WARFRAME TIERLIST | Level Cap & Void Cascade (Unscripted)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- I absolutely hope there is a full blown war in the comment section xD
PLEASE NOTE: The "FF" Tier does not always mean that warframe is BAD but, they need some sort of rework or help in order for their good qualities to be brought fourth!!
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For anyone who say the tier list is trash I wonder if y’all just didn’t read the title besides tier list. This tier list is rating them based on void cascade so the ranking is going to be vastly different from normal gameplay.
God bless, gonna pin this comment
thankfully ive only gotten one or two salty comments- i think theyre funny xD
still trash
I’m pretty sure they’re just trolling for a reaction
@@Marshi1I hope they are trolling because tierlist is based on personal preference as well. I do have some problems with this list but it is mostly fine list.
@@danielcore1832 crying rn its ur fault
1:20 Ash
2:55 Atlas
4:48 Banshee
7:15 Baruuk
8:45 Caliban
11:26 Citrine
12:43 Chroma
13:43 based knightmareframe hater
15:46 Dagath
16:58 Dante
18:21 Ember
20:35 Equinox
21:50 Excalibur
26:34 Frost
28:33 Gara
29:28 Garuda
31:45 Gauss
33:36 Grendel
33:59 Gyre
34:42 Harrow
36:28 Hildryn
37:48 Hydroid
40:15 Inaros
41:20 Ivara
43:01 Jade
45:25 Khora
46:51 Kullervo
50:18 Lavos
52:35 Limbo
54:27 Loki
56:34 Mag
57:15 Mesa
58:31 Mirage
1:01:35 Nekros
1:02:34 Nezha
1:04:28 Nidus
1:06:25 Nova
1:07:55 Nyx
1:09:15 Oberon
1:09:59 Octavia
1:10:49 Protea
1:12:07 Qorvex
1:13:26 Revenant
1:14:41 Rhino
1:17:02 Saryn
1:18:42 Sevagoth
1:20:50 Styanax
1:22:55 Titania
1:24:35 Trinity
1:25:55 Valkyr
1:27:41 Vauban
1:29:03 Volt
1:29:56 Voruna
1:32:03 Wisp
1:34:12 Wukong
1:34:59 Xaku
1:35:44 Yareli
1:36:44 Zephyr
Several ratings are changed throughout the video
Youre so awesome
Thank you
No mesa??
@@masonishope2765 57:15 mb
I'll be honest with you, it's an excellent tier list, mainly because it's limited to a very specific niche such as the level cap and void cascade, so it doesn't fall into generalities. Without a doubt, it's a W tier list and a very good concept.
crying about the lack of content on the channel, I hope you keep growing and making videos
That honestly means a ton that makes me super happy
Soon !!! I have a scripted voruna video coming up- and let me tell you... its really insane xD
Yes tier lists that are very specific are superior, even if still subjective.
Agreed, also quite entertaining
I'd argue that Xaku is in SS tier. They can run Shade and stay permanently invisible while their auto turrets nuke lv 9999 enemies.
Shade does not provide consistent invisibility. You need to use some kind of kubrow i don't remember name of. But i agree Xaku is one of my favourite frames for endurance runs
@@notaveryinterestingpersonnot 100% sure on this but doesn't shade give invis until you attack meaning you could go perma invis until you shoot/use an ability
@@QuirrelSquad, yup thats how that works but its only within a certain a range from the enemies. So if you're slightly away from the enemy, you can still be seen and shot at. It also becomes a problem especially when you can't guarantee not attacking or shooting
You can use a kubrow with the invis mod to avoid having to be within range of enemies for it
@@QuirrelSquadshade will give invisiblity as long as you don't shoot or use melee if you use abilities it will not stop it's invisibility, xaku main source of damage is ability so you can infinitely remain invisible
I'm not letting this Nezha slander stand I'm taking my boy to level cap right now, Rhino wishes he could look this good.
@@WillBoy182 LMAO
rhino is the drippiest mf to drip this earth
1:02:56 "he doesn't have access to level cap killing like single target damage" > completely ignore blazing charkram's damage vulnerability debuff that scale 100% of his total strength
@@fishinghat1937 This multiplicative buff is ONLY 100%
where mirage can reach nearly 800% on low investment high strength builds
Also theres a plethora of weapons that have multiplicative gun CO which can easily reach over 100%
For a single ability to only grand 100% dmg vulnerability, its actually suprisingly bad compared to ALL the other sources we have of multi dmg vulnerability
is it nice? yes
but its not a faction bonus like roar, its not 800% like mirage
its not even jade, who buff multiplicatively AND additively, for massive damage
out of all the dmg buffing sources in the game it still falls short
@@keppochuppu did you just miss read "scale 100% of total strength" as "ONLY 100% damage vulnerability"?
Wukong definitely is in the nerf tier for void cascade. Slam wukong with damage cap geared for energy efficiency and roar basically leaves Wukong immortal and can one shot level cap thralls. Not to mention having the best movement ability in the game to reach the next point.
Wisp gets 3sec of immortality when teleporting with wil-o-wisp. If you teleport on the spot it's effectively better than cat shield gating.
@@epve3921 I completely forgot about that when I was making the list xD
Her invisibility breaks when shooting so using a zaw really helps. And using her motes as instant teleports can help you get out of sticking situations
Harrow is my main and I'm glad someone finally recognizes his power and utility. Sure he has to be a bit selfish to get his support going but if you're not able to kill as a Harrow then either you're bringing bad weapons or don't know the frame
Exaaaaactly
I mained harrow for a loooong time when he came out, and coming back to the game hes only gotten stronger. Lots of the gripes people have with warframes really boil down to skill issues xD
@@keppochuppuAny helminth you recommend for my Boy Harrow? If multiple better...
@@andrewvazquez9557 No helminth, hes perfect as is. Normally theres some sorta ability you can take off from a frame, but harrows all work perfectly and are great. IF you wanna take something off, you can take off his 4th, but its still an amazing ability
@@andrewvazquez9557 i have a recommendation as a Harrow main for SP Cascade and Level Cap, use Pillage instead of Condemn, you will lose crowd control but will gain instant shield regeneration if used correctly and Armor Strip, build for +200% strength and duration, range and efficiency doesn’t matter because Pillage AoE grows overtime and with thurible you have ridiculous amounts of energy regen, and since Pillage is uncastable you can use it to have shields on demand as long as you have it constantly running, which works perfect for shieldgating, the only big flaw is that it requires enemies with armor to get shields and if you strip all your enemies of it you will be in deep trouble, but that rarely happens unless you dont kill enemies at all.
Ty so much for putting sevagoth in SS tier, he is absolutely broken with the augments but people just don't realize it.
(Edit): You could also run zephyr with the augment for the first ability to one shot lvl cap
@@robbebertier1730 so true, he's a force to be reckoned with with those augments
Zephyr is clearly the most easiest to reach level cap with in Cascade. When you were thinking about where to put her I was a bit skeptical but the way you moved her to SS made me smirk.
I love the unscripted/uncut video. Just listening to this video is incredibly nice.
Also I much prefer this kind of tierlist over just general tierlist. So much more informative.
Fantastic job, definitely a sub and like earned :D
@@eduardwille1711 dawwwww stawwwp
That genuinely means a ton thank you so much ♥️
I am simple man, I see mag in S tier I like.
(But seriously, good job with the list! I agree with most of the points here, except I think I’d bump up banshee just a bit on the s tier, but that’s just my opinion.)
Hell mf yea
The list for sure isint perfect but i dont take it quite as seriously as most other people would
just be glad its not overframe brainrot
there is no way Loki is in SS tier. I feel like i'm back in 2011. This is incredible.
LOL Hes super great, tons of comfort and ease of use, he essentially is harder to kill than revenant when running his safeguard switch augment. Only issue is he suffers with damage buffing abilities, but xatas or roar or any other buff ability can be put onto him so its ezpz
Invisible is the best way to survive
Loki main here, he is incredible,no energy problem too
Yay! Definitely more reliable than Overframe tier list lol.
@@spikeyee972 so true overframe is mastery rank 12 brainrot at this point xD
My boy so many lenguages and you spoke the truth
@@keppochuppumastery rank 12 the new bot rank cuz im mastery rank 12 😭😭
@@tony6867 XD it's much easier to get to Mr 12 than it was back in the day
I've seen someone get to 12 in 3 days before it is kinda crazy
The rabbit hole always goes waaaaay lower which is why we dog on mr 12's
Just know it's all in good fun and I help new players all the time if you do need help there's a ton of people willing in WF
Wait I just realized you are the same person that made the Styanax video! Been using your Styanax playstyle/build for a while and having a blast haha. Can't wait for the Voruna video since she is one of my favorite frames!
@@yvanmezencev4669 so awesome you're using it in game, you'll love the voruna build it's scary good!!
@@keppochuppuSame for me. Literally made Styanax one of my favorite frames to play. Will you be doing a Caliban video once the rework comes out?
@@anthonytrezvant801 oh you absolutely know I'm gonna make a Caliban video
I can confirm with 100% certainty that you can do level cap with every single warframe, so dont look at who is the best, instead look at who you find the most fun
My favorites are Voruna (The apm check), Dante (The other apm check), Kullervo (The democrat), Jade (The terrorist), Wisp (enemy interactions?) and Styanax
Maybe not inaros. No gating of any form. He dies in 1 hit to literally ANYTHING in level cap, unlike literally any other frame. I still feel like they should've made his 3 give him overguard instead of armor. He needs it!
As a long-time Nezha main his placement doesn't surprise me at all. I don't do level cap stuff, and he is great in content all the way up to and past EDAs, but the few times that I got him on SP Circuit I could tell very quickly that he doesn't scale that well past level 1000 or so. Warding Halo basically stops working at that level, and his other abilities are reliant on either his new nuke or your weapons, and at that point you're better off using other frames.
Unlike Rhino, even when you get millions of points in Warding Halo, the damage the enemies deal will kill you regardless because it's not a 100% reduction, and while he can heal with Blazing Chakram, it's more of a backup tool than something you want to rely on.
Speaking of Blazing Chakram though, having a lot of power strength (as you should) and a subsumed Roar can give you an 8x+ damage multiplier to anything you point it at, which is cool, but like I said there are other ways of doing way more damage on frames that are better suited to surviving in that environment.
The only thing that I find a problem about Nezha is just the damn Overgaurd. But in all I love my Nezha.
Hey for the acid reflux have you tried taking apple cider vinegar for it? Definitely a niche solution but for a lot of people apparently reflux is caused by naturally low stomach acid rather then the muscle weakening thing, so drinking about 30ml of apple cider vinegar watered down with like 5-10ml of water to make it swallowable, makes your stomach go like "oh hey, acid, we should close this sphincter". Make sure to wash your mouth out thoroughly afterwards so it doesn't eat away at your teeth, and there's a chance it could help you get off these medications that have horrible long term side effects
@@frank8959 I have tried it in the past and it did help a little bit !! But I have a percriibed acid reducer that helps a TON
It's not over the counter it's a pill with a crazy name but they don't have any side effects if you take them every other day
I was just a dummy and missed a few days of the medication and ended up needing to double dose the day of the video so the hiccups were bad 😭
Instant sub from me. I didn't expect to watch the whole thing, but this was a chill video about something I've been curious about but haven't tried yet.
Looking forward to more, and I'm kind've hyped for your voruna video.
@@Verus07 that means a bunch thank you tons :))
@@keppochuppu BTW which titania video are you referencing in your video? She's one of my favorite frames and I wouldn't mind some updated build advice.
@@Verus07this one right here
th-cam.com/video/VeJ3LTarG2I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=t6bZhpU-X3b20wnQ
I love Harrow as well, which makes me also sad. As you mentioned - amazing synergy.
HOWEVER - if you are able to hit anything. If you have a Saryn with 2 villages range, as 90% of the players, you cannot hit any enemy, therefore you cannot buff, even you cannot survive sometimes (100lvl+ with Saryn/Mesa in the team).
Considering cap level enemies, probably he can shine there.
@@dvergrmort6334 yeah in base steel path where the saryn and mesa mains live, everything's basically dead before you see it on your screen
But in level cap both saryn and mesa struggle to survive, Harrow thrives
niche tierlists are better anyway, cause they kinda show that most warframes have a niche they excel at
A big complain I have is the Ranking of Jade. Since we are talking about lvl cap Void Cascade I don't understand why she is not SS since her 1 AND 2 both buff the Operators Amp Dmg for EVERYONE IN RANGE. Making lvl cap Thraxes look like trash fodder. I mean she is just made for this gamemode rly. Even if you don"t like her insanely strong kid somehow you cant denie that this ability alone should rank her in SS.
@@notkrustykrab2679 that was something I didn't consider- I'd really like to look at her more in-depth i completely forgot her 1 gave damage vulnerability
As long as you have the right arcanes, lvl cap thrax are fodder. I accidentally brought my 123 Amp instead of my 177 and I didn't even notice until we extracted.
@@keppochuppu I think her damage vulnerability is one of the most unique and strong aspects of her kit that makes her S tier alone, but she’s also hard to kill and has great damage potential. Plus any frames that are already good can become even better with her on the team.
How does the Titania build work? Just slash from dex pixia? Or are we pillage stripping?
Also wukong slam with primer are some of the most comfy level caps I’ve done.
Whoops double post
Full strip via corrosive shards, dex pixia modded with cold+corrosive and nourish subsumed for viral does really good damage
This video was really cool! Xaku was a bit lower than I thought he’d be. I would recommend playing him with covenant (Harrow’s subsume ability) subsumed over his 1. It’s just really nice and easy shield gating and the way it looks and sounds makes it feel thematically perfect for Xaku!
Saw this video bit after it came out (a day or two) and I just want to say I am eagerly awaiting the Voruna build you talked about ^_^
I couldn't agree more about Excalibur, he is one of the most powerful if not THE most powerful melee frame.
If he had a survivability option would make him S-tier imo.
@@MEYH3M So true. He just needs a tiny tiny rework and he would be perfect
1:13:50 note: Revenant CAN do his Reave one shot thing (Kompressa is great at proccing viral procs)...
...BUT because Reave only scales with enemy health, has to eat through enemy Overguard FIRST, and that Overguard keeps scaling higher with enemy level, i don't think its possible to one shot any Thrax units even with max Strength.
i don't run level cap, but while my Revenant can comfortably annhilate Thrax units up to like lvl 300 with a single hit, anything above that requires two Reave dashes (or for you to U-turn)
@@gault6546 hell yea this is an awesome comment, I can't tell you how many people I've seen just scream revenant is the best frame in the game without explaining why or how
And you're right about over guard and reave, it's why people max out at around 180 exos in void cascade is the overguard becomes so so much that you just can't chew through it in time
For Nezha, I'd like to argue that if you went w/ a tank Nezha build with the Reaping Chakram augment, adaptation, and max strength, you could commit to single-target quite easily. His only issue is overguard, but that can be fixed with a Laetum that's arcaned with Secondary Fortifier (which gives himself an extra layer of defense, too).
I personally haven't taken him to Level Cap yet with a tank strength build, but I've done EDA with it quite comfortably and still kill at a consistent rate, so that would probably bump his rank to somewhere along the High B tier at least. Other than that, I think your tier list for level cap is really cool! Kudos to you, man.
I think its important to understand the sorta damage enemies are doing at level cap- it doesnt matter if your damage reduction is as small as 99.99, enemies CAN kill you through damage reduction. Nezha with warding halo and adaptation is not NEARLY enough damage reduction to keep you from dying. Its exactly why shield gating is so valuable endgame because the actual invulnerability is what keeps you alive
Dagath is absolutely insane for solo and squad level cap runs in void cascade, she can do it all, trash clear, one shotting thrax, deleting acolytes while basically being immortal. Only bad thing I've been seeing with her is that wyrd scythes slow down thrax without overguard for a whole minute.
You’ve become my favorite Warframe TH-camr. I love that you create builds for what you love doing in the game, not just what is most efficient. It just happens that the content you like, level cap, requires a modicum of efficiency 😅
Its a delicate balance, but with good build crafting its always possible. I love making off meta builds :)))
very excited to see your excalibur build, i've been collecting a good dozen different builds trying to find the most comfortable ones with a good mix between sustain and damage, hopefully i can see better results
@@redoric5944 I really want to make a video but he just has a hard time surviving sometimes :((
@@keppochuppu i've been running vazarin focus to keep him alive, it's tedious swapping to give myself the immunity but maybe coupling it with rolling guard could do something? i havent played level cap in ages so i don't have any other ideas haha
@@redoric5944 I think that could work but I really enjoy comfort in my builds and having to swap to operator constantly sucks 😔
@@keppochuppu yeah me too haha, my primary build i use eclipse over javelin, i dont use PSF and i use warrior's rest, whenever i'm about to get knocked down i slash dash to avoid it. eclipse is nice cuz i get 87-127% dmg or the 75% dmg reduction on top of adaptation and i use arcane blessing for more EHP, two purple melee crit dmg shards, 2 duration shards and a green tauforged corrosive stack shard.
From this vid I now want to see your mirage , loki, ash, saryn, harrow volt etc build
Thats for sure a tall order- but maybe in the future I could cover them all
@@keppochuppu beeet 🔥
Oh, just got to Wukong, recently found that you can use cloud walker to cancel the slam recovery animation, and you can heavy slam out of cloud walker. Haven't tested the potential of the staff to actually deal slam damage. (Based zephyr placement)
Hey Keppochuppu, when is the Voruna build coming out? Iv just gotten Voruna and need that crazy build you are talking about! Hope to see it soon
Still plugging away- need to learn alot of things to make a good video, nonetheless im still working on it !
This is fantastic. Been trying to get into cascade and this is a good guide thanks man!
Pretty awesome tier list, I love your boldness to see what can shine in a frame in the right scenario.
I do think that you seemed to rate things higher on average as the video progressed and for frames you were the most familiar with. That makes sense but Baruuk is much stronger than you placed him even at level cap. Not the best but if built right he keeps up.
Jade probably deserved to stay in S tier too because of her crazy amounts of heat procs, survivability, and how she makes most other frames better and more destructive. When you consider that she buffs ally damage in three ways (damage aura, defense strip, and vulnerability) she makes everyone else scale way higher while also holding her own. I think that’s at least S tier for support reasons.
I don't know anything about Warframe, I'm just here for the man behind the voice 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
Eat my weenor
I’m glad my boy Ash and Dante are up there! I just wish Excalibur had better survivability too. Normally you’d wanna use blind when dealing with eximus. Not because it affects eximus, but has you solely focus on them while everything else is blinded. Slash dash is basically free I-frame to health, which is absolutely amazing. You wanna use slash dash to close in on Eximus or tougher enemies to kill them quickly. His 3 is only ever good with augment, which sucks cuz you also need to run chromatic blade. That’s 2 slots just for is augments! Speaking of chromatic blade, the life steal should already be built into his kit.
Appreciate your thoughts and the specialized tier list. Great video that I definitely listened to while play Warframe. Keep up the good content!
@@QuietLunacy awesome I'm glad it's something you can put on in the background, that's honestly what I was hoping it would be !! I love listening to videos while I'm farming
About the vauban, i think nourish is the superior subsume for him purely because the damage % buff applies multiplicatively on his flechettes, which is also multiplicatively buffed by his overdriver. You end up one shotting enemies in level cap easily with how much damage they do.
I’m glad my boy Ash and Dante are up there! I just wish Excalibur had better survivability too. Normally you’d wanna use blind when dealing with eximus. Not because it affects eximus, but has you solely focus on them while everything else is blinded. Slash dash is basically free I-frame to health, which is absolutely amazing. You wanna use slash dash to close in on Eximus or tougher enemies to kill them quickly. His 3 is only ever good with augment, which sucks cuz you also need to run chromatic blade. That’s 2 slots just for is augments! Speaking of chromatic blade, the life steal should already be built into his kit. Kullervo with silence + glaive is stupid. Silence just helps stun enemies passively for 2-3 seconds (which by that time you killed everything). Not to mention it shuts down eximus abilities.
You have the most perfect rework idea for excal , def would be S tier
@@XSoulgamez I really wanna pitch the idea to Pablo, I think it's a really solid idea
You didn’t mention it in the video, but I love using dagath with a weapon platform build. Grave spirit and a damage buff helminth ability is great. With good damage, an armor stripping ability, and invincibility, I’m surprised she didn’t get into at least A tier.
Loved the vid!
@@silver_44 I for sure need to try her with her new augment
Did a small test when it first came out but I know I can make it better
@@keppochuppu I would imagine the issue you'd run into in level cap would be the downtime without invuln, as you can't lower that with stats, so KpM would matter a lot.
@@keppochuppu300% Duration is an absolute game changer and with 2 Glaive throws your back invincible for 30 more seconds, and you can just get creative with the helminth, I usually go wrathful advance or nourish
Also with the Augment removing doom is wayyyy better than removing wryd scythes because Wyrd Scythes is a good viral primer, Slow enemies significantly, and can still spread doom in 3.
Awesome tier list, great detail. Looking forward to the Voruna build video, I just picked her up and interested!
@@MatthewMonk-jn8dr awesome!! I've got a project I need to get out of the way but after that I'll continue working on the voruna video
Can't wait for the Voruna Build Video. Love that frame as well but can't think of a good build
at 1:20:32 you say that there are absolutely better than the epitaph, can you give some recomendations?
@Irenecometa the kompressa, tysis, rattleguts kitgun, cyanex, kuva nukor, tenet cycron, and pox
There's a ton and a ton more but those are what I can think of right now
Anything with a good status chance and good fire rate preferably with an existing element on it is a good option for priming. Secondary encumber is recommended but not needed
curious about the builds you use on mirage and sevagoth to make them viable for level cap, i tend to have massive problems with frames that rely on shield gating via brief respite and cata-shields
@@hottemperz301 I play mirage with pillage and sev with condemn
I'm cooking up a sevagoth video which has a very alternative playstyle to how people are normally playing him !!
@@keppochuppu mirage with pillage sounds very interesting, gonna have to try that at level cap, could you also make a build for voruna and other SS tier frames, i been doing a lot of void cascade recently and kinda struggle around the level cap mark
As someone who typically just does base level steel path, usually only going to cap in Duviri; This is an interesting perspective about the game. You earned a sub, I'm in for the rants
Saryn with subsumed shooting gallery with the augment is great for level cap.
How does the Titania build work? Just slash from dex pixia? Or are we pillage stripping?
You can check out this build here- its awesome th-cam.com/video/VeJ3LTarG2I/w-d-xo.html
very good info here. I feel like there may be a bit of bias, but that's with anything that comes with a tier list. plus, its his video, don't hate.
I fell in love with Voruna recently and I'll be waiting for your build sir
So I just ran a lvl cap Cascade run yesterday with Nezha and to be honest I think he's placed too low on the tierlist here. I don't think he belongs in SS or S, but I think he deserves a spot in A.
His damage vulnerability in combination with a damage subsume or armor strip absolutely let's him put out some serious single target damage. I was running Roar for my run and I was handling the Thrax with ease with only partial strip from the heat proc from Chakram and the corrosive on my Plasmor. I also think he has good group damage because of his 4 augment. When it comes to Halo I do agree that the damage reduction falls off in a lvl cap run, but I do think there are a couple of good points in Halo's favor.
1. The status immunity. Not getting magnetic procs from the Thrax's attacks and having the knockdown immunity is great for surviving.
2. The 3 second invincibility period when you cast. While Halo will not last long health wise nor will the damage reduction help you at high levels, because it pops so easily you can recast and gain any breathing room you may need.
I do agree Halo is worse than Iron Skin simply due to the fact that Iron Skin is a true second health bar vs Halo essentially just being damage reduction.
The other point in Nezha's favor survivability wise is easy shieldgating. Since Chakram gives you a steady supply of energy you can easily run low efficiency. Nezha also has fairly low base shields. Combine that with Catalyzing Shields and Nezha can shield gate in one cast with any of his abilities (maybe not firewalker but you're probably replacing that anyway).
With all these factors combined I think Nezha is a very good frame for lvl cap and lvl cap Cascade. He's not the best nor the best of the best, but a solid choice and good at what he does.
@@FusionRogue This entire argument is kinda redundant when we can use rhino with a non nerfed version of roar and calibans subsume which grants multiplicative dmg vulnerability
You also get a true second health that scales with enemy level
That's why rhino is up there and nezha is not
Something else to consider is that rhinos single target damage also spreads all enemies due to calibans subsume
Rhino just outclassed nezha in nearly every factor
Nezha essentially was a Chinese knockoff of rhino if his kit wasn't a downgraded version of rhinos he would probably be higher
@@keppochuppu Sure, but my point of contention isn't where Rhino is placed. I agree that Rhino is stronger for all the reasons you stated. Your C tier is fairly consistent in terms of frames that have a hard time due to survivability at higher levels even if their damage output is good.
If Halo was Nezha's only survivability tool I could understand the placement more. His CC and damage with spears, status immunity, invincibility period on Halo cast, and the fact that he shield gates well is why I think he doesn't belong there. He doesn't require any more attention to stay alive than your regular shield gate setup at least in my experience.
i ate the whole video and im really waiting on that voruna build you are teasing us, i love the way you talk (you sound like a cool queer man) and i hope to see more of you in the future !
@@banjospiegel I pretty much am a cool queer man tbh LMAO
Voruna build is on its way... Slowly
@@keppochuppu damn sir 😍😍 yeah ofc take your time....... i gotta get nitain extracts first lol
@@banjospiegel XD Always get them from nightwave, farming nitan is fucking brutal
@@keppochuppu you have exactly 3 days left !!!
So where is the damn Voruna video? I don't need it because I take her to level cap a lot but I still want to see more content on her. She was actually my first frame I took to level cap.
Definitely agree about the excal rating I just wish he could stun eximus units or a new passive that you know cements him as a proper melee frame, because he used to be the melee frame
100% He feels very awkward in higher levels :((
I really want the whole knight paladin warframe and excal as is close as it gets. He needs overguard !!
Yo, love this video, gave me a lot of inspiration of what i could build, i would love to see more of this content from you.
Subd. Feels like a breathe of fresh air from other BS wf cc's.
Love the video, i think it would be cool if ud cover some of the warframes and explicitly give builds for vc level cap :) cause i really struggle especially with survivability against higher level enemies
A voruna video will be coming up !
After that I might try to make a harrow video or an ash one, but those are semi overdone so i am not sure if theyll be good additions to the current set of videos on youtube
Ive been playing warframe for 9 years and voruna is already my most played frame by a long shot, I also dont know why she isnt seen more often, she is the best melee frame in the game and one of the most broken ones in general. I really want to see that build video you are cooking, I can already bet half the comments will be kullervo mains ranting why their frame is better than voruna
@@valencs437 she's genuinely so busted in so many ways. Especially with melee afflictions now you can do some disgusting things with toxin and slash on her
Got a quick question: what kind of build do you run on mag? I’m able to solo level cap with her using roar on my 4, but things get dicey for survivability at times once you get around 70+ exolizers.
Do I even need to use a damage subsume? I use exergis for my bubble btw.
@@Super787B mag doesn't need any subsume her kit is perfect
If you are going to subsume something put breach surge or dispensary over her polarize
That's probably WHY you're having issues with survivability, her 5th gives you tons of shields and it armor strips with her augment
@@keppochuppu do you run her augments for her two and three also? I feel like they’re also super necessary, but I have a very tight build since I’m focusing on 175 Efficiency for casting spam.
@@Super787B imo you run nourish over her 1, augment for her 3 and 4, arcane energize and aegis for comfort. You get both viral and armor strip from ur frame so weapon choices are kinda open
@@TeaCx do you run fleeting expertise or just streamline / energy nexus for ability spam?
@@Super787B P flow and equilibrium with synth decon on sentinel. Stack that with nourish and Arcane energize I dont think u can run out of energy. You could try to fit energy nexus for passive regen but theres a point where ur investing too much into energy sustain, losing stats somewhere else.
Go get some betaine HCL with bitters instead of the acid reducers. Most people don't have acid issues It's just the opposite of what they think. I've actually helped hundreds of people like that but the acid reducers they will make the rebound 10 times worse just likely what your experiencing. Then do a parasite cleanse and I would suggest probably just a good herbal. For God's sake don't tell anybody you're doing it because everybody will have a hairy canary. Is it correct way to do the betane and you have to titrate up to you get a warm sensation and back off one capsule per meal but you can read up on that. You can thank me later but I can almost guarantee you that within days If not immediately you're going to notice a big difference.
That said thanks for the video it's very interesting
finally someone speaks about ember w breach surge lmao, add dual ichor and its nuts, theres a certain combo (breach - ult - ichor attacks) that if done in the right timing, it chunks enemies’ health, you just need to hit the ichor attacks before the meteorites land, incarnon form + naramon, a tennokai mod to not lose combo and melee influence give a better result, you can just spam attacks after casting her 4, you should try it, i have done some testing and thats just what i found
@@cuwursed oooo super interesting- Ill for sure test it out
I really just watched this whole thing and actually satisfied, nice vid
Hell friggin yea !!
What happened to your youtube videos? I kept hearing you making videos on this build and that but when i checked your channel, you only have 3 right now. Was looking forward to it since im also a fellow lv cap player and i found your tier list to be almost spot on imo
@@iminglee907 I'm still working on them
I only have 3 videos because I just started, so I'm still learning all the skills you need to make a decent video
Everything I've made has been unscripted so far
I'd like to start editing my videos too but it's kinda hard
@@keppochuppu for an hour and 30 minutes of just talking without a script, it was really well done. Looking forward to that Voruna build eventually!
One thing many people know about Garuda is that some of her abilities scale with "weapon damage" buffs like roar, eclipse, or even nourish- causing them to inflict viral damage. Something people dont know, however, is that you can use arcane arachne and/or naramons lethal levitation to solo buff her damage. With arachne being 150% and levi being 200%, you get 350% base damage on garudas 1 and 4. Add in her 100% multiplicative damage buff passive and she deals 9x damage with her abilities, with her slash procs dealing 18x damage.
I think your build ideas are quite neat! It really does seem like you've got very comfortable experience with a wide variety of these frames in void cascade/level cap. I will say, there are a couple of times where I'd argue you're neglecting other game systems like void keys for easier shield gateing and certain augments/setups for certain frames, but honestly? This is very well put together and you are quite thoughtful while making the list.
I know a lot of people will sorta just dismiss this, but I really feel like you make your reasoning clear for a good amount of frames! Your build ideas are quite thoughtful and I'd love to hear more opinions or build ideas from you! I hope I'll see you in cascade one day or another ^^
Awesome comment!!! I know MOST of the frames very well, some I havent invested much into, but the theory is still there so its fairly easy to judge where they would land
As for void key shield gating- the mod catalyzing shields is better suited for shield gating since the void key will only grant you .33 seconds shield gate while catalyzing gives you 1.33
@@keppochuppu Thanks! And awesome video again, I've been thinking about more setups non-stop since my comment and this video has made me think about more setups.
Since I almost exclusively play support frames, I'm really curious what your level-cap ideas for non-selfish support options in level cap runs. Particularly, what sort of builds were you thinking for Citrine, Jade, and Trinity? (Also harrow in nerf tier is inspired, I love using him for void cascade)
As for the void key, I'd say that it particularly works for equinox (there may be other frames, but she's the one I have the most experience with). Catalyzing shields, though a better option on most frames, is actually worse for her since it takes up a mod slot + doesn't activate full cap with mend active. With a void key, she actually can reach max shield gate and get chip damage for her 3 augment. It's admitedly really niche, but for her specifically? It can make her particularly well suited to CC with silence subsume.
Anyhow, thanks again for so many great ideas! I've been watching through your current videos and god I can't wait to try out Stayanax and tinker with your build.
Based Yareli enjoyer. Damn, this list is good, what the hell? I came here to get angry, damnit.
I will actually advocate for potentially putting Garuda up to SS since the 'everything' part she does well she can do with virtually nothing extra, and having the option to just delete an important target from 40% health remaining is pretty damn good. One could also make the argument that the mass set-and-forget armour strip Protea can do with the Temporal Erosion is also worthy of SS, but that requires using her base 4th which for some reason people hate, even though it gives you on demand invincibility and infinite energy. I guess it's a playstyle thing.
Good content, hope your stomach settles down, hah.
@@Sushou Garuda definitely could make it to SS now I think of it.
Protea though- I KNOW her 4th is really good but FUCK I hate using it
It slows me down so much and i forget to cancel it all the time 😭😭😭
As a Voruna main I'm looking forward to this build of yours :) I m subscribing can't wait
EEEEEE I just started writing the script last night- its gonna have some good lore bits and a very indepth build style
@@keppochuppu Good to hear this :) I'll be waiting and for the part why you don't see a lot of Voruna players the main reason is many don't know how to play her and usually build her as a tank frame instead of a DPS one and then they say that Kullervo is better cause of "survivability"
Caliban and Loki are my mains, I just recently built a insane Ash build that is different than the normal builds
Do you happen to know the name of the video where the guy was showcasing the build of rhino using the aeolak?
I feel like if this is a void cascade specific tier list Trinity should be S or high A because her ev marked for death synergy is really good in it.
I havent tried that synergy yet- Ill look into it !
I cant wait for your Voruna build. Shes my favourite frame so far
First tier list of its kind ive seen 👍
Nyx ia a good warframe, everyone just get her wrong. Instead of building her around ult, you can concentrate on her 2nd and 3rd skill. 3rd skill has insane range and easily covers huge tilesets while 2nd skill casts so fast, casts while reloading, throws banshee stun and armor strip on nearby 9 enemies (with augment) and it even works on eximuses.
Her shieldgate build is so fun
Agreed she should be right in between Frost and Hildryn, since they all do the same thing Armor strip and CC.
i see you put titania in S tier so i want a build solely focused on level cap cascade from you, because i cant do much damage as titania.. please make a cascade video on titania
Ranking valkyr that low is pretty criminal, she is immortal and 1 shots any enemy at level cap before armor reduction
If you can link me a video of valkyr one shotting level cap without any priming at all Ill make a valkyr build guide explaining why im wrong
@@keppochuppu my only experience is me running it myself in level cap disruption pre armor cap, but I was able to 1 shot level cap demos with tennokao, no viral or status priming or armor removal since it just innately does hundreds of millions, with viral and cold priming with no CO I've had it break damage cap also without heavy attack mods. Even then her normal and slide attacks do several million damage too and with how fast she can attack it's superb. I've tried min maxing every single exalted weapon and her perforns amazingly, her only downside is range which gets fixed with nautilus priming things and grouping them
1:33:15 try double tapping 2, life saver shieldgating and s ability and its super spammable
1:33:40 also if you just press wil o wisp it makes you invisible, (indicated by the ember around you) it doesn't only send out a decoy and it can be used as just an invisibility ability by having high duration
@@weelewism8442 yeah when I made the list I completely forgot about it- someone else reminded me this works xD
LOKI SUPREMACY
YEA BABEY
I heard they fixed Banshee being able to armor strip without the augment. Was that not the case? Otherwise, I say she is incredible. Only thing that would hold her back from being S tier on my own personal list is that EVERY. SINGLE. ABILITY. roots you in place when casting. If even half of her abilities could be cast while moving or without interrupting you, she would be meta.
That might be an old bug- been a while since ive tested her xD
Fortunately you can aim glide while you cast, so you arent standing still for too too long, but Id love to see you be able cast while running
grendel i think is actually just a case of you've never seen what he can do, his 4 aoe armour strips and applies a toxin proc that scales to enemy level
good tier list though, i think this is probably the perfect niche to make a tier list for.
Wukong at A tier seen kinda weird, it's the most mobile and fast killing in cascade, literally 1 tap ANYTHING in lvl cap with magistar, including thraxes and accolytes. No other frame can move faster and kill faster than wukong. Also you will be immortal casting cloud and can use any helminth with out worring about energy issues. Also you dont need to get an synergy with any companion, that way you can have smeeta kavat for drops. As you killing with melee, theres a mod who gives overguard to kavat... so you shield gate your kavat = immortal as you are
Counter offer- voruna makes wukong seem weak
How SSS tier is it? Well, you dont even need to primer either armor strip to 1 shot lvl cap
@@keppochuppu i never played garuda before, i would like to see it. If you make a video about, I gonna be there 👊🏼✌🏽
Brooo Vorunaa is so great really, she’s like a melee focused saryn with amazing survivability👌 just chef’s kiss warframe
@@beeleuazevedo8142 she's become my main- just super super strong in every department
I see limbo in S and I immediately love the tier list, even outside of stuff like this he is still good just that people don't realise that most abilities don't care about the rift
@@QuirrelSquad he is really really good at any mission- running silence with him just turns off enemies and it's awesome
As a mirage main I wanna kiss you for understanding my joy. Idk why she's not talked about more
I easily do level cap alone with her
@@hfdgamingftw3615 she's just a distrustingly good weapons platform probably the best in the game beside saryn
Hello, I am just curious about your placement of Grendel, why is he so low in your list? His kit is not built for this particular game mode/level cap?
@@bonelesschickennuggets1868 Grendel has a really hard time surviving, since his obvious answer to survival is health tanking with armor
The unfortunate truth of that is armor tanks just don't hold up at level cap :((
You could do some shield gate setup with him however it's very clunky and in my experience his kit doesn't bode well compared to other frames who have better damage and survivability
@@keppochuppu Thank you for your quick answer, that’s interesting food for thought, I main him for fun but hearing about his weaknesses it’s still very useful.
You think he can’t keep up because of his limitation of having to consume enemies? Or the bonuses he gains from doing so aren’t powerful enough to warrant the extra effort? I must admit having to always keep a full stomach it’s very clunky at times when sh*t hits the fan.
@@bonelesschickennuggets1868 yeah it's a combination of a bunch of things that just makes him hard to operate at high levels
Overguarded units are still affected by 4 stacks of cold. Soo that may help Protea turrets, Frost etc survive/deal damage.
What helminth abilities should use for a level cap build on valkyr? Do I need silence for violence?
@@silver_44 she's good with wrathful advance and xatas whisper. Silence can work too, but you should be able to use Magus lockdown to sleep the acolytes before they become a problem
You put Mirage so high but how exactly do you survive with her? I already struggle solo on base SP so I can't imagine a level cap.
I tried shield gating mods or adaptation or both but that already takes the spot for other good mods and her augments.
How? How do you do it? This was the one thing I wanted to know about Mirage. You kill stuff too quickly? That's the secret? What abilities?
@@Cazarace I run her with a pillage subsume
For some weird reason mirage has a lower base energy cost for all her abilities
Just running mirage with equilibrium will be enough energy to let her shield gate
Plus her clones distract enemies aswell, which is great since like 70% of the time enemies just don't hit you
@@keppochuppu Thanks, I will def try Pillage and equilibrium. I love these channels btw, Warframe is a game so complex that we need information from other veteran players who know the system better. I need to learn how to play the game haha.
voruna my love; build w 4 augment and 2 is so fun .. her whole kit is so good
So so so nice to see someone giving loki the respect he deserves. He is such a massively underrated frame.
I love seeing my goat Harrow so high
Yeah as someone who's played cascades for couple years, I definitely disagree with some of theses.. But each to their own :)
I don't judge this tier list at all. I just wanna know what's best so I can actually farm it and start grinding on lvl cap Aa :D... Tbh. All those who don't think the tier list is good, go make ur own, don't spoil the chats pls.
I'd argue if you can maintain a passive shield gate from bond set then it's the best cause it needs no input and can last for ever unless your companion dies
@@Spambot27374 while that is perfect and it can work but in sticky situations you will just flat out die
love to see the sevagoth appreciation, in general i agree with like 99% of these rankings
@@Jazzimus Hell yea!!!
very nice video. I was a little surprised to see equinox low but I was convinced.
I run low duration terrify over her 1 in order to preserve my transference invulnerability. When my nuke kills everything I can focus on killing thrax without worry...
I think my next run with rolling guard over redirection will be more comfortable but I still do see building charge being a problem
Only came here to see ♡Yareli♡ and I'm glad to see someone not meme on her she's super strong 💪, had to stop playing her for a bit because she make's the game feel too easy😂
@@xYonai ahahah she's really awesome. I need to fully invest in her, I used to have archon shards but I pulled them off for another build
I also recommend looking into mesa again. The tools she has access to now is insane and im fairly certain you can shield gait with nourish, brief respite and catalyzing shields
@@myramedchan4775 While that can keep you alive- I find that shield gating like that will kill your energy- vazarin would be better in that case but it's not viable for void cascade
I only tend to use energy conversion mods if you have an ability that can help you get out of the bad situation or if it grants you over guard
@@keppochuppu she has 90%Dr on her 3 and a stun on her 2 with equilibrium and a halfway decent pet and nourish both boosting energy and damage I haven't had an issue. I typically use her for disruption so I don't see why she couldn't do well in cascade. Especially if it's in a group.
@@myramedchan4775 90% means nothing at level cap :/ especially when a blitz eximus can deal 1 billion damage in a single attack
Even 99% dr isn't good at level cap either
You'd need to be at 99.98% to tank effectively at levels like that
@keppochuppu I think you can get that with her. Especially with the equinox subsume rework and she is really good with archon vitality (extra hp and double heat from her regulators. Like I said, the tools she has access to now are insane.
@keppochuppu also of note secondary outburst works on her pistols and a couple of the bond mods are godly for her. (Unfortunately I'm still trying to find a companion that can proc reinforced and tenacious while still being an effective sinth deconstruct user.) And while it would take a bit of setup furax has an amalgam mod for pistols and access to mele crescendo for easy maxed outburst (I tend to use ceramic dagger but mostly because the crechendo build up takes a minute or too and I typically don't stay longer than 2hrs.)
hi is the Voruna build coming up soon? 🥰🥰🥰