Blue Murder Bassist Talks John Sykes, the Breakup & Whitesnake
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- Tony talks about working with guitarist / vocalist John Sykes
& the reasons behind the disbanding of Blue Murder's classic lineup.
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Blue Murder and Badlands are 2 bands that should have had massive careers. The 2 most under appreciated bands from that era in my opinion
AMEN ! My thoughts exactly !
Both bands were eaten by grunge
There were no big hits off either debut. The musicianship was there. The songs were not.
John Sykes is such a criminally underrated player
He is one of the most overlooked guitarists of the 80's and 90's
Troy Tennard by whom? Every guitar player knows exactly who he is and what he's done and his influence.
Disagree. There's a ton of respect for Skyes by those like me who lived through the 80's and who appreciate monster guitar playing. He's not a household name because of the reasons that Tony Franklin has just outlined here. Bad luck, poor promo and mental health issues.
Gordon Heaney Guitarologist and Flatulist No doubt man. I’m 50 years old so I grew up in the late 70s and 80s. Sykes was absolutely a monster. Being a guitarist/singer and creative type myself I can understand his struggles. It’s hard to put your heart and should into something and have it not turn out the way you wanted. Or to be fired from a band where you made major contributions. At least he got song writing credits on the Whitesnake album. He def got some money out of that.
Hoogla Boogla unfortunately they don’t.
John Sykes f..cking guitar tone was huge and thick!
All i know is John and tony and carmine was part of the best first album ever
The first Blue Murder album is a masterpiece
That first Blue Murder album is insane. So damn good. I still listen to it often. Not a bad song on it. John is just so good at what he does.
John Sykes - Bad Boy Live. Freaking great album. Sykes at his best. Well worth a listen.
Coverdale Sykes was such a great blend of the two most talented people. Such a shame they couldn't make it work past 87.
@@ROOKTABULA and not being able to get Sykes out of his house for 12 yrs.
Coverdale fucked him over. Like many guitarists he was just a casualty.
Saw Blue Murder open for Bon Jovi- slippery when wet tour -didn’t know they where the opener- told the girl who bought the ticket- I’m going to the front to watch John Sykes- are you going with me!!Was so good -
I was at the Dallas show. Killer!
Listen to Thin Lizzy’s Thunder and Lightning album. Some great playing from Sykes on that also!!
The first Blue Murder I walked into a record store and they were playing the album through store speakers, I was digging through the cd’s and couldn’t find anything I wanted and nothing sounded as good as what I was hearing playing through the store speakers, I asked “who is that playing?” The guy told me “Blue Murder.” I walked out of that store with the cd and Blue Murder got a new fan, I caught them in concerts few months later in Houston at Cardis.
The Blue Murder album was a vastly better “sequel” to the Whitesnake album than the actual follow up which was “Slip of the Tongue.”
I wish I could give this comment a million thumbs up!!!!
Thinking about Sykes' career makes me sad man.
I wish john, tony and carmine would just go out on their own with a grassroots approach, but it would be impossible.
Once you've been on top, it's damn near impossible to go back to square one.
It's probably why we like "The Underdog" type stories so much.
In my opinion, Slip of the Tongue was a good hard rock album but it wasn't really Whitesnake. You can't replace the entire band and expect to keep the same sound, identity, and energy of the previous band.
Chris Cosentino i completely agree.
I disagree. The BM songs are not great. They are great technically but have not touched me the same as the WS stuff.
There was a moment when MTV had to choose between a new Blue Murder video or AIC Man in the Box to premiere.
I'm s bass player 30+ years, Tony Franklin is a fretless bass legend and he's spot on, 'nothing but trouble' is a brilliant album, John Sykes is the most under rated guitarist/singer/song writer of that era! Better than Vivian Campbell and Adrian Vandenberg combined!!
I’m sure that a lot of young guitarist don’t get it.. but John Sykes was and is a force to be reckoned with a top guitar player no matter what genre you come from and he gets no recognition and I don’t know why he dropped off the map.. maybe that white neck record gave him enough money to where he doesn’t need to work.. I hope that is the case.. but I would sure like to hear him play again, and I know that there are millions of other people just like me. They would love to hear him be the guitar player or singer in a trio or a four piece. He’s one of the best to ever do it I don’t see why he’s not out there doing it whatever he does I’m going to buy it
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I still love the first Blue Murder album. Such great songs and amazing riffs. Imagine if we could get a new Blue Murder album like that.
Tony is a Favorite !!
That's an understatement! Because I remember when they came out, and you could tell they were gonna be untouchable! They definitely should have been huge.
Incredible band...
Keep on keeping on full in Bloom guy!!! Your the best interviewer!!!!!!💜🌹you let the artist do the talking and you also have a great voice to do this
I love his work in the firm as well. Strong playing style that you don't see any more. Thanks Tony
The first album was categorically brilliant
Sykes has always been his own worst enemy. 😐
I'd have to disagree with Tony's statement that Blue Murder should have been the biggest band in the world with the release of the first album. That is an incredible album but the music (and bad timing) was more of a problem than anything. I've been a studio/session musician, mostly rock and metal, for over 30 years and one thing is undeniable about music. The music has to be marketable to the masses. Even Metallica was nothing outside the metal scene until they started putting out radio-friendly songs and "toning it down" to some extent. The problems with the Blue Murder album were two-fold. First, it was far too experimental for most "average" listeners. There were all kinds of songs inspired by middle eastern modes and scales patterns, there were (very) long songs about Egypt and war and so on, there were very few songs about partying and fun and love and everything the mass public likes in popular music. It wasn't even consistent. You have "Valley of the Kings" followed by "Jelly Roll" and later on "Ptolemy"? It sounded like leftovers from two, or even three, different albums that had been stuck together. I love the album but it must have been a nightmare for producers and the PR people at the label. Second problem? It was released in April of 1989. Hair metal, thrash metal, hell almost every kind of hard rock and heavy metal was about to go comatose. Within months everyone seemed to be listening to Nirvana, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains and so on. Hell, Blue Murder was released just two years before Pearl Jam's "Ten"! An album that basically defined the entire decade. The band, and album, just never really had a chance. Of course this is just my two pennies and... what the f*ck do I know? Stay safe everyone.
You know more than most and state it reasonably. ✌
Within months of April 89 everyone was listening to Nirvana, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains? No disrespect, but that's nonsense. Grunge didn't kick in till 91 and even then it took a few years to reach its zenith.
Its because the music Industry (and the powers that be) define what is popular (or unpopular) and the sheep (people, myself included) follow trends!
As I've gotten older, I like what I like and could care less about trends. :-)
This is a great interview. :-)
So well said M McBride...so true what you said about the songs being very long and not fun..its fun songs that make you want to listen and be happy..greeting from Ireland!
That's just like your opinion, man.
i think Coverdale was jealous
I just recently got the remastered version of Blue Murder's debut album a few months ago and it sounds better than ever. A label called Rock Candy released it a few years ago and released many other albums that were long overdue for remastering. In my opinion the debut Blue Murder album is more of a Whitesnake album than Whitesnake's Slip Of The Tongue album is. I will never understand why David Coverdale ever fired John Sykes. That 1987 Whitesnake album is still one of my favorite albums of all time. In my opinion John Sykes songwriting and guitar playing are the most important ingredients as to why that album is so Phenomenal. Over thirty years later John Sykes and David Coverdale are still on bad terms. It would have been awesome if they could have done one more album together and one more tour.
Coverdale fired the whole band!
@@raymondlugo9960 oh poor baby. It only sold 30 million worldwide. I wonder if he ever recouped his losses?
@@raymondlugo9960 hmmm I heard John got fired from Lizzy after not showing up for two important dates. It seems like he can't work with people for very long lol. The only fellow musician he praises working for is Phil Lynott and that just lasted for a little over a year. As just so happens really talented guys like John are hard to work with. If Blue Murder were ever to reform John would have to pay Tony and Carmine out of his own pocket and I don't think he's willing to do that because they may have a higher rate than some random musicians he can take out on a solo tour. He should have put out at least six albums since his last.
@@raymondlugo9960 those "recent" interviews were done over a year ago
@@thefonzkiss I heard that too and that was a really really dumb request especially since Coverdale was the founder and "face" of Whitesnake
I have this album its still awesome
Love these interviews 🤘🏻
John did a lot for both Whitesnake and Thin Lizzy and I don't believe he's "underrated" at all, he's just had some tough breaks so it's understandable about his depression and apparently John lives to speak his truth so good on him.
I'm a huge Sykes fan, have always been and will always be - There's no doubt my style got a lot from Sykes approach - Even though I'm a synth guy I also did my guitars when making tracks :)
Strong Band,
If you ask me, I think Out Of Love should've been the single for the album. It had everything to be a commercial success (there were lots of succesful ballads on 89 so Out Of Love would've also been an anthem from my perspective. They would have sold way more than they did. And of course doing a promotional video for it. Even tho I love Jelly Roll, it doesnt sound like something that would play on the radio 24/7. If I had to add just one more single along VOTK and Out Of Love, it would probably be Billy. There you had three succesful songs imo. Maybe Billy would have been the least popular but would surely make the band sold more records.
What happened to John is pretty close to having a winning lottery ticket for 1 million bucks and then losing it or running it through the washing machine. It would eatcha alive. Doesn't help being Irish. We are brooders. As far as Blue Murder, John and the band were 2 years too late. The hair metal thing was winding down. The same happened the Danger Danger. They too were the pinnacle of that 80's era rock metal but just missed the train. My buddy and I had a rock band and in 1990 he went out to L.A. with 5 grand for a few weeks to scope out the scene with a demo tape. The people he spoke with said, its over. One guy said, I could be a dirtbag and take ya money, and many will, the best thing you could do is get back on the plane and go home. It's really over. My buddy got back and said, that was the most depressing thing I ever experienced. It reminded me of going to a wake/funeral. Ha
No. It came out in 1989. It was " TOO CLOSE TO THE GRUNGE LIFTOFF, no matter how good it was.
I liked this Album a lot. I saw the show at Summers On The Beach. It should have been performed at Hollywood Sportotorium. 15 thousand seater and not a 1,500 capacity venue. Great music. The White Snake thing would have changed John's life trajectory. He's in no soup kitchen line. Lol
John is a cousin of a drummer I knew from Reading Berkshire Uk
thought Adrien Vandenberg was always Whitesnakes guitarist, did not know John Sykes was the masterful guitar player of their 1986 album and writer of some the big hits of that album,
completely agree on Malmsteem being a prodigy but not a good song writer, Sykes is better than other under rated guitarists
Malmsteen was a great writer....for about 2 albums.
@Smith Hart by the time Whitesnake became big Vandenberg was the lead guitarist, no way to know he didn't composed the music,
no one read cd covers back then, same with Marcello replacing, Norum on Europe
That's what Coverdale wanted EVERYBODY to think... Disgusting way he behaved,to discredit his band....
@@TheMetalVagabond yeah thats right but at least Norum made it on the TFC video.
You didn't know Sykes played for Whitesnake damn dude what rock were you hiding under!?!? (kidding) Really though, everyone knows that. And Malmsteen is a pretentious prick good songwriter or not.
Jellyroll should have been released first. It's much more accessible than Valley Of The Kings. Regardless, within a couple years they'd have fallen out of favor even if they had been successful. Sykes, for seeming a bit cocky in his earlier days seems to have lost all confidence in himself. I know there's still an audience out there for him, myself included. Hell, if he'd put out something and market it himself I would buy a copy.
Your wish has been granted!
Both songs shouldn't have been singles. Out of love and billy should had been the singles and maybe black hearted women.
I think it's a difficult thing to accept. They needed a dedicated vocalist and lyricist. John was fine. Certainly nothing wrong with his voice. Great range and pitch. I think since Hendrix guitarists have said, "Well, Hendrix did it." But Hendrix was a poet. In Ptolemy and Valley I detect a bit of Dio influence. To me Dio and Coverdale are completely different. So it's a little confusing to have Jelly Roll playing against Valley. They definitely had enough MTV exposure. It was the same as Whitesnake. Nevertheless it's some great music. It's not like it disappeared completely. Two really great albums. Some excellent playing on there. Pure Sykes with an amazing rhythm section. Check out the bass playing on Riot. Fretless. Sounds like Jaco in a hard rock band or something. Actually it sounds like Tony Franklin haha.
Coverdale hires Sykes clones these days.
Someone tell me why Sykes never became hugely succesful after Whitesnake. Because everybody thinks Sykes was an immensely talented guitarist and song writer. I really do not understand
@@rhaastaa I asked an honest question. I was just wondering
Probably had more to do with the business end of things. Sounds like he was frustrated with the label, management, and the entire industry and just gave up.
Depression. The business, the non-approval just crushed him. If he’d have persevered he would’ve eventually overcame. I wish he was out there.
@@marcrussell54 Would have. Should have. Could have. I wish John did what everybody, including me, wished for. Being huge and being a genious during a long and succesful career.
So many bands get lost in the tidal wave of changing tastes or label shakeups and buyouts. Sad when these bands only have one shot to be heard in many cases.
Many sensations with blue murder in first that name...
I think Blue Murder was a day late and a dollar short. Maybe if they started earlier like 85 they may have been a lot bigger than they ended up.
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MTV played Jelly Roll quite a bit. I remember seeing it quite often...
Problem was it was 1989 about the time Nirvana came out and fked up music forever, bands today are still afraid to be polished because of grundge, fking hate it!!
@@badmonkey2222 Nirvana didn't have any airplay until Nevermind came out in 1991. In 1989, Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, Winger, Skid Row, GnR, and Warrant had albums in the top 30 for sales for the year.
@@kitoyobeni1 Nirvana formed in 87 and Bleach was released in 89 and absolutely had college station airplay before 91, there was rumblings of grunge at that time and those of us in the business could feel something coming, bands like the Pixies , Live and Toad the Wet Sprocket were becoming popular. And i said 89 was ABOUT the time the business started changing it was basically the last gasp of bands like you mentioned. And believe me I know I've been in the business over 30 years.
@@badmonkey2222 Bleach had no impact on the general public until after Nevermind. It didn't chart on the initial release and only hit #89 upon re-releaee in 1992. Critics liked it though.
@@kitoyobeni1 those of us who were out there in the trenches could feel a paradigm shift around 89, I was touring with a band and we saw the types of bands that were being booked change, it was harder for bands like us even to get a gig. Promoters and producers that I knew said that they were getting a lot more punk style and alternative bands pushed on them and coming into their studios pushed by their labels and college radio was saturated with it. From 89 and 91 is when it all changed it didn't happen overnight, Alice in Chains release Facelift in 1990 which is really the start of it all breaking into the corporate realm, and the thing is, they're not really grunge, i don't know how they got lumped into that because they're basically straight up metal.
I agree the Too Late Demo is Really Good with Ray Gillen on Vox . Damn wish we had more . Really different for both of their styles. Cozy added a different feel to the mix. Badlands needed a solid producer like what Trevor Rabin did with John Anderson, Trevor would get the absolute very best out of Andersons melodies by pinning him down to take the very best ideas and getting them arranged onto tape. Always Felt Ray was a solid producer away from having that hit album just so much raw talent .
Yeah I've seen that...
They were a good band, but I never saw anything about them that stood out anymore than a lot of the other 80’s bands. Many great bands during this time, but unfortunately a lot never got too far.
John's BM material was not nearly as good as his work with Whitesnake and Lizzy. There's always a lot of chat about Jellyroll and Valley of the Kings but they're nowhere near the class of Still of the Night, Thunder and Lightning, Cold Sweat, etc.
Out of love has one of the best solos to be recorded
John liked his time with Thin Lizzy best.
Bollocks
Disagree. The magic is there, his choice of singles just sucked ass. Out of love and billy or maybe riot should have been singles. Jelly roll is way too experimental and sounds like a b side 🤣🤣🤣.
MTV is the worst thing to ever happen to music.
true, but only for some bands.
iblockpuncheswithmyface I discovered Blue Murder from watching MTV.
I respectfully disagree, lots of bands got their breaks because of MTV. In Phil Collen's autobiography, getting the "Photograph" music video on MTV really boosted Def Leppard to stardom. Same goes for other bands. Headbanger's Ball also boosted lots of metal and hard rock bands (Death, Morbid Angel, etc.).
Valley of the kings is a clever reworking of Still of the night. There are similarities in the chord sequences and song structure and When I noticed that, I knew Sykes wrote that music.
Not even close to being a rework of Still of the Night. Two separate tempos, two separate chord structures equals two different songs all together. I knew Valley opf the Kings was Sykes because of his tone and his distortion used, not because it was a "clever" reworking-which it is not.
Let us see what grunge brought to the world?No talent and how to use bad drugs and not be able to take a shower.What a fucking joke.I was in my early 20's.Had seen the best bands and guitarist People had a chance to stop it instead.They brought into it.I and many other's didn't.
James Render When I first heard Nirvana on the radio, I laughed my ass off and thought “No one is gonna listen to this crap! Other than the drums, they can’t play guitar, they can’t sing worth a shit. What is this radio station thinking?” I literally thought it was a goof or some shitty local band they were trying to push. But, as the old saying goes....Never underestimate the stupidity of the sheeple. Those that are easily brainwashed to like what radio tells them to like.
Savage Tarot “The bands you liked were corporate over produced womanizing bullshit”. You have no idea what bands I liked. The bands I liked and artists I liked had the ability to combine heart with actual technical talent. Unlike Nirvana. As far as “corporate, over produced” goes, you just described the entire grunge movement as well. How many fake bands came out at the time that followed (like sheeple) the whole grunge formula to sell records for their record companies? Just as many as the hair bands and glam bands and the like. Those bands burned themselves out in the same way grunge did. Two peas in a pod. Remember at the height of the grunge movement where flannel shirts that you could buy all tattered looking brand new for 200 bucks? I do. Corporate bullshit. My point stands, true grunge bands sucked balls. The only band that came out of that era that I dug was AIC. Now they were heart and technical ability. So.....try again son.
Grunge, slack a-- music
@@TheAxe4Ever TRUE WORDS BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!
@@TheAxe4Ever I thing Sound Garden was a great band
Ray Gillen would have made it huge. But Sykes sings great.
Check out Too Late the sing with Ray. You can find it here on TH-cam.
This was interesting and informative, but with some wistfulness I have to say that those times are long gone and as much as I like to visit the past, I have to move on. Can you say old rock and roller?
What!?? Can you say you're no rock n roller!! For one, today's music sucks balls, people hardly play their instruments anymore or covered with fake vocals and samples when they play live, and the whole point of this station is interviews from bands producers and musicians that time. Go bang your head to your Bieber sounds like that's more you're speed.
Says the hypocrite saying he wants to share his life's insights... You must be deaf dumb and blind.
I would have thought the logical single to put forth would have been Black-Hearted Woman because it was so similar to Whitesnake and that would have been the hook for fans. Even if that was not their choice but just strategically to sort of stick with the Whitesnake theme.
2020. Sykes is still not releasing anything. Nothing. Nada.
Yes, read he was aiming to do so 2019 but something went wrong with (an Australian?) record company.
The business scene has changed, maybe he should quit doing old school and produce&release indie without pre-expectations.
Is he trying to reach for the moon or what are the fundamental problems? Maybe he's very/too comfy without releasing anything and just remembering his career zenith.
Could look at Radiohead or something: "Radiohead's post EMI releases have pioneered alternative release platforms such as pay-what-you-want and BitTorrent; Radiohead self-released their seventh album as a download for which customers could set their own price, to critical and chart success."
I buy way more from places like Bandcamp where it's not over priced and one can repeatedly listen to it to make a descision on buying.
@@haliaeetus8221 good thoughts for food. It's hard out there. Coming back in these will make things harder. And it means tons of work.
@@haliaeetus8221 damn straight. Thanks for sharing your insights. Much appreciated.
Youre welcone Daniel
Bigger than "Appetite för destruction" .?
G&R, Flash in the pan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Appetite is overrated. Only couple of songs, sweet child of mine included and riffs and fills made by Izzy for Axl to howl like a banshee. Most overrated album in my opinion. Company of Wolves is what I expected GNR to sound when I bought the album, boy was I wrong.
Nirvana sucks and they ruined rock music. Even to this day bands are afraid to be polished
Metal had run it's course back then, now new good material to keep things going
You say that,& your half right.
It was the rock & metal fans that bought all that grunge shite,& abandoned the metal/heavy rock & AOR acts,in the process.That killed off the bands.It was the fans that did it....
@@verminfawlty-arat.5650 I don't really consider Nirvana Grudge. I feel lie kthey are just garage rock. I know they get the credit but Soundgarden an AIC started the Grunge thing and also Temple of the Dog and PJ. Chris Cornell is the father of Grunge
The reality is grunge didn't last very long. By 1994 even Pearl Jam was in a decline. They attacked alot of what people loved about rock and the media joined in. F--K grunge.
Nirvana is boo boo music!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kids couldnt relate to it ....
Anyone that watched MTV heard jelly. It just had the wrong vibe for then. Franklin should be lucky he played with The Firm. Just killer songs
Lucky huh?? SMH
I get depressed because I'm not rich
I like Yngwie's songwriting better than his playing. I think this dude must not have heard the first 5 or so Yngwie albums.
This dude did. I even saw him on the Marching Out tour, just not my gig when it comes to the songwriting w/ vocals...love his instrumentals, though. But I respect your appreciation for it.
To me the Eclipse album is an 8 or 9 out of 10. Odyssey would be even better if the production weren't so tinny. I think Yngwie's songwriting is underrated and his playing overrated (he's a technical monster, but if you've heard one of his solos, you've heard them all).
Been binge-watching your interviews over the past few days, by the way!
@@MrMatthiasSchneider Eclipse is surely a 9. Would even get a 9.5 if the sound mix (micings?) was a bit better. It's a really strong album from the viewpoint of songs and arrangements. His playing is really tasty on it and not full on self-indulgent as on some others.
Yngwie is a master of heavy riffs , its crazy that some people choose to ignore that
I actually love the majority of Yngwie Malmsteen's catalog. All his solo albums from the 80's, 90's, and a few from the 2000's. The only albums that I don't care for are the ones that he does the lead singing. Yngwie had such phenomenal singers throughout his career, and one day decides that he himself will be the lead singer. I wish that he would make one studio album with all his former lead singers. Jeff Scott Soto, Mark Boals, Joe Lynn Turner, Goran Edman, Michael Viscera, Mats Leven, Doogie White, and Tim Owens all on one album would be awesome.
I think the style of the band was bad. The clothes were awful. Blue Murder looked like Kajagoogoo. That's what turned me off. I hated Nirvana and the Seatle scene, but ya'll looked uncool.
It was 80s what do you expect, I think it was more they're music that just wasn't viable enough for that time to a wide enough audience to sell millions of records.
They genuinely seem like they swap between Spinal tap and Van Halens wardrobe , occasionally verging on a camp version of Motörhead three amigos era look .
Baffling wardrobe choices even for the era hahha
I'm sorry but he say that MTV wouldn't touch Jelly Roll? I got sick of that song 'cause it was over-played on MTV.
Valley of the Kings played all of the time. I never saw Jelly Roll myself.
What MTV were you watching? Never seen jellyroll on it .. Valley of the Kings got a little air play though.
@@trance9158 Headbanger's Ball with Adam Curry back in '89
I remember a froend saw him walking down London's Oxford street dressed in the cliched tighter leather trouses and teased hair with a massive bodyguard. I mean, no offence, but the majority of people would have no idea who he is, he's hardly a household name. My mate thought it was hilarious.
Sykes , Franklin or Applesauce ?
What year was this?
You must live in an empty household.
It's Nirvana, they are responsible. Bands which got F'ed, are bands like White Sister, Signal, Fortune,Strangeways... they are who got screwed.
Neither Blue Murder nor Badlands had any real hits. It was disappointing. John Sykes and Jake E Lee were two of my favorite guitarists. The musicianship was there. The songs were not. Both lead singles for both bands were disappointing. Valley of the Kings was a boring track to be a lead single. If anything, Riot should have been the first single, followed by Jelly Roll.
Beg to differ.....that first Badlands was nothing but great tunes with NO filler.
You're tone deaf... WTF
Blue who?
Stick to your tide pods
John Sykes, Mr. Two Face. "Don't do anything else until my head is straight", says the guy who tried to take over Whitesnake because he didn't want to wait for Coverdale to heal from an actual health issue.
Where have you heard this?
Wrong. Diva Dave was so jealous of John. Matter of fact he booted the entire band after they recorded the album. Check out the revolving door of musicians in Whitesnake. Dave was the star. Anyone he felt threatened by,got the boot. John was far more talented than (still an insecure fat kid, in his own mind) Dave.
@@tangerinerose3724 John is FAR more talented than Dave....
We're you there? Lol Shouldn't be recording if you have a bad enough health issue you hold everybody else up for MONTHS. Buy hey. Maybe Dave should have quit smoking.
I’m a fan of both Whitesnake and Sykes, but yes…John attempt to replace DC when DC was recovering from his vocal issues. Neil Murray has collaborated it and he was one of the members that were let go.
I think Blue Murder are very cheesy. And John Sykes is a great guitarist, and was responsible for all the great melodic solos of Whitesnake. Blue Murder took him back to just shredding...with just noise...John has the ability to do achingly good solos and i wish he would return to what he does best! 🙂
Dude you seriously did not listen to the whole of both albums . Jelly Roll is a classic song Sykes great singer songwriter period. Save My Love on the 2nd Album is every bit as good as Is This Love . Go Listen again Great Stuff ! Franklin is a monster on bass and Carmine great drumming as always and solid song arranger himself . Keep in mind who wrote Rod Stewarts biggest hit ..Carmine Appice !
You're tone deaf or have a lobotomy. Blue Murder is far from cheesy.
Sykes appearently got tricked out of white Snake he wrote the awesome songs on 1987 he's own band blue murders first album is pure Gold! And should have kicked the white Snake album down the charts! By a mile! But thanks to politics in the music business it went away ugly affair!
Its a total disgrace! By the record company and management! Blue Murder! Should have been huge! Wouldnt wonder if that coverdale had something to do with that, politics in music!
I think that they weren't successful because they were too cheesy. Whitesnake 87 had Still of the Night and Gimme All Your Love Tonight plus 2 old Whitesnake tracks. The rest is filler. Keith Olsen, John Kalodner and Tawny Kitaen sold the rest.
You're full of cheese... SMH