Overwatch 1 vs Overwatch 2 - Bastion changes - Audiovisual Comparison

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  • @Ultraclocked
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  • @anandafaiq4957
    @anandafaiq4957 ปีที่แล้ว +310

    bastion without his happy noises kinda weird, its just like a heartless killing machine

    • @guawymodificador8323
      @guawymodificador8323 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Thats is why I Love the new skin of bastion that it have a hat, it's see's very friendly:)

    • @Napsta_Blooky
      @Napsta_Blooky ปีที่แล้ว +11

      * well bastion was built to be a heartless machine, so it makes sense.

    • @guawymodificador8323
      @guawymodificador8323 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yep, but after the warr he is friendly and love the nature:)

    • @Anvil1137
      @Anvil1137 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@guawymodificador8323 *after.
      He's the LAST Bastion because all of the others were destroyed or shut down after the war.

    • @guawymodificador8323
      @guawymodificador8323 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Anvil1137sorry I Don't know englis very well...

  • @Zack_Axel
    @Zack_Axel ปีที่แล้ว +65

    OW1 Bastion made a lot more sense, Bastion was an old war robot that was brutal at killing. The self repair and simple sentry mode with no movement fit the character of a slow, but incredibly powerful war machine. The new ultimate does actually make more sense then the tank mode in terms of how he transforms but in gameplay the artilley strike needs a buff or some other change

    • @Probablyademon
      @Probablyademon ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed, I find myself only getting kills with it if I hit a 200 health character twice consecutively (so long as they're on full health), and the limited time you have to actually get these down makes it difficult to lead targets. What I would do is the following:
      Make it a flat 600 damage across the whole AOE. Overpowered? Maybe, but consider D.Vas ultimate and the fact that this is, as stated, an ultimate, within which you are a completely vulnerable target.
      Make it so that it effectively has the properties of a beam weapon, because I suppose I get defence matrix destroying it, but deflect? It's better to just not have it be destructible in the first place.

    • @phatphungus6453
      @phatphungus6453 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Probablyademon not 600 dmg since he has 3 but instead make it even less time to react or have more damage with the inner circle

  • @Ze_N00B
    @Ze_N00B ปีที่แล้ว +253

    I cannot understand how they somehow made his guns LESS detailed and good looking.

    • @setanta3741
      @setanta3741 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      He looks like he's made out of megablocks

    • @airrider-jk9ik
      @airrider-jk9ik ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Are we looking at the same video?
      It looks so much better now

    • @rathalos143
      @rathalos143 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@airrider-jk9ik No, I think the same. New gun looks like a plastic toy gun, old gun looked like an actual gun. In fact most of the new textures looks less detailed.

    • @brandon7587
      @brandon7587 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      the entire game looks worse overall. They basically just added more lighshafts but the textures are more plain.

    • @James-xw8li
      @James-xw8li ปีที่แล้ว +16

      his gun looks a little wierd in 1st person, but overall i like the new skin more. the whole point of bastions new skin is to make him look like Torbjorn had added some upgrades to his armour.

  • @sivel7493
    @sivel7493 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    is it me or did they sorta...make Overwatch 2's artstyle leans towards more...high-scifi and less grounded?

    • @c.alexander4199
      @c.alexander4199 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah absolutely. It’s more tech-y

    • @sivel7493
      @sivel7493 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@c.alexander4199 wouldn't say more "tech-y", more like...colorful and cartoony, I mean OW is pretty cartoony but now you just see all these scifi-y edges and LEDs and spikey bits everywhere, like what they did with OW2 Lucio xD. Bastion gun from OW1 looks more like sth from...let's say Cyberpunk 2077, but in OW2, it's more like...idk, Star Trek.

    • @Salmon_Toastie
      @Salmon_Toastie ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@sivel7493 Gotta remember that ow1 Bastion was a war machine where as ow2 is an upgraded modernised bastion made by Torb, that’s why he looks less grounded it’s like comparing base Orisa to her or15-or14 skins. He is a unique being now not a generic mass produced E54

    • @gagejohnathan9641
      @gagejohnathan9641 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Salmon_Toastie he already was unique considering he was the last E45 in the lore.

    • @Salmon_Toastie
      @Salmon_Toastie ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@gagejohnathan9641 Wdym he literally wasn’t, he’s the last awakened e54, your comment doesn’t really add to mine lmao. No offence.

  • @jyacthepianoman
    @jyacthepianoman ปีที่แล้ว +28

    i like the rickety-ness of ow1 better. it just feels more ancient.

  • @Katster
    @Katster ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The only good part about the new bastion is his select animation
    I want old bastion back :(

  • @BlueFHS
    @BlueFHS ปีที่แล้ว +135

    I know the old Bastion wasn’t particularly great for the game, and he’s much better now, but a part of me still misses the old Bastion kit. Being able to self heal, or hunkering down in an unexpected position near a choke and catching the enemy off guard, or getting a bunch of kills with the tank form…

    • @friendlyfire3412
      @friendlyfire3412 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      artilery? EASLY dodgeable artilery? No dude, He's actually pretty bad ultimate. Grenade is pointless... Man where does grenade come from? Magic?

    • @BlueFHS
      @BlueFHS ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@friendlyfire3412 I meant the way he plays is better for the state of the game as a whole. It makes him more engaging to play and play against than just dealing with a stationary turret. I do agree his grenade and ult could use some buffs though. The grenade is fun though, you can use it as a little “rocket jump”. I imagine when Torbjorn upgraded him he added a little grenade compartment to his arm. Doesn’t have to make a lot of sense anyway

    • @omegachaf9726
      @omegachaf9726 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Idea for a rework get his old ult as a ability half and the grenade will be a secondary fire ability that has 3 shots before reloading obviously damage would be reduced

    • @wingedbluj1674
      @wingedbluj1674 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@friendlyfire3412 You ask where the grenade comes from but not questioning why everyone has infinite bullets.

    • @sharynkerr8378
      @sharynkerr8378 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Imo, he should've been switched to tank instead of Doom. It would just got more since he was kinda the closet thing to a tank except Mei

  • @Acdxls
    @Acdxls ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Oh my poor boy what have they done to you…

  • @sgd7726
    @sgd7726 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Everything about his kit is better for the game apart from his ult. tank used to be so much better, now it’s just a crappy version of dooms ult.

    • @BlueFHS
      @BlueFHS ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I like the mortar but idk why it was necessary to get rid of the tank form.

  • @anactualpotato4197
    @anactualpotato4197 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    man i miss that old turret reload

  • @Alister_Warn
    @Alister_Warn ปีที่แล้ว +16

    In my opinion I love the new bastion rework the fact he can become a turret tank and become a mortar, but I still think they should of kept the self heal because the grenade isn't practical and the fact 99% of the time it's physics break making it stuck on walls and not players

    • @PhysicallyAwake
      @PhysicallyAwake ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the grenade just makes sense because self heal for a dps is kinda weird, but the grenade is so bad. The should make it do…like actual damage, and let it be more amiable so you’re not throwing it at a wall

    • @sombizoldado8996
      @sombizoldado8996 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PhysicallyAwake Soldier 76: yeah
      Reaper and his passive: F*ck
      Roadhog: *pyro noises *
      I think that te granade is useless bcz bastion in assault mode its too OP I would prefere a self 50 HP healing every 10 seconds and not the granade that loves the walls

    • @divinelycursed768
      @divinelycursed768 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@sombizoldado8996 His grenade is pretty fun IMO. If they were to add his old moveset back I'd like to keep the grenade. I miss bastion's heal and old ult.

    • @nigelwindsor1994
      @nigelwindsor1994 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@PhysicallyAwake Roadhog with his vape, Mei with her ice, Reaper, Solider with his biotic healing, Tracer with her reverse that can revert to full health and then you get overhealth green health idk
      Green health:
      Junker queen Doom fist Orisa Winston Sigma Torbjorn and im possibly missing out on more.

    • @inconsideratebox3000
      @inconsideratebox3000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What’s odd is that Bastion still has an extra ability slot, so he could totally have both the grenade AND self-heal.
      They likely took the self-heal out to encourage relying on support, but that would make no sense as Soldier still has a heal. I would like it back personally, but Bastion is in a very good state rn so he likely won’t get it back.

  • @blackph8252
    @blackph8252 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ow High firing recon weapon
    OW2 pinpoint slow firing recon weapon but deals high damage

  • @ajm2487
    @ajm2487 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like his old recon mode better the old primary made it feel at least more usable in gunfights and it wasn’t a complete throw if you didn’t want to use the turret mode

  • @friendlyfire3412
    @friendlyfire3412 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I prefer... Tank really.

  • @Cr7ptid
    @Cr7ptid 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just came here to remind myself how badly they ruined my favorite character

  • @ThorinOakenshield343
    @ThorinOakenshield343 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bastion was my fav hero in overwatch 1 (5k+ hours on bastion), and my most hated character in overwatch 2. What have they done to my bastion...

  • @Berb4336
    @Berb4336 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t care if they nerf him more I want self heal back even if it’s just to 150 health

  • @Random_Fella555
    @Random_Fella555 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i like old bastion

  • @officialkirbyfan6899
    @officialkirbyfan6899 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gosh they ruined him

  • @commandermaverick1487
    @commandermaverick1487 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bastion didn’t have a ball cap

  • @Sushi-goodman
    @Sushi-goodman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please blizzard come back to original bastion

  • @_fafneer_top_758
    @_fafneer_top_758 ปีที่แล้ว

    1-th game is better

  • @acemarvel1564
    @acemarvel1564 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I wonder if the upgrade were torbjorns idea

    • @xlbthedemigod5662
      @xlbthedemigod5662 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It happens in the story

    • @acemarvel1564
      @acemarvel1564 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@xlbthedemigod5662 cool

    • @James-xw8li
      @James-xw8li ปีที่แล้ว

      no i think all bastion units can do all these things

    • @jitbitless
      @jitbitless ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@James-xw8li well, in cinematics and comics, as far as I remember, there were no bastions in howitzer mode. Or bastions with grenades. So most likely Torbjorn did it. Although let's be honest, what engineer in their right mind would remove a self-repair from a terminator itself, a stationary turret in exchange for a time-limited mobile turret and artillery instead of a mobile tank?

    • @cookingwitharek9099
      @cookingwitharek9099 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jitbitless he is out of line but he's right

  • @hereticslayer2757
    @hereticslayer2757 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I honestly prefer bastions old kit over his new kit, and being able to be more independent with the self heal and having to be a vital tank shredder but also with me being a stationary target I'm a lot more vulnerable to flankers and snipers. (I also like Orisa's old kit as well.)

  • @bestunknown6647
    @bestunknown6647 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Damn they nerfed him hard

    • @vladgabrielmatei9128
      @vladgabrielmatei9128 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah removing his self heal ruined him
      GIVE IT BACK YOU MONSTERS

    • @wingedbluj1674
      @wingedbluj1674 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vladgabrielmatei9128 me: _laughs in the mobility granted by the tactical grenade_

    • @Hen3349
      @Hen3349 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah without his heal hes not really able to do much unless he gets pocket healed or sits in cover granted he still do the work sometimes

    • @vladgabrielmatei9128
      @vladgabrielmatei9128 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wingedbluj1674 *reminds you that little Baptiste hop costs you 300 health and won't help you in any way other than maybe taking some health from the enemy before being turned to slag*

  • @gagejohnathan9641
    @gagejohnathan9641 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Look at how they've massacred my boy....

  • @DENOhritko
    @DENOhritko ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He looks like a plastic toy now

    • @PhysicallyAwake
      @PhysicallyAwake ปีที่แล้ว

      Well it makes more sense. Though honestly I don’t like how his guns look like literal water guns

  • @joshliu6729
    @joshliu6729 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Old bastion was better in every way possible it’s sound, it’s grounded Sifi design, it’s “bastion idea”and balance. Now bastion rework make him less of a “bastion” and less of anything. it doesn’t have solid damage output anymore. Hell even 76 have more dps now days. is ult requires even less skills than before. And don’t even talk about the grenade and it’s grenade jump tech is so trash. Especially when you can’t even “set up”. The parkour is useless you don’t even have places to set up ( why need to find high ground when you can move around instead setting up for a good place). Plus your big hit box without its passive. Is just garbage it made him more reliant on healers and less reliant on dps. seriously just play solider is just batter than bastion in any way possible.- by a guy who’s a bastion main that have played over 1000 hours

    • @fasces_stronksticks2939
      @fasces_stronksticks2939 ปีที่แล้ว

      yea they butchered our boy bad

    • @PhysicallyAwake
      @PhysicallyAwake ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don’t think he’s completely ruined, and his sound mechanics and aspects of his new costume are so much better. They just need to rework his grenade, and change his ult.

    • @Probablyademon
      @Probablyademon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a bastion main myself, I don't think you are understanding the point of a damage hero. The clue is in the name: damage. They aren't supposed to be able of wandering off on their own and coming back unscathed, no hero is apart from tanks. Bastion is designed to roll with the team, getting support while still having a damage output that kills most heroes in seconds. Maybe soldier 76 does have better dps, but do you know what else he has? Less health and horrible recoil. The grenade I have found works to great effect so long as you are accurate, and if you are talking about the fact that it doesn't bounce all the time, that's because it only bounces off of walls, and i find it works most of the time.
      Furthermore, surely having an ultimate requiring less skill is a good thing, making it more accessible to people who just picked up the character? Now, because your English is, frankly, horrible, I struggled to understand this bit, but presumably by 'set up' you mean that you can't stay in one place as well as before and just mow people down. That's a very astute observation, because if you wanted to be a high damage person who camp's in one spot, you should've picked widowmaker. The fact that people could just camp in one spot and destroy anyone who came through the door is likely the very reason they changed it in the first place!
      Unless you are a sniper, you aren't supposed to be in one spot, the whole point of being a team is that you go together. So long as you play smart and have good support, your big hit box shouldn't be an issue.
      This is my opinion on it, and it feels like you just want to go back to the days when bastion could singlehandedly win any match, a thing that is considered by the vast majority of the world, incredibly boring.

    • @divinelycursed768
      @divinelycursed768 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Probablyademon I still want his old ult back. You can call me unskilled because I am but his ult before was fun to use. His ult now feels boring. In addition to that, they also removed his old ult sound.

    • @emt35
      @emt35 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Probablyademon I totally understand you guy, I've played bastion myself for almost a thousand hours and it's triggering that if the healer goes away for a second damn you're dead, sombra... how am I going to stay alive when I can't heal myself

  • @TheRedBaron298
    @TheRedBaron298 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I miss just staying on one position with bastion in config mode and miss his self healing

  • @BeepOW
    @BeepOW 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man I miss self-repair so much :(

  • @elitejayson9292
    @elitejayson9292 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So what your telling me is bastion has a hat now?

    • @Ultraclocked
      @Ultraclocked  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes sir

    • @ravelisland
      @ravelisland ปีที่แล้ว

      they still retain the original skin and that skin from original overwatch is called "overwatch 1" in the skin selection menu. the skin used in the video is "overwatch 2", however despite how they look the icon will still always display the new skin. same goes for every other heroes.

  • @kykylez
    @kykylez ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Seems like they buffed everything about ‘em, the sound and mechanics specifically 😊

    • @Anvil1137
      @Anvil1137 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's why it's called a rework.
      Remove the stuff that makes him horrible to fight against while leaving the fun. 😊

    • @ajm2487
      @ajm2487 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I liked his old primary fire more in recon I mean

  • @Camenye
    @Camenye 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fun fact: self repair wasn’t completely removed as bastion used it to say hello in turret form

  • @jevy2099
    @jevy2099 ปีที่แล้ว

    Easiest way to tell that someone doesn't understand game design is their opinion on this rework

  • @haydxz8369
    @haydxz8369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    glad to see ultraclockeds edits on OW

    • @Ultraclocked
      @Ultraclocked  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad to hear that, Haydxz! ^^