Recovery Side Quest feat. TrueAnon | Chapo Trap House
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Episode 690 - Recovery Side Quest feat. TrueAnon (12/19/22)
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Our good friends Liz and Brace of TrueAnon stop by to help us send off The Year of the Smile. We discuss their mini-series on Synanon, a substance rehabilitation program turned violent cult, and how it relates to all sorts of American phenomenon: from 1950’s acid tests to the modern Troubled Teen Industry. We also discuss the state of our collapsing tech/media infrastructure, the Epstein case, and why the government should begin issuing quests to citizens.
Check out TrueAnon’s excellent miniseries The Game starting here: / the-game-part-1-dopefiend
and the rest on Patreon: / trueanonpod
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I love a Chapo x TrueAnon crossover
I was so moved by Brace's story here! I was actually caught up in an eerily similar cult from ages 15 to 19, and the things it does to you are unreal.
The group I was in was called the Palmer Drug Abuse Program, founded by a guy named Bob Meehan, and formed a larger model of substance abuse recovery called Enthusiastic Sobriety
The things he described are things that me and everyone I knew at the time experienced: having your parents pay a big samoan dude to physically come and kidnap you, being sent to the work farms / "wilderness retreats" in MT/ID/UT, it was almost eerie hearing someone else describe it.
And of course the toll it took on everyone. Of that whole social cohort I was in of like 20 or 30 people, every one of us but myself and 3 others are dead now, and I'm only 27.
You had kids coming in for getting caught smoking weed who'd become so horrifically traumatized that they'd come out habitual heroin users by age 16 or 17.
So anyways. I commend Brace for being able to share what happened to him, and bringing light to what goes on in those programs. And huge thanks to Chapo for having him and Liz on to talk about it!
Healing, man. What a thing.
You should sue your parents
We have the white house here in Florida 😁😀😎 good ole fashioned child abuse rape and torture hooray!
@@ericlarsen9830 That's so moving.
Damn.. seems like PDAP is still going strong, despite having a 60 mins exposè back in the day.
@@bsh819 I don't understand is there really a pedo app I can download I thought that was illegal anyways whatever I've gun
Re: a government issued RPG, we should really bring back a WPA style national service, just to force young people to spend a year working on a farm or doing pottery or forestry or writing poetry or whatever. Physically interact with the world, make in person connections with people your age, we've seen how covid and spending your formative years alone in front of screen can break peoples brains.
Love Trueanon. Chapo is good too. BUT, I gotta remember never to scroll down to a Chapo comment box... It's just not worth it. Why do so many people who clearly just hate the pod and all the guests hang out in the comment box being edgy weirdos? Like, go outside dude. Go listen to something else. What are you freaks doing?! Nobody is making you be here!
same thing with the old sub i dont get it either
whatever man this shits boring who cares
"my parents signed me away to MKULTRA slave labor camp at age 13 yadda yadda yadda I was a heroin junkie at 16."
seems pretty clear that if the camps can't be held responsible the parents should be, but maybe we aren't getting the whole story and there is something to be said about an individual's will and character but the end result is no one is talking about any meaningful (and even entertaining) politics because personal "boo hoo" drama sucks all the air out of the room.
@@howilearned2stopworrying508 Read a book. Go for a walk. Call a loved one on the phone.
There used to be a guy who supported them on patreon just to hate listen and argue with people in the comments, I honestly can't imagine hating something enough to pay for the privilege of more hating.
I'm picturing Brace skill rolling past junkies toppling over and clipping through a bathroom door with the extra invincibility frames from his jacket.
Fan art commission immediately
My partners brother was swallowed up but these types of desert rehab scared straight shit.
Just absolutely fucked him up for life. Tragic shit.
I had a RATM listening anarchist friend in high school who ended up getting pretty into drugs and kicked out of his parents’ place and eventually they ended up tricking him into going to one of those wilderness-camps-for-bad-kids like Brace described
I hung out with him after he got out and they completely broke him dude it’s terrifying, not only does he have the social skills of a 5 year old now, he’s become a total alt-righter, is joining the army, and I later found out the 8 of the 15 other dudes in his group there killed themselves like as soon as they were released back into the world
Wild stuff folks
Sounds like you're the 5 year social skilltard. He is on a path of improving himself and you think he is a weirdo for stopping drugs and building a foundation for his life in the military. He may get a trade or go to school after his service to create the environment for him to have his own family. You are coming off jealous.
@@MikeLiteraus this isn’t Jordy Peterstone’s channel bro I think you’re lost
Also he still does drugs lmao
@@XxCorvette1xX Getting clean is a process. He is doing the right things. You really show what type of sad person you are. No wonder you listen to hipster grifters like Chapo and oh poor me mentality.
@@MikeLiteraus lmao TH-cam already flagged your comments as spam/engagement bot activity, and removed them
L bro imagine not even being able to convince an AI that you’re human hahaha
@@XxCorvette1xX You're responding, you probably reported it because you're weak. Says more about you than me. Gonna cry 😭🤣
So many people are willing to just leave addicts to die. I like hearing about people who are able to use their own life as building blocks to help other addicts.
Former addict opens rehab facility to help others get sober > facility staff mistreat kids > kids become addicts > rinse and repeat. Maybe becoming obsessed with elite pedophile conspiracies can break the cycle - or at least make a more interesting cult.
@@ericlarsen9830 that order doesn’t make any sense.
addicted to vidya
Gadde get me sum
"slower, crappier, and kind of like, jenkier" -- man that's been the trajectory of life for the past 20 years.
same bro i fking love jenkem cant get enouh
"Mother Jones" magazine did a piece in 2007 on a "Judge Rotenberg Education Center" where they were doing electric shocks on deeply autistic (and other mental issue) children in a modified boarding school setting and they had a sidepanel on all the various spinoffs of Synanon ("sin no more") including "Phoenix House", "The Seed" (founded by an ex-stand up comedian who had worked in a Playboy Club between the acts, internees had no privacy even in the bathroom, the organization got money from NIMH, the National Institute of Mental Health on a lark), "Elan School" (boxing every day), and "Daytop" (which played a version of Synanon's "game" outright). "The Seed" spawned "Straight, Inc." (Nancy Reagan love the program) which birthed "KIDS, Inc." and the "KIDS of El Paso" branch was amazingly abusive. Counselors came out of "Straight" and worked for "KIDS" with no real medical training or psychological education; they were just well-known graduates of the other program who were now college-aged. The Judge Rotenberg Center was finally closed down in 2011. If it were not for the 2007-8 economic meltdown, the "troubled teen" industry would still be running at full bore; there were counselors in it who had been involved with "teaching" teenagers for twenty or more years who had no degrees, just endless life experience. V. Miller Newton (aka "Father Cassian") was fined millions for running "KIDS of El Paso"; he just vanished into the priesthood, was allegedly abusive there too. Some of the "KIDS Inc." places became "Straight" locations; the one in Utah became "Life-Line" and is still working.
I can't recommend their The Game series enough!
Too much theme music
2:11 what a strange, out-of-character enunciation and cadence. It’s like how Will speaks with a regular American accent unless he’s saying the word “rather”
I have yet to adjust to *rawther*
@@KarmaPaym3ntPlan the FUCK is he doing
@@matttriano we’re all doing our best
The Simpsons episode 'The Joy of Sect' said it all decades ago. Helped keep me sane as a teen during the Bush years, thank God ☄️🛸
I love how dudes who used to smoke meth are always so fast
The braceism in this episode is off the charts. Just wow.
Did you just call me the j word
So brace had to do Holes?
Brace did Hole Eleven
“Pokémon get in my belly” - Hillary Clinton
Pacino mistook the leg for the hoo ha!
the game series is what made me sub to true anon on patreon. the tti is so horrifying and pervasive that i'm thrilled to see so many different types of outlets covering different aspects of it recently. it's a man-made evil that w/in our power to end and every little bit of exposure helps.
seems like with so many horror stories a lawyer could make a name for themselves and a good amount of money representing the victims and getting compensation from the camps, promoters, and parents who sent their kids there. Or maybe this is all a set up to keep people tilting at windmills.
@@ericlarsen9830 the waivers that you're required to sign before allowing a corporation to have physical custody of your child for months, sometimes years at a time are unreal. in many cases, legal custody of the child is signed over, although this happens wayyy less often now. trust me, there've been lots of lawsuits. but they rarely get much publicity and the general public opinion of these types of places, especially in the towns where they're the primary employer, is still overwhelmingly positive. throw in an unlikeable teen victim and it's increasingly difficult to get justice. the tides and public opinion are slowly changing however.
sue the parents who signed their kids away - raising awareness Kony 2012
@@SamanthaCZimmerman you understand these facilities are part and parcel of late stage capitalism and it's class order, right? Only with it's overthrow and replacement would there be any footing to do away with reactionary horseshit like this .
@@joshuamarx8209 hell yeah comrade ✊
Liz is bringing too much jock masculine energy for the pod.
Li-listen here Mac. Ok. We're gonna need you...need you to grind for lithium. Ok. In this place-high level area called Afghanistan. Got hip tip for you pony soldiers. Starting gear is best gear. Don't know why it's like that but it is. Spec into...into uh coding if you want a safe first play through. If you hit level cap you get 3 flasks adrenochrome for NG+. Ok. Game over........ah I'm sorry. Shouldn't a said that.
mr chapo, where is my quest for this month??
I am unwritten
Can't read my mind
I'm undefined
I'm just beginning
The pen's in my hand
Ending unplanned
Staring at the blank page before you
Open up the dirty window
Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find
Reaching for something in the distance
So close you can almost taste it
Release your inhibitions
Feel the rain on your skin
No one else can feel it for you
Only you can let it in
No one else, no one else
Can speak the words on your lips
Drench yourself in words unspoken
Live your life with arms wide open
Today is where your book begins
The rest is still unwritten
Oh, oh, oh
I break tradition
Sometimes my tries are outside the lines
We've been conditioned to not make mistakes
But I can't live that way
Staring at the blank page before you
Open up the dirty window
Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find
Reaching for something in the distance
So close you can almost taste it
Release your inhibitions
Feel the rain on your skin
No one else can feel it for you
Only you can let it in
No one else, no one else
Can speak the words on your lips
Drench yourself in words unspoken
Live your life with arms wide open
Today is where your book begins
Feel the rain on your skin
No one else can feel it for you
Only you can let it in
No one else, no one else
Can speak the words on your lips
Drench yourself in words unspoken
Live your life with arms wide open
Today is where your book begins
The rest is still unwritten
Staring at the blank page before you
Open up the dirty window
Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find
Reaching for something in the distance
So close you can almost taste it
Release your inhibitions
Feel the rain on your skin
No one else can feel it for you
Only you can let it in
No one else, no one else
Can speak the words on your lips
Drench yourself in words unspoken
Live your life with arms wide open
Today is where your book begins
Feel the rain on your skin
No one else can feel it for you
Only you can let it in
No one else, no one else
Can speak the words on your lips
Drench yourself in words unspoken
Live your life with arms wide open
Today is where your book begins
The rest is still unwritten
The rest is still unwritten
The rest is still unwritten
Oh, yeah, yeah
Yaa ayaaaa ay ay ayaaaaa
^^^ = [backup vocals for chorus]
@@DamTheKid you're a little sharp.
chapo trap house attracts the most interesting high-effort comments i've ever seen
That’s pretty good! Did you write it?
My favorite tool song is called a hooker with a penis
I agree with Felix on football it is dishonest I’m Latin and I don’t pretend to like football I just know the sport through my parents
Read this comment section, look at the people feeling themselves in here, then get armed.
dunno about Rudyard Kipling, but one author who *definitely* had opinions about lady smells was James Joyce
Well, like many of history’s geniuses he had very poor eyesight
What song is playing at the very end of the podcast? Sounds like some video game soundtrack?
I also want to know. It sounds familiar but I can’t place it. Castlevania maybe?
"The Game" is pretty much exactly what Henry Murray did to 16/17 year old Ted Kaczynski while he was attending Harvard in the late 50s, just with more people. Thankfully most people who are subjected to this don't do anything even close to the shit Ted was doing, but it still like psychologically breaks so many young people it's insane that it's still happening.
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@@lanceblankenship9995 good for you
@@lanceblankenship9995 hm, well i tried it that way. Doesnt really work.
I don't like how ubiquitous the stick vape has become. When I started with It I was the only one, everyone else still had cigarettes and juice box vapes. Now every kid I see has a puffbar.
I'm just glad I can live the best scene in Prometheus "Tobacco (inhales) sure".
I agree and the worst part is puff bars are garbage.
Bad teen school alumnus 2007 Harbor Oaks in Mars Hill NC
Is that outro music another Young Chomsky piece?
Will watches sports? BS. I’m a cinephile whose spirit animal is capybara and I like sports there can only be one
24:00 Maslow's Personality and Motivation?
Nazism and decadence..
Lotta short stories down here in the comment trenches…
picking through the minecart leavings between the Content Mines and the Podcast Refinery
I had an ex who was a former addict who swore by the SMART program for recovery.
DARE worked for me. There's 2 sides to every story, as Brace said - you shouldn't let him stay over your house, he isn't trustworthy.
@@howilearned2stopworrying508 You tell what is patently a lie and call other people liars...
DARE didn't work; being middle class in the suburbs, and having access to resources/opportunities did..
@@joshuamarx8209 if your parents can pay for you to be kidnapped and held against your will for months I think you have resources, but very bad parents who should be held accountable.
@@howilearned2stopworrying508 fair enough but the point of DARE doing far more harm than good cumulatively stands.
haha nice
Adderall. 49:06 - 52:15
Aderall is amfetamin with a brand name!!!
I think private prisons makes it very easy to put the blame on a few nefarious actors out for money. The truth is private prison abuses are symptoms, not causes of over incarceration. The true culprit, nearly too large to address, is American culture. Most average, ordinary Americans hate "criminals" and WANT to see them tortured and abused.
Still a symptom more than the disease. Believing in a Retributive form of justice is an unfortunate reality in most societies and it is also hard to argue against when it comes to the victim of particularly heinous crimes but those numbers should go down in educated, economically well off and progressive societies. Even between the UK and US I would guess the numbers for people believing in Rehabilitation versus Retributive form of justice would be noticeably different with an even larger disparity between urban and rural demograpphics.
this isnt isolated to USA. Pretty common sentiment in UK too. Though thats not really surprising considering england used entire countries as prisons 🦘
Case in point being how prison rape is often seen as just desserts for a life of crime.
I blame the Demorats.
The mistake is focusing on a “few” nefarious actors. Mass incarceration is the fault of the owner class and their bought politicians in the State. Public services to help the poor (thus reduce crime) cost a lot of taxes and make it harder for owners to price gouge vulnerable populations. Cheaper for the owners to throw them in jail and make the middle class pay for it. Owners also want to micromanage the “aesthetics” of their property to increase property values, including disappearing any signs of poverty around their businesses. This is the more explicit goal of many of their “charity” projects. They are “cleaning up” the streets aka arresting and displacing hundreds of people and “renovating blighted neighborhoods” aka replacing them with overpriced properties.
The State uses police to make sure the poor fall in line with the capitalist system, rather than living off parallel systems. The state criminalizes poverty at the behest of the owner class. Slave labor and private prisons are just another place the owners can make money off their carceral state.
As for the culture, once again the owner class drives fear of poverty through propaganda in the media. It portrays poverty as filthy and decadent. It portrays poor people as parasites. Best example: Fox News always ramps up crime coverage right before elections.
So no, it’s not the culture’s fault. The owner class prefers mass incarceration and creates a culture to justify their evil. Like how saying “some people are slaves some people are free that’s just how it is” they had to invent a whole system of racism to justify exploitation.
200th like. Better than being 1st. Just saying.
200 > 1
it's just a fact, folks.
Hey you guys
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What up jumper high, how are you doing
Trust me, antidepressants aren’t nearly as effective as you suppose here- 49:35. I’ve tried 5 and none of them did anything except ones which made me more depressed. This is a common story too.
By the way, can anybody tell me the answer to the dragon's riddle on stage 4 of the Detroit quest line? This is killing me.
I think the leg is probably the closest thing to a pussy, for a blind man. Arguably the greatest Felix quote ever.
48:53 - His dream is to be a pawn shop owner...?
Try using your platform to do anything...let alone organize
They do though... constantly.
@@ClibanariusJJ organizing is all we got
@@ClibanariusJJ who hurt you?
@@ClibanariusJJ People like Chapo and their ideology is why the West is dying.
@@ClibanariusJJ You're probably just useless. You will be just as useless in your communist fantasy. Do you know what happens to the useless eaters and takers?
How many fcking renditions of the TrueAnon theme do we fcking need?? That was my takeaway from their series
You must have a damn smooth brain then
1:06:13 - Yes. It's tough. To completely ignore Whitney Webb's book One Nation Under Blackmail. Totally. I know. Must be really hard on you.
Their miniseries The Game sounds like one of the NYT podcasts you all bashed and called "Booooorrrriiiiiinnnngggg." Lame
you have baby brain
@@ince55ant Nah that miniseries was so cringe and stupid
You were just disappointed it wasn’t about pickup artistry with a title like that
@@ince55ant No, I actually like their miniseries, or at least The Game Part 1: Dopefiend. I'm just mocking Chapo for being so hypocritical and cynical, slamming all of these podcasts and movies they haven't even heard/seen, and then spending an hour talking about one that's the exact same fucking thing, except with their friends, so it's somehow fine.
What movies did they make fun of? Also they hate gladwell as do I it’s not some new thing from them
"Research addressing genetic and environmental determinants to antisocial behaviour suggests substantial variability across studies. Likewise, evidence for etiologic gender differences is mixed, and estimates might be biased due to assortative mating. We used longitudinal Swedish total population registers to estimate the heritability of objectively measured violent offending (convictions) in classic twin (N = 36,877 pairs), adoptee-parent (N = 5,068 pairs), adoptee-sibling (N = 10,610 pairs), and sibling designs (N = 1,521,066 pairs). Type and degree of assortative mating were calculated from comparisons between spouses of siblings and half-siblings, and across consecutive spouses. Heritability estimates for the liability of violent offending agreed with previously reported heritability for self-reported antisocial behaviour. While the sibling model yielded estimates similar to the twin model (A ≈ 55%, C ≈ 13%), adoptee-models appeared to underestimate familial effects (A ≈ 20-30%, C ≈ 0%). Assortative mating was moderate to strong (r spouse = 0.4), appeared to result from both phenotypic assortment and social homogamy, but had only minor effect on variance components. Finally, we found significant gender differences in the etiology of violent crime."
All of these statistics are summaries or representations of patterns in the real world. They are not concrete entities in and of themselves. So, for example, the authors admit that their power to detect patterns among females was low. Why? There were simply too few female violent criminals! Second, they speculate that their lower values for adopted-parent comparison had to do with a similar problem: this Swedish sample tended to have adopted parents who were extremely lacking in criminality, while their childs' biological parents tended toward violent crime.
The biggest issue here is that direct parental suasion and modeling matters a lot less than the broader milieu which the parents raise their offspring in. In a broad stylize fashion Dan Quayle may have been right, but Hillary Clinton was right too: it takes a village.
Are you the founder of gay Wikipedia?
how many hours of your life have you wasted writing thesis papers in chapo comments sections? can you imagine what cool shit you could have done with that time?
Boring episode
Ok reactionary.
no u
Yet another cost of crime. The total cost and effect of crime on America in the 20th century is truly mind-boggling - must be one of the most understudied and underrated issues in all of sociology, urban economics, and urban planning.
Millions (mostly white people) fled once prosperous cities like Detroit because of crime, and the violence their (mostly white) children experienced in schools. The landscape of the American city changed because of crime. Political coalitions changed because of crime. The conservative revolution of the late 70s/early 80s happened in large part (after stagflation) due to crime. We wouldn't have suburbia to the extent we have it today without crime. In an alternate universe where we didn't have the unbelievably high crime rates among Blacks (which also affected Blacks to be sure) would we have denser and therefore cheaper housing? Alex T, Matt Yglesias, and Tyler Cowen constantly say that the high cost of housing especially in the most productive metros is the biggest problem in the economy. How many percentage points higher would the GDP growth have been in this alternate universe?
I've watched a lot of Tyler Cowen's talks on TH-cam including very recent ones and in any talk, he gives he emphasizes how a mere 1 percentage point of GDP growth compounded over the course of a few decades results in a nation either having the living standards of the US or Mexico. It's a truly wonderful example of the importance of economic growth. So economists who emphasize economic growth should be more curious on this understudied topic. I see writers like Steve Sailer, Helen Andrews, Glenn Loury, and Christopher Caldwell talk about how crime changed America in the 20th century. Yet so little curiosity among economists about how many percentage points of GDP we'd have had and where our standard of living would be now if it weren't for the costs and effects of crime.
I am taken aback every time I look at TH-cam footage of how cities like New York looked in the 70s and 80s. Truly astounding that American society let crime shape so much of America because of the fear of being called racist. But then not so surprising considering what Europe is doing to itself on immigration for the same fear of being called racist.
I always bring this up anytime someone brings up 'walkable cities'. Crime. The difference is crime. If you increased American urban density substantially while extricating cars and vehicle-borne criminal activity, you get what you're seeing in downtown SF, LA, Chicago, St. Louis, and malls across America on steroids.
Walkable European metros do not have American thuggery to contend with, and they would become ghost towns if they did.
man you're so full of shit. This is what happens when your ideology is founded on a lack of class analysis and instead is supplanted by racism and pseudointellectual free market capitalism. Also I would love to hear your prescription for crime, seeing as how you hilariously seem to have reversed the trend of poverty causing crime and warping culture into culture causing crime and damaging society
@@QuinnShiHuangDi "poor people just can't help but have high violent crime rates"
Well, I disagree. Plenty of places in this world far poorer than the worst neighborhoods in the US that have much lower crime rates.
Leftists are such cowards when it comes to discussing taboo subjects.
@@lanceblankenship9995 Ok, shoot. Give me a country poorer than the US with comparable levels of urbanization and proletarianization that has lower crime rates. No dictatorships allowed.
America has put millions of men in chains and still can’t solve their “crime” problem
yo lance is back with the schizoposting, we love to see it folks
Chapo Comment threads let's go!
"Chicago Public Schools (CPS) now spends over $29,000 per student, compared to $17,800 per student in 2020. According to the Illinois State Board of Education, CPS enrollment has decreased by 8.9% since 2020, with the Chicago Sun-Times projecting an additional 2.8% decrease in 2023"
"CPS performance has declined as well, according to the 2021 Illinois Report Card. Only 26% of juniors could read or practice math at grade-level. According to a report by Ted Dabrowski and John Klingner from Wirepoints, only 11% of Black students and 17% of Hispanic students were reading on grade level in 2021.
New York City public schools (NYC) is in a similar situation. NYC spent $30,772 per student in 2020, with enrollment declining 9.5% since 2020. According to the New York State Education Department, only 44% of students were proficient in reading in 2019. While the NYC Department of Education maintains that scores rose in 2021, only 21.6% of students were tested at all during the pandemic.
Washington D.C. spent $30,115 per student in 2020, with D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser announcing an increase in spending by about $200 million in February, estimating an increase of $690 per student. While enrollment has declined in D.C. public schools by 2% since 2021, this is in sharp contrast to the trending increase during the aughts. For D.C. students, only 31% of students were at grade level in reading, and 22% in math.
Los Angeles Unified School District (LAUSD) voted in 2021 to increase their per student spending to over $24,000, a more than $8,000 increase over five years. LAUSD enrollment has declined 8% in the past two years. The district has lost 58% of its students since the 2000s. Only 41.7% of LAUSD students were reading at grade level, while only 28.5% were on grade level in math.
The national average for public K-12 education spending per student in 2018-19 was $13,187. In 2020, the amount rose to $13,494. Chicago Public Schools, the New York City Department of Education, and the Los Angeles Unified School District more than double the national average in per student spending."
Every child can grow up to obtain a PhD in physics from MIT, if only we spend 3,756,428 dollars per student.
Break down tuition costs
I think it would do a lot of good for the people that watch the show and the members of this show and Friends check out John Taylor gatto he was a school teacher out of New York talks about the history behind the compulsory schooling system he was teacher of the year for New York state New York City blah blah blah couple of times English teacher good man
@@condor237 now I'm not I wouldn't respond to that cuz I feel like this is some kind of bait but if I'm going to be honest my favorite Tupac I'm already shakura song is hold on I got to listen to his whole catalog give me a second
Ironically, Scent Of A Woman was a remake of a 70s Italian movie… you guys are talking about a re-re make at this point.
🧉🦄
i feel as though, somehow, that makes it all the more poignant that they beought it up. very in-character for both capitalism and cth, for different reasons.