Are 250's really THE WORST? (WR250R vs GSX250R)
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It's similar engine of wrf250 or xtz250 on a naked sport bike 😌👌
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I’d take the WR even if u did loop it tbh. Especially since I don’t have a motorcycle yet.
i don't think yam here even tried the CBR-250RR, or zx25r.. those are proper pocket rockets
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2003 Ktm 250 exc-f here. It's the safest bike possible because it usually breaks down before I can push its limits lol.
I love the KTM excf I’ve had great luck with my ktms
I'd say if it breaks before you could " Push it to it's limit " ..... Then you've already found it's limit
Me on my 50cc scooter hitting 45mph , "unlimited power!!!!!!"
Dont you mean kph?
As most 50cc mopeds are restricted to 45kph not mph
@@jackarock6425 I live in the US, in California and mopeds and scooters are classified differently, if it has pedals it's a moped and yea those have to be limited to 30mph, but with no pedals (the vespa looking scooters type) they are classified as motor-driven cycles up until 150cc where after that they are considered motorcycles. There are no speed limitations in my state for scooters and motorcycles and you need a motorcycle licence to operate even a 50cc scooter. So no I don't mean kph, 50cc scooters where I live can all do a minimum top speed of 40mph and I'm talking the 4 stroke slower ones. Personally i've reached 55mph indicated on mine but GPS says it's only 47 mph lol and mines a four stroke which surprised me.
Yammie Noob: "It's so slow!"
Me: chilling on my 15hp 125cc
I was just about to say that he forgot all about the rest of the world, where there are 125 restrictions
Me watching You with My 12 hp 125 cc lol
because youre not in America, we have wide open really fast roads and highways. its too slow for America.
It's all a matter of perspective, isn't it?! Rock on, brother!
The Gixer 250 is designed for young kids just turned legal age to apply for a bike license. It's all about the look to attract these kids riders rather than horsepower. It's also true that this bike is too slow to go up any American highways.
Call me a freak, but I kinda like how the gsxr 250 looks
Not a bad looker at all....it looks much bigger than a 250 for sure
I agree, just wish it had even the slightest hint of pep
It’s kind of pointless though and is massively out sold by its 125cc version in the U.K. infact that bike is leading in class.
The reality is the 250cc in the U.K./ euro market is pointless. The 125cc market is getting very good. The GSXR 125 has the best power to weight ratio and will do 70 mph (so max speed limit in U.K.) the 250cc does like 80s max.
It also falls in to the A2 category and therefore is competing with the ninja 400 and CBR 500R - or restricted 650s
Suzuki need to scrap it and bring out a competitive model that’s euro 5 compliant and competes with the ninja 400
same, i would consider it if it had some competitive power
The city speed limit was lowered to 25 recently in NY so my Grom is adequate.
So everyone still does 50?
@@nicksmith8166 Not after they receive a notice of liability in the mail doing 50 by a speed camera.
Grom is fun, I lookin for a mst 125 haha just to learn how to wheelie and stuf 😂 so fun
@@ritzevespa I wish there was a similar bike that size or a tad bigger that was like a 250.
Yammie you have to understand that these bikes are meant for commuting in the city or for twisty backroads. For european standards where the roadlanes are more limited and narrow these bikes are a better option than a heavy gas hogger large displacement bike. These bikes aren't compatible for american standards,that doesn't mean that they generally suck.
Totally agree, just because it doesn't meets the american riding styles and long wide roads it doesn't mean it's not a good option given the price
But guys when I gun it, as a newbie, I don't take off and immediately wind up on my riding partner's rear wheel!
You can make up all the excuses you want.
Most 250s are complete trash. The components are trash. The wheels suck. The brakes suck. The controls suck. The suspension sucks. They're just cheaply built, shitty bikes.
I don't care about the size. But the quality sucks. Even my Ninja 400, the quality was pretty poor. FZ-07 quality still isn't the greatest. But at least it sounds good and is fun and torquey.
Most 250s don't have any redeeming qualities. The WR, however, does.
watching spike talk about how a 250 is dangerous is rly funny, mans obviously never ridden a 125 4 stroke xD
Cries in European
He compared it to the grom.
Whaha it still runs 70+mph haha, looks good to me 😂
For the record his name is Spite.
Also really funny he blamed losing the 2nd roll on to "aerodynamics" while his weight "200 something +++" remains a closely guarded YN secret.
400lbs for a freaking 250 is pathetic! What did they make the frame out of, lead!?
WR250R is a freaking awesome bike.
Agree on both counts!
If I were in the market for a small displacement bike and didn't want a dual sport, I'd probably get a Ninja 400. Those are reasonably priced too, at around $5K. And from all reports, so much more capable than the GSX250R.
@@WRjockey Yes sir, I agree with you as well. I'm actually looking for a used Ninja 400 to turn into my dedicated track bike. Did a track day last week and met someone with a Ninja, he was killing it on that thing. Made friends and he let me on the bike, its exactly what I want. Cheap, not slow, light, and hella fun.
Wr250F is even more amazing
250cc gets all the crap and is called "dangerously slow"
Meanwhile in UK: You are legally allowed to ride bikes only up to 125cc that can barely max out 70mph until you are 19.
Similar in turkey, you can only go witth 250cc till 20 and then another 4 years for anything above 600cc
Look up the power to weight
@@yammienoob well, you've got a point there, my friend
@@yammienoob But A2 license is limited by power to weight meaning it hurts lightweight high power machine
That stinks. Authoritarian governments are the worst.
So real talk: I own a gsx250r, and it's a fine around-town bike. Nothing wrong with it, and it's cheap.
There is one MAJOR red flag, though. The maintenance schedule requires that the valves are checked and adjusted every 5000km, which is absolutely mental. They're a giant money pit if you aren't able to do that work yourself.
Buy something- anything - else.
In reality though; do they actually move beyond the first initial check? The old Air/Oil Cooled BMW R1100/1150/1200 had 6,000 mi intervals for the checks (longer yes) BUT on the 3 of them that I've owned and 40,000 miles they NEVER moved. Same deal with Honda XR600s I've owned they never were out when inspected past the initial break in.
@@GregHuston For sure, it's a complete scam. They won't move, but they're kind of in cahoots with the dealerships - making a potentially new motorcycle rider believe that this kind of maintenance is normal and squeezing as much money out of them as possible when they're hoping to maintain the 5 year factory warranty on their bike.
I ride a cbr 250 and love it can't convince me other wise.
try riding another bike
Love what you ride.🤷
I have 250cc and larger, I ride the 250 the most.
I had an R3 when I started out and it was EASILY the most genuine fun I ever had on a motorcycle. Obviously it's fun popping up the wheel at speed or bombing a highway at 200kph, but the days of learning on a first bike? * chef kiss * unmatched
I absolutely loved my CBR250R. I got it up to 92mph once! It's geared far better than the GSX250R for the highway.
I replaced it with a yammie 600 but my girlfriend has my old baby blade now. She commutes every day to work no problem. It's a delightful little motorcycle.
I feel like "too slow to be safe " is the sport boyz version of "loud pipes save lives" ... There's a point of truth but there's more than a little ego involved.
Yeah that is true as a beginner you should be able to swim with the Traffic not slow it down but also not zoom past is
I disagree, the slowest car on the road is usually the most dangerous, I can't count how many times driving away from traffic has kept me safer.
I'd say it's certainly truth. My 125cc had a 0 to 60 of 18 seconds. That made pulling out onto a 60mph limit road very dangerous and made me need a huge gap to be able to get up to speed safely. And sitting on a motorway going uphill and barley holding 60 and being passed by semis and cars doing 60, 70 or even 80 is certainly not safe.
"Too slow to be safe" is an absolute fact of life in most of the United States. I used to ride an old CB250N Nighthawk, which was lighter than the baby Suzuki, with similar power. It was fun enough around town - but once you get out on the US Highways or 55+ MPH State Routes - it simply had no reserve in the tank to pull away from a potentially bad spot. It would top out at 80ish (if you tucked a bit): but it wasn't quick getting to the top speed. I never took it on the Interstate, as merging would be downright dangerous. I mean, if you lived and rode in some town or city where you NEVER need to keep up with the flow of ANY highway traffic, it would suffice. But the GSXR250 is basically a cooler looking stand in for a scooter.
It true, but it also occasionally gets used in a way that is also kinda BS. 30Hp is probably American freeway 'safe,' but more power gives you more options which can seriously make safer. Thing is, you reach of point of diminishing returns. After maybe 60HP or so the 'safety' options that even more power would bring you are rare in occurrence. So when a guy says, "Yeah I needed to upgrade from my MT-07 because it was too slow to be safe on the freeway." That's exaggerating quite a bit.
Moving from say 35HP to 50HP will, however, make you feel much more confident maneuvering in 75mph traffic.
-t Small bike lover.
Im in the uk and have a gsxs 125 since its all im allowed, 6 months wait for a direct access test for a full licence. Still a fun bike to have a run around especially on the roads in snowdonia north wales
I have one too, its a great bike to toss around town
But as good as the WR is, Yamaha has pulled it. Would be interesting to see you guys try what’s left of Yamaha dual sports, the TW 200 and XT 250.
if you think that's slow, try a 1980 50cc Vespa, 3 or 4 gears depending on the model, 1 HP (maybe 2, if you change the carb) of madness :D
Dude haha, I've got a Piaggio ciao with one gear haha 😂 0.6kw friking thing, I've upgraded it now with variomatic 😂
250s aren't the worst. Just that the great 250s aren't sold in NA
I really hope that Suzuki will make something like a GSX400R as a replacement for the GSX250R. It could weigh about the same as the Ninja 400, or maybe even less, and make around the same amount of power. Then it would be worthy of being called a Gixxer
One can only dream
Not replace but add....I like the GSX250R for safety reasons.
Ok I quite like the way dual sports look. Not sure why people always say they look bad. 🤔
My WR250R looks fantastic! It is anything but ugly...
Seriously... That's how a motorcycle is supposed to look in my opinion.
Cmon yammie make that 6k cash prize international🥺🥺
Would love to see more dual sport content on the channel. Y'all should check out the new Honda/Kawi 300s for comparisons, or gear up and do a BDR series or something. Would be super fun!
Where I live you have to have 125cc until you are 19. I had a KTM RC125 and had no problems riding anywhere and didn't find many times I felt dangerously slow. I think its more your country is soo used to faster bikes.
there all americans with straight roads only and 55mph zones everywere, thats why. yet its still pretty dumb argument as a 125 can do highway speeds just fine. (speaking from experience)
@@ingardammen-dahl6766 yeah I agree. Don't get me wrong more power is nice a have a Z800 now but it never felt dangerous
What tyrannical gov’t doesn’t allow you to buy the bike you want??? Where are you?
@@03Grunt-arrino all of Europe, the UK and Australia I think, you call it tyrannical I call it cautionary, a 16 year old gets a 125, after 2 years he can get any cc up to 47bhp or so, which is fine and pretty fun in countries without America’s huge straights, after 2 years you’re free to pick
Most sub 100hp bikes have a 47hp option that can be unlocked to full power
@@ingardammen-dahl6766 Here in the states they cant do highway " just fine". You have to look at this from the context of the USA based audience that this video is targeted at. The problem is that because you cannot maintain speed you literally become an obstacle for other motorists to avoid. If you are on a 65mph road you already have cars and semi trucks whizzing by you at 80+mph not being able to even remotely maintain pace with that traffic puts you in a very bad spot. The other part of the problem is the more urban it gets the worse this issue becomes. and the more aggressive the drivers become. If you were on the road all by yourself it would be a non issue but the reality is there are other drivers on the road and they are all in a hurry...
I speak from personal experience on this even 55mph roads headed into Boston MA on my TW200 are just asking to get yourself hurt. Way too little power to keep up with the flow of traffic and the drivers are so aggressive that you are in a dangerous spot. I have had enough close calls that i rarely take the TW on roads exceeding 45mph and even then its only in rural areas, other wise i do not have the power to keep up.
Fair enough, hey, I have the CBR250R in the repsol colours, lolz, not sure why they made it in a 250cc. I’m really getting a kick out of learning on it and am already reaching for more of a top gear on straights. I know it’s a nod to the original MotoPro V5 version which must be INSANE to ride! (Bucket list). However due to the concerning high number of serious injuries and deaths that seem to occur in motorcycle accidents, I feel I should dedicate at least a year on the 250cc to get the corner handling down pack and how to reduce speed when going into different types of corners especially when I’m pumping along and ‘don’t feel like’ slowing down due to adrenaline etc.
If your into prepping...the 250 dual sports are the best buy for your money...
In Iran, anything above 250 is not road legal. So we don’t have much of a choice but the “abysmal” GSX250
That sounds fucked up man
Dafuq is that haha, come over to europe and ride some sick 600cc+ engines
@@ritzevespa na come over to America and ride some sick 1000cc+ bikes 😎😎
That sounds backwards. In America you can't go on the freeway with less than 15 HP. In Iran if you are allowed to purchase bikes bigger than 250, what would you do with it? Also what is the logic to a law like that. Could it be that traffic moves so slow that you can't really use anything bigger than a 250?
I'm actually really digging my duke 200. It does lack power, but I won't launch myself off doing a wheelie on accident. It's my first bike and not intimidating.
That fender eliminator on the wr looks really nice
So the WR250R was always king of small displacement dual sports.
Has that changed now with the new CRF300L and KLX300?
All that to say, we all know the DR200 is the best small displacement bike for people with big nards.
The WR is still king. Better suspension. Better service intervals. Only thing the 300s might do Better is cruise on the highway
If money is not an issue then the ktm 250, 350 and 450 would do the trick.
Curious how the Honda CB300R compares. 315 pounds wet, 31 hp, 20 ft lb of torque, not for off road though.
This was an incredibly entertaining and oddly good comparison lmfao
The idea of same engine size on a different bike is super fun, Road Glide vs Busa when👀👀👀
Lol here in Europe a 125 is considered a good starter bike so a 250 would be more than enough
honestly, i think you should stop saying 650s are beginner bikes, that's a dangerous statement to make, a ninja 300/400 is kiiiinda alright i guess, this gsx250r is shit regardless, together with the cbr250
the wr250 is definitely a great beginner bike if the rider is tall enough
Pssh i love my wr250r minus the twitchiness on the 130. Man you guys picked a great ride area around here.
Dual sport/ adventure/ supermoto is my dream first bike because I love the dirt. All I got in the stables at the moment is my very first 50cc dirtbike I bought back and fixed up for my 2 year old son for when he's old enough. It's not much but still keeps me entertained 😆
If there’s no WR300R or 350R soon, then Yamaha made a mistake discontinuing the WR250R. I will keep mine forever unless maybe $GME takes off and Yamaha releases a new and improved version 😂
Honestly, over here in europe that GSX250R could actually be usefull for couriers, UberEats,Takeaway,Just Eat etc.
Cheap and not stupid fast.
At that point get a 150cc road bike. Most of the couriers where i live have them. Much better seat position and literally dirt cheap
@@LeonQuadros There is a problem with EU regulations also about emissions.
I used to work as courier but on a Mercedes Vito 115CDI.
My first bike was a WR 400 F. But I used it to rail ride, not dual sport. Fantastic machine.
"31.3 in I can flat foot that like nothing"
Me still tiptoeing a 30in seat:😥
I find it funny how North Americans think 250cc is a small engine or that those bikes are slow/incapable of riding in highways. In Brazil the highway speeds are 100-110km/h (63-69mph), but just like in other places, people usually ride/drive a bit above the limit. Brazil's filled with 150cc bikes that keep up just fine on highways, sometimes with a passenger in the back. Sure, the bike might be at the end of its available power at that point, but people spend years riding their bikes this way and they keep working. You might argue that it's not as fun to have a bike that limited, but then again, it doesn't mean the bike isn't capable of highway speeds, it definitely is. Almost sounds like a spoiled vision of a nation that grew used to having powerful machines and now deems everything below 500cc a "slow bike".
Yammie Noob if you can do a review on. KTM 690 SMC R that would help out so much since im looking at buying that bike next, that would be great.
I've had a CBR250R and I currently have a CBR250RR with the inline 4 engine and honestly they're fine. I've yet to do highway riding on the RR, but the single cylinder R was able to do highways just fine. It isn't that happy at that speed, but it can do it.
I will generally tell new riders to get nothing bigger than a 300 for their first bike. Preferably something cheap and a bit beat up. Not that I know any new riders or anyone wanting to start. But from my experience it's easier to stop a 250 from falling than a 500. That little bit of weight makes a difference when the bike is halfway to the ground.
As a wr250r owner i can't say enough good about that bike. It is remarkably good offroad as well. If it had like 10 hp more it would be Unbeatable. They have bullet proof reliability as well.
The 1990s two stroke 250s (NSR, TZR, RGV and Aprilia RS) would blow away any of todays 250/300/400s.
I threw my gsx250 away after 10 k miles. Im getting me a 2007 speed triple. I'm loving it. I know you hate me yamie and won't see this but I listened. I'ma be a triumph boi for a while!
Gixxer 250 or smaller displacement bike is actually a very practical bike in many other parts of the world where streets are a lot smaller and crowdier. We don't really need a 400cc bike to get from point a to b because many Asian cities for example are very compact. Also parking is an issue. Different bike is required to park according to its displacement size. It's often very difficult to park. Different displacement also means different taxation as well. I think you guys are creating quality content on here. But sometimes hearing you guys trashing smaller bike makes me kinda sad. I think you guys should create content in a more objective manner. Maybe this channel is more for American audience idk. To me riding is never just about how fast you can go from point a to b. Just enjoy whatever you know, and don't judge.
Its very obvious that this channel is for the American audience they live in America.. you’re just way to sensitive maybe you should stay off the internet
One of my first choices of a starter bike was a dual sport but I got a supermoto
Thanks, guys, for another great video. If you think the GSX250 is a dog, I'd like you to take a look at the specs on the single cylinder 2017 Suzuki ST250. It doesn't reach 20 in torque or hp, but only weighs 285lbs.
Since Yamaha discontinued the WR250R for 2021, I really have no idea what their plans are with respect to dual-sports. But given that Honda and Kawi just came out with new 300s, if Yamaha came out with a WR350R in 2022, with weight only slightly more than the 250, but yet more power still -- they'd rule the world!! And then also IMO, for 2022 Honda should renew the XR650L, update it with a newer, more powerful water-cooled engine with fuel injection, & other improvements so that it could compete with Yamaha's T7!
Actually my first bike was a Ninja 250 2008. I got a friend who started on a MV Agusta Brutale 910S. One day we jokeingly switched bikes, and I discovered that all the time passed on the little ninja allowed me to understand perfectly how the 1000cc, 139cv, 98nm of torque worked and how to push it a little bit, way better than my friend. Now anfter a couple of other bike I own a FZ8 Fazer, great sport traver bike, but still, the ergo on the lil' ninja is something i miss...
Hey Yam, I gotta agree with you on this one. I live in India, a place where the average bike's displacement doesn't exceed 150cc. In such an environment, the average person considers even a 200 to 250cc bike as a sporty one. Anyway, I've been following your channel for over a year now, and I gotta say, your videos really helped me pick the right bike out. I was waiting for the Husky 401 twins to come out here, but the KTM fam decided to make the first husky entry into the market with the 250cc versions of the same. I gotta say, I've had the best of times on my Vitpilen 250, even though its hardly run 700kms. Read up guys, size doesn't matter, especially in a place where you can't use the full potential of a bike.
Exactly, having lot of fun on my svartpilen 250 , on Indian roads a 250 is more than enough
Wanted a CRF300L so I could do both but couldn't find one, ended up with a 450L and love it.
Can't reccomend getting a dual sport enough. 5' 11, 155 lbs and I got a drz400 as my first street bike. 2300 miles in my first 3 months mostly as my daily to work and it makes such a nice commuter put some better off road tires on it before you hit gravel though. They don't call those things death wings for nothing. If you are considering a dual sport I highly reccomend any of the big 4 for sure. Get a 250/300 if you haven't ridden anything before!
buying a GSXR 250 form my buddy at a dealer literally just because they were selling it for $1300 with plates. Planning on only keeping it through the summer and buying a T7 in the winter lol.
I ride a duke 125 and when I ride with my father who rides a Harley Davidson sportster 1200 (usually a duke 690 but its front brake is broken) then I really have to try to keep up with him on the straights when he is not even on half throttle. Thankfully there is a twisty road on our way home where I can pull on him.
If you ever come to the UK you should borrow my GSX-R125 and see how it compares, I'd love to see what you think
Hell yes some love for the dual sport boys. If you think that is fun try a 350 or a 450!
I wanna see them try a 50cc cross. Just for good mesaure i am dailying one, and not in the city.
About beginner bikes. My first was a 1200 sportster... About 2 year's after i started my sister had a friend with a 250cc enduro. I couldn't ride it after about a half hour of starting and killing it i gave up felt stupid left with my tail between my legs. I have ridden a busa owned a softail and a yamaha vmax. And half to say only thing I'm really scared of is those small displacement bikes i literally can't get it moving i just kill it cause they don't make enough tourqe to not choke
lol You guys were really harsh on that GSX250R! But, it's nice to hear the truth. (I've never actually ridden that bike) I do, however, own a WR250R, and couldn't agree more that it's a really fun bike. To me, it pulls strongly in the lower gears, and I'm 265 lbs. I also have a 30 inch inseam, yet with the sag due to my weight I can easily touch the ground well with no problem. I am an experienced rider that came back to motorcycling after 27 years away. I chose a dual-sport because it best matched the type of riding I'll do. I chose the WR because it's a kick-ass bike for a 250 and it will give me plenty of fun! Plus, Yamaha is known for reliable bikes and that's also important to me.
I own a Honda 250r and I love riding around the city just enough speed to overtake ppl
People:small dispasement bikes are too slow...(me laughing in my 1986 2t Yamaha DT200r 37f street legal dual sport) xD
Is there footage of you looping the bike ?
America doesn’t get the wr anymore??
In Australia we get them and the cooler version which is just the motocross bike with a headlight so can be road registered
Can you please do a video review on the new 2022 grom
I just ordered a rps hawk 250 dual sport. I just hope its something i can learn good throttle control with considering its gears very low
If you're really worried about the seat height, I believe Yamaha makes an XT 250 dual sport with a bit lower spec but much lower seat height as well. It's on my long-term radar as a second bike for sure.
Yam can we get a video that covers the rumors about going "dark side" ( car tires because they 'last longer' ) on the rear wheel? Handling, performance, cost and practicality??
Just dont
i have a WR 250X, ive hit 96mph on it. Amazing bike, 100% recommend for a first bike. It's super fun to ride and can keep up with a DRZ400 .
You need to do more craigslist follies. Alot more entertaining.
I envy the american straight,long roads....we only have at most 300 meters of straight roads with shitty construction and then a curve
That's only about 3/16 of a mile. Where do you live? That sounds pretty crappy but hopefully you have some good things.
I'm more surprised they're saying nice things about the Ninja 400
They've said alot of nice things about it. Lol
Good thing is I payed 2499 brand new for it and traded in for 2450. I think it's ironic this video comes up the same week I literally purchased a speed triple lol. Even tho y'all will never know what it's like to have a gsx250r for a first bike. That thing was great. And my heart hurts trading her like that but it's for the greater good
150 kph is enough for every highway in europe except autobahn. Price of the bike is the real problem 4.5K euros for 25hp seems a bit too much.
American GSX250r version: Parallel-twin engine
Asia/Pacific GSX250r version: Single-cylinder engine
I hope Yamaha come out with the 300cc WR and offer a lowering kit (XT250 seat high). And they should not go with fly by wire like the CRF300l. They should also make the bike around 250 lbs and have the way to add weight to the bike when people hit the highway. 5 gals of H2O is a lot of weight and can be in filled or drained as the rider go on trail or on the highway. This is not rocket science. The only reason they have more weight than dirt bike is for the stability of high speed on highway. Make some tubes and just add water. If one of the company did it they will all do it. Maybe Yammienood can build one.
This helped, thank you 🙏
Still gotta love my grom
The old adage; you get what you pay for. Huge price difference between those two bikes regardless of bike style.
Ride my 70's 125 around the neighborhood quite frequently. Top speed of 50ish mph. Maybe 9hp on a good day. I like going full throttle so it's not so bad. I have other bikes for other things, but a slow bike isn't that bad.
Love WRs.
The WR450F (supermoto) is exponentially more fun than my MV.
wide ratio! Freaking love mine. Good bike to learn how to wheelie on. Easier than my ninja 400 at least xD
America the country where the likes of Ninja 400s are considered beginner bikes. Where I am from, 125 cc are considered beginner and owning a 400 cc is the endgame for most motorcycle enthisiasts
Where are you from my friend? The middle east or India perhaps? Maybe you could consider moving to America. I don't know if you've ever been here but it's not really like you see on the news.
I have to theorize the only reasons people buy the GSXR250 have to be a combination of price, ignorance of the competition, and looks. Hell, most people are pretty vain when it comes to cars and bikes and I just have to believe they either aren't aware of the R3/N400 or like the looks of it so much they take it over something objectively better. At least it's reliable, but that's not exactly rare with the Japanese bikes.
It's not hard to lower wr250r.... just adjustments. I bought crf250l cause everyone said the wr is tall. My cousin got a wr and I could flat foot it. I'm 5'6"
My boy has been riding dirt bikes competitively since he was 6yrs old, but now that he is turning 14 an can get his mc license to ride to school he wants a street bike, but at 14 your only allowed 300cc max. If the gsxr 250cc is bad what is a good alternative. Keep in mind he is 6'1" 205lbs and rides a rm-z450 on the track.
A cbr250r is faster ,less heavy and cheaper on the used market.
I am 16 and just baught one after years of dirt and i had no complain so far
The GSXR 250 looks good - but in the U.K. market is pointless. It falls in to the A2 category of license so no one buys them as you can have a Ninja 400 or CBR 500 R “off the shelf” without restriction. Even the Suzuki dealer told me the 125cc is a better option.
Suzuki don’t seem to have their act together at all unless you want a 125cc or a 1000cc bike. The middle ground is a wasteland for them. They need to launch a Euro 5 complaint Gixxer 600 which can compete
If you put a 6foot plus blimp on most small bikes it will be slow, when you use a bike to commute in city a lower cc make makes sence good fuel economy cheap to buy
I would like to make a plea for the 250cc sportbikes of the past. There are a bunch of true sport bikes from the 90s with properly good suspension and committed ergos, such as the Kawasaki ZXR250R. Even though it's only 249cc, it makes about 45hp and goes to eighteen motherfucking thousand RPM. These things sound unbelievable. And remember they're inline 4 cylinders as well so they sound properly great, especially with that ridiculous redline. Plus they only weigh like 140kg (310lbs.) Yes they're carburetted and yes they're a damn pain in the arse to find (and I imagine they're even harder to find in the US) but they're bloody awesome. And there's also the 2 stroke sport bikes from the 90s too. Stuff like the Aprilia RS250 which had 55hp from a 249cc engine and only weighs 140kg. Yes again they're carburetted and this time they're two stroke so they're even harder to keep running right, plus the same issue of actually obtaining such a bike. But once again, they're bloody awesome. Bikes are not defined by their engine capacity, they're defined by their abilities. (BTW I don't think either of these bikes are good beginner bikes but they're at least doable if you're willing to put up with the sacrifices in convenience and they're some of the most fun bikes that exist, regardless of engine size.)
I feel more and more shitty watching this lol makes me drink literally
I'm a new rider and I got the svartpilen 250 (401 is not available yet in india) and I think 250 is a great starting point
I will probably get the RC 490 when it launches, going from 30 bhp to about 60 seems like a good progression to make
You gotta take everything they say with a grain of american salt. Where I live most people start o 125cc bikes (about 15 HP), as you can have them without motorcycle license.
@@rookpl7877 yeah dude these americans think that starting on anything less than 600 is good which tbh is not. in my opinion anything under 300 is a good starting point.
@@rookpl7877 yeah that's so true
They literally made a video calling the triple cylinder 660cc Triumph Trident a "perfect commuter" 😂
In my country a commuter is a 100-150cc honda or yamaha
The trident would literally be my dream bike to own
@@suvrosarkar4419yeah exactly my rtr 200 4v is more than enough on highways 😂😂
My wife has a ninja 2011 ninja 250 thats what she wanted because she's barely over 5 ft it's perfect for her I like it too because of its look when we purchased it I had to ride it home a 2 hour road trip and that thing rides really good and does over 90 with no problems with handling or passing traffic I would rethink some 250 sport bikes not all are as garbage as that gsxr 250 and I own a Suzuki but really thinking of switching because they have way too many issues
i have a blast on my 2017 ninja 300. its fun in town.
Spite...kinda feeling a little sad :( I grew up in south Africa and at age 16 we could get a license to ride a 50cc...a 250 back then was a rocket!
Honda CRF300L (rally) vs Yamaha WR250 please comparison 😁
Put the Ninja 400 engine into the GSXR 250, drop the weight and it would be perfect. GSXR 250 looks better than all the sport bike under 500 cc.
My 2016 passion red ninja 300 looks awesome.
Rc390
Or, just get a Ninja 400...
in india highway speed is 60km to 100km so basically even 125 cc bike can easily ride on the highway
It’s all by location. 250cc’s is by no means bad at all. Here in the states I ride a CBR600RR but in Vietnam I ride a CBR250RR, and I’ll tell you, that baby is a MONSTER. I usually end up lightly tapping the rear wheel of people in front of me, due to the limited distances between riders. 🤷♂️
Y’all need to grab the Klx300sm, and give us a synopsis!
I live in the US and I started on a 1971 SL 125....I would have loved to have a GSXR 250
Genuine question, is the GW250 any better than the GSX250R?