Being a doctor in New Zealand. What new GPs (& EVERY patient) need to know
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A behind-the-scenes look into the life of a doctor/physician (GP) in New Zealand.
Ally, a member of our NZ Ahead community, moved to New Zealand from the USA last year to work with her husband (also a physician) as a GP in Cambridge, NZ.
In this week's episode, she shares what living in New Zealand as a doctor is like, what she loves about the NZ healthcare system, what she wishes there was more of, and what she's still adjusting to. Enjoy!
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It's good to hear NZ still has Plunket nurses.
Hello, Robert, so happy to have you with us! 😊
Interesting chat with Allie and the comment on the NZ health system. I am fortunate to have access to the italian health system as we are resident. I recently had to change GP and made an appointment to see him. To cut a long story short we had full blood tests, a body ultrasound, and then a carotid artery scan as cholesterol was high. I had to pay €120 in total but all prescribed medicine was free. The GP said it was all about preventing illness not curing illness hence all the tests. The italian GP attitude was certainly different to my experience in the UK where the attitude seems to be “don’t bother me unless you are really ill “which probably reflects more on the system than the individual GP
Thank you for sharing, Iain, preventative is certainly the way to go. Sending love to Italy and here's to good health! 🇮🇹😃
Id expect to see a dr longer than 15mins if I'm paying $5k a year especially if i only go once a year. We are so blessed here. Thank you both for your contribution to making our lives easier.
Thank you for being with us, my friend 😊
Hi Liz , I loved your chat with Allie.
I saw the GP during the dark covid period lol and she didn't like the low energy or the heavy breathing I had just with the short walk down the corridor. She booked me an appointment with the cardiologist at Gizzy hospital who put me on a half a dozen pills. Of which I take daily and I feel sooo much better. Thank you all medical staff for everything you do.
Thank you for sharing, George, we are so glad you are feeling better. Much love to you and everyone over in Gizzy x ❤️
Once again, thank you, great interview, great to hear an American health professionals take on health care in nz ... all thanks to you, your honesty, empathy & enthusiasm shines through, enabling this woman to be comfortable, laugh & share her experiences ... nga mihi nui, many thanks
Thank you, Graeme, so much 😊 Liz
Thank you Dr and your husband, in contributing to NZs health care
Thank you for joining us, Mattie! 😊
Definitely need more of her and her husband coming over. Just a couple of comments. I think it is the Kiwi way to call your doctor by their first name. My children, all in their 40s have really positive memories of their doctor from childhood right through to early adults and always talk about Chris and what an amazing doctor he was. Also at my doctors (Auckland), we have free wellness checks with the Nurse practitioner. I get a complete blood work every 6 months (set by the doctor), he reviews them and makes notes, which I can check online and then when I go to the Nurse she goes through them with me and does weight, blood pressure etc. It doesn't cost me anything.
Thank you for sharing, Anne, I'm glad your answered that, as I saidf when I was a kid you had to "brush your hair, stand up straight and speak to the doctor nicely... in fact, just don't speak. Even better... 😂"
That is highly unusual you walk in the door at my doctor's and a surcharge applies.
Yeah some of these commenters seems somewhat dubious...@@taras5131
Lovely video Liz. Thank you. Our family, my parents, my two brothers and I, moved to a farm ten minutes from Cambridge in June, 1963. I myself left there with my own family, in Nov, 1997. So many changes there since then. Not the close little country village like it used to be. A lot of Auckland $$$ monied have moved south and made their homes there. So so different. So many new homes, roading changes etc. Unrecognisable to how it was. My families Drs surgery was on the corner in Anzac Street there. I have just this wk come through there again on my way back to Tauranga. Beautiful guest Liz and if her family moves back to the US in a yr, or two, I do hope they leave with some awesome memories of their time here.
What a lovely comment, Lesley, thank you for sharing! I'm so glad you enjoyed the chat with Ally, she certainly is a lovely soul 🥰
🎯 Spot on re our health system here. So good to hear an experienced Dr from elsewhere in the world to give their thoughts and experiences. The good and the not so good. I think we all can tell our own stories in that regard. For sure. So appreciate this video Liz. ❤
Thank you, Lesley 🥰
Great interview Liz! You always have such interesting people to chat to about their experiences in NZ. Ally seems such a positive and lovely person. Really enjoyed hearing her thoughts about working here and the differences between NZ and the United States doctors.
Thank you, Susan, yes! We feel very honoured to have these lovely people in our community, I can't believe I get to chat to them and share their stories...what a privilege it is 🥰 Sending you much love my friend x
Interesting to hear differences. We can do a double consult if you have a couple of issues. Cost $50 for 1 consult. Hope you all enjoy your time here. Cambridge is beautiful to be
Listening toyour interviews it tells me youre a very good doctors.thanks very much choosing to come to NZ to stay n help sick people were so happy to hear about your experience.May the Lord blesses your families.❤
Great, informative video, Liz - thank you ❤
Glad you enjoyed it, Maureen! Much love x
There's a couple of ways of looking at private health insurance.
Queue skipping for the rich is one way.
Giving up your spot in the pubic queue to someone who can't afford private insurance is another.
Having the two systems working in parallel is so much better than the fully private system in the US.
That's an excellent point! Thank you!
Love your blog❤
Thank you! We are so glad that you are with us! 🥰
Doctor I love your spirit I love your altitude you pick NZ for your family.❤❤
Thank you for the great talk! In Israel, there are only 10 minutes per appointment, and people naturally want all their problems solved in one visit. Once, I suggested a patient book an additional appointment so we could relate more urgent issues at the first visit and the rest later. Guess what happened? He filed a complaint against me...
An extremely informative interview and insight given the current challenges confronting our health system today. It would be imperative to have comprehensive health insurance if you were to travel through the US
As a Kiwi I hope we get more great internationals coming to NZ. NZ needs the fresh perspective international people bring
@@selenaclarke where are you living. Most shopping malls I visit sound like international airports
Great interview Liz.👍💖❤ I hope they will stay in NZ. 🙏we heard lots of stories about health care in the US....its just unbelivable 🙉. Lots of love💖💖💖
Kia Ora!
Unreal insight and aroha and wairua from your beautiful guest doctor
Nga mihi
Tēnā koe, Karlo, we appreciate you being with us and for your warm welcome to Ally! 🥰
Brilliant amazing humble......
Glad you enjoyed it, Mark, isn't Ally just lovely? I could have talked to her all day 🥰 Have a great weekend my friend!
So I know NZ 2 Drs quite well - they are both big introverts and that always puzzled me a bit as my perception was that they had to interact with people all day. But when I heard she felt a bit lonely it made more sense - maybe the structure of the NZ GP system encourages introverts? I find the GPs I see professionally (not my friends) are lovely but definitely struggle with being people people - they are definitely trying hard though (I am an ambivert and I am pretty empathetic so I find my interactions with most GPs and DRs in general quite interesting 😊
Ok re the 15 mins - that requires a change in mindset for the patient not the provider! I lived in the UK for 15 years and I felt guilty as in the UK you not only have 15 mins you can only discuss ONE topic! So now I feel guilty trying to discuss more than one thing. And as a lifelong IT professional where my time is measured in 15 min intervals I totally get it 😂
I agree NZ does not understand what a HUGE benefit ACC is to NZ - it is self funded! Through its own investment trading arm!! An insurance company we pay for but no one knows exists! People can’t sue for accident or malpractice - which is still unprecedented!.
Ok one last comment - sorry but it pressed a button - maybe a thing to mention in a future video Liz and Brian… People especially from the US come here for adventure holidays because of ACC- you can bunny jump or parachute - or visit White Island (ouch!) because you cannot sue in NZ! Yes there are some painful cases in court at the moment re White Island but can you imagine what it would have been like if they could sue…
Thank you for all your comments here, Minnow, so good! We appreciate you very much. Have a fabulous weekend! 😊
It's $19 for an appointment where I live.
It’s 0 for an appointment where I Live in Western Australia
too much emotional engagement between a doctor and patient can lead to burnout and some patients can be notorious for not respecting boundaries
Thanks for sharing, Andrew, we appreciate you being with us 😊
@@ItsaDrama americans do have cultural differences, what you saw with the "interviewee" was very much "public face", a lot of caution about offending people, whereas you, say, are more direct, anyway, i am not a good respecter of boundaries !
I went to the doctor yesterday, he looked at my record and said "wow, you've not seen a doctor for a long time", i think it's about 12 years. My job means i don't stay in one place for any longer than 7 months so it's difficult to see doctors, dentists etc, so i just don't.🤷
It must be all that glorious fresh air you get at the Lakes! I'm glad to hear you are keeping well, my friend. Sending you much love 😊
@@ItsaDrama glorious fresh rain is the term you were looking for.🤣
Coming from South Africa,yr way of doing medicine is similar to SA.
Been in NZ 19 years now and it's still my single most disappointing thing about living here
Providing "some good care to as many people as possible" perfectly encapsulates the biggest difference between NZ and the US.
NZ draws upon a limited pool of taxpayer dollars to provide healthcare, whereas the US is awash in trillions of private insurance money and every intermediary along the food chain gets to whet their beak.
Thank you for joining us and for your comment; we appreciate you. Adam! 😊
My husband was a GP from London. I was aware that medicine is dangerous bur we had no idea that NZ had a such an issue. My husband was attacked by a patient with a concrete brick and hit over the head six times! Made front page of NZ Herald. NZ lost a wonderful Oxford educated GP because he could never practice again and I was left with virtually no formal education as I was a London musical actress to keep him and my daughter in the manner to which they had become accustomed. ACC at the time was not available;. To my surprise I did. NZ gave me the opportunities that I was denied in UK as I was a woman, It was hard to succeed as a woman here too but "No" in UK means NO! In NZ "No" means perhaps!
Lots about NZ is very different to UK where a gentleman's word is his bond. Here it is not! I attended a government run business school where I was taught to go after a rival - no holds barred. I was shocked but this happens. Every project was stolen and I have had to go to Court three time to get my property back. The Justice and Courts system in NZ is first class, It works but it is time consuming and expensive. It you want to do business in NZ it is a good idea to take a law course first as you will need it. The last occasion I represented myself against two of the biggest corporations in NZ and won, I gave up on NZ and turned to Amazon and the internet and it was just so easy to sell to the world.
NZ is very family orientated and not inclusive. This is hard at Christmas is you are on your own.This happens to many immigrants. "No room at the Inn" is the norm on Xmas Day. Tp make it worse all restaurants are closed. Since my husbands death I have spent 18 Christmases alone. My NZ friends who are happy to come for drinks on Boxing Day or any other day of the year make it clear that Xmas Day is for family. In UK we always had a spare place set for that unknown stranger who was on his/her own.
Was I glad I came? Yes because I was able to achieve my passions here that was no possible in UK.and the weather is so much better. I gave up my UK passport and after 50 years I am a Kiwi, well almost. Never got the accent. So remember NZ is quite a violent society and tough for business as it is ruthless. Australia may be a better bet but for a holiday NZ is hard to beat as long as you book ahead. We didn't and had to tent!
I do wish people would stop saying that we get free medical services here in NZ, We pay our insurance premium in our taxes, The difference is that private companies don't take a large profit out of it.
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Not all people have money to pay for double appointments
Lived in Kaitaia and came back! WOW.
GP is a bad term as people dont know you can and should be a specialist GP, not just someone who has done the 1 year post graduation.
It's wonderful to see a GP from 'Murica come to understand that the BUSINESS that is medicine in the US of A is NOT normal.
I'm a retired RN from Australia. The American system is a disgrace.
Maybe they should all recite the Hippocratic Oath....every day.
Put aside some money for your old age for that MRI or hip replacement or whatever.
Referring to others by their titles works both ways, if the doctor's preference is by title, Dr. then refer to the patient as Mr. Mrs. Ms. However with the liberal introduction of pronouns would we have Mxers or just Mx?
It’s your English hierarchy,hey don’t work in Aus or Nz I still call my Doctor , Doctor I would hate to call my kid Doctor 60 yrs ago by his name Billy I expect it’s a matter of respect
Good story out Daughter at 4 Yrs very sick or so she said,brought her to local doctors Dr Duck.As we sat in waiting room , she said Hey Dad is his name really Dr Duck I answered yes ,Instantly she went into a kid’s bounce and started to sing I am going to see Dr Duck Quack Quack etc That was going fine until a quiet young man opened the door and called out her name and said I am Dr Duck It was so funny Thank you for brilliant video
Swearing in front of a GP is terrible.
I wouldn’t go to a doctor for wellness, you train in disease so why would I see a doctor? They’re are people who train in health and nutrition!
Medical Drs it is said are licensed trained drug pushers for big pharma. As the population ages notice how a list of permanent prescription drugs are pushed on them, always seemingly like a bandaid but never a cure. According to that God must be a twat but rather in actuality, our Creator originally made us with an innate self healing immune system.... no need for doctors, surgeons, medications, specialists, hospitals with big invented machines
Ladies get a different type of exam than men do - let's not forget that. Even if no illness, ladies typically need a yearly exam. So yes, people do go to doctors when nothing is "wrong" for their wellness checks.