I just found your blog this morning “Watch this before you sell” and started watching it. I am now watching “What do you fear most”. This is an excellent vlog and raises numerous thoughts on long term sailing. My wife and I did what these vlogs are addressing 25 years ago and I think we were blessed to not have been blinded by stories of “Golden Sunsets”. We bought our 1st boat in 1990 while in the Detroit area of the Great Lakes and we’re members of a sailing club. Virtually every member of that club had dreams of long term sailing when they retired as we also dreamed. The boat we had was a 37’ monohull that was 12 years old and had been owned by a prosperous couple that maintained and outfitted the boat well. As time went by I read and absorbed sailing information from any sailing periodicals available at that time in which all told only of “”Golden Sunsets and Sundowners” what wasn’t highlighted were the opposite side of a sailing adventure. We were blessed by knowing a couple who had been sailors for years, had retired well and who had worked for months to outfit their vessel into the “perfect” retirement abode. After all boxes had been checked they set out for the long dreamed sailing life fulfilling the dreams long held of routing themselves through the St Lawrence Seaway then south toward Florida. After several weeks of their travels when the reality of the sailing life was realized, and their arrival to the Boston area, the Captain decided this was not the ideal life his imagination had produced and he desired to returned to his previous life. He had not seen the constant Repair, maintenance, and additional expense this dream had required. Fortunately, my wife and I were privy to these realities, despite the information that was available through normal channels for the enthusiast and dreamer. Even then, and forewarned, we still wore rose colored glasses. We still dreamed of going sailing “when we retired”. One late Saturday night, while laying in my bunk aboard our vessel and still reading and absorbing dreams of going sailing, the thought of the possibility of leaving the “dock” that very night to go sailing crossed my mind and I played that possibility constantly coming to the realization that the boat would float, the motor would run and the reality that the only thing that prevented us from doing it was our own insecurities. As additional weeks passed and active awareness of real life occurred around us, we found that the things that held us back until “a better time” were only illusions. Life guaranteed us nothing! Business success could change in an instant, health and prosperity were only imaginary. “Stuff”we had acquired and owned was really only imaginary, that the reality was we didn’t own that “stuff”, it really owned us. We realized that “Life” was a gamble and we decided that we would pursue that dream. I now look back on that time and feel blessed that the risk taken at that time and our ignorance of the realities of the risks taken were a blessing. I realize that the time on our “sabbatical” was priceless based on any return on investment was concerned and memories that still remain deeply imbedded in my mind, 25 years later, we’re still paying dividends and would until my last day on this earth. I found that there is no ideal time to do this, there is no ideal vessel. I have found that the fears that everyone ask, “did you have any bad weather”, “were you ever scared”, were you scared of “pirates” are all figments of the imagination and are the things that prevent taking the risk. We found that the realities of these same things are the things that make them worthwhile and fulfill the sense of accomplishment. No! We never saw any pirates, yes, we did have bad weather but never “scared” because we were busy “saving our asses” until later when is a more relaxed time we could look back and review “lessons learned”. The vlogs presently on “TH-cam” as a rule still gloss over the realities of taking the “leap”. Even now, I struggle to remember the boredom, constant maintenance of my “city” afloat where I am responsible for ALL of the departments a city has, escaped me until I am reminded by tour real vlogs. Your vlogs and your raising the questions in your titles are the most honest presentations for “doing” it again. Thank you!!
Thanks for the note. It is a transformative venture, is it not? Whether it goes well or not....we've experienced both....regardless it's impossible to see life in the same way once you've gone for it and had those experiences. And maybe that's why it draws us back over and over? I don't know. But it does. See you out there.
@@TheOKellys I wish we could see you out there but as you know sailing is also a cooperative adventure that requires a good 2nd mate or “Admiral”, as I call her. As we’ve gotten older, my wife in her mid 70’s and I in my late 70’s probably have missed additional opportunities. I’m confident I could continue but I’ve watched my wife slow down physically and don’t wish to push her at this point in our lives. All is not lost as I still have memories almost to the day of activities we were blessed with. 25 years ago we were going into Lake Michigan to begin the River portion of the “Great Loop” and 24 years ago we had completed that loop and returned to Michigan to get back in the treadmill as I had begun to miss the activity business ventures brought as well as the income it provided. If the opportunities of You Tube had existed at that time, we would have probably stayed a little longer but the Lord allowed us “our” time both to leave and return. I will content to follow your adventures. Incidentally, we are the Kelly’s and by ancient chance May be related in some way from the “old” country. I wish y’all fair winds and calm seas, but know that won’t always occur.
I was a proud owner of an almost 100 year old Latina sail small boat back in Barcelona. I live in Mexico now and thanks to you and Sugar I think my wife and my 2 dogs are nearly convinced to jump aboard a new lifestyle. Now looking for a good boat!
Pushed into the ocean…I learned to sail dinghys in a bay, close to a narrow inlet between Avalon and Sea Isle City, NJ. Most kids started sailing around ages 8 to 10. The outgoing tide flow could get to 5 knots. On light wind days, the major fear of us junior sailers was getting swept out into the ocean. The bridge between the towns was the looming archway to disaster!
MOB…back in the mid 1990s, a friend was hired w 2 others to sail an owner’s boat from Hawaii to Portland, OR. They encountered a storm that sank 2 freighters. It took him a full hour to relay the tale. They had: electrical failures (lost nav and radio); a fire in the cabin that seriously burned one of the crew; the rudder was lost (used a cabinet door lashed to the spinnaker pole to steer); and at night the crew person on watch fell overboard, dragged for about 45 minutes before the others found her missing from deck and pulled her back in. They made it to the Oregon coast before encountering another craft who gave assistance. It was hair raising to hear.
Good stuff, great vid! ..On the dighy outboard I do however recommend pulling out gently the ”loose” starter rope before doing the ”engine start pull” ..the rope will thank you each time by keeping in one piece :)
Me too. Outboard engine died on me couple of times. Once with high river current, far from the shore and at night. Plus I forgot to bring my VHF radio and my cell phone. And my paddle gear broke. It was terrifying. I was crying for help in the dark. By God’s grace I got rescued. I also lived through a hurricane. Had to be rescued from my boat and my boat got damaged from it. I am still afraid of the storms. Even if you hide in safer areas if it’s a big storm, everything is possible.
I have a non-nautical lightning story. Lightning struck my cousin's apartment building near Boston. It blasted through the wall, severing an 8" section of copper plumbing and shot it across her bedroom and embedded in the wall right over the headboard of her bed, about 4 feet above where she lay sleeping. It had gone through the plaster and stuck deep into the underlying stud sticking straight out. The wall all around the pipe was scorched. It didn't catch fire, but she did wet the bed...and she was 35 at the time, hehe. Thanks you guys. Love this channel
@@TheOKellys I agree in the aftermath of either event. However fire can be suppressed if you are fast enough and have enough fire extinguishers, automatic fire suppression in the engine bay(s). On the other hand you can make your boat less receptacle to lightning strikes, it still happens more then boat fires.
@@TheOKellys Would love a reference for that to learn more. Its a conundrum. If you ground the boat then you are raising the ground potential closer to the clouds. If you do not ground the boat and it gets hit, it presents higher resistance- more resistance in an electrical circuit means more heat. Looking at a boat that has a chain hanging from bridge deck under the carbon fiber mast, into the water, connects all the way to lightning rod on top of mast. One of them was hit by lightning, had electronics get destroyed, but not the mast.
A reference to "there is no sound science?" LOL. Right after we started doing videos, I attempted to make a video about lightning. Statistics on where, what kinds of boats, equipment, how to avoid, how to diminish effects. I interviewed three surveyors and two yard managers and I gave up. There are too many factors at play and the science is incomplete. For example, in some cases you can see how current "chose" ground through a grounding plate, but in another case you can see where it chose to go through the engine when a ground plate was installed....cases where all electronics aboard were destroyed when lightning struck the water nearby....cases where a small powerboat was struck next to sailboat. Dissipators, grounding, hull material, you can present whatever EE science you want to but there are broad exceptions to every rule. Heck we know of a L46 virtually identical to Clarity that has been struck twice. We have so far not had a strike that we know of and we have been in too many lightning storms to count.
You organize your video so well I'm, ashamed of my attempts. Being retired doesn't seem to give you the time to fulfill any schedule to work out some progress. I have watched an endless number of videos trying to get a hold of excellent information on sailing. Just a very few have attracted me to spend my valuable time watching. Your one.
Well guys there are some things that could help your fears like small faraday cages, use of Plastic type through holes and conductors to bottom earth plates, and don't trust any sharks. The rest is mainly common sense (which is lacking sometimes). Also I think as singers you make great sailors. Much love.. cheers 🍻🍺
Nick ya left out one major fear or emergency, running out of COFFEE!! I really appreciate your pearls of meteorology and would love to see and hear more. Thanks
Our catamaran aka SV Kakamora was hit by lighting with its previous owner. The damage has been repaired to the hull but we have done a full restore on the interior components. As a retired firefighter. My priority is safety. For Annette and I and Kakamora. Everyday is a day to inspect and protect. 🤙🏼
Can't agree with your list more, being away from hard things is the best place for a boat of any kind. Kolohe lost a prop as we were coming into a marina, one of the worst days on the boat. Weather, Containers, and Sharks are to be respected but not feared. Lightening has struck within 100 feet of the boat while the helm was manned (of course) and that was SCARY but we got lucky having no damage. Lightening would be my number one since you can't predict it really (CAPE helps some) and trying to avoid would keep you from moving A LOT when there isn't a practical risk. I would put them in a different order but there is a commonality of fears/type of fears that the crew of Kolohe focus on.
Meghan referenced how she hates rolling at anchor. Have you tried a bridle when the swell and wind don’t align? Just twist the bow into the swell w the wind on your beam.
Yellow Bank, coral heads and clouds and those shallow spots eeeek...no doubt! We just went through there 3 weeks ago. We'd love to meet you in November if you are there! Getting our New Bali 4.2 delivered there and plan on staying for a while to play on it. Love your videos!
Nice vid, guys. I'd just like to add: re lightening - Not just through holes can be blown, a bolt can put a hole in the hull: as happened to Sailing into Freedom ( this vid tells his story th-cam.com/video/Df-XCtfU9kw/w-d-xo.html includes Bull Shark too) . To protect your boat from strike, there are some means to do that such as "Dissipaters" at the mast head linked to copper braid and a hull plate of not less than a foot square. To help equalize the ions in the atmosphere, reducing strike chance and if struck the charge runs down the copper braid and grounds via the plate. Love n Hugs, stay safe.
if you watch Saiiling into Freedom, link in above comment, you'll get hooked. On par with Delos early days. The experience Peter had with his lightning strike is spread over about 6 parts and is truly riveting. He was alone on board. I watched last night and couldn't stop till he was out of the mess which lasted a good 10+ days, including being surrounded by bull sharks while filling the hole under his prop with epoxy in the dark.
Saw the effects of a dry-docked 50' fiberglass cruiser on fire. From a mile away the smoke was so large and thick I thought the marina's diesel tanks were on fire. It took 12 hours to put out...and that was with it surrounded by fire trucks. On land. So yeah, fire is bad. I have video somewhere.
How many of those 8 lightening strikes were at the dock or keel touching bottom? In 45 years these are the only cases i know of where lightening hit the boat. ie dont ground yourself electrically. Also, be careful how you rig chain anchors, so they don’t ground you electrically (we connect chain anchor to heavy line so metal chain doesn’t touch boat at anchor)
Thank you, very informative. i would be terrified of sinking or loosing an engine, okay a/c, fridge, food, coffee, water, well just about everything I guess
G'day from a sunny Sydney. Thx for an awesome episode as usual. My biggest fear would be one of us getting seriously ill...like a heart attack or appendix!!! I pray it never happens to you guys. ODAAT.
I am worried… Surely running out of tacos would have been fear #1 Mr. Nick and I recon this is the first video in a long time where there were no mention of tacos let alone a taco t-shirt. Love the show despite the snubbing of tacos
I so enjoy your videos each week, I wish other channels were as good at this as the two of you are. Your good mood and sense of humor are contagious, plus, you always provide quality, well-thought-out information :-) BTW, ...You are in my old stomping grounds now, near the Swimming Hall of Fame on Ft Lauderdale beach. I used to live near where you are now docked. Enjoy your stay. Good Sushi restaurants on Las Olas!
Interesting that getting caught out in a Gale / storm not mentioned. Goes to show how sea kindly a modern cat is. In a mono, getting cold and exhausted is a real issue. Mind you in a lot f those cruising cats, with a huge windage, clawing off a lee shore may be an issue, especially if you can’t rely on your engines.
Great video. According to the Coast Guard, fire on board is number 1. That said, preparation and developing habits to avoid problems encompasses everything. Be vigilant, be prepared, and know what to do in an emergency. Fair winds. Elsa should kiss Florida as well.
LLaugh, but practical cooking onboard, managing food, is a topic that needs an in depth look. Access to propane, fuel alcohol or do you go electric? What fruits and vegetables last in a sea environment?
Water coolant engine hose blew spewing continuous water flowing into the bilge, couldnt cut off engine to stop water until clear of oncoming, deployed 80 foot shrimper in the pass of out going tide...my legs were shaking for 20 minutes until tow collected us.
It's an amazing and gratifying thing, to watch you guys use your "weather man" personas, while also conveying useful information along with some self deprecating humor, and miraculously not coming off as a bunch of pricks (and that applies equally to all professions, because the sea has a way of humbling us all)! Serious note, it takes a certain kind of yin and yang when the demands of life are 24/7 and subject to the tide level. I stand watch, you make eggs; you retrieve the anchor chain, I make sure we don't run aground. THAT is teamwork, and it's a beautiful thing to see (plus, "babe, it wasn't my fault, the winds were blowing from the NW and if you didn't put that bumper out we were going to damage the boat!"). So women are like the sea, and men are like boats. See? Perfect harmony! 😆
Since you are talking about fears in your video, I have to ask, you entered the anchorage at high noon dodging coral heads but then you left it at night?
I always have to make a plate of food before watching your clips. Since I always get hungry when I see what you made this time;) Keep up the good work.;)
Another eye-opening video, Nick and Megan! ❤ Situational awareness is a must for all aspects you two covered. Hey Megan...prison ships?...REALLY!?....don't give 'em any IDEAS...PLEASE! 😘 Nice music Nick. 😉
Great escape, thank you. I’m sitting here in a damn hospital bed and for a moment, I was back at sea. I agree with your list, by the way but would add injury at sea.
Good question. Standard practice has historically been to scuttle them if possible. However a lot of modern catamarans have cored hulls making them buoyant or neutrally buoyant, so scuttling doesn't work so well. If there is an insurance company involved, they will typically try to have it towed as to limit further liability. If the vessel is simply "lost" at sea, they can bob around for years riding the currents. That it sometimes takes years to find them again is a testament to exactly what we say in the video: the ocean is a very big thing.
I would not be happy sailing on a boat that relied on electric winches to work everything. Not only lightening, but also the unreliability of electrics and boats. Can you raise anchor and sails by human power when you may need to?
Hmmmm, interesting question. Yes, sometimes, but not always for the reason you might think. And I really hate generalizations like All Production Cats....that doesn’t reflect reality. All of the big three make some models that are stiffer than others. And some very expensive big semi custom boats make noise as well. I’ve been on an Outremer that was fairly creek-y. The noise can come from a lot of places on any boat but here are some non-rigging sources: tabbing, bulkheads, stringers, windows and hull-deck joints. Movement here is a bad bad thing, obviously....and there are a few designs out there that have these sorts of problems. I am not going to get into that. Another much more innocuous source is the interior cabinetry, countertops, shelves, doors, etc. Fiberglass is flexible....that’s a good thing....makes it resilient....and the modules and accommodations of any boat are either glassed to the structure of the boat or mounted with glues, tabs, screws, etc. All of these joints flex at different rates than the hull structure. Some production boats,or even models from the same builder have more floating modules and are mounted and attached with varying strength. I can’t make any broad statements about which has more and which has less. It depends....The last category of squeaks, groans, chirps, moans, and other annoyances comes from a source that very much IS common to the big three producers, but ALSO common to SOME fairly high end cats. And that source are the (often removable) ceiling headliners and wall panels that hide the through-deck mounts, the water and electrical services, aircon vents, etc. These panels are often made of very light plywood and covered in some sort of thick upholstery material. These can change shape with varying temperature and humidity and swell and shrink and MAKE NOISE. Higher end boats often (not always) have finished ceilings or mostly finished ceilings and don’t suffer as much from this kind of noise. Also of note, boats do flex more and make more noise as they age. And this is not NECESSARILY some sort of “build quality” issue. There are super yachts costing as much as a small city that flex so much underway that doors are stuck open or shut.
I just found your blog this morning “Watch this before you sell” and started watching it. I am now watching “What do you fear most”. This is an excellent vlog and raises numerous thoughts on long term sailing.
My wife and I did what these vlogs are addressing 25 years ago and I think we were blessed to not have been blinded by stories of “Golden Sunsets”. We bought our 1st boat in 1990 while in the Detroit area of the Great Lakes and we’re members of a sailing club. Virtually every member of that club had dreams of long term sailing when they retired as we also dreamed. The boat we had was a 37’ monohull that was 12 years old and had been owned by a prosperous couple that maintained and outfitted the boat well. As time went by I read and absorbed sailing information from any sailing periodicals available at that time in which all told only of “”Golden Sunsets and Sundowners” what wasn’t highlighted were the opposite side of a sailing adventure. We were blessed by knowing a couple who had been sailors for years, had retired well and who had worked for months to outfit their vessel into the “perfect” retirement abode. After all boxes had been checked they set out for the long dreamed sailing life fulfilling the dreams long held of routing themselves through the St Lawrence Seaway then south toward Florida. After several weeks of their travels when the reality of the sailing life was realized, and their arrival to the Boston area, the Captain decided this was not the ideal life his imagination had produced and he desired to returned to his previous life. He had not seen the constant Repair, maintenance, and additional expense this dream had required. Fortunately, my wife and I were privy to these realities, despite the information that was available through normal channels for the enthusiast and dreamer. Even then, and forewarned, we still wore rose colored glasses. We still dreamed of going sailing “when we retired”.
One late Saturday night, while laying in my bunk aboard our vessel and still reading and absorbing dreams of going sailing, the thought of the possibility of leaving the “dock” that very night to go sailing crossed my mind and I played that possibility constantly coming to the realization that the boat would float, the motor would run and the reality that the only thing that prevented us from doing it was our own insecurities.
As additional weeks passed and active awareness of real life occurred around us, we found that the things that held us back until “a better time” were only illusions. Life guaranteed us nothing! Business success could change in an instant, health and prosperity were only imaginary. “Stuff”we had acquired and owned was really only imaginary, that the reality was we didn’t own that “stuff”, it really owned us. We realized that “Life” was a gamble and we decided that we would pursue that dream.
I now look back on that time and feel blessed that the risk taken at that time and our ignorance of the realities of the risks taken were a blessing. I realize that the time on our “sabbatical” was priceless based on any return on investment was concerned and memories that still remain deeply imbedded in my mind, 25 years later, we’re still paying dividends and would until my last day on this earth.
I found that there is no ideal time to do this, there is no ideal vessel. I have found that the fears that everyone ask, “did you have any bad weather”, “were you ever scared”, were you scared of “pirates” are all figments of the imagination and are the things that prevent taking the risk. We found that the realities of these same things are the things that make them worthwhile and fulfill the sense of accomplishment. No! We never saw any pirates, yes, we did have bad weather but never “scared” because we were busy “saving our asses” until later when is a more relaxed time we could look back and review “lessons learned”.
The vlogs presently on “TH-cam” as a rule still gloss over the realities of taking the “leap”. Even now, I struggle to remember the boredom, constant maintenance of my “city” afloat where I am responsible for ALL of the departments a city has, escaped me until I am reminded by tour real vlogs. Your vlogs and your raising the questions in your titles are the most honest presentations for “doing” it again. Thank you!!
Thanks for the note. It is a transformative venture, is it not? Whether it goes well or not....we've experienced both....regardless it's impossible to see life in the same way once you've gone for it and had those experiences. And maybe that's why it draws us back over and over? I don't know. But it does. See you out there.
@@TheOKellys I wish we could see you out there but as you know sailing is also a cooperative adventure that requires a good 2nd mate or “Admiral”, as I call her. As we’ve gotten older, my wife in her mid 70’s and I in my late 70’s probably have missed additional opportunities. I’m confident I could continue but I’ve watched my wife slow down physically and don’t wish to push her at this point in our lives. All is not lost as I still have memories almost to the day of activities we were blessed with. 25 years ago we were going into Lake Michigan to begin the River portion of the “Great Loop” and 24 years ago we had completed that loop and returned to Michigan to get back in the treadmill as I had begun to miss the activity business ventures brought as well as the income it provided. If the opportunities of You Tube had existed at that time, we would have probably stayed a little longer but the Lord allowed us “our” time both to leave and return. I will content to follow your adventures.
Incidentally, we are the Kelly’s and by ancient chance May be related in some way from the “old” country.
I wish y’all fair winds and calm seas, but know that won’t always occur.
Reading my ASA101 manual while this plays. Your videos are among the reasons I've started quest to start sailing. Thanks!
I love it. See you out there.
@@TheOKellys Goldenmotors. , Electric ⚡️, and solar. And it’s cheap.
@@TheOKellys ... th-cam.com/video/udSiluTAOaQ/w-d-xo.html .. Male babies get killed of birth🐣🐥🐣🔴😈.
One of the best most thought out sailing information videos that a beginning sailor like myself really needs! Thank you both for being so empathetic
Nick is always so happy when Megan has a plate of food for him 😸
Sounds exactly like my husband hehe
love to see you two back! Great video thank you!
I was a proud owner of an almost 100 year old Latina sail small boat back in Barcelona. I live in Mexico now and thanks to you and Sugar I think my wife and my 2 dogs are nearly convinced to jump aboard a new lifestyle. Now looking for a good boat!
As an extra means of propulsion, you could consider a small steppable sail for the dinghy.
Love know what to be concerned about and what to chill out about. Thank you!
Yay! It's always a treat when yall upload! I have to admit though, it's bittersweet to see you leave the Bahamas.
We agree! And thank you for the kind words
Thanks for a Really Good Show 🤠. It is good to see someone with a cat that actually uses the sails and not the motors. Happy Trails ☕☕
Good topic. Thank you for the video.
Pushed into the ocean…I learned to sail dinghys in a bay, close to a narrow inlet between Avalon and Sea Isle City, NJ. Most kids started sailing around ages 8 to 10. The outgoing tide flow could get to 5 knots. On light wind days, the major fear of us junior sailers was getting swept out into the ocean. The bridge between the towns was the looming archway to disaster!
MOB…back in the mid 1990s, a friend was hired w 2 others to sail an owner’s boat from Hawaii to Portland, OR. They encountered a storm that sank 2 freighters. It took him a full hour to relay the tale. They had: electrical failures (lost nav and radio); a fire in the cabin that seriously burned one of the crew; the rudder was lost (used a cabinet door lashed to the spinnaker pole to steer); and at night the crew person on watch fell overboard, dragged for about 45 minutes before the others found her missing from deck and pulled her back in. They made it to the Oregon coast before encountering another craft who gave assistance. It was hair raising to hear.
Good stuff, great vid! ..On the dighy outboard I do however recommend pulling out gently the ”loose” starter rope before doing the ”engine start pull” ..the rope will thank you each time by keeping in one piece :)
Me too. Outboard engine died on me couple of times. Once with high river current, far from the shore and at night. Plus I forgot to bring my VHF radio and my cell phone. And my paddle gear broke. It was terrifying. I was crying for help in the dark. By God’s grace I got rescued. I also lived through a hurricane. Had to be rescued from my boat and my boat got damaged from it. I am still afraid of the storms. Even if you hide in safer areas if it’s a big storm, everything is possible.
Yeh, the dinghy is vulnerable for a bunch of reasons. We have definitely forgotten the VHF a number of times. Glad you are OK
I have a non-nautical lightning story. Lightning struck my cousin's apartment building near Boston. It blasted through the wall, severing an 8" section of copper plumbing and shot it across her bedroom and embedded in the wall right over the headboard of her bed, about 4 feet above where she lay sleeping. It had gone through the plaster and stuck deep into the underlying stud sticking straight out. The wall all around the pipe was scorched. It didn't catch fire, but she did wet the bed...and she was 35 at the time, hehe.
Thanks you guys. Love this channel
WOAHHHHHHHHHH! That's crazy!
I'd put lightning on number one but I agree with your responsible fears.
It's a tossup. But fire is sooooo hard to recover from, where lightning is a greater threat but also you can survive it a lot easier.
@@TheOKellys I agree in the aftermath of either event. However fire can be suppressed if you are fast enough and have enough fire extinguishers, automatic fire suppression in the engine bay(s). On the other hand you can make your boat less receptacle to lightning strikes, it still happens more then boat fires.
There is no sound science or data on products, designs, or procedures for making a fiberglass boat less susceptible to lightning strikes.
@@TheOKellys Would love a reference for that to learn more. Its a conundrum. If you ground the boat then you are raising the ground potential closer to the clouds. If you do not ground the boat and it gets hit, it presents higher resistance- more resistance in an electrical circuit means more heat.
Looking at a boat that has a chain hanging from bridge deck under the carbon fiber mast, into the water, connects all the way to lightning rod on top of mast. One of them was hit by lightning, had electronics get destroyed, but not the mast.
A reference to "there is no sound science?" LOL. Right after we started doing videos, I attempted to make a video about lightning. Statistics on where, what kinds of boats, equipment, how to avoid, how to diminish effects. I interviewed three surveyors and two yard managers and I gave up. There are too many factors at play and the science is incomplete. For example, in some cases you can see how current "chose" ground through a grounding plate, but in another case you can see where it chose to go through the engine when a ground plate was installed....cases where all electronics aboard were destroyed when lightning struck the water nearby....cases where a small powerboat was struck next to sailboat. Dissipators, grounding, hull material, you can present whatever EE science you want to but there are broad exceptions to every rule. Heck we know of a L46 virtually identical to Clarity that has been struck twice. We have so far not had a strike that we know of and we have been in too many lightning storms to count.
My biggest fear was running out of beer and whisky. Never let it happen, I am a responsible captain.
another great video, I look forward to this every week! cheers
You organize your video so well I'm, ashamed of my attempts. Being retired doesn't seem to give you the time to fulfill any schedule to work out some progress. I have watched an endless number of videos trying to get a hold of excellent information on sailing. Just a very few have attracted me to spend my valuable time watching. Your one.
That's very kind of you. Appreciate it.
Well guys there are some things that could help your fears like small faraday cages, use of Plastic type through holes and conductors to bottom earth plates, and don't trust any sharks. The rest is mainly common sense (which is lacking sometimes). Also I think as singers you make great sailors. Much love.. cheers 🍻🍺
Nick ya left out one major fear or emergency, running out of COFFEE!! I really appreciate your pearls of meteorology and would love to see and hear more. Thanks
Our catamaran aka SV Kakamora was hit by lighting with its previous owner. The damage has been repaired to the hull but we have done a full restore on the interior components. As a retired firefighter. My priority is safety. For Annette and I and Kakamora. Everyday is a day to inspect and protect. 🤙🏼
Thank you
Wow wow wow you guys are amazing another great video super interesting learn so much what a journey you are on in life!!!
As a hopeful Cat sailor I found this episode to be very helpful. Some of my irrational fears were addressed. Thank you for sharing your journey.
Good stuff! Hope you have a great time in Florida!
Thank you, definitely a much needed video and very educational
Absolutely loving the videos you two are putting out. Perfect for a couple dreaming of getting out there.
Thanks Wes. And we love your movies....lol....I'm sure you've never heard that one before....lol
Can't agree with your list more, being away from hard things is the best place for a boat of any kind. Kolohe lost a prop as we were coming into a marina, one of the worst days on the boat. Weather, Containers, and Sharks are to be respected but not feared. Lightening has struck within 100 feet of the boat while the helm was manned (of course) and that was SCARY but we got lucky having no damage. Lightening would be my number one since you can't predict it really (CAPE helps some) and trying to avoid would keep you from moving A LOT when there isn't a practical risk. I would put them in a different order but there is a commonality of fears/type of fears that the crew of Kolohe focus on.
Very interesting. You covered a lot of things I was curious about. Loving your channel.
Meghan referenced how she hates rolling at anchor. Have you tried a bridle when the swell and wind don’t align? Just twist the bow into the swell w the wind on your beam.
Sailing is a bunch of what ifs!!
Great info as usual! Looking forward to meeting you along your journey.
hope so!
Excellent vlog thank you
Your vlogs have become so pleasing to watch. Informative, creative, scenic. thanks so much!
Glad you like them!
Nice! That fish eye camera footage is so cool!
Yellow Bank, coral heads and clouds and those shallow spots eeeek...no doubt! We just went through there 3 weeks ago. We'd love to meet you in November if you are there! Getting our New Bali 4.2 delivered there and plan on staying for a while to play on it. Love your videos!
I like the Portland commercial
Nice vid, guys. I'd just like to add: re lightening - Not just through holes can be blown, a bolt can put a hole in the hull: as happened to Sailing into Freedom ( this vid tells his story th-cam.com/video/Df-XCtfU9kw/w-d-xo.html includes Bull Shark too) . To protect your boat from strike, there are some means to do that such as "Dissipaters" at the mast head linked to copper braid and a hull plate of not less than a foot square. To help equalize the ions in the atmosphere, reducing strike chance and if struck the charge runs down the copper braid and grounds via the plate. Love n Hugs, stay safe.
if you watch Saiiling into Freedom, link in above comment, you'll get hooked. On par with Delos early days. The experience Peter had with his lightning strike is spread over about 6 parts and is truly riveting. He was alone on board. I watched last night and couldn't stop till he was out of the mess which lasted a good 10+ days, including being surrounded by bull sharks while filling the hole under his prop with epoxy in the dark.
Nice. Hope Megan's ear is A-Okay? Thanks for the tips of sailing hazards. 👍😎👍
She's gonna be alright. Update coming real soon.
Saw the effects of a dry-docked 50' fiberglass cruiser on fire. From a mile away the smoke was so large and thick I thought the marina's diesel tanks were on fire. It took 12 hours to put out...and that was with it surrounded by fire trucks. On land. So yeah, fire is bad. I have video somewhere.
How many of those 8 lightening strikes were at the dock or keel touching bottom? In 45 years these are the only cases i know of where lightening hit the boat. ie dont ground yourself electrically. Also, be careful how you rig chain anchors, so they don’t ground you electrically (we connect chain anchor to heavy line so metal chain doesn’t touch boat at anchor)
Saw that you rely on Aquamap in the Bahamas , mostly ? Do rely on other ones too ? Great video, by the way !⛵️👍
My wife and I absolutely love your videos ,Always fun and informative!!!
Awesome! Thank you!
Thank you, very informative. i would be terrified of sinking or loosing an engine, okay a/c, fridge, food, coffee, water, well just about everything I guess
#1 Fear: Running out of coffee!
curious- Have you ever used the drone to assist entering reefs & shallows?
Oh yes, many times
G'day from a sunny Sydney. Thx for an awesome episode as usual. My biggest fear would be one of us getting seriously ill...like a heart attack or appendix!!! I pray it never happens to you guys. ODAAT.
12:37 I got a bit seasick while cooking underway, couldn't even eat anything... luckily the crew was fed while I was down....
I am worried…
Surely running out of tacos would have been fear #1 Mr. Nick and I recon this is the first video in a long time where there were no mention of tacos let alone a taco t-shirt.
Love the show despite the snubbing of tacos
LOL. Never snub the tacos again! LOL
Great having you guys back great show as usual
I so enjoy your videos each week, I wish other channels were as good at this as the two of you are. Your good mood and sense of humor are contagious, plus, you always provide quality, well-thought-out information :-) BTW, ...You are in my old stomping grounds now, near the Swimming Hall of Fame on Ft Lauderdale beach. I used to live near where you are now docked. Enjoy your stay. Good Sushi restaurants on Las Olas!
You aren't kidding! We had the best sushi in ......years the other day, right off 17th across from the hardware store. Amazing!
Great video, thank you guys 😃
Where is the camera mounted and what cam is it?
Your best yet.
I'd have my safety harness on whenever out on deck. If you happen to start over the side, you at least have a chance to clip to something.
Hi guys..wondered if you can help..cant get into my cabin! Something heavy behind the door? Any ideas??
Great video! Glad you guys made it back to Portland in time to miss the awful heat of the east coast in summer! ;o)
Thank you so much Peter, we learned our lesson!
Great content on "fears" thank you.
Very well presented!
I love all the Por Que No schwag.
It's not just me when we have to go to public places who forgets my mask as a politician. Thank you for this video and have a good week.
Interesting that getting caught out in a Gale / storm not mentioned. Goes to show how sea kindly a modern cat is.
In a mono, getting cold and exhausted is a real issue.
Mind you in a lot f those cruising cats, with a huge windage, clawing off a lee shore may be an issue, especially if you can’t rely on your engines.
Great video. According to the Coast Guard, fire on board is number 1. That said, preparation and developing habits to avoid problems encompasses everything. Be vigilant, be prepared, and know what to do in an emergency. Fair winds. Elsa should kiss Florida as well.
As always, great video .. with subtitles !
LLaugh, but practical cooking onboard, managing food, is a topic that needs an in depth look. Access to propane, fuel alcohol or do you go electric? What fruits and vegetables last in a sea environment?
Water coolant engine hose blew spewing continuous water flowing into the bilge, couldnt cut off engine to stop water until clear of oncoming, deployed 80 foot shrimper in the pass of out going tide...my legs were shaking for 20 minutes until tow collected us.
It's an amazing and gratifying thing, to watch you guys use your "weather man" personas, while also conveying useful information along with some self deprecating humor, and miraculously not coming off as a bunch of pricks (and that applies equally to all professions, because the sea has a way of humbling us all)!
Serious note, it takes a certain kind of yin and yang when the demands of life are 24/7 and subject to the tide level. I stand watch, you make eggs; you retrieve the anchor chain, I make sure we don't run aground. THAT is teamwork, and it's a beautiful thing to see (plus, "babe, it wasn't my fault, the winds were blowing from the NW and if you didn't put that bumper out we were going to damage the boat!").
So women are like the sea, and men are like boats. See? Perfect harmony! 😆
Thank you, and we agree on all those points. Harmony is always the way, isn't it?
One thing Nick need not fear is starving while Megan is near! Always great content guys. Hope you had a nice 4th of July. Tim and Tammie
Happy 4th to you!
Best wishes and happy holiday from Montana !
What about pirates?!!!!??? Lol. Our landlubber friends first question was always about pirates ☠️
Nicely done guys!
Since you are talking about fears in your video, I have to ask, you entered the anchorage at high noon dodging coral heads but then you left it at night?
Good catch, but this was a different anchorage. The one we left was wide open.
Great vid.
Thx
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Thanks great points your mention 👏🏻
“It’s gentille aloutte”
Aloutte is a type of bird. And gentille means nice 👍🏻
You two are great
Really enjoyed your video!
fear is for the things I cannot control or manage. pirates and submerged objects. everything else is preparation, planning, experience.
Hey Nick, just listened to this weeks podcast. The origin of the word kaputt is German. It means broken 😉
What keyboard are you using to generate your music?
A Linnstrument
@@TheOKellys I've never heard of that make
Lightning- seems that is an argument for nylon rather than brass through-hulls.
Really thinking about nylon thru hulls.
Yachts don't have brass though hulls, brass is made with zinc....... Phil
@@philandlyndachristieson8808 Guessing I meant Bronze.
I also replaced all Windora's bronze though holes. Phil
What kind of 360 cam do you use?
GoPro Max
Have you considered getting forward looking sonar?
No
Faraday cases are great for keeping backup electronics safe from lighting.
Every home has one...a microwave.
I always have to make a plate of food before watching your clips. Since I always get hungry when I see what you made this time;) Keep up the good work.;)
nom nom nom! Enjoy!
Another eye-opening video, Nick and Megan! ❤ Situational awareness is a must for all aspects you two covered.
Hey Megan...prison ships?...REALLY!?....don't give 'em any IDEAS...PLEASE! 😘
Nice music Nick. 😉
Great video!
another fine episode
thank you!
Great escape, thank you. I’m sitting here in a damn hospital bed and for a moment, I was back at sea.
I agree with your list, by the way but would add injury at sea.
Hospital bed!?!?!?! Hope you're out soon! Be well!
#1 fear, provisioning mistake causes you to run out of coffee. Worse than death by kranen.
Lol we almost put that in!!
@@TheOKellys should have. For most non British sailors I think this is #1. Ok maybe #2. Running out of $$$ probably number 1 for most.
My top five ocean fears are killer whales, giant octopi, Kraken, Leviathan, and fiberglass borers! Fortunately, these (almost) never appear!
My # 1 non sailing fear?.....Taco Bell.
Yes! I vote for a Megan cooking channel 😊 I found this very interesting and informative too btw
I’ve found that once is actually mostly full of water lol
What ultimately happens to these partially sunken vessels?
Good question. Standard practice has historically been to scuttle them if possible. However a lot of modern catamarans have cored hulls making them buoyant or neutrally buoyant, so scuttling doesn't work so well. If there is an insurance company involved, they will typically try to have it towed as to limit further liability. If the vessel is simply "lost" at sea, they can bob around for years riding the currents. That it sometimes takes years to find them again is a testament to exactly what we say in the video: the ocean is a very big thing.
I would not be happy sailing on a boat that relied on electric winches to work everything. Not only lightening, but also the unreliability of electrics and boats.
Can you raise anchor and sails by human power when you may need to?
Respectfully, are most if not all production Cats such as this constantly creaking under sail/motor and/or from walking around inside?
Hmmmm, interesting question. Yes, sometimes, but not always for the reason you might think. And I really hate generalizations like All Production Cats....that doesn’t reflect reality. All of the big three make some models that are stiffer than others. And some very expensive big semi custom boats make noise as well. I’ve been on an Outremer that was fairly creek-y. The noise can come from a lot of places on any boat but here are some non-rigging sources: tabbing, bulkheads, stringers, windows and hull-deck joints. Movement here is a bad bad thing, obviously....and there are a few designs out there that have these sorts of problems. I am not going to get into that. Another much more innocuous source is the interior cabinetry, countertops, shelves, doors, etc. Fiberglass is flexible....that’s a good thing....makes it resilient....and the modules and accommodations of any boat are either glassed to the structure of the boat or mounted with glues, tabs, screws, etc. All of these joints flex at different rates than the hull structure. Some production boats,or even models from the same builder have more floating modules and are mounted and attached with varying strength. I can’t make any broad statements about which has more and which has less. It depends....The last category of squeaks, groans, chirps, moans, and other annoyances comes from a source that very much IS common to the big three producers, but ALSO common to SOME fairly high end cats. And that source are the (often removable) ceiling headliners and wall panels that hide the through-deck mounts, the water and electrical services, aircon vents, etc. These panels are often made of very light plywood and covered in some sort of thick upholstery material. These can change shape with varying temperature and humidity and swell and shrink and MAKE NOISE. Higher end boats often (not always) have finished ceilings or mostly finished ceilings and don’t suffer as much from this kind of noise. Also of note, boats do flex more and make more noise as they age. And this is not NECESSARILY some sort of “build quality” issue. There are super yachts costing as much as a small city that flex so much underway that doors are stuck open or shut.
Forward scanning sonar