Delorean to run after a 100 years sitting, I have a '69 Fastback and that thing was a pain flushing the fluids to get it to stay running and it only sat for 20 something years). As a scientist Doc would probably have taken the gasoline out of the Delorean before storing it, so the it's more likely he used it all in experiments before Marty made it back.
You leave gasoline in a car for seventy years, it turns into varnish and clogs the fuel system. Doc is too much of a gearhead to leave 1955 Doc with that headache.
Star Trek's biggest plot hole is toward the end. They go to warp to escape the black hole, but are being pulled in anyways. So they eject the warp core, meaning they can no longer hold their speed and that they would fall into the hole at a much accelerated rate.
If you want another movie with plot holes, the entire movie "Back to the Future II" is based on a massive paradox. When Biff goes back and gives his younger self the book, the entire future old Biff came from would cease to exist. Since Doc Brown was murdered, he wouldn't of lived long enough to invent the time machine and even if he had, the future old Biff returns the delorean to wouldn't have existed for him to go to.
When old Biff returns to his timeline, you can see he is in much pain. That's not explained in the movie, but there was a deleted scene that showed old Biff disappearing from existence, as should be. You are right, the Delorean should have disappeared too, but maybe time-machines are exempt from those delayed-ripple-effects?
I don't buy Bob Gale's explanation at all. Marty had a major impact on their lives. He's not some random guy they went to high school with for a week. Also, you may not be able to remember the faces of friends you had in high school. But if they were important to you, you would recognize them when seeing them. You can look at old high school photos and pick out people by name. At least I can.
If Buzz Lightyear didn't know he was a toy in the first movie then why did he stop moving when Andy showed up?
There’s a theory George McFly figured out it was Marty but never told his wife…way too long to type out - but essence of it was George’s obsession with Sc-Fi and his encounter with the Alien in 1955 that made him pursue Eilaine.
I want to know how Doc ever got into the DeLorean at the beginning of the movie? It's doors open out, there is barely any space on the drivers or passengers sides. Yet he's inside when the ramp lowers and then backs off the transport truck...
Hahaha. Good point.
You need less than a foot of space to open gullwing doors on a DeLorean.
They open up in a trailer the same as they would in a tight parking spot. In other words, no problem at all, because there would be an issue if the occupants couldn't open the doors to get out of the car.
The way that George and Lorraine look at Marty and Jennifer at the end of the film… they know. The issue is, they can’t let Marty know that they know until he’s gone back in time, but they don’t know when that will be. The way he’s acting weird that morning indicates that it’s probably happened.
Yeah I always just figured it was an Aunt May situation. Even then, THEIR account of events is effectively that they got together because of antagonism with Biff, since Marty did most of his work offscreen.
To them it isn't like "We wouldn't have kissed if Calvin didn't play that song" or "George wouldn't have knocked out Biff if Calvin didn't do something at some point [shrug]". Calvin's just a guy who tagged along with them for a week then disappeared.
I'm really surprised you didn't mention The Terminator plot hole in which John Connor would have to exist in the first place before he could grow up and then send his dad back in time to conceive him.
That was a stable time loop.
Before the follow up movies in the franchise crapped on the premise.
that is a common time paradox , not a big deal
That is a time paradox as someone else mentioned, but not necessarily a plot hole. Take what we know about the franchise and extrapolate and you have a very simple answer:
In a previous "loop", a desperate move by humans in the future led to them sending someone back in time to try to stop the creation of Cyberdyne. John Connor didn't exist at this point, but a resistance movement still came about and sent someone back in time to try to stop the rise of the machines. That someone was Kyle Reese, and while he is in the past he hooks up with Sarah Connor. Probably just stumbled into the diner she worked at
Now you have everything in place for the events of the films to occur on the next loop - Cyberdyne created the terminators, humanity was nearly wiped out before John (presumably after Sarah dies) decides he can't just stay in hiding and starts gathering up survivors to form a resistance movement which turns the tide. Now its Cyberdyne making the desperation move to time travel in an attempt to win the war. The first Terminator film takes place at this point.
Of course, this also means that, like the Matrix series, it is entirely possible that there were dozens of loops that occurred before all of this.
@@asdfag557 yeah, thats just the basic grandfather paradox. Its only complicated if Kyle Reeses parents died in the past. The rest is perfectly stable and normal. He could only mess it up if John accidentally shot Kyles dad which is a literal grandfather paradox
@@daltigoth3970 and all killing John accomplished was eradicating Kyle from the timeline. The damage is minimal anyway since Sarah still had all the skills and knowledge necessary. By all rights it would reset her to before the t 800 found her but outside of that. Nothing is really altered. Its like mixing a bit of genesys into the mix and she grew up with t 800 caring for her
The easiest fix for monsters inc would be that they didn't actually meet but knew of each other. Like being in the next class room over or having a faud through sports or whatever. Don't need to meet your rivel in order to beat their best score js
Who is to say that after Doc gives Marty the picture of the two of them with the clock tower, Marty goes home and tells his parents the whole time travel story and they tell him that they knew the whole time???
Now that's a short I would love to see!!!
But they name their (3rd) child after him! ‘Marty. That’s such a nice name…’
They think his name is Calvin Klein
Dave might be named after a father or grandfather, and it's traditional to name the firstborn son after them. One is a daughter, and they were thinking of Marty for a boy. Then, they got their chance to name a boy what they wanted, so they named their 2nd born son Marty.
I always thought they did remember Marty and that's why they gave him the truck. As a thank you for getting them together. One of those unspoken admissions so to speak.
That was very kind of you. Quite touching really.
I did t find STAR TREK to be a plothole, he clearly stated in the movie he waited for 25yrs for Spock to plot his revenge.
I wonder if they ever talked about how Batman got back to Gotham in The Dark Knight Rises.
8 TV Show Creators Who's Mainline Series Overshadows their other works
My whole issue with number one. James Cameron himself went ot the mythbusters to test that myth upon the re release of the movie in theatres. Also, they had the other solution of if Jack and Rose alternated it was plausible they both lived to see rescue. No offense to a legendary director I never met, but coming out a few years later to decry a result he himself asked to test.... Not a good look
He sounds like an idiot crying about it. The Mythbusters team is great.
Yeah I recall him being accepting and chill with it in the episode. Basically "Yes, it's possible but it's just not something that happened in this story" which was fine. There are plenty of scenarios where something could've gone much better if the participants had certain knowledge or a certain frame of mind or remained more calm but, just like real life, people often don't.
I always like your final words of your videos
The biggest plot hole is that the list is titled “10” but there is only actually 8.
He even says at the end, Those were 10... 🤪
Thank you for another fun video and as always, the encouraging words. They always make me smile!
The Inside Out one is pointless. The entire movie is allegory. Riley didn't actually have five mini-people living inside her head, or a forest made out of mini french fries, or an actual train that goes around and around inside her brain. Sometimes people are just annoying with this crap and manage to take all the fun out of stuff.
Let's say George and Loraine do know that Marty resembles a kid they met called Kelvin, it's not outside the possibility that they have already had that discussion years ago as Marty has resembled Kelvin to them for a few years now.
Calvin. Remember, he’s not the temperature guy.
Are Marty's parents really gonna remember a guy they knew thirty years ago for a few days?
You mean the guy that Lorraine fell in love with and tried to have sex with and she actually kissed him but it felt like kissing her brother? Yes, I'd say it would be easy for her to remember that and how he looked.
So the title says 10, you say 8 and then go through 8 and then say 10 at the end of the video lol. Ah I liked the video anyway lol!
If you do a TV version of this list, don't forget when Star Trek: Enterprise explained the difference in Klingons' appearance between TOS & TNG!
Not only was Marty there just a week but they didnt spend much time with him and nobody ever got a photo of the guy. Then 30 years passed.
And during his lifetime Marty slowly grew and his face changed so they would not have noticed it or put the two together.
I’ve wondered where that door came from. There were no other doors floating around and that one happens to appear
I'd argue that the Back to the Future question isn't actually a plot hole, more a strange quirk that people get into a twist about. What is a plot hole is how Doc gets transported to 1885, the Delorean gets struck by lightning but isn't travelling at 88 mph, it's just hovering?!?
Back at ya... Jules,,, thank you...
I thought Cameron entertained ideas for hypothetical rewrites. No matter what, though, he said Jack must die for thematic purposes.
"It was fun but they full of sh*t"
No that is something i believe would make Adam Savage chuckle hard and smile :D
or they do remeber since when they are standing at the door they smile they just dont remeber the old timeline the biff thing is rather funny and explains why he scared of marty he might remeber more and see the simalarites between calvin and marty and just get a feeling of danger. since each time they meet it doesnt end well for biff
Most of these were never plot holes to begin with. There is a difference between a plot hole (where a movie's fails to follow its own logic) and a character error (where a character does something we don't consider logical). Jack "tried" to get on the door, but he failed and they didn't keep trying. Marty's parents didn't recognize him. Joy didn't think of having the maintenance workers help. And so on.
Just because a viewer can think of a way around a particular puzzle that a character didn't (or think they would have better memory years later) doesn't mean it is a plot hole. It just means that the character isn't perfect.
Why do people keep calling the “raft” Rose gets on a door? It’s clearly a piece of a fireplace mantle in the overhead shot.
You're right, it's not a door. But the prop was based on the architrave from above the double doors in the first class lounge on A deck. It's the entrance to the corridor leading to the forward first class staircase.
In The Matrix, the use of operators are needed no matter what happens as they can look for "exits" and give live feedback from what is happening in the matrix... Cypher made a program that probably used a timer, meaning that he would go in with a countdown until the "exit phone" is called for him to get out. Yes it's a mind bender, but plausible within the rules of the movie.
The Back To The Future explanation is incorrect for one major reason:
Lorraine is later shown (the original 1985timeline) as beholden to memory.
It's a classic plothole and the excuse given for it by the film-makers betrays its own characters.
Maybe the video being titled as "10 Infamous Movie Plot-Holes" in itself is a plot-hole 🤔
Cypher didn’t kill Tank, just thought he did
The bigger plot hole in Stat Trek 2009 is how the Enterprise is able to eject the warp core but stay at warp. That's like your car launching your engine out but staying at 70mph down the A1
@@erakfishfishfish That's all fair enough, but they were being sucked into a black hole at the time when they ejected their engine yet retained their velocity...
Its quite obvious why operators are needed. They are there to provide directions, alerts and new exits if the original gets compromised. You most likely can code yourself an entry and exit points by yourself but it getting cut off is likely if anything goes wrong and thats where the operator comes in. Its not that hard to comprehend while watching the movie and what the operator does during it.
The Inside Out plot hole is basically LOTR
If memory serves the mythbusters also found that even the small increase in water covering the door from titanic would cause both rose and jack to die of hypothermia before help arrived.
Like star wars,you never know how much time passed in the movies.
Like in empire strike back,how much Luke train in dagobah?,a week?, A day?,a month?
Han Solo was frozen for a year.
I like the Family Guy bit of Bttf.
Simple, Asgard just had to take time to rebuild bifrost and with Tesseract back sped up probably. In Thor Ragnarok, you can even see the bifrost scar where it was broken.
#2. Umm, yes it's anomalous that Cypher can get into the Matrix without an accomplice. You're out of sequence in this video, though. He does that BEFORE he kills Tank and Dozer.
Oddly, though, writing a code explains nothing. If I've written my own video call program, does that explain how I make a call with no connection?
Better idea, if only in fan theory: pod-born people have latent wireless chips secretly implanted. The a.i. activated Cypher's so all he had to do was dream, and Smith would treat him to steak. In the sequel, Merovingian gets Neo's turned on, which has the side effect of enabling Neo to override Sentinels.
If all I need to do is connect and disconnect, I can write a script for that. If I'm actually a welcome guest that the host (The Matrix/Agents/etc) won't close while I'm hacked in. Operators can adapt the hack on the fly when The Matrix/Agents close exits and cause problems, and can guide those jacked in based on that overview...something a script to connect/disconnect could not. Operators aren't there because they're needed for the basic tasks...they're needed because they can hack, adapt, and advise on the fly like no script can, and when you're in a hostile environment, you need that to get back out.
Oh, I understand. Can be automated assuming the shipboard computer controls the connections. Um, also I guess buckling those restraints isn't entirely necessary. (Cypher's steak dinner isn't going to cause any of those involuntary spasms we see happen in the real world.) 😎
And the big jack someone's got to stick in the hacker's neck? Actually, I guess there's at least a couple different ways that can work. 1. Imaginably there's an automatic extender available that we weren't shown. 2. Maybe one can jack and un-jack oneself by hand if deft at it.
So it can make sense after all, afaik. Thanks,@@LezChap
Would love someone to explain to me how Hannibal Lecter got that pen and how he had time to mutilate two guards and string one of them up in the air in the movie 'Silence of the Lamb'
He stole it from the psychiatrist when he was talking to him. There's a scene where the doctor is fiddling with it while taunting Hannibal, and Hannibal is intently staring at the pen. That scene is placed there to show that he is able to grab the pen from the doctor, who carelessly leaves it lying unattended. The two guards were assumed to be safe up there alone with him. Once Hannibal incapacitated them both, he had plenty of time to kill and pose them. Then, he just had to wait until the other guard came back to retrieve the empty tray.
MIS-chuh-viss, not miss-CHEE-vee-us.
With the Back to the Future one, I'm with Family Guy. If I was Marty's dad, I'd be deeply suspicious that my wife ran into their old friend Calvin Klein a good 9 months before Marty was born haha
It wasn't 9 months. Marty was 17 and he traveled back 25 years.
@Juan Ausensi 9 months before he was born. As in the time it took for him to develop in the womb after conception.
Plot hole: 10 movie plot holes in the title but only 8 in the video.
There's a worse mistake in that scene from Titanic. It may not be a plot hole since it isn't crucial to the overall narrative, but it's a big inconsistency: Jack sinks after Rose lets him go.
Dead bodies float, both in real life and in the movie. They're all over the place in that scene.
Thematically, I understand why it happens. Despite her love for Jack, she has to let him go and not be tied down in order to live a fulfilling life for herself, and watching Jack disappear into the deep is a striking visual that really drives that point home, but it's also preposterous and makes no sense.
George is a science fiction nerd. I think he probably took interest in time travel after The Time Machine came out in 1960. There's also no way he could forget someone like Marty who came in one week and changed his life. Why would someone like that come into his life and care about his relationship? Maybe he's from the future. Maybe that's his son. I mean, Marty does accidentally call him dad.
Marty was most likely born in '69 and what was founded a year prior? Calvin Klein. I can see George asking a pregnant Loraine what she thought Marty's name was before finding out she was wrong and considered that CK is a clothing brand and the only time she saw that name was on his clothes. I bet that just put the icing on the cake and made George believe that it was his kid that he met in '55.
I also think that the reason why they credit Biff so much is because they know Marty is the one who goes back in time and they didn't want to mess up the timeline by telling the truth. Even if it's a silly theory, George probably would take it serious because of how much he loves Loraine.
Oh yes you can forget especially if you never took a picture.
George's book, 'A match made in heaven' is undoubtedly influenced by his experience with brain melting Darth Vader extraterrestrial from the planet Vulcan.
I've always thought the fact that Biff is forgiven for his attempted rape a bit of a plot hole.
The real mystery I keep trying to figure out is why there are so many videos on this channel that are titled "10" but start at 8 or less than 10
Plot hole, Back to the Future 2. why did Doc not just ring old Marty before he got home, and ask him to leave the front door open to let Jenifer out? Marty knows about the time machine so old Marty would remember it. and thus wouldn't be too shocked when doc calls him.
...I... no that's actually a great point. They're tricking someone who already knows about time travel and axiomatically by his younger self being ON this trip would know to begin with too. That doesn't even negatively impact the trip or cause any paradox situations.
And this is why you never overanalyze time travel no matter how much you enjoy the movie/game utilizing it really well.
why didnt doc just tell old marty what was going to happen to prevent most of the bad shit from happening to him? old marty/ older marty would know what can happen if something changed in the timeline doc tells him what could happen to him and his kids later on marty would do everything possbile not to do the drag race and such thus it would be like it was at the end of the movie anyway just no rich biff. i mean doc uses letters in the third one anyway sure marty used a letter first but it still works. you can just then have the movie be about doc showing off the future not connected to marty to younger marty and jen but still have either family in the background like number 3 did with his ancestors
@@jaeusa160 Old Marty didn't go into the future with Doc though. Young Marty goes to make sure his kid doesn't get sent to jail, but that would start a new timeline that Old Marty wasn't a part of.
But Old Marty does know time travel exists, so Doc could tell him something is going on, and he would probably help out.