Vito Bratta on Why He Didn't Join KISS After Ace Frehley & the Ozzy Osbourne 'Audition' - 2023
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Vito is one of the best.
His playing is pristine and flawless.
I love his guitar work. He has his own tone and his lines were so fluid/flowing.
Doesn't matter..he blew his chances.
@@DoktorDamageHe left the business dumbass.
No wonder Vito does not come back or miss The Business
God Bless You Vito
I like Vito, but he’s not a saint. He was a dick to Bruno Ravel when he was in White Lion. A complete dick. But I don’t freak out about that, just like I don’t fault Gene for asking him to use a stage name. Most people do use stage names. It’s something to get upset about.
Nobody in KISS plays under their real name.
Never have.
Eugene Klein and Stanley Eisen….
Sharon Osborne is a total slime ball. She’s not worth the trouble. Randy was leaving the band as soon as his contract was up. He was simply fulfilling his obligation and then he was out. Vito got lucky on both of those accounts.
Wouldn't surprise me that Gene would pull some shit like that on White Lion having Ted Nugent open for Kiss and give White Lion the night off, because of years before what Gene said to Vito about changing his name being that Vitos name was too ethnic sounding and Vito's reply back to Gene and Paul was priceless 😂😂
Chaim Witz and Hyram Klein sound ethnic.
@@drivenmad7676
Exactly why they renamed themselves.
Gene has a point, in his case, a Jewish name is not good for business, look at how it is right now, it will get you death threats.
Vito Bratta has a ring to it... it's a fookin cool name. Sounds like a mean musicians name or guitar player..
It sounds like a mob boss, actually, lol.
Or a sports car! Rollin in my Vito Bratta 🚘 🕺🏾🕺🏾🤣
Yeah it's not a cool rock and roll name at all. KISS made it a point that their stage names would not be ethnic sounding. From Ace Frehley to Vito Bratta. Nope.
His name doesn't fit a rock name for KISS, that's for sure.
@@jimmyboy131 reminds me of Luka Brazi
Who really cares what gene Simmons says anyway
I mean, if you’re working for him or you WANT to work for him, yeah, you care.
Blackie lawless and jj french and van halen cared about what simmons said .
Do you mean Chaim Witz?
Pretty much everyone!
What a weird comment. I mean, it’s a story. Who cares what anybody says?
Great stories. Two of the biggest pains in the asses, Sharon and Gene!
By pain in the ass, do you mean able to elevate musicians to the next level?
@@jackkanoff6265100%
@@jackkanoff6265entertainers ,not musicians.🙄
Gebe and Paul thought the were so clever, trying to disguise their Jewish ethnicity - as if nobody knew! They pulled that "You're too ethnic BS" with JJ French (Segall) from Twisted Sister, when he tried out for KISS. I've heard that same story a few times actually. Sorry Gene and Paul, but the old Hollywood thing of "Think Yiddish, look British" only works when the Jewish kid doesn't look so obviously Jewish. Also, unless you're playing to Palestinians in Gaza, nobody cares that you're Jewish, aside from yourselves.
And yet JJ french listened to gene changed his name!
@@mooch514 Sad but true.
Very well stated. 👏 👍
But if you were around on the 70s, no one knew who kiss really was under the make up. They had to change their names to have the mystique.
@@mooch514 Very True. Entertainment was so different back then. No social media, etc. I kind of prefer the old days.
We need more music from Vito. His feel and tone is unmatched.
He was great on record
Go back and watch him live though.
Really watch and listen.
That talent didn't stay at his recording level..when he performed live.
As a performer he had no stage presence.
Incredible studio musician.
@@ZakEdwardsOfficialBullshit. He’s awesome during the Ritz show and he doesn’t need to jump around like an ass. Dumbass
Sounds like some dirty, underhanded shit that Gene would pull.
Two Jews tell an Italian he looks to ethnic? That's funny.
Vito dodged a bullet not doing the Ozzy thing. Sharon would have ripped him off like all the others.
Faster than anyone could have said "George Lynch"!
100%
Ted Nugent is awesome. I saw him open for KISSS and his 3 piece band blew the socks off of the place, and KISS.
Vito in OZZY would have been AWESOME!!!
He would have been perfect
He would have softened Ozzy’s sound. Nowhere near the right fit.
Listen to if my mind is evil would’ve been perfect
He should've told Paul and Gene that his new stage name in Kiss would be Bob Smith.
Vitto Epstein. Paul, and Gene would've had an orgasm.
That would've been the best reply, LOL!
Or, “Sorry, I’m just too shy, Shylock!”
At least we won't have to deal with KISS anymore. At least not until the next farewell tour..
Cmon Vito. Fake it til ya make it. He coulda felt his way through the songs well enough. Well the harpie and her pet rockstar wouldve cheated him just like Daisley and Kerslake and Jake E Lee and Phil Soussan and and and.
"This is NOT a Wango Tango crowd!" I can't wait to use that line at Walmart.
I'm glad we got White Lion instead
Kiss have ALL changed their names, what do ya expect VB??
Would you consider changing your parent's last name? What kind of submissive, sell out tactic is that?
@@heb430 how much $ we talking 'bout??
Even Bruce Kulick???
The mystique of kiss back then, no one knew their names and who they really were. Brilliant
"Gene Simmons" doesn't sound as "ethnic" as "Hiram Klein."
Paul Stanley: "We're proud to introduce our new lead guitarist, Vance St. Jones."
Vito should do an instrumental only album !
I’ll take whatever he wants to put out…
Yeah, but an acapella one.
I've always respected Vito. He's a very straight shooter. His solo on "Wait" is a masterpiece in composition. But regarding the Ozzy gig I have to be honest and say that Brad Gilles was absolutely amazing on "Speak of the Devil." Vito would have been great too but I guess we will never know.
As an Italian I totally get this guy. Respect.
Maybe the name Vito Bratta does sound ethnic, but so does Akira Takasaki, Yngwie Malmsteen, and Matthias Jabs. Any of those guys would have benefited the band.
He would’ve been great in Ozzy. Even Kiss.
Sharon and Ozzy have burned so many bridges with guitarists over the years.. I'm shocked that Zack has stayed on good terms with them..
Kiss is such a cheesy band, Glad Vito did White Lion and got to show us his real talent
Where is he now? Oh yea, in the bargain bin at Value Village ha ha ha ha
Vito would've shined with Ozzy. His style would've worked well. Kiss would've quelled him. Gene and Paul only want a guitarist who can play a 3 bar pentatonic solo.
He missed out on a chance to be paid a salary by Kiss of $500 week if he was lucky. I guess it might be good for his career later? Vitto was a very melodic, great player. Too bad he hurt his hand and can’t play anymore.
Well in another interview he stated, that he just started to play electric guitar again. He's hand is healing.
There are two kundts in this video, Sharon Rachel *Levy* Osbourne and Gene Where's-the-cash Simmons.
I REALLY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO RESPECT OR POSITIVITY FOR GENE SIMMONS....REALLY..DO NOT..HE LOVES HIMSELF ENOUGH AS IT IS..
Was a big Kiss fan until Gene Simons and Paul Stanly ruined the band .
Vito would have been a perfect replacement for Rhodes given his classical guitar roots.
with ozzy would have been cool better than 20 albums w/zakk wylde
The only name that sounds cooler than Vito Bratta is Eddie Van Halen.
That name sounds familiar.
I think it was taken.
Vito dodged a bullet. Sharon would've ripped him off, just like all the other guitarists.
Chaim Witz and Hiram Klein are two of Gene's names. Depends on the audience he's entertaining.
I don't understand why all these great guitar players ever considered playing in Kiss ? We've all heard the stories of even Eddie Van Halen considering joining Kiss. Kiss and Ozzy screwed all the greats it seems.
There was a time when KISS ruled the world.
VETO gets all my respect, he's standing up to some powerful people
Sharon and Ozzy - fired George Lynch. Made him cry.
Cried for joy. Sharon would have ruined his life. Like Jake E. Lee living in a mobile home in the desert.
@@seagullpoet They didn't "fire" George. George was never in the band. Tried in 1979 and Randy was chosen over him. Tried in '82, after Brad Gillis left, and Jake E. Lee was chosen over him. Never "fired." Maybe George felt "fired", but he was never in the band, thus never fired.
@sunjester8254 aaahhh the Spelling officer is out today and writing tickets!!
@@sunjester8254 your back crying about this? Wtf, get a hobby.
I know playing with Ozzy would have been the ticket to fame to every guitar player...but...the fact is that every guitar player who was called by Sharon Osbourne but who DID NOT end up playing with Ozzy got famous anyway, and ended up financially better than the guys who DID PLAY with Ozzy, now, that is not an assumption is the sad truth...In example Vitto Bratta, George Lynch, also I know for fact that Kiss paid peanuts to Bruce Kullick's incredible guitar work, the same would have happened to Vitto, so Vitto should never regret not playing with Ozzy, Vitto is one of my greatest guitar heros of all time...
@rfd73 : I read somewhere that Gary Moore was asked to play in Ozzy's new band before they got Randy. Moore declined the offer because he just formed G-Force....Funny thing is that Glenn Hughes was in G-Force at that time but got sacked because of his heroin addiction. Later on he would get fired from Black Sabbath as well.
You are right, Ozzy even made a proposal to Michael Schenker, who rejected the same, both Gary and Michael were pretty famous at that moment already, so I guess it wasn't very attractive for them@@Stefan-Van-der-Pulst
U 4 got Paul Gilbert N Buckethead. N Vito does not regret it only bc he ended up making it but what if White Lion never happened? He regret that 4 life.
@@Stefan-Van-der-Pulstwtf Glen Huhges? The Glen Hughes? The Deep Purple cat? We talking about the same cat,?
You are right, probably, but, like the say "If there is no risk, there is no reward", I think Vitto was willing to play all his coins in White Lion because of his self-confidence, he got to be famous, and way more financially better than he would with Kiss, just ask Bruce Kullick if he was ever well-paid for playing in Kiss, he played for peanuts@@265308
Vito did later play Ozzy/RR songs at shows, hands down best I have ever heard them since Randy. he would have smoked Brad Gillis & I think he was better than Jake E Lee as well
Sounds to me like his pompous attitude got him in the "where are they now" files.
Vito is in the "where are they now " file. How Spinal Tap. 😂
Yup...haha
I honestly think his band would have been better if they called themselves “Black Tiger”
Y&T had an album called that.
Gene and Paul constantly disparage Peter, Chris and Ace Frehley but their entire Setlist these days is 98% the songs that Peter and Ace played on so go figure… Paul acts like everyone else is stupid.. but he married I wanna be actress with no prenup and she took him for half of his money in the 90s…. Boy that was smart.
Brad learned Randy’s stuff in 24 hours, huge talent but was always just a temp situation.
Vito Bratta will never be forgotten . Clearly he Fulfilled his ultimate Fate . White Lion is the Best Thing that ever happened to him and the World that Listens to his / their Music . He is a Forever Guitar Hero because of that Band . His White Lion Song " When The Children Cry " is probably the most Relivant Song there is out there today , and it came out in 1987 . Ozzy and Kiss are a bunch Of Pirates that would have stole his Musical material and payed him Minimum Wage to be a Session Player basically .
Kiss throwing up their Illuminati gang signs 3:19 👀
Bottom line if Vito would have JOINED the ozzy camp...he'd have been outta the BUSINESS BEFORE HE WAS OUTTA WHITE LION...THATS FOR SURE...HA
I effin love me some Vito, one of the most melodic rock players i ever heard, he started my love for headless guitars! Dude always made them look so effin cool! Even today im playing a white Kiesel Vader!
“Love me some Vito”??? You’ve been “dumbed down” pretty far. You’re better than that.
@@Dr.Jekyll ignorance is bliss..
@@elevenAD You’ll be held accountable for your ignorance.
Vito with Ozzy would work very well. Vito in KISS not so much.
White lion pride phenomenal album solid wicked first song to last after that a couple songs here or there
If anyone asks what the industry is like? Those two stories are a nice beginning to that question!
Sounds like a typical smug mentality.
Standoffish and frankly..lazy.
Guy could have had a full career.
Talent doesn't make you successful, work ethic and always being ready for opportunities does
Vito says Gene and Paul thought he'd be perfect because he was doing all the "modern stuff" and "tapping" - yet they wanted him to play a Les Paul ?? .. Makes no sense .. Vinnie Vincent never played a Les Paul either ... and not sure if Vito realizes "Gene Simmons" is not Chaim Witz's real name ... and Stanley Eisen changed his too .. Peter Criscuola ?? ..Paul Caravello ?? ... I don't mean to piss any of Vito's hardcore fans off, but the guy hasn't done anything in decades, and now he's whining about how he was treated 40 years ago ?? .. Vito, STFU and pick up a guitar, youve got fans who'd rather hear you play than complain
Like it or not Gene Simmons had his hand in a lot of cookie jars and had power in that era
Uhhhhhhh......Speak of the Devil album was all Sabbath stuff on the album. They cherry picked the Sabbath stuff for the album as a big middle finger to the record company. The actual concert they played everything. You go to TH-cam, this app, and see the actual concert. But the more I see about Sharon and Ozzy I am disappointed. They lied and conived about many things they did to great musicians. They didn't know that the internet was coming right around the corner exposing them. I still love the music but Ozzy isn't a hero to me anymore. He's a bully and Sharon is too. And them refusing writing credits to musicians is criminal. They are not good people. I used to have the nick name Ozz, but I don't like anyone calling me that now because I absolutely loath bullies. 😢
And Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley are in the same class! 😢
I'd like to hear him playing Sabbath songs. I can see him doing the Rhoads stuff, but never thought of him being a good Sabbath guy.
When I was a kid, I thought kiss was awesome. Ace Frehley was my guy I wanted to play like him.
Then I got a little older and Paul and Gean started running their mouths and it turned me off so much. It’s like Gean won’t shut up and Paul is the Woody Allen of rock ‘n’ roll with his psychiatrist and his therapist and his analyst. It’s embarrassing.
Vitos KI$$ stage name coulda been
"Vik Brat"...
"Vito Vincent?"
Ozzy and White Lion tour date in Philadelphia 1989 was cancelled
Gene Simmons is actually Chaim Witz. He ethnically whitewashed his own name as did Stanley Eisen. ⭐️
Sharon, AKA Darth Hideous….. Vito dodged a bullet
Sharon Ozbourne wasn't gonna pay Vito, same with the other guitarists.
wow...... LOVE hearing all the stories that I never knew about from the 80s
Tony Iommi and yngvie malmsteen sounds ethnic.
That was the KISS alive 3 tour. I was there. I like Ted but I liked White Lion more. I never knew.
For the record, Gene’s real name is Chaim… so yeah, he did change it to seem less ethnic.
So awesome that Vito is getting the recognition he deserves. I was in the front row at the last While Lion concert in Boston. He played great and after the concert we concidentally connected eyes for a few seconds when he was sitting on the tour bus in the parking lot. His eyes were sad. Would love to see him play again with a great band.
Passing up on KISS was probably a big mistake. Didn't want to play a badass LP or change his name? UHHHHH. Ok. But definitely play a disgusting headless guitar and keep yourself regulated to a C level hair metal band. However he would have gotten fucked by OZZY and KISS so who knows?
Jake was a better fit and songwriter though. Actually for both OZZY and KISS.
Vito light years ahead of kiss. Gene snd paul screwed the rest of the musicisns they hired over anyway. Vito in ozzy would have been interesting though.
Strangely, I was just thinking about Vito yesterday, didn't search him or listen to any White Lion and this video shows up
New tech can read your mind. That's why their stock always goes up.
Good guys of white lion got shitty deals because of ego crap! I get pissed off! Every time i hear of it!
LoL To ethnic sounding? Like Stanley Eisen and Chaim Witz are not. I think they should have kept White Lion on the Crazy Nights Tour as the opening act, probably could have gotten more fans in to see them
Also Criscuola e Caravello, Cysano, Bratta, damn,Kiss had a taste for italians 😂
Saw White Lion back in the 80s Vito didn’t look happy, he sat most of the time on stage and didn’t really look like he was into it, sad
Ironically enough,I Saw White Lion open for Frehleys Comet in '87. Both bands kicked ass! We were right up front. I recall Vito slowly making his way to the front of the stage when he solo'd,and how great he played.
Too talented for kiss
Yea, where is he now? LOL.....Talent only goes so far. Good song writing is more important. Look at The Stones, etc.
@@DoktorDamage And kiss is good song writing? LOL hardly. But you can write a catchy song that is overplayed and earworms into your brain if you have a lot of marketing, the only thing that band does well.
About the time she had a fallout with her Dad!!!!
Kiss, hasent even been relevent, since the Alive album, and very little before then, except for being a mini circus act. Vito, in all respects, was miles above them.
Vito was more talented by far, but Kiss perservered and prospered despite lacking musical virtuosity. I admire them all.
Like kiss or not, kiss remains one of the biggest and most influential bands of all time
I’d say after Love Gun it went downhill. Making that disco album next was a bad idea.
@@jackb348 the album wasnt disco...had only one disco/rock song on it
Gene (Chaim Witz) and Paul (Paul Eisen) were both obsessed with concealing their Jewishness.
No. It was about not showing their identities . Just like super heros
@@mooch514 lol. No. MANY Jews change their names, all for the same reason. Concealment.
Gene & Paul must have permanent PTSD from the NY scene.
Coming from dude who didn't have the courage to use their real names.
Chiam also told John Segel his name was too jewish, so he changed it to Jay Jay French.
Half an hour guitar solo??? God, just shoot me.
Boring. I'm a guitarist and can play well if I need to.....I don't do guitar solos because people get bored of that fast.
Vin replaced Ace in KISS with his double locking whammy equipped Jackson V's in the studio and on the road. So why insist Vito play a Les Paul? SMH.
Ozzy was a jerk to his band mates but not a racist tendencies guy like gene. I wanted to be ozzys guitar . I’d be the Mexican American guy wearing a sombrero dressed like a late 1800s Spanish general then when a solo would be coming up the crowd would either scream in delight or guitarist up and coming would cower in fear…. They would point to stage right where the mighty Rhoads and Gillis used to be , hey that’s Charles O’cornmolio
It would take me 3 months of playing about 10 hours a day to get every song on Blizzard and Diary. What the hell Sharon? Seriously, WTF?
Not just Gene Simmons bullshits 😅😅 if had a nickel for i woulda been a pro athlete but i blew my knee out story well I'd be Rich lol😂
He cut his own feet off.
Who cares about Kiss! They wrote their page in R&R History. Thank God they Hung it up.
Vito Bratta is one of the coolest names I've ever heard.
Sounds like a mob boss ha ha ha..Not a rocker name.
I wonder if the cover band that Vito is referring to is Dreamer?
We want you to play a Les Paul???? What the hell is that?
That's what I just commented. They had no problem with Vin's whammy'd Jackson V's,about as far away from a LP as you can get,other than the humbuckers.
@@imarriedabrkfsttaco3737 Yeah, I say let Vito be expressive all the way.
Sorry Vito, quite a few KI$$ members did change their names to sound less ethnic.. so you weren't the only one.
Gene Simmons was Chaim Witz
Paul Stanley was Stanley Eisen
Ace Frehley was Paul Frehley
Peter Criss was George Criscuola
Vinnie Vincent was Vincent Cusano
Eric Carr was Paul Caravello
Yet Kiss went and hired a guy named "Vinny" But yeah, Vito is too ethnic. haha.
I think Vito is mostly full of crap and himself!
Vito didn't get the gig because he was shorter than Vinnie Vincent and Nuno forget about it!
Long story short , Brad saved ozzy after Rhoads saved ozzy
Sharon osbourne looks younger today than she did back in the day
Im a fan of KISS since childhood. Born in 1974. There's way too much attack on people's race and ID these days. Everyone's ID is sacred, not subject to attack.
❤❤❤ people are people period race religion sex should personal no one's business we should treat each other with respect and love we are all human and bleed red
Because they didn't want him